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Haaretz: Russia refused to visit Lieberman and Netanyahu after the tragedy with IL-20

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Israeli media write about the reaction of the Russian authorities to the proposal to bring Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman or Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Moscow after the tragedy with Il-20 off the coast of Syria. Newspaper Haaretz asserts that supposedly such an offer came from Israel, but Moscow allegedly did not accept it. That is why, as reported in the newspaper, the commander of the Israeli air force Amikam Norkin went to Moscow.


Haaretz: Russia refused to visit Lieberman and Netanyahu after the tragedy with IL-20


Haaretz also claims that the Israeli side was proposing to Russian colleagues to send a delegation to the Russian capital, headed by Meir Ben-Shabat, who is the head of the Israeli National Security Council. It is stated that Russia rejected this proposal, saying that it prefers that in this case there should be professional contacts with reports of specific actions of the F-16 near the Russian aviation base "Hmeimim."

Even if that was exactly the case, then Moscow’s actions are completely understandable - the Defense Ministry was much more important to get information from a professional, who is Norkin, about the incident in the air. Even more important is to see Israeli data on the air situation over the west of Syria on that fateful evening. There was little point in listening to Premier Netanyahu after his telephone conversation with President Putin, in fact, was no longer there.

Recall that it was after the visit to Moscow of Amikam Norkin, who met with colleagues from the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation, at the Russian Defense Ministry at a special briefing presented the data that one of the Israeli fighters literally hid behind an IL-20 electronic surveillance aircraft. About this, based on the radar data of the C-400 radar missile system, located at the Khmeimim airbase, was reported by Major General Konashenkov.

Israel, meanwhile, continues to insist that all four of the F-16 at the time of the impact of the C-200 air defense system of the Syrian air defense forces were already "at home".
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  1. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 26 September 2018 14: 52
    +14
    Has Russia really gone Vabank, if the kosher ones have been shaved off? This is certainly great, but if in the words of Popandopalo from "Wedding in Robin" - We (Planet) are on the eve of a grandiose nix.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 September 2018 14: 55
      +3
      all four F-16s at the time of the S-200 air defense strike of Syria were already “at home”.

      Let them really be "at home" in their America, and not here in the Middle East!
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 26 September 2018 15: 06
      +19
      while all-in did not go all-Russia, but only security officials led by Shoigu ... therefore, the conversation with Norkin was brief ... only 21 minutes ...
      the Zionist lobby is very strong and has plenty of opportunities ...
      remember the situation with Erdogan after the SU-24 ... he also tried to talk with Putin ...
      for a long time the Turks fiddled with ???? ... a whole year ... and then "peace-friendship-chewing gum" ... and a nuclear power plant with a flow at our expense ... and S-400 on a silver platter ...
      so it’s too early to throw bonnets into the air ... the Russian Forbes list for all those who doubt to help ...
      1. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov 26 September 2018 15: 12
        +10
        Alex, to the point. Pennies, and even stolen, they do things worse than the most equipped Armies. The Pope of Macedon was right, Philip-2: A donkey loaded with gold will open any gate.
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 26 September 2018 15: 29
          +5
          Nikolay, it's not so much about a "donkey with sacks of gold" here ...
          it’s just that many Formuans have a somewhat distorted idea of ​​realities ...
          without the participation of Israel, it’s not possible to somehow smooth out the situation in the BV ... that Jews, that Arabs are natural catalysts for the region’s instability ... it happened historically ...
          and there’s no point in talking about peaceful coexistence in this terrarium ... here, at least from Syria to prevent a second Libya ...
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 27 September 2018 03: 30
            0
            Quote: kepmor
            without of participation Israel at least somehow smooth out the situation in BV is not possible


            Alex.

            This is a conflict of interest.

            Quote: kepmor
            that the Jews that the Arabs - natural catalysts for regional instability


            How to be with the Arabs?

            And you are telling us for a distorted view.
      2. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 26 September 2018 15: 16
        +2
        Read the Russian media, there is often pro-Israeli position. and as such the provocation of the Israeli F-16s is not mentioned ... Even such versions that the Israeli F-16 tried to save the IL-20 are the talk of the power of the fifth Israeli column in Russia ...
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 26 September 2018 15: 41
          -3
          I tried to analyze it, so I still think that opinions in Russian media were almost equally divided (and there are different opinions in ours too, not all are unanimous).
          1. Nikolai Petrov
            Nikolai Petrov 26 September 2018 16: 01
            +11
            The definition of "our" and your media is rather vague. Name at least one ethnic Russian in your media. Everyone knows about "our" media, even without the voice acting of names and surnames. Here the score is several times in your favor, while not in ours. That is why such protection of MANY representatives of "our" mass media of typical Jewish antics of your flyers. But not all the cat is Shrovetide.
            1. Cavalryman
              Cavalryman 26 September 2018 17: 21
              0
              Quote: Nikolai Petrov
              "Our" and your media is a rather vague definition. Name at least one ethnic Russian in your media.

              I would call them media! On the Internet, at least you can find out a little information that is reliable (by the way, everything is more difficult, they block everything!))) .. And then the continuous "world community considers"))) wassat
        2. SSR
          SSR 26 September 2018 15: 47
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          Read the Russian media, there is often pro-Israeli position.

          I watched the news 24 in the spring and the host, Alexander Kareyevsky, breasted up to defend Israel when one of the interlocutors said that Israel was arrogant.
          I was so overwhelmed by this, although they were discussing their bombing.
          1. Cavalryman
            Cavalryman 26 September 2018 17: 24
            0
            Quote: SSR
            I watched the news 24 in the spring and the host, Alexander Kareyevsky, breasted up to defend Israel when one of the interlocutors said that Israel was arrogant.

