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Trolling from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: "Abrams" tank "rolled" on a trailer in the Donbass

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During a briefing on the situation with the MH-17 investigation, the Russian Ministry of Defense, in addition to declassified data on the supply of anti-aircraft missiles in the USSR 80-s, provided a detailed analysis of a number of videos. First of all, we are talking about personnel that the Ukrainian bloggers and the notorious Bellingcat gave out and continue to pass off for allegedly moving the Russian Buk missile system to the LDNR territory. In the frames, as is well known, a trailer with an anti-aircraft missile system, then the Buk, moving under its own power, is shown on the roads.


During the briefing, a detailed (almost frame by frame) analysis of videos that are used by Kiev and the West to accuse Russia of striking a Malaysian Boeing. So, on one of the shots a clear “anomaly” is demonstrated when the Buk air defense system suddenly moves backwards along a normal road.

The series of identified inconsistencies is in graphic perspective, when the guides of the streets and designated military equipment on these streets do not have a single vanishing point, which contradicts the laws of the very same perspective and geometric optics.

Trolling from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: "Abrams" tank "rolled" on a trailer in the Donbass


In addition, the Ministry of Defense draws attention to the strangeness in the illumination of the very trailer “with the Buk,” which Kiev insists on. Civilian cars, captured on frames, are not lit the way the trailer cabin is lit. Separate parts of the cabin, to which, by definition, the light cannot fall in the presented perspective, are brightly lit.

The apogee of analyzing videos and identifying their installation can be considered a video made by the ministry itself. Thus, it is demonstrated that if you use the same applied technologies, you can fabricate, in fact, anything. As an example, the Ministry of Defense of Russia shows a video story in which the trailer carries an American tank "Abrams", explaining in advance that it used exactly the same technology that the authors of video fayers used.

From the material (in the video on 19: 32):
In such a simple way of falsifying a video, you can roll along the streets not only the firing system of the Buk air defense missile system, but also, for example, the Abrams tank


Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. BAI
    BAI 17 September 2018 16: 22
    -40
    Three news in a row on the same topic - this is not news, but an information attack. Confidence in information will be reduced.
    1. Logall
      Logall 17 September 2018 16: 28
      -5
      On the lack of fish and cancer ... Apparently there is no other news. Or little information on other topics ...
    2. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 17 September 2018 16: 32
      +31
      He is trolling in Africa and trolling. Correctly it is necessary to poke any experts in a face.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 17 September 2018 17: 21
        -1
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        Correctly it is necessary to poke any experts in what face

        I'm not an Espert, but
        The series of identified inconsistencies is in graphic perspective, when the guides of the streets and designated military equipment on these streets do not have a single vanishing point, which contradicts the laws of the very same perspective and geometric optics.

        but don’t you think that the trailer platform under load need not be parallel to the plane of the road? I don’t know which consumer such data is designed for, but they do not change anything. Everyone will remain in their own opinion.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 17 September 2018 17: 43
          +22
          Quote: MyVrach
          Everyone will remain in their own opinion.

          In your opinion, can Buk still drive backwards through the streets?
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 17 September 2018 20: 31
            -6
            Quote: NIKNN
            In your opinion, can Buk still drive backwards through the streets?

            doesn't he have a reverse gear? what
            1. mister-red
              mister-red 17 September 2018 20: 37
              +6
              Was the movie fully watched? At 17.55 everything is explained.
              1. Henderson
                Henderson 17 September 2018 20: 39
                -2
                Looked. What does the photo and reverse gear have to do with it?
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 17 September 2018 22: 20
                  -3
                  Which, damn it, TROLLING?
                  This "tank" (time 19:36 - 19:39) is just a vague shadow. It is not clear what they are taking.
                  Ukrainians mounted the frames much better.
                2. Vkd dvk
                  Vkd dvk 17 September 2018 22: 28
                  +12
                  Quote: Henderson
                  Looked. What does the photo and reverse gear have to do with it?

                  Are you on the stairs and roads, too, moving forward assholes? Is it not to soften the collision? I don’t understand that you have more stupidity or pretense?
                  1. Henderson
                    Henderson 19 September 2018 13: 05
                    -1
                    Quote: Vkd dvk
                    Are you on the stairs and roads, too, moving forward assholes?

                    who moved your ass forward? There is a set of photos. The picture does not move in the photo. Judging by the position of the feed nose, he was driving in the opposite direction. Attention question: where did he go from?
            2. trahterist
              trahterist 18 September 2018 21: 33
              +1
              There is one, only Buk has a mechanical transmission with planetars and One fixed transmission of a tractor unit, i.e. he’ll go back, only meee-me-slow.
              This is not modern tank reverse GOP transmissions where the forward and reverse speeds are the same!
          2. My doctor
            My doctor 17 September 2018 21: 04
            +1
            Quote: NIKNN
            In your opinion, can Buk still drive backwards through the streets?

