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Why not a general? New data about Skripals 'poisoners' thrown into the media

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According to online publications The Bellingcat and The Insider, during a joint investigation into the case of the poisoning of the Skripale family in Salisbury, they had new information. According to representatives of these publications, the name of one of the suspects, "Ruslan Boshirov," is supposedly a pseudonym, and his real name is Anatoly Chepig, and he is colonel The Main Intelligence Agency of the Russian Federation (GRU) and has the title of Hero of Russia for the successful fulfillment of the peacekeeping mission.


Why not a general? New data about Skripals 'poisoners' thrown into the media


The publications found out that Anatoly Chepiga is a graduate of the Far Eastern Military Command School, which trained officers of the GRU special forces. It is this fact from the biography of Colonel Chepigi that became “decisive” in the investigation. The journalists looked at the photos of all the graduates of this school during the 2001-2003 years, and at one of them they allegedly saw a man who looked like the suspect Boscharov. After that, they somehow got access to the databases and found in one of them the address of the colonel of the GRU in Khabarovsk, which coincided with the address where the military commandos of the GRU special forces are located. After that, The Insider entered the Russian Passport system for 2014 for a year and, after making a screenshot of an extract with a photo of Chepiga, published it on his website. The statement itself that "logged in" draws special attention.

Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, commented on the publication of The Bellingcat and The Insider. She said that the investigations carried out by the publications are aimed solely at distracting the attention of the world community from the real events that took place in Salisbury.

Attention is drawn to the fact that the publication of the Boshirov-Chepiga investigation appeared after British Prime Minister Theresa May once again accused Russia of speaking in the UN Security Council on the use of weapons mass destruction.

To understand the situation: The Bellingcat and The Insider are those structures that “painted” the Buk moving in the Donbas, and which were pierced with a missile for this air defense system, posing as the Kursk brigade. In this regard, one question: why “Boshirov-Chepiga” was “only” in the rank of colonel? “The Poisoner” had to be sent at least in the rank of Major General, twice Hero of the Russian Federation, the author of the monograph “How to apply BOV, so that the poisoned person does not die.”
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 27 September 2018 07: 36
    +4
    Why, why?
    Well, not enough generals.
    Therefore, Vasechkin was appointed colonel.
    Maybe Petrov is a general.

    But really, what do we know about the past of these two characters?
    They could have quit the special services either from the air defense or from motorized riflemen in the 90s.
    The school was preparing a lot of people, many were specialists.
    Other bricks crumbled their heads.
    Or maybe all this is a slap with the school, just ordinary soldiers / sergeants of the reserve.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 27 September 2018 07: 41
      +50
      Hero of Russia, Colonel of the GRU, who fought in Chechnya, went to hound some old traitor chatterbox. At the same time, he, like some layman, hangs around the city, looking at the windows. Moreover, he also came to the journalists to be identified and handed over to the British. And at the same time, an exotic method of murder was chosen - a chemical warfare agent. A knife, a silenced pistol, a baseball bat in a dark alley is boring. It was necessary to poison with a terrible poison developed in the USSR, to arrive on a direct flight from Moscow, leave fingers to the British for a visa, lights up in front of the cameras. Considering the above, it was possible not to bother and publicly shoot Skripal with a Kalashnikov with a shout "I serve Russia."
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 27 September 2018 07: 55
        +8
        According to the online publications The Bellingcat and The Inside

        Already funny)))
        Why not a general?

        Yes, all social networks are laughing. And not only ours wink
        1. Homer_J_Simpson
          Homer_J_Simpson 27 September 2018 10: 53
          +2
          But in the echo of Moscow everything is so serious in the comments that it’s even scary
      2. mad
        mad 27 September 2018 08: 37
        +7
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Hero of Russia, Colonel of the GRU, who fought in Chechnya, went to poison some old traitor chatterbox ...

        Aristarchus, bravo! You made me morning laughing laughing
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 27 September 2018 13: 36
          +1
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          Hero of Russia, GRU colonel who fought in Chechnya, went to poison some old traitor chatterbox.

          Well, this is a code of honor like this - an officer with a rank no lower than that is allowed to poison officers' colleagues :)
      3. Faceless
        Faceless 27 September 2018 09: 09
        +15
        Hero of Russia, Colonel of the GRU, who fought in Chechnya, went to poison some old traitor chatterbox ...


        I agree with everything, but the main question is: why did he poison the Russian Federation at all? Everything that he could, this traitor has already told. We deliberately exchanged it, essentially releasing it in England in 1999 (if memory serves). We wouldn’t want to let it out - with it, a stroke would have happened on the way or a heart attack had taken back in those days.
        Neither strategically nor tactically did we need such a scenario, especially in the light of other events on the political and sports horizons.

        Coming up with new bullshit, England is trying to divert attention from the main thing: it is important not who Bashirov and Petrov are, where they lived / worked / studied. The important thing is that the Russian Federation did not poison the Skripals. No way.

        And arguing about whether Bashirov could or could not trap the traitor, the question of whether this is the work of Russia’s hands does not just recede into the background - it’s as if resolved, and the question is only who from Russian and as this is exactly what he did.