            How is this all familiar and here on the site including .. soldier
      3. Law abiding citizen
        Law abiding citizen 26 September 2018 15: 16
        +2
        All-in, nobody will go-If there were such characters in power, there would have been nothing and no one for a long time.
      4. ghby
        ghby 26 September 2018 17: 13
        +2
        Quote: kepmor
        "... and a nuclear power plant with a flow at our expense ... and an S-400 on a silver platter ...

        and don’t find Turkey binding to us?
    3. Berber
      Berber 26 September 2018 15: 20
      0
      The fact that the C300 went to Syria is certainly great, but not "on the eve". But when they shave off F16, or even better Fu35, then yes. In essence, they have outlined intentions. So, the Jews got off with a slight fright.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 September 2018 16: 18
      +2
      Quote: Nikolai Petrov
      but if in the words of Popandopalo from "Wedding in Malinovka" - We (the Planet) are on the eve of a grandiose nix.

      Shucher began back in '14, when Ukraine was placed in the pose of an arthropod ... and then there was only more.
      As for shaving, and so on ... they will agree, shake hands, and 15 children will be awarded posthumously with a payment of one million families. That's the whole short period ... politics is a garbage dump in which the life of an ordinary citizen or soldier goes for a penny.
    5. Maz
      Maz 26 September 2018 21: 26
      +1
      Voices slander that in addition to the six S-300 air defense divisions, Syrian air defense will receive 20 Buk-M2 air defense systems, 36 Pantsir-S1 air defense missile systems, 25 Tor-M2U air defense systems and 15 S-125-2M air defense systems, even if they fly.
  2. Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 26 September 2018 14: 53
    +1
    It is clear what they consider "home"
    1. figwam
      figwam 26 September 2018 15: 08
      0
      Quote: Maximilian37
      It is clear what they consider "home"

      Where does not finish off the S-200 ...
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    1. kepmor
      kepmor 26 September 2018 16: 38
      +2
      in such matters, sending to .... is pure gopnichestvo ... but here is still geopolitics with the conjunctural interests of the parties ... and all partners are temporary ...
      The USSR, with all its military and economic power, at one time also relied exclusively on the Arab world ... and what was the result ???? ...
      in the end, on whose side was Egypt and Lebanon in the 80s ???? ... what gratitude from Libya to Algeria ???? ... could prevent the massacre between Iran and Iraq to please the same Jews with the Saudis ??? ? ...
      only Syria was kept near itself at the expense of billions of dollars of infusions ... and then thanks to the Allavite leadership ...
      But how much time, effort and money did our Russian Federation take to restore more or less normal relations after the Soviet Blitzgrieg ???? ... for almost 25 years ...
      quarrel with everyone is a simple matter ... only then what ???? ... the third world and the whole world in ruins ???? ....
  4. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 26 September 2018 14: 57
    -30
    Nevertheless, there are two factors that can sober up even the most crazy enemies of Israel, not to mention the pragmatists:
    1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength. And those who want to check it again, will be convinced of the fallacy of their errors quickly and painfully.
    2. Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool (both in the domestic and international arena) that they will definitely be taken advantage of, give only a reason.

    In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...
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    2. genisis
      genisis 26 September 2018 15: 02
      +31
      In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

      Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool.

      You would either "take off the cross, or put on panties" (c).
      Decide, are you so cool that no, God forbid, or you just have a good roof?
      Apparently the strength of the Israeli Air Force is forcing the Israeli Prime Minister right now to ask Trump to help somehow resolve the issue with the Russian leadership.
      https://inosmi.ru/politic/20180926/243331131.html
      Israelis, is it enough for you to blow your cheeks?
      Everyone knows your potential at the regional level, but nobody considers you a global player. Do you think you are ready to go all in? Just weigh what is at stake for you and what is for Russia. Shoot down your arrogance.
      We do not need the downfall of your aircraft, I will say more, we still need a working relationship with a significant regional player.
      Therefore, you, first, will be comprehensively punished for your actions that led to the death of our servicemen. Secondly, you will meekly accept this and continue to cooperate further with the Russian Federation.
      No matter how good you may seem to yourself, but the RF is not your caliber.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 26 September 2018 15: 17
        -24
        Quote: genisis
        In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

        Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool.

        You would either "take off the cross, or put on panties" (c).
        Decide, are you so cool that no, God forbid, or you just have a good roof?
        Apparently the strength of the Israeli Air Force is forcing the Israeli Prime Minister right now to ask Trump to help somehow resolve the issue with the Russian leadership.
        https://inosmi.ru/politic/20180926/243331131.html
        Israelis, is it enough for you to blow your cheeks?
        Everyone knows your potential at the regional level, but nobody considers you a global player. Do you think you are ready to go all in? Just weigh what is at stake for you and what is for Russia. Shoot down your arrogance.
        We do not need the downfall of your aircraft, I will say more, we still need a working relationship with a significant regional player.
        Therefore, you, first, will be comprehensively punished for your actions that led to the death of our servicemen. Secondly, you will meekly accept this and continue to cooperate further with the Russian Federation.
        No matter how good you may seem to yourself, but the RF is not your caliber.

        1. I trust the conclusions of the report compiled by the command of our Air Force, and I do not believe the conclusions of your generals. Therefore, I believe that Israel is in no way guilty of the destruction of your aircraft. But Israel’s accusations are either an attempt to hide the miscalculations of your generals, or some kind of political intrigue of the Russian establishment, which is not aimed at achieving interests in Russia or in the international arena.

        2. I believe that cooperation, more precisely, the coordination of interests and actions between Israel and Russia benefited both countries. Perhaps still will benefit in the future.

        3. The elimination of Iranian military installations near the borders of Israel is an essential issue for us, a matter of survival, not of principle or prestige. Therefore, we will continue to destroy the positions of Iran and its puppets (first of all, Hezbollah) that threaten us. If the Syrian air defenses prevent this, they will be destroyed too.

        4. Until now, of all the clashes without exception with the Soviet / Russian weapons in the Soviet / Iranian / Arab hands, Israel has emerged victorious. And, as a rule, crushing.

        5. For the current US administration, the opportunity to prove itself as an advocate of Israel against Russia is a win-win and convenient option, both in the run-up to congressional elections and to strengthen the international image.

        6. Thus, Russia has gained a lot from good relations with Israel and will lose a lot if it takes the course of escalation.

