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Red rematch in Primorye did not take place?

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For the first time in three years, a communist could win the election of the governor. But it does not seem to win - the “wonderful” turn in Primorye’s electoral preferences, which happened literally from 06.00 to 07.30 in the morning Vladivostok time, brought Andrei Tarasenko, the candidate from the “party of power”, to the first place.


At the time when this article was written, 99,10% of the votes of those who took part in the second round of maritime elections was calculated. According to the CEC, 49,55% voted for Andrei Tarasenko, and 48,6% voted for communist Andrei Ishchenko. An hour and a half ago, Ischenko won by a margin of more than three percent, and given the fact that less than four percent of the ballots remained uncounted, the chances of Tarasenko for the final victory were purely theoretical.

However, as they say, “let's wait for the summing-up of the official voting results”: whether the authorities will go to a frank forgery or will reasonably agree with a local defeat before it is completely clear.



The first comments have already appeared, in which the voting of the Primorye is called purely protest. And this is definitely the case. Still, this is not all that we need to know for a deeper understanding of the situation.

I must admit that the choice of Andrei Tarasenko was initially not very successful. Yes, he is a sailor, in the past he is the commander of a nuclear submarine, which implies some connection with such a maritime region as Primorye. And in this sense, the choice of Kremlin political technologists was quite justified. But the problem is that the candidate from the ruling party was in principle not very prepared for such a serious leadership position, and this began to manifest itself quite soon.

The fact that Andrei Tarasenko is very far from the hopes and aspirations of Primorye residents became clear in February, when he took the initiative to tighten control over the collection of pine nuts, respectively, toughening and punishing. All this was accompanied by the usual rhetoric about the protection of nature, the conservation of taiga and the salvation of biodiversity. But this did not prevent the officials from deploying parallel work on leasing plots of taiga to various companies, and it became immediately clear to any adequate person: the administration also wants to feed on pine nuts.

Probably, we will not go into the problem of collecting pine nuts in Primorye - there really isn’t everything going smoothly and something needs serious attention. But let's leave it to the experts. We need to understand that residents of dozens of villages and villages in the Primorsky Territory are waiting for the cedar season as one of the rare opportunities to earn some living money. And this area has so far been decriminalized - collecting a cedar cone, a person did not feel himself a poacher or a criminal. The lumps often went to the field with the whole family (with the exception of old and small), and in the harvest year this taiga harvest could really provide people for the months ahead.

An attempt on this fishery immediately made Tarasenko a stranger in the eyes of tens of thousands of Primorye residents. And in the following months, nothing happened that would somehow convince the inhabitants of the seaside backslide to the contrary.

The election campaign of the Kremlin's favorite was rather mediocre. Pumping up voters through the local media, to which literally everyone was hooked, including local “people's artists”, was, in general, quite ordinary and expected. But he himself. the governor also didn’t have much inventiveness, he’d told 600 about the billions of investments his team had found for the Nakhodka agglomeration, then he’d tell how they would fight coal dust in this port city (usually the struggle was reduced to the fact that I had double-glazed windows and forbidden to carry coal on trucks by day, but at night, when this was not so obvious, dump trucks lined up from the coal warehouses to the berths non-stop).

Well, the most egregious case of lies was an advertisement for the second round of elections, where, on behalf of Tarasenko, the seaside pensioners were promised to double the pension. It should be noted that on the very first day of posting this ad on social networks, real hell broke out in the comments to it - the Primorye people were not shy in expressions and didn’t get into their pockets. But in the end, the comments were simply turned off, and the brazen lies continued to be distributed.

I hope that what has been said above will slightly clarify the situation with what the candidate of authority is. He himself had a hand in his current difficult situation, and probably, it’s still not worthwhile to throw everything into the protest of the Primorye people against the increase in pensions. Had the “elites” more suitable, not such a gray, faceless, uninteresting candidate, the elections in Primorye would hardly have become such a blatant challenge for the authorities.

However, the strength of the protest component of the vote should not be underestimated either.

It so happened that it was during the preparation for the second round of elections in Primorye that the Eastern Economic Forum was held. Andrei Tarasenko, although he was not his main star, was present at the events of the forum regularly and did not forget to demonstrate his closeness to the “top”. It is said that he was even congratulated on his victory - he was so ahead of Ischenko after the first round and the second round seemed like a mere formality.