        This is one of the classic methods of propaganda, known from time immemorial. Even looking at the comments on the article, you understand that it works.

        While the main, fundamental question was. It remains and will remain unanswered: what does the Russian Federation have to do with it?

        Once again: it is not Petrov and Bashirov who are important as individuals.
        The important thing is that Russia has nothing to do with it at all - there is not a single evidence of either direct or indirect evidence (speculation is not an argument). And from this main thing, the public is trying in every possible way to divert to secondary, far-fetched problems.
        1. marline
          marline 27 September 2018 09: 27
          +3
          Quote: Faceless
          It is important that Russia has nothing to do with it at all - there is not a single evidence of either direct or indirect evidence.

          How is it not? And what about high-likes? At a time when special services are collecting information on Twitter and Facebook, "high-likes" turns into very much proof.
          The main thing is that the trolls will spread this "high-like-like" all over the network, and then the crowd effect is already turned on - and people believe.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 27 September 2018 12: 12
            +2
            As one of the key figures of the misanthropic regime (fondly cherished by the Anglo-Saxons) used to say, "The more miraculous the lie, the faster they will believe in it."
            1. Faceless
              Faceless 27 September 2018 12: 51
              +3
              You know, that person whom you remembered, for all the enormity of his moral side, was a master of propaganda. I will say more, if you look at the primary sources, you get the feeling that the materials from them went in a wide circulation to Western textbooks.
              Unfortunately, these techniques work in the information war against the Russian Federation, but we do not use even 10 parts as at least counterattacks. Moreover, for the most part, conscience does not allow, not the lack of political will.

              Read the Washington Post. They called our President a tyrant, a murderer, a poisoner, an enemy of mankind ... Does the rhetoric remind anyone? Even the notorious liberal mass media in our country do not allow themselves this. Not because there will be a punishment - the Russian reader does not accept such a degree of presentation even of "opposition" information (and if in Russian - enemy propaganda).

              In conclusion, I cannot but note the theses of two commentators on Skripal’s connection with the Spanish secret services, as the reason for his poisoning.
              I would like to thank them - I laughed for a long time. This traitor has been "in exile" for 20 years. He was already recruited when he worked. What's new he can tell? Marasmic fantasies and memories of the past? All that he could - he handed over long ago without a trace. I repeat once again: the Russian Federation released it voluntarily. Which automatically means his complete uselessness and the absence of any danger from his country to our interests. He is waste material. Garbage that sold its homeland and survived to the drop by the enemies of the homeland.

              And now it came in handy only as cannon fodder for another provocation. Forgive me, "but only a blind man can not see" that the British poisoned him with poison from PortnDown, and this poison both before the "Novichok" group of BOV and, in principle, before the BOV - as before the Moon. Otherwise, on the same day, half of Salisbury would have been killed, and the rest would have been evacuated. without a remainder.

              Immediately even the cat survived. Anglo-Saxons finished off ... But I sincerely feel sorry for the cat. I love cats.
        2. dgonni
          dgonni 27 September 2018 09: 30
          -7
          Until the moment Skripal began to cooperate with the Spanish law enforcement, he really was not interesting to anyone. Here you are right! But since the start of cooperation, he has become dangerous specifically. For a lot of people in the higher echelons of Moscow power are involved in the lads that left for Spain over.
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 September 2018 10: 06
          -7
          "Why was he even to poison the Russian Federation? All that he could, this traitor has already told." ////
          ----
          He began to advise the special services of Spain. And this is a death sentence.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 27 September 2018 10: 19
            +6
            special services of Spain
            What it is ??? laughing
          2. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 27 September 2018 13: 49
            +1
            So he was stale, having served time, the departure theoretically assumed cooperation, it was unlikely that they would take an oath from him, moreover, the method was too exotic and stupid - to smear the door handle of the house.
          3. 020500
            020500 28 September 2018 00: 07
            0
            He did not start, but long ago he merged the Spaniards with information on gangster affairs, in which he himself was smeared. But only to whom is it important to the Spaniards besides the Spaniards (they had to squeeze out the money and squander it)? And those gangsters are also sitting long ago, who are in Spain, and their chief in Russia is going to success sew him life. By the way, he could send hello to the hiding place, banged his competitor, who was a witness in his case
        4. Avior
          Avior 27 September 2018 11: 27
          -5
          You are mistaken. Skripal advised European intelligence agencies on Russian working methods.
          So there is a motive for poisoning
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 27 September 2018 12: 17
            +3
            You are funny. Sorry about that. ANYTHING PLEASURE will be a good reason. If required. The working methods of the Russian special services are the same as the working methods of ANY special service. Yes Yes!!! Is this a discovery for you ?! Congratulations. You have a reason to carry out a similar action against, for example, a retired MI-6 employee who has been recruited by Russia. Take action.
          2. Shkiper
            Shkiper 27 September 2018 16: 28
            -2
            Did Mr. Nalyvaichenko work differently? Different from the FSB special services?
          3. MoJloT
            MoJloT 27 September 2018 18: 06
            0
            So there is a motive for poisoning
            Why for poisoning and not a feather under a rib during a robbery?
      4. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 27 September 2018 09: 32
        -2
        [quote went to poison some old traitor chatterbox.] [/ quote]
        Are you sure everything is so simple? Possibly an "old traitor chatterbox".
      5. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 27 September 2018 10: 31
        +4
        Conan Doyle the poor fellow turned over probably looking at how much the British special services were chopped up, and in life he would probably have created a separate story in Holmes about this story .....
      6. Forester
        Forester 27 September 2018 10: 40
        +7
        Yep ...
        "Stirlitz walked through Berlin ... And something elusive gave out in him
        Soviet intelligence ...
        Either budennovka, famously shifted to the side, or a parachute,
        who followed him all over the city ... "
      7. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 September 2018 17: 33
        +2
        In general, fighting in Chechnya and poisoning enemies abroad are different professions. The gynecologist will not do brain surgery .... although he is also a doctor and no less honorable!
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  2. Ham
    Ham 27 September 2018 07: 37
    +8
    strange that his name is not Vladimir Vladimirovich ....
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 27 September 2018 17: 34
      0
      not a fact ..... in a month will pop up.
  3. Chertt
    Chertt 27 September 2018 07: 39
    +6
    British Prime Minister Theresa May again accuses Russia, speaking in the UN Security Council

