In the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine: The time has come to pay to the IMF

The Ukrainian Ministry of Social Policy in the face of its head is voicing a statement that it is impossible to further drag on reforms that the IMF requires to carry out. The head of the SME Andrei Reva said that about fifteen of the requirements of the International Monetary Fund remain unfulfilled, and this affects further cooperation with the fund.

One of the main requirements of the IMF is to bring the level of gas prices for the population and industry to average European indicators. Translated from economic to human language, this means a multiple increase in prices for "blue fuel". The Ukrainian minister recalled that for these purposes, the IMF was developing a program of macro-financial assistance to Ukraine, the total cost of which is 10 billion dollars. A few more requirements: freezing of social payments at certain levels, the solution of pension issues.

Reva:

For Ukraine, the time has come to pay to the IMF.

At the same time, the minister presented three scenarios. First: to take funds to repay the loan from the budget, because of which to cut the "social sphere". Second: declare the state bankrupt. Third: to cooperate with the IMF, fulfilling its requirements for further lending to the Ukrainian economy.

Recall that the IMF mission has been working in Kiev since the beginning of September. Requirements fund puts forward Kiev. But, strangely, they try to engage in the execution of IMF directives in Moscow. Although no credit program from the IMF for Russia, obviously, does not exist by definition.

Comments

[Svarog]

They have a cabinet paying the IMF, and we have a population ...

[Jolly oldster sailor]

Yes, and their population is paying ... Only their population will be more prosperous than us, they don’t feel so much that they are digging in their pockets. But I immediately feel that they have reached my pocket again.

[just exp]

is it on the Ruin the population will be more prosperous than ours?
and why then the ruin gaster go to us to earn money, and not ours to them?
Why do Ukrainian women go to our tracks to stand, and not ours to go to their tracks?

[Livonetc]

Yes.
In the cities of the ruins, the situation is deplorable.
But the issues with land, personal subsidiary plots, farming, were solved at one time at a higher level than in Russia.
If we compare the rural population, it is not a fact that the situation of our villagers differs for the better.
Essentially, Thai people are here basically based on natural households.
Therefore, by the way, there is no particular protest movement on the landless among the rural population.
For them, a little has changed.

[just exp]

then why do their villagers come to us to earn money if they have a milk river and jelly banks there?

[Shurik70]

Poroshenko borrowed debts, money in his own pocket and his gang, and debts hung in Ukraine.
When the next president authorizes the "summons to court", Poroshenko (together with Saakashvili) will move ... Well, for example, to France. And they will write memoirs of how they are persecuted in their homeland, how well the countries lived with them and in what country without them.

[Livonetc]

This is your version about milk rivers and jelly banks.
And driving can just make money.
They have very little cash, however, like our peasants.
And what, are our peasants rich in wallet with a coin?
I have a summer house near Pereslavl-Zalessky.
There and the townspeople have meager salaries.
In summer cottages, every patch of land is cultivated.
Get chickens and other animals.
In general, in the city they work at enterprises and plow on the land and do not at all prosper.
Yes, that's it.
My daughter works as a nurse at the Institute of Emergency Medicine. Sklifosovsky.
Salary - 7500 ....
Yes, of course there are some additional co-pay supplements.
In general, if the month is "successful" it can drip up to 35 thousand.
What about work.
The junior medical staff are half as many as they should be.
The nanny was reduced as a class, girls butterflies tossing such carcasses.
And this is in conditions of an incredible number of infections of various kinds, since everyone is being driven in a row, including homeless people.
And this is Moscow.
Further communal services in full and metropolitan price tags in stores.
One word sweet life.
To be honest.
Ghouls rule today in krajina.
I have relatives in Kherson and Donetsk.
There is little joy.
But do we have paradise today?
Do you believe in the painted prospects of a breakthrough to a qualitatively new level in the foreseeable future?

An old joke.
Lecture on the farm.
-Comrades! Communism is on the horizon!
-Comrade lecturer, and what is the horizon?
- And this, comrade collective farmer, is such an imaginary line to which it is impossible to reach. "

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Livonetc

Yes.
In the cities of the ruins, the situation is deplorable.
But the issues with land, personal subsidiary plots, farming, were solved at one time at a higher level than in Russia.
If we compare the rural population, it is not a fact that the situation of our villagers differs for the better.
Essentially, Thai people are here basically based on natural households.
Therefore, by the way, there is no particular protest movement on the landless among the rural population.
For them, a little has changed.

You see, you superficially own info !!!

Products from Poland and the mass slaughter of cows. What will turn out for Ukraine a ban on the purchase of homemade milk from the villagers
https://strana.ua/articles/analysis/116329-polskoe-moloko-i-massovyj-zaboj-korov-chem-obernetsja-dlja-ukrainy-zapret-na-moloko.html

[Barzha]

is it on the Ruin the population will be more prosperous than ours?

This thesis surprised me too! A former colleague lives in Kremenchug. He himself works at the railway, his wife works at the Kremenchug wheel plant. There are no children (it did not work out) He receives salary regularly, but his wife has interruptions with this. The plant is in a fever. At the same time, the communal apartment "skyrocketed." They now give almost all of his salary to "mandatory payments". A vegetable garden and basement helps out. For the third year, they plow all of it - potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, etc. Plus chickens. The houses in the basement each have their own enclosure where supplies are stored. Due to this, they survive.

[ioan-e]

Quote: just EXPL

Why do Ukrainian women go to our tracks to stand, and not ours to go to their tracks?

In addition to our financial situation, ours also has better morality!

[just exp]

and where is it with you?
and then Russia, for example, settled with the IMF about 15 years ago and does not contact this share more.

[Svarog]

Quote: just EXPL

and where is it with you?
and then Russia, for example, settled with the IMF about 15 years ago and does not contact this share more.

Correctly, Sberbank threw a couple of times its citizens and paid off .. Contact this sharaga, even how, this sharaga made recommendations to increase the retirement age ..

[just exp]

Tell us how in 2003 Sberbank threw our citizens. thirst for details.
and tell us exactly how the IMF imposed an increase in the retirement age on our state.
I also expect details.

[bessmertniy]

Sberbank only followed the instructions. And they threw a bunch of crooks through Sberbank. By the way, we still see some in the box - in chocolate and health. And for the savings, as I recall how much of my labor burned in them, it’s still a shame.

[just exp]

the freshman rushed to us to cut the truth.
Oh, the State Department is not firing, it is not firing at all.

[Vend]

Quote: just EXPL

Tell us how in 2003 Sberbank threw our citizens. thirst for details.
and tell us exactly how the IMF imposed an increase in the retirement age on our state.
I also expect details.

And in response to silence. Ukrainian trolls divorced on the site even pack in stacks

[Svarog]

Quote: Wend

Quote: just EXPL

Tell us how in 2003 Sberbank threw our citizens. thirst for details.
and tell us exactly how the IMF imposed an increase in the retirement age on our state.
I also expect details.

And in response to silence. Ukrainian trolls divorced on the site even pack in stacks

If you don’t know about it, it’s still small .. and if you know and ask to tell, then the question is already for you, what should you tell, since everything is already known .. It’s not clear that you don’t understand?
In my memory, the state, banks threw our population three times ... Do you want to relish how the state did this or