Approved contractor for the construction of icebreakers "Leader"

14 September 2018 48

The only contractor for the construction of new Russian atomic icebreakers "Leader" (project 10510) will be the Primorsky shipbuilding complex "Zvezda", reports RIA News Statement by Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov.

Russian President Vladimir Putin gave his consent to the definition of “Star” as the contractor for the construction of nuclear-powered ships.

According to Borisov, the construction of icebreakers will be carried out in cooperation with Russian shipbuilders, including the Baltic Shipyard, where universal icebreakers of the 22220 project are being built today. Associates will be engaged in the manufacture of individual components and assemblies.

Total decided to build three icebreaker project 10510. The issue with financing has already been resolved, the deputy prime minister added.

Recall that the new nuclear-powered ships are conceived as the most powerful icebreakers in the world, with a capacity of 120 MW. The main tasks of the new ships will be to ensure year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route, as well as expeditions in the Arctic. Earlier media reported that for the development of the Arctic Russian the fleet three such icebreakers will be needed.

The technical design of the nuclear icebreaker of the 10510 project was released in 2017, the developer is Iceberg Central Design Bureau (St. Petersburg).

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Thrall

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14 September 2018 10: 56

When the USA runs out of fantasy, they will come up with sanctions for Russian aggression in the Arctic and will prohibit snowing over Russian territory
1. Terenin
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 02
  
  Yeah. We do not feel sorry for the "poor" Anglo-Saxons at all. Three Project 10510 icebreakers in the ribs!
  1. bouncyhunter
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 07
    
    Gene, hello!
    Quote: Terenin
    We do not regret the "poor" Anglo-Saxons at all.
    
    And why pity them, these "doves of peace"?
    Quote: Terenin
    Three icebreakers of project 10510 to their ribs!
    
    And then three more - for a bailout.
    1. maxim947
      
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      14 September 2018 11: 13
      
      I wonder which of these two projects is closer to the truth?
      1. bouncyhunter
        
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        14 September 2018 11: 15
        
        Quote: maxim947
        which of these two projects is closer to the truth?
        
        It's hard to say, but the bottom one looks more "earthy", IMHO. Maksim
        
        maxim947
        
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        14 September 2018 11: 16
        
        Yes, the first is too futuristic for today. By the way, this was the initial appearance of the Leader
        
        bouncyhunter
        
        +12
        
        14 September 2018 11: 18
        
        Quote: maxim947
        too futuristic
        
        That's it . We will not follow the path of the USA and will not rivet the waterfowl copies of the Destroyers from Star Wars.
        
        Piramidon
        
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        14 September 2018 13: 57
        
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        It's hard to say, but the bottom one looks more "earthy"
        
        In different reviews of "Leader", this is the most common view.
      2. Sandor Clegane
        
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        14 September 2018 11: 45
        
        Quote: maxim947
        I wonder which of these two projects is closer to the truth?
        
        neither one nor the other will be roughly in the middle
      3. g1v2
        
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        14 September 2018 12: 59
        
        Second. Most of the auxiliary ships currently under construction for the Northern Fleet look like it. The first - it was generally a preliminary concept. Just like an idea.
      4. BABA SHURA
        
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        14 September 2018 15: 06
        
        Of the reds, this is the same ship, front view and rear view
    2. Terenin
      
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      14 September 2018 11: 17
      
      Be healthy, Pasha Yes, really, with the Arctic they burst. If the Skripals sanctioned us, then for the Arctic on the entire maps and globes issued by the Anglo-Saxons and their vassals (such as Ukraine) in general instead of Russia there will be a white (black) spot ...
      1. bouncyhunter
        
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        14 September 2018 11: 21
        
        And bolt them in the nut with their globes. Figs, they will catch up with Russia in the Arctic.
        
        Terenin
        
        +14
        
        14 September 2018 12: 15
        
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        And bolt them in the nut with their globes. Figs, they will catch up with Russia in the Arctic.
        
        Someone from the "opposition" breathes minuses in the back of our heads So the topic about the Russian Arctic is relevant
        
        bouncyhunter
        
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        14 September 2018 12: 19
        
        Have you noticed too? Offended adherents of the star-striped flag do their best.
NIKN

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14 September 2018 11: 01

They load capacities, so big production should not stand properly, but what about the rest? Go into the shadows, Not enough for all orders.
1. Boa kaa
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 20
  Quote: NIKNN
  Not enough for all orders.
  
  Orders - SEA !!! There is no money and personnel! that's the problem...
  PS I specify on the "money" account. The RF Ministry of Defense has money for the needs of the Navy - well, not enough and that's it !!! And at Sechin's, their chickens don't bite! Even Red has "a lot" of them .. But the Navy does not!
  1. Svarog
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 27
    
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: NIKNN
    Not enough for all orders.
    
