For the first time in Russia. Canceled election results of the governor of Primorsky Krai

The regional electoral commission of Primorye canceled the election results in the region. Recall that the scandal erupted after the announcement of the results of the vote. If after processing the 96 with more than one percent of the ballots, the leadership was retained by the candidate for governor from the CPRF with a margin of more than 3,5%, at the last moment the candidate from United Russia was declared the winner. At the same time, the data turned out to be such that on a number of polling stations all 100% of voters voted for the unicorn.

The results (announced by the regional electoral commission) of Andrei Tarasenko (“ER”) - 49,55%, Andrei Ishchenko (KPRF) - 48,06%.

The CEC commission left for Primorye, and after some time the chairman of the CEC Ella Pamfilova urged the regional electoral commission to cancel the results of the second round of elections due to numerous violations.

From the message of the Chairman of the Primorye Regional Election Committee, which leads Interfax:

The election results can not be considered reliable. The regional election commission takes into account that significant violations of voting may serve as a basis for declaring elections illegal. Based on the above, I propose to adopt the following decision: to declare the election results invalid.

12 members of the Primorsky Krai electoral committee from 13 voted for the cancellation. One spoke against.

The cancellation of election results in Russia took place for the first time.

Earlier it became known that Andrei Tarasenko, having changed his opinion several times, eventually declared that he was not ready to participate in the repeat elections of the governor of Primorye.

Comments

[aszzz888]

The results (announced by the regional electoral commission) of Andrei Tarasenko (“ER”) - 49,55%, Andrei Ishchenko (KPRF) - 48,06%.

..for that they fought, they ran into it ... and at the same time threw people to the fullest ...

[K-612-O]

Who and whom threw, if the elections did not recognize?

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The consequences of erroneous decisions to raise the retirement age and VAT. The people are very embittered, in fact, the standard of living has been falling for the fifth year.

[Bull Terrier]

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

[SSR]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

Just do not substitute!
All sanctions and Skripnye including - spit.
But when the VAT is raised, such as more money is needed in the budget, gasoline is raised quietly ... in fact, it’s ripped off at the expense of honest people.
Take Sochi, you know that there are routes, bus drivers do not issue tickets (you must insist on demanding directly), this is all past the budget, in Adler, 70% of outlets do not break checks ..... and so on the chain (as on plot for IZHS stands 5-storey building?) although by law there are restrictions ....
But the government decided it was easier, why think and work.
In general, you should not engage in the substitution of concepts.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: SSR

All sanctions and Skripnye including - spit.

Said a parking guard with the formation of 8 classes

[SSR]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: SSR

All sanctions and Skripnye including - spit.

Said a parking guard with the formation of 8 classes

Director of a parking lot with an 18-year education, can you influence the sanctions imposed on the Skripals case? Repent and Influence! I can't because I don't give a damn.

[Barzha]

Repent

And it will be like with Libya. For a long time they did not "admit" to financing the terrorist attack on the plane. Well, there were some sanctions there. About nothing ... Then they said that, they say, yes, there was a sin. And off we go !!! Here are the full sanctions for you! And if you don't hand over the organizers, get more! Gave it away? Okay! But we will strengthen the sanctions even more. you yourself admitted that you are guilty and therefore should be punished!

[SSR]

Quote: Barzha

Repent

And it will be like with Libya. For a long time they did not "admit" to financing the terrorist attack on the plane. Well, there were some sanctions there. About nothing ... Then they said that, they say, yes, there was a sin. And off we go !!! Here are the full sanctions for you! And if you don't hand over the organizers, get more! Gave it away? Okay! But we will strengthen the sanctions even more. you yourself admitted that you are guilty and therefore should be punished!

Why are you writing this to me?
Write to Romanov, he studied at school for 18 years, I'm only 8.
Personally, I wrote that sanctions spit out and about the substitution of concepts.
We are talking about electoral violations and the topic is being trolled by "sanctions".

[Barzha]

Why are you writing this to me?

In support of you!

We are talking about electoral violations and the topic is being trolled by "sanctions".

We have a group of people who have only one thing on their minds. And no matter what is discussed, they will always fit in with their "theme"! "Who's talking about what, and lousy all about the bath", in short ...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: SSR

All sanctions and Skripnye including - spit.

Said a parking guard with the formation of 8 classes

Very fun, but not very witty. And I'll try to reduce the intensity of the fun. When I and other commentators write about the inevitability of turmoil in Russia, you (admirers of the "genius" of VVP) often have fun too. And how often write - we are not Ukraine. I even, about a month ago, pointed out the possible start of the active phase of the Troubles - spring 2019. I do not want to repeat the reasons for the unrest, I personally, as well as other critics of the current government, have repeatedly indicated these reasons. And we also pointed to similar processes in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation. Well, I want to inform you that from the phase, let's say the theoretical one, the troubles began to pass into the preparatory (in the practical plane), after which there will be active actions. What am I talking about? And here it is about this: "Volunteer project" Database. Everyone will answer "collects information about security officials who illegally used force during protests. The goal is to exercise civilian control over law enforcement agencies." About the Russian analogue of the site peacemaker. If someone does not understand himself, I will gladly explain. On the hope of the authorities - they are going to dress the siloviki, sorry for the expression "muzzle", so that the protesters are not strongly pressed. And they knew that their names were known, and therefore they were careful. Doesn't it remind you of anything? Yes, of course, this will all be illegal and some, especially violent and not careful, will be closed. But what gets on the Internet will already remain there and the security forces will already know that they have taken them on a pencil. Who wants to (especially from Putin's fans) can continue to humor: some volunteers, where will I get the information? Who usually stands behind the volunteers, look at Ukraine, and some comrades from among the security forces themselves will give the data (for various reasons). I think Putin will also have his Lyovochkins. Why is this? Namely, preparation for the active phase. When it starts, so that the security forces are not too zealous. Maybe this is the creation of such a base, an accident or not serious? In life, of course, anything can be. But if the stars are lit, then someone needs it. And here the question is all the more serious (smacks of criminal liability for some and unforeseen circumstances for others). In this regard, I keep thinking about AUE. The movement is spreading across the regions. The authorities are trying not to notice this phenomenon, they are not actively fighting. Maybe the government's project to put pressure on the population? Or maybe just the formation of brigades to counter the security forces in the active phase? The ideology in AUE is just right. Some Russian "Lyovochkin" may be covering. And I also want to say that the creation of such a base and the beginning of the active phase cannot differ much in time. I think half a year, maximum a year, otherwise the security officials will have time to get used to it and will stop paying attention to it. And you, gentlemen zaputintsy, humor further. It is still possible.

[K-612-O]

It is only necessary to take into account that the security forces are protecting these "protest actions" from civil reprisals against "activists". You don't think that many of these shareholders are fed up, to put it mildly.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: K-612-O

It is only necessary to take into account that the security forces are protecting these "protest actions" from civil reprisals against "activists". You don't think that many of these shareholders are fed up, to put it mildly.

First, a little theory. When critics and haters of the USSR indicate that the Bolsheviks in October 1917 did not have mass love among the people, this is true. Rather, part of the truth. Because such critics bashfully hold back that there were even fewer people who loved the tsar and were ready to fight the Bolsheviks for tsarism. Just the active majority was on the side of the Bolsheviks, and the bulk of the population was not going to participate in anything. What we ourselves saw in Ukraine. This is a theory. Now to your comment. Do you really seriously believe that while the actions against the current government are taking place (it doesn’t matter under whose banner, Navalny, Udaltsov or others), at least the same, or even more, are nearby indignant opponents of the rally, only dreaming of meeting with the protesters in hand-to-hand fighting for Putin and the authorities? And the siloviki are fighting between two fires, separating these masses with their chests (did they present a picture?). If so, then I am deeply grateful to you. Because with your commentary, if you seriously think that security officials are protecting protests from indignant citizens, you have demonstrated an inadequate perception of reality (otherwise point out examples where you saw such events), and for which I repeatedly criticize the current government. But there, Putin's fans, if at odds with real affairs, refer to the KhPP, but here what will you refer to? A person, and even more so a power that does not assess what is happening is adequately dangerous. Power is of course an order of magnitude. That is why the country will be in turmoil, the last steps and statements by the authorities look clearly inadequate.

[Bull Terrier]

I have no substitute for a clue. I say how it is. And your examples of breaking the law by especially cunning entrepreneurs, this is another indicator that, as you say, ordinary people are also rushing everything that is badly pinned !!! And pearl before.

[AUL]

Quote: SSR

In general, you should not engage in the substitution of concepts.

Wait, he’s told you about Ukraine, he didn’t write lace shorts and gay parades!
In less than 3 weeks - already a major! Although the site does not crawl out of the big minuses. For some reason, the rating was removed, not checked ... This is since when a certain Golovan Jack disappeared from the field of view after the election (did you leave your vacation or just change your skin?). By the way, I won’t be surprised if he answers under the old nickname now.
All of the above causes some bewilderment and questions to the admins of the site. I would like to be mistaken, but it seems that they have hit a site.
Outlined somewhat chaotically, but I think it’s understandable.
PS I’m not chasing rating and paper stars - I have long since left this age.

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: AUL

.This is since when after the election a certain Golovan Jack disappeared from view (did you just leave or just change your skin?). By the way, I won’t be surprised if he answers under the old nickname now.

Alexander, he’s under the ban all the time, when he is drawn, a little flood and again under the ban

[Svarog]

Quote: AUL

In less than 3 weeks - already a major! Although the site does not crawl out of the big minuses. For some reason, they removed the rating, do not check ...

I will tell you how the propagandists of EP work and the stars get .. It's simple .. They act as an organized group, by prior agreement They are here, about 10-15 people, they put each other +, everyone else who does not shout cheers amicably minus .. It is possible that they are sitting in the same office And they do it like this .. they go into comments all in a row and everyone minuses in a row So you need to unite, well, at least support each other ..

