Swedes are looking for a new Poltava

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Our time was marked by an incredible regress or an archaization of world consciousness. Out of non-existence, the seemingly forever departed images of the Middle Ages arise and take on reality, offenses and scores of five centuries old are actualized, the long-forgotten enmity wakes up.

The slogans of the Cathedral of Claremont are heard, the Pope in the Baltic lands again speaks of the "mission in the East", the descendants of the Franks who came from weapons in the hands of the Middle East, they decorate their shoulders with the crosses of the Templars, and in Europe there are again calls for "drang nah Osten", and a religious war begins.





Even in “neutral” Sweden, tormented by migrants and “gender experiments”, the militant rhetoric of the times of Charles XII begins to sound. Here they are again going to “restrain Russia” and protect “Scandinavia and the EU countries” from “aggressive encroachments from the East”.

Swedes are looking for a new Poltava


The authoritative Swedish publication Svenska Dagbladet posted a speech by the Swedish Minister of War, Peter Hultqvist, who said that our country “simply forces” Sweden to move closer to NATO.

In this material, the translation of which is posted on the “InoSMI”, the minister is trying to justify the participation of supposedly neutral Sweden in the North Atlantic muscle game at the north-western borders of Russia.



Hultqvist said that in October and November, the Swedish Armed Forces will take part in large-scale NATO military exercises, “The United Trident,” most of which will be held mainly in Norway. They will involve about 40 thousands of bayonets, 10 thousands of vehicles, 130 airplanes and 70 ships.

The legend of the exercises involves an armed conflict in the “neighboring territories”, as a result of which the northern regions of Norway are threatened. Sweden participates with 2,5 by thousands of soldiers, eight Gripen fighters and two warships.



The fact that the alleged exercises are directed against our country is obvious. And the Swedish minister is trying to explain to the public of his country, for which a significant part of the national budget is being spent and the neutrality of the country is called into question.

Frankly speaking, it turns out he is not very. “The Russian aggression against Georgia in 2008, the annexation of Crimea in 2014, and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine is a reality that undermines the European security system,” writes Hultquist. Even leaving aside the false and incorrect interpretation of these events, made by the Minister of War, we note that they in no way could threaten a neutral country located on the other side of the continent.

And neutral status, as it were, does not imply the country's participation in the European or North Atlantic "security systems."



But Hultqvist interprets this quite differently, believing that his country can well afford “confirmation of solidarity: Sweden will not stand aside if another EU country or Scandinavian country turns out to be a victim of a catastrophe or hostile attack. Sweden is involved in maneuvers in partnership with NATO, and this is an important part of the country's strategic plan for deepening cooperation with other countries and organizations in our region. ”



It is noteworthy that he declares that the buildup of military efforts by NATO countries and "sympathizers", and their large-scale exercises against Russia, contribute to increasing stability in Europe. At the same time, the strengthening of our country's defense capability and the exercises it is conducting (the minister mentioned East-2018, which took place in the Far East), are a threat to European security.

The causal connection between the two events, he flatly refuses to see.

It is also interesting that, with amazing "naivety", he asserts: "Our participation is carried out within the framework of the policy of non-alignment with any military alliances."



By the way, quite recently, in Stockholm, they seriously discussed the possibility of renouncing neutral status and joining NATO. However, after Trump began the campaign to knock out additional funds from the allies in the North Atlantic bloc, Swedish enthusiasm was significantly reduced. And in the end it was decided to remain neutral, limiting itself to bilateral treaties on military-technical cooperation with NATO countries. Such a way Stockholm considered more budget. But, as we see, not only actively participates in NATO events, but also declares its readiness to protect the Scandinavian and European states.

That is, the only obstacle for Sweden to join NATO is only the reluctance of Stockholm to increase the already considerable military budget, and the country's neutrality has long been turned into a fiction.

When he was a presidential candidate in Russia, Pavel Grudinin liked to speculate about the reasons for the prosperity of Sweden, setting Russia's approach as an example. In his opinion, the reason was the rejection of burdensome military expenses. However, the director and owner of the Lenin State Farm was mistaken, and the military spending of the kingdom was always significant. Sweden had and has a sizeable for a small, and even neutral country, a modern, well-armed and trained army. The Swedes produce modern, including high-tech weapons, and occupy their segment in the global arms market. The Swedish military actively and willingly participated in various international missions, gaining combat experience.