    And she has nowhere to retreat. Behind the "dupa" wink
  4. konstantin68
    konstantin68 27 September 2018 07: 39
    +3
    That's all there is to know about these "information structures". It's not even funny already.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 September 2018 07: 41
    +10
    Kindergarten! Are the colonels of the non-existent GRU going to "elementary liquidations"? They sleep in pairs with "partners" on a double bed ... One prostitute for two ... Well, they carry a newcomer on the plane. Gee !!!!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 27 September 2018 09: 12
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Kindergarten! Are the colonels of the non-existent GRU going to "elementary liquidations"? They sleep in pairs with "partners" on a double bed ... One prostitute for two ... Well, they carry a newcomer on the plane. Gee !!!!

      Maybe a kindergarten, but under this sauce it is likely that your Aligarhs who have entrenched themselves in Britain will be plucked, and the reason to tighten the sanctions is quite sufficient by Western standards. So if, yes, the "Salisbury" fugitive was not hounded by yours, the British themselves should have done it.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 27 September 2018 09: 29
        +3
        So can Skripal travanuli to pinch the oligarchs? Then belay would rather be plucked. We can’t wait
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 27 September 2018 09: 29
        -6
        The Insider and Bellingcat searched for Boshirov among graduates of military schools, where GRU employees are trained for operations abroad and intensively teach a foreign language. One of these schools is TWO. Aware of the age of Boshirova, The Insider and Bellingcat looked through photographs of 2001-2003 graduates. On one of them, made in Chechnya, it was possible to find a man who was vaguely reminiscent of "Boshirov":
        Although it is difficult to draw any conclusions from this photo, it became an additional reason to look for “Boshirova” precisely among the graduates of the DVOKU. The website of the school itself, which published a list of its graduates who became “Heroes of Russia”, helped in the further search. One of them, Anatoly Chepiga, could be Boshirov by age and, judging by information from open sources, he served in Chechnya, like the person in the photo above. His name was found in one of the databases where the address of Chepigi in Khabarovsk in 2003-2005 coincided with the address of the military unit corresponding to the 14th GRU special forces brigade: this also increased the likelihood that the "Boshirov" and Chepiga are the same person .
        Check out "The Insider" for details ...
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 September 2018 09: 47
          -4
          there is a suspicion that the British planted information about Chepig.
          In any case, it is now clear that the diplomats were sent for a reason, believing the English, they had evidence.
          I wonder who will be "Petrov"?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 27 September 2018 17: 34
            0
            If one is Putin, then Petrov in the end is Medvedev!
        2. sogdy
          sogdy 27 September 2018 14: 35
          0
          Quote: Snail N9
          Check out "The Insider" for details ...

          Right, if there would be a link at least.
          And finally - break. In the photo - two different people with _different_ nationalities.
  6. _Kotegpushisteg_
    _Kotegpushisteg_ 27 September 2018 07: 43
    -6
    all the same pear bully the question is just who came there? for the violin or biohazard laboratory
  7. zan_parti
    zan_parti 27 September 2018 07: 48
    +8
    Publications found that Anatoly Chepiga is a graduate of the school, which trained GRU special forces officers ...
    Journalists viewed photos of all graduates of this school for 2001-2003 ...


    You can not read further ...
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 27 September 2018 09: 31
      +3
      Immediately obvious - secret vocational school
    2. Avior
      Avior 27 September 2018 09: 49
      -2
      exactly, you are right, the article is not very, there is more information on the network and it is more accurate much, in particular with the name of the school and photos from there.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 27 September 2018 14: 37
        0
        Quote: Avior
        there is more information in the network and it is more accurate much-

        Aha. And then there's the "mode execution".
  8. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 27 September 2018 08: 00
    +6
    Dumber than they did not come up with?))) What address? Service street?))) Battery lane?))) Volochaevsky town?))) The whole brigade from Ussuriysk was recently transferred to Khabarovsk. In the city there was one battalion and this friend was definitely not there))) with a guarantee))))
  9. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 September 2018 08: 02
    +2
    How did you get these "cartoons"?
    such evidence a dozen per hour are being made
  10. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 27 September 2018 08: 02
    +8
    In this regard, one question: why "Boshirov-Chepiga" ended up "only" with the rank of colonel? The "poisoner" had to be sent at least with the rank of major general, twice Hero of the Russian Federation, the author of the monograph "How to use BOV so that the poisoned person does not die."