    Orders - SEA !!! There is no money and personnel! that's the problem...
    PS I specify on the "money" account. The RF Ministry of Defense has money for the needs of the Navy - well, not enough and that's it !!! And at Sechin's, their chickens don't bite! Even Red has "a lot" of them .. But the Navy does not!
    
    Now, if the comrades you listed above had something from this, then the fleet would have had money .. In our country, if something is being done, it should be beneficial to Putin’s inner circle, just look at the construction, and it’s profitable for the Rotenbergs , everything is under construction .. True, the price is 10 times higher than the initial estimate, but this is not the main thing for our leaders ..
  2. Jolly oldster sailor
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 28
    
    Where to get? Well, no frames ....
Stirbjorn

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14 September 2018 11: 09

According to Borisov, the construction of icebreakers will be carried out in cooperation with Russian shipbuilders, including the Baltic Shipyard, where universal project 22220 icebreakers are being built today.
Awesome cooperation - between St. Petersburg and Vladivostok. The Baltic Shipyard has enormous experience in the construction of icebreakers, and he had to be given an order. And "Zvezda" starts from scratch. Let him fill his hand on tankers first. Another populist "project", like a supersonic business jet for oligarchs. A lot of money will be drunk, with a realization period of 10 years or more
1. Svarog
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 14
  
  Quote: Stirbjorn
  According to Borisov, the construction of icebreakers will be carried out in cooperation with Russian shipbuilders, including the Baltic Shipyard, where universal project 22220 icebreakers are being built today.
  Awesome cooperation - between St. Petersburg and Vladivostok. The Baltic Shipyard has enormous experience in the construction of icebreakers, and he had to be given an order. And "Zvezda" starts from scratch. Let him fill his hand on tankers first. Another populist "project", like a supersonic business jet for oligarchs. A lot of money will be drunk, with a realization period of 10 years or more
  
  You know that the main beneficiaries in Russia are contractors .. This is not due to the logic of decisions on certain projects ..
  1. Jolly oldster sailor
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 23
    
    Wow ... Another cut ...
  2. Dashout
    
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    14 September 2018 13: 56
    
    Quote: Svarog
    You know that the main beneficiaries in Russia are contractors ..
    
    What did they say? and who you think should be the beneficiary of the contract - of course the contractor! It is because of this that he takes it in a row ... You, in your Ukrainian malice, have mixed up plus and minus ... grant-eaters ...
2. bessmertniy
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 18
  
  Well, you will also suggest that Zvezda should produce kayaks, not icebreakers. Why then was "Zvezda" so upset as to keep it in the wings, and not focus on modern complex shipbuilding.
  1. Stirbjorn
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 20
    
    I propose to Zvezda to build tankers and supply vessels, and leave large-capacity icebreakers to the Baltic Shipyard. Do you know what specialization is ?!
    1. bessmertniy
      
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      14 September 2018 11: 22
      
      Both experience and specialization are acquired.
    2. Sandor Clegane
      
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      14 September 2018 11: 48
      
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      zvezda "I propose to build tankers and supply vessels
      
      + to this, seiners, passenger well and corvettes with frigates, and of course the icebreakers had to leave the Baltic ....
3. Alexey RA
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 43
  
  Quote: Stirbjorn
  The Baltic Shipyard has vast experience in the construction of icebreakers, and it was necessary to give him an order.
  
  The problem is that you can build a "Leader" in St. Petersburg. But the ICE that has been built has a very good chance of staying on the Neva. For the Neva is connected by its shipyards with the Gulf of Finland by a narrow and shallow thread of the Sea Canal.
  The Sea Canal is an artificial channel in the Neva Bay, passing from the mouth of the Bolshaya Neva River to the island of Kotlin. Designed for passage of ships to the seaport of St. Petersburg. On the channel movement of vessels with draft not more than 11 meters (for fresh water) no more than 320 meters long and no more than 42 meters wide.
  
  Icebreaker "Leader":
  Length 209,0 m (193,6 DWL)
  Width 47,7 m (maximum) / 38,0 m (on design waterline)
  Height 20,3 m (board height)
  Draft 13,0 m (DWL) / 11,0 m (minimum working)
  1. Stirbjorn
    
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    14 September 2018 11: 57
    
    Quote: Alexey RA
    The problem is that you can build a "Leader" in St. Petersburg. But the ICE that has been built has a very good chance of staying on the Neva. For the Neva is connected by its shipyards with the Gulf of Finland by a narrow and shallow thread of the Sea Canal.
    