Specialists in this Scandinavian country indicate that speculations about imaginary threats were intensively used by Swedish leaders in the domestic political struggle throughout the twentieth century.

But this is clearly an insufficient explanation for such a large-scale militarization of the country and its participation in aggressive exertions that effectively cancel neutrality and turn it into a legitimate goal.

The Minister of War does not hide that all Swedish military preparations and the upcoming “One Trident” exercises are directed against our country. In Sweden today it is often said that Russia is their “historical enemy". Indeed, history knows 18 Russian-Swedish wars, which lasted for six centuries, from the XNUMXth to the XNUMXth centuries.

However, they serve as an unimportant confirmation of the “Russian threat”, since practically all of them were initiated by the Swedes and took place on Russian lands or on the territory of Russian vassals. That is, in the absolute majority of cases, the Swedes acted as the aggressors.



And only the last Russian-Swedish war of the 1809 of the year (shortly after which the neutrality of Sweden was proclaimed) showed that Russia had become so strong that the Swedes had no chance of defeating it.

For two hundred years in Russia, they forgot to think about the existence of such a “historical enemy”, and Sweden is associated by the majority of Russians with “Ikea”, the heroes of Astrid Lindgred (famous “Soyuzmultfilm”), SAAB, a Swedish table and various deviations like the “Swedish family”.

But, as we see, the Swedish hostility to us has not gone away. Like the dream of revenge, even if in alliance with more powerful countries. Moreover, these dreams are periodically realized in concrete steps that are not at all limited by “neutrality”.



Thus, during the Soviet-Finnish “winter war”, when there was a very distinct prospect of joining it on the side of the Finns in England and France, Stockholm sent the 12-thousandth “volunteer” corps ”from the Swedish army to help Mannerheim.

At the same time, Sweden argued that it was not a party to the conflict and continued to maintain neutrality, although the Swedish "volunteers" did not even consider it necessary to dress in Finnish uniforms, while remaining in their national uniform. Sweden also provided significant cash loans to Finland, and shipped large quantities of weapons.



However, the hopes of Stockholm were not justified: the British and French did not intervene, and soon they did not even care for the Finns, who were forced to sign a peace treaty on Soviet terms.



The Swedes did not stand aside during the Great Patriotic War. Besides the fact that the “neutrals” provided the Nazis with strategic raw materials, on the eve of the German attack on the USSR, Sweden provided the Wehrmacht with railways for transportation and rolling stock for the transfer of the German 163rd Infantry Division, along with howitzers, tanks, anti-aircraft guns and ammunition from Norway to Finland, to the Soviet border. Throughout the war, Stockholm provided the Nazis with the possibility of the transit use of their territory. From September 1940 to August 1943, more than two million Nazi soldiers were transported.

In the Waffen SS units on the Eastern Front, about 12 of thousands of Swedish soldiers fought, many of them involved in war crimes.



Today, when the combined forces of the West are once again preparing a war against our country, Sweden does not want to stand aside and is eager to take the most active part in this preparation.



The war hysteria that swept over Sweden certainly has some practical significance: an increase in military orders, the activation of the national military industrial complex, and so on. However, as the experience of Germany shows, economic cooperation with Russia brings much more benefits. Moreover, Sweden would not have had to risk losing its neutral status and turning it into a legitimate target for the Russian Iskanders, who, as Hultqvist quite rightly noted, “cover” the kingdom’s territory without difficulty.

A return to the time of Charles XII does not promise any benefits to Sweden: the causes of this regression lie in the region of the irrational.

Peculiarities of “neutrality” during the Soviet-Finnish and World War II got Sweden off their hands. But this is unlikely to happen a third time.
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  1. +2
    26 September 2018 14: 07
    If anything, it will be possible for the Swedes to throw a bouquet with YABCh.
    1. +4
      26 September 2018 14: 38
      Return to the times of Charles XII no benefits Sweden