[Mestny]

Try to get a job. Or start studying. This is much more useful than virtual dancing on the Internet. What do you want from these advantages - will it be added to your pocket? Will the family be better off ?.
Although ... I do not know, maybe you get paid for it. There are such.

[AUL]

Quote: Svarog

They act as an organized group, by prior conspiracy They are here, 10-15 people, they put each other +, everyone else who does not shout cheers, amicably minus .. It is possible that they are sitting in the same office

So this diagram is visible immediately and is not in doubt. The fact that here a team of clackers from the information troops is working is visible to the naked eye. It is only perplexing that they are all in the cons, like Bobik in bursts (after all, there are most adequate people on the site), but in the ranks they are growing rapidly!

[vovanpain]

Quote: AUL

The fact that here a team of clackers from the information troops is working is visible to the naked eye

My dear man, what are you all whose opinions do not coincide with yours

Quote: AUL

All of the above causes some bewilderment and questions to the admins of the site. I would like to be mistaken, but it seems that they have hit a site.

So it seems to me that they hit a site

Everything is simple .. They act as an organized group, by prior conspiracy They are here, 10-15 people, they put each other +, everyone else,

And I’ll add from myself to those who don’t cry, they put minuses,

Quote: Svarog

It is possible that they are sitting in the same office

Sitting Vova, sitting
And our girls are led to the study.

Quote: AUL

the majority of adequate people on the site),

I agree with you, you’ve already been on the site for a long time, don’t pay attention to my retreats, it’s the politicians I like to troll of all stripes, when I served, these political leaders shouted the glory of the Communist Party louder than anyone and were the first to run to take party cards, but most of them are adequate, here you are they are right and do not call each other Zaputinians, Zagrudinins, Zazyuganovs and other Indians And they communicate by name, argue and do not impose that he is one smart, and the rest And it doesn’t matter who he is rooting for Spartak or Grudinin, we all live in one country. Sincerely, Alexander.
P.S. Minuses are welcome, pluses too

[Evil543]

Well, you, dear, sculpt minuses no less, to everyone whose point of view is neutral, or different from yours

[2329 Carpenter]

Nope ... Not in the office. We are all in my woodwork!
And is it for you to unite?
Almost under the red kumach, not with a saber, he doesn’t let down the Jews, and especially not against Putin - there are 100500 minuses and camel spits.
Take a look around.
Echo of Moscow all hands palmed off to applaud you.

[DEDPIHTO]

Echo matzo red applaud ?? However, sticky glue is joinery ..

[Mestny]

Their goals temporarily coincided - to seize power.
So why not applaud?

[DEDPIHTO]

At whom, they,? If you mean ultraliberals, Duc for them is generally a plague. Red. Your liberals are much dearer to them, they whine because of the lack of access to the feeder. I don’t seriously consider these “intellectuals”, I’ll pile them in pants before pendal. Mold, and historically ..

[kakvastam]

Quote: AUL

This is since when after the election a certain Golovan Jack disappeared from view

But men don’t know!
Here he, darling, did not disappear anywhere.

[Stas157]

Quote: kakvastam

Quote: AUL

This is since when after the election a certain Golovan Jack disappeared from view

But men don’t know!
Here he, darling, did not disappear anywhere.

Who is this? Under which nickname? He usually didn’t miss a single comment! At first Kisoy was, then Golovan and an avatar in the form of a dog. It is obvious that this offended character does not like people, but loves animals. Therefore, I wonder what kind of new reincarnation will be in Jack?

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: SSR

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

Just do not substitute!
All sanctions and Skripnye including - spit.

If you spit, so be patient. And anyway - when was the last time you personally bought government loan bonds, for example, for space development?

Quote: SSR

But when the VAT is raised, such as more money is needed in the budget, gasoline is raised quietly ... in fact, it’s ripped off at the expense of honest people.

So spit on sanctions or not spit?

Quote: SSR

Take Sochi, you know what’s on the routes, bus drivers don’t give out tickets (you have to insist on demanding directly), it's all past the budget ...

Most of the minibus drivers rent cars and use a patent or imputation. Everything that remains after settlements with the state and landlords goes into your pocket. And here the issue-non-issue of tickets and "past the budget"?

Quote: SSR

in the same Adler, 70% of outlets do not break checks .....

Most often, if the seller does not break the check, then the seller tries to steal from his employer. What does the state have to do with it?

Quote: SSR

But the government decided it was easier, why think and work.
In general, you should not engage in the substitution of concepts.

As I understand it, you are for everything good. And you are categorically against all the bad.

[SSR]

Minibus drivers

You are very attentive.
1. I wrote about routes and buses.
2. A ticket purchased for a route is also insurance in the event of an accident or other emergency.
3. How are pension and sanctions related? Revise the performance of GDP.
4. The seller does not break the check and is he cheating on the employer? !!! It is lured to deceive, all the flaw on the financially responsible seller and hang. In the case of motor depots, even worse. The driver will take part of the cash, hand over the plan, the minimum manual will break through the proceeds, the rest is in the pockets.
5. Or a private house with 5 floors and 25 rooms, without taxes, but the sewage system from such houses just stops working and it's just dangerous.
In general, do not try to shove it into the non-cramped.

[kig]

Quote: SSR

bus drivers do not issue tickets

In Vladivostok, they have been traveling in buses for 20 years now. Some, especially conscious drivers, rolls of tickets hang on the doors, you can rewind yourself at least a couple of meters. There have been repeated attempts to introduce payment by various cards, but nothing came of it - either the devices instantly break, or these cards cannot be obtained. And passengers behave anti-publicly and do not require tickets. So in the elections they voted so that nothing is clear.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

What does it all mean ?! The number of billionaires in the Russian Federation is only growing every year.

[Bull Terrier]

Well done. I want it too, but it’s not coming out yet. Successful people need to learn and not to find fault with them.

[Irek]

5+ per comment.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well done. I want it too, but it’s not coming out yet. Successful people need to learn and not to find fault with them.

Do you offer to steal?

[Bull Terrier]

Steal what? Yesterday I talked with a young guy, for 25 years already a millionaire. The essence of his work is e-commerce in short. Thanks to your brains. Or one more, we talked to him at a seminar. He is now promoting a new fast food chain, and began with a platform for restaurants where they buy food. What did they steal? There are hundreds of such examples.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Steal what? Yesterday I talked with a young guy, for 25 years already a millionaire. The essence of his work is e-commerce in short. Thanks to your brains. Or one more, we talked to him at a seminar. He is now promoting a new fast food chain, and began with a platform for restaurants where they buy food. What did they steal? There are hundreds of such examples.

There really are such examples .. but there are very few of them, basically these guys are an exception to the rule .. And a millionaire, a millionaire is different, if you are about millionaires who made themselves in Russia, then I agree with you, you need to learn from these! But there are such units and, as a rule, they have access to financial resources .. Moreover, when they make a successful business, then there are those who want to squeeze it out and there are also a lot of such examples .. And the bandits from the 90s are no longer squeezing))

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: Svarog

Moreover, when they make a successful business, then there are those who want to squeeze it out, and there are also a lot of such examples .. And the bandits from the 90s are no longer squeezing))

Yes, absolutely right! Especially if the assets are available: retail property is owned, not leased, production facilities, etc. Therefore, many businessmen try not to produce in the country, but to bring everything from China and warehouses with trade in rent, so that there is less temptation to squeeze out. Lots of examples ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Meshcheryak

Quote: Svarog

Moreover, when they make a successful business, then there are those who want to squeeze it out, and there are also a lot of such examples .. And the bandits from the 90s are no longer squeezing))

Yes, absolutely right! Especially if the assets are available: retail property is owned, not leased, production facilities, etc. Therefore, many businessmen try not to produce in the country, but to bring everything from China and warehouses with trade in rent, so that there is less temptation to squeeze out. Lots of examples ...

Or bankrupt a company and export money abroad.

[Mestny]

Not true.
There are many examples.
Another thing is that many want everything at once and for no reason. They were told that this is how officials in power live. Well, that is, you have to plant such a man instead of an official - and he will drink, eat for his own pleasure, and he will also be paid the money. Then, from his point of view, justice will come.
And to work? No, why should he. Over on the Internet it is written that the government does not work, but is eating. And he wants it that way.
At the same time, there is no concept that to "get into power" - you need to have brains, and persistently use them for many years. And this - lo and behold - is also work, and what a job.

[AUL]

Quote: Mestny

At the same time, there is no concept that to "get into power" - you need to have brains, and persistently use them for many years. And this - lo and behold - is also work, and what a job.

To steal is also work, and you must be able to!

[kakvastam]

Quote: Mestny

And this - lo and behold - is also work, and even what.

To sit and do nothing, one must sit very high.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Bull Terrier

Steal what? Yesterday I talked with a young guy, for 25 years already a millionaire. The essence of his work is e-commerce in short. Thanks to your brains. Or one more, we talked to him at a seminar. He is now promoting a new fast food chain, and began with a platform for restaurants where they buy food. What did they steal? There are hundreds of such examples.

There really are such examples .. but there are very few of them, basically these guys are an exception to the rule .. And a millionaire, a millionaire is different, if you are about millionaires who made themselves in Russia, then I agree with you, you need to learn from these! But there are such units and, as a rule, they have access to financial resources .. Moreover, when they make a successful business, then there are those who want to squeeze it out and there are also a lot of such examples .. And the bandits from the 90s are no longer squeezing))

For Internet platforms, access to finance is not needed, but about business depletion - this is when incomes start to exceed $ 2 million a year ($ 10 million a month + -), then it all starts. You can fight back, but it also costs money, even when dating.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Svarog

There really are such examples .. but there are very few of them, basically these guys are an exception to the rule .. And a millionaire, a millionaire is different, if you are about millionaires who made themselves in Russia, then I agree with you, you need to learn from these! But such units and as a rule they have access to financial resources ..