But it was this economic chatter, or rather, the pseudo-economic verbiage, which was probably the last straw that overwhelmed the patience of the residents of Vladivostok and the surrounding area. Primoryans had to hear a little more than other Russians to hear about the government’s success, about the right road, along which we are heading towards a bright future, about loyalty to the approaches to pension reform, and about many other things that are equally encouraging and inspiring. As a result, the candidate of power, promptly unzipping the WEF, scored such a number of votes that the legitimacy of his election will always be questionable for the Primorye ...

The fact that the voting of the coastal voters was very much protesting is confirmed by the fact that Andrei Tarasenko practically did not improve his performance in comparison with the first round. That is, even then he chose the maximum number of votes on which the “party of power” and its representative could count. In the second round, those who first voted for other candidates went to the polls with a clear position: for anyone, but not for Tarasenko!

Separately, it should be noted that Andriy Ishchenko is not at all some sort of political giant at the local level. Common entrepreneur, sympathizing with the Communists. A sort of “Grudinin in Primorye”, but instead of strawberries - the construction business. He was not very well known before these elections, he was not remembered by any outstanding election campaign, rhetorical beauties and political technological findings.

The usual, completely ordinary candidate. And this allows us to draw the following conclusion: voting for Ischenko, Primorye voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. For the Communist Party and against the "United Russia", if it is absolutely accurate. You can relate to this as you please, but if you face the truth, the authorities have something to think about after these elections.
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  1. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 14: 09
    +25
    I will say the words of I.V. Stalin (though it is incorrect to compare parasites and thieves from ep and Stalin): It does not matter how they vote, it is important how the votes are counted.
    And then they will be surprised that the next "Primorsk partisans" have appeared.
    Of course, I am not an adviser, but er should moderate his appetites in theft and permissiveness. And then (the words of the classic), no matter what happens.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 17 September 2018 14: 19
      +30
      We have not chosen the head of the settlement (who is from the United Russia), so I am howling in local networks, and the village will collapse, but whom did you choose, it does not even have a fence ... The daughter of the former head cried most of all, she was so offended by the fellow villagers who turned out to be - ... ungrateful! Even the proposals from the "lured" went like, but let's collect signatures to consider the elections invalid ... That's it.
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 17 September 2018 15: 34
        +5
        Quote: Fitter65
        but let's collect signatures to consider the elections not valid ... That's it.

        Interestingly, and the Communist Party just wipes out? (then the people and ask who will not)
        1. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 16: 09
          +7
          It’s going to be rubbed off. Not the first time. 1996 is an example.
          1. CALL.
            CALL. 17 September 2018 20: 36
            +15
            I will say the words of I.V. Stalin (though it is incorrect to compare parasites and thieves from ep and Stalin): It does not matter how they vote, it is important how the votes are counted.


            The author of the well-known phrase “it doesn’t matter how they vote, but it is important how they count” is Napoleon III. He said it after another plebiscite in France.
            Comrade Stalin simply rephrased them: “In bourgeois countries, it’s important not how they vote, but how they count”. First appeared in the memoirs of defector B. Bazhanov (in France, 1.1.1928) http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/BAZHANOW/stalin.txt Full quote “You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “what I think about this: I believe that it does not matter who and how will vote in the party; but what’s extremely important is who and how will count the votes. ” However, it is highly doubtful that Stalin spoke this clearly compromising phrase in public.
            1. albert
              albert 17 September 2018 20: 54
              0
              Quote: Z.O.V.
              The author of the well-known phrase “it doesn’t matter how they vote, but it is important how they count” is Napoleon III. He said it after another plebiscite in France.

              I heard the version that Pinochet said during his election.
            2. Nikolai Petrov
              Nikolai Petrov 18 September 2018 05: 51
              0
              As an option, I will not argue with you. Nevertheless, the meaning of this phrase today is up to date.
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 17 September 2018 17: 19
          -3
          “An ordinary, completely ordinary candidate.” Well, yes. Ishchenko will give Tarasenko a head start with his carp :-))

          If someone has been banned from Google, then Ishchenko is also that ..., and one of the people who, with their construction business, had a hand in shared construction in the city, from which defrauded equity holders have been holding rallies for more than one year. So, he is still that swindler and lover to "snatch his own".
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 18 September 2018 04: 13
            +13
            Quote: Nosgoth
            Ishchenko is still that ..., and one of the people who had a hand in his construction business ...