            I do not know. In Baranavichy (if memory serves), the lieutenant was crushed in half during the maneuver of GM in boxing when he was in charge of the mechanical drive.
        2. zulusuluz
          zulusuluz 17 September 2018 23: 58
          +6
          but don’t you think that the trailer platform under load need not be parallel to the plane of the road?

          And why does the wheelbase of the tractor not fit together? And the rocket, practically a top view, against the background of the cockpit (side view - its roof is not visible) also "drew itself"?
          The fact that the MO responds to such attacks is good. Since the "investigative group" has no evidence base, the falsification is tedious to take out of public - let the world see who is really lying!
        3. Siberian54
          Siberian54 18 September 2018 17: 26
          0
          Trailers of this class have air suspension and practically do not sag under load
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 17 September 2018 16: 53
      +10
      Do not tell me, there is information supported by facts, but there is a "bazaar" "confirmed" with a high degree of probability.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 17 September 2018 18: 08
        +6
        Quote: Terenin
        but there is a "bazaar" "confirmed" high probability.

        do you want to blame Theresa May for plagiarism? An old woman for rent: Litvenenko did not cope with the case - she has classified it. They could not crash bangs on human beings - they began to steal ideas from the 404th. Getting old ...
    4. 210ox
      210ox 17 September 2018 16: 57
      +10
      Uh, no! With wolves the only way .. Don’t chew snot, repenting .. namely attacking.
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 17 September 2018 17: 06
      -1
      Quote: BAI
      Three news in a row on the same topic - this is not news, but an information attack. Confidence in information will be reduced.

      I rarely agree with you, but today I completely agree, moreover, a couple of years ago we were told that Buk is real, only Ukrainian. And before that, in general, our Ministry of Defense reported that a Boeing was shot down by the Ukrainian Su-24 in general.
      1. ltc35
        ltc35 17 September 2018 18: 34
        +4
        At the first they said that he shot down the Su-25 and even showed the pilot. Generally darken everything. The point is clear that the case is dark. Ukrainians are so completely out with facts. Even the wreckage was taken out at random, so that the picture would not be restored.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 18 September 2018 17: 31
          0
          At the press conference they also talked about the plane .. The pilot had the PRACTICAL OPPORTUNITY to knock down the PASSENGER .. After the investigative experiment was conducted, the version with the plane was dropped.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 17 September 2018 19: 20
        +6
        Quote: RUSS
        Moreover, a couple of years ago we were told that the Beech is real, only Ukrainian.

        Have you read the article?
        First of all, we are talking about the frames that Ukrainian bloggers and the notorious Bellingcat gave out and continue to give out for moving the supposedly Russian Buk air defense system on the territory of LDNR.
        There are beeches in Ukraine, but in LDNR there are none.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 18 September 2018 17: 34
          -3
          They noted that they stated that the beech complex missiles were not sold and did not disappear, we are waiting for the fire at the headquarters of the air defense regiment and all the docks burned down ..
  2. Theodore
    Theodore 17 September 2018 16: 22
    +7
    Nah! Abrams militias do not need!
  3. dr.star75
    dr.star75 17 September 2018 16: 24
    +15
    So them, so face on the table!
  4. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 17 September 2018 16: 25
    +9
    The most important thing, of course, is the number of the rocket! Khan is now Waltzman! How many are there before the election?
    1. mavrus
      mavrus 17 September 2018 16: 45
      +8
      And to him and the number of the Khan’s rocket, and without the Khan’s number, it’s if the elections are normal ... But if the State Department recognizes the illegality of these elections, or once again declares a third round, or throws out some more feints with our ears, then it’s quite likely that we are this drunk for a long time we will see.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 17 September 2018 16: 54
        +4
        We will see for a long time

        the State Department did not approve Petka .... will be Julia ....
        Petka resists, but the State Department does not hesitate ...
    2. Nedokomsomolets
      Nedokomsomolets 17 September 2018 19: 46
      -7
      With the number of the rocket, I, as an amateur, are confused by one thing - he would be the first thing I would look for on a rocket. And, naturally, further down the magazines. For four years there was not a word about the number - it is logical to assume that the number was destroyed for such a case. But no! He is! What have they been waiting for so much time?
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 17 September 2018 20: 31
        +17

        Nedokomsomolets (Peter Korobov) Today, 19: 46 ...For four years there was not a word about the issue - it is logical to assume that for such a case the number was destroyed.

