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Azov Base Naval Forces. So where is it located?

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While the President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, with joyful excitement in his voice, was talking about a “super-successful operation” of sending two ships from the Black Sea to Azov under the Crimean Bridge, interested citizens of Ukraine had a question. It consists in the following: if Kiev seriously intends to create a naval base on the Sea of ​​Azov, then where exactly will it be located taking into account the virtually complete absence of any infrastructure suitable for it?


Azov Base Naval Forces. So where is it located?


This question was answered, which is remarkable, not representatives of the Ukrainian Navy, but deputies of the VRU. Nardep Ivan Vinnyk on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels announced that warships and artillery armored boats would be based in trade ports “at the initial stage”. We are talking about the ports of Berdyansk and Mariupol.

Then, as suggested by the Ukrainian parliamentarian, it will be necessary to invest in the military infrastructure on the Azov Sea.

From the statement of Mr. Vinnik:
Perhaps with the construction of moorings and the like. These plans are approved by the General Staff.


At the same time, the words “possible” and “approved” in this context do not fit well with each other.

Recall that the Ukrainian search and rescue ship A500 "Donbass" and the sea tug "Korets" passed through the Kerch Strait last Saturday. At the same time, pilotage services were provided by Russia, which is not mentioned in Kiev. These “boats” were accompanied by the coast guard of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. The transition from the Black Sea to the Azov Sea by Petro Poroshenko was presented almost as a round-the-world expedition.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 25 September 2018 06: 41
    +2
    From this trough, which is, as it were, the Ukrainian Navy, fishing will take place in the Sea of ​​Azov, now even far from the coast, it will replace how many civilian seiners. Now the boats of the FSB of the Russian Federation will not be able to check them on the basis of formal signs. How do the horses write there - check and checkmate, you "cotton wool"))
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 25 September 2018 06: 49
      +5
      Since the ship is not suitable for this, it is necessary to convert. Will the fishing cruiser work?
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 25 September 2018 07: 08
        0
        Well, yes, admirals take a fishing trip ...
        1. Sergey985
          Sergey985 25 September 2018 07: 11
          0
          If so, then the idea is very nothing)) They will not catch anything, so at least they will shoot. laughing
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 25 September 2018 12: 15
            +5
            It was presented almost as a round-the-world expedition.
            Well, if you look at the globe of Ukraine, the way it is ... smile
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 25 September 2018 20: 59
        0
        Quote: Sergey985
        Since the ship is not suitable for this, it is necessary to convert. Will the fishing cruiser work?

        What is there to convert? Not for nothing do the Ukrainians themselves laugh on the net, it’s strange that they came and didn’t drown!
        In short, Donbass was used as a dormitory for local officers who don’t even have rooms on a dormitory on land in Odessa, and then there was a fire in the sauna.

        In September 2016. "Donbass" burned out very much, so its "Korets" drags in tow.
        They "want to make a" naval base on the Sea of ​​Azov "out of a burned out ... (brothel - ed.), Which in 2 years they couldn’t bring to the state of" reaching its own speed "
        Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1537723202





    2. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 25 September 2018 07: 43
      +11
      Eyewitnesses report that the events under the Crimean Bridge were more reminiscent of the funeral of the Outskirts Navy than the birth of the Azov flotilla. A rusty tug pulls a burnt-out '69 barge at a speed of 3 knots (even feces swim faster in calm weather), there is something to be proud of, it's time to award medals "For Passage under the Bridge"smile. The Ministry of Defense of the Outskirts emphatically denied reports that people traveling along the Crimean Bridge had stopped to urinate on the “basis of the future Azov flotilla” that was passing beneath them. They say that someone even rolled a katyak to the stern of a tugboatlaughing.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 September 2018 17: 40
        0
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        The Ministry of Defense of the Outskirts strongly denied reports that people passing along the Crimean Bridge had stopped to urinate on the dejectedly “base of the future Azov flotilla” floating beneath them

        But won proudly declared
        According to the press officer of the Ukrainian naval forces Oleg Chalik, neither Donbass nor Korets requested any permits, but allegedly exercised their “legal right” to navigate the Sea of ​​Azov.