            My vague suspicions creep in. Shpak has a tape recorder, the ambassador has a medallion, Ishchenko has deceived equity holders, Grudinin has deceived shareholders ... belay One Medvedev with his shobla in a white tailcoat ... fellow The country has never seen such a shameful government. The Saviors of the Fatherland played a play. Who is being saved and from whom. Soon there will be no one to save. For twenty-five years, this power has only been trying to fight against the devastation that the Soviet power left them as a legacy. And they themselves eat in three throats, cut off and shameless. Everything that was of any value went into private hands. This power is worse than marauders. Although they do not hide their intentions, these people convince the people of their exclusivity. And there is only one exclusivity - "elite" scum and scoundrels living at someone else's expense.
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 18 September 2018 17: 21
              -1
              You have doubts and sofa analytics ("someone said somewhere, but I personally did not see or hear, but I condemn") and I have a wife who worked in the next office with Ishchenko (of course in different firms, an office building) and witnessed the collection of money and fairy tales "in the ears". Ishchenko collected money for shared construction, but the houses have not yet been built, and is he not to blame?

              But the defrauded real estate investors rub each month with their rallies and requests to do something with such cunning ones as Ishchenko. All who go to power (the majority) go to grab more, and get away from punishment.

              So, you shouldn't divide them into good and bad. Medvedev is no better than Ishchenko, but no worse (each “muddies” at his own level).
        3. evgen1221
          evgen1221 17 September 2018 19: 00
          +3
          The Communist Party has always lost its way — they, like the Liberal Democratic Party, make money first of all for their loved ones and in the second screen and pocket opposition to the services of the authorities to blow off a couple of the population’s whistle. Bushkov described it well
        4. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 17 September 2018 22: 19
          +1
          The Communist Party has long lost everything ... One restructuring of what it cost ... All these "communists" --- Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Ligachevs, Krvchuks, Kuchmas ... And there were also loyal sons of Komsomol secretaries ... grabbed! This is whose fault it is. You cannot enter the same water twice. I hate these two-faced.
          1. MstislavHrabr
            MstislavHrabr 17 September 2018 23: 43
            +3
            All whom you called from the Communist Party fled Pts. long...
      2. user
        user 17 September 2018 19: 17
        +6
        We have not chosen the head of the settlement (which is from EP), so much in the local networks howl.


        In Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk, the intergovernmental governors did not mention a single mention in the interview or in the commercials that they were representatives of United Russia, and in Krasnoyarsk the intergovernmental governor of Uss is the head of the regional branch of EP. These are the new nominees, so no one expects anything good from them.

        They did not say anything, a trifle, but a remarkable fact.
    2. Sadko88
      Sadko88 17 September 2018 14: 25
      -18
      Double standards of the Communist Party. It’s not good to steal, but let’s leave it to specialists. You need to put things in order, but Tarasenko is too strict. The commander of a submarine, but it’s a bit small for Primorye, but the businessman Ishchenko, well-known for scandals. Just the time to develop new investments in the Primorsky Territory. With the logic of the Communist Party impeccably smile
      Ishchenko’s success is primarily a low turnout. We’ll wait for the rest of the information from the CEC Commission
      1. mavrus
        mavrus 17 September 2018 14: 41
        +4
        Well, it’s you mahanuli ... Low turnout, this is "voting with your feet." The people simply did not show up at the polling stations in advance, assuming that there would be a "finishing spurt" or something else like that.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 17
          +1
          Quote: mavrus
          Low turnout is "voting with your feet." The people simply did not show up at the polling stations in advance, assuming that there would be a "finishing spurt" or something else like that.

          No.
          This vote is empty-handed. That is, no voting at all.
          Citizens themselves took for some kind of devil and expelled from the process.
          And now it's too late to yell. I had to go to the polls. Maybe there would be a gap of not 4%, but at least 10%.
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 17 September 2018 18: 54
            -5
            No not like this. We did it right. Everything is simple - it dawned on people that no matter how they vote, the Party of Power will "win" anyway. Therefore, they did not come. Let's wait until the simple idea that the current authorities will never give up power in a good, civilized manner, to anyone and for anything, the majority will never think of it and firmly gain a foothold there. I do not think long to wait. And then it will be possible and think about what to do. Everything has its time.
            P.S. You cannot hide empty areas, you cannot fake them, and you cannot throw them in. They clearly demonstrate to people - there are many of us who are tired of lies and put an end to this power. And this is a strong signal.
      2. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 14: 42
        +10
        Sadko, I'm not talking about the Communist Party. She buried herself in 1996. I'm talking about ghouls from ep.
        1. Sadko88
          Sadko88 17 September 2018 14: 52
          +3
          I am not against the Communist Party or any other interested in the development of Russia. Opposition should be. That is not a foreign agent. I am against duplicity and hypocrisy in slogans. Against violation of election campaign by anyone. Strongly against violation of any laws of the Russian Federation. Let's look at the conclusions of the special commission. And the behavior of losers choices soldier
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 17 September 2018 15: 08
            +13
            I am not against the Communist Party or any other interested in the development of Russia. The opposition should be. That is not a foreign agent.

