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Lugansk politician made a film about the war of Donbass with Ukraine in 2015

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Lugansk politician made a film about the war of Donbass with Ukraine in 2015

Politician Vladislav Krivobokov, a former member of the faction of the Communist Party of Ukraine in the Lugansk Regional Council, made a video about the future civil war in Ukraine.

In the video, made in the style of a computer game, it is a conflict that broke out in 2015 due to the reluctance of Ukraine to join the Eurasian Union, reports LUGANSK media style.

Voice-over tells how the army of the "Eastern Liberation Corps" - volunteers of Donbass and Slobozhanshchina - fights with groups of the Western Committee of Resistance to Dictatorship and knocks out the last from Poltava, Cherkassy, ​​Chernigov, and then Kiev.

At this time, the former prime minister, who was treated in Germany, returns to Ukraine and agrees with the West on the introduction of NATO troops to Ukraine.

At this time in Sevastopol, ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation have already been put on alert.

At the end, several figures are given regarding the dubious prospects of Ukraine within the European Union.

We note that Krivobokov has long been actively campaigning to popularize the ideas of the "Eurasian Union". In particular, on the Lugansk TV channels in November last year, thematic commercials were broadcast, which were taken off the air only after the appeal of Yulia Tymoshenko’s Deputy Elena Kondratyuk to the Prosecutor General’s Office and the National Council on Television and Radio Broadcasting.
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  1. with
    with 25 May 2012 11: 41
    +6
    The fraternal people are sausage!
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 11: 50
      +20
      To live in Ukraine is not so kicking.
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir 25 May 2012 12: 50
        +15
        Now he showed this video to his mother, without a preamble, as the latest news, the old woman believed and was not surprised a little, she only sighed heavily ...
        This fantasy is too realistic!
        1. domokl
          domokl 25 May 2012 13: 22
          +10
          [quote = Jaromir] This fantasy is too realistic! Honestly ... If you put the video on TV, slightly changing the dates as news, almost no one, even from serious political scientists, will be surprised ... This is a predictable development of events by 100% ... .Ukraine, paradoxically, a country which does not exist yet ... And all the troubles are that it does not exist .. There is a territorial formation, which contains completely alien territories, alien people and alien cultures, which instead of building a common pulling a blanket over themselves ... I’ve been talking for a long time and I’ll talk-while Ukraine find camping in this state it the way it decay into three sostavlyayuschih..Zapadnaya (pro-Polish, rather proevropeychkaya and impoverished), East (pro-Russian, but has at least some some industries) and the Crimea (Russian Tatar, but in fact pro-Turkish)
      2. domokl
        domokl 25 May 2012 13: 15
        +10
        I watched the video ... It’s tough .. A young man is a deputy or already a former deputy .. only with such videos you can convince the illiterate and black and white young people that their ideas are right ... Read the majority, they don’t want to learn, too ... but here’s the comics and videos with interest ... It seems that a new generation of politicians is still growing in Ukraine, who perfectly remember who Ukraine was in the USSR and understand who it should become in the EU ...
        I think Ukrainians should take a closer look at this man ... I would at least do that ...
        1. 755962
          755962 25 May 2012 15: 31
          +4
          It’s time for Ukraine to decide! It’s not even an hour .. the forecast tends to come true. The question is, with what probability
  2. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 11: 41
    +12
    God forbid, but the chances of such a development of events are increasing day by day.
    1. domokl
      domokl 25 May 2012 13: 27
      +3
      [quote = DEMENTIY] God forbid, but the chances of such a development of events are increasing day by day. [/ quote So do something .. Elections to local councils, elections to the Rada and everything where you can speak ... Use me now Ukrainians, excuse me, they remind me of a flock of sheep that they brought to a meat factory, but they don’t take them to the slaughterhouse anymore ... they feel the blood, they understand that they will kill soon, but they dutifully wait for the goat provocateur to go to this very slaughterhouse ...
      1. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 14: 54
        +4
        domokl
        From time immemorial, a patient and persistent people lived in Russia.
        Allowed to mock himself for a long time. As history shows, this bloody Pugachevschina cruelty ended exclusively.
        So, in my deep conviction, Ukraine has no other way.
    2. ZHORA
      ZHORA 25 May 2012 18: 05
      -11
      You are right hatred of Donetsk is growing day by day!
      1. zevs379
        zevs379 25 May 2012 18: 34
        0
        ZHORA,
        Quote: JORA
        You are right hatred of Donetsk is growing day by day!




        Which city are you from ?
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 25 May 2012 22: 55
          +1
          Quote: zevs379
          Which city are you from ?