Yes, Vladimir, you are absolutely right, 100%. Becoming a millionaire is not a mass social movement. A millionaire is a piece. He is always unique. But there is a powerful mass social movement "Why am I not a millionaire." They have colossal theoretical groundwork. A distinctive feature of these theories is the postulate "I am not to blame for anything. External factors are to blame for everything (the list is endless)".
Although, in fact, most people couldn’t get rich, just get a little rich, rise financially above their level, for one simple reason - BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING. They had previously found reasons for themselves not to do anything, not to try.

[AUL]

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

Although, in fact, most people couldn’t get rich, just get a little rich, rise financially above their level, for one simple reason - BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING. They had previously found reasons for themselves not to do anything, not to try.

Nikolay, please tell me, are you a millionaire or didn’t you do anything either?

[kakvastam]

Quote: Bull Terrier

What did they steal? There are hundreds of such examples.

The difference between a millionaire (even in dollars this is not a very rich person) and a billionaire who received his assets as a gift from the state and continues to get rich at his expense due to his proximity to power, is quite significant.
You really do not see her, or just pretend to be?

[2329 Carpenter]

For more than stealing, people do not have enough brains. They measure everything by themselves, which is clearly seen in the comments.
They do not know how to earn money with their own brains, hands, or both, and do not want to.

[Claymore]

Quote: Bull Terrier

What did they steal?

Additional cost.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well done. I want it too, but it’s not coming out yet. Successful people need to learn and not to find fault with them.

Do you offer to steal?

Has Kaspersky stole a lot? And he is a dollar billionaire, by the way.

[Freeman]

Krasnodar Today, 12: 31
Has Kaspersky stole a lot? And he is a dollar billionaire, by the way.

It looks like he got sick and decided to stick to the budget.

The Ministry of Communications proposes two years later to introduce the mandatory preinstallation of domestic antivirus software on computers imported into Russia.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3745820

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Freeman

Krasnodar Today, 12: 31
Has Kaspersky stole a lot? And he is a dollar billionaire, by the way.

It looks like he got sick and decided to stick to the budget.

The Ministry of Communications proposes two years later to introduce the mandatory preinstallation of domestic antivirus software on computers imported into Russia.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3745820

You would have the opportunity as a businessman — would you refuse? )) I would not.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

successful people need to learn and not fault them

This you write to those who have enough brains, only to take away and share.

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Bull Terrier

successful people need to learn and not fault them

This you write to those who have enough brains, only to take away and share.

Romanov is just to take away and divide - this is what has been happening for the last 20 years and there are a lot of examples of this .. Galitsky is the last major example .. In general, to list and list .. It is enough to look at the Russian billionaires to understand who and how earned money, just look at their history .. Everything is banal .. Billionaires in Russia are people close to the authorities, or relatives or childhood friends, as well as regional leaders, that is, officials, as well as "former" security officials .. We do not have billionaires who made a fortune with their minds, if you have, give examples .. They do everything through corruption, theft of the budget, they even squeeze out even middle-class entrepreneurs, it has come to this ..

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Bull Terrier

successful people need to learn and not fault them

This you write to those who have enough brains, only to take away and share.

Romanov is just to take away and divide - this is what has been happening for the last 20 years and there are a lot of examples of this .. Galitsky is the last major example .. In general, to list and list .. It is enough to look at the Russian billionaires to understand who and how earned money, just look at their history .. Everything is banal .. Billionaires in Russia are people close to the authorities, or relatives or childhood friends, as well as regional leaders, that is, officials, as well as "former" security officials .. We do not have billionaires who made a fortune with their minds, if you have, give examples .. They do everything through corruption, theft of the budget, they even squeeze out even middle-class entrepreneurs, it has come to this ..

And what about Galitsky? It grew faster than Galitsky earned, so he agreed to sell Thunder. Now everything is funnier there - Pyaterochka’s directorate was lured into Magnit, and the Tanderovtsy went to Friedman))

[kakvastam]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

This is you writingиthose who have enough brains

Good advice.
I'm afraid you yourself do not understand what you are writing.

[SERGUS]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I want it too, but it’s not coming out yet. Successful people need to learn and not to find fault with them.

Just do not confuse successful people with successful thieves, otherwise instead of Bill Gates and Ilon Maskov, we have only Chubais.

[Mestny]

Does Bill Gates rightly share a piece of bread with his co-workers? These are the wonders of capitalism ...

[reservist]

I will not argue about fairness, but MicroSoft employees (not only directors who are "celestials", but also ordinary "mortals") have shares in the company, i.e. people seem to be interested in the development of the business in which they work ...

[kakvastam]

Quote: Mestny

Does Bill Gates rightly share a piece of bread with his co-workers?

Take an interest in the amounts of his tax deductions.
If our nouveau riche paid taxes this way, the situation in the country would be radically different.

[SERGUS]

Quote: Mestny

These are the wonders of capitalism ...

This is not about capitalism, communism and the exploitation of human labor, it is about the fact that "successful people" (rich in another word) become such in different ways: someone by earning money, and someone by stealing it.

[kakvastam]

Quote: SERGUS

instead of the Bill Gates and the Ilon Maskov, we have only Chubais.

You will still laugh at yourself, but Gates and Musk differ little from Chubais in the sense of "overwork". It is naive children who are presented with lacquered fairy tales in gold leaf, the reality is much cruder.

[SERGUS]

Quote: kakvastam

You will still laugh at yourself, but Gates and Musk differ little from Chubais in the sense of "overwork".

It’s not about who worked harder, it’s about the fact that Gates created a new one, and Chubais appropriated someone else’s, roughly speaking. I do not deny that in order to steal something, one must also work hard

[Mestny]

Yes, this is how the official history of this personification of the American dream speaks a little about something else. Namely - if he created, then a little and at the very initial stage. And even that - there are discrepancies.
And so, as usual - successfully bought cheaply. And extremely skillfully it sold expensively and a lot.

[SERGUS]

Quote: Mestny

Yes, this is how the official history of this personification of the American dream speaks a little about something else. Namely - if he created, then a little and at the very initial stage.

Well, yes, that’s probably why giant companies are born in America, and we have Rusnano

[AA17]

Dear Bull Terrier. What to learn ??? Most of the "successful people" have built their business on working with budget money or on the extraction of natural resources, with their subsequent sale abroad. And the children of these successful people are also talented in business. In my environment there is not a single example that someone "from scratch" and "without connections" has risen to the level of a millionaire.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

That's right. In addition, I do not understand people who believe the Communists in suits from Isaiah and Brioni.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

-1
The consequences of erroneous decisions to raise the retirement age and VAT. The people are very embittered, in fact, the standard of living has been falling for the fifth year.

When the sanctions were imposed, you all wrote, “Nothing, we’ll kill ourselves with sausage and black bread. If we need to tighten our belts.” What did you want to eat?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

What did you want to eat?

How can you not recall the summer of 1917 and the slogan in the trenches "Everything ... They were nailed ... Bayonet into the ground and - home ..."
Hi Sasha!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Hi Sasha!

Healthy prophet. - I feel tomorrow will be a broken Lexus.

Quote: stalkerwalker

"Everything ... We were hovering ... Bayonet into the ground and - home

And first they shouted, All to the front. Bolshevism does not change, like shit so immediately into the bushes

[Svarog]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

-1
The consequences of erroneous decisions to raise the retirement age and VAT. The people are very embittered, in fact, the standard of living has been falling for the fifth year.

When the sanctions were imposed, you all wrote, “Nothing, we’ll kill ourselves with sausage and black bread. If we need to tighten our belts.” What did you want to eat?

Yes, the people would tighten their belts if the officials, headed by the guarantor, also tightened their belts and pursue a socially oriented policy rather than robbery .. Do you want the people to go hungry and the officials go to the golden toilets? Our people are smarter than you think ..

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

-1
The consequences of erroneous decisions to raise the retirement age and VAT. The people are very embittered, in fact, the standard of living has been falling for the fifth year.

When the sanctions were imposed, you all wrote, “Nothing, we’ll kill ourselves with sausage and black bread. If we need to tighten our belts.” What did you want to eat?

Yes, the people would tighten their belts if the officials, headed by the guarantor, also tightened their belts and pursue a socially oriented policy rather than robbery .. Do you want the people to go hungry and the officials go to the golden toilets? Our people are smarter than you think ..

In the hungry post-war years, Comrade Stalin loved night banquets. With comrades. Here the function of mentality, and not the quality of power.

[kakvastam]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

When the sanctions were imposed, you all wrote

Yap.
However, for a paid propagandist this is a clear plus.

[den3080]

I do not see the bitterness of the people from the pension reform. He talked with many people, not on purpose, but in life. Young people and the elderly (pensioners) on the drum, 40-50 years old are more humorous. All the same, many people want and will work (the majority) even after they reach retirement age, so people don’t see much difference.
Or in another way. Nobody is going to sit at home, on the contrary, they are worried that now they are trying not to hire older people or are trying to get rid of the elderly.

[Mestny]

This is true in real life.
On the Internet, everything is different.

[Narak-zempo]

Still, it’s a big difference to work and get a pension (in fact, it’s not even a pension, because it’s difficult to survive, but an allowance for seniority) or to work without it. Moreover, over the years, health does not improve, and products with medicines do not become cheaper.

[Digital error]

All the same, many want and will work (most) even after they reach retirement age

- Now it is a right, and there will be an obligation. Feel the difference? I want to drive grandchildren in 60, not work. And while I have the right to do so.

[K-612-O]

I’ll be grandchildren in my 45s. What should I retire? I have a lot of work at the enterprise for someone under and over 60, and they are not in a hurry to retire, despite their grandchildren. Each person must choose, and if you hate your job, then you will think about how to dump retire faster.

[Digital error]

Quote: K-612-O

Each person must choose, and if ...

That's exactly what it is. And not for him. And by the way - I’m sure that the capitalists will reach the siloviki and raise the bar, you will see ...

[Svarog]

Quote: den3080

I do not see the bitterness of the people from the pension reform. He talked with many people, not on purpose, but in life.

Mantras have begun .. The Kashpirovskys have come out. reassure people

[Mestny]

They tell you what real people are saying, living people. Not the ones that live on the Internet.
This virtual nation is not going to reassure anyone - let it ride on as much as you like.