        7. Your veiled threats in response to the deaths of your soldiers killed by Syrians are unfair, ugly and ridiculous, and in general are more like not a position of a sane person, but a hysterics of introducing himself into a trans Gopnik waving his gun in front of a special commando armed with an automatic rifle. (C)
        Thank you. hi
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 26 September 2018 15: 23
          +11
          So based on your words -
          I trust the conclusions of the report compiled by the command of our Air Force, and I do not believe the conclusions of your generals.

          You do not believe in the ability of the Syrian airborne gunner to bring down your pilot Leslie Block on July 10, 1949! The propeller blades simply fell off by themselves ...
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 26 September 2018 15: 37
            +11
            Quote: A. Privalov




            A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)


            1, 2, 3, ...

            You can add another 100 points of your conclusions, but what?

            Your opinion may be true .... for your country, but not for Russia

            Therefore, you will sit and wait for a decision from our side

            can add points to your conclusions so far

            And from a military point of view, your pilots may be the best in BV, but who said that someone is going to arrange aerial battles with your pilots?

            We have a Caspian flotilla, something else, and everything that needs to fly well ....





        2. ANCIENT
          ANCIENT 26 September 2018 15: 28
          +5
          rests hi with such a speech, you would at least run for the Israeli Knesset, or even at the premiere recourse just that, and you are already our man in a strange team lol in the meantime, work for the good of the motherland, and do not pour lol laughing
        3. ultra
          ultra 26 September 2018 15: 31
          +9
          Quote: A. Privalov
          1. I trust the conclusions of the report compiled by the command of our Air Force

          And I trust the data of our military and what's next?
        4. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 26 September 2018 15: 35
          +7
          Quote: A. Privalov
          6. Thus, Russia has gained a lot from good relations with Israel and will lose a lot if it takes the course of escalation.

          Alexander,
          Is the leadership of the Russian Federation headed for an escalation with Israel?

          A radical review of a number of provisions on responsibility in the Syrian conflict zone of both parties is required.

          And assuming the United States in your direction is the conjuncture of today's domestic policy of the country, striving for world hegemony by any means. And for Americans to spit on Israel, Russia or Iran, the EU, etc. - It's a question of time.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 26 September 2018 15: 48
            -5
            There is no escalation. A small military-political crisis. No need to make an elephant out of a fly (especially in the media, both states).
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 26 September 2018 16: 38
              +3
              Plus,
              hi
              But no discussion could not do.
              Especially on the site.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 26 September 2018 16: 40
                +5
                Quote: Shahno
                There is no escalation. A small military-political crisis. No need to make an elephant out of a fly (especially in the media, both states).


                and our dead 15 people, do you think this is a fly?

                or gentile blood is not worth attention?
        5. genisis
          genisis 26 September 2018 15: 42
          +9
          1) To whom you trust, your military or someone else does not have any value, because you are not involved in the decision-making process. And those who make decisions on the Russian side also decided on the one they trust. And this is not your military. Therefore, according to objective information from a number of competent departments, the Supreme Command of the Russian Federation announced that the actions of the Israeli military are in direct causal connection with the death of our military personnel. Since you trust your military so much, you can ask them why it was necessary to bring the situation to such a phase?
          2) The interaction between Israel and the Russian Federation was certainly beneficial to both parties. In the future, the interaction will continue.
          3) Your confrontation with Iran is really extremely important for you and is a vital issue of your very existence. A critical issue for you. And there are several such critical questions for you. How will you solve the problem with the sharply intensified Syrian air defense, right now, your Prime Minister in Washington is pondering.
          4) All Israel’s crushing victories took place in its local theater of operations. How can Israel attack the territory of the Russian Federation? Only comments on BO. At the same time, the Russian Federation may cause damage to Israel from a distance of many thousands of kilometers. Israel and the Russian Federation are completely different in every sense of the scale. No military confrontation with Israel by the Russian Federation is predicted.
          5) The US capacity to influence other global players is limited. Georgia also hoped that the United States would protect them. Israel, of course, means more to the US than Georgia, but the cause of a nuclear conflict will not be accurate.
          6) Thus, Israel won a lot from the interaction with the Russian Federation, and will lose everything if there is a conflict with the Russian Federation will be exacerbated.
          7) My threats are not veiled. This is a direct message to you that Israel will be punished for the responsibility that it assumed upon itself when the Russian servicemen died. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. In the modern world there is only one right - the right of power. And if we do not use it, then different Israelis will wipe their feet about us. But we value our dignity. And therefore just cause you adequate damage. Not necessarily taking the lives of your soldiers. But definitely striking you so hard that you understand that your style of communication with different Papuans out there, to which you are accustomed, ends when you communicate with people who respect themselves.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 26 September 2018 16: 11
            -13
            Quote: genisis
            1) To whom you trust, your military or someone else does not have any value, because you are not involved in the decision-making process. And those who make decisions on the Russian side also decided on the one they trust. And this is not your military. Therefore, according to objective information from a number of competent departments, the Supreme Command of the Russian Federation announced that the actions of the Israeli military are in direct causal connection with the death of our military personnel. Since you trust your military so much, you can ask them why it was necessary to bring the situation to such a phase?
            2) The interaction between Israel and the Russian Federation was certainly beneficial to both parties. In the future, the interaction will continue.
            3) Your confrontation with Iran is really extremely important for you and is a vital issue of your very existence. A critical issue for you. And there are several such critical questions for you. How will you solve the problem with the sharply intensified Syrian air defense, right now, your Prime Minister in Washington is pondering.
            4) All Israel’s crushing victories took place in its local theater of operations. How can Israel attack the territory of the Russian Federation? Only comments on BO. At the same time, the Russian Federation may cause damage to Israel from a distance of many thousands of kilometers. Israel and the Russian Federation are completely different in every sense of the scale. No military confrontation with Israel by the Russian Federation is predicted.
            5) The US capacity to influence other global players is limited. Georgia also hoped that the United States would protect them. Israel, of course, means more to the US than Georgia, but the cause of a nuclear conflict will not be accurate.
            6) Thus, Israel won a lot from the interaction with the Russian Federation, and will lose everything if there is a conflict with the Russian Federation will be exacerbated.
            7) My threats are not veiled. This is a direct message to you that Israel will be punished for the responsibility that it assumed upon itself when the Russian servicemen died. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. In the modern world there is only one right - the right of power. And if we do not use it, then different Israelis will wipe their feet about us. But we value our dignity. And therefore just cause you adequate damage. Not necessarily taking the lives of your soldiers. But definitely striking you so hard that you understand that your style of communication with different Papuans out there, to which you are accustomed, ends when you communicate with people who respect themselves.

