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Call sign "Filaret". Forced transfer of parishioners to the Kiev Patriarchate

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In Kiev, the possible profit from receiving the so-called Ecumenical Patriarch of autocephaly of the UOC Kiev Patriarchate is already calculated. In addition, another goal is indicated, which is pursued by Western intelligence agencies in obtaining the UOC-KP independent patriarchate. This goal was actually given out by Filaret (Denisenko). It is noteworthy that Philaret presented his reasoning after the Voice of America radio station in the United States.


Call sign "Filaret". Forced transfer of parishioners to the Kiev Patriarchate


According to him, after receiving the autocephaly by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate, the Moscow Patriarchate "will be halved" and "will no longer claim the first place among Orthodox churches."

Filaret, who wrote a “penitential” letter to Moscow a few months ago, after meeting with representatives of American political circles and intelligence services, now announced that Putin was using the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate as a “means of putting pressure on Ukraine”.

All these statements by Filaret (Denisenko) indicate that a purely political decision is being taken. There is not a drop of religion or religion. Indeed, according to the new Ukrainian tradition, no one in Kiev (and even more so in Washington) is not going to be interested in the opinion of the Ukrainian people directly about which church to go to. And after the statements of President Poroshenko that “Ukraine will now pray to its gods,” it finally becomes clear that all this activity even has nothing to do with Orthodoxy itself.

Filaret (Denisenko), who is advised by American lobbyists on the idea of ​​breaking all ties with Russia, talking twice about the reduction of the Moscow Patriarchate, for some reason, is sure that all UOC MP parishioners suddenly turn over to his side. Or, and here everything will be planted in blood, as it has recently been adopted in Ukraine?

For reference: Filaret (Mikhail Denisenko) 89 years. He is a native of Donbass.
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  1. Purim
    Purim 22 September 2018 07: 07
    +7
    It was not possible to crush Russia politically and economically .. Now they took up our Orthodox faith "divide and conquer ..!" ..
    And this is very serious the Orthodox faith, this is the core on which Russia stood and will stand! God bless Russia! We will break through in this war ..
    1. Jolly oldster sailor
      Jolly oldster sailor 22 September 2018 08: 29
      -2
      Russia stood on Faith and will stand. It will not work for anyone to break this core with us. hi
      1. Purim
        Purim 22 September 2018 08: 38
        +3
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Russia stood on Faith and will stand. It will not work for anyone to break this core with us. hi

        I agree, but so far they are breaking it and very specifically .. There has already been a wave on our ROC, such a howl stood here on the site.
        Now you have to wait for the next one .. Again "Pusi Wright" will come up with the next hi
        When the Germans stood near Moscow, Stalin ordered all the monks to be released, and even did something with the holy icon of Russia there. And it turned out, surprisingly to the whole world! The strip Leningrad-Moscow-Stalingrad, rested specifically and then drove (sorry that it’s not up to the Atlantic ..) soldier
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 22 September 2018 09: 12
          -3
          "Our" Orthodox Church and no one needs to "crush", she herself, herself successfully "crushes":

          1. Purim
            Purim 22 September 2018 09: 59
            +2
            Quote: Snail N9
            "Our" Orthodox Church and no one needs to "crush", she herself, herself successfully "crushes":

            Well, here's the first "clicker" appeared .... The Orthodox faith, it is in our souls Russian, finally understand the liberal demonic. hi And your dances and cries, they don’t act on us. Just you feel sorry for demons .. Russia is alive only with FAITH in the TRUTH! Remember the Bodrov movie?
            1. Serge Gorely
              Serge Gorely 22 September 2018 10: 15
              +4
              Quote: Purim
              Quote: Snail N9
              "Our" Orthodox Church and no one needs to "crush", she herself, herself successfully "crushes":

              Well, here's the first "clicker" appeared .... The Orthodox faith, it is in our souls Russian, finally understand the liberal demonic. hi And your dances and cries, they don’t act on us. Just you feel sorry for demons .. Russia is alive only with FAITH in the TRUTH! Remember the Bodrov movie?