            This is when the Communist Party was a foreign agent? Is the story about Kaiser's capital coming out again now?
            . I am against duplicity and hypocrisy in slogans. Against violation of election campaign by anyone. Strongly against violation of any laws of the Russian Federation.

            So you have to be against the current government, don’t you?
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 19
              -18
              The authorities are accused of violating the law, that is, deceiving citizens, adherents of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
              By any law, any country - iron evidence is required. Not howling on the Internet, but evidence.
              Well, obviously, in my opinion.
              1. Dante Alighieri
                Dante Alighieri 17 September 2018 15: 50
                +7
                I love the thieves in law, they are so reverent about the letter of normative legal acts that they forget about their spirit, that is. the moral side of the law, which, as it were, no one canceled, though not prescribed. Yes, and the advocates of the law relate to it very specifically: for themselves personally, they are ready to close their eyes not some crimes / inconsistencies / gaps, if they are beneficial to them, but for everyone else they demand impeccable blind obedience to the postulates, which they themselves follow only from time to time.
                Laws are written by people and for people, often for a very modest stratum of people. They are not a reflection of God's will or the essence of the universal mind.
                As for the fact that criticizing the authorities and accusing them of abuse is allegedly illegal, in my opinion such allegations are akin to fascism, which is not aimed only at the superiority of a race or nation, but about the peremptory and non-jurisdiction of those in power.
                Ps if you need specific examples or arguments, I have them. But I'm not going to share them. Search and find; knock, and they will open it to you; for everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
              2. MstislavHrabr
                MstislavHrabr 17 September 2018 23: 47
                +5
                PENSION REFORM has become the most iron proof!
            2. Sadko88
              Sadko88 17 September 2018 15: 56
              -12
              I did not mean the Communist Party smile I mean outside the systemic opposition like Parnassus ... I was in opposition to EBN before V.V. Putin. The work of this government suits me. I voted for the president. Kosyachat mainly in the field. And the farther from Moscow, the more. But show me an example of a country where problems are created by all and sundry, where there are no problems. Opposition should be beneficial, not exacerbate problems from within.
              1. Dante Alighieri
                Dante Alighieri 17 September 2018 16: 12
                +8
                That’s why there is a pike so that crucian carp doesn’t doze off ... Answer me, is power, if it really cares for the people and knows that the people support it, will it be afraid of some political freaks out there? If behind it is the real support of the masses, and not the administrative-bureaucratic apparatus. And if, nevertheless, to be afraid, then it is not so absolute and not so popular. I am glad for you that this power suits you. But how many of you are there? Here on the resource is full of those who, despite the fact that they cast their votes in March for your candidate, but after his first steps who feel cheated, loyal and humiliated. Or does their opinion mean nothing and are they just a statistical error?
                Again, I'm not saying that those who are not happy with the majority, on the contrary, there are about the same as those who express their approval. The rest (percent 70% in my opinion) fluctuate between them, at some points supporting one or the other. But they are easy to persuade to their side: show not in language, but in deed that they are able to change something constructively and they will follow you to death. Do not go? So you are doing something wrong. As an indicator, among my friends, the age of 27-30 no one will die for power. No one.
                And, please, do not talk about the local authorities: they live and function in the environment that they predetermined from above.
                1. Sadko88
                  Sadko88 17 September 2018 16: 50
                  +2
                  In my opinion, it is the duty of everyone first of all not to die as long as possible and to take care of their family. Dying for power or against it is something that must not be allowed in any case. Any wars, especially religious or class wars, are destructive. The state that allowed this is easy prey. To admit it is a crime. And every leader in the regions who does not cope with his duties, thereby strikes across the country. Therefore, the rotation of managers is so important. Those who can be trusted resources. In fact, there are not so many of them as vacancies. Any incompetent head of the village may ruin the work of the governor. If you choose only from your own, sooner or later theft will flourish. The locals themselves will suffer. Call Putin hotline. And the resources have already been mastered ...
                2. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 18 September 2018 04: 23
                  -1
                  Quote: Dante
                  And if nevertheless she is afraid (b), then it is not so absolute and not so popular.