        ... the nozzle number data, and the rockets themselves (factory ones) were first published by the Netherlands in May of this year ... now it’s considered how much time the MO RF needed to work ... it's not counting the empty bottles in the kiosk ... hi
        1. Vladimirsky
          Vladimirsky 18 September 2018 08: 54
          -5
          Quote: aszzz888
          were first published by the Netherlands in May of this year ... now I think how much time it took the Russian Defense Ministry to work ... it's not counting the empty bottles in the kiosk ...

          Raise archives - 3 days. and 123 days have passed. It would be more logical to "punish" the liars with a number immediately - at the end of May, and now arrange the graphic part of the presentation (about fakes).
          1. Business trip
            Business trip 18 September 2018 09: 22
            +5
            And remove the secrecy? This is not a sucker for you.
      2. mister-red
        mister-red 17 September 2018 20: 39
        +4
        Ask the Dutch - they published it in May of this year.
      3. YUG64
        YUG64 18 September 2018 08: 40
        0
        Confused by the number of such "uncomprehending" ... Straight hanging in bunches, gentlemen. Well, I can't believe that so many people are not in the know ... Apparently the prison is so lowered ...
    3. Skarpzd
      Skarpzd 18 September 2018 02: 09
      -5
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      The most important thing, of course, is the number of the rocket! Khan is now Waltzman! How many are there before the election?

      for example, Russian saboteurs stole a rocket back in 1993. or - Ukraine transferred, let’s say, a missile to Georgia in 2007, and the Russian Federation captured this missile in 2008, in order to drop the Boeing in 2014. options excuses - mullen. and who will they believe?
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 18 September 2018 07: 40
        +3
        Quote: Skarpzd
        options excuses - mullen. and who will they believe?

        To someone who has proved his claims, like ours, with documents.
        1. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 18 September 2018 15: 04
          0
          Well, adults .... who besides us, this evidence is interesting? argue that no one? at least a fake will be announced.
          1. Sergey Medvedev
            Sergey Medvedev 18 September 2018 18: 14
            0
            Quote: Skarpzd
            Well, adults .... who besides us, this evidence is interesting? argue that no one? at least a fake will be announced.

            Nato is not interested, but it is very interesting to Malaysia who killed their people. And others, not from NATO, are also interested in who shoots down the Boeings and then cheats with an investigation.
      2. Siberian54
        Siberian54 18 September 2018 17: 37
        0
        They have already officially announced, they have not lost anything and did not sell ...
  5. Boris55
    Boris55 17 September 2018 16: 27
    +7
    We are gaining patience, waiting for the intercepted conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers with the crew of the downed Boeing.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 17 September 2018 16: 54
      +4
      Quote: Boris55
      We are waiting for intercepted conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers

      Nooo ..... photo / video from the amersky satellite!
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 17 September 2018 20: 35
        +2
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        We are waiting for intercepted conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers

        Nooo .....photo / video from amersky satellite!

        ... by the way, this would have put all the dots on i ...
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 17 September 2018 18: 12
      +2
      Quote: Boris55
      ... conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers with the crew of a downed Boeing.

      But the lack of these records is surprising. The fact that the 404th will not show them and the dispatcher and her husband buried most likely, this is understandable. But at the same frequency there were still two boards - they should then record the whole broadcast
    3. 210ox
      210ox 17 September 2018 18: 19
      +5
      No, we are waiting for the next fire in ukrovsk ... Part of the air defense in Stryi ..
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 17 September 2018 20: 37
        +1


        210ox (Dmitry) Today, 18: 19
        +1
        No, we are waiting for the next fire in ukrovsk ... Part of the air defense in Stryi ..

        hi ! ... this ukro-Nazi disadvantage is ready for anything, not only a fire will be set up, but also a mother will fill up ...
    4. Antares
      Antares 17 September 2018 21: 50
      +1
      Quote: Boris55
      We are gaining patience, waiting for the intercepted conversations of Ukrainian dispatchers with the crew of the downed Boeing.