    I cannot argue with your numbers, but for some reason the general director of the Baltic Plant is not aware of such a problem, since in February 2018 he talked about the prospects for the construction of "Leader". So I think it's not the main problem with the size of the Marine Canal.
    REGNUM: And will there be enough personnel and capacities under the "Leader"?
    I do not see a problem in the personnel, but reconstruction of the plant will be required. This will be a ship that no one has ever built in Russia, respectively, and there are no construction sites. Nevertheless, the Baltzavod is the most suitable site. Factories in the Far East do not have competencies in the manufacture of surface ships and ships with a nuclear power plant (recall that Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin in an interview with Kommersant mentioned the Zvezda shipyard as the place where the Leader will be built - approx. IA REGNUM). Other potential plants, for example, in the Crimea, specialized in the construction of ships with less draft (for example, tankers), and their launch depths are not suitable for such a large-scale icebreaker.
    
    However, it is too early to talk about this order and our reconstruction. The only obvious reality in the Russian Arctic is the beginning of the shipment of liquefied natural gas from Sabetta to the west, while the real market is in the east. A large icebreaker is needed to provide year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route. There is a task, but its implementation will require a lot of money.
    Details: https://regnum.ru/news/2384760.html
    1. Alexey RA
      
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      14 September 2018 12: 36
      
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      I cannot argue with your numbers, but for some reason the general director of the Baltic Plant is not aware of such a problem, since in February 2018 he talked about the prospects for the construction of "Leader".
      
      Yes, he knows the problems, in the know. No wonder that at the very beginning it was said:
      I don’t see a problem in the frames, but it will take factory reconstruction. This will be a ship that no one has ever built in Russia, respectively, and there are no construction sites.
      
      What "reconstruction of the plant for a ship that no one had built before"Nikolayev's example shows well: when in Soviet times the plant was being prepared for the construction of a TAVKR pr. 1143, the reconstruction included work on deepening, widening and straightening the Bugsko-Dneprovsky liman canal, along which ships and ships built in Nikolaev were taken out to the Black Sea.
      By the way, the story with that reconstruction came out bad. Peter and Nikolaev fought for the right to build Pr. 1143. And nikolayevets in the estimate for reconstruction "forgot" work on the water area of the plant and the canal. As a result, the cost of refurbishing their plant was lower. And then, after the decision was made, additional work on the channel suddenly surfaced.
      1. Stirbjorn
        
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        14 September 2018 13: 09
        
        Reconstruction of the plant and reconstruction of the canal are, you see, completely different things. I don't see any problems with the depth - 11 and 11. And with the width, it is possible that an engineering solution will be found. And for additional reconstruction, I'm only "for". Without long-term orders, the territory of the Baltic plant can be given for elite development, a tasty place. Not so long ago, the banker Pugachev, under the patronage of dear Valentina Ivanovna, already tried to do this. And under the current authorities, the threat to the plant remains, well, within the framework of "optimization" of course
        
        Alexey RA
        
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        14 September 2018 15: 50
        
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Reconstruction of the plant and reconstruction of the canal, you see, these are completely different things
        
        Once again: in reconstruction of the Nikolaev shipbuilding plant included reconstruction of the Bug-Dnieper estuary canal.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        And with a width, it is possible that they will find an engineering solution.
        
        Just to illustrate - what is the Sea Channel:
        
        On the one hand - a port with moorings and warehouses. On the other hand - a port with moorings and warehouses + residential buildings.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Without long-term orders, the territory of the Baltic Shipyard can be given for elite development, a tidbit.
        
        So the ambush is that optimization is still needed. Both BSZ and NEA are squeezed by city blocks and are limited by the width of the Neva and the dimensions of the Sea Canal. And BSZ is also located on Vasilievsky Island and does not have a railway connection (except for the ferry).
        
        Stirbjorn
        
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        14 September 2018 16: 26
        
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Just to illustrate - what is the Sea Channel:
        I know what the Sea Channel in St. Petersburg is, I have been living here since birth. The Neva is at least 200 meters wide, where the Baltic Plant is located. Your reference from Wiki related to the width of the vessels no more than 42 m, and the width of the Big Neva itself is much larger, that's why I'm talking about the engineering solution.
        Quote: Alexey RA
        So the ambush is that optimization is still needed. Both BSZ and NEA are squeezed by city blocks and are limited by the width of the Neva and the dimensions of the Sea Canal. And BSZ is also located on Vasilievsky Island and does not have a railway connection (except for the ferry).
        What city blocks are they squeezed? They stand almost at the forwarder, unless of course you are talking about the Admiralty shipyards, inclusive (the plant on Amur stands). There is no option with Kotlin at all, who will go there? Again, there are no railway messages there either. Under the USSR, no optimization was required, and loading the shipyards was not even a couple of the current
        
        Alexey RA
        
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        14 September 2018 20: 10
        
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        I know what the Sea Channel in St. Petersburg is, I have been living here since birth.
        