        “Our ships did not request any permits, but realized their legal right to pass,” Ukrainian media quoted Chalik as saying.

        wassat
        1. Sarmat Sanych
          Sarmat Sanych 25 September 2018 18: 10
          0
          And we have photo facts, now they will not go awaysmile
      2. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 25 September 2018 20: 19
        0
        A rusty tug pulls a 69-year-old burnt barge at a speed of 3 knots (even stools float faster in calm)

        A clear refutation of the old sea joke that the ships do not sail, but go. In this case, they swim, because they are not very different from the corresponding organic substance.
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 September 2018 11: 55
      0
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      From this trough, which is like the Ukrainian Navy

      Floating casino at 150 beds.
      It will be used to accommodate l / s "armored boats" and other "heroic" sailors who made an unprecedented transition, without losing, in the course of which, a single floating craft. laughing

      With the base, everything is ten orders of magnitude more complicated. Communications, communication centers ... ??? If there is current on a live thread, before the first rain. They will build a couple of berths. Raise the ensign. And every morning - to glorify Bandera’s disadvantages .... lol
  2. olgen
    olgen 25 September 2018 06: 46
    +3
    how happy they are that their shit swam under our bridge
    1. major147
      major147 25 September 2018 10: 10
      0
      Quote: olgen
      how happy they are that their shit swam under our bridge

      Let me simplify: "they are glad that their shit floated!"
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 September 2018 06: 47
    +5
    That rusty trough that was towed under the Crimean bridge is, of course, a formidable force ... Honestly, at first I thought that they were being dragged to Mariupol wassat laughing
    1. Barzha
      Barzha 25 September 2018 12: 03
      +1
      That rusty trough that was towed under the Crimean bridge is, of course, a formidable force ... Honestly, at first I thought that they were being dragged to Mariupol

      The tug that "Korets" pulled this tub half of the way "by the nostrils", because she was constantly driven by holhlo. Now he was dragged and moored in Mariupol, handing over to the caring hands of corrosion, which in 5-6 years "eats" him completely. But, firstly, this is not a search and rescue ship, but an ordinary floating workshop (PM-ka). And, secondly, PMs usually don't go anywhere for years. They stand quietly at the "wall". She, most likely, was dragged in to repair the very armored boats that were dragged overland to Berdyansk on the spot, and not to drag them in the same way to Nikolaev every time.
  4. Moore
    Moore 25 September 2018 06: 48
    +3
    At the same time, pilotage services were provided by Russia, what they don't talk about in Kiev.

    In Sumeria, however, a whole deliberation was announced on this occasion. And it’s like ...
    Pilots are good, that's right. And the naval tugboat, and the Su-27 from above, and the Raptors hanging on the tail of a rusty vessel. Who would guarantee that this floating eel would not unhook and hit the bridge support at the right time?
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 September 2018 06: 50
    +1
    The Azov base of the Navy. So where will it be located? ... Nardep Ivan Vinnik reported on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels

    ... just to crow, and there even let it not dawn! ... laughing
    1. The black
      The black 25 September 2018 07: 04
      +8
      In the wake of the feat of Ukrainian sailors. A tugboat followed by rope workshops (the scariest weapons of lathes), in advance, requested permission from Russia to pass under the bridge and pilot support. Having received both, they stood in line for civilian courts. Having defended their position, they passed under the bridge and arrived at their destination Berdyansk. The transcontinental sea passage is made with brilliance. The order of the Commander-in-Chief is executed. The naval base of Ukraine on Azov is created. Artists await awards ... wassat
      1. An60
        An60 25 September 2018 14: 09
        +1
        The "heroes" have already carved awards for themselves on the same terrible lathes.
  6. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 25 September 2018 06: 51
    +1
    In general, it’s a good idea to use trading ports for databases. maybe then the navy of Ukraine makes sense to make merchant or fishing. wassat
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 25 September 2018 07: 26
      0
      Quote: bessmertniy
      In general, it’s a good idea to use trading ports for databases. maybe then the navy of Ukraine makes sense to make merchant or fishing. wassat