      These or what?

      they could be "intercepted" from Rostov, where the Dnipropetrovskites were talking with the Boeing crew and Rostov colleagues.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 18 September 2018 00: 48
        +2
        Dispatcher where, and where is her testimony?
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 17 September 2018 16: 40
    +4
    Conditionally ... cards on this issue will be revealed in parts.
  7. 3vs
    3vs 17 September 2018 16: 41
    +3
    Trolling is protected! laughing good
  8. Fungus
    Fungus 17 September 2018 16: 41
    -3
    The closer the court, the more interesting facts will come out. Not in favor of Ukraine.
  9. Rusik.S
    Rusik.S 17 September 2018 16: 51
    +10
    All this, of course, is wonderful, but the western inhabitant of these revelations will not see. And if he sees, then the media will turn them upside down. And the curators of Ukraine do not care about all this, they really do not need
    1. kind
      kind 17 September 2018 19: 23
      +2

      Something like that!
  10. _Kotegpushisteg_
    _Kotegpushisteg_ 17 September 2018 16: 52
    -1
    in our fake time you can prove anything and nothing can be reliably! in any question it’s only a matter of public faith in one direction or another! if you want to cook up a video of a meeting between Grisha the impostor and Varlaam’s father on the Lithuanian border
  11. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 17 September 2018 17: 57
    +5
    and maybe really, and there was 'abrams' on the trailer lol
    1. GRF
      GRF 18 September 2018 05: 16
      0
      Abrams see, no? But he is!

      Yes, I feel that I will have to answer for my convictions ...
  12. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 17 September 2018 18: 04
    +6
    Right now, the United States will be excited by the number of exposures and accuse the Russian Federation of interfering in the investigation process :)
  13. Vita vko
    Vita vko 17 September 2018 18: 07
    +11
    Let's say in 2001, the Ukrainian S-200 air defense missile system mistakenly shot down the Russian Tu-154. Why did the Ukrainians again want to shoot at civilian aircraft? This was not a mistake, but a targeted attack!
    It is a pity that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will not yet publicize the causes of this terrorist action. But attentive professional air defense systems should have noticed that literally in one zone of destruction from Buk air defense missile systems and even in one sector of 1grad. (The air defense system was deployed to the village of Zaroshchenskoye) another civilian side was flying, about which the Russian Defense Ministry is still silent. According to trajectory characteristics (optimal height and speed, which is individual for each type), with the probability 90% this board can be identified as IL-96, i.e. Airborne squadron Russia. Who he could transport will become understandable if we analyze the visits of President Putin and members of the Government of Russia during this period. But the Russian side, despite a slightly higher speed, lagged behind and went higher. Probably the reason for the wind, which is very different in different echelons. Therefore, the operator ZRK BUK and captured the goal closer to the Russian border. When working autonomously without automated control systems, it is very easy to make a mistake even for an experienced operator (the identification system for foreign sides does not work).
    Pay attention to the primary radar information presented at the briefing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Two sides 0143 (Mn-17) and 4722 (Il-96) are in the same sector, about 1 deg near to Zaroshchenskogok. Moreover, the first was at a distance of 10-15 km, and the second 30-35 km (the difference in flight time is only a couple of minutes). Thus, while in the same beam, the SAM system captures primarily the closest target as the most dangerous, and in this case also the closest to the Russian Federation border, which became a decisive factor for the SAM target
    Several facts immediately prove that the provocation was thought out.
    First, why deploy air defense systems in an area dominated exclusively by its own aviation. This is at least dangerous due to the high probability of "friendly fire". Even during exercises, any aircraft, except for training purposes, is strictly forbidden to fly into the affected zones of the air defense missile system, and then there is hostilities.
    Secondly, many witnesses confirm the presence of a Ukrainian military aircraft Su-25 in the area. Obviously, according to the plan developed by the CIA, he had a different task. Namely, in accordance with the rules for suppressing air violations, from the beginning it is necessary to try to force the plane to land, and only then open fire on the aircraft. For these purposes, a military aircraft was needed: to indicate the fact of an attempt to force a landing, to control the destruction of the target and "black boxes" in which the dispatcher's command to change the route was recorded. The standard Ukrainian Su-27 and MiG-29 were not suitable for these purposes, very weak fragmentation protection (the scatter of pieces of the skin of a large aircraft reaches tens of kilometers).
    Consequently, the hunt for Ukrainian terrorists under the leadership of the US CIA was conducted precisely over the Russian side No. 1, and if a Russian aircraft were shot down, then a deviation from the route, the presence of a Ukrainian military aircraft in the area would be presented as protecting the airspace of Ukraine from Russian aggression.
    Thus, in this planned tragedy, everything becomes logical except that the wrong plane was shot down. The Ukrainian air defense system was hunted overboard by the President of Russia, and if the Ukrainian branch of the CIA had succeeded, then for 4 years all of Ukraine, and possibly Europe, has been drawn into a real war with Russia, which the United States has sought and is still seeking.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 17 September 2018 18: 23
      +3
      The version may have a right to exist, perhaps on board 1 they shot back, but here it is probably equipped with means such as the hibin. therefore, the missiles went to the Boeing.
    2. Awaz
      Awaz 17 September 2018 18: 49
      +13
      I’d like to add five cents to your words: when the tragedy happened, the story about the plane with Putin was discussed at many forums. I’m not going to argue now, since the topic has been forgotten, but the IL and Putin seemed to be supposed to either fly over Ukraine or somewhere nearby, but in the end left for Russia through Poland, so I couldn’t get under shelling of air defense of Ukraine. That is, there is a possibility that Ukraine wanted to bring down IL with Putin, but for anyone, as soon as it became clear that Putin would not fly over Ukraine, most likely the operation should have been closed. Here either sloppiness, or if it was not possible to fill up the plane with Putin, I decided to dump at least someone .. By love, there are people who gave the order for it, already knowing that Putin could not be reached.
      And the fact that this is not a Russian BUK, there’s no need to even guess. At that moment, the situation in LDNR was very deplorable, a mess and confusion: the fights were focal, that is, there was no front line and the troops of both sides often found themselves in the most unexpected places. And what would Russia use to drive the BUK into such hell, being not very sure that he would get to the place it had to be the last idiots. Besides everything else, the air defense of the republics, with difficulty, but quite successfully shot down most of the aircraft from Ukraine. High-flying pilots did not present any danger to the Armed Forces of Novorossia. It was easier to send hand-held MANPADS to Donetsk, which the rebels had used very well and shot down everything that was possible at low altitudes.
      From all this it can be seen that this was a planned action to destroy a civilian aircraft, authorized from the very top in the Ukrainian hierarchy of power, not without the approval of the curators. And nothing else is visible here ..
    3. Henderson
      Henderson 17 September 2018 20: 37
      -3
      Quote: Vita VKO
      The hunting of the Ukrainian air defense system was conducted overboard by the President of Russia