      One charge is enough Carl! One!
      1. +1
        26 September 2018 21: 26
        Next door, a couple, do not regret warming ourselves.
  2. +19
    26 September 2018 14: 14
    The worst mistake of the leadership of the USSR is the tales of the powerful anti-Hitler coalition in Europe. How many people told us about French, Italian, Romanian, Czech partisans .... THERE WAS NO opposition to Hitler in Europe! Suffice it to compare the number of French "resistance" with 1.5 million French in the Wehrmacht and SS. And now this foam is drumming into the whole world the thesis: "Stalin and Hitler are one and the same."
    1. +3
      26 September 2018 14: 58
      The opposition was of course! The bravest spit, not in the plates of restaurant dishes of German officers, no, against the wind towards the Nazis from around the corner!
      Actually, with weapons in their hands they fought 0,00 how many thousandths of a percent of the population of geyrops are .... and even that. prisoners of war who fled from fascist captivity were added here.
      In short, everything is very "sour", for the sake of an idea .... the truth was hidden to please the political conjuncture!
    2. +1
      26 September 2018 15: 37
      Quote: Serge Gorely
      The most terrible mistake of the leadership of the USSR is the tales of a powerful anti-Hitler coalition in Europe.

      Don't overdo it on the "terrible mistake".
      Naturally, when the USSR began to establish political and economic ties with the capitalist countries of Europe, the issues of participation of these countries on the side of Nazi Germany were relegated to the background - the country needed to be restored, and not to find out at the negotiations what everyone knew perfectly well "about the powerful anti-Hitler coalition in Europe ".
      But as for the Soviet school, there (in the textbooks), as in the Soviet filmography, not a word was said about any powerful anti-Hitler coalition. But everyone knew perfectly well about the Finnish occupation of Karelia and the participation of Finnish, Spanish, Italian troops in the blockade of Leningrad, and about the Swedish and Swiss "neutralities", and about the Romanian, Hungarian, Slovak, Dutch, Danish, French and other large and small units of the majority European countries that participated in the Second World War against the USSR.
      Therefore, all these "fairy tales" were mainly designed specifically for the population of Europe itself, so that they believe in their "contribution" to the fight against fascism. From the same opera, the inclusion of France in the anti-Hitler coalition, following the end of the war, to dilute the Anglo-Saxon duet, despite the fact that even the most careless schoolboy knew what kind of coalition France actually was.
    3. +1
      26 September 2018 15: 45
      How many were told about the French, Italian, Romanian, Czech partisans .... THERE WERE NO RESISTANCE TO HITLER IN EUROPE!


      Yeah. Of course, you have not heard anything about the Yugoslav partisans and have not seen any mention of them. However, already in the middle of 1943, the number of Yugoslav partisans was more than 250 thousand people, which the Germans "for some reason" did not like very much.
      1. 0
        26 September 2018 23: 28
        The Orthodox brothers are also Orthodox, this is a fact. They fought .... in the country with FIG knows how many, millions of people, 250 thousand partisans ... okay, but it’s still right to assume that the geyropa-Reich worked very hard against us. And the point!
        1. +1
          27 September 2018 15: 44
          Quote: rocket757
          The Orthodox brothers are also Orthodox, this is a fact. They fought .... in the country with FIG knows how many, millions of people, 250 thousand partisans ... okay, but it’s still right to assume that the geyropa-Reich worked very hard against us. And the point!


          In Yugoslavia, about 15 million people lived before WWII. Table 1:

          http://geography.su/demogr/item/f00/s01/e0001452/index.shtml

          The extent of the partisan movement in Yugolsavia during WWII was reported in sufficient detail in Soviet literature.

          https://w.histrf.ru/articles/article/show/narodno_osvoboditielnaia_voina_v_iugoslavii_1941_1945
          1. +1
            27 September 2018 16: 09
            I read, more than once or twice .... no questions, bros did not sell their souls, their lives to the Nazis!
            The only question is, for the rest of the geyropa .... about those to whom memory has completely disappeared.
            1. 0
              28 September 2018 16: 20
              Quote: rocket757
              I read, more than once or twice .... no questions, bros did not sell their souls, their lives to the Nazis!
              The only question is, for the rest of the geyropa .... about those to whom memory has completely disappeared.