              Do you remember Bondarchuk's film "The Fate of a Man?" There is an episode with prisoners in the church. Reconsider, especially since most of the actors knew the war firsthand. And then compare it with the modern disgusting film "Penal Battalion", but the local actors have not seen the war actor.
              1. Purim
                Purim 22 September 2018 10: 27
                0
                Quote: Serge Gorely
                Do you remember Bondarchuk's film "The Fate of a Man?"

                I remember everything, but the current generation is not particularly, under the cries of Western propaganda in the media. soldier
                https://ok.ru/video/9098167798?fromTime=7
                Everything happened at that terrible time ..
              2. Snail N9
                Snail N9 22 September 2018 10: 54
                -1
                Uh-huh .... all those who do not believe the "money-lovers" from the church, dressed in the clothes of "keepers of the faith" - "apostates" and "unpatriots" ...... As is familiar, they say the same about those who turn off TV, when there is another "nightingale show" .... it is obvious that many people do not understand that if the so-called "church" itself does not follow the "Sermon on the Mount", but demands it from its followers, then such a "church" he is pharisee and deserves neither respect nor veneration ...
            2. Berkut24
              Berkut24 22 September 2018 10: 36
              +4
              Let me tell you a not very pleasant thing. The Orthodox Church in many states. And if you look closely, they believe there are different ways and rather the church adapts to nationality, and not vice versa. And here it is not at all a fact that in the heat of general schizophrenia a significant part of Ukrainians will not go to the Kiev patriarchy.
              As for our churchmen ... I am convinced that if a priest instructs the flock, he himself must live according to the laws of Christ, live modestly and confirm his holy doctrine with his whole life. Parishioners must believe him. And if there is no faith in a mentor, then faith in his teaching dies away.
              I work in Moscow, not far from the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. And I often see what cars the clergy drive, and what taverns they visit, and what kind of guards are behind them (not inferior to Putin), and flashing lights ... And everyone knows what apartments Kirill and his brothers live in. And maybe the lads. An irrepressible passion for real estate, stocks, ships and other "earthly interests" undermines faith in the church and its teachings. So the demons, about which you have already mentioned in the holy of holies, and we, as you rightly noted, no longer believe in God so much as in the Truth. But looking at our Patriarchate, merged with power, it seems that this is not for long.
            3. zloybond
              zloybond 22 September 2018 12: 39
              +3
              As it happened during a private conversation, the question was then not asked of Patriarch Kirill. He pretended that there was no question. He turned away. No matter what. Just an awkward question. It was simply from the height of his sowing to explain or discuss. So with the people. Some stupidly like fanatics rush to defend. Others, realizing that a mere redistribution of influence over their heads, are going past their own path. There, too (in the church) business. Although Jesus persecuted them for trade in temples, nothing has changed. Church priests are now the same money-givers as before. And it’s not about God, it’s about pockets, profits, that in Ukraine, that we have ..... I know God does not live in the church ... He quietly settles in the soul ...
            4. Hole puncher
              Hole puncher 22 September 2018 14: 06
              +3
              Quote: Purim
              Orthodox faith, it’s in our souls Russians

              If it is in your soul, then what is the difference which church?
            5. Barzha
              Barzha 24 September 2018 12: 17
              0
              Well, here's the first "clicker" appeared .... The Orthodox faith, it is in our souls Russian, finally understand the liberal demonic. hi And your dances and screams do not affect us. Just feel sorry for the demons .. Russia is alive only by BELIEVING IN THE TRUTH!

              +1000000 !!! I will subscribe to EVERY word !!! hi
          2. credo
            credo 23 September 2018 16: 03
            0
            Quote: Snail N9
            "Our" Orthodox Church and no one needs to "crush", she herself, herself successfully "crushes":

            You have not confused our church with yours for an hour?
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    2. Finches
      Finches 22 September 2018 09: 15
      +1
      Constantinople will return the status of the Kiev Metropolitanate in its patriarchy, and then give it autocephaly - and do not care! The peaceful coexistence of the two patriarchates of Constantinople and Moscow is possible, it’s possible, as in Estonia, but the transfer of churches and everything related to the material side of the issue is another matter — so here is more earthly than spiritual!
      1. Antares
        Antares 22 September 2018 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        The peaceful coexistence of the two patriarchates of Constantinople and Moscow is possible, it’s possible, as in Estonia, but the transfer of churches and everything related to the material side of the issue is another matter — so here is more earthly than spiritual!