      But the Russian Federation somehow placed the remaining part of the Caspian naval flotilla in trade ports, recently they just made the decision of Ch. Transfer the naval base of the CFL to Kaspiysk from Astrakhan ... although the Flotilla was stationed in Baku under the Union ...
      1. major147
        major147 25 September 2018 10: 14
        0
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Quote: bessmertniy
        In general, it’s a good idea to use trading ports for databases. maybe then the navy of Ukraine makes sense to make merchant or fishing. wassat

        But the Russian Federation somehow placed the remaining part of the Caspian naval flotilla in trade ports, recently they just made the decision of Ch. Transfer the naval base of the CFL to Kaspiysk from Astrakhan ... although the Flotilla was stationed in Baku under the Union ...

        Yes, and in Novorossiysk this was in the early 90's.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 September 2018 06: 51
    +1
    Petro Poroshenko with joyful excitement in his voice talked about the “supersuccessful operation”
    At the same time, he felt like a hero laid down on the Russian embrasure. Moreover, he perpetrated the provocation on the eve of the UN General Assembly meeting, hoping that Russia would deal with it harshly. But he screwed up again. It is not even worth talking about the "new base" of the Ukrainian Navy on Azov, because another election campaign for "true Svidomo".
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 25 September 2018 07: 28
      -1
      So that’s the point. Before each such gathering at the UN, the bus will explode in time, then they will be smashed around the OSCE, now there’s a round-the-clock tour around Ukraine. Which was accompanied by no less than an entire armada of pancake ships of the Russian Navy. Also, the aircraft made dangerous maneuvers in relation to these pelvis. Approximate text of the speech of Poros on the UN rostrum
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 25 September 2018 08: 41
        0
        I hope the bridge supports are stronger than this vessel. One hundred pounds, this kamikaze hitch
    2. major147
      major147 25 September 2018 10: 16
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Petro Poroshenko with joyful excitement in his voice talked about the “supersuccessful operation”
      At the same time, he felt like a hero laid down on the Russian embrasure. Moreover, he perpetrated the provocation on the eve of the UN General Assembly meeting, hoping that Russia would deal with it harshly. But he screwed up again. It is not even worth talking about the "new base" of the Ukrainian Navy on Azov, because another election campaign for "true Svidomo".

      Come on! Everything is thought out. They will drive their scrap metal into the port and call it a "naval base"! Check and checkmate to us, "quilted jackets"!
  8. Ham
    Ham 25 September 2018 06: 58
    +1
    there is already a floating barracks for a naval tank!
  9. Serg65
    Serg65 25 September 2018 07: 06
    +4
    what It seems to me alone that, in the Donbas, boats were stolen?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 25 September 2018 07: 46
      +2
      Well, yes, there’s nothing to save yourself!
      However, as far as I understand, the ship has no "course" ..... to be welded to the pier, or it will sink!
  10. A good one
    A good one 25 September 2018 07: 07
    +1
    Demonstration of the strength of the Navy of Ukraine, under the strict control of America. They checked our reaction on access to the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov.
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 25 September 2018 07: 15
      +2
      In the sense? Only the mighty fleet of Ukraine can pass. No warships of other countries will be allowed into the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov.
  11. Conductor
    Conductor 25 September 2018 07: 17
    +3
    So they are these vessels, following the example of Zaporozhye square, and welded to what thread. There will be some kind of Aurora autonomous spill.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 25 September 2018 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: Conductor
      So they are these vessels, following the example of Zaporozhye square, and welded to what thread. There will be some kind of Aurora autonomous spill.

      Submarine "Zaporozhye" at the pier in Sevastopol is ...
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 25 September 2018 07: 47
        0
        see the quality of welded!
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 25 September 2018 23: 05
          +1
          Quote: Conductor
          see the quality of welded!