              In almost the rest of Europe, in few places was the same mountainous terrain with large forests where you could hide from the Germans and where the Germans had big problems when fighting the partisans in Yugoslavia or Ukraine and Belarus, because of which the partisan movement was initially complicated and limited underground members who did not enter into open confrontation with the Germans.
              1. 0
                28 September 2018 20: 10
                Yes, yes ... I wanted to eat and live! Not their war and all.
                For me, the question is CLOSED after I read the archives and memoirs of our prisoners of war! I overstepped through this rot and I DO NOT reproach ANYONE for that, but DO NOT REPLACE HERO'S RELEASER, I immediately write out painfully and specifically.
      2. 0
        1 October 2018 20: 50
        There were partisans, no doubt, but ...
        There were also volunteer units of almost all European countries that fought on the side of the Fritz. French shipyards repair German submarines, and note not for fear, but for quite decent bonuses! The Czechs repaired and created tanks for the Reich. Generally easy to draw parallels! That Napoleon’s international army and it doesn’t matter under what sauce they served it, that the European hodgepodge, led by Hitler, has one goal different. It seems to me again your sclerosis has happened. We’ll have to treat for the first time angry
        1. -1
          1 October 2018 21: 58
          Czechs Germans provided half of all ammunition. For good Czechs have done so much evil to us that it is not a sin to officially recall him.
      3. 0
        5 October 2018 09: 03
        More precisely, the partisans were mainly Serbs. Broz Tito is a Croatian. Croats Catholics and their Pandurs faithfully served Austria since the 18th century. Headed by von Trenk.
        And the Croatian Ustash, headed by Ante Pavelic, "became famous" for their sadistic cruelty fighting on the side of the Germans.
    4. +1
      26 September 2018 17: 22
      Quote: Serge Gorely
      tales of a powerful anti-Hitler coalition in Europe.


      I agree. We were then attacked not by Germany, but by NATO and the European Union. All Europe went to Eurasia to the Heartland with the slogans Drang nah osten

      Geopolitics is an exact science. Nothing has changed in 2 thousand years. Only block and country names
      Attila led the ancestors of the Russians, the Alans, and the steppes of the nomads in the fight against the aggression of Rome, Nevsky with the same steppes beat the dogs of the knights, 1612, 1812, etc. always Europe against Eurasia
  3. +4
    26 September 2018 14: 20
    Drangnahosten say? And why not a dying Europe with "multiculturalism" where mosques are being built everywhere, including in Sweden, and the number of rapes committed by "migrants" has gone off scale, not to arrange at home for its own aggressive occupants from all kinds of Iraqi, for a start, a suitcase, a border with mass beating schizophrenia with a supposedly evil Russia? In Germany about 24% are no longer ETHNIC GERMANS. marriage and the birth of children - the Danunah will strangle the state, the wife of emancipé will leave you without money and pants and will have a dog. In Scandinavia there is a similar kryptonism against its own population. Another swindle. At the head of all countries are racist neo-Trotskyists who stupidly want the death of the white race and replace it with a more manageable mixed manure of incomprehensible pedigree
    1. 0
      26 September 2018 15: 12
      Everyone wants to shift their problems to Russia. Only there is no tyma. Wishlist fell off.
    2. 0
      26 September 2018 16: 38
      Why do we need a European white race? If she is so weak?
      1. +1
        28 September 2018 01: 38
        Exactly, I wouldn’t put so much emphasis on color.
        It's not about color, it's about pragmatism, perseverance, hard work. Now the most pragmatic people in the world are the Chinese. They pressed on migrants (there were also attempts by "refugees" to enter) and stubbornly bend Muslims and all other believers in various foreign religions of the "5th column" (their religions are less pressured in China).