        So this is the cornerstone of all this bacchanalia of opioid for the people!
        Limiting the influence of Moscow with a reduction in financial flows and deprivation of property. Ordinary grandmothers ... faith doesn’t smell like that. Everyone (Moscow and Kiev) needs banal money and power.
        Faith itself does not change. Only the way of financial flows changes. But because of the money, a wave rises that this is wrong, a split, etc.
        What the Russian Federation thought in 2014 is unclear. But going into conflict with Ukraine over the Crimea, one should think that the gap would be painful for everyone.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 22 September 2018 11: 51
          +1
          Quote: Antares
          going to a conflict with Ukraine over the Crimea, one should think that the gap would be painful for everyone.

          How? For all of whom is this for? Isn't the redistribution of financial flows to the church much more painful for "everyone" than to leave the people of Crimea under the heel of ukrofashism? Allowing rivers of blood on a peninsula with thousands of victims? You have some kind of organ that is not the right one and from the wrong stimulus perceives painful sensations ...
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 22 September 2018 12: 16
            0
            Quote: NIKNN
            You have some kind of organ that is not the right one, and that the wrong stimulus perceives pain ...

            His flag is not the same, and of all affairs ...
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 22 September 2018 13: 35
        0
        Peaceful coexistence of the two patriarchates of Constantinople and Moscow is possible, as in Estonia

        You remember Estonia in vain. Estonia is considered the most non-religious country in Europe, simply by the number of diverse parishioners per capita. Ukraine is completely different in this regard
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 September 2018 13: 53
          0
          I don’t think in vain - but as an example of the joint coexistence of two patriarchates and nothing more!
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  2. Strashila
    Strashila 22 September 2018 07: 12
    +5
    Insanity and greed ... greed and insanity, it's time to think about the soul ... and he is about a warm place in the underworld.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 22 September 2018 07: 42
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      Insanity and greed ...

      ... and godlessness.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 22 September 2018 08: 19
        +3
        From ancient times in Russia, with some reproach and humor, they relate to church servants, but Vera did not suffer from this. Well, this Filaret went even further, embarked on a path of schism among believers.
        1. Jolly oldster sailor
          Jolly oldster sailor 22 September 2018 08: 34
          +3
          And they didn’t lose their identity from the split — we now get along quite peacefully with you, even though you call us splitters, however, who started this split? Who are splitters? We still observe the Old Rite.
          1. Russia
            Russia 22 September 2018 08: 45
            +5
            With faith, you need to be careful, here you cannot reassure parishioners by any exhortations.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 22 September 2018 10: 48
          0
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Since ancient times in Russia ...

          hi
          Since ancient times in Russia, interference in spiritual affairs, a forcible change in the canons of the church led to unrest in the state and a lot of blood. Yes, some ministers of the church are not without sin and greed; yes, many ceremonies became pretentious, theatrical, not to mention the attire of hierarchs and the golden interiors of churches of the lower order. It should be more modest, in a Christian way. But the church itself must come to this, without state decrees, otherwise it will turn not into a spiritual temple, but into a theater. Namely, this is what "veroopora" is now turning into in the former Ukraine, but the sauce for this dish will be a human blood. And the initiator of this action is the fascist-Bandera clique, headed by the circumcised "Christian" Waltzman, led by the Washington regional committee. Bitter for the Orthodox Ruins. yes
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 22 September 2018 13: 38
            +1
            From ancient times in Russia, interventions in spiritual affairs, forcible change of church canons led to unrest in the state and great blood.

