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Abroad will help us! Ex-General told how NATO will “punish” Russia

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The North Atlantic Alliance will take action and stand up for Kiev if Russia's behavior in the Sea of ​​Azov does not change. This was stated by a veteran of foreign intelligence of Ukraine, now retired, Lieutenant General Vasily Bogdan.


Abroad will help us! Ex-General told how NATO will “punish” Russia


In an interview with the Ukrainian edition of Apostrof, Bogdan, in particular, said that while Ukraine is trying to resolve the issue of liberation of Donbass and Crimea "from occupation" by diplomatic means, but sooner or later it will use military force to release the "temporarily occupied territories". First we will win the Donbass, and then the turn of the Crimea will come, the pensioner is sure.

But at present, Ukraine is not yet ready for the military scenario of “liberating its lands,” Bogdan believes, so for the time being it is necessary to step up sanctions against the Crimea so that it becomes clear to everyone that in Ukraine “live better than in Crimea”. Ukraine will achieve this within five to six years, raising the standard of living above the Russian.

The only variant of the military scenario is seen by the pensioner only if "Russia's behavior in the Sea of ​​Azov" does not change, and if Russia does not stop "snatching up" in the Black Sea, then NATO will come to the aid of Ukraine and create Moscow "serious problems of a military nature", since Russia's strategic advantage in the Black Sea "does not suit anyone," especially since "Moscow is unable to resist the power of NATO."
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  1. Gray brother
    Gray brother 21 September 2018 17: 06
    +13
    Someone barks from behind the wall of Yaytsenyuk)))
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 21 September 2018 17: 13
      +18
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Someone is barking

      Somebody ? Or something ? And doesn’t bark, but stink? wink
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 September 2018 17: 20
        +7
        It is no longer possible for them to breathe from their own feces, but they will continue ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 September 2018 17: 39
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          but they will continue ...

          1. sabakina
            sabakina 21 September 2018 18: 09
            +4
            Grunt, I like this more:
      2. NIKN
        NIKN 21 September 2018 17: 35
        +4
        Ukraine will achieve this within five to six years, raising the standard of living above Russian.
        Why haven’t you achieved it yet? belay We have already eaten all the hedgehogs or moles salted for the winter (I don’t remember what we ate there already) ate what they have? even worse... laughing
    2. venik
      venik 21 September 2018 19: 51
      0
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Someone barking from behind the wall of Yaytsenyuk

      =====
      Not Yaytsenyuk - but YaytsenyuHa !!!!
  2. Labrador
    Labrador 21 September 2018 17: 07
    +4
    Like it or not, but with breakfasts in Ukraine everything is in order :)
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 September 2018 17: 21
      +5
      But they don’t come. lol
      1. Labrador
        Labrador 21 September 2018 17: 36
        +1
        God grant that they do not continue to insist! And even in our power, not everything is going smoothly, unfortunately.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 21 September 2018 18: 16
        +5
        Quote: cniza
        But they don’t come. lol

        And they cannot come. Tomorrow - always tomorrow. smile
        - My rule is firm: jam for tomorrow! And only for tomorrow!
        “But tomorrow, someday it will be today!”
        - No never! Tomorrow is never today! Is it possible to wake up in the morning and say: "Well, now, finally, tomorrow"?
        © “Alice in Wonderland”, Lewis Carroll
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 21 September 2018 18: 18
      -3
      Quote: Labrador
      Like it or not, but with breakfasts in Ukraine everything is in order :)

      Yeah, especially with oatmeal! bully
  3. Rusj
    Rusj 21 September 2018 17: 07
    +6
    Nato will punish us !!!? But NATO that immortals punish Russia! Clowns Bandera.
    1. major147
      major147 21 September 2018 21: 29
      0
      Quote: Rusj
      Nato will punish us !!!? But NATO that immortals punish Russia! Clowns Bandera.