          From Muhosra * nska he, District of Columbia ... USA, next to Washington .., to the State Department once a week he runs around for a salary, and still there ORANGE oranges grow wink
    3. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 25 May 2012 20: 00
      0
      To knock this seer on the head so that the brains work. Enough to divide the people into eastern and western. It's no secret that people go to all colorful events with extras for a pittance. Today he waves orange before lunch, and blue after. Enough to play off the people. Problems in the heads of politicians in the struggle for a place at the trough. For the people, they are all feces, only in different pots. Only one thing was noticed for sure, that the cowardly boor "guarantor" would immediately rush abroad. He faints from a raw egg.
      1. mox
        mox 25 May 2012 21: 29
        -3
        Krivobokov is a rare scum.
        And if such people campaign for the Eurasian Union, then I am against such a union.
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 25 May 2012 11: 50
    +19
    Ukraine will enter the vehicle much earlier, closer to the new year. Ukraine has no chance to hold out until 15, for reasons that are independent of it, they won’t. Either Ukraine will be with Russia, or the democrats will tear Ukraine both economically and politically.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 12: 04
      +1
      Alexander Romanov
      Something you decided today to write in one phrase on all articles about Ukraine — this doesn't suit you. Believe me.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 May 2012 12: 47
        +5
        Dimentiy, I love Ukraine - my brotherly people live in it!
    2. domokl
      domokl 25 May 2012 13: 28
      +3
      Please do not agree with you Alexander
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Ukraine will enter the vehicle much earlier, closer to the new year
      The potential of Ukraine allows us to hope that this does not happen this year
  4. Kars
    Kars 25 May 2012 11: 53
    -7
    Watching April Fool's Day?
    Just wondering how such articles get here? Does anyone need this?
    But yesterday's article about the aviation of Ukraine for some reason was quickly deleted.
    1. Vyalik
      Vyalik 25 May 2012 15: 48
      +2
      And what else do we have flying?
      1. VAF
        VAF 25 May 2012 22: 51
        0
        Quote: Wyalik
        And what else do we have flying?


        Decided to believe in the slogan "Leave hope all that comes in everywhere?" ???

        In vain, dear. Very vain! To which I am realistic. And what is scary, I personally know the reality in our aviation and I believe that not everything is finite. But only one problem will be restored and worried. That we only have time ....!

        And you, dear. completely stuck !!!!
    2. VAF
      VAF 25 May 2012 22: 47
      0
      Quote: Kars
      Watching April Fool's Day?


      And here I am, with a shovel !!! How about native aviation without me ????

      Who wants to try the veteran body here, come one at a time ..... angry

      Andreny. Thank you for your target designation. and that’s all on the Hornets, but on the An-30th I’m sitting. the same interesting topics !!!

      Antispam tortured in PM do not give anything to send. so here I am, through open communication channels! drinks
      1. Kars
        Kars 25 May 2012 22: 59
        0
        I watch antispam steers.

        Yes, here comes the reminder about aviation --- and even yesterday’s article about .. Ukraine’s non-purchase of fighters from Russia by 2025 by Ukraine .. evaporated before the discussion turned out. And this for some reason does not disappear.
        Though with great pleasure I would argue with a fan of the rezun’s creativity on an article about BT-7
  5. Odious
    Odious 25 May 2012 11: 59
    +10
    Kars
    Hello.
    With all due respect to you, the article was not about Ukrainian aviation, but about its absence.
    1. Kars
      Kars 25 May 2012 12: 04
      +5
      Respect me is not necessary.
      And if it were about the absence --- it would be possible to read it even now.
      I see that I didn’t like the information that Ukraine is modernizing on its own the entire range of aviation equipment it inherited from the USSR - from Su-27 to Mi-24
      1. Odious
        Odious 25 May 2012 12: 15
        +8
        Andrei
        Well, why are you like that. I always follow your comments, many are really worthy of respect (especially in the field of armored vehicles and your articles are very informative).
        But you forget that, I am a pessimist, i.e. my glass (aviation) is half empty and your optimist is half full. wink
        1. Splin
          Splin 25 May 2012 13: 15
          +5
          I’ll get into your argument, and I climbed the Internet yesterday, I got the data while I wrote, the article was deleted. Bummer.


          Well, there is no 30 lemons in Ukraine to buy a new plane. Yes, sort out what is. Everyone is engaged in the upgrade. our western neighbors have planes too. Poland climbed a multi-million dollar loan to buy used 47 F-16Gs, only because they could not agree with Russia on spare parts for MIGs. Romanians in general can afford to buy on credit 18 F-16Cs, which the Americans are selling them from warehouses (and they have not flown for ten years), because their MiG-21S is simply outdated, even patched by Israel. Slovaks and Czechs "flash" their MiGs
          The Turks, for some reason, grandfather Phantom (who stopped producing 1978-79) has undergone modernization to the level of F-4E 2020 Terminator and will be replaced by F-35B. until the 20th year. The Greeks still have 36 Phantoms, and judging by their crisis, they will not soon find an alternative. Even rich Japan has over 90 F4G! Well-fed Brugers removed their Phantom from service only in 2005. So the aviation of Ukraine is not so filthy. In technical terms. The main thing that there was a raid. And then an hour of flight devour 2 pieces of bucks.
          1. DEMENTIY
            DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 14: 30
            +3
            Spleen
            Do not be too lazy to go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0U2zW_FjZA&feature=related
            And modernization in Ukrainian is when for 60 mln. UAH For 20 years they have been taming the 40 summer barrel, they are putting sailors into it (the only ones who are worthy of respect - this is the courage to sit on such a trough) and sent to surface swimming.
            Not a plane, but the meaning is the same.
            1. Kars
              Kars 25 May 2012 15: 12
              +3
              And it happens like that
              The Su-27 fighter of the Ukrainian Air Force with the new hull number "100 blue" (former "58 blue", serial number 35717), which completed overhaul in 2012, receives a new camouflage color upon completion of repairs at the MiGremont Zaporozhye State Aviation Repair Plant. Camouflage coloring of blue shades Zaporozhye, 28.04.2012 (с) Skywarrior / spotters.net.ua
            2. Splin
              Splin 25 May 2012 15: 17
              +2
              You could believe the photos if not for two, "but". For some reason, I was confused by the Russian camouflage on the soldiers and the Tu-22M3 fleet, ... Well, the fact that they have not been in Ukraine for 6 years is not important, maybe old photos. But I saw how they were looked after. We were on a business trip in the neighboring unit and they took us to the flyers and showed them. When, they were then cut under the American greedy gaze. people were crying
              And about "Zaporozhye". We did it well, but I also think that as a combat unit we really need it. He is of little use to her. It is oceanic - it's cramped here. and there is a lot of noise. Plus to keep her 2 crews for a day, and the material and technical equipment is not rational.
              A 60 lemons. If they were used rationally. And then. bought batteries in Greece in the late 90s, delivered them without proper storage. Three years later, they remembered about them, and they died.
              Army dolbo ...
              PS And by the way, all ukrainian Tu-22M3 on the tails had a trident, and not stars.
              1. Kars
                Kars 25 May 2012 15: 28
                +2
                Quote: Splin
                Park Tu-22M ...