[Svarog]

Quote: Mestny

They tell you what real people are saying, living people. Not the ones that live on the Internet.
This virtual nation is not going to reassure anyone - let it ride on as much as you like.

In my opinion, you confuse it .. reality with the Internet .. it is the same .. even reality is more cruel All whom I know, even those who supported Ptuin, now harshly blame this power, there is not one indifferent to the lawlessness that the aliens committed in power ... Perhaps on the sidelines of the State Duma they reason as you say

[Loess]

Quote: Svarog

Everyone I know, even those who supported Ptuin,

I supported Putin. And still support. Not entirely by his decisions I agree, but nonetheless ... And if I am not mistaken, you initially actively supported the Communist Party, then you also actively supported Grudinin, who has a very mediocre attitude to the Communist Party, and for the last couple of weeks you have supported Shevchenko. And all these changes in your views have occurred in a matter of months. You are either not too constant, or initially make your choice based on erroneous assumptions. That is, if the leader of the Communist Party would become the head of state, you would most likely begin propaganda against him within a couple of months after the election. The same thing would happen if any other candidate you supported supported the victory. You are always against, you do not care who will be in power, your position will remain unchanged.

[kakvastam]

Quote: Less

I supported Putin. And still support.

It's your right. Hope not your duty.
And the selectivity of perception is common to everyone, you are no exception.

[Loess]

Quote: Mestny

They tell you what real people are saying, living people. Not the ones that live on the Internet

They no longer understand where reality is, and where is the virtual world, they are more comfortable on the Internet.

[den3080]

Kashpirovskie is not for me))
and I worked all my life and I have grandchildren))
so I’m speaking based on my personal experience and the opinions of the people around me.
so, given the above, no one seeks to retire, but just the opposite. And there are several reasons for this:
1. material: pensions are really small, living only on retirement is very difficult.
2. Psychological: the person who left the “native” team receives some kind of mental trauma, because for most of us, work is a second home.
so as not to go into personal ... remember the film "Old robbers"

3. physical or rhythm of life: getting up early, getting in shape, eating (at least lunch) by the hour, getting enough sleep (resting) on ​​weekends and suddenly ... obana. I don’t know a single person who could easily endure such a cardinal change in the daily routine.
So gentlemen (comrades), Internet theorists, you can minus as much as you like :) my opinion will not change.
But Mr. Zyukhanov, who has become bronzed, with his shamanistic messages on the box about the grandmother of the “director of the home kindergarten” simply does not know modern grandparents ... well, or pretends he does not know, because there’s nothing to say about the red word.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

The consequences of erroneous decisions to raise the retirement age and VAT. The people are very embittered, in fact, the standard of living has been falling for the fifth year.

But we are told that everything is growing .. except for inflation - it is falling! Fertility is falling, mortality is rising, the dollar is growing, gasoline is also rising .. taxes are rising .. the age of retirement has risen ... prices are rising .. housing and communal services is growing - everything is growing! Only salaries and pensions are in place .. although not at all .. among deputies and officials is growing!

[Volodin]

Quote: K-612-O

Who and whom threw, if the elections did not recognize?

Yes, all those who, unlike the others, found the time and honestly went to fulfill their civic duty on Sunday. These, the most conscientious people, were spat in the face with fraud. And now they (the electoral commissioners) "well done" - canceled ... And who will answer? Actually, this is a criminal article. Or, as a switchman, they will find some school music teacher from the polling station, who "scattered ballots" - the regional electoral committee itself is not in business ...

[K-612-O]

Why do people need such candidates? Then they fulfilled the duty, and to both gavriks they do not give a damn about their duty. Cancellation in this case is quite fair. And under investigation it is necessary to send both parties and their teams.

[Volodin]

These "gavrikov" were registered by the election commission. Proceeding from this - there were no other candidates, more honest, from all of Primorye?

[Piramidon]

Quote: K-612-O

Why do people need such candidates?

Well, not the candidates did the vote count. Izberkoma need to shake up and observers. At the same time, to find out from whom they received the teams to juggle the results.

[Mestny]

Firstly, it is necessary to carefully examine how well-grounded are the claims to the election.
How big is the percentage of fraud from the Communist Party in the sense of alleged violations.

[Svarog]

Quote: Volodin

And who will answer? This is actually a criminal article

Peskov- Putin will answer for fair elections!

[Digital error]

It would be better if he didn’t answer - guess later, if he was carrying a blizzard or not. And what ugg boots were on it

[aszzz888]

K-612-O (Andrey) Today, 08: 39
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Who and whom threw, if the elections did not recognize?

Andrei, the people threw the people for whom the people voted ... not the people themselves organized the rigging of facts ... but people went to the polls, believed ...

[K-612-O]

So I wrote about it below

[Mestny]

The fact of the matter is that they did not go. They listened to agitators.
Well, now there is the opportunity to go.
Many people don’t understand a simple thing: you don’t go to the polls - you don’t give your vote to anyone unknown. If you vote for your candidate / party, you greatly complicate the task of fraudsters to rig the results.
And of course, you give your candidate more chances.
Understand the representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - if the people came, your people, and voted - the advantage would not be a couple of percent, but at least 10. And this extremely complicates possible fraud, or makes them impossible at all.
All to the polls, in short.

[kakvastam]

Quote: Mestny

They listened to agitators.

I think the agitators simply indulged in personal laziness and nonsense.

Quote: Mestny

All to the polls, in short.

Certainly.
I would like to believe that people will finally stop getting caught up on tricks like "nothing depends on me", "I don’t understand the sorts of shit," and so on. But the laziness mentioned above makes this hope illusory ...

[mavrus]

It’s charming ... It’s like if in football the losing team, in the last minutes, grossly breaks the rules ... and the judges announce a replay.

[Mestny]

Well, as we know, everyone knows everything about two things - in football and in managing the country.
Everyone, without exception, knows "how to".
Your comment is not surprised.

[Doliva63]

Quote: mavrus

It’s charming ... It’s like if in football the losing team, in the last minutes, grossly breaks the rules ... and the judges announce a replay.

No. Putin's candidate from EP should not have lost. Only win. And as clean as possible so cheap Kremlin is not ready yet. He knew this, in principle, but was far behind the competitor, so he went all the way and replayed. He was hinted that he did not justify trust, for this hype does not color the Guarantor. Something like this.

[Victor_B]

Pamfilova VERY offended ...
I think that the cancellation of the results is her personal merit.
God forbid that in other regions her hands should not be twisted.
For me, the only doubt is the FULL cancellation of the results and the appointment of elections from scratch, with the nomination of candidates.
It was easier to cancel in these 32 areas. But it’s just to recognize the victory of the communist.
They could not go for it.
But now the probability of victory of edross is minimal.

[kakvastam]

Quote: Victor_B

But now the probability of victory of edross is minimal.

With a small amendment: specifically it...

[Svarog]

Quote: K-612-O

Who and whom threw, if the elections did not recognize?

In general, when ultra liberals are at the helm, when they have all the finances in their hands, there will not be much effect on who will lead this or that region .. Even if the Communists win, it will be very difficult in the capitalist system and limited financial resources to do something .. The region needs money, but decides to give / not to give the ultra liberal .. of course he will redistribute the money so that the Communists don’t get anything, but he will receive United Russia, a friend and comrade who will also share .. And then they will shout amicably, here the communists came and nothing good and it didn’t work out ... Therefore, of course, it would be necessary for the head of state to be people of leftist ideas ..

[APIS]

Insolent, that’s substituted.
Ella will no longer be praising observers.

[aszzz888]

APIS (Eulampius) Today, 08: 39
+1
Insolent, that’s substituted.
Ella will no longer be praising observers.

... and if we take into account that in the majority of electoral districts there were video cameras - the ELECTED fears were lost forever ...

[Mestny]

Observers are just from the parties of the elected candidates. From the Communist Party on a mandatory basis.
If the Communist Party wants to win, observers must be appointed more carefully.
But the impression is that they just don’t want to win. Only harm the current government.
By the way, the picture is familiar with the Communist Party, this is not the first time.

[kjhg]

What do you write all sorts of crap about the Communist Party comment by comment? They, observers from the Communist Party, just recorded all those violations, because of which these criminals in power, who organized this lawlessness with falsifications, WAS FORCED to cancel the voting results, since the scandal had already taken an all-Russian scale. Everyone knows that a few days before the election, the United Russia candidate met with the president, where Putin said he did not doubt his victory. The authorities took this as a direct order to do everything so that the candidate from the ruling party would win. The entire administrative machine, including the security forces, was launched. But the people were still not completely blind and saw all this chaos. In the most insolent manner, the victory of the candidate from the Communist Party was stolen and now they want to appoint re-elections and nominate another candidate from United Russia. My opinion is that all the heads of the TECs where there were violations, the United Russia candidate as the organizer of this lawlessness, the police who watched these sites, the head of the Primorye election commission should go to jail, and Pamfilova should resign.

[kakvastam]

Quote: kjhg

Pamfilova must resign

Give Churov to the kingdom!

[Mestny]

Quote: kjhg

What do you write all sorts of crap about the Communist Party comment by comment? They, observers from the Communist Party, just recorded all those violations, because of which these criminals in power, who organized this mess with falsifications, WAS FORCED to cancel the voting results,

I have been directly involved in the elections for about 20 years. I was also an observer, by the way from the Communist Party, Then a member of the commission with an advisory vote, now I am the chairman of the PEC.
How it works, I know 100%.
What do you know?
Well, except for Internet chants?
Did you participate in the process? At least he just went to the polls?

Why am I writing about the Communist Party?
So everything is simple - the candidate from the Communist Party butted the candidate from EP. The Communist Party expresses disagreement with the election results. And we are all actively discussing this together.
And personally to me, personally, I want to convey to the Communist Party the wish: it is necessary either to remove the cross. or wear panties.
Well, that is, if you really want to win - select worthy, respected candidates by the people, work with people, help them. Demonstrate with real deeds what exactly are capable of making the life of people in the country better than it is now.
Do you have money for this? There is.