      Aha! I remember in the Crimea one shouted: "America is with us!" And did America help them a lot in Crimea?
  4. Terenin
    Terenin 21 September 2018 17: 12
    +10
    NATO will create serious problems for Russia ... And before that, it included air conditioning for us, for comfort.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 September 2018 17: 23
      +7
      They still do not realize that they will have many surprises from NATO, when they will be ripped off three skins, for all the trash set up and shoved into a meat grinder.
  5. Evil 55
    Evil 55 21 September 2018 17: 23
    +3
    And how many of the entogo "supergeneral" orders of combat ... That's the whole answer to the attempts of "superfluous", "sick" and "useless" ..
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  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 21 September 2018 17: 24
    +3
    Europeans and Yankees, having retired, begin to totally tell the truth, and Ukrainians always and everywhere either lie or shit, but very often they do both, but they also rave fool
    1. Kosta153
      Kosta153 21 September 2018 18: 23
      +2
      Who was he during the USSR? How do they change their shoes, just a car.
      1. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 22 September 2018 05: 48
        0
        Deputy He was the head of the First Directorate of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR. Lieutenant Colonel GB. Member of the CPSU. Everything is as it should be. That's what kind of people the Native Party brought up !! good
  7. skomfit
    skomfit 21 September 2018 17: 24
    +2
    I’d like to say: Your trunk is pinched. They were militiamen who kicked the Debaltz ass, and they want to compete with Russia. America is fighting with the wrong hands, so you’ll have to puff off.
  8. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 21 September 2018 17: 26
    +4
    "Moscow is unable to withstand the power of NATO."

    Yes? Is he serious? Oh well...
    I would not want to expressively express senile marasmic speech ...
    But someone smart said that once in a hundred years the West gathers forces to fight with Russia. And once in a hundred years, she snatches lyuley in full ... Is the time now?
    1. major147
      major147 21 September 2018 21: 33
      -1
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      "Moscow is unable to withstand the power of NATO."

      Yes? Is he serious? Oh well...
      I would not want to expressively express senile marasmic speech ...
      But someone smart said that once in a hundred years the West gathers forces to fight with Russia. And once in a hundred years, she snatches lyuley in full ... Is the time now?

      I have a strong feeling that as soon as it really smells of gunpowder, it will NATO drift in different directions ahead of its cry!
  9. HAM
    HAM 21 September 2018 17: 26
    +1
    "Here comes the master, the master will punish you!" --- fabulous idiots ...
  10. Conductor
    Conductor 21 September 2018 17: 28
    +4
    But what a harsh, inspired face!
  11. izya top
    izya top 21 September 2018 17: 45
    0
    on the apostrophe of such (h) blows, the sea is poured. I sometimes read it when I'm bored and I want to have fun yes
  12. Starcop
    Starcop 21 September 2018 17: 45
    +2
    Here Russia is making global plans and increasing weapons .. And this pure Bandera-farmer for this meadow perezhivaet..Byla outskirts and remained! But after the collapse of the USSR, they left the lion's share of the legacy of the technogological, and how many modern weapons are in warehouses?
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 21 September 2018 20: 11
      0
      Quote: Starkop
      And this pure water, a Bandera-farmer worries about this meadow .. Was outskirts and remained!

      Robyatyyy !!! Pity the wretched grandpa !!! Well, are you spreading it like that? He sacredly believes in the mantra of his commander in chief, that they are in Muscovites in the Stone Age !!!! So he believed in this NATA as Thomas the unbeliever putting his fingers into the wounds of Christ .......
      1. Starcop
        Starcop 21 September 2018 20: 48
        0
        Quote: sso-250659
        Robyatyyy !!! Pity the wretched grandpa !!!

        Well, Duc’s grandchildren remained and the grandfathers were evil ... Khrushchev regretted them, but left 58 of us ..
        Now is St. George’s Day ..
        1. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 21 September 2018 21: 10
          +1
          Dear Starkop! Hello. Do not take my irony for pure pity. Bring fate to converge in a clean field one on one, would have beaten this infection as the last reptile. I remember Khrushchev and the stories of my neighbor Artillery Major Vorobyov Alexander Kuzmich (who came from Lviv to Stalingrad and back to Vienna) about his post-war service in Western Ukraine and what Bandera was doing there ....
      2. major147
        major147 21 September 2018 21: 35
        0
        Quote: sso-250659
        Quote: Starkop
        And this pure water, a Bandera-farmer worries about this meadow .. Was outskirts and remained!