    3. +2
      28 September 2018 01: 32
      I agree about Sweden, Scandinavia and Europe.
      But!
      We have the same thing, only more covertly: the GTA gang of Islamists was simply called a gang "with selfish motives" (although they did not take anything from the killed), their relatives are already in the Russian Federation, many have already received citizenship. Do not apologize for their inhumans nefig.
      When the Uzbek nanny girl in Moscow cut off her head, many television channels tried to hide this event.
      The murders of migrant workers with a knife right on the streets in honor of ISIS are often hidden for a year or more (only then they write about the court).
      Putin himself said that he is against the visa system with Central Asia. He will suppress any parties (DPNI, trade unions, nationalists) that raise this issue - since the oligarchs need cheap slaves from Central Asia. Nobody should occupy the patriotic "field" - only Putin is there.
      And in the Saratov region for a long time (since 2005) villages have been inhabited, land is being given out to Kurds and Dungans (Chinese Muslims) from Kyrgyzstan: https://youtu.be/srDUk_MOhzg "In Privolnoye MO, the number of Dungans exceeded 61%."
      Riot police are afraid to disperse the Wahhabis in front of the embanking Burma embassy: https://varlamov.ru/2541571.html
      Shevchenko used to be a hidden Islamist https://flb.ru/1/2484.html, and Heydar Dzhemal disguised himself slightly as an anti-Americanist (but got caught when he incited the Tatars in Crimea to incite them).
      The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is already openly taking Islamists to its party: https://lenta.ru/articles/2015/06/01/tatars/
      Well, about Kadyrov and his flirting with the Wahhabis from Saudi Arabia, I simply am silent.
      We are following the path of Sweden with a lag of 10-15 years.
      This is me as a person who lived and fluent in Swedish speaks 3 of the year in Sweden.
      I see parallels and coincidences.
      What is the legal loophole and support of the "refugees" in their penetration into Europe and Sweden? In the UN article on refugees: the Convention relating to the Status of Refugees (UN - July 28, 1951) and the 1967 Protocol - where they are given more rights than the citizens of the country to which they choose to "flee." I tried to put forward a proposal at the ROI to denounce this UN Convention by the Russian Federation, which was foolishly adopted in the Russian Federation in the 90s (after all, this article is still not implemented in the Russian Federation - refugees are not accepted).
      Do you know what they answered in ROI? Here:
      "The public initiative is contrary to the generally recognized principles and norms of international law, including in the field of rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of citizens, and in accordance with subparagraph" a "of paragraph 13 of the Rules for the consideration of public initiatives," Here are the bastards: "rights, freedoms and legitimate interests citizens "!! - I'm not talking about citizens of the Russian Federation, but about refugees, I wrote !!! They are not citizens of the Russian Federation!
      Approximately the same responded to the proposal "On the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty against criminals who are not citizens of the Russian Federation" - this could frighten the future "GTA gangs".
      "According to the Decision of the K. Court of the Russian Federation of November 19, 2009 No. 1344-О-R, a constitutional and legal regime has developed in Russia, within which, taking into account the international legal trend and the obligations undertaken by the Russian Federation, an irreversible process is taking place. to abolish the death penalty, "Taking into account the" commitments undertaken "!! Who told them to take such obligations ??
      The authorities give a shit about us, but do not give a shit about how she looks in the eyes of "enlightened Europe."
      1. -1
        29 September 2018 10: 34
        Good post, Paul. Useful.
        Thank you!
        good
  4. +4
    26 September 2018 14: 27
    Swedes are looking for a new Poltava