            Come on. Well, let’s take for example Peter the Great, who abolished the patriarchy, who appointed himself the head of the church, and introduced the position of Chief Prosecutor of the Holy Synod. So what? Where is the blood? They lived the same way until 1917. There, still a little saint, now a saint, tried to become a patriarch ..
  3. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 22 September 2018 07: 12
    +5
    This schismatic, the devils were waiting for hell-the cauldron was tired of personal tearing, the pan was being cleaned .... the ghoul was healed in this world, healed ...
  4. Mihail55
    Mihail55 22 September 2018 07: 23
    +6
    On September 20, the relics of St. Spyridon of Trimifuntsky were brought to Yaroslavl. They stayed in our city for less than a day in the Assumption Cathedral. After work I was able to venerate the relics. Words cannot convey. Problems ... worries ... low-turnout elections ended! And then there are MASSES of people, many with small children (they skip the line with their parents)! It is already dark, the people are still arriving ... When they went out with the wife of their church at about 9 pm, the queue still arrived (that is, many could only get in at night). In Ukraine, there are exactly the same people, the power of scoundrels rules them ... but it cannot take the SOUL out of them! I don’t believe that the schismatic Filaret and his “roof” will get away with his dirty work! Let's break through!
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 22 September 2018 07: 32
      0
      Quote: Michael55
      And then there are MASSES of people, many with small children (they are with their parents out of turn)!

      Zyuganov, too, out of turn was allowed to go to some knuckles.
      1. Antares
        Antares 22 September 2018 10: 42
        0
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Zyuganov, too, out of turn was allowed to go to some knuckles.

        Relics is an old still pagan custom to keep ... Christianity privatized it (like many other pagan things)
        The main thing here is historical authenticity ... Most relics are ordinary, designed for placebo. The power of self-hypnosis is sometimes stronger than drugs. And faith is only in this, and not in gods and idols ...
  5. Conductor
    Conductor 22 September 2018 07: 23
    +1
    Not so bad. THAT A MAN IS MORTAL, AND THAT HE CAN BE Suddenly Mortal (c)
  6. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 September 2018 07: 29
    +8
    But I don’t really need a church (not to be confused with faith). Let the spears break there because of the roach. The icon of grandfathers hangs in a corner, if with a pure heart - you can pray with any words. Or maybe someone read the Bible poorly?
    But to be honest, then for some actions of idiots, you can take up the machine.
    1. Purim
      Purim 22 September 2018 07: 35
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      But I don’t really need a church (not to be confused with faith). Let the spears break there because of the roach. The icon of grandfathers hangs in a corner, if with a pure heart - you can pray with any words.

      Well, then break through ..! Great comment ...
      Quote: Fedorov
      But to be honest, then for some actions of idiots, you can take up the machine.

      Also, such thoughts have been constantly going on lately .. Blood smells in the world, maybe it can do without war?
      1. Russia
        Russia 22 September 2018 08: 50
        +2
        I don’t know, men, how much patience you have, but cannot last so long. hi I really wanted you to get everything right.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 September 2018 09: 39
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      The icon of grandfathers hangs in a corner, if with a pure heart - you can pray with any words

      So you don’t have to pray for the image ...
      Quote: Fedorov
      Or maybe someone read the Bible poorly?

      request
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 22 September 2018 13: 54
        +1
        Not on the image. An icon is like a certain lens, it adjusts to the necessary thoughts and words with actions.
        He wanted to swear (no matter with whom) after hard work, went home, saw - calmed down.
  7. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 September 2018 07: 30
    +5
    Filaret (Denisenko), who is advised by American lobbyists on the idea of ​​breaking all ties with Russia, talking twice about the reduction of the Moscow Patriarchate, for some reason, is sure that all UOC MP parishioners suddenly turn over to his side. Or, and here everything will be planted in blood, as it has recently been adopted in Ukraine?
    And Putin with his cunning plan for the Donbass interestingly suggested such a development in 2014? Purely for general development. My question is repeat
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov 22 September 2018 07: 40
      +4
      And what do aliens help him? Acted according to the situation and quite competently. Although Mariupol needed to be taken (my opinion), the fuse of LDNR was in vain stopped. I kind of was there a bit.
    2. Purim
      Purim 22 September 2018 07: 48
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      And Putin with his cunning plan for the Donbass interestingly suggested such a development in 2014? Purely for general development. My question is