        Robyatyyy !!! Pity the wretched grandpa !!! Well, are you spreading it like that? He sacredly believes in the mantra of his commander in chief, that they are in Muscovites in the Stone Age !!!! So he believed in this NATA as Thomas the unbeliever putting his fingers into the wounds of Christ .......

        Yes, there, most likely, against the background of general impoverishment, they gave my grandfather a penny, ordered so to speak. "Exped"!
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 22 September 2018 08: 51
          0
          Quote: major147
          Quote: sso-250659
          Quote: Starkop
          And this pure water, a Bandera-farmer worries about this meadow .. Was outskirts and remained!

          Robyatyyy !!! Pity the wretched grandpa !!! Well, are you spreading it like that? He sacredly believes in the mantra of his commander in chief, that they are in Muscovites in the Stone Age !!!! So he believed in this NATA as Thomas the unbeliever putting his fingers into the wounds of Christ .......

          Yes, there, most likely, against the background of general impoverishment, they gave my grandfather a penny, ordered so to speak. "Exped"!

          Greetings hi . Don’t tell me, if they had given him soap and a rope, then I’m sure that his brains would have earned objectively, and he would sincerely and intelligibly talk about it, making it clear to everyone that he had nothing to do with it.
  13. kriten
    kriten 21 September 2018 17: 48
    0
    The Ukrainian epidemic - how many survived the mind. Who will get involved because of the pan-head ???? If only Gribasukayte with the Poles send their fleet. old...
    1. major147
      major147 21 September 2018 21: 38
      -1
      Quote: kriten
      The Ukrainian epidemic - how many survived the mind. Who will get involved because of the pan-head ???? If only Gribasukayte with the Poles send their fleet. old...


      Well, maybe this one.
      1. major147
        major147 21 September 2018 21: 40
        0

        And these will be covered from the air.
  14. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 21 September 2018 17: 53
    0
    He would have said so bluntly that he wants to earn money at PMCs and if anything, the bags are packed.
  15. sabakina
    sabakina 21 September 2018 17: 56
    -1
    The North Atlantic Alliance will take action and stand up for Kiev if Russia's behavior in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov does not change.
    I understand that someone "Oh, how early you are tired of living" ... (c) Truffaldino from Bergamo 2 series.
  16. HMR333
    HMR333 21 September 2018 18: 13
    +1
    ))) there are enough bastions to plow the whole sea))) which NATO ....
  17. Kerensky
    Kerensky 21 September 2018 18: 14
    +3
    Yeah! They have already stood up for Georgia. What helped her there, do not remind? Toilet paper? You won’t be sent this either.
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 21 September 2018 18: 15
    +1
    Kindergarten threats. So you can hear "But I will call my older brother (uncle, dad ...) and he will nag you!"
  19. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 21 September 2018 18: 27
    -1
    First we will win back the Donbass, and then the turn of Crimea will come, I am sure the pensioner

    Presumably, Dedugan will seize the yellow-blakporn ensign and carry him ahead of the Ukrainian troops advancing on the Crimea.
    1. japs
      japs 21 September 2018 18: 45
      0
      But I’m wondering where this general veteran, if he illegally stole secrets from African tribes with illegal? It is not typical that dill, but without a single medal or badge ...
  20. midshipman
    midshipman 21 September 2018 18: 42
    0
    Well, erysipelas, Head of radish up, as they said at the factories of the USSR Ministry of Radioprom in Khmelnitsky. And there were two factories that produced receiver indicators and space products. Why did we all create there?
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 21 September 2018 19: 13
      0
      Quote: midshipman
      and factories of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry in Khmelnitsky

