In the US: Marine Corps kills upgrading amphibious amphibious

US media outlets report that the Marine Corps is "killing the modernization program" of amphibious amphibious armored vehicles Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV). We are talking about armored vehicles that were planned to be upgraded using new onboard systems to the updated version of SAIC. It was also planned to increase the armor protection, install a new engine and transmission, upgrade the suspension.

The representative of the US Marine Corps, Manny Pacheco, states that the bulk of the previously planned AAV modernization works will not be carried out.

Pacheco:

The Marine Corps has spent approximately $ 125 million US dollars on upgrading AAV for survival, and is currently preparing to master another $ 96 million, which, after abandoning the modernization program, will have to be redistributed to other needs.

Earlier, the US Department of Defense was going to keep AAV amphibians in operation until 2035. By that time, it was planned to launch the mass production of the new amphibious amphibian ACV (Amphibious Combat Vehicle). But, reportedly, the desire to optimize costs leads to the fact that in the United States they decided to abandon the full modernization of AAV armored amphibians.

Pacheco:

AAV (70-ies of development) does not meet the needs of modern marine amphibious operations. Instead of continuing to invest in this armored vehicle, which even in an updated form will not provide adequate maneuverability, survivability and effectiveness of the landing, the Marine Corps believes that these funds should be used elsewhere.

For your information:
The amphibious assault project ACV suggests a wheeled version. In recent years, the United States has presented experimental design models of this technology. However, the general concept of creating the latest amphibious armored vehicle as a whole remains open.

Comments

[nPuBaTuP]

the next one drank babosov .... and here some shout that it’s to us that they’re sinning .... damn us still learning from mattresses how to cut budget loot ...

[Svarog]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

the next one drank babosov .... and here some shout that it’s to us that they’re sinning .... damn us still learning from mattresses how to cut budget loot ...

They sin this everywhere .. but unlike us, firstly not in such volumes, and secondly, the money remains in their economy, and our Shondondons export it to Lodndons .. and thirdly, if they are caught on this .. they’re definitely being planted ..

[Volodin]

Quote: Svarog

but unlike us, firstly not in such volumes

C'mon ... There is a trial about why 125 million dollars was spent on upgrades, but the matter was not completely resolved. 125 million dollars, for a moment, this is more than 8 billion rubles. Another 96 million dollars allocated, but do not even know where they will go now.

Quote: Svarog

and secondly, the money remains in their economy, and our Shmondons take them to Lodndona

Also doubtful. A considerable process of US defense companies has offshore assets. And whose economy is already there, even for the American taxpayer is difficult to understand, not like us here.

Quote: Svarog

and thirdly, if they are caught in this .. then they are definitely imprisoned ..

And many have been planted there in recent years for fraud in the military-industrial complex?

[Svarog]

Quote: Volodin

C'mon ... There is a trial about why 125 million dollars was spent on upgrades, but the matter was not completely resolved. 125 million dollars, for a moment, this is more than 8 billion rubles. Another 96 million dollars allocated, but do not even know where they will go now.

You still compare the scale of their economy and ours, in proportion ..

Quote: Volodin

Auger is doubtful. A large process of US defense companies has assets in offshore. And whose economy is already there, even the American taxpayer is hard to figure out, not that we are here.

What is doubtful, our guarantor has been struggling for 10 years and has been trying to return money back .. it doesn’t work out very well yet, and the amount of money taken out is estimated at several trillion dollars, though over 15 years, but still the amount is not small ..

Quote: Volodin

And many have been planted there in recent years for fraud in the military-industrial complex?

It is not correct to compare with Americans precisely .. there they call corruption lobbying .. And in general I can not stand it, when they compare their device, it annoys me in almost all areas .. If you compare with Europe, they put me there .. but to the extreme case, this career is definitely the end ..

[yehat]

in the military-industrial complex there, in fact, everything has long been divided between large corporations, and the time has passed long ago when they threw the state on taxes, otherwise they caught them for it. And the small ones often work for a reputation, because of which they also have no reason to stir up taxes. Therefore, financial violations of this kind there are few.

The main movement is at the lobbyist level.

[KCA]

And why are they catching honestly registered lobbyists who officially push "their" developers and manufacturers in the Congress for a small share?
Unlike Russia, giving a bribe to the United States is allowed, if it has taken shape as a lobbyist in advance, these same people knock out additional financing for projects from year to year, again not from the sincerity and purity of thoughts

[nPuBaTuP]

not in such volumes

Do not tell my horseshoes (s)
Can we recall their last aircraft carrier? .... destroyer? .... 5th generation fighter .. continue on yourself?

[Svarog]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

not in such volumes

Do not tell my horseshoes (s)
Can we recall their last aircraft carrier? .... destroyer? .... 5th generation fighter .. continue on yourself?

Before your horseshoes start laughing .. compare the scale of the economy ...

[Filxnumx]

Come on, our minders in the Moscow Region still have to grow and grow before these adult uncles. I remember at VO there was already an article comparing rollback levels: so in Ameria this level is much higher. And nobody is being jailed for this. For there is a military lobby. Although, maybe you have a list of seedlings. Do not share?

[den3080]

The volumes drank there are much larger, just look at the US military budget, so that is directly proportional.
Somehow I came across "talk of life" between the Americans on one resource.
I remember the following (almost a quote): ... tired of living here in the capital of transactions under the table and total corruption ...
it's about chicago, illinois.
and even with examples that I won’t reproduce because “we are not local”

[sib.ataman]

It would be that cut! Sawers are always there!