      I think Putin's analysts are not bad and they all knew it very well .. But it's not over yet, as they say! Russia has never been in the world "my house is on the edge, I don't know anything" .. Russia has such a fate, forever interfere in everything and bend its line .. No matter how they kick and humiliate us in the "world media" and on the website .. .And I am proud of Russia and we will show ourselves to the whole world. We are ours, we will build a new world ..!
      But for now, everything is going according to their plan ...

      1. Antares
        Antares 22 September 2018 10: 43
        -1
        Quote: Purim
        But for now, everything is going according to their plan ...

        despite the fact that he was debunked, the campaign of the Russian Federation plays in it itself, and partners help. So to speak out of interest in the game / plan
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 22 September 2018 14: 16
        +1
        Purim .
        And I am proud of Russia and we will show ourselves to the whole world. We are ours, we will build a new world ..!
        But for now, everything is going according to their plan ...
        good laughing And if we don’t build? repeat :
    3. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 22 September 2018 07: 50
      0
      I don't think so. All too often, his advisers fall into the kind of mistake: "We are so cool that THEY (substitute the necessary one) they simply don't dare! "No - it works intermittently. In Crimea, for example, it worked. But if THEY still dare angry - the Kremlin and near-swimming comrades usually have a kind of "cognitive dissonance" ... laughing
    4. rum
      rum 22 September 2018 07: 53
      +5
      If he knew EVERYTHING and Assumed, he would be God lol
    5. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 22 September 2018 08: 05
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Putin with his cunning plan for the Donbass interestingly suggested such a development in 2014?

      His HPP is not over yet. Wait ...
  8. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 22 September 2018 07: 45
    +2
    The couple did not understand anything. New film, or what?
  9. rum
    rum 22 September 2018 08: 01
    +2
    Quote: Sergey Goncharov
    But if they still dare

    Do you think that someone is following the rules and agreements? And especially believe each other?
    Example- Jews, Turks ... agreed? Compliant? Little? And there is still so much THIS kindness ... so, like this
  10. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 22 September 2018 08: 01
    +1
    The world has gone completely crazy .. I just imagine a picture. I come to my church, where I was baptized, where I married my wife, where later my children were baptized and some unclear unclear people try to go into it and now they will steer everyone there ... My reaction will be at least sharp ....
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov 22 September 2018 08: 10
      +2
      So I wrote about the above, for the machine and GO.
      I don’t know about you, but in our country the population of weapons has a shaft already. Only the brain is needed when to use it. hi
      1. Cottager452
        Cottager452 22 September 2018 09: 22
        -1
        Do not confuse the return spring with an elastic band from cowards, dick!
  11. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 22 September 2018 08: 09
    +1
    it was necessary to excommunicate him from the church and give him anathema am
    1. Borisovich
      Borisovich 22 September 2018 09: 10
      +2
      Quote: ANCIENT
      it was necessary to excommunicate him from the church and give him anathema am

      So long ago already excommunicated and anathema betrayed. Deprived of dignity. He’s cutting it.
  12. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 22 September 2018 08: 17
    0
    It seems that Denisenko wants to become the first New Ukrainian saint. And Petka, too. Why simply will not accept flour in the ATO? What other bastards does the indomitable Ukrainians demand?
  13. Mihail55
    Mihail55 22 September 2018 08: 21
    +2
    Quote: ANCIENT
    0
    it was necessary to excommunicate him from the church and give him anathema