            Do not fool your head, dear, neither yourself nor people. Your crooked "partners" shot down poor Ilyushin 25 (twenty five!) Minutes after the Israelis attack. Russia will not enter into an armed conflict with Israel, since Moscow is not ready to fight with any country whose army is stronger than the Ukrainian one:

            "Russia can only supply Assad with the S-300 system, negotiations are underway on this now - and this is probably the whole answer that the Kremlin promised Israel. Russia, in principle, is not ready to enter into an armed conflict with someone who is stronger than Ukraine! An armed confrontation with Israel, which has the most powerful air force in the Middle East, generally the most powerful army in the region, and has such weapons that Moscow does not have, would be so dangerous for Russia that the Kremlin is unlikely to do it. just turn around for the Russian army, roughly speaking, another Tsushima. No one in Moscow would take such a risk. "

            C-300 for Israelis - sunflower seeds. They had been preparing for a very long time to confront such air defense systems. Israel simply observes the rules of good tone and does not show the whole world that C-300 against the IDF Air Force cannot do anything. hi
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 26 September 2018 16: 48
              +7
              You calm down. The decision has already been made on the S-300. Brace yourself.
        6. Galleon
          Galleon 26 September 2018 16: 03
          -7
          We are here all together minus our Privalov, but if we sort out and discard his emotions, from his side only cynical truth will remain. See who has the money from our country? Are they Russian, or what? Is it in Russia? Therefore, even if not 20, but 200 (God forbid, of course) our children will die in Syria through the fault of the Jews and the cunning or the stupidity and carelessness of the command - our leaders will pohhutyat-pohuhtyat, and so all and limited.
          1. ASG7
            ASG7 26 September 2018 16: 29
            +8
            It is very cynical to blame the death of the guys and at the same time call for the redistribution of money. They die not for the one who has money in their pockets, but for relatives and friends, for their families, for their lifestyle, for their faith in the future of their children. Therefore, you can hardly be attributed to the Russian society and you will never find anyone who would go for battle for you and therefore are doomed to defeat.
          2. Dart
            Dart 26 September 2018 16: 50
            +2
            Do you think that there is no one to repeat the conditional "night of long knives" on a Semitic basis for the top?))
          3. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 26 September 2018 17: 01
            -7
            Quote: Galleon
            We are here all together minus our Privalov, but if we sort out and discard his emotions, from his side only cynical truth will remain. See who has the money from our country? Are they Russian, or what? Is it in Russia? Therefore, even if not 20, but 200 (God forbid, of course) our children will die in Syria through the fault of the Jews and the cunning or the stupidity and carelessness of the command - our leaders will pohhutyat-pohuhtyat, and so all and limited.

            And they control the weather and earthquakes. wassat
            - Rabinovich! I heard you read anti-semitic newspapers!
            - Well, yes, I read.
            - How can you! You are a Jew!
            - A very simple. At first I read Jewish newspapers. There is such a depression, I tell you! Everyone wants to exterminate the Jews, anti-Semitism is around, oppression, problems, everyone is crying ... I literally could not sleep! And now I read the anti-Semitic press - and what do you think? Solid positive! Jews rule the world, they captured everything, they are the richest, they decide everything everywhere!
            hi
          4. Cavalryman
            Cavalryman 26 September 2018 17: 41
            +2
            Quote: Galleon
            We all here together minus Privalov, but if you understand and discard his emotions, only cynical truth will remain on his part.

            We read their "truth" in 80-90 - in the media of their "ours" (even hang yourself) some kind of sabbath began in the country ..

            Quote: Galleon
            Therefore, even if not 20, but 200 (God forbid, of course) our guys will die in Syria because of the fault of the Jews and the tricks of the command and the stupidity and carelessness of the command — our leaders will whip and talk, and that’s all.

            You are right about this .. But the bottom line is that Russia must resist and here the youth reads us ..
            On TV and in the media, they can shut us up, but on the Internet it is still difficult .. Yes, they block the ban, but still the "our" authorities feel it perfectly .. Let's see how Putin will get out with Rotenberg.
            If you keep silent again, many countries from Russia will simply turn their backs and surrender to the mercy of Zionism and others ..
            And then we will only have to dig trenches and deeper .. Sanctions this time can be "pinpoint" missile attacks .. Oh, Russia.
        7. Sergey Ka
          Sergey Ka 26 September 2018 16: 16
          +3
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Quote: genisis
          In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

          Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool.

          You would either "take off the cross, or put on panties" (c).
          Decide, are you so cool that no, God forbid, or you just have a good roof?
          Apparently the strength of the Israeli Air Force is forcing the Israeli Prime Minister right now to ask Trump to help somehow resolve the issue with the Russian leadership.
          https://inosmi.ru/politic/20180926/243331131.html
          Israelis, is it enough for you to blow your cheeks?
          Everyone knows your potential at the regional level, but nobody considers you a global player. Do you think you are ready to go all in? Just weigh what is at stake for you and what is for Russia. Shoot down your arrogance.
          We do not need the downfall of your aircraft, I will say more, we still need a working relationship with a significant regional player.
          Therefore, you, first, will be comprehensively punished for your actions that led to the death of our servicemen. Secondly, you will meekly accept this and continue to cooperate further with the Russian Federation.
          No matter how good you may seem to yourself, but the RF is not your caliber.

          1. I trust the conclusions of the report compiled by the command of our Air Force, and I do not believe the conclusions of your generals. Therefore, I believe that Israel is in no way guilty of the destruction of your aircraft. But Israel’s accusations are either an attempt to hide the miscalculations of your generals, or some kind of political intrigue of the Russian establishment, which is not aimed at achieving interests in Russia or in the international arena.

          2. I believe that cooperation, more precisely, the coordination of interests and actions between Israel and Russia benefited both countries. Perhaps still will benefit in the future.