                what are you talking about? And Migremont in 6 km in a straight line from my house. There and Su-25 modernized.
                1. Splin
                  Splin 25 May 2012 15: 35
                  +1
                  This I answered Diminius but did not have time right away. He advised me to watch the video
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 25 May 2012 23: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: Splin
                    . He advised me to watch the video


                    Why watch there, sit down and go to Poltava, the Breyalka district, an airfield, now the Air Force Museum, the remains of 185 guards. Tbap, you can see the rest of the former power there.
                    Here is the last Tu-22M3 and the director of the museum there, Valera Vereskul, the same last commander of once one of the most combat-ready regiments of the USSR DA, by the way, P.D. Deinekin commanded, and then the 13th Guards TBAD (Poltava-Priluki-Stryi).

                    1. Kars
                      Kars 26 May 2012 00: 12
                      0
                      Is it interesting that he can still take off? There is a vet and there is a Tu-160.
                      Well, there, in the case of the Romanian threat, can they somehow be put on the wing?
                      1. Splin
                        Splin 26 May 2012 00: 22
                        +1
                        It's just a "scarecrow" There is also a Bear (Tu-95) and just a Tu-22 (Blind). In our Ukrainian army, only Tu-22M3 flew. They wanted to keep them in service, the mean Yankees did not give them. Chezh so Ukraine cut them for a long time. As many as 10 years.
                      2. VAF
                        VAF 26 May 2012 14: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Splin
                        Only the Tu-22M3 flew in our Ukrainian army.


                        In total there are Su-15, Tu-95MS, Tu-22KD, Tu-134UBL, Tu-22M3, Tu-16 K-26, Tu-160, An-26, L-29, An-2 There are a total of 10 aircraft.

                        And we did not call Tu-22 that way, but "Blind John" or "Slit", rarely "Tank"!

                        [img] http://www.doroga.ua/Handlers/ContentImageHandler.ashx?CatalogPOIContentIma
                        geID = 5619 & Size = Big [/ img]

                        [img] http://www.doroga.ua/Handlers/ContentImageHandler.ashx?CatalogPOIContentIma
                        geID = 5620 & Size = Big [/ img]


                        Here is almost everything, only the Tu-16 did not "fit":

                        Its separate:
                      3. VAF
                        VAF 26 May 2012 13: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Kars
                        Is it interesting that he can still take off?


                        Tu-22M3-theoretically yes, but only through the CWR, "not much plundered, although the age is already under 30 years old, since the first began to receive in 1981, and M2 were given to Shaikovka, in 52 guards tbap.

                        But the Tu-160 ...? Hardly, although he himself flew from Pryluk !!!
                      4. Kars
                        Kars 26 May 2012 14: 06
                        +1
                        Well, I’ll hope that Ukraine doesn’t need long-range bombers. But it would still be nice to know that the Tu-160 can eclipse the wings over Bucharest with wings.
                      5. saturn.mmm
                        saturn.mmm 26 May 2012 20: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Kars
                        The Tu-160 can ..wind the wings over the sun over Bucharest.

                        It is possible and Tu-22M3 combat load is almost the same and the 22nd more universal. Stalin felt sorry for the Romanians, apparently in vain. Another Andrey question is how to put an article on the site.
                    2. Splin
                      Splin 26 May 2012 00: 13
                      0
                      And also in Kiev in the Aviation Museum. Truth in Poltava has the best "commodity
                      th view "
              2. VAF
                VAF 25 May 2012 23: 36
                0
                Quote: Splin
                You could believe the photos if it weren’t for


                Wow what unbelieving you are ....

                And that in Nikolaev the Il-76 and Il-78 planes of the Air Force of Ukraine and other countries undergo modernization and repair, you believe in it or again, but ....