[uav80]

Quote: aszzz888

and at the same time threw people to the fullest ...

Why they threw it, those who went and gave their vote for the loot, once again scholit and will receive the loot again ..))))

Plus, those who sat on the plots and in commissions go to work again, no matter how they also sit there for free, there is a normal payment there, given that you spend only 2 days on it ...

[dvina71]

Quote: uav80

Why they threw it, those who went down and gave their vote for the loot,

What loot? Why is it spent when there is influence on the polling station .. Most of the people did not come to the elections .., and from such a number of potential votes it is possible to collect the "necessary" number of voters.

[Mestny]

It is true that the possibility of fraud increases greatly with the number of non-voting citizens in general.
Well look.
More than 4% provoked a reaction - the elections were declared invalid.
Agree, to carry out any type of large-scale fraud is much less likely.
That is - go vote, let as a result of your efforts the advantage will be for example 20%.
I assure you, no one of our current authorities, whatever it may not be able to rig this result.
Are the leaders of the Communist Party able to give such motivation to voters? - certainly capable.
Will they do it? - no, they will not do.
Conclusion?

[K-612-O]

And what kind of payment is it? My spouse also sat in the commission and was an observer from the voice and was independent too. Something they never paid a damn.

[Mestny]

The employer is responsible for paying for the work of observers, in this case the party or candidate concerned.
If "she was in the commission" - then she was a member of the commission. In this case, the state pays, how much is there per hour. In different regions, and in elections at different levels in different ways.
You should imagine that the work is not too easy - on voting day more than 12 hours without a break, and exit voting, if any. Plus, the commission members have additional responsibilities before the election, for example, delivery of election invitations to addresses. Which in rural areas is sometimes a real problem.
Well, of course responsibility. In case of violation of the law, all members of the commission will suffer - their signatures are under the final protocol.
And observers from parties, especially from the Communist Party and Yabloko, sometimes try their best to come up with such a violation, to come up with it. Often and provocations of all kinds.
Because according to the law, for example, 1 (one) extra ballot in the ballot box is enough to invalidate the results of the elections at the polling station and hold all the participants accountable.

[K-612-O]

Well, apart from her teacher’s salary (she was a member of the commission in the last Duma elections) they didn’t pay anything. Parties may pay something to their own.

[Mestny]

If I was a member of the commission, we were obliged to pay. TEC MANDATORY allocated for this appropriate amount.
If the observer is yes, there are options. It happened that the representatives of the parties "threw" their observers in terms of wages.
And they also have work, so-so - to watch the process for 12 hours, the working hours of the site. then observe the counting process.

[K-612-O]

Well, the principal of the school was not aware of what the TEC gave money for)). In general, it also seemed to me that they had to pay for plowing until 5 in the morning.

[Vita vko]

Andrey Tarasenko, having changed his opinion several times, in the end stated that he was “not ready” to participate in the re-election of the Governor of Primorye

Of course, because "he probably did not know" about stuffing ballots where 100% are ticked for him. Interestingly, the prosecutor's office investigators will also be so naive.

[den3080]

This is what surprised me, because I am a naive person.
The main conclusion:
Throwing in is possible - it means everything that Pamfilova told was just a beautiful fairy tale and at the same time an incredibly expensive fairy tale.
Live broadcasts, coibs, shmaibs, extinguished elections - bullshit? So it turns out?

[kakvastam]

Quote: den3080

Throws are possible

Important to be impossible unprovable stuffing.

[Dashout]

Quote: aszzz888

and at the same time threw people to the fullest ...

In my opinion, it was necessary not to cancel the elections, but to give the victory to Ishchenko communist! That would be honest! He then? And the people and who voted for him?

[K-612-O]

But he was also engaged in bribery and stuffing. Or can he? Both must be removed. And the communists would carry out purges on the ground so as not to get involved with such candidates, "Grudinin" did not teach anything.

[Vita vko]

Quote: K-612-O

he, too, was engaged in bribery and stuffing

in order to engage in illegal actions during the elections you need to have a good administrative resource, which is available only to the ruling party.
Remember at the presidential election how much dirt and compromising media was dumped on Grudinin, a candidate from the Communist Party, it is doubtful that the editors and correspondents did this on their own initiative.

[K-612-O]

When you go to the polls, the dirt must be removed to the maximum. And how did he get a fellow countryman, a pancake sympathizing with the party.

[kakvastam]

Quote: K-612-O

When you go to the polls, the dirt must be removed to the maximum.

Rather, it is a matter of selecting candidates from the party.
In the case of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the last election of Mr. Putin, this work was done "to get off."

[1 Navigator]

In Russia, all elections must be canceled!

[cniza]

Quote: Navigator 1

In Russia, all elections must be canceled!

And how is it in Belarus?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: cniza

And how is it in Belarus?

There are elections in Belarus
1. For Lukashenko
2.Not against Lukashenko

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

There are elections in Belarus
1. For Lukashenko
2.Not against Lukashenko

On the eve of the election, a poll was held, where only one question was raised:
- Why will you vote for Lukashenko?

[Clueless]

Stop .. but is interference and forgery when voting is not a criminal article? It turns out funny - they make stuffing, they burned cruelly, and then - oh .. let's do a re-election after 3 months.
Yes, for 3 months there they will brainwash the population so that they will vote for Satan

[Bull Terrier]

The crime still needs to be proved. To them, that while the investigation will go on leaving the region without power?

[Volodin]

Quote: Bull Terrier

To them, that while the investigation will go the region without power to leave?

Strange statement ... So, you initially conclude that the investigation will be oooo-sooo long. In general, there is always a temporary and acting organization for such a case, the same regional legislative assembly. Or is it still not power?

[Bull Terrier]

Well, even vskidku- identify direct participants, performers. Look for the money that paid for it. Bind all the iron. What is not fast is a fact. Then the court. And not one. Lawyers, meetings ... year for sure

[Volodin]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Lawyers, meetings ... year for sure

Almost like in "Formula of Love" with carriage repair. If you try, you can do it in a year. Only one cannot cope, here an assistant is needed, Homo Sapiens ...

[Bull Terrier]

Just an ordinary reality. By lawlessness it is possible quickly, by law it will not work

[mavrus]

Why without power? Vrio he is so and so Vrio.

[K-612-O]

Tarasenko will not participate, and the "communist" nouveau riche should be removed. I hope they find a couple of relatively honest adequate ones. (Galushko would)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: K-612-O

I hope to find a couple of relatively honest adequately

An honest politician is a good maniac from the area

[K-612-O]

I said "relatively", well, average decency.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: K-612-O

0
I said "relatively", well, average decency.

Not sitting or something

[mavrus]

Well, now and nouveau riche ...
Tarasenko seemed to have refused at first, but then allegedly agreed. But that’s not the point, they will find the next one in the EP cage, and this time they’ll "throw in" smartly ... Already in the first round.

[K-612-O]

His biography is interesting, and far from being a proletarian or poor.

[Mestny]

Personally, I'm more interested in the clip of the Communist Party.
Will they find the next one, or will it turn out to be like the two previous ones?

[K-612-O]

I suspect that the bench is short.

[Conductor]

Koap talks about it

[aszzz888]

Outstanding Today, 08: 39
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Stop .. but is interference and forgery when voting is not a criminal article?

... that's why the facts of the Moscow commission, and will be transferred to the investigating authorities ...

[Mestny]

This is not "oh". It is by law that it is necessary to do repeated elections.

[Altona]

Quote: Bad

and then - oh .. let's do a re-election in 3 months.
Yes, for 3 months there they will brainwash the population so that they will vote for Satan

----------------------
Thief it is all thieves. When the stuffing did not fail, they decided stupidly to steal the victory.

[Bull Terrier]

And the second candidate is white and fluffy?)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

+1
And the second candidate is white and fluffy?))

Same as the first

[mavrus]

In politics, there is no white and fluffy ... And in this case, there is a crime under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ...

[Borisovich]

Quote: Navigator 1

In Russia, all elections must be canceled!

And why not?

[Mestny]

So it’s written on the Internet. That means the truth. Etozh everyone knows.

[Zubr]

Earlier it became known that Andrei Tarasenko, having changed his opinion several times, eventually declared that he was not ready to participate in the repeat elections of the governor of Primorye.

Of course I’m not ready, and it’s even clear why. Due to lawlessness at polling stations, moreover, from the ruling party, the third round will definitely go to zero. But the question is different. If he refuses the 3-th round, it makes no sense to conduct it. So the next one will be appointed by the president from EP. And this suggests that a gang of thieves is in power again. Frankly, the next fooling of the people.

[Mestny]

So who the people then fooled? Is power again?
Tarasenko from EP does not want to participate, Ishchenko from the Communist Party remained.
BUT!

The candidate for governor from the Communist Party Andrei Ishchenko said that he would appeal the decision of the regional election commission to cancel the election.
"I personally have already filed several claims to the court in Ussuriysk. Claims are being prepared in the cities of Artem, Ussuriysk, Vladivostok. As well as a claim to cancel today's decision," - he said.
RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/politics/20180920/1528955666.html

Honestly - a complete stupor.
You also wanted this, the abolition of the results of dishonest elections, comrades from the Communist Party, right?
And "the chest just opened."
The task of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is apparently not a victory, much less participation.
The task is to reduce the legitimacy of power by ANY ACCESSIBLE METHOD as much as possible. The principle - no matter what the authorities do - is still bad, we do not agree.
Well, that is exactly the same thing that our Western "partners" are doing hard.
Once again, we are convinced of the touching unity of the West, our Communists and liberals, to rock the same building called Russia.
They rock together.

[K-612-O]

That's what a handsome man))) Baba Yaga against))). What does he want then? After all, they will also deal with his violations. Would leave quietly, not a shame. Or in the Communist Party in Primorye there are no more people, is it more adequate?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Mestny

The candidate for governor from the Communist Party Andrei Ishchenko said that he would appeal the decision of the regional election commission to cancel the election.

