Il-2 discovered on the Kola Peninsula will be restored in Novosibirsk

The Il-2 attack aircraft raised from the bottom of the Kulong lake in the Murmansk region in August of this year will be delivered on September 17 to the Novosibirsk State Technical University, where they will be engaged in its restoration, reports RG, citing the press service of the university.

According to the doctor of technical sciences, professor of the Department of Strength of Aircraft of the University of Vladimir Burns, under whose leadership the attack aircraft will be restored, the Il-2 discovered in the Murmansk region is the only single-version aircraft in the world that has survived. Full restoration of the aircraft to flight status will take at least four years, after which it is planned to use the attack aircraft at air shows and air shows around the world.

Earlier in the Novosibirsk State Technical University, two attack aircraft Il-2, which are already participating in airshows around the world, have already been restored to flight status.

According to the winged memory of the Victory Foundation, which was engaged in lifting the aircraft, the commander of the 3rd squadron of the 46th Assault Regiment of the North flew an attack aircraft fleet Captain Alexander Kalichev. He was hit by an anti-aircraft gun on August 22, 1943 during the attack of the enemy Luostari airfield, but was able to reach his territory and land the plane on the surface of the lake. After Kalichev left the plane, the IL-2 sank at a depth of 18 meters. Kalichev went through the whole war and left the army with the rank of lieutenant colonel in 1955.

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[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Pilot Alexander Ivanovich Kalichev was born in 1909. From May 10, 1942 to January 29, 1943, he served in the Air Force of the Black Sea Fleet, and from January 29, 1943 - in the Northern Fleet. He retired from the army in 1955 with the rank of lieutenant colonel. He was awarded the Order of the Red Banner, the Order of Lenin, the Order of the Patriotic War of the 1st Degree, the Medal for Military Merit, the Medal for the Defense of the Caucasus, the Order of the Red Star and the Order of the Patriotic War of the 2nd Degree.

[bald]

Aristarchus, thanks for the details.

[bald]

It’s not fair to set classes for tragedy, this does not apply to VO.

[2329 Carpenter]

But there is no tragedy. The pilot is alive. Reached his. He fought before the Victory. Worthy rewards, worthy service.
The plane over there even found him. Raised, will live again!
We must be happy!

[tlauicol]

Just a trailer with Il passed through the gates of the faculty of LA past my house.

[Severok]

The lakes of the peninsula are still full of secrets to be discovered.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Recently, the Il-2 attack aircraft, which was rebuilt by the Winged Victory Memory Foundation with the support of Il, has again flown up from the Zhukovsky airfield. This plane was lifted from the bottom of Lake Krivoe in the Murmansk region, where it lay for more than 70 years.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The reconstructed IL-2 in Novosibirsk in 2018 made a flight to Berlin to participate in an air show to please local grandfathers.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

The reconstructed IL-2 in Novosibirsk in 2018 made a flight to Berlin to participate in an air show to please local grandfathers.

In Berlin, a genetic memory worked for the population and when he saw IL-2 in the sky, at the same time the German population began to lay bricks ..

[seregatara1969]

let the most terrible bomber Po-2 on them - let life rejoice

[Sadko88]

Beauties! In general, I was not aware of the single version of IL-2

[Jolly oldster sailor]

At first they did it, but then they began to cover their backs with a co-pilot with a machine gun, the painfully light target was behind the Luftwaffen fighter fliers ...

[ltc35]

At first, the attack pilots were against the introduction of double versions. It was painfully often brought from the tasks of a dead shooter (the pilot had an armor plate, and the shooter was much worse protected). But then they began to solve the problem. I read memoirs of the hero of the Soviet Union Emelyanov. Unfortunately I do not remember the initials of this person. The book describes well the everyday life of our pilots from the first day of the war.

[Givi_49]

Vasily Borisovich Emelianenko, Guard Senior Lieutenant, Hero of the Soviet Union, later Guard Colonel
Before the war, the incomplete composer, the leading group of attack aircraft of the 7th General Staff, 88 sorties to attack ground troops, 2 downed planes, was shot down three times by himself.
In 1942, being shot down by anti-aircraft fire, he made an emergency landing in the target area on enemy territory, after which he was taken out by his wingman Mikhail Talykov, who sat down next to him and took his commander under enemy fire. Pilot Technique Inspector 230th Air Force. Left great memories "In the harsh military air" (https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=60811&p=1)

[serg.shishkov2015]

the book is called-In the harsh air, ,, published in the mid-1980s, reprinted in zero in an abbreviated form and under a different name, for the good news, thank you! our other plane came back from that war!