                1. Splin
                  Splin 25 May 2012 23: 53
                  +1
                  I don’t believe that. He sent me to YouTube, where a photo collage called "The fate of the Ukrainian army, rare photos" From the whole truth, only a submarine and maybe warehouses (they are at the same level with Russia.). And in Ukraine they have never done this with Tushki. They were "undressed" only a week before the guillotine. This was the only pride of our army.
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 26 May 2012 00: 19
                    +2
                    Quote: Splin
                    photo collage entitled "The fate of the Ukrainian army, rare photos"


                    you believe, I won’t even go looking ... since ... you can take pictures of it so that your heart will burst ...

                    One must believe in the future and in a good future, but without faith ... why then live ???

                    Or do you think that everything is so "smooth and sweet" here? +! FOR RISING OPTIMISM! drinks
            3. VAF
              VAF 25 May 2012 23: 27
              0
              Quote: DEMENTIY
              A modernization in Ukrainian


              Why so ....! If you want. I’ll dump you so much of our good that your Mariupol Metallurgical Plant will be provided with trouble-free operation for 10 years ....

              you must always believe in the best !!!

              7th Aviation Bomber Brigade of the Air Force of Ukraine from Starokonstantinovo.
              Repair and modernization of the Su-24 is carried out at the Nikolaev Aircraft Repair Plant
              Su-24M with a suspended bomb KAB-500

          2. VAF
            VAF 25 May 2012 23: 12
            +2
            Quote: Splin
            I got data while I wrote, the article was deleted. Bummer.


            Don’t be upset, you weren’t the only one ... apparently someone didn’t like it ... +!

            Aviators of the 299th tactical aviation brigade of the Air Command "South" of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Nikolaev received a batch of two modernized Su-25 M1 aircraft.

            Overhaul and modernization of winged machines took place at the State Enterprise "Zaporizhzhya State Aircraft Repair Plant" Migremont "

            It should be noted that last year the 299 assault aviation brigade of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, deployed in the Mykolayiv region, received two Su-25M1 and a training Su-25UBM1 “spark” from MiGremont.
            The transfer of two more modernized Su-25M1 attack aircraft to military pilots will take place in the coming days.

        2. VAF
          VAF 25 May 2012 22: 59
          +1
          Quote: Odious
          But you forget that, I'm a pessimist,


          Sorry, dear Su-27 was "capricious" something, now I will correct:


          The Su-27 fighter of the Ukrainian Air Force with a new tail number "100 blue" (formerly "58 blue", serial number 35717) receives a new camouflage color upon completion of repairs at the MiGremont Zaporozhye State Aviation Repair Plant. .28.04.2012
      2. Vyalik
        Vyalik 25 May 2012 15: 50
        +1
        But what can’t we create? Only the USSR that we created, we are now modernizing.
        1. Splin
          Splin 25 May 2012 15: 56
          +1
          No we can not. We do not have a scientific school in this subject. Transport aircraft please. AN-140T, An178.
          1. Kars
            Kars 25 May 2012 16: 12
            +5
            There would be a task and the customer --- maybe they built a new one. Not the fifth generation --- the Swedish SAAB Grippen did it, and fine. Just the point? For the Ukrainian Air Force, what is there to bring to mind, to finish electronics and everything will be fine. there it is already possible and will look.
            1. Splin
              Splin 25 May 2012 18: 08
              +3
              We wanted to produce in Odessa, the Yak-130, then the Chinese L-15. The Mikoyanites offered to assemble MIG-AT for export, discussed at the government level, the purchase of all documentation for the Sukhoi S-54 (56) -a series is still there. It's like with the "Sapsan" IFRK. We wanted to do a lot in one, but we calculated that the new modernized missile for the S-300 would be much cheaper. In January, they abandoned the air defense missile system for the Sapsan. So let's drink to ensure that our desires always coincide with our capabilities!
              1. Captain Vrungel
                Captain Vrungel 25 May 2012 20: 19
                +1
                Dear Splin! In what condition is all that remains on the School. Where are all those specialists. Where is the fraud. Artisans patch a couple of fighters for Arabs in a makeshift way a year. Soon, the frying pans will start riveting from that non-ferrous scrap metal in the cemetery parking lot.
                1. Splin
                  Splin 25 May 2012 20: 44
                  +1
                  I have to agree with the pain. The projects to make the plant aircraft-building remained projects, but it is bent. Although recently for the Air Force still went through two L-39s.
            2. Splin
              Splin 26 May 2012 00: 34
              0
              In pursuit. SAAB has always been engaged in fighter jets, the beginning even before the war. Cars went later. His first car, SAAB 93, was purged in a wind tunnel. Here they have a school, they did not create influenza from floundering bay.
        2. VAF
          VAF 26 May 2012 00: 10
          0
          Quote: Wyalik
          But what can’t we create? Only the USSR that we created, we are now modernizing.


          And enlighten me. Please, what new things have we created that would not use the "backlog" of the USSR?

          And then I forgot something ... maybe I'm getting old, and ??? drinks

          Quote: Wyalik
          Only the USSR that we created, we are now modernizing.


          Everything is new, it’s well forgotten old !!! Axiom. By the way! Law! good

          The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Dmitry Salamatin signed an order to adopt the Mi-24PU1 military combat helicopter after the deep modernization carried out at the enterprises of the Russian defense industry complex.