                  If she was afraid, she would not shit like that. These people are afraid that something might turn out. The number of citizens from the people - members of EdRa, the specificity of the laws for the government and for the people can speak about the nationality of power. One "Zolotovskaya" derzhimorda is worth something. These are definitely for the people.
                  Laws and concepts are two different topics. A life built on fear for your future will not be long and happy.
    3. Victor N
      Victor N 17 September 2018 14: 41
      +2
      "Theft" and "permissiveness" - a proven fact?
      1. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 14: 57
        +23
        Victor, take an interest in several Poklonskaya suitcases that she handed over to the FSB. But lawmakers, no, did not dismiss Poklonskaya, they simply liquidated by voting the committee that she headed (just on the income of the servants of the people). That’s the whole story.
        1. 2329 Carpenter
          2329 Carpenter 17 September 2018 23: 13
          +1
          Does Poklonskaya not have suitcases from Gdlyan and Ivanov? About which we have heard so much, but no one has ever seen them.
          And why exactly suitcases?
          Poklonskaya is a pretty girl. Suitcases somehow did not suit her ...
          There are all kinds of backpacks, sports bags there ...
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 18 September 2018 04: 28
            0
            Quote: Carpenter 2329
            And why exactly suitcases?

            Because Ulyukaev has a gym bag ... Are you kidding yourself on purpose or is it like that from birth? Even in the media, owned by oligarchs, there is a daily summary of the officials who steal. The unrestrained craving for money-grubbing over the past 25 years has gathered only "ONE MINDES" into power. yes
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 20
        -10
        Of course, untested.
        But the fighters with the regime do not need this. They need to remove the mode.
        Any way.
        1. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 15: 55
          +4
          Regarding the regime, the regime is quite happy, especially in the external direction. But the most important destabilizer of the political situation in the country is the EP and the State Duma controlled by it. I think it’s not worth explaining further.
        2. pormezan
          pormezan 24 September 2018 10: 29
          -1
          And in Armenia, the regime was very successfully changed. No civil war. The army and riot police sided with the people and the pension has already increased by 60%. Thieves are seated and their property confiscated. But is it because Putin likes to cover the unsuccessful Ukrainian Maidan 4 years ago in the media and does not like fresh successful Armenian?
      3. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 17 September 2018 20: 21
        -4
        It evident fact
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 17 September 2018 14: 47
      +4
      Quote: Nikolai Petrov
      I will say the words of I.V. Stalin (though it is incorrect to compare parasites and thieves from ep and Stalin): It does not matter how they vote, it is important how the votes are counted.
      And then they will be surprised that the next "Primorsk partisans" have appeared.
      Of course, I am not an adviser, but er should moderate his appetites in theft and permissiveness. And then (the words of the classic), no matter what happens.

      So they (EP) now feel like they are full masters of life, they have completely lost their reality and connection with the outside world, like their bear leaders with Putin.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 35
        -17
        If you call tryndzh on the Internet the real world - then yes, they have lost.
    5. TAMBU
      TAMBU 17 September 2018 14: 51
      0
      When, where and to whom did Comrade Stalin say this?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 21
        -3
        It’s written on the Internet.
        Which means for most brain teens that’s the holy truth.
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 17 September 2018 18: 30
          0
          I still hope to get an answer ... well, that is, I know him, but out of pure curiosity and for educational purposes =)
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 17 September 2018 19: 44
          -5
          Slow down too Olginsky laughing
          With such brain hemorrhages it’s better to Fritzmorgen, there you will be in place lol
          1. TAMBU
            TAMBU 20 September 2018 16: 53
            0
            To whom? It looks like you understand this topic, I personally have no idea what you're talking about ... by the way, have you been shown for a long time to your place?
            1. Beringovsky
              Beringovsky 20 September 2018 17: 12
              0
              It was actually Mestny’s answer, it’s strange how the site works
    6. d1975
      d1975 17 September 2018 16: 06
      +3
      good That's for sure !
      The usual, completely ordinary candidate. And this allows us to draw the following conclusion: voting for Ischenko, Primorye voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. For the Communist Party and against the "United Russia", if it is absolutely accurate. You can relate to this as you please, but if you face the truth, the authorities have something to think about after these elections.
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    8. letinant
      letinant 18 September 2018 05: 40
      +1
      Do not ascribe generosity to the "seaside partisans", they are ghouls! But the EP, you have to think about it.
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  3. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 17 September 2018 14: 18
    +15
    EP spokesman's jerk impressive
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 17 September 2018 14: 27
      +17
      And fire exercises are impressive right during the work of election commissions.
      [media = https: //videotop.online/show/1awW5QknLQ8/pojar-v-izbiratelnoy-komissii-ili-kak-prohodyat-vybory-gubernatora-v-primorskom-krae.html]
      What a concern for the safety of residents!
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 17 September 2018 15: 21
        +12
        At three Ussuriisk PECs, edros Tarasenko scored 100% each. belay
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 17 September 2018 19: 30
        +3
        Quote: forty-eighth
        fire drills right during the work of election commissions