          3. The elimination of Iranian military installations near the borders of Israel is an essential issue for us, a matter of survival, not of principle or prestige. Therefore, we will continue to destroy the positions of Iran and its puppets (first of all, Hezbollah) that threaten us. If the Syrian air defenses prevent this, they will be destroyed too.

          4. Until now, of all the clashes without exception with the Soviet / Russian weapons in the Soviet / Iranian / Arab hands, Israel has emerged victorious. And, as a rule, crushing.

          5. For the current US administration, the opportunity to prove itself as an advocate of Israel against Russia is a win-win and convenient option, both in the run-up to congressional elections and to strengthen the international image.

          6. Thus, Russia has gained a lot from good relations with Israel and will lose a lot if it takes the course of escalation.

          7. Your veiled threats in response to the deaths of your soldiers killed by Syrians are unfair, ugly and ridiculous, and in general are more like not a position of a sane person, but a hysterics of introducing himself into a trans Gopnik waving his gun in front of a special commando armed with an automatic rifle. (C)
          Thank you. hi

          Point 6 just killed his logic :))) Jewish ...
        8. neri73-r
          neri73-r 26 September 2018 16: 46
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          . I trust the conclusions of the report compiled by the command of our Air Force, and I do not believe the conclusions of your generals. Therefore, I believe that Israel is in no way guilty of the death of your plane. And the accusations of Israel are either an attempt to hide the mistakes of your generals, or some political intrigue of the Russian establishment, not aimed at achieving interests within Russia or in the international arena.

          Unveil your cartoon! Why keep silent, so far only words are on your part! And your words, excuse me, NO faith! Like your generals! There will be a cartoon, then we’ll compare which cartoon is better and more evident !!! hi In the meantime, the reality is this - our words and cartoon, your only words! And the refusal of the cartoon suggests that you do not have the cartoon either, only the fake mounted! fellow We believe our! Therefore, as they say, only 21 minutes of your pilot listened to the MO.
        9. hohol95
          hohol95 26 September 2018 16: 49
          0
          If this is not your first time ignoring my questions, I will ask you one more (there will be no answer)!
          On January 28, 1970, a single MiG-21 flew over Haifa! Naturally, the next day your aces on the "Qurnassi" also flew over Damascus, Hama and several other cities of Syria! But the question is different - who was punished in the Israeli air defense for this blatant "puncture" of your systems for protecting the sky over the "Promised Land"?
        10. neri73-r
          neri73-r 26 September 2018 16: 52
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          4. Until now, of all the clashes without exception with the Soviet / Russian weapons in the Soviet / Iranian / Arab hands, Israel has emerged victorious. And, as a rule, crushing.

          Well, do not lie! Whoever fled with our weapons may yes, but with the Russians, then no! Let's start with the Khazar Kagonate, where is he ????? And God forbid you, neither the bomb nor the SGA will help! Due to your size we will not notice.
        11. faiver
          faiver 26 September 2018 18: 04
          +1
          3. The elimination of Iranian military installations near the borders of Israel is an essential question for us, a question of survival, and not of principle or prestige.
          - Latakia moved to the borders of Israel? did I miss something? hi
        12. Vanek
          Vanek 27 September 2018 03: 43
          +1
          Privalov.

          Do not you understand?

          usa from you on the other side of the planet and between you is the ocean. In the case of kipish, no one will subscribe for you.

          you are like a mosquito to them, on what you are sitting on.

          Quote: A. Privalov
          reminiscent not of the position of the sane person, but of the tantrum of introducing himself into a trance gopnik,


          You are the one who we are now stuck with, right?

          No one will definitely take you prisoner.

          Quote: A. Privalov
          Thank you


          YES PLEASE!!!! hi
    3. 046
      046 26 September 2018 15: 05
      +7
      we don’t strive for a quarrel, but to put the presumptuous in place is already a matter of honor
    4. saigon
      saigon 26 September 2018 15: 06
      0
      In the Middle East, it is of course and the great Omerik will help, well or not, how it will bring it.
      That's just the territory of the country of the mighty Air Force is very small for maneuver by these Air Force in the event of a serious collision.
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    6. barsuk
      barsuk 26 September 2018 15: 10
      +1
      And the Americans that the blood does not flow? Or do you think they will sacrifice themselves for your safety?
    7. ASG7
      ASG7 26 September 2018 15: 11
      +3
      Actually, the task was to level out anti-Semitic statements, and you provoke them on the contrary. It’s not yet time to wage political debate - there are too many emotions. Take your time, please.
    8. figwam
      figwam 26 September 2018 15: 11
      +9
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

      Well now it’s clear, all but the Jews are over. This is what impunity does to people.
    9. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 26 September 2018 15: 14
      0
      And who to strive for? It is necessary to lose another 20 people for the sake of someone's small-town interests? No, thanks!
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    11. kjhg
      kjhg 26 September 2018 15: 14
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

      No one is arguing with this, at least not yet.
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only the finished can seek a quarrel with Israel today

      You can quarrel in different ways, not necessarily directly. But the fact that your security will suffer is a settled issue. Today, one thing has finally become clear, Israel is a hostile country to us. Most, especially the military, had no illusions before, but the pro-Jewish lobby in the Russian leadership was too strong.
    12. ultra
      ultra 26 September 2018 15: 15
      +4
      [quote = A. Privalov] In short, only the finished one can strive for a quarrel with Israel today.
      This Israeli action has led to a crisis.
    13. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 26 September 2018 15: 17
      +6
      Halt, you are an intelligent person, at the same time you could be objective, and your veiled threats do not improve the climate on the forum.
    14. Belgrade
      Belgrade 26 September 2018 15: 18
      +2
      Comrade Stalin made a huge mistake in his time by supporting the formation of a terrorist state. Iran will fix it sooner or later 20-30 years, but it will be
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 26 September 2018 17: 53
        +1
        Quote: Belgrad
        Comrade Stalin once made a huge mistake,