    How? The author does not know that in the GRU, according to the rules, an equal in rank poisons?
    If the violin reached the rank of general, the general would go and become president, then he would have to go to the action himself. wassat
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 27 September 2018 08: 07
      +8
      Becoming a colonel in special forces is already a feat))) his career will swing))) at age 39, colonel of GRU special forces))). There are not even hundreds of them in the country)))))))
  11. Fedorov
    Fedorov 27 September 2018 08: 05
    +6
    HOW HAD ALREADY THIS Nonsense! Yes, they would shoot him under the guise of a robbery, and that’s all. Well think of it-pull from Russia a flask with OV ... British senility ..
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 September 2018 08: 08
    +10
    I read "ear" and wonder how many idiots we have, they believe in this nonsense in all seriousness, it is even more trenchant than the KGB men under cover of night breaking the wall and stealing urine
    1. 777-3-59-97
      777-3-59-97 27 September 2018 10: 10
      -1
      KGB officers under cover of night breaking the wall and stealing urine

      Why break the wall? There was a special hole prepared during construction.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 27 September 2018 14: 42
        +1
        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        There was a special hole

        Ah, the euro socket is called. Alas, not through, our walls are 4 times thicker than European. Winter ...
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 27 September 2018 14: 18
      +2
      so there (on the echo of the matzah) most of them are wiped out of the couch troops from the arrogant Saxons
      Information war she is, the Russian-speaking "daughters of officers" in some countries of the former USSR have not yet been translated!
  13. Baloo
    Baloo 27 September 2018 08: 14
    +14
    Do not match the nose, ears, the distance between the eyes. Lelika with a bolik, the Naglitsky special services were chosen, because too often for an incomprehensible purpose they wandered around the countries of Europe and always without defechenki.
    As before, I suppose that there was no newcomer - Jamesbond injected drugs through the clothes and here's a coma for overdose. There was no tracheostomy. After a tracheostomy, the voice for some time, sometimes hoarse and quiet for life. Such access and so low a tracheostomy is not done.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 27 September 2018 10: 22
      -5
      Compare the photo of the GDP of the "sample" of 1998 and the "current" - does everything "match" there? wink
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 27 September 2018 19: 46
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        Compare the photo of the GDP of the "sample" of 1998 and the "current" - does everything "match" there? wink

        Classmate: last seen 10 years ago, he is almost bald.
    2. atalef
      atalef 27 September 2018 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: Balu
      Do not match the nose, ears, the distance between the eyes. Lelika with a bolik, the Naglitsky special services were chosen, because too often for an incomprehensible purpose they wandered around the countries of Europe and always without defechenki.
      As before, I suppose that there was no newcomer - Jamesbond injected drugs through the clothes and here's a coma for overdose. There was no tracheostomy. After a tracheostomy, the voice for some time, sometimes hoarse and quiet for life. Such access and so low a tracheostomy is not done.

      I’m sure the real Chepiga will speak in all the media soon and refute this nonsense, I’m also sure that along with Chepyga Bashirov will come with an interview with (say Solovyov) and then they will dab into May’s liquid substance and all their intelligence services along with the Insider.
      Someone is willing to bet that this will not happen?
      If we cut the truth so to the end - about Skripal, all the media on all channels have been gobbled for months - and then how did they get water in their mouths, but what kind of thing is easier?
      I once wrote, why shouldn't Petrov and Bashirov drag all their friends, colleagues, neighbors to some show and refute all this "nonsense"?
      It seems to me that this time too we will not see anyone - especially after my grandmother identified Chepygu in Bashirov.
      I don’t understand at all - how much can you ignore the facts and just 100% - evidence?
      Read yourself sometimes?
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  14. ciujoilu
    ciujoilu 27 September 2018 08: 15
    -5
    My opinion is not poisoned by these two traitors, but they are very well used. I think they are real agents, and they were there to observe something, (maybe for a chemical laboratory), and the British intelligence agencies use this very beautifully. And the Russian special services should look for a second skripal.
    1. Compasure
      Compasure 27 September 2018 08: 24
      +9
      Igor, with an official visa, only attaches to embassies go to spy))
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 27 September 2018 08: 33
        +5
        No, well, still stupid Russian spies. They hang out with prostitutes, they poison everyone. Dangle throughout Europe with their passports)))
    2. atalef
      atalef 27 September 2018 22: 10
      0
      Quote: ciujoilu
      My opinion is not poisoned by these two traitors, but they are very well used. I think they are real agents, and they were there to observe something, (maybe for a chemical laboratory), and the British intelligence agencies use this very beautifully. And the Russian special services should look for a second skripal.