          She stands next to our submarine "Alrosa", recently returned from the Crimea ...
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 25 September 2018 07: 48
        +2
        Subtlely spotted, however!
        Only it, as it were, is not already worth it, it is really Drowning!
        That will be dirt !!! When it finally sinks .... it's time to start up the needles!
  12. prior
    prior 25 September 2018 07: 57
    +1
    "Azov Naval Forces base. So where will it be located?" - where they will be located, there they will be buried.
    Apparently, these two rusty vessels are very suitable for a provocation of the "Donetsk Boeing" type. They will flood this rubbish themselves and will screech like slaughtered pigs that Russia has attacked and sank two modern warships in the port of Ukraine, and Shoigu's fingerprints will also be found on the fragments of some Tochka-U.
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  14. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 25 September 2018 08: 27
    +1
    This Para'shenka in his head is constantly spinning, apparently! Such diarrhea carries that even after 3 glasses you will not make out! And this vinnik (judging by his last name, a drunkard! And by the nature of his activity in the LIE, it is notorious nonsense!) With a hangover he rolled out such a shnyaga that it is doubtful that he himself understood what he was cutting about!
  15. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 25 September 2018 08: 53
    +1
    Perhaps with the construction of moorings and the like. These plans are approved by the General Staff.

    At the same time, the words “possible” and “approved” in this context do not fit well with each other.

    Normally they are joined. Plans approved. And construction is possible. The main thing is that NATO / USA give money. And we'll see. Attention! , at least for one at the pier, something undeveloped will remain.
  16. Kerensky
    Kerensky 25 September 2018 10: 29
    0
    warships and artillery armored boats will be based in trading ports

    And drugs will be placed in kindergartens and schools. Headquarters in the hospital .....
  17. 23424636
    23424636 25 September 2018 11: 44
    -1
    Previously, there was such a port of Genichesk, then, due to circumstances, it was closed, but the moorings and the water area will quite pull under the base, but the tanker (commander of the Ukrainian Navy) probably did not hear such a port
  18. Antares
    Antares 25 September 2018 12: 24
    -1
    From the statement of Mr. Vinnik:
    Perhaps with the construction of moorings and the like. These plans are approved by the General Staff.
    At the same time, the words "possible" and "approved" in this context do not fit well with each other

    He is a deputy, how can he know what is in the plans, if they are only approved?
    The new Ukrainian military base, which should appear in Berdyansk on the Sea of ​​Azov, will use the infrastructure of commercial ports. Such a statement was made by the people's deputy from BPP Ivan Vinnik, reports "112 Ukraine".
    He noted that the General Staff had already approved plans for the deployment of a military base.
    “As for infrastructure, while the infrastructure of trade ports will be used, in the future it will develop in the direction of military use, possibly with the construction of additional berths and the like,” the deputy said.

    interested citizens of Ukraine have a question. It consists in the following: if Kiev seriously intends to create a naval base on the Sea of ​​Azov, where exactly will it be located taking into account the virtually complete absence of any infrastructure suitable for it?

    I had another question, since the author incorrectly made an excerpt from the material. Is the infrastructure of trading ports suitable?
  19. Andrey Nikulnikov
    Andrey Nikulnikov 25 September 2018 12: 55
    0
    And what is not "round the world" then ?! From one end of the country to the other! This is our way from St. Petersburg to Vladik!
  20. Sergey985
    Sergey985 25 September 2018 14: 10
    0
    Interestingly, these troughs were inspected before the passage was allowed? Logically, they should have done it.
  21. Evil 55
    Evil 55 25 September 2018 15: 08
    0
    Well, where will this floating toilet stand?
  22. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 25 September 2018 20: 20
    0
    Three wise men in one basin
    Set sail across the sea ...
    Be better old pelvis
    My story would be longer.
  23. LeonidL
    LeonidL 26 September 2018 03: 50
    0
    Yes, a new word in navigation "Around the world journey of the rusty trough left over from the former floating workshop in tow and no less rusty trough of the former tugboat" ...