[Morglenn]

In general, the right decision. This junk can not be seriously improved, but it is better to send money to buy new cars.

[rocket757]

The best enemy of the good is the many times confirmed truth!
And yes, a new one, made by mind if it will be better than the old .... if they remember the truth above!

[sib.ataman]

Now we will discuss the development prospects of striped MO!

[newcomer]

220 million greenery for the modernization of caterpillar amphibians. for the money they would have created a new generation car. it would still be necessary to wash the bubble with sausage;

[san4es]

AAV (70s development) does not meet the needs of modern marine amphibious operations.

The amphibious amphibious project ACV suggests a wheeled version.

[Приговор]

Yes, ACV is quite a good coffin, tall, you can’t miss it.

[san4es]

Quote: Sentence

... tall, you will not miss.

The greater the V-shaped / clearance, the better the protection against min.

[rotmistr60]

The Marine Corps has spent approximately $ 125 million dollars ... is currently preparing to absorb another $ 96 million

Why not learn with the sky-high military budget. Ukraine is in shock - they are sometimes given so much to the entire army, but here only to modernize AAV.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: rotmistr60

Why not learn with the sky-high military budget.

So the funniest thing is that, with the entire sky-high military budget of the United States, the Marine Corps - front line of American imperialism - all his life he was in the position of rogue. Do you think they are from the good life of LVTP-7 once again began to modernize? Yes, this car had to be replaced by an EFV a quarter of a century ago. But there was no money for the complete rearmament of at least the first echelon on the EFV - and the purchases were reduced. And, as is often the case, the reduction in volumes caused an increase in the cost of one car. In the case of the EFV, the growth was truly cosmic: the cost of 1 unit exceeded the cost of the "abram". Exit? That's right - close the program, develop another LVTP-7 upgrade.
And so with the marines everywhere.
To maintain the combat readiness of its AV-8Bs, the Corps wanted to buy decommissioned British Harriers - for disassembly for parts. The reason - there was not enough money for new parts.
Copus wanted to replace his Cobras. The naval Apache was made in iron, flown, tested, found to meet all the requirements - and shelved. The reason is that there is no money. And Corps continued to order Cobras and Huey.
With tanks, the KMP turned out to be even funnier - the Marines were not just the last to be transferred to the Abrams. They began to receive them almost together with the Egyptians. And before that, we rode the M60.

[kplayer]

The peculiarity of the Marines is that they are assigned the role of "advanced" cannon fodder, which, perhaps, will not even reach the coast (whether to the descent zone), but will simply sink along with the landing ships and all their regular belongings, the same expeditionary bat For example, in the post-war period, the corps was lucky, since the MDO in the Korean Peninsula in the 50th or in Grenada in the 83rd is not the same level of the enemy, without the fleet and aviation, and in the Persian Gulf, previously deployed expeditionary brigades operated from land ...
I frankly believe that the corps never planned large MAOs with an invasion in the Polar North and the Far East of the USSR, except perhaps small MAOs on the adjacent islands and in the situation (distracting, demonstration of force, etc.), but it was planned to act in coastal areas , for example, from Norway (4th ebrmMP). Those. the main task of the corps is to keep in check the countries of the third world (the most modern O and BT are not required).

[Filxnumx]

about $ 96 million, which after abandoning the modernization program will have to be redistributed to other needs.
Do not know where to put 96 lyam greens? Pichalka Give them to the starving in Africa!

[Jerk]

Quote: Svarog

but unlike us, firstly not in such volumes

SHO? One Zamvolt, which IS NOT ABLE TO FULFILL THE STATED TASKS, and in connection with this has been officially re-qualified recently, has not even drunk the overlap, and the entire budget of the Moscow Region is much, and there are two of them. And such projects: F-22, smart grenade launcher, railgun, missile defense, not knocking anything down, catapult lactric, not working, robot transporter, mechanical mule, LCS program and much, much more)))

Quote: Svarog

and secondly, the money remains in their economy, and our Shmondons take them to Lodndona

It’s strange that Trump is whining - return production to the USA - there are no jobs, no taxes. TNCs are there in the Ministry of Defense on contracts, and they are transnational. Specifically for the Ministry of Defense - what’s the matter with Shtatov machine guns, and what’s the last century? Armed with someone in the infantry? Minimi
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The linden should be linden, not oak

[Disorder]

It was also planned to increase armor protection, install a new engine and transmission, upgrade the suspension.

I remember that BMP Bradley forgot how to swim after modernization. So the marines decided to play safe - God forbid, they will begin to sink after modernization.

[kplayer]

Ha! Type of loss of buoyancy Bradley was a surprise to developers and the customer (army). Any modernization is pre-designed and calculated, then the sample is still tested for compliance with the design assignment. The loss of buoyancy was a planned compromise for the army. If the mass of the car has exceeded 22,6 tons. (the limit for machines with similar dimensions and internal volume) - consider it not a swimmer.

[Disorder]

Well then, Bradley. She is a land vehicle. Swims - well, does not swim - well, okay. And then amphibian.

[kplayer]

Those. if only to blurt out something, we decided to start with Bradley, but are you still trying to continue with amphibian ?!

Quote: kplayer

Any modernization is pre-designed and calculated, then the sample is still tested for compliance with the design assignment.

Like, the project is not ready and NOT R&D tested, and stupid Americans planned to upgrade to abum even WITHOUT military tests, and this under the condition that one of the main requirements for amphibians is stability and preservation of buoyancy with a sea wave of 3 points?

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