      Of course - they are civilians - the chief said, but of course they watched the laboratory - but this is not the task, for some reason being at Skripal's house - and he probably poisoned himself from this
      1. 020500
        020500 27 September 2018 23: 21
        +2
        Gooopy Malshik. Varum poison the forecaster with iad? Das East Special Forces. Nur cut with a knife. Alzo to score Fusen. Yes.

        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT 28 September 2018 09: 24
          0
          +100500 Ahahaa soldier
  15. gla172
    gla172 27 September 2018 08: 32
    +9
    ...... "" "" "" "" What bastards these Russians are, "the young lieutenant said unexpectedly for everyone," I would put them all through one and shoot in turn.
    Silence reigned in the room. Everyone looked at Stirlitz. Stirlitz spit out a piece of stew, stood up, and, having overturned three tables, strode forward to the presumptuous lieutenant.
    “A fascist pig,” he muttered, and slapped the lieutenant in the face.
    “I'm sorry, I don't quite understand ...” muttered the dumbfounded lieutenant.
    Stirlitz lost his temper and, grabbing a stool, brought it down on the head of an unlucky lieutenant. The lieutenant fell, and Stirlitz began viciously kicking him.
    - I am a Russian intelligence officer Isaev and I will not allow a dirty German dog to insult a Russian officer!
    Four SS men rushed to separate the fighting. The amused Stirlitz was dragged away from the groaning lieutenant and, in order to reassure, they offered to drink for his Motherland, for Stalin.
    “Yes,” said Stirlitz, calming a little. He drank a mug of schnapps, the red-haired SS man readily poured a second, Stirlitz drank another. The lieutenant became uninteresting to him.
    “Well, how can you,” one of the front-line soldiers whispered to the sobbing lieutenant, “at Stirlitz himself say such things about Russians, and even in such terms!” I would have killed you in his place.
    “Stirlitz is a good soul,” the second soldier sighed, “I remember three days ago they beat a Japanese spy here, everyone kicked them, but Stirlitz didn’t.”
    - The kindest man, - the first soldier confirmed, and they took the lieutenant out into the fresh air. "" "" "" "" ......... laughing ..... you can draw an analogy .....
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 27 September 2018 08: 53
      +4
      Quote: gla172
      Stirlitz is a good soul, - the second soldier sighed, - I remember three days ago they beat a Japanese spy here, so everyone kicked, but Stirlitz didn’t.

      good lol Well, for shtirlits all over the world drinks
  16. Silinvv
    Silinvv 27 September 2018 08: 32
    +4
    Finally, clear evidence! Finally proven massive! Mass use of hard drugs by the English and Afghan herbs!
  17. dr.star75
    dr.star75 27 September 2018 08: 34
    +1
    Only recently, on TV, they showed how in the Moscow metro you can identify everyone by photo, even if a person tried to change his appearance. So skip these pictures through the program. Then immediately it becomes clear where whose heaps are.
  18. Mwg
    Mwg 27 September 2018 08: 47
    +2
    "As reported by The Bellingcat and The Insider, during the joint investigation into the Skripal family poisoning in Salisbury, they have gained new information." - Stupid storytellers. This "investigation" really stinks of MI 5 operation
  19. Zioner
    Zioner 27 September 2018 08: 58
    +4
    I don’t believe in the fact that the Kremlin persecuted Skripali.

    The fact that these guys are "office" I think is very likely.

    I think the British played them in the dark. They were there when it all happened. I admit that Skripal Sr. is "in the subject" and "plays the victim." They want to force Russia to make excuses. Because, as there is no evidence of poisoning, there is no evidence to the contrary.

    I think the British special services "outplayed" the Russian ones, and the politicians are playing up the situation.
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 September 2018 09: 09
      +3
      yeah. Colonel GU GSH drove there to the cathedral to gawk for an hour
      1. Compasure
        Compasure 27 September 2018 14: 55
        +1
        and emigrant girls to cuddle, otherwise the Khokhlushka is already tired wassat
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 27 September 2018 18: 20
      +2
      Quote: Citizen of Zion
      +5
      I don’t believe in the fact that the Kremlin persecuted Skripali.
      The fact that these guys are "office" I think is very likely.

      Do you believe that it is possible to cure a person of poisoning, a chemical warfare agent?
    3. atalef
      atalef 27 September 2018 22: 15
      -1
      Quote: Zionian
      I don’t believe in the fact that the Kremlin persecuted Skripali.

      The fact that these guys are "office" I think is very likely.

      I think the British played them in the dark. They were there when it all happened. I admit that Skripal Sr. is "in the subject" and "plays the victim." They want to force Russia to make excuses. Because, as there is no evidence of poisoning, there is no evidence to the contrary.

      I think the British special services "outplayed" the Russian ones, and the politicians are playing up the situation.