        Similarly.
        And I remember my feelings about the passage by the Sea Canal on the ferry - it seemed that it was worth reaching a hand, and you can already touch the trees on the shore.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Your reference from Wiki related to the width of the vessels no more than 42 m, and the width of the Big Neva itself is much larger, that's why I'm talking about the engineering solution.
        
        Do you propose to dig a new Channel along the channel of the Big Neva? I'm afraid that they will clean it more than use it - Neva will clog it with sediment.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        What city blocks are they squeezed?
        
        The Baltic Shipyard has an Oblique line and a line 27. If you need to build a new dock, you will have to destroy something already built.
        The situation at the Admiralteyskogo plant is even steeper - it is scattered across the islands bounded by the Fontanka, Buckle and Moika (the same Galerny Island is almost completely occupied by slipways - there is nowhere to extend it further). And where there is no river - there is Pilot Street.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        There is no option with Kotlin at all, who will go there?
        
        I don’t even talk about Kotlin - their plants do not survive there either.
        If the factories are moved, then to the South Bank of the Federal Law, somewhere in Bolshoi Izhora.
      2. Vladimir Postnikov
        
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        15 September 2018 00: 58
        
        Similar examples have occurred and are taking place not only in the USSR or Russia, but also in the USA. One such oil transportation project was implemented there forty years ago. He won the pipeline, the project of which cost 1 billion dollars. As a result, the finished oil pipeline cost 9 billion. But no one remembered the losing competitive projects. The main thing is to get an order, after which the customer of a large project becomes a hostage to the contractor.
4. Piramidon
  
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  14 September 2018 17: 53
  
  Quote: Stirbjorn
  The Baltic Shipyard has vast experience in the construction of icebreakers, and it was necessary to give him an order.
  
  And the Baltic Shipyard already has enough orders. There are now delays with "Arctic", and "Ural" and "Siberia" should be commissioned by the 20th year.
  1. asv363
    
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    15 September 2018 20: 56
    
    The current schedule is 2019, 2020, 2021, respectively. If you have not shifted to the right, taking into account the change to the customer.
ANCIENT

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14 September 2018 11: 18

And they can fly vertically ??? And then to land on the deck of an American aircraft carrier also vertically ???
bessmertniy

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14 September 2018 11: 20

The country needs icebreakers. This should be our country's competitive advantage in maritime transit from East Asia to Europe.
1. Sandor Clegane
  
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  14 September 2018 11: 50
  
  Quote: bessmertniy
  the country needs icebreakers.
  
  here are those times, and here we thought it was just cutting the dough, well, all that, super post, you can even pick up a pie from a shelf))
Forestol

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14 September 2018 11: 21

it's time to open Stalin's sharashka for the directors of the enterprise, their families, and most importantly, financial services. To stop the outflow of capital from Russia.
1. Piramidon
  
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  14 September 2018 18: 00
  
  Quote: Forestol
  it's time to open Stalin's sharashka for the directors of the enterprise, their families, and most importantly, financial services. To stop the outflow of capital from Russia.
  
  And who do you think will open them? It's time to stop thinking about the unrealizable, otherwise in almost every second comment - "but under Stalin, but under Beria" ... Well, there are no such leaders and nowhere to take them, capitalism is in the yard.
aszzz888

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14 September 2018 11: 52

The only contractor for the construction of the new Russian nuclear icebreakers "Leader" (10510 project) will be the Primorsky shipbuilding complex "Star ...

... congratulations to fellow countrymen !!! ...
Termit1309

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14 September 2018 12: 06

Quote: Alexey RA
The problem is that you can build a "Leader" in St. Petersburg. But the ICE that has been built has a very good chance of staying on the Neva. For the Neva is connected by its shipyards with the Gulf of Finland by a narrow and shallow thread of the Sea Canal.

Well, why are you like that. So many people tried, threw shit on the fan. And you came and all in vain
1. Alexey RA
  
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  14 September 2018 12: 38
  
  Quote: Termit1309
  Well, why are you like that. So many people tried, threw shit on the fan. And you came and all in vain
  
  Cc-combo breaker! ©
Antidote

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14 September 2018 12: 41

Meanwhile, the descent 22220 was again postponed for a year.
Panda catfishes

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14 September 2018 17: 34

To all whiners, but the Russian Fleet will be restored .. And the Arctic will lift Russia, so you need to fight for it!
1. Vladimir Postnikov
  
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  15 September 2018 01: 02
  
  The final touch is missing: "I said!"