        from this you must understand that you are smarter than Comrade Stalin.
        or maybe not all the same?
        1. Demon_is_ada
          Demon_is_ada 26 September 2018 21: 55
          +1
          Dmitry, on the issue of the creation by Israel of Stalin, I have conflicting thoughts, not feelings, but thoughts.
          Arguments against - the Lord deliberately dispersed you around the world, there are good reasons for this even now, but there will be more about them.
          For - you’re better there, but I’m fine with everyone here, this is my purely personal opinion, and this is due to the main argument against ...
          Well, now about the main thing ... the level of consciousness and experience does not allow Jews to make decisions on a large scale, since you are very emotional, kind of hot southern guys and girls, even in the comments you don’t have facts, but emotions, and mosaic ones related crying You will find adventures in your ass anytime and anywhere ... As evidence - the American Jewish lobby, the result of his reign is the collapse of America and in general this lifestyle in the near future ... In Russia, the same thing, media officials, etc. for the most part the result is not a very fun life for mom ... All this just shows the degree of readiness for decision-making in the geostrategic direction, the ability to think on a large scale ... As a result, one idiocy around the world ... Jehovah was right laughing I’m not saying that you are bad people, just every place has its own place ... If it’s interesting, I can figure out everything exactly what is happening, but this whole article will be ...
    15. Nychego
      Nychego 26 September 2018 15: 48
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

      On the strength of the Air Force there is always the strength of air defense.
      Quote: A. Privalov
      2. Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool (both in the domestic and international arena) that they will definitely be taken advantage of, give only a reason.

      Undoubtedly take advantage. AND?
      I’m definitely not going to worry about the loot of the Sechin-Vorotenbers and their friends, and we, ordinary normal Russians, have nothing to lose in general.
      In military terms: I am very interested in how your missiles and amers will demolish the "Syrian" S-300. An extremely useful experience in the use of these complexes in a combat situation.
    16. the most important
      the most important 26 September 2018 16: 24
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      -11
      Nevertheless, there are two factors that can sober up even the most crazy enemies of Israel, not to mention the pragmatists:
      1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.

      That is yes. But you decided to push to a country that is not with BV. Moreover, in this country there is a small political crisis due to pension reform, so a small victorious war, and even with the wrong hands, will be very useful.
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool (both in the domestic and international arenas) that they will certainly be used, give me just a reason.

      Well, just millions of volunteers will rush to die in the desert !! And even Russia will not fight, whether it is Syria, or under the flag of Syria. And this is a shame to the pseudo-great Israel, if it has to be protected from Syria .. The very formulation of the question that the United States will definitely stand up for us is in itself humiliating, it can be compared to the screams of a jackal from under the tail of a tiger in The Jungle Book.

      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

      The potential of Israel can be undermined even without war. You have no resources! You can fight no more than a month, If you force you to make a general mobilization without a single armament in three months, the Israeli economy will fall at times with all the ensuing consequences ...
      So straighten the pile, or else the sun has baked the crown of the head, you are our invincible ....
    17. Tersky
      Tersky 26 September 2018 16: 41
      +4
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

    18. Cavalryman
      Cavalryman 26 September 2018 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

      Then we all conceived your Jewish labels ordinary ..
      You have provoked Russia there for a long time, but this is your bloody provocation, this is the last straw .. Together with the CIA they worked out, as usual ..?
    19. Yura
      Yura 26 September 2018 18: 24
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

      Of course you know what a snob is, a servant has more aplomb than a duke. Was Russia leading the case to a quarrel? Was it not your prime minister who traveled to Moscow almost every week in order to get involved in the "common cause" and to do his own things from under the counter? You are gentlemen from Israel, demagogues and great experts about juggling. And even here, in this comment of yours, if not your desire to aggravate relations between Russia and the United States, then hide behind them, but how
      In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength.
      And the Air Force is far from everything. It surprises me that you seriously hope that the United States, in which case rush to rake the diarrhea, into which you can run into your self-confidence?
    20. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 26 September 2018 20: 50
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Nevertheless, there are two factors that can sober up even the most crazy enemies of Israel, not to mention the pragmatists:
      1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength. And those who want to check it again, will be convinced of the fallacy of their errors quickly and painfully.
      2. Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool (both in the domestic and international arena) that they will definitely be taken advantage of, give only a reason.

      In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...

      1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength. laughing It depends on how to fight and by what means.
      2. The defense of Israel from Russia ..... And Russia is going to attack Israel? This is something new.
      And how is Russia going to attack Israel ??? And when???
  5. Imper
    Imper 26 September 2018 14: 58
    +8
    Everyone has their own truth, Jews behave impudently and arrogantly, motivating this by ensuring their own security by their actions, Russia also cannot lose face, having let down the incident with IL on brakes, there will likely be further escalation, and who will benefit from this, let's see .
    1. 046
      046 26 September 2018 15: 14
      +4
      as they say, everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one and it is clearly not with the Jews
  6. MoJloT
    MoJloT 26 September 2018 15: 06
    +1
    The question is different, ours already stand with 400 with our calculations, if they stand next to 300 with our calculations, then in principle, nothing will change, but if the processes are controlled by the ATS, this is another matter!
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 26 September 2018 15: 15
      0
      With 300 transferred to the Syrian army. This is the whole point!
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 26 September 2018 15: 49
        +2
        With 300 transferred to the Syrian army. This is the whole point!
        You do not understand the flag on board the floor of the matter, who will give orders and who will sit at the control panel.
  7. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 26 September 2018 15: 14
    +3
    Yes, and Norkin, too, turned out to be either not entirely competent or too impulsive, because apart from being out of business, it’s all Syrians, he really didn’t say anything. The ceiling water is in a mortar, and he didn’t provide real evidence for his words. just to hiss at us, and spit the computer monitor out of spite.
    1. A good one
      A good one 26 September 2018 15: 38
      +1
      What was ordered, he said, but ours did not like it. He should have been to Norkin on NTV, and he would have heard a Jewish joke.
  8. Machete
    Machete 26 September 2018 15: 18
    +2
    Of course, the Jews are smart ... Well, or they think so, but to be honest, I don’t understand their cheers-patriotic splashes: we, like, will bomb all of them and the Russian air defense will do nothing to us .... And so on.
    Here, just, the Russian air defense has never shot at them yet.
    And in general, the Israeli Air Force has never come under normal fire with modern weapons in Syria. With all due respect to the S-200, they can no longer compete on equal terms with modern enemy modernized aircraft.
    And the S-300 and 400 aircraft did not work yet.
    So what's the scream?
  9. bald
    bald 26 September 2018 15: 18
    +1
    The point is - it doesn’t matter, one covered up there, and the rest no matter where - this is specifically a provocation !!! Well, it’s realized what trash it is. You can fix the tension a little - a little, they do not invite to the funeral - and not come weakly - yes, your piggy banks will most likely burst.
  10. Gumma
    Gumma 26 September 2018 15: 28
    +7
    I liked the phrase: "Today one thing has finally become clear, Israel is a hostile country to us." Can be categorically, but to the point said.
  11. flicker
    flicker 26 September 2018 15: 29
    +1
    Norkin laid out all our truth. In short, leaked the official version of Israel smile
  12. Detective
    Detective 26 September 2018 15: 43
    +1
    Quote: Nikolai Petrov
    Has Russia gone all-in, if kosher have been shaved off?