[NN52]

Jolly oldster sailor

If you are commenting on an aviation topic, then you need to be more precise, and not carry nonsense ... Not a co-pilot, but a shooter ..

[Jolly oldster sailor]

Sorry, Dimitri, if you touched the thin strings of your soul .... But a shooter, not a pilot, is it? Also a pilot, in my humble opinion ...

[NN52]

About my strings .... Well, not for you ...
The shooter then flew backwards to Il 2 .... Not a pilot ....

[novel66]

and the stoker on the ship - isn't he the navigator? strange ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: Jolly oldster sailor

But a shooter, not a pilot, is it? Also a pilot, in my humble opinion ...

A pilot is piloting, and a pilot is flying.
As we once said:
"The chicken is not a bird,
a helicopter is not a plane,
the stewardess is not a girl
the right pilot is not a pilot "
The crew has navigators, radio operators, gunners, operators ... these are all flight crews, but the pilot is the one who manages the aircraft.

[dauria]

it's all the flight crew, but the pilot is the one who manages the aircraft.

Here's the problem, but we didn't have PILOTS. The commander was, he was pravak (pilot-navigator), he was a flight engineer. And, I remembered, there was one "PILOT" - his name was AP-34B. Yes, there were no "pilots" in the Soviet army, whose fashion was taken from the Westerners.

[tlauicol]

There were pilots, but there were no pilots?

[Fitter65]

Quote: Jolly oldster sailor

At first they did it, but then they began to cover their back with a co-pilot

Sorry, but the co-pilot usually sits on the right, as they say, our case is right - do not interfere with the left! And silt two had a shooter.

[Petrograd]

At first they did it, but then they began to cover their backs with a co-pilot with a machine gun, the painfully light target was behind the Luftwaffen fighter fliers ...

On the IL-2, the shooter was positioned, with his back to the movement of the aircraft, let me find out how he piloted the aircraft, or taking control of the IL-2 of the aircraft of the "duck" scheme with a pushing propeller?

[sso-xnumx]

The first modification was originally 2-seater, the second was a shooter. But Sergei Vladimirovich was not able to defend his point of view on this issue before the command of the Air Force of the Red Army. At their insistence, the single-seat version went into the series, but with an increased supply of gasoline. As a result, the unprotected rear hemisphere and unavoidable losses.

[dauria]

At their insistence, the single-seat version went into the series,

Inaccuracy. There was no "insistence", it was just that Ilyushin's two-seater did not work out at that time, did not "fit" into the terms of reference. So the "one place" has gone. An interesting letter from Ilyushin on February 12, 1942 to the People's Commissar of the Aviation Industry A.I.Shakhurin "With regard to increasing the crew of the Il-2 aircraft to 2 people, especially for the aircraft with the AM-38 engine, we consider inappropriate and unnecessary, "Here is your insistence from above.

[Fitter65]

Quote: sso-250659

+1
The first modification was originally 2-seater, the second was a shooter. But Sergei Vladimirovich was not able to defend his point of view on this issue before the command of the Air Force of the Red Army. At their insistence, the single-seat version went into the series, but with an increased supply of gasoline

Do not know the history of the creation of the IL-2. do not carry nonsense. Single IL-2 was created purely on the initiative of S.V. Ilyushin. Moreover, there is only one letter signed by the Deputy People's Commissar of the NKAP A.S. Yakovlev, who legitimized the conduct of state tests of the single version. That nonsense that is written on Wikipedia

The military demanded to increase the flight range, speed and ceiling, to lighten the plane and to do this, remove the gunner’s cabin. No matter how much Ilyushin fights, proving the need on board an air gunner who will cover the rear hemisphere from enemy fighters, nothing helped.

He wrote to the Central Committee, and on November 7, 1940 he himself carried a letter addressed to Stalin. In early December, he was summoned to the Kremlin.

-Comrade Ilyushin, the military believes that it is necessary to make a single-seat attack aircraft, said Stalin. (Felix Chuev. Ilyushin)