      You at least looked at the map, how many kilometers from the point of location of the beech to the borders of Ukraine. Then it would be compared with the radius of the defeat of the installation. And then they would stop flogging nonsense.
    4. Antares
      Antares 17 September 2018 21: 54
      -2
      Quote: Vita VKO
      Consequently, the hunt for Ukrainian terrorists under the leadership of the US CIA was conducted precisely over the Russian side No. 1

      then it was necessary to do this in Poland, since the BOARD No. One of the Russian Federation flew through it, and not Ukraine.
      A collection of conspiracy theories and conspiracy theories. Especially about Mig 29 and Su 27. Which are better suited for fighter targets than a ground attack aircraft ....
      Pictures with a huge fighter were also ....
  14. izya top
    izya top 17 September 2018 18: 23
    +6
    and to the west even piss in the eyes
  15. major147
    major147 17 September 2018 18: 27
    0
    And everything to the West is "God's dew"!
  16. Opera
    Opera 17 September 2018 18: 38
    +12
    And you didn’t notice that our people have been communicating with them for a long time in such a manner? laughing In the next branch, some comrades seriously discuss that the appearance of Petrov and Boshirov is almost a defeat for our special services from ... MI6 !!!!!! And now, look recently, Petrov and Boshirov were Putin’s chain dogs, murderers of beasts that didn’t know human emotions, and in general they seem to have been eliminated by other Putin’s beasts !!!! And suddenly rrraz and two such kiddies sit and talk about how Gothic buildings are loved and the old tower clocks ... They’ve been drawn to this watch all their lives and it seems like they don’t need a woman to watch this muddy Salisbury ... I did not understand this, what they have to blame for the gender inequality of such people?!?!?!
    1. Opera
      Opera 17 September 2018 18: 48
      +4
      Well ... Some sort of sympathetic MI6 ran past and set a minus! Be careful, gentlemen! bully
  17. Strashila
    Strashila 17 September 2018 19: 56
    +5
    According to the templates adopted about the Russians, only they can, when preparing an attack on an international civilian plane, carry in the daytime to an open rocket launcher, not even covered with combat missiles. Actually ... if you watch the "video", you can see the company's logo on the tractor ... then during this time the Western special services would have figured out the driver and the family would have taken it to the West as a witness ... and would have sung like a nightingale back in 2014 ...
  18. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 17 September 2018 19: 57
    +1
    Quote: Sergey Medvedev
    The most important thing, of course, is the number of the rocket! Khan is now Waltzman! How many are there before the election?