          The Mi-24PU1 army combat helicopter is designed to destroy armored and unarmored ground small targets, enemy manpower, and also for fire support of troops at any time of the day. The combat vehicle is effective in high altitude conditions, has increased combat capabilities of using airborne weapons, as well as reliable protection against missiles with infrared homing heads.

          The Mi-24P helicopter was modernized by installing modified TVZ-1I7VMA-SBM1V-02 engines, the Adros KT-01AV optoelectronic countermeasures station, the BUR-4-1-07 flight data collection and registration system, and the ASP- modernized aviation rifle sight 17VPM-V, the FPM-01kv laser sighting system, the GPS MAR-695 satellite navigation system, the KY-196V ultrashort-wave radio station, the ЕВС-406АFНМ emergency radio beacon, as well as the GTX-327 radar transponder with the AK-350 height sensor.

          The personal equipment of the crew includes protective helmets TNL-5NV with night vision goggles PNL-3.
          To ensure the possibility of using night vision goggles on board, the adaptation of the internal and external lighting equipment of the helicopter was performed.

    2. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 25 May 2012 13: 17
      +1
      Odious
      Do you have any facts about the lack of aviation in Ukraine? present, it is very interesting to read nonsense!

      I threw off the pictures the day before yesterday, just the opposite

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qKlWJPytpY

      the fact that she is in a deplorable state after the reign ofMARANzhistov is - YES! BUT SHE IS ALIVE!

      In Buddhist cosmology Mara personified as the embodiment of artlessness, the death of spiritual life. Mara - a tempter, distracting people from spiritual practices by giving the attractiveness of earthly life or giving the negative as positive.
      1. Odious
        Odious 25 May 2012 13: 38
        +5
        Vitaliy 11
        You are a philosopher! belay
        But not me.
    3. VAF
      VAF 25 May 2012 22: 56
      0
      Quote: Odious
      With all due respect, the article was not about Ukrainian aviation, but about its absence.


      And who, dear to you, said this ??? Let me be curious ???

      Here are photos of two fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force (MiG-29 and Su-27), which completed overhaul in 2012 and received a new "digital" camouflage, so fashionable recently in the Air Force of a number of countries (and most famous in the form of camouflage of MiG fighters -29 of the Slovak Air Force).
      At the same time, the aircraft received a different color scheme of camouflage.
      It is unclear whether these camouflage patterns will be distributed in the Ukrainian Air Force.

      The MiG-29 fighter of the Ukrainian Air Force with tail number "02 blue" received a new digital camouflage upon completion of repairs at the Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant.
      Camouflage gray shades, the closest to the Slovak scheme.
      Lviv, May 2012
  6. Alexei
    Alexei 25 May 2012 12: 07
    +14
    And I am so naive and simple in my heart, I hope and believe that the fashion for Russophobia will pass.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 25 May 2012 12: 24
      +17
      Alexey
      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
      Only by naivety can one think so.
  7. with
    with 25 May 2012 12: 12
    +2
    And how do you like this news-Stop the WTO! Syria goes to the Customs Union ...?
    http://warfiles.ru/show-7724-stop-vto-siriya-idet-v-tamozhennyy-soyuz.html
    1. Aventurinka
      Aventurinka 25 May 2012 13: 11
      +5
      In principle, there would be an ideal move .... But I'm afraid that ours will not go for it. For some reason they really want to be in the WTO ... But for me, it would be better if the CU were expanded ... Faster would the Eurasian Union form ...
  8. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 25 May 2012 12: 15
    0
    but in my opinion just a commercial!
  9. Goga
    Goga 25 May 2012 12: 35
    +5
    A man is trying as best he can, fighting for the right thing, but it seems to me to predict a civil war and even shoot videos about it is not the right method. The effect can be quite the opposite - it will only do more harm ... No.
    1. 11Goor11
      11Goor11 25 May 2012 14: 24
      +2
      The people living in Ukraine have two strong ideas:
      My hut on the edge
      What for us war
      And if I personally disagree with the first, then for the second with both hands.
      During the orange confrontation, there were many attempts to make a riot, but in the end (! Luckily!) The civilians in the cordon drank hot tea, and in some places cloves (flowers smile )

      And still the military and SBUshniki standing at the helm will not run away,
      what they said in this video, they say ALL power and weapons went to some random small groups - FULL nonsense! am
      Perhaps the sale of weapons under the guise of
      Even if we assume that civilian power has disappeared
      But who, being in your mind, will let go of the hands of REAL MILITARY power !?
      A few generals will simply gather and introduce a temporary martial law. Curmudgeon and "all the cases", until we figure out where to go now for all of us laughing .
      1. Winter
        Winter 25 May 2012 14: 39
        +6
        11Goor11,
        First, the extreme hut harness first.
        Secondly, as history shows, in all revolutionary events, the weakest link has always been the power structures, the police and state security. They were the first to hang them on the streetlights, and by the legs.
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 25 May 2012 16: 57
          +1
          So far, history shows that everything in Ukraine is going quite peacefully. I hope this will continue. Our gentlemen drag "each other" by the forelock in parliament. And the people just want to work and live, but they don't need such "SCENARIOS". Do you want Winter to be different?
          1. 755962
            755962 25 May 2012 21: 15
            +3
            Quote: 11Goor11
            everything in Ukraine is quite peaceful.