nor has any documentary evidence. There is not a single such letter. Note There is a letter from the People’s Commissar of Defense S.K. Timoshenko for No. 10057, dated May 16.05.1940, 24, a letter from the Air Force Chief Y. V. Smushkevich on May 29.05.1940 and 26.06, 1940. But not one of these documents speaks of a single version. The resolution of the KO under the SNK of the USSR dated June 2. 35 attributed to releasing a military series of ten BSh-35AM-38 aircraft (armored attack aircraft, two-seat. With an AM-71 engine). But even the installation of a more powerful AM-81 did not spalasit, and then P.O. Sukhoi with his OBH M-90, which was at the final stage of design, and the data in this aircraft were laid higher than that of Ilyushin. The development of attack aircraft from Kocherigin-OBSh M-35TK, OPB M-1, Dubrovina-OSH-AM also began -XNUMX, Mikoyan Design Bureau PBSh-XNUMX ... And it turned out that S.V. Ilyushin was in a delicate situation. one side military demand urgently bring the flight data of BSh-2 in line with the TTT presented to this aircraft. Moreover, the story is the same with DB-3f. lacks what is written in TTT. On the other hand, S.V. Ilyushin understood that bringing these airplanes "in the right way" is a very time-consuming and lengthy process. Moreover, by order of the NKKAP No. 612 dated 2.11.1940/39/1.12.1940, the director of the plant No. 39, T. Sokolov, and the Chief Designer of the OKB, T. Ilyushin, pledged to vacate, no later than 2, all areas of the factory No. 57 occupied by the Design Bureau. In this regard, a simple solution was found, to remake the BSh-1 into a single-seater version, and then, as the engine was improved, they would return to its two-seater version. construction and science A.S. Yakovlev.

[Fitter65]

Let's go further. The content of this order is perplexing for a number of reasons. As it was possible on the same day, to transfer the same aircraft for testing in one- and two-seater versions. The order contains the signature of Shakhurin, People's Commissar of the NKAP, but he is signed by A.S. Yakovlev, the third person of the table of ranks in the NKAP. He also endorsed this order. The text of this order does not indicate the number of the Resolution of the KO under the Council of People's Commissars, "in execution" of which this order was to be issued. And the number of the decree is an integral part of any order on the NKAP that changes the TK to the designer, and it could not be "accidentally forgotten" ...
In general, by this order, the NKAP covered Ilyushin’s self-will. That's all

[Vkd dvk]

Of course, I do not mind, but I still have a slight astonishment. In August, a plane was shot down and it splashed onto an ice-covered lake ..... Is it really possible there?

[major071]

Olepachka left, the text had to be corrected

[Fitter65]

Quote: Vkd dvk

He was hit by an anti-aircraft gun on August 22, 1943 during the attack of the enemy Luostari airfield, but was able to reach his territory and land the plane on the surface of the lake.

please read carefully what is written in the article

He was hit by an anti-aircraft gun on August 22, 1943 during the attack of the enemy Luostari airfield, but was able to reach his territory and land the plane on the surface of the lake.

about the ice-covered lake there is not a single letter.

[KVU-NSVD]

Yes - safety is surprisingly ... yes, the paint didn’t quite peel off - you can see the bottom is peaty and the water is always icy .. yes it didn’t crash, but sat down ... So restoration will not cause any particular problems. And real reconstructed and flying replicas are much more valuable, so we are waiting for an air show ...

[VALERIK_097]

KVU-NSVD, so for information: the bottom is stony, the water, according to the chemical composition, is practically distilled (I didn’t clean the kettle from 20 petals. Eight kilometers from me to Kulonga. And the airplanes in our large lakes are decently flooded, because that the pilots had no particular choice, either a rock or a lake, we simply do not have even areas.

[Yujanin]

There are photos that can tell one big story. This frame is from that series.

[mamont5]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

and so - safety is surprisingly ... yes the paint did not quite peel off

Yeah, the armored hull is understandable, but the wings are really well preserved.

[bald]

Yes, just no words to feelings - damn it. After all, they are for us, not just for Stalin, he just tuned them in, for those who lived at a critical moment - forgive me, those who gave their soul and it doesn’t matter how, even the VICTORY snack, I bow.

[Peter Smith]

involved loudly said. mostly stand on provincial airfields

[Moore]

Is the airfield of the Chkalovsky plant in Novosibirsk a provincial?

[Ross_ulair]

Attacking the airfield ... Almost suicide, especially by the standards of the outbreak of war.
And they flew. And stormed. Heroes!

Eternal memory to all who flew forever.

[Samara_63]

In Samara, on a pedestal, it’s also raised from the swamps from those places approximately ... It is strange that they are found only in that area, apparently the Germans shot down a lot there ...
40 thousand of them were made

[forcecom]

No, rather, the climate allows them to remain in the water better

[2329 Carpenter]

36 thousand during the war. At 2 factories.
In Samara, he stands, and stands well!
Anyway, gnaws a bit ...
Made it on "ote ..." Not really. Wings - no flaps, no ailerons; UBT is just half an inch ...
In Samara, damn it, real "Tigers" are made, which are Pz.VI, natural and on the move, and their own, especially - Samara, legend - is it weak or what?
Abydna, you know ...