        what elections can we talk about when even civil servants are attracted to violation fellow
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 26
      -10
      Yeah, it's okay.
      Only wrong.
      I give a hint - in such graphs the numbers do not match NEVER - due to the presence of spoiled ballot papers.
      Try to work harder.
      1. pormezan
        pormezan 24 September 2018 10: 33
        -1
        And who spoils them? And, most importantly, ballots with ticks in whose boxes are members of the election commission from United Russia diligently spoiling? And I don’t have to say, "What were you standing with a candle?" Yes, I did.
  4. kakvastam
    kakvastam 17 September 2018 14: 36
    +19
    the authorities have something to think about after these elections.
    Judging by the events of recent months, the authorities are not going to just think about something, and even more so - to negotiate.
    Typical behavior of a tyrant: "As I said, so it will be!" In the short term, it may work, but if the situation deteriorates further, "dedicated monarchists" may not defend.
    For all the controversy of Mr. Putin’s figure, I used to think he was much smarter ...
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    2. Mestny
      Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 31
      -20
      You can read anything in your kitchen. To talk about the correct structure of the state, for example, as we like.
      And those who really govern this state know better than us.
      And the situation is this - the people will not yet massively vote against the government. What really happens.
      1. pormezan
        pormezan 24 September 2018 10: 35
        -1
        A lie of pure water. In all elections, the result was rigged in favor of the authorities. And the people really need to be rocked and taught to defend their rights, otherwise we will slide into serfdom at such a pace for a couple of years.
  5. tasha
    tasha 17 September 2018 14: 38
    -1
    And this allows us to draw the following conclusion: by voting for Ishchenko, Primorsky voted for the Communist Party

    In the first round of elections, 206300 people voted for Tarasenko, and 109129 for Ishchenko ..
    So still:
    against United Russia, to be exact.
    ... The advantage in favor of Tarasenko almost doubled following the results of the first round-this is an occasion to think for the Communist Party ...
    1. Nikolai Petrov
      Nikolai Petrov 17 September 2018 15: 08
      +22
      And Tarasenko-Ishchenko ?! This permissiveness is simply fed up with people. Er: What I want, I turn over. Well, about the miracle laws from EP, I think it’s not worth telling anyone, everyone knows that. Although for hell with horns are ready, but against ep.
      And about the new laws and reforms, a joke (doesn’t resemble anything) ?: A macaque sits on a tree eating a banana. A fox runs through the woods, a tongue on his shoulder, a dust pillar.
      Monkey: Where are you going to run so red?
      Lisa: What didn’t you hear? In our forest, a new tax was introduced on furs, there will be 3 skins to tear.
      A monkey throws a banana and flies forward foxes.
      Lisa: And where are you golozadaya?
      Monkey: I don’t know our forest, they’ll start from the Holozades.
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 18 September 2018 06: 43
        -1
        After it became clear that a second round of voting would be held, many of those who did not vote in the first round came to polling stations. This also explains Ishchenko’s percentage.
  6. igorra
    igorra 17 September 2018 14: 54
    +17
    Under Stalin, the EP with all the Kodla would have long been digging a tunnel to Sakhalin by hand, under the leadership of the foreman V.V. Putin. For good work, maybe they would let go of the bumps, feed themselves and relax.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 33
      -14
      Under Stalin (if you believe the myths of the neocommunists), everyone who just snapped to the side of power, for example, here in VO, would already dig and saw.
  7. Terenin
    Terenin 17 September 2018 15: 15
    +11
    You can talk a lot about this fact, but for me, Ishchenko definitely defeated.
  8. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 17 September 2018 15: 23
    -6
    at least they called themselves socialists, or else to be a communist in an oligarchic country ... do they want everything back to the bosom of the state?
    1. pormezan
      pormezan 24 September 2018 10: 36
      -1
      What bothers you? The experience of Norway, the Arab countries do not like?
  9. Mestny
    Mestny 17 September 2018 15: 28
    -7
    Quote: Nikolai Petrov
    This permissiveness is simply fed up with people. Er: What I want, I turn over. Well, about the miracle laws from EP, I think it’s not worth telling anyone, everyone knows that. Although for hell with horns are ready, but against ep.