            God forbid. The politicians have a "mess" in their heads, and to disentangle it ... well, of course, to the people! I also join your post. Today I saw on TV how they fought in the Rada.
    2. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 25 May 2012 15: 44
      +1
      I join your opinion
  10. Cadet787
    Cadet787 25 May 2012 12: 42
    -1
    The situation shown in the video, quite believable and the topic raised in it, has a right to be.
  11. Kiev
    Kiev 25 May 2012 12: 51
    -13
    Provocacy! Total bullshit! laughing
    1. 755962
      755962 25 May 2012 21: 18
      +3
      Provocation, written with "I". And what did you mean by
      Quote: Kiev
      Total bullshit!

      please explain.And DO NOT MATCH !!!!!!!!! you are welcome!
  12. Net
    Net 25 May 2012 13: 02
    +7
    Nonsense is the whole war between Ukraine and Russia. The Ukrainian army conducted a survey among officers about such a scenario of events, according to the results it turned out that this would not be a war, but mass desertion and failure to comply with direct orders. Well, the banderlogs will go a little crazy, but they’ll sooner imagine it themselves than the Russian army gets to them. Give us just a reason, and Crimea will sail away from the Ukrainian coast.
    1. Eraser
      Eraser 25 May 2012 13: 18
      -15
      Bugaga, for 20 years they didn’t give a single reason? Take off yourself, but let Crimea remain.
    2. 11Goor11
      11Goor11 25 May 2012 14: 48
      +1
      So in that "scenario" the war is not with Russia, but with "own" illegal armed groups belay
    3. uizik
      uizik 25 May 2012 17: 45
      +2
      Do not forget there are still warriors of the USSR Armed Forces, which are not for sale! And they have gunpowder in powder flasks!
    4. ivan 92
      ivan 92 25 May 2012 21: 12
      -1
      I think the Ukrainian officers remember, that the stench swore to the Ukrainian people, and in the independence (God forbid), if there is a stink, they won’t be engaged in desertion
      1. Splin
        Splin 25 May 2012 21: 24
        +2
        I did not swear, I took the oath. And the price of speech! (I did not swear, I took the oath, and these are different things!)
        1. ivan 92
          ivan 92 25 May 2012 21: 43
          0
          Vibachayu for a stylish cut,
  13. yura9113
    yura9113 25 May 2012 13: 18
    +5
    here's the newcomer about Ukraine: http://warfiles.ru/7733-draka-v-verhovnoy-rade-iz-za-russkogo-yazyka-video.html, very sad ..... than Russian doesn’t interfere with Westerners, unclear?? the whole east speaks it.
  14. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 25 May 2012 13: 25
    +5
    I wonder what kind of video he will shoot in 2015 if his "predictions" do not come true - I also have a newfound damnation
    The usual propaganda video in order to earn cheap credibility and the desire to become a hero.
    He had to turn to the screenwriter who wrote the script for the film "4 Days in May" and invite Guskov! Then, if not for the presidency, then at least the Oscar would have got ........
  15. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 25 May 2012 13: 48
    +3
    ... Yes, the tales of the Vienna Woods ....... then the United States is burying Russia, then Ukraine
    here at all .... the top of the absurdity is not known to anybody pretzel with the help of 5-6 people with toy machines.
  16. atos_kin
    atos_kin 25 May 2012 14: 05
    0
    About the video. Too sketchy. East goes west. Realities will be more difficult. In some families it will be like in a civil: father to son, brother to brother, etc. Here you can’t introduce troops. I'm not talking about the financial interests of the new (old) oligarchs. It blazes so that attempts to extinguish will not let the oceans and seas sit out. Better not to inflate.

    About the language. Yes, this is a pronounced detonator. In my opinion, to reduce the incandescence it is necessary to introduce three: Ukrainian - the status of the state, Russian - the status of the language of interethnic communication, English - the status of the language of interstate communication. Choose which language to study, communicate, watch movies, read prescriptions for drugs, etc. it should not be the rightful right of the people.
  17. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 25 May 2012 14: 44
    0
    Like everything is very real. If it begins, then the massacre will be wild, until each other is completely destroyed, in spite of family, friendly relations, etc. There will be blood in the Dnieper instead of water. Scared for the children
  18. escobar
    escobar 25 May 2012 14: 53
    +5
    I myself do not understand Yanukovych and his team (although I voted for him). It seems like he is trying to eat a fish and sit in a chair, but he walks "hungry" and there is nothing to sit down on !! And he took a shit with Europe and Russia is not okay. rating 8%. This is not how I see my president ...
  19. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 25 May 2012 14: 55
    +2
    Everything is very real (God forbid, of course)
  20. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 25 May 2012 15: 00
    +2
    For me, this is a cheap move (I mean this video). Unas under E ... B ... Chickpea was the same "jelly". Nothing, with a creak, but we come out of "nothingness". I hope everything will be settled in Ukraine as well.
  21. Tirpitz
    Tirpitz 25 May 2012 15: 20
    -9
    Author's count! Even only SBU is engaged?
    1. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 25 May 2012 17: 53
      +3
      only benderlogs have the right to boil water, and the SBU should take care of the rest wassat
  22. ZHORA
    ZHORA 25 May 2012 17: 11
    -9
    This Donbas already got everyone with a share of GDP. Countries in 16,8% received subsidies by 38%. Enough to feed the Donbass already! Most of them are still lumpen ...
    1. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 25 May 2012 17: 44
      +5
      circus tent, in 1918 they proclaimed the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic, no, they came up with their idea of ​​"Ukraine", in 2004. submitted the idea of ​​detaching Donbass from "Ukraine" and dispersed everyone and everything! They don't want to live with you, so why are you bothering us yourself, the breadwinners are worthless? request
      1. ZHORA
        ZHORA 25 May 2012 18: 03
        -10
        And bring down the fuck, without you BETTER ALL and your Donetsk freaks in power take with you ... the people of Ukraine already hate you ...
        1. Don
          Don 28 May 2012 13: 48
          +1
          Quote: JORA
          the people of Ukraine hate you already ..