      Of course in the dark and the Novice they threw them into the room and Sosberi was forced to come and came up with a legend - all Anglo-Saxons.
      Do not you think that everything is much simpler?
      As Bibi once said - if something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck - it's probably still a duck - not a crow.
      Sometimes do not stand in the clumsy work of some and the excellent work of others, to seek a secret conspiracy,
      everything is probably much simpler - the GRU worked clumsily and was caught, everything, the curtain.
      1. 020500
        020500 27 September 2018 23: 27
        +1
        GRU does not work clumsily. I’m ready to believe in a provocation against the GRU from the FSB coupled with its friendly mossads and other Mi5. Vigilant at all ready for the sake of influence, money, well, just fuck up
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 28 September 2018 16: 36
        0
        Quote: atalef
        As Bibi once said - if something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck - probably it's still a duck - not a crow

        There is another saying:
        Not all that glitters is gold!
        The guys found traces of a newcomer in the room where they lived and they did not get poisoned, despite the fact that it was announced that they had poured Novicek directly into the toilet of her Majesty's gardens and immediately the police officer who came to the aid of the Sripals came to the hospital. Some of the facts are simply tailored to them, but rather rudely, like a statement by Yulia Skripal, whose citizens were practically abducted and kept to prevent diplomats.
        I don’t know what poisoners Petrov and Bashirov are, but in all respects they should be the first victims of the Novice, if it’s their business, green overalls on the camera were not fixed on them.
        And once again, on account of poisoning with a chemical warfare agent, do you believe that it can be cured?
        There are more likely to be questions than answers. Was there poisoning? Where is the poisoned Skripal himself? Why, even without having done the analysis, the hand of Moscow was announced, while the Czech President himself admitted to producing such a substance in his country.
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  21. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 27 September 2018 09: 00
    +4
    I have a question. Well, okay, according to the legend they presented, opponents of the Russian leadership go to the secret databases of the school that trains GRU officers, as if they were going to the lavatory at home. They also do not hesitate to enter the Russian Passport database. So what was it - on our part - treason or bungling? If what they wrote is a lie, then why, instead of nailing the authors to a pillory, we laugh at them again - they say, well, storytellers. I am not calling for the physical destruction of these people, but you can steal them, and then judge from us. If there is no article in the Criminal Code for libel or disclosure - so it should be introduced.
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      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 September 2018 09: 23
        +6
        drink motherwort and warm milk with honey
        1. marline
          marline 27 September 2018 09: 56
          +4
          Insidious advice. After all, blacks have lactose intolerance.
        2. sogdy
          sogdy 27 September 2018 14: 50
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          drink motherwort and warm milk with honey

          better with cucumbers.
    2. Avior
      Avior 27 September 2018 09: 30
      -2
      there are few accusations of using chemical weapons for murders, so there will also be a charge of kidnapping.
      great idea what
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 27 September 2018 10: 16
        0
        The authorities in the West, and their corrupt press, which, taking advantage of the mildness of our leadership, have become more adept at licking their owners ’snubs, have become so rooted in lies and tyranny that we do not care about their accusations, so at least let the truthful charges of kidnapping appear (by the way, according to the American experience). They impose sanctions this way and that. So let it be let it be at least for the cause. Maybe next time they’ll be careful. And so, in view of freedom of speech, no one is forbidden to express their opinion. So I got the opinion that it would be nice to put one of these gentlemen in ten years.
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 September 2018 11: 21
          -2
          Sanctions vary, ask the DPRK.
          And to add accusations of kidnapping of objectionable journalists, you cleverly came up with
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 27 September 2018 14: 58
            +1
            who was kidnapped?
    3. den3080
      den3080 27 September 2018 10: 51
      +5
      So all this is sculpted not for those who at least understand something in Russian reality, not for those who served in the Russian army or (oh, horror) graduated from a Russian (Soviet) military school.
      This “shnyaga” is being launched for Westerners and I think that the average John or Matthew from some Manchester seems quite plausible.
      Well, some of the fans of the sect "Echo of Moscow" also do not burden themselves with seditious thoughts that they are shamelessly fooled.
    4. Compasure
      Compasure 27 September 2018 14: 57
      +1
      Whom to steal? Teresa May? and nail to the pillory in the frontal place? laughing
  22. Carib
    Carib 27 September 2018 09: 09
    +5
    Absolutely sad. The British couldn’t even come up with a striped story even a little bit like the truth. So many mistakes only an uneducated student could admit ...
  23. Troll
    Troll 27 September 2018 09: 24
    +3
    Generals either retire or sit in headquarters. Therefore, only a colonel. The real Colonel.
    -
  24. Avior
    Avior 27 September 2018 09: 28
    -3
    such highly likes started that already my post was deleted smile
    But there is nothing to object to in essence.
    Calculate them, however, is clearly unexpected for them and their superiors.
    I already wrote once that the legend needed to be taken care of, even if after the British made a fuss, it would be best to judge them and give a term for something, if they were in the colony now, everything would look different.
    The British obviously know much more than they reveal.
    A screenshot of the Chepigi card is already online, although some data is closed, but there are enough open ones.
    Yes, and others appeared, as it turned out, they do not really care about questions of scout legends in the General Staff of the General Staff, since the real office address is indicated on the passports smile , as in the joke about the parachute and Budenovka Stirlitz straight. There is an investigation of the Fontanka on passports with close numbers and the same address.
    It seems that in the 21st century it will be possible to investigate without leaving the network.
    Chepiga has already hit Wikipedia
    Anatoly Vladimirovich Chepiga (born April 5, 1979, Nikolaevka, Ivanovo District, Amur Region, RSFSR, USSR) - Russian military leader, special forces colonel [ru] GRU of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, Hero of the Russian Federation (2014).
    1. Sadko88
      Sadko88 27 September 2018 09: 45
      +1
      About salisbury steak forgot to say ... Addictive by the way smile
      1. Avior
        Avior 27 September 2018 11: 11
        -1
        causes - get used to it.
        Only now Chepiga and Bashirov together on the screen from the fact that highlie likes were raised here will not appear.
    2. marline
      marline 27 September 2018 10: 11
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      Chepiga has already hit Wikipedia