    Already..
    Separate the monk Filaret (Mikhail Antonovich Denisenko) from the Church of Christ. May he be anathema to all the people.
    http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/417804.html
    2008g.
    1. Antares
      Antares 22 September 2018 10: 49
      0
      Anathema [Greek ἀνάθεμα - excommunication from the Church] - this is the excommunication of a Christian from fellowship with the faithful and from the sacraments, used as the highest church punishment for grave sins (primarily for betraying Orthodoxy and evasion of heresy or schism) and collectively proclaimed.
      Church anathema should not be confused with excommunication (ἀφορισμός) - a temporary ban on a person from participating in church sacraments - punishment for misconduct:
      larceny, fornication (Ap. 48), participation in receiving a church post by means of a bribe (Ap. 30), etc., does not require a conciliar decision and does not need a proclamation in a council for entry into force.
      Given that Tserkov is a closed joint-stock company, it is to excommunicate whom it wants to and excommunicate.
      The church once excommunicated Leo Tolstoy himself !!!!
      the writer dared to compose the “Gospel set forth by Leo Tolstoy”, in his pride believing that he was the best of all who had lived for the nineteen centuries before him, he understood best of all what Christ taught ...

      Ish encroached on a monopoly .... here's a whip for you ...
      In general, faith is certainly a continuation of our animal being ...
      Reason, I hope someday win ...
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 September 2018 08: 40
    +4
    "Ukraine will now pray to its gods"
    As always, he spoke "powerfully" and not on a sober head. Following Poroshenko's logic, Ukraine urgently needs to come up with "its gods" to whom they will pray. Then what does Orthodoxy have to do with it? Solid sur mixed with nationalism and Russophobia.
    1. Antares
      Antares 22 September 2018 10: 55
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Ukraine will now pray to its gods

      Well, at least you need to watch what he said! For which he received fair criticism from his citizens (there is no interesting idea about redirecting flows from Moscow to Kiev, but near-propaganda chatter ... this is a disaster)
      Ukrainians will not worship alien gods. This was announced on September 20 in his speech to the Verkhovna Rada by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, the press service of the President.
      “As the Holy Scriptures command, you and I will definitely not worship other gods,” the President noted. - And the state will not interfere in the internal affairs of the Church. In particular, foreign. Why are they fighting so hard for this? Because the empire is losing one of its last leverage. Tomos is actually another Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine. ”
      According to the Head of State, the significance of Tomos extends far beyond Ukraine.
      “For us, our own church is a guarantee of spiritual freedom. <...> This is the fall of the Third Rome as an ancient conceptual claim of Moscow for world hegemony, "Poroshenko said.

      In general, the best choice here gave a blunder ... who writes tests to him? Is it so hard to say otherwise?
      Although if he advocated a return to Perun ... laughing then yes - alien gods would be out of place ...
      Even to me, as an atheist, the expression “alien gods” reminded me of something completely different ...
      So the Indians of America talked about Christian ...
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 September 2018 08: 45
    +2
    Filaret (Mikhail Denisenko) is 89 years old. He is a native of Donbass.

    ... not long remained the impostor, and the renegade ... angry
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 22 September 2018 09: 10
      +1
      In fact, the comrades of such a warehouse either live very notlong, or vice versa - live very long. Given the fact that Filaret is already 89 ... What if he reaches the PBVUCH (the maximum biological age of a mentally full-fledged person) ?? And this - for a minute - ~ 125 years old !! laughing
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 22 September 2018 10: 38
        0

        Sergey Goncharov (Sergey) Today, 09: 10
        ... a mentally full person ...

        ... well, this’s Denisenko’s bear’s pseudo-priest, doesn’t belong ... he doesn’t have one at which they live to 125 ...
  16. andron-30
    andron-30 22 September 2018 09: 27
    +1
    Satan and the warrior of the kiss of the hoof of the antichrest for Ukraine is life, life as they say magicism,
  17. Purim
    Purim 22 September 2018 10: 05
    0
    So Ukraine is changing faith ...? Like a geyropa ...
    Take note. soldier
  18. alexmach
    alexmach 22 September 2018 13: 32
    +2
    Lord, what’s there to do with blood. We take the middle village, In the village there is usually only one church, repaint it under the new patriarchy, and what will the average villager do here? Will it be conquered? Or, God forbid, he will go to a neighboring village?
  19. Altona
    Altona 22 September 2018 13: 44
    0
    Quote: Purim
    Well, the first "clicker" appeared .... The Orthodox faith, it is in our souls Russians, you finally understand the liberal demonic

    -------------------
    Faith is in the soul, not in the temple. Christ did not call for schism and enrichment.
  20. Altona
    Altona 22 September 2018 13: 45
    0
    Quote: alexmach
    Lord, what’s there to do with blood. We take the middle village, In the village there is usually only one church, repaint it under the new patriarchy, and what will the average villager do here? Will it be conquered? Or, God forbid, he will go to a neighboring village?