          You are not a bazaar for the whole Ukraine, you wise guy. Most of the population of Ukraine, just Bendera hates you. Ukraine is our land and we don’t have to bring anything down, and you beggars plug the hawalis.
    2. Don
      Don 28 May 2012 13: 46
      +1
      Quote: JORA
      This Donbas already got everyone with a share of GDP. Countries in 16,8% received subsidies by 38%.

      This Donetsk region makes 24% of Ukraine’s exports, and Lugansk 11%, total Donbass makes 35% of Ukraine’s exports. Keep your tales about subsidies to yourself. In Ukraine, 5 donor cities are all other donated.
      The budget will be given to the city of Donetsk - UAH 160 million, the city of Dnipropetrovsk - UAH 120 million, the city of Zaporozhye - UAH 50 million, the city of Illichivsk - UAH 60 million, the city of Kiev - 6,5 billion UAH (only due to the fact that most large companies are registered in the capital).
      This year:
      Earn / Take from the budget
      Crimea - 1,3 / 0,15
      Dnepropetrovsk region. - 1,4 / 0,2
      Donetsk region. - 1,6 / 0,5
      But the patriotic western regions:
      Ivano-Frankivsk - 0,27 / 0,35
      Lviv - 0,6 / 0,8
      Volynskaya - 0,2 / 0,35
      The numbers speak for themselves.
      1. iZiZy
        iZiZy 19 September 2012 17: 29
        -1
        the figures also say that this is propaganda by YanukOvoshch and, in fact, Daunbass is the most subsidized region of Ukraine.
  23. bremest
    bremest 25 May 2012 17: 39
    +3
    I think that this scenario would be to the joy of the Anglo-Saxons ...... think again guys .......
  24. aspirin02
    aspirin02 25 May 2012 18: 00
    +2
    Bullshit ..... complete bullshit .... Our people of 500 years have gathered this independence, so forget about the split and the like ...
    1. Eraser
      Eraser 25 May 2012 19: 04
      +2
      Well written. drinks
    2. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 25 May 2012 20: 43
      +4
      That so zapadentsy (since 1939 only became Ukrainians) are baked about historical justice. I, too, for justice. New Russia should belong to those who created it. My ancestor in the army of Suvorov took the fortress Hadzhibey and began construction of the port-city of Odessa. East, south, Crimea, west prove that Ukraine is assembled from rags and to build it under someone, as forcing someone, is a crime. It is fashionable to achieve unity only by respecting each other. Language, customs, traditions. No other is given.
  25. sichevik
    sichevik 25 May 2012 18: 25
    +1
    Yes, this scenario is unrealistic. If there is a split in Ukraine, then it will occur peacefully. A split can happen if the current leadership continues the policy as it is now.
    Ukrainians are peaceful people and do not like to fight, but they know how. If they get it as it should, then it will not seem enough. Raise the Ukrainian to the war is not easy. But Nestor Ivanovich Makhno was able to raise the villagers (my hut from the edge) to the war. And how they fought !!! And if such a Leader appears in Ukraine, then it will be difficult to predict anything.
  26. zevs379
    zevs379 25 May 2012 18: 51
    +2
    The rationalization of pure water - This person has no conscience.
    On your dysfunction plays an alny.
    Propiaril your filmets and you clung to each other in forelocks. Do not give in!
    Judging by the hara, the same is the son of a lawyer (similar to a girik).
    Live Ukraine peacefully and richly. Only in this pidrilnoy Europe do not go. drinks
  27. ivan 92
    ivan 92 25 May 2012 21: 06
    0
    Yak on me, it’s not adequate video nihto do not want to fight, people think like yo kіntsі z kіntsyami bloom, but not about vіyna

    Net, I think that the Ukrainian officers may be in good condition, they won the oath to the Ukrainian people, and in the case of independence, they will always be with Russia, and Poland and Poland will be able to understand this.
    1. zevs379
      zevs379 25 May 2012 22: 00
      0
      Unclear !-
      Quote: ivan 92
      Netto, I think that the Ukrainian officials may be in private, they won the vow to the Ukrainian people, and in the case of independence, Rosiu chi Polshchuy chi Romunіyu stink to come around to obyyazyut svyazy (take in time such taka vіraє)