      Well, if it is Wikipedia, then yes, for sure, he is "the colonel of the special forces of the GRU General Staff of the RF Armed Forces."
      1. marline
        marline 27 September 2018 10: 14
        +2
        By the way, the discussion on the article "Chepiga, Anatoly Vladimirovich" in Wikipedia is much more interesting than the article itself.
      2. Avior
        Avior 27 September 2018 11: 10
        -1
        and Wikipedia has nothing to do with it, just conveniently collected information.
        if it’s not him, then we’ll see Bashirova and Chepig together on TV in the evening.
        Will see
    3. 020500
      020500 27 September 2018 10: 55
      +8
      In this case, you have to agree with Kalinka - all this is nonsense and stuffing designed for their average man. For one simple reason, the necessary intelligence information was collected from all their military intelligence officers for all commanders of military units and senior officers. Especially on the officers of the combat units of the Special Forces, who appeared in the war. Accordingly, no one will ever use them as illegal immigrants.

      The second elementary reason - well, you need to understand the difference between illegal transcendental and special intelligence.



      1. Avior
        Avior 27 September 2018 11: 14
        -3
        in this case, if we do not see them together on the screen in the evening, then all this is a child’s likes, including your post-complete nonsense.
        There is no need to convince their own, most of the readers of VO do not care that Skripal was poisoned, they will even approve, and such "arguments" will not convince everyone else
        1. 020500
          020500 27 September 2018 11: 47
          +4
          What for? Now, because of each attack on the fan of the officers, drag them to the TV?
          And so there, all the same, nothing will convince anyone. Tomorrow they will investigate and prove that Petrov’s real name is P.A. Sudoplatov. And they will also attract the prosecutor's office of the Netherlands. And show them the tombstone, do not show, it will immediately become clear to everyone that this is true. Russian they are.

          Below are photographs obtained from reliable sources, unequivocally and irrefutably proving the involvement of Russians in the poisoning of violins and chemical attacks in Syria.



          See? They are in gas masks



          All this suggests the need for new sanctions. Yes.

      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 September 2018 17: 36
        0
        ..And drugs and a prostitute where?
        1. 020500
          020500 28 September 2018 00: 00
          0
          In England. Everything is alright with this case.
    4. Batonkt
      Batonkt 27 September 2018 15: 43
      +3

      Something too small your guys swim - I'll try to throw them some evidence. An urgent need to investigate.
    5. 020500
      020500 27 September 2018 23: 54
      +1
      Quote: Avior
      There is an investigation of the Fontanka on passports with close numbers and the same address.


      Absolutely ridiculous investigation, because any stupid person in Moscow knows that the GU is located at a different address - on Grizodubova street
  25. Horon
    Horon 27 September 2018 10: 17
    +6
    In the photo there are two different people. belay
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 September 2018 11: 08
      -4
      if these are different people, in the evening they will give interviews on TV together
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 27 September 2018 12: 46
        +3
        Quote: Avior
        if these are different people, in the evening they will give interviews on TV together

        Personally for Sergey? belay
      2. Horon
        Horon 27 September 2018 14: 22
        +4
        In the photo there may be another person with other names and what to drag him to the studio too? Only on the basis of the stool of an online publication already convicted of a lie? It may turn out to be a fictional character, what will we also look for in a parallel universe? These are different people in the photo and any person comparing the proportions of the faces in the photo will confirm this.
  26. betta
    betta 27 September 2018 10: 18
    -2
    My version. Two scouts went to meet with agent Skripal (recruited in prison), but someone turned in ours. The British decided to kill the agent (why should they?) Blame the blame on Russia. As a result, there is a corpse and two! lighted scout from Russia - a good scandal.
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 September 2018 11: 07
      -1
      he’s actually alive.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 27 September 2018 15: 02
        0
        Quote: Avior
        he’s actually alive.

        We will not specify who. But is this your _personal_ opinion?
  27. Avior
    Avior 27 September 2018 11: 19
    -3
    Comments are funny to read. Who are they written for?
    Most VO readers do not care that Skripal has been poisoned, they will even approve, and all the rest will have one argument convincing - if in the near future "Boshirov" and Chepiga appear on the screen together and give an interview.
    "Boshirov" doesn't need to hide now, is Chepiga to blame?
    And if we don’t see them together, then no highlie likes on either VO or the media space will convince anyone, but only reinforce the idea that it was the Russian special forces who poisoned Skripal with chemical weapons.
    1. Comrade Beria
      Comrade Beria 27 September 2018 12: 55
      +5
      And why should Russia throw beads in front of pigs?