    ----------------------
    Will go to schismatics and Old Believers. This has happened repeatedly. In general, the state should be secular, and not play a religious card.
  21. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 22 September 2018 14: 16
    0
    A flying pasta monster looks at their squabble indulgently.
  22. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 September 2018 14: 37
    +1
    Religion is a cunning tool of Power. It touches upon the root issues, one might say, primitive, and therefore it looks quite logical --- since Ukraine, thanks to our wise policy, is sailing away from us and will soon become "a big Poland near Smolensk, a system of NATO bases. . in this vital landscape, our patriarch looks somehow foreign, and he did not insert his main word when the temples were taken away. So ... polites ... they take away the whole Temple from you, so you arrive promptly on the vertical, stand up, you know who the protection of the shrine is in the fall. DO NOT ... ... we didn’t pass this, remains silent, the guardian of the Sun --- all-giving and all-incinerating ... Orthodoxy is a reflection of our foreign policy // // degenerate, according to all the laws of political science from internal politics /// The ring of those whom we can care for is shrinking to the borders, just like allies we cannot afford ---- the West or China offers them more favorable conditions. So, general political analysis, and if will go deep, too. With caps with a flashlight, you will go into the my scorching heat --- and then you won't see anything ... But the Swiss and London banks are not worse than their hours, so they know exactly who doesn't need to twitch yet, and who, in accordance with Trump's latest decisions, It's time, sir-comrade, kick the whole family, our dear patriot-official. Ah - Ah-ah, Volodin's daughter will probably die /// in a good way, I am a fiend /// without daily Cambridge riding lessons. What a horror, guys, this is Volodin now you need to organize your own stud farm ...? That's right! Import substitution in action! we will then read about such an accomplishment, perhaps ...
  23. 23424636
    23424636 22 September 2018 17: 53
    -1
    This rare one was born in a village not far from here, this village is called Blagodatnoe, I knew a man who sat with him at the same desk and cleaned his hair at breaks, but it’s not enough .. When this one closed the Kiev Pechersk Lavra under Khrushchev, the elders expelled from the monastery said him. that his death is in his hands. or, more simply, by a natural rank, he does not die only suicide, and this is not even buried in the general graveyard. Yanukovych, with the blessing of the presidency from Patriarch Kirill, was instructed to put an end to this liar, but the boy could not overcome fear and only slightly patted the environment of the weak Metropolitan Vladimir. but Patriarch Alexy 90 categorically recommended the weak and dependent Turkish-born Bartholomew not to get into the bosom of the Russian Orthodox Church and he cowardly agreed. But when the whole Jewish kagal began to sing 2 he took a chance. Anyway, believers are not afraid of these tricks, because after the Jewish Bolsheviks and their bloody bath over the priesthood of the Russian Orthodox Church, it will not be worse, For Russia and the Virgin Mary are with us.
  24. Hiller
    Hiller 22 September 2018 19: 50
    0
    Another "pop gapon", or rather "a sailor of the merchant fleet written off for drunkenness," is a schismatic, defrocked, a traitor to the faith - the bear Denisenko. Himself no one can call. A rare selfish scoundrel.
  25. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 22 September 2018 20: 21
    0
    An old wicked devil in hell prepared a VIP pan.
  26. Evil 55
    Evil 55 24 September 2018 03: 26
    0
    89 years .. for a short time he left .. And who is the legal successor of the grandfather? Obviously the same scumbag ..
  27. Barzha
    Barzha 24 September 2018 12: 18
    0
    Callsign "Filaret"

    Rather "klikuha"! Or "pogonyalovo" !!!