    Is it all in a bank ?! There’s nothing to talk about!
    Quote: kepmor
    for a long time the Turks fiddled with ???? ... a whole year ... and then "peace-friendship-chewing gum" ... and a nuclear power plant with a flow at our expense ... and S-400 on a silver platter ...

    Well, why aren't you telling the truth ?! The nuclear power plant, of course, is with Russian money, and property is Russian! And since 400 have we really given the Turks ?! This is why Americans are already turning inside out from anger!
    Quote: Vladimir 5
    Read the Russian media, there is often pro-Israeli position. and as such the provocation of the Israeli F-16s is not mentioned ... Even such versions that the Israeli F-16 tried to save the IL-20 are the talk of the power of the fifth Israeli column in Russia ...

    I don’t even know how to comment on this ... Comrade from Bulgaria - never, hear NEVER, read liberal newspapers before dinner!
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Nevertheless, there are two factors that can sober up even the most crazy enemies of Israel, not to mention the pragmatists:
    1. In the Middle East, the Israeli Air Force has no equal in strength. And those who want to check it again, will be convinced of the fallacy of their errors quickly and painfully.
    2. Even in the current United States, torn by internal contradictions, the protection of Israel from Russia is such a convenient political tool (both in the domestic and international arena) that they will definitely be taken advantage of, give only a reason.

    In short, only a goner can strive for a quarrel with Israel today ...
    Isn’t that a hysteria?!?!?! Mr. Privalov has already calculated everything, and even how much time he has time to reach the Canadian border!
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 26 September 2018 15: 45
    +2
    Still, they are not fools: at their Security Council, among others, one real decision was made "to all Israeli officials to stop commenting and giving interviews on this topic." For with those tendencies of irresponsible chatter and boasting, it is not clear from where the splashing arrogance of the gentry and ambition will not be left for us but to put things in order in this pigsty, which is now the efforts of the "world community" in the Middle East.
    All these "countries" artificially cut by the Entente are not a dogma. This also applies to KSA, Qatar and any other actors.
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 26 September 2018 16: 30
      -6
      Quote: faterdom
      we will not be left with a choice but to put things in order in this pigsty, which is now the efforts of the "world community" in the Middle East.
      All these "countries" artificially cut by the Entente are not a dogma. This also applies to KSA, Qatar and any other actors.


      Start from your yard. Place your order there.
      Well, then you can already bend the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

      There is no money, but you stay here, you all the best, good mood and health.
      D.A. Medvedev. ©
      1. A good one
        A good one 26 September 2018 17: 01
        +9
        This type of joke? My joy, we have no money all the time smile and what do you think is not expected to improve. But we are doing things and will do what is intended, you do not understand this. We are moving away to Moscow, and we’ll put an end to Berlin, we will gnaw with our teeth, and we will achieve our goal. smile As they say hello to parents hi .
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 26 September 2018 18: 04
          -3
          Quote: Not bad
          But we are doing things and will do what is intended, you do not understand this.

          not truly understand.
          as you look at the last, say 100-200 years, so Russia and then the USSR and now again Russia
          Every time when it comes to geopolitical showdowns, it gets into a ditch.
          then England fooled the Americans damned. then Masonic lodges strangle then Israel is plotting, then the ungrateful Arabs are throwing.
          some pathology.

          maybe something to fix in the conservatory?
          1. Russia
            Russia 26 September 2018 19: 22
            +2
            It would be interesting to count bruises and bumps on your body if you were met in the gateway and you started to crush a dozen well done. And we are fighting back; we, unlike you, have no one to wait for help from. What can I say, in childhood it’s probably heavier than a violin or anything in the hands
            did not hold, the boy’s word and his actions are not known to you, hence these judgments, God has deprived you of the strength of the spirit, consumers on this earth, you probably have achieved what you have achieved. Watch and be surprised further. hi
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 26 September 2018 20: 33
              -1
              Quote: Rusland
              What can I say, in childhood it’s probably heavier than a violin or anything in the hands
              they didn’t keep it, the boy’s word and his actions are not known to you, hence these judgments, God has deprived you of spiritual strength,

              He grew up in the courtyard, did not play the violin (although grandfather wanted to), he sometimes got luli, sometimes he gave.
              I'm not a "kid" but I try to never throw my word to the wind, my father taught me that way.
              about the strength of mind, there is little of it. in the army I pulled the trigger a couple of times, I feed and educate my children.
              for his family and the people are ready to fight if necessary.
              I have the honor.
      2. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 26 September 2018 20: 57
        +2
        Quote: brigadir
        Quote: faterdom
        we will not be left with a choice but to put things in order in this pigsty, which is now the efforts of the "world community" in the Middle East.
        All these "countries" artificially cut by the Entente are not a dogma. This also applies to KSA, Qatar and any other actors.