      These factories have long been gone. There is a vegetable storehouse in the former workshops at Kation, and Novator produces water meters in just one workshop.
  21. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 21 September 2018 19: 09
    0
    Snobel is characteristic of him. She asks him to smack. When will we raise the question of the return of Ukraine to the borders of 1918? And all questions will disappear by themselves! Why is our Foreign Ministry chewing snot? Waiting for the Nazis to gain strength near by? ! 941 did not teach anything?
  22. Jerk
    Jerk 21 September 2018 19: 13
    0
    In terms of GDP per capita, Ukraine is in last place per capita, who are you going to overtake? Russia? You Tribaltic Extinctions first overtake. In 2014 they laughed, calling you Tsegabon, so that Gabon overtook you a long time ago. For example, 4G connection in Ukraine? No, and never will be, in Gabon since 2015. And the transition to a new communication standard encourages the development of the market by about 10-15%, you understand how deep you are .... Egr-ehm?
    1. Antares
      Antares 21 September 2018 21: 49
      0
      Quote: Jerk
      so that Gabon overtook you a long time

      Gabon is higher and the Russian Federation ...
      Quote: Jerk
      For example, 4G connection in Ukraine? No, and never will be, in Gabon since 2015. And the transition to a new communication standard encourages the development of the market by about 10-15%, you understand how deep you are .... Egr-ehm?

      Thank you, apparently this year 10-15% of ours ..
      https://www.mobua.net/maps/?pos=48,31,6
      On the interactive map you can see 4G from the largest operators of Ukraine.
      Vodafone alone over 20 cities

      lifecell stated that the operator will expand 4G operation in 232 settlements of Ukraine.
      As for the Kyivstar company, the operator is also launching mobile internet using 4G (LTE) technology in the 1800 MHz range. But on July 1, this will happen only on the territory of Kiev. Over the next two days, the company wants to test how this technology works. And already from July 3, 4G in the 1800 MHz band will appear in Odessa and resorts, on July 5 - in Lviv and its environs.
      Ukraine is indeed the last in Europe to connect the 3rd and 4th generation. It is more expensive. And the frequencies are busy.
      Gabon is not the poorest African country. Everyone just liked the expression, but
      However,
      The gross domestic product of a tiny state in terms of each of the islanders (this is how the indicator is calculated) is $ 8. A huge Russia with millions of people and huge natural resources has only a little more, $ 410 per person. And the inhabitants of small African Gabon live on $ 8 a year better than the Russians - their per capita GDP is $ 447. However, collectively, these countries are significantly lower than even the global average GDP per earthling, which in 134 amounted to 8 dollars
      .
      1. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 22 September 2018 06: 00
        +3
        Something you say, according to the IMF list, Russia is on the 48th place in the world with 27834 dollars (slightly higher than Greece), and Ukraine is on the 114th place, with 8714 dollars ... Continue to trust Peter !!!
  23. LeonidL
    LeonidL 21 September 2018 19: 15
    0
    All these retired boys in one tune are buzzing "The West will help us ...", probably Ilf and Petrov have not read, which is a pity. Contagion, NATO will rise up with its breasts to seize usih ugly Saker Falcons! Open your mouth wider - a free dumpling will fly in. The West will contact Russia because of its inaudible henchmen, poorly trained warriors, the corrupt heirs of Bandera and Hitler ... Now, they fled.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 21 September 2018 20: 06
      0
      Quote: LeonidL
      Infectious, NATO breastfeeding will rise up with usih ugly little baloboliv!
      Yeah !!! Here right shazzzzz ran !!! That's right, shazzzzz, behind their back with all his weakly strong breasts and will get up !!!!!!
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 21 September 2018 19: 52
    +1
    Yes. We remember the Crimea. With the Red Banner, under the Ukrainian anthem and even with the cries of America with us. You have a split personality .... mat.
  25. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 21 September 2018 20: 41
    +1
    Well yes. For Georgia did not fit, for Ukraine will fit. Yeah.
  26. razved
    razved 21 September 2018 20: 49
    0
    After such a speech, you can give 99% that NATO will not go anywhere.
  27. Waldemar
    Waldemar 21 September 2018 21: 18
    0
    What a punishment! They all have their faces miserable! I want to rinse my eyes.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 21 September 2018 21: 28
    0
    "Ukraine will achieve this within five to six years, raising the standard of living above Russian.