    If they had voted like that, there would be no questions.
    So they did not come at all. Like, in protest ..
    And this is an occasion to think for the Communist Party as well - but does the people consider their own field to be a berry with EP and the rest?
  10. Dante Alighieri
    Dante Alighieri 17 September 2018 15: 29
    +15
    I’ll insert my 5 kopecks, nevertheless, a political scientist’s diploma obliges me, although my practical interests lay in the plane of geopolitics and geoeconomics.
    These elections are significant. They are significant in that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in almost all regions has withdrawn from the active pre-election struggle, although it would seem following the words of its postulates - the moment is the most suitable ... But no. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation (or rather Uncle Zyu) deliberately eliminated its candidates from participating in the elections in the most interesting and most conceptually important regions (Moscow Region, Novosibirsk, Altai Territory). But even despite this, the latent protest potential turned out to be so high that the people, contrary to the opinion of the party bosses, are trying to push through "their favorites" (in fact, they are far from this epithet, but their key quality is not that they are Ishchenko, Grudinins, Prusakovs, but the fact that they are outside the power vertical) where it is still possible. I'm afraid to imagine what would have happened to Grudinin, hardened in the presidential election race, to come out against the "king of Moscow dumps" Vorobyov. Or, as in my native Altai Territory: if the beautiful "Komsomol member" Maria Prusakova went against the red-haired offshore accountant Prokhorov - Viktor Tomenko. I suppose there would be no wet place from these exaggerated candidates ...
    Even with a purely visual
    looks much more presentable than this
    At least for the male half of voters (and for the female one too). And on this one could make additional voices. Not taking advantage of this moment is blasphemy.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 17 September 2018 16: 10
      -9
      Quote: Dante
      political scientist’s diploma obliges, although my practical interests lay in the plane geopolitics and geoeconomy.

      I'm sorry, but not any geo in the world does not exist, if only because there is no unambiguous understanding by all of either geopolitics or geoeconomics. There is:

      - internal policies pursued in relation to citizens of their country;
      - external policies pursued in relation to citizens of other countries;
      - global Policies for all citizens of the Earth.

      It was permissible to talk about geopolitics before the advent of the railroads — until the development of internal territories, when the fleet could block any state and impose its own conditions on it. Today it does not work. So scum in the trash terms with the prefix geo and move on to mastering the term global.
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 17 September 2018 16: 34
        +5
        Excuse me, do you have a degree in this field? It's just that my teachers had it. Moreover, the Russian Academy of Sciences, and some also the USSR, although the latter mainly in philosophy, and not in political science. And questions of terminology are the first things that a normal scientific work begins with. So, my terminology did not cause any complaints, it is used everywhere in literature and scientific casuistry, so ... I prefer to stay in my positions. However, this is somewhat beyond the scope of this issue.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 September 2018 17: 25
          -2
          Quote: Dante
          However, this is somewhat beyond the scope of this issue.

          And for fun, ask your colleagues how they understand what geopolitics is. I am sure that instead of giving me clear definitions, you’ll hear a verbose monologue and it will not always coincide with your ideas. If people pronounce the same words, putting different meanings in them, then this is not a science - this is a bazaar.