[kotik77713]

Served in these places, the harsh climate however! 200th brigade strength, ten, nineteenth! There was still the 198th cropped, I remember her fleet, and a bunch of birds!

[Thunderbolt]

I greet this news with great greetings. Ilyushki were a welcome bread for our advancing assault infantry. Where Il-2.there is a thunderstorm in positions, in a word - a burnt corridor. Our guardsmen also reached it to the city of Berlin. They walked along Plastunsky, sometimes opening to the vests .. But only forward. They led the battle into battle and these workers, milling men, accountants, timekeepers, the department of quality control, Liteikama-ma .... the foundation is everything, you are my rafting, it’s like to pluck you to a proper state, .... IL-2 here it is .... it was produced in these workshops and watch how it proudly, YES, Proudly, storms its skies. Glory to them, the great assistants of the infantry .... oops ... the video server is not give it away, but IT is there, hello Country, I am your thin kollossss! https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = f3Q3vnskzHs


https://youtu.be/3hv9Vv0ZSVI

[2329 Carpenter]

Quote: Jolly oldster sailor

Sorry, Dimitri, if you touched the thin strings of your soul .... But a shooter, not a pilot, is it? Also a pilot, in my humble opinion ...

The guy is sitting on a military site. Already not a fig since yesterday.
Commenting!
It seems that the overall level of half of the local experts.

[Retvizan 8]

I am proud of my fellow countrymen who do such cool things.
When restoring an airplane, they restore history for our descendants!
Fuck, a real military aircraft that took part in real battles!

[Dashout]

Quote: Retvizan 8

+3
I am proud of my fellow countrymen who do such cool things.
When restoring an airplane, they restore history for our descendants!
Fuck, a real military aircraft that took part in real battles!

I am joining! GNTU is a former NETI ... Well done guys !!!

[ltc35]

Quote: Givi_49

Vasily Borisovich Emelianenko, Guard Senior Lieutenant, Hero of the Soviet Union, later Guard Colonel
Before the war, the incomplete composer, the leading group of attack aircraft of the 7th General Staff, 88 sorties to attack ground troops, 2 downed planes, was shot down three times by himself.
In 1942, being shot down by anti-aircraft fire, he made an emergency landing in the target area on enemy territory, after which he was taken out by his wingman Mikhail Talykov, who sat down next to him and took his commander under enemy fire. Pilot Technique Inspector 230th Air Force. Left great memories "In the harsh military air" (https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=60811&p=1)

Thanks for the amendment. I read this book as a child and therefore was inaccurate. Verily, Vasily Borisovich is an outstanding man!

[Svdtk750]

The guys are doing a good job!

[venik]

Good day to all!
I was now interested in such a thing - what kind of strange "patterns" on the bulletproof glass of the lantern ???

Just cracks ??? But why so symmetrical ???
Can someone tell me ???

[Andrey591]

The design is

[Parsec]

These are not patterns and not cracks; this is the sight of Vasiliev VV-1.

Designed for aiming at air targets, at ground targets when using missile weapons, at ground targets when using bombs.

Here is more https://il2sturmovik.ru/news/300/dnevnik-razrabotchika-154/

[KERMET]

You yourself would carefully read the link that you brought in the photo is the design of the bulletproof glass (composite it), and BB-1 is circles, and you wore them at later versions

[Parsec]

You are right, this is composite glass. A few years ago, VV-1 became interested, and nowhere did not find any instructions or descriptions.
I think the modification shown in the picture is equipped with BB-1. In place of the bracket, it looks like two rubberized gas stations.
Here is the stand

[Parsec]

Photo not attached
https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic1826652.html на первом снимке четко видна стойка мушки.

[Parsec]

To cancel your comment from 13:22, this is a stratification of composite armored glass that was made from separate sectors, so that when a bullet hits one sector, cracks do not spread outside the sector.
Labels BB-1 were applied to the assembled windshield.

[Reserve buildbat]

Great news! Another Il will return to the sky)))
I read in the comments a discussion about pilots, pilots and gunners and somehow I immediately remembered: "You will be a radio operator, but in your heart a pilot. You will fly with a whistle ... Backwards)))"

[rotfuks]

I read that in the single-seat version of the IL-2 attack aircraft, the pilots themselves installed a shafting sticking out in the direction of the rear hemisphere. The shafts imitated a machine gun and scared away enemy fighters.

[Yujanin]

It seems that in the film about academician Korolev this episode was.