      Please in Russian
      1. ivan 92
        ivan 92 25 May 2012 22: 09
        +2
        I don't mean that the officer himself is guilty of taking over his people, I am worried about the ignorance of the Russian Movies, I don’t want to robbed the person, I don’t know anything about it
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 26 May 2012 00: 19
          0
          God Almighty!
          Give us at least the CIS, only so that no war ..
  28. doc_russian
    doc_russian 26 May 2012 01: 28
    +1
    Ukrainians! (!) We always fought together for the Motherland, striking enemies with valor and awakening awe and fear with their common heroioism! What happened to us, that as an excuse, in particular, you poke old photos with the remnants of the USSR Army (aviation in particular) - Our common homeland as an excuse! We are one people and one nation - be afraid of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who laid down their lives for our Motherland!
    And about the filmets - it’s a disaster! In Russia, for this guys have folded many young heads! God forbid you get to this! In Unity, Our Truth, and not in fat, and potatoes!
    God is with us! We will be in the place - the Slavs!


    zevs379

    Guys H_Ohly !!
    Listen to this lad - it speaks!
    And God grant you grace!
  29. philosopher
    philosopher 26 May 2012 03: 15
    +2
    Quote: Captain Vrungel
    To this seer to hit on the head so that the brains work. Stop dividing the people into eastern and western


    I disagree! Dear, look at the comments - the people have long been divided. Already the next generation of "Nezalezhniki" sprouted, and they were 20 years old "brainwashed." Civil war hangs over the unhappy Ukraine with the sword of Damocles. The script will not be exactly the same as in the video. An intermediate, restraining stage is also possible - reorganization into a federal state, but this will not save the situation for a long time, but only further spread the east and west, south and center. I live in the east, but we already have Bandera's followers like dogs ... I don’t go to their farmsteads and caches, why do they come to me? I did not invite them, which means that one day I will have to see them off, both visitors and local people. But they will not want to leave, and the government does not want a federation - a large country gives great opportunities, and so on.
    Then someone else said, "why are you sitting there and not doing anything?" Can you solve a lot with empty hands? I'm not Rimbaud, and I don't cook explosives in the kitchen. And all the elections we have, then all the garbage. Whoever bought the place is in command at all levels. (And what about you, is the situation with the elections very different?) If it gets "to the point", there will be "what", then "we can, don't be afraid." I still have a military ID of the USSR. Russia declared itself the legal successor of my Motherland, therefore, to fight against NATO, albeit in Ukraine, but I owe Russia. I was in the mountains, in the taiga I was, AKM, SKS, PM - I know. I can also do something else.
    The East has not yet said its word, and Russia could at least morally support the Russian-speaking national minority of Ukraine (we are now called that). They say that in the territories bordering Georgia, Russia issued Russian passports to those who wish. So why not do the same with Ukraine? Do not give to criminals, drug addicts, homeless people, etc. And to normal people who were born in the USSR and have relatives in Russia - why not give dual citizenship or Russian citizenship. I will not run to you, I will fulfill my duty here too, but I will know that I have a homeland somewhere. It's crappy, guys, when there is no homeland ... It's not my fault that I ended up on the wrong side of the border. And we, here, too, Russians stayed. But our passports don't even have the "nationality" column. They just write "citizen of Ukraine". If we statistically count all Ukrainians, then a third of the total population in the country will not be typed.
    In general, the topic is such that you can talk a lot. I do not get involved in the discussion. He said that he was in pain, his opinion.
    Just know: not everyone here will lick the NATO boot.
  30. philosopher
    philosopher 26 May 2012 03: 44
    0
    Splin,
    And also in Kiev in the Aviation Museum. Truth in Poltava has the best "commodity

    I am interested in a similar subject, namely military equipment. (True, primarily with tanks.) The planes were filmed for me in the Luhansk museum at the aircraft repair plant. I know that there are still planes somewhere near Kiev. I want to go before they get cut. (In Donetsk, monuments of the Great Patriotic War are already being cut. I wrote about this in "The Terminator from the Red Army").
    Please give the names of the nearest settlements to the museum. I understand that aviation is not in Kiev itself, it is in the suburbs, on which side?
    I hope the request does not complicate you. Thanks in advance.
    1. Splin
      Splin 26 May 2012 06: 43
      0
      Do not cut them do not rush. This is the state aviation museum. It is located in Zhulyany, near the airport, i.e. in Kiev itself. Here I can’t tell you how to get there. I have never been there. I want it myself.
      1. aspirin02
        aspirin02 28 May 2012 07: 48
        0
        I was there 4 years ago .. A very interesting place .... Only there, the place of the bear, another plane is very similar to it, the model forgot ... but civilian aviation predominates there mostly.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e45DDdE_KVE&feature=related

        Look ... a good video .... the moment with the nuclear bomber in the parade over Khreschatyk is very good
  31. razved
    razved 26 May 2012 15: 51
    0
    It is quite possible such a development.
  32. iZiZy
    iZiZy 19 September 2012 17: 27
    0
    In sausage Daunbassky. Bullshit, they’re not getting to Kiev, they won’t leave their Daunbass laughing