          Geopolitics is a Western "science" designed to explain the processes taking place in the supersystem of humanity, related to interstate relations, in terms of geographic factors. It is noteworthy that today there is no clear definition of geopolitics and this phenomenon in the life of society is interpreted differently each time: “Until now, the scientific literature does not have a clear and complete formulation of the concept of“ geopolitics. ”This is a characteristic feature of all emerging sciences. and the subject of geopolitics have been going on for about a hundred years. The concept of "geopolitics" is often interpreted extremely broadly. As a result, this science loses its inherent features, its boundaries become extremely blurred, turning into the subject of economic, political, military-strategic, natural resource, environmental and other disciplines, international relations, foreign policy, etc. "
  11. Altona
    Altona 17 September 2018 15: 40
    +19

    Here are the numbers for you, as Tarasenko was rigged. This is the data of the Communist Party.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 17 September 2018 16: 58
      -7
      Ah, well, if the Communist Party, and even from the Internet-then the truth is, of course.
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 18 September 2018 06: 56
        0
        Well, the data that the krayzberk gives out are not questioned. They said how they cut it off.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 September 2018 21: 54
      -1
      The evidence is really undeniable - not a single signature, stamp, another plate for Internet fools, the court will not accept this as evidence.
  12. shirkoled
    shirkoled 17 September 2018 16: 07
    +4
    Yes, the vote count won in Primorye! Not elections, namely the vote count !!!
  13. Next
    Next 17 September 2018 16: 24
    -4
    Revenge? Theater with clowns! And the people deserve such treatment of themselves. The main thing is that the herd should go to the polls, that is, turnout is needed. And who needs to be scattered. But seriously, it turned out too stupid, no fantasy. But then again, why should you be so smart with such people ... Go on to the ballot boxes, something really depends on you there, just don’t whine later that you have to go to the ballot boxes with garbage for food.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 17 September 2018 17: 00
      +1
      You can’t even imagine how the elections are actually organized.
      Thanks to people like you, people do not go to the polls, but the Communist Party or other opposition is losing.
      Is that clear?
  14. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 17 September 2018 16: 36
    -1
    wassat in Togliatti, the general winner of the Communist Party gave so !!!! voluntarily!!! Key posts in the Duma good
    Motivating Caring for Voters crying
  15. Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 17 September 2018 16: 58
    0
    For the Communist Party! definitely! no other options, this is obvious ...
    but it seems the moment has not come yet ... mnogohodovka? no ... SHOW!
  16. Altona
    Altona 17 September 2018 18: 12
    0
    Quote: Mestny
    Ah, well, if the Communist Party, and even from the Internet-then the truth is, of course.

    -------------------------
    The observers have copies of the protocols, compared with the system data and published.
  17. Viktor77
    Viktor77 17 September 2018 20: 27
    0
    And does anyone know what percentage of turnout is in the whole country? And how many of those who voted for United Russia?
    Then calculate the percentage of voters for EP of all voters!
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 September 2018 20: 58
    0
    Such fortels will not go in vain, in vain they are so brazenly substituted. You can’t take off the population from the account. They will remember.
    1. DPN
      DPN 17 September 2018 22: 23
      +1
      the population is those who have dual citizenship, you know what they call others.
  19. DPN
    DPN 17 September 2018 22: 21
    +1
    as the head said it will be so, and the head put EP, the rest went to hell.
  20. Peter Smith
    Peter Smith 18 September 2018 01: 35
    +2
    still good.
  21. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 18 September 2018 11: 36
    0
    I will say this. What difference does it make to steal? Pensions, budget money, votes ......
    While the people are sitting and watching
    TNT with beer in addition
    or fries in the output barbecue in the country
    Everybody's taken, ker is clear
    bear cubs EP.

    You have to go to the polls. There will be a turnout - it will become harder and more expensive to falsify.
    At all, 500 r-1000r per voice you can’t save
  22. Clone
    Clone 18 September 2018 23: 34
    +1
    ... authorities have something to think about after these elections.
    Nope. They think about something when they have something to think about. And the so-called "winners" are now "dizzy with success" ...
  23. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 19 September 2018 13: 46
    +1
    It is necessary to conduct a 3rd round. The tour is under full control and video fixation online on the Internet. The authorities push their way, the people don’t want. The matter is not in the Communist Party. It’s just that the whole party of Russia is tired of the EP party of power. The elections must be canceled! I believe that there should be a local official, not a mishandled Cossack. And it doesn’t matter that he was born here. He is a stranger to us. It's like putting a foreigner instead of Putin.
  24. Larum
    Larum 19 September 2018 17: 40
    0
    No matter how they vote, it’s important how they count ...

    But the Communist Party knows the rules of the game. Zyuganov wants to live, and not just another plane crash with a presidential candidate.
    Therefore, he says something only further from Moscow, and when there are no “respected” people nearby.

    And in PZHV not fools, therefore in Primorye they will win for sure.
  25. Igoresha
    Igoresha 19 September 2018 18: 56
    0
    White won again