Ahahaha, here’s the Bolshevichka’s He does not want to win, he will have to work

[Peter Smith]

Perhaps the story of Ceausescu's death taught them nothing. He also “took care” of his country, but in fact filled his pockets.
During his reign, the Romanians watched TV no more than two or three hours a day, received food on cards and went to empty shops, each of which adorned the portrait of the leader. While the citizens of the country tightened their belts, Ceausescu washed in a golden bath, and his dog rode around Bucharest, accompanied by a motorcade.

Reminiscent of today's situation with the bright-faced and his friends. The elections showed that even those forced to vote "for" teachers cannot leave them in power.

[Karenius]

Dear, you reminded me of our "republic" in the late 80s .. When the protest movement began, the local chairman of the councils was somehow indignant: "I am threatened that I will be honored with Ceausescu's fate." I still thought to myself how he was cut off from reality and saw nothing around ... But, to his joy, he got off with a slight fright - he was just knocked down and hit on the head ...
And earlier he thought that we were living under communism :) my sidekick told me that this bloke once called him and asked why they had not allocated an apartment to a person who was supposed to by law? Koresh laughed as he said, "... He never realized that there were waiting lists for those who should be allocated an apartment."

[Pereira]

On the contrary to our Abramovichs, Ceausescu was very modest. By the way, did you find Ceausescu’s accounts abroad? And then I do not know.

[Bull Terrier]

Abramovich is just a rich man. Comparing these people is great stupidity

[Pereira]

Yes Yes. We have no oligarchs. There are simple socially oriented businessmen.

[Bull Terrier]

Well, can you now say for example which party Abramovich is financing? How does it affect the government of the country?

[Pereira]

And which party did Ceausescu finance? Do not make people laugh.

[Karenius]

Quote: Pereira

By the way, did you find Ceausescu’s accounts abroad?

Yes, they could easily have "found" ... It was worth nothing to organize a fictitious "account for Ceausescu" and from there already, as it were, give cookies ...

[mavrus]

As far as I remember, the Romanians blamed him for having more than ten light bulbs in his chandelier room (!!!), that’s such an immodest comrade.

[DEDPIHTO]

Why are we silent about the culprits of violations? Whose cheated ???
The Edrosovsky Panopticon deliberately muddied the violations for the subsequent cancellation of the election results, when they realized that Tarasenko could no longer catch Ishchenko. The result is not a whipping, so the victory was taken away from the Communist Party by skating.

[Bull Terrier]

Enough of these party squabbles !!! People need to evaluate their work. And not what they are in the party. If the person is correct at all on the drum in which party

[Tsoy]

Enough of these party squabbles !!! People need to evaluate their work. And not what they are in the party. If the person is correct at all on the drum in which party

Let's. Who passed laws on raising the retirement age, VAT, excise taxes, housing and communal services, the law of Spring, with a full majority in the Duma?

Let's go from the other side. Name at least one decent United Russia member. For some reason, only Tolstoy, Misullina, Volodin come to my mind. Even the president is no longer in this party, but in my city banners hung "The President's Party". Maybe they meant it:

[Bull Terrier]

What come on Choosing who is good who is bad? I have no idea who is where. I don’t care. I judge the local authorities according to their actions. A thought in general to me before the Christmas tree)

[K-612-O]

And Yarovaya’s law has prevented you from doing so? And the president was not a member of the party except the Communist Party.

[Tsoy]

And the law of Spring than you prevented?

The fact that the connection has risen in price, no? The fact that your correspondence can legally be stored in an incomprehensible place, it is not clear why, also not? This is a direct violation of the Constitution. Today there is no right to confidentiality of personal correspondence, and tomorrow you don’t say "Ku" you are going to cut down the forest.

And the president was not a member of any party except the Communist Party.

In 1995, Putin headed the regional branch of the party "Our Home - Russia"

May 7 Boris Gryzlov’s 2008 was replaced by Vladimir Putin as party leader.

Can I lead a party not in it?

[Darony Grebenkov]

Quote: K-612-O

And the law of Spring than you prevented?

[K-612-O]

Is Ishchenko’s bribery and stuffing out of business? It was necessary?

[Mestny]

Well of course!
Because the Communist Party is fighting for justice against crooks and thieves.
You understand that deceit, bribery, stuffing and stuff for justice is good and useful.
And if they come to power, purges and lustration will begin, so to speak. And this will also be for justice, which means good.
This is the essence of any power - they made their way to the feeding trough, start shooting off the rest while you have strength.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Mestny

Well of course!
Because the Communist Party is fighting for justice against crooks and thieves.
You understand that deceit, bribery, stuffing and stuff for justice is good and useful.
And if they come to power, purges and lustration will begin, so to speak. And this will also be for justice, which means good.
This is the essence of any power - they made their way to the feeding trough, start shooting off the rest while you have strength.

Swim fine. Socialism is against your oligarchy, the two systems clashed and not just against thieves and crooks, although it is precisely from these two components that your system consists. And it is the prospect of being responsible for your own affairs that scares you. But with the advent of the non-guarantor, there were no cleanings, because the system has not changed and, flourishes, to this day. Finish the time with this ,, raspberry ,,

[spektr9]

At the same time, the data turned out to be such that in a number of precincts, all 100% of voters voted for unicorn.

Palms of feet, well, here we have magical choices

[3vs]

To disperse all election commissions, and to select new members of election commissions as a jury.

[Corsair0304]

Quote: 3vs

To disperse all election commissions, and to select new members of election commissions as a jury.

Useless. Each jury works somewhere, does something, and so far the essence and the matter will find leverage.

[True]

Voting must be open. So that everyone can then see for whom his vote is counted.

[K-612-O]

Already was, but then voted unanimously

[Mestny]

Open voting is a great way to control and put pressure on the voter. Here, bribery is already quite real. Got, voted, checked, free.
And now you can only indirectly try to "push".
And with the current system - go check it out. you gave him money, he reported to you that he voted correctly. Find out, try it.

[3vs]

If you talk like that, you can generally cancel the election and agree to the restoration of the monarchy and estates.
Why steam and money for the elections will be more complete, look, they’ll throw something to pensioners.
Graff Shuvaloff will buy a village of serfs ...

[Mestny]

Why exactly a graph. This is somewhat archaic.
An example from the recent past, the most harmless.
For example, a prominent scientist. Or a party worker. They do everything for their socialist country; they do not spare forces. Need to help them? It is necessary, We, as a whole nation, are building communism together. Well, if necessary, so let them have housekeepers, drivers, and gardeners, janitors.
And they don’t have time to go to the store - you need help, deliver it to your home, or send a courier from the yards ... sorry, from the staff.
And that is characteristic - without princes and counts. Everything is strictly fair, in the name of a brighter future, equality, man-to-man, and so on.

[Peter Smith]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, we all agreed to pay for Crimea, why now suffer?

Do not generalize. No one held a referendum in Russia on the annexation of Crimea.

[Bull Terrier]

Well, you are against, you have the right. I personally do not.

[Peter Smith]

Yes, and I do not mind. No radicalization needed. I would abstain. It was necessary to do it (Crimea) as a union state. Without joining the Russian Federation. And in 20-30 years to attach.

[eleronn]

Who is guilty of violations? Criminal case brought on fraud?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: eleronn

Criminal case brought on fraud?

A bunch of statements have been filed with the police. Now the head of the election commission is there, asking the candidates to pick up appearances, singing something about conscience

[Mestny]

No one wants a criminal case, of course.
Well, here we ourselves had to think - if it was over, these violations really took place, and not just invented by representatives of the Communist Party.

[Altona]

Quote: Bull Terrier

And the second candidate is white and fluffy?)))

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Are we about the voting procedure or about the personalities of the candidates?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Altona

Are we about the voting procedure or about the personalities of the candidates?

And why not talk about MEMBERS for the candidates. One thief throws another thief in the elections, and goes to Saitov.

[rotmistr60]

Due to the cave stupidity of the Primorye election commission (in some areas, 100% voted ...) they created a situation that undermines the credibility of the authorities. Interestingly, they apply the article of the Criminal Code on election fraud?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: rotmistr60

0
Due to the cave stupidity of the seaside election commission (in some polling stations 100% voted ..

This is nutty stupidity! 100% voted on the courts, so teams on 11 -20 people. There is nothing in this, although for those who are in the tank

[Mestny]

Yes, that's right. There are such sites with an extremely small number of voters. For example, quite small villages. There, as a rule, exit voting. And if the voter lists are compiled correctly, that is, they do not have those who are not able to vote, the turnout can be 100%. An exit session of PECs with documents, observers, and a ballot box will drop into each house. Moreover, these houses can be, for example, only 20.

[Altona]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

When the sanctions were imposed, you all wrote, “Nothing, we’ll kill ourselves with sausage and black bread. If we need to tighten our belts.” What did you want to eat?

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Sasha, I have before sanctions, after that, the ration is the same practically. Nothing has changed. In the morning porridge or cottage cheese, in the afternoon soup or potatoes with a cutlet. In the evening, what’s necessary, sometimes plus 50 grams. What is there to tighten?

[Bull Terrier]

A compote?)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Altona

. What is there to tighten?

So here the other day, some wrote from the city of Khabarovsk that there were many beggars who were begging. He offered them a ride together and find them. I wanted to sacrifice out of kindness. None agreed.