    If anyone raises the standard of living above the Russian, or even European, then it is the authorities in Ukraine. And the people will further go down to Somalia and Yemen
  29. Antares
    Antares 21 September 2018 21: 59
    -1
    therefore, for now, it is necessary to increase sanctions against Crimea so that it becomes clear to everyone that "life is better in Ukraine than in Crimea." Ukraine will achieve this within five to six years, raising the standard of living above Russian.

    Well, theoretically it is possible if the level is higher, then without war everything can be returned. But so far there has not been much growth, and we have almost no oil and gas. And our government has the same partners as in the Russian Federation. The same sewed but without resources.
    The level they are only on paper can be.
  30. Tiger
    Tiger 21 September 2018 22: 40
    +1
    to make it clear to everyone that "life is better in Ukraine than in Crimea". Ukraine will achieve this within five to six years, raising the standard of living above Russian.

    Here is the pearl !!! Rzhunimagu)))) Even by speeding up the number of different economic indicators leaving Ukraine and cleverly calculating different economic indicators, Kiev can now achieve a hundred years and achieve and achieve ... most importantly, do not kill yourself ... Because in 5-10 years the problem will arise of a growing saucepan young generations to which the Motherland is not already known, and the country will not be within those borders, and the example of parents who received specifically on the head for the Maydown of 2014 will be remembered for a long time with tears ... and neither the profession, nor modern education, nor motivation will be completely ! Plus, the economy itself will be blown away to the plinth and will require basic elementary elements - labor, energy, investment and their competent distribution (and not afford it)!
  31. Tiger
    Tiger 21 September 2018 22: 45
    +3
    Quote: Antares
    And our government has the same partners as in the Russian Federation. The same sewed but without resources.
    The level they are only on paper can be.

    If in Ukraine the government, at least by 10%, were like in Russia, the people would not have felled from the country, but on the contrary, Ukrainians would return from different countries; the external debt of the state would not grow with a stone on its neck, but strive for 0; the country's territory would not decrease, but would grow ... well, and further on the list of achievements of the Government of the Russian Federation! The main thing for this - Ukrainians themselves to appoint members of the government and the planning of Ukraine to develop themselves in Ukraine ...
  32. Klingon
    Klingon 21 September 2018 23: 41
    +1
    Ta nehai gawkaye, the dog barks and the caravan goes
  33. Jerk
    Jerk 21 September 2018 23: 49
    +1
    Quote: Antares
    Vodafone alone over 20 cities

    AND! Launch? In July 2018? wassat Just 3 years behind Gabon - well done! It’s just that at a government meeting in 2014 wild dill branched that 4 G will never be in the country - 5G will be delivered immediately. And now they’ve opened it, of course, they don’t even take it in the Kiev metro, but it’s all the same.
    https://delo.ua/business/pochemu-4g-razvivaetsja-v-ukraine-tak-medlenno-343784/
  34. Rzzz
    Rzzz 22 September 2018 00: 17
    +2
    The background in the studio is interesting. To the left of the grandfather is an illustration of how Ukrainian motor boats will liberate the Sea of ​​Azov. A hole similar in size to a track from a three-inch shell. And inert.
  35. Disorder
    Disorder 22 September 2018 02: 28
    0
    But it was not necessary to capture the trawler and threatened to blow up the bridge. Here are our boats and they check whether it’s simple fishermen or dill, they again conceived muck.
  36. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 September 2018 06: 06
    0
    ... the next wedding vaguely frowns the remains of eyebrows ... stupidity now in price, at ukrokakli ...
  37. Skif83
    Skif83 22 September 2018 12: 58
    0
    For the general intelligence, he is too much blah blah ....
  38. ltc22A
    ltc22A 22 September 2018 19: 21
    0
    And probably he did get education in the USSR. Where do such g ..... s come from?
    The "Polish" virus progresses all-round. Honor bliiin.