    Probably yes, trendy Waltzman.
    And most likely, he knew (ours couldn’t use this lever) that the part numbers of the BUK missile are known to us.
    How long was he held for sluggish fabergehow much poor he suffered, during this time.
    I didn’t expect everything today, so they will tell me tomorrow.
    Apparently Waltzman decided that he was an independent figure, began to do something inappropriate for a jackal sitting on a leash. So they decided to cut to hell without waiting ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 17 September 2018 20: 47
      +1
      Comrade Kim (Comrade Kim) Today, 19: 57 ... And most likely, he knew (ours couldn’t use this lever) that we know the part numbers of the BUK missile.
      How much time he was held for sluggish Faberge, how much poor he suffered, during this time.

      ... at today's briefing of the RF Ministry of Defense it was announced that the numbers of this product were published in MAY OF THIS YEAR by a joint commission (by the way, the ukronatsists are also in it, and therefore the bribes ALREADY cut the bitches under themselves), and it took several months to search for archives, interviewing witnesses , all the same, the year 1986, and most importantly - on the decision to declassify the data under the heading of a top secret ...
  19. Strashila
    Strashila 17 September 2018 20: 04
    +1
    On this topic, you can rephrase the words of Ostap from 12 chairs ... with the development of computer technology in the West, it is not difficult for anyone to mount a film about a Russian rocket launcher on Mars.
  20. GibSoN
    GibSoN 17 September 2018 21: 07
    -4
    Is there anyone else going on this game? Really? Not tired? Indeed, people have no problems ...
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 18 September 2018 03: 30
      +1
      Quote: GibSoN
      Indeed, people have no problems ...


      By you:

      Quote: GibSoN
      game


      Apparently everything is nothing.
  21. Tusv
    Tusv 17 September 2018 22: 21
    -2
    In fact, the Russian Defense Ministry brutally abused. From a linear perspective, the tractor turns right, because the Buk caterpillars look parallel and do not look at the vanishing point, well, never bully A direct perspective proves this directly wassat For me personally, a low-speed camera that can distort Staffage, that is, a moving object, is not proof
    It would seem a lilac little perspektivnyak? But no. Chiaroscuro and the reverse prove that the Sumerians with drug addicts in some hi
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 18 September 2018 00: 52
      +2
      According to the rocket, is there anything to say? Also "screwed up"?
  22. Vanek
    Vanek 18 September 2018 03: 40
    -3
    The Buk has no reverse gear.

    Citizens commentators! Are you out of your mind ???

    There is a tram. At the trolley bus. And at worst, the donkey has this same reverse gear.

    But military equipment does not. Are you pretending to be something?

    And how does he drop into the hangar ??? Before and there already, it unfolds inside?

    The car must be on the road! So as not to waste time turning around. What is called - sat down and went. Especially military.

    Show at least one hangar where the equipment is stern to the gate.
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 18 September 2018 04: 20
    +3
    It's hard to prove the obvious to the stoned - black is black. Know all those who are "silent" apparently by this and keep the dill on the capital "hook" - pull up, we will post all the satellite images. Our fellows were silent for three years and here you are. When this topic practically faded away. The creaks they are most worried about now, and the nature of the crime is similar to the "Buk" disappeared, then the Skripals disappeared.
  24. Avior
    Avior 18 September 2018 08: 38
    -3
    ordinary fake from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    The distortion of the picture occurs with all cheap lenses with a fixed focal length - cheap soap dishes, car DVRs, door video eyes, only the RF Ministry of Defense pretends that it does not know.
    Why is it so stupid to substitute?
    1. old friend
      old friend 18 September 2018 11: 33
      +2
      The fact is that then this video cannot serve as 100% proof. The Ministry of Defense did just that - it showed that this video has significant inconsistencies, which make it possible to doubt its correctness. And the video is not the main problem of the Ukrainian side, the part numbers and their "track record" are a real bomb.