4-5 days ago, my grandmother stood at the stops, we stopped the friend waiting. She came, said there was no money for the bus, asked for a ride. But since we were not on the way, they politely refused, giving money for the bus. There was no trifle, because granny received a steward. God’s dandelion wasn’t a sucker, she took a mobile from her purse, called a taxi and wound up where she needed it. I’m a sucker or oah poor, I don’t even know

[Bull Terrier]

What beggars?))) I even saw the homeless devil knows when. At Pushkin, grandfather sits for alms. Near the market, yes. Granny was still there. He lived there before, saw. But it was a long time ago

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

0
What beggars?)))

I don’t know, someone constantly convinces me here that they are full of them everywhere. I propose to drive together and look at the poor. Well, there, a selfie, an autograph, can ask a couple of questions, what and how .. It’s most interesting to look at them. They don’t want to go with me

[Bull Terrier]

So where do they sit in Ha then they think? On the red line? At the 5 site? On the Fusion?)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bull Terrier

0
So where do they sit in Ha then they think? On the red line? At the 5 site? On the Fusion?)

But hell knows, we drove through the center, to the railway station, dropped into Yuzhny, then again to the famous stall in the center, where the Brtuchi sold, shook and back, through your impossible traffic jams. I saw one one-legged man who seemed to like to drink. I didn’t meet grandmothers and paupers

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

She came, said no money for the bus, asked for a ride

I saw clean students at the Paveletsky train station in Moscow asking for money to leave home ...
As it turned out later, this is a new type of earnings. Grandmothers do not evoke the same sympathy as the "poor and hungry students."

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I'm a sucker or ooh poor, I don’t even know

Sasha ... We are suckers. I'd rather die than go alms to ask.
But a generation of professional beggars who don’t want to work has already grown.

[AleBors]

Fine. News from the serpentarium ... Some could not eat others. That's just hissing and agree among themselves. And we will continue to hold on .... For what only, DAM did not inform ..

[Examenatornick]

stop stop .... and what exactly violations were revealed ... if there is a carousel then why is there no criminal case? or agitation ... where are the punished responsible or caught by the hand?

[Mestny]

There will be a criminal case for you. Unless of course the charges are justified, at least somehow. It is clear that there will be witnesses and guilty ones.

[NordUral]

The first swallow! A people can win if it is a people, not a population!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: NordUral

The people can win

Not the people, but the law.
And your people in the number of 100 people came to the administration in Vlad. 70 man of them are Udaltsians. 30 man from the Communist Party. Although the loser promised a minimum of 40 000 lead.
The conclusion is that the people here are not so much that they could have organized chaos. People began to believe in the law and the law did not disappoint them!

[DVTamga]

People do not believe in the law. So historically in Primorye. And there are reasons for that.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

People began to believe in the law and the law did not disappoint them!

Laugh ... Already a tear has filled. Communists in the furnace of history, yes, Sash?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Banshee

Communists in the furnace of history, yes, Sash?

They are already there

Quote: Banshee

I made fun ... Already a tear came.

Yes, even giggle. As Putin said, the dog barks, the caravan goes on. I have to touch the Bolsheviks on the site, only to raise the mood.
And especially changing shoes on the go

[kakvastam]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Conclusion, the people here are not so here

Hey, you up there!
Collect more competent janitors in the trolls, otherwise the Klitschko clones will soon amuse everyone to death!

[Altona]

Quote: Bull Terrier

A compote?)))

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Well, of course, on the third, tea, coffee, compote, kissel, cocoa with milk.

[Mestny]

They drink kakawa with tea.
And in the morning champagne, it’s known.

[Altona]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

So here the other day, some of the city of Khabarovsk wrote that there are many beggars

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We have many digging around in garbage cans, mostly pensioners. I don’t know for what reasons, from senility or great need. Therefore, I try to just throw things away just to hang carefully on the fence to pick up, if necessary. And the old furniture should not be destroyed either, but simply left.

[Bull Terrier]

This is a normal approach now. Whole good things to put aside. May come in handy. I threw out the old furniture, disappeared in an hour)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Altona

We have many in the garbage dumps, mostly pensioners

Take a photo to see

[Himdym]

I don't really understand yet how this is possible. firstly, the number of ballots at each PEC is strictly known. Secondly, all unused ballots are simply canceled. if the sum is not obtained, the protocol is not accepted by the TEC. To replace the ballots with the "necessary" ones, you need to open the KOIB, that you will be able to do a damn thing, as well as break the seal of the ballot box with observers and video recording. here and another question arises: and with whose knowledge and where does the "disregard" appear at the PEC?
How else can you get around the CEO?
How can you technically replace ballots? as with observers, you can throw in "for dead souls", especially since the members of the commission, as well as observers, keep records of the number of voters, again, if the number does not hit - a reason to signal. Well, the cameras have already been mentioned.
in short, the PEC chairpersons would be guilty of love, although it would be worth digging deeper.
PS Deputy Chairman of the PEC 2004, 2008

[fan_]

Your naivety is simply amazing, read .... learn from Edra how to do it ..http: //www.pkokprf.ru/news/view/31613.

[Note 2]

At least in Ussuriysk, several polling stations were under the control of members of the community. How and what was done there was a question for them.

[Mestny]

No, this is not a question for them. This is a question for observers.

[Mestny]

in short, the PEC chairpersons would be guilty of love, although it would be worth digging deeper.

No, they will not do.
If the whole procedure was carried out in the presence of observers and members of the commission, and by the way police officers, the final protocol was signed by the commission members, copies were handed to the observers - all further claims to the next instance.
There is only one final protocol. Copies from party observers. It is impossible to remake or change it after all members of the commission in the presence of observers have signed it.
All ballots are sealed in separate packages, about which the corresponding entries are made.
And only then, accompanied by police officers, the whole package of documents the chairman and secretary of the PEC deliver to the TEC PERSONALLY.
In case of doubt about the correctness of the vote count, party representatives have a copy of the final protocol. They can at any time compare officially announced figures with a copy.
Purely technically, ballot papers cannot be replaced - they are stamped with PECs and a special sticker is glued. The presence of these marks is specially checked when counting votes.
I remind you. that if during the counting of votes one extra ballot is found out - the results of the site will be canceled, and all participants in the process will fix the problems.
Think about whether they need these problems. Or is it easier to do everything correctly and legally?

[Awaz]

I had the same story twice with my mother-in-law: she comes and they already voted for her ... Her son didn’t, in essence, dismantle her, except for scandal, but I didn’t think that the second time she would be caught in the same contract. Nevertheless, there are just people who do not statistically stably go to the polls (it was just like that and didn’t go for many years), and these very people vote for the system of deputies or governors or even presidents. But about half of the voters do not go, and besides, the election commissions have a huge supply of votes from grandmothers = pensioners.
My friend was the chairman of the PEC. Well, no one instructed him and no pressure was exerted even in the State Duma elections, probably in the past or even earlier, the commie defeated in his precinct. Moreover, the percentages of candidates were about the same as in online voting on local sites. However, in the city the Communists and Ed Ro were already on the same level, but in the EdRo region by a slight margin, and in the country they defeated everyone in general .. Here is such a math

[Altona]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Take a photo to see

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I will do it, although I must respect their right to the privacy of my personality.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Altona

Will do

Only not at the store where the delay is thrown out

[Darony Grebenkov]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Alexander Romanov
Take a photo to see

Sanya, do you want me from Moscow to find you thousands of photos for these collections? Sales during the mundual, forgive the Lord, they were not expelled by the poor fellow ...

[Victor_B]

Pamfilova VERY offended ...
I think that the cancellation of the results is her personal merit.
God forbid that in other regions her hands should not be twisted.
For me, the only doubt is the FULL cancellation of the results and the appointment of elections from scratch, with the nomination of candidates.
It was easier to cancel in these 32 areas. But it’s just to recognize the victory of the communist.
They could not go for it.
But now the probability of victory of edross is minimal.

[Note 2]

This is the merit of our president when he understood what story the candidate of his favorite party, Tarasenko, got into it, he decided to play in the ass

[Victor_B]

This is the merit of our president when he understood what story the candidate of his favorite party, Tarasenko, got into it, he decided to play in the ass

Even if he personally waved a finger, he created a precedent - do not grieve for mom!
After a week, 3 more subjects vote.
The people in the election commissions may even have ... Who wants the article?
But Pamfilova is threatened with a criminal offense (up to 4 years). And promises a revealing flogging!

[Victor_B]

Here are her insights: “These are very small sections, these are vessels, this is a navigable vote. There are teams - 11 people, 13, 14, no more than 29 people.

And here - horseradish!
This is the Soviet district of Vladivostok. The largest. And plus 2 cities Artem and Ussuriysk. Not too small either.
And these voices are just enough to tip the cup.
They go head to head.
Solovyov Pamfilov laid out everything in detail.

[DVTamga]

What are you talking about? If Pamfilova can decompose something, then this is solitaire. Man lives in a different reality, which Artem, which Ussuriysk? At this aunt, they all plow along the schooners of the sea. But just a local resident, and I’m watching all this crap.

[trophy]

Not surprised, deserved it. And Edrosnyuk seems to have been leaked in order to hide the scale of the fraud. It would be very curious to look at his result during the re-election. Someone from the local orchestra will unscrew the head, there is nothing to relax and bring the situation to the second round. Only a confident victory with a result of 70% or more! The president’s party, however, is not for you to crack crackers in the workplace.

[Terenin]

Firstly, criminal cases should be instituted, investigated and sent to courts on violations of the law "On elections".
Secondly, even if you choose an alien as a governor, he will not change much that will change once he gets into the current system of legal relations (federal center-regions-local government bodies ...). It is necessary to rewrite the "rules of the game", otherwise it will turn out that everyone is playing the "fool", and the new governor. will play "goat". We know how it ends.

[pafegosoff]

our comedian Evdokimov ...

[pafegosoff]

What? Edros outraged?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: pafegosoff

0
What? Edros outraged?

No, it’s the Communist Party, they demand through the court to cancel the decision that the results of the second round are invalid

[ashnajder]

Tsar Volodya and Co. did not approve?))))) the results?

[16112014nk]

Quote: SSR

Take Sochi, you know what is on the routes, bus drivers do not issue tickets

A month ago I was in Rzhev. There, bus drivers do not give tickets, they do not seem to exist there in nature. Where the revenue goes and how much is a big question.

[bk316]

A month ago I was in Rzhev.

I go there once a week. And what buses are there? Joke.
There are no tickets there, you are right. All on the trust of the driver.
There, in general, wonderful things are happening with the budget, for example, the story of a bridge on which asphalt has not held on for more than a year, no matter what you do.