      And even if they appear together, then such as you will say that it was a make-up artist.

      It’s like playing pigeon with chess. laughing
    2. Horon
      Horon 27 September 2018 14: 36
      +1
      It's funny to read such comments! Most likely you will not be convinced by anything. People like you don’t even bother to take a ruler and check the proportions of face elements in order to see that there are different people in the photo and not only by age. I would generally stop responding to such stuffing and wait for an open trial, where I would trample all this pseudo-investigation into the mud and demand serious compensation for the damage! Before that, jump to your health! While a person is jumping, he does not think!
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 27 September 2018 15: 06
        0
        Quote: Horon
        and would wait for an open trial

        So it will not be. As with polonium.
        1. Horon
          Horon 27 September 2018 21: 37
          0
          Then there is no need to fence a garden and make excuses! Any accusations are valid only within the walls of the court, outside the walls - they are only suspicions. In court, the presence of three parties is required: the prosecution, the defense and the judge. In the whole situation with the accusations, now only the prosecution is present, the defense is not even given the opportunity to study the case and any court, in such a situation, is not legitimate, since it can no longer be impartial. And they know this very well, therefore they are constantly "blowing the pipe", conducting propaganda rather than investigation, and the only way to fight propaganda is counter-propaganda. And here it is necessary not only to make excuses, but also to attack. For example, declare the illegal detention of Skripal's daughter by the British special services, demand her return, and the dependence of her decisions under pressure from the British special services. To shift the emphasis from probable poisoning to real retention as a citizen of Russia. This is so, at a glance. I think that in these matters we must have specialists and they just need to set the task correctly. what
    3. 020500
      020500 27 September 2018 23: 42
      0
      It goes without saying. But (!), Maybe I'm paranoid, but in all this seething, I personally see a real set-up and provocation against the military by the vigilant. Judging by all this, they are the ones who ship oranges in barrels to "partners". They want to pick everything up for themselves and make the military leadership look like idiots
  28. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 27 September 2018 12: 05
    -1
    The "brightest mind" of British storytellers amazes ... and all the more astonishes the "brightest reaction" of the inhabitants to this crazy nonsense.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 27 September 2018 15: 05
      0
      Quote: Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs (Alex)

      Learn Russian. Then, perhaps, your statements will make sense.
  29. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 27 September 2018 13: 40
    +1
    In all this stupid story, none of the Western partners asks the question "what about what?" Even Shariy, who saw the guys in the military, does not ask, although he is the main question.
  30. Compasure
    Compasure 27 September 2018 14: 59
    0
    In fact, everything is very sad, the world is getting dull and the victims of the USE are not only in our country ..... recourse
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 27 September 2018 15: 09
      -1
      Quote: Compasure
      and victims of the exam, not only in our country ..... recourse

      Excuse me, given that the Unified State Exam was introduced on the model of foreign "final testing", what country are you writing about?
      Or formulate more precisely. Not as a victim of the exam.
      1. Compasure
        Compasure 27 September 2018 20: 14
        +1
        here is another victim ....
  31. Cavalryman
    Cavalryman 27 September 2018 19: 03
    0
    how British Prime Minister Theresa May again accused Russia of speaking in the UN Security Council on the use of weapons of mass destruction.

    Here is a restless woman then .. laughing

    Again, beads (black on the neck) .. Who are they hanging them ..? )))))))
    Psaki that at least was a cutie (spontaneity itself)))) love

    I feel women ruin the world .. fellow
  32. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov 27 September 2018 19: 35
    +1
    where is the minus article you can click?
  33. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 28 September 2018 00: 52
    0
    In the early 2000s, MVD officers brought to the checkpoint of one organization a list on several (exactly more than five) pages with passport data of invalid passport forms.
    These forms were spioneers from one Moscow passport office, and were safely put into operation.
    One well-known representative of a bohemian party with a non-Russian surname also appeared on this list (filled-in / completed, passport forms).
    Until now, he can be seen on TV, a person regularly visits abroad, gives interviews there.
    Exhibited here and there.
    So, you never know what there Belinkatovtsy digging data.
    With us, if you wish, you can also receive an old passport with a residence permit in an communal apartment in eastern Biryulevo in absentia for an old woman (Queen of England).

  34. Patriot of Russia
    Patriot of Russia 29 September 2018 07: 42
    0
    Once upon a time I read Rezun's book "Aquarium". Judging by it, the GRU was a super office steeper than the KGB.
    Judging by the Skripal case, how much she has degraded over the past 18 years of Putin. It is very sad to realize this fact. Previously, I respected the GRU very much, since the guys are fighting with real enemies, often in combat conditions.
  35. Patriot of Russia
    Patriot of Russia 29 September 2018 07: 52
    0
    Of course, in the Skripal case, Western intelligence agencies and our government can lie. Only now everyone understands that it is impossible to believe our power at all !!!! After she stole pensions from several million Russians, while spewing tons of lies in her defense, it will be clear to anyone that only the Kremlin bots can trust her. Unfortunately.