    You know, I lived most of my life at a time when in the Swedes they saw only rivals in hockey tournaments. I do not see much evil in them. I even like these relatively calm northern neighbors. Therefore, I’m more interested not when the Swedes will find a new Poltava, because the new Peter I is so far visible on the horizon, but when the overseas neighbors will get at least a little Pearl Harbor ...
    1. +1
      26 September 2018 15: 00
      This is of course crazy games politicians !!! But the jumpers in the dill, once the identity, only caused laughter!
  5. -2
    26 September 2018 14: 34
    Hello, I was driving a Cowboy on my Arbat. And the times when we clung together - and now it’s so interesting about how there was someone in the subway at 10 Civil Defense, I can say a lot about the concerts in the Bronetansky Palace of Culture - I was there.
    The cowboy was called for singing and talking with their party. We are different. Rockabiles, for example, perceived fagots, I did not understand and I will not understand this
    So here about what - all of us, an infection, are different. The goal when one is to turn the mountains.
    1. 0
      26 September 2018 17: 24
      Anyone who put a minus - can you explain why?
      1. 0
        26 September 2018 22: 09
        Fuck you!
        - The military. Can you tell me where you have DK here?
        - And where are some hairs now? Tude
        ----
        I can also remember the rams ... They were waiting for us at the exit. after the second concert. Not the cops. the cops stood at 50 meters, near Lenin) Lyuber immediately. how did we go out ...
        Then the cops turned on. But those who got to the metro, there were "quiet, quiet"
  6. +3
    26 September 2018 14: 48
    And what will the "neutral" answer to at least one question: Where did the demoniac take nickel for the needs of the Wehrmacht throughout the war?
  7. +1
    26 September 2018 14: 51
    The Swedes are looking for Poltava, and pen.dos, small shaves, pšeki and labuses are looking for Stalingrad
  8. +1
    26 September 2018 14: 52
    As they say: History teaches us that it does not teach anything!
    The Swedes are organizing such a "poltava" for themselves, so that later it will be possible to read about Sweden only in textbooks. Yes lol
    1. +1
      26 September 2018 15: 26
      In the textbooks that we print.
  9. 0
    26 September 2018 15: 56
    Sweden is not torn to Poltava, and in the event of a military conflict against Russia, it will immediately join the NATO bloc .... this is not even a guess. They will attack all at once, including the USA .... therefore the battle will be tough and not long ... then maybe the strategic nuclear forces will speak ....
  10. +1
    26 September 2018 16: 57
    Something I see, our capitalist government has quarreled us with almost all capitalist countries. Under the "ineffective Scoop" we had allies and friends. The Warsaw Pact took part in the Hungarian events, the GDR army (not to mention the Stasi) would 100% support us in case of aggression. A separate question about the Poles. They, like the Yugs, were hooked on loans that, given the economy of those years, they could not pay. The residence began. In general, thanks to Ogonyok with Korotich hanging the good Samaritan, i.e. we will be overwhelmed with the permission of the Leninist Politburo.
    What are the capitalists! Our blood Ukrainians already want to fight with us. Something twists dad, the next headache. Is there too much against us? Iskander and Caliber won't be enough here. It is time to place nuclear bombs along the borders of the Russian Federation and on the US shelf. It is possible to blow up one "uncharacteristically" and express regret, and the Ukrainians made Hailey like. They are violent, they will believe us. It's a joke, but things are bad. 1945 everyone in the West has already forgotten, they want to repeat. Our government spreads rot on the people. Pensions, salaries, medicine, etc. The people are dying, the birth rate is falling. I no longer watch the first channel, I look out the window. Like the akyn that I see and sing about.
    Now on to the case. Our emperor to the Swedes, his kingdom of heaven
    taught a good lesson. Peter robbed Finland of them.
    Finland before and after the war was ruled by the ten richest Swedish families. The same K.G. Mannerheim is one of these. But the Finns (Swedes) under R.I. life was very good. The martyr Nikolai 2 spoiled everything. He began to restrict in his native language, well, like Ukrainians with LDNR and other nonsense. Finnish people began to discontent. And who will like it? After October 17th, grandfather Lenin gave the Finnish independence. Like ebn hohlam. There began a civil war, the Red Finns against the whites. For some reason, the Soviet government did not intercede for the Reds, they lost the war and paid thousands of lives. Naturally, it was a revenge of the good Swedes. Money plus weapons.
    I’m writing, and in my head there’s a subconscious parallel with today’s.
    But the Soviet government took into account the mistakes of the past and wanted to return back the part of the Vyborg province, which had become the Vyborg lianya donated by Emperor Alexander the First, back. They gave us lan because after Finland was part of RI, and once left, return the land back.
    Instead, they offered more territory to this liang, asked for a rental, but the Finns (Swedes) did not and that was it. Vyborg is ours. History as possible. How are we our Crimea and nothing else.
    War. As always, we have one place, but we won. Stalin did not begin to finish off Mannerheim (apparently the Swedes A. Kollantai promised something to our ambassador in a "neutral" country.
    Therefore, there is nothing strange in the revenge of the Swedes; they both ruled in Finland and they rule.
    Naturally, Sweden supplied weapons to the Finns. AB Bofors - anti-aircraft guns, anti-tank guns, shells for them, etc.
    About the volunteers. There were many from the USA and Canada - ethnic Finns.
    1. -2
      26 September 2018 23: 16
      Something I see, our capitalist government has quarreled us with almost all capitalist countries. Under the "ineffective Scoop" we had allies and friends. The Warsaw Pact took part in the Hungarian events, the GDR army (not to mention the Stasi) would support us 100% in case of aggression
      .
      With such a policy - the first allies to distribute (Enough to feed Ukraine, Belarus / Armenia, etc.) and the drain of popular anger primarily on them.
      And the absence of friends (some partners) and allies, on the contrary, is better for the authorities - this is a typical "besieged fortress" all against us, we rally and we will not contradict domestic politics, because you see the enemy on the doorstep.
      We also have all this under a well-known theme.
      Well done Swedes, to their level we grow and grow, despite their socialism and feminism.
      1. -1
        28 September 2018 12: 26
        Not only Swedes. And the Finns? I live on the border, a lot of their TV channels. After our TV with steel scabee, pastoral. No bickering with everyone, a quiet life ...
  11. +3
    26 September 2018 17: 35
    Quote: NF68
    How many were told about the French, Italian, Romanian, Czech partisans .... THERE WERE NO RESISTANCE TO HITLER IN EUROPE!