[Yegorchik]

Man NODovets stupid, he will not become, just nowhere.

[bk316]

3 days ago, here the fighters with the regime cursed the GDP, Golikov and the authorities in general so vividly that even I, old druk, got seduced and supported And today, they pity for the legal consequences and shortcomings of the Kaib. Bored girls.
The GDP again played the ingenious two-way little one: now any voters who are not sick of the head will say, well, if they were canceled with a difference of 4%, then 20% none fraud will not give. The fact that it IS NOT AT ALL SO important, PR is important.
And as a defense law enforcement agency(learn from the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation): on the first channel publicly "I talked to Golikova, I will contact the president!" Contacted? Contacted! Did it help? It helped! Now everyone knows our central government is immaculate, and in order to get through to it, Comrade Zyuganov is needed.
Do you know what will be the cherry on the cake - Trial, and they will find two suckers from one headquarters and from another. And they will condemn both. And you know what will be the peppercorn on the cherry - they will give Edros conditionally, and the commies in full. Well, so that everything was clear to everyone.
And someone else says that our power is slow. Naglosaksa learned by the electorate to manage for centuries, and ours have mastered science in 10 years.

And the most offensive, he said to himself how many times, well, there is no democracy either in the Russian Federation or in the World, and again fell for .....

[Comrade Beria]

And Golikov here from which edge?

[NyeMoNik70]

"- Edros will be given conditionally, and commies in full", AAAHHHAAAHHAA put a plus. This will become a meme. And Cho, democracy is observed, opponents were called to order. The people are calm, only at the top of the barricades and rrrevolution. Boring b .... b, sign up for the NM LDNR.

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: NyeMoNik70

The people are calm, only on the top of the barricades and rrrevolution. Bored b .... b, sign up in NM LDNR.

There were already, also boring, they did not order the adversaries to crush you! They returned to the huts to sort it out, the creatures are even better here!

[NyeMoNik70]

Do not whine. Do not get bored. Remember, the flexible hand of the Cheka, the OGPU, the NKVD, the KGB, the FSB keeps the naughty children by the neck. The main thing is not to venture idogevolutions.

[Qwertyarion]

Comrades from the center will analyze the results of the clumsy work of the headquarters of Andrei Tarasenko (from United Russia) and will not make a mistake in the third round of elections, otherwise it cannot be!
Do not forget that they are also comrades of the Communist Party and also communicate with comrades from the very center, well, sometimes they drink tea at the same table or something else.

[Note 2]

In the inaccuracy article, the gap was almost seven percent in favor of the Communist Party candidate, and at that time 95% of the ballots were processed and suddenly, from some 5%, this advantage was in favor of the candidate from Tarasenko, who did not disdain even during the voting in broad daylight For their party from the local TV channel OTV. The organizers of the forgery and correspondence of the ballots Tarasenko and his party do not believe that the allegedly communist Ishchenko rigged something there!

[Clueless]

Let's stay wang. Will be the next in 3 months:

- The current unit will not go to the next election;
- Another was nominated in his place, and they will be brainwashed all this time (as they did in the Kemerovo region after they removed the local dracula from the post after the fire);
- The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will either recuse itself (like we don’t want to go to the 2nd election, recognize the first), or they won’t enter into the struggle;
- no one will be imprisoned, conditional force, and it is unlikely that a couple of officials will be fired and all things

[Yegorchik]

Everything is so, even if the Communist Party exposes someone, the next election will be rigged more competently, not at the last moment like these, so that the mosquito doesn’t undermine the nose and still sell unicorn, the authorities simply become impudent.

[Shkiper]

Tarasenko can be respected, which means that there is still the honor of an officer who did not allow further participation in this booth. And a ray of reason flashed in the Kremlin, they did not bring people to a boil. Kommunyak needs to do the same, in contrast to the LDPR (Khabarovsk Territory), he did not sell for his post. Now wait and see.

[DVTamga]

What? Honor officer? Do you drink something? Yes, there’s nowhere to put a stamp on it! In Primorye, the governor will rule, who will arrange Moscow. There will be no upstarts here. Too much is at stake, so it will be as Moscow says.

[Awaz]

Tarasenko clearly took an active part in fraud. And that which refuses
this is a clear sign that at least he has felt guilty and has already pissed off climbing there a second time, since now people will not forgive, and the election campaign can go (suddenly) completely honestly and openly and then we will see the real opinion of the people about the authorities .. It’s important that everyone came

[Shkiper]

Yes, it is not a royal job to suffer from machinations. On the spot "Eating Russia" they decided that the figure was a checkpoint, and the rest was "a matter of technology." Tarasenko made an offer from which he could not initially refuse. And when he realized that the case smelled of "kerosene", he turned on the "back".

[Comrade Beria]

For the first time in Russia. Canceled election results of the governor of Primorsky Krai

The next logical step should be the landing of all involved, regardless of rank and merit.
Will be? The question is rhetorical.

[Sewer krainiy]

Quote: Comrade Beria

For the first time in Russia. Canceled election results of the governor of Primorsky Krai

The next logical step should be the landing of all involved, regardless of rank and merit.
Will be? The question is rhetorical.

Plus, this is the most important, and not only for Russia. In the region of the coastal arithmetic from arrogance forgotten ...

[cosmonaut]

conclusion is well and throughout the country so choose

[Awaz]

Well, yes, in this story, the very essence of how elections in the Russian Federation take place is clearly manifested. And if more people came to the polls and even more voted against the representative of the ED of Armenia, the scandal would have turned out even more fun. In this situation, the power system simply could not overcome with standard frauds, the protest vote of people and was forced to whip up, stupidly and brazenly edit the results on the go. Therefore, everything got out on the gun ..
But if people all over the country went to the polls and if only everyone who was against the EDRA would have voted and then such stories would have flashed in the country ... Something similar was in the State Duma when the Communists began to win, but they merged .. But here, too, shut up ..

[Ivan Ivanov]

According to Zyuganov, the good for falsification came from above (probably from Trutnev), a strange cancellation of the results, slurred explanations and emotions of Pamfilova indirectly confirm this. By the way, the scandal confirms that going to the polls is still useful. In the first round, United Russia leader was almost half, in the second round, the electorate mobilized

[Doliva63]

Quote: IvanIvanov

According to Zyuganov, the good for falsification came from above (probably from Trutnev), a strange cancellation of the results, slurred explanations and emotions of Pamfilova indirectly confirm this. By the way, the scandal confirms that going to the polls is still useful. In the first round, United Russia leader was almost half, in the second round, the electorate mobilized

Of course, you can cheat, if wisely, but here - insolently, that’s not a ride. From experience I can say that the authorities did not prepare for the elections, they hoped for a resource and instructions from above. Now, generally, they save on election experts.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Doliva63

Now generally save on election experts

This is a chance, at least for the regions, for legal changes. These gentlemen themselves will not let go of the power; everyone has settled, together with friends, relatives, lovers. I remember that they scolded Serdyukov for this, but even the respected Sergey Kozhugetych contains an adviser, a former model and the leader of Russia, 24 Maria Kitaeva with the rank of Major General, received at 28 years old. I find the result great.

[Awaz]

Well, the elections were canceled, and then what? Apparently, moreover, all this can be seen even without an armed glance, the administrative resource from the governor’s acting side was used to the full. Probably the commies also had points of influence. If I’m not mistaken, then for the rigging and fraud in the elections, you can even get a real deadline, even on the ground, to the leaders of the Electoral Commissions, and what can we say about those who use power to squeeze their interests. So if everything ends so quietly, and it ends like this, the system more and more begins to drive itself into a corner and ends for some, all this is bad ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Victor_B

Pamfilova VERY offended ...
I think that the cancellation of the results is her personal merit.
God forbid that in other regions her hands should not be twisted.
For me, the only doubt is the FULL cancellation of the results and the appointment of elections from scratch, with the nomination of candidates.
It was easier to cancel in these 32 areas. But it’s just to recognize the victory of the communist.
They could not go for it.
But now the probability of victory of edross is minimal.

Pamfilov here is nothing. Putin’s appointee played too rudely, the Kremlin doesn’t need such noise, so the command from above came in - it’s significant to cancel. Why are they so unsuspecting? Putin needs governors who will provide "stability", and here is such a stench from the very beginning!

[fan_]

I listen to the news and marvel, they talk about mass violations, BUT THE TARASENKO SAME NAME AND ITS PARTY EP do not remember the perpetrators of the scandal, that is, there were gross violations in the postscript .... and it’s not necessary to tell anyone.

[Rzzz]

But I wonder if there was a referendum on the retirement age - what percentage would be "for"? Modest 51% or 80 percent to be sure?

[2329 Carpenter]

DEDPIHTO,
Nevertheless, the tasks for you, for such ... ultra-flanks are the same. Like the Socialist Revolutionaries and monarchists in the last century. Well, in the end, they fell into each other's arms in 1918.
"You can't get away from regularity, Karl."
Just nothing will come of you, "f / a / langists". It's good to shed blood to each other. They won't give you weapons. It is too serious now. Even more serious than machine-gun carts.

[kig]

Quote from the decision of the election commission of the Primorsky Territory:
“Since the number of voters included in the voter lists at polling stations whose voting results cannot be taken into account by the Election Commission of the Primorsky Territory when re-voting in the early elections of the Governor of the Primorsky Territory due to the recognition by the territorial election commission of the Sovetsky District of Vladivostok the voting results in the corresponding territory invalid, significantly exceeds the difference in the number established by the Election Commission of the Primorsky Territory by the number of voters received by the candidates included in the ballot when re-voting at the elections of the Governor of Primorsky Krai, the result of the will of such voters, being discredited by the decision of the territorial election commission of the Sovetsky District of Vladivostok city dated September 18, 2018 No. 658/132, affected the results of the repeat voting in the early elections of the Governor of Primorsky Krai. ”
Has anyone understood anything?