        Start from your yard. Place your order there.
        Well, then you can already bend the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

        There is no money, but you stay here, you all the best, good mood and health.
        D.A. Medvedev. ©

        Yeah, like that one will win a lot of money ... You haven’t gone far from pn-n-dos in your reasoning.
  14. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 26 September 2018 16: 25
    -2
    Sands again carries a blizzard and refutes the refusal.
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 26 September 2018 16: 29
      -1
      Why a blizzard? This is like a statement of some kind of media and not a fact that is true. And even if it’s true, then perhaps they don’t want to humiliate in public.
  15. Cavalryman
    Cavalryman 26 September 2018 16: 42
    +1
    Russia refused to visit Liberman and Netanyahu after the tragedy with IL-20

    Well, the Kremlin finally realized what kind of crap they were .. And how they would shit Russia-Syria, they immediately flee to Moscow and raise all their ties, etc. Drive them in the neck and check with whom they communicate in Moscow ...
    And the S-300 urgently needs to be delivered to Syria and especially Iran (preferably with our calculations) Ours will not be missed unambiguously .. soldier
  16. Dart
    Dart 26 September 2018 16: 47
    +1
    History does not teach anything. When a Sim begins to dig in, obstruction always happens ... for all ages. And this is no exception))
  17. Rocj
    Rocj 26 September 2018 17: 04
    0
    Peskov: Russia did not refuse Israel in negotiations
    Russian Presidential Press and Information Office Dmitry Peskov said the facts about the Kremlin’s refusal to accept Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netagiyahu and Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman are false.

    Russia refused to visit Liberman and Netanyahu after the tragedy with IL-20
    All nonsense!
  18. Rocj
    Rocj 26 September 2018 17: 11
    +2
    Quote: Machete
    Well, or they think so, but to be honest, I don’t understand their cheers-patriotic splashes: we, like, will bomb all of them anyway and Russian air defense will do nothing to us ...

    Why are you carrying a blizzard and lead people astray ?? There were no such statements! They say they will protect the interests of their country.
    “We are not looking for adventure or meddling in the internal affairs of Syria. But we warned that we would not allow Syria to be turned into an anti-Israeli outpost of Iran. Syria cannot turn into an armory of Iran and its transshipment base of weapons for Hezbollah, Israeli Defense Minister Lieberman.
  19. Antidote
    Antidote 26 September 2018 18: 16
    0
    Or the newspaper pushes, or one of two. Initially, it seems like Israel proposed sending Norkin to Moscow, there was no talk about Bibi.
  20. K-50
    K-50 26 September 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Another Jewish lie, tryndezh, and further on. request
  21. dolfi1
    dolfi1 26 September 2018 19: 01
    0
    Quote: Antidote
    Or the newspaper pushes, or one of two. Initially, it seems like Israel proposed sending Norkin to Moscow, there was no talk about Bibi.

    This newspaper is "yellow", in Israel it is called "Bavarian", and co-owner Nevzlin. To quote her is considered strange, to put it mildly, in general in Israel all media are practically left-wing. Therefore, you need to know where to get more or less objective information. Left-liberal and ukrooriented media (in Russian) constantly distort information.
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    1. Russia
      Russia 26 September 2018 19: 27
      +1
      I still don’t understand. Is it funny or bitter to you? Or put your nose into our affairs is your direct responsibility? hi
      1. K-50
        K-50 26 September 2018 19: 32
        0
        Quote: Rusland
        I still don’t understand. Is it funny or bitter to you?

        So the oil company was not handed over to them, and there were screams in this way. yes lol
  23. Catfish
    Catfish 26 September 2018 22: 03
    0
    Quote: Rocj

    “We are not looking for adventure or meddling in the internal affairs of Syria. But we warned that we would not allow Syria to be turned into an anti-Israeli outpost of Iran. Syria cannot turn into an armory of Iran and its transshipment base of weapons for Hezbollah, Israeli Defense Minister Lieberman.


    And what if someone wants not to allow Syria to be turned into an anti-Iranian outpost of the United States? Tady how to be? And whose "armory" and "transshipment base" is the State of Israel? hi
  24. Rocj
    Rocj 27 September 2018 00: 03
    -2
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Quote: Rocj

    “We are not looking for adventure or meddling in the internal affairs of Syria. But we warned that we would not allow Syria to be turned into an anti-Israeli outpost of Iran. Syria cannot turn into an armory of Iran and its transshipment base of weapons for Hezbollah, Israeli Defense Minister Lieberman.


    And what if someone wants not to allow Syria to be turned into an anti-Iranian outpost of the United States? Tady how to be? And whose "armory" and "transshipment base" is the State of Israel? hi

    Are you laughing what anti Iranian outpost of the United States in Syria ?? American bases are in Iraq at the junction of borders with Iran. you have confused rams. and Israel was not once threatened with physical destruction, Iran. Iran is constantly threatening to destroy Israel. Iran supplies Hizbale’s weapons and missiles to Lebanon, and from there to Gaza for Hamas. These two groups, many countries in the world are considered terrorist, which are constantly at war with Israel. Israel is destroying warehouses with weapons from Iran on Syrian soil. When there were no Iranian bases with weapons, Israel did not bomb objects in Syria, except for one or two when they wanted to build a nuclear reactor with the help of the village of Korea. Israel’s border with Syria was the calmest - the calmest for many decades. So tovarisch do not put a shadow on the wattle fence.
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  26. Catfish
    Catfish 27 September 2018 14: 55
    +1
    Quote: Rocj
    from Iran. When there were no Iranian weapons bases, Israel did not bomb facilities in Syria


    Yeah, you better name at least one country in this region that Israel did not bomb. And yes, I really laugh at your comment, comrade. laughing
    And as for "beaming the ramtsov" - it's more likely to you, especially after the last incident, with our IL - 20. negative
  27. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 September 2018 01: 50
    0
    Haaretz newspaper claims

    ... let the Jews read it, in Israel fakes also print ... bully
  28. Whisper
    Whisper 28 September 2018 09: 20
    0
    It seems to me that we should have been preparing for a long time to be responsible for the destruction of the S-300 in Syria. Otherwise, they will destroy it, our military will die again, and the leadership will again start "well, everything ... now we will put it there exactly from 400".
    This must not be allowed! What if the Jews are crazy? I think so. And in general, this is the correct behavior! We would act like that!
  29. Victorio
    Victorio 28 September 2018 10: 33
    0
    Given the western pressure on Russia, Israel can go to exacerbate