    Yeah. Of course, you have not heard anything about the Yugoslav partisans and have not seen any mention of them. However, already in the middle of 1943, the number of Yugoslav partisans was more than 250 thousand people, which the Germans "for some reason" did not like very much.

    and can you still remember someone?) that's just it ...
  12. 0
    26 September 2018 21: 31
    And what is the problem now to say that in fact 1940-1945 Europe was a pro-fascist (pro-Nazi and ours will not understand) and slavishly worked against Russia.
  13. -3
    27 September 2018 01: 39
    Comment by native Swede on the article:
    Haha think we Swedes have a tendency to overreact
    Think there is a lot of truth in it.
    Bet there is a good dose of miss characterization from both ends really.
    But things are getting better and better I think.
  14. 0
    27 September 2018 07: 31
    For all such bad perturbations, it is simply necessary not to prolong START and to increase the number of carriers and warheads by the number of targets for those countries that are beginning to think about new "missions in the East" and "Drach Nacht Ostenach". Enough to calculate the parity with the United States alone, we must compare it with the whole of NATO and their limotrophs.
    1. -1
      27 September 2018 11: 39
      Like Ukrainians with tanks near the demarcation line: no-no-no, what are you, our heavy equipment is allotted! And these tanks just control something there.
      So here, to say that START3 refers to the United States, and 20000 tactical charges ready for immediate launch is already against the EU (well, or the Swedish threat - that’s even better) and do not belong to CBH3.
  15. 0
    27 September 2018 13: 18
    The opposite is true: Swedish banks have already recaptured Kurland, Livonia, Finland. Mazepovtsy strengthened in Ukraine.
  16. 0
    28 September 2018 13: 26
    This is a mixture of fantasy with reminiscences. And in another place he said - Europeans have no desire to give money for weapons. Well, just nothing. There is not a small army in Europe that can withstand the Russians.

    There are only a few close allies of the Americans who play to their tune and sell the myth of "Russian aggression". The NATO threat hysteria is the same as the Russian threat hysteria.
    1. -2
      28 September 2018 16: 03
      NATO has an army several times stronger than ours, and the mobilization potential is 10 times.
      1. +1
        28 September 2018 16: 34
        Agam, sung in the German army, there were a dozen and a half combat-ready tanks, the same number of aircraft, and mobilization potential - do not look at him. NATO is not a homogeneous state of thirty or how many goals are there that are absolutely violet about the Baltic states or Poland. Fighting is only in the US troops in Europe and all. Others are woeful warriors .... (unfortunately, my own power must be included here). Only the Turks have a more or less army, but everybody can kick the Turks, so only the Americans remain - well, there is no potential to attack Russia and that’s it. I think that the Russian government understands this, but the hysteria of the threat is beneficial to everyone - both in NATO and in Russia. It is necessary to zombie both our and your population and pump money into weapons. For example, now the Americans are trying to sell us a couple of dozen F16 Viper and don’t look at least a minimum of 2 billion, even with the political value of the contract. Nobody wants war, only money and more money ...
        1. -2
          30 September 2018 19: 04
          Look at 404 - half a year and you're done, militarized for the most I don't want. It will be the same with Europe, just click with your fingers - I say how a person there lived. The people are bored, there are no free media, propaganda works continuously - in reality everyone is just waiting for this when it will be possible to attack.
          It makes no sense to look at the German army, I said about NATO.
  17. 0
    30 September 2018 03: 12
    From Europe, every hundred years on the same rake, nothing history teaches.
  18. +1
    30 September 2018 18: 21
    Soother. Article-commercial. Information garbage.
    1. -3
      30 September 2018 19: 02
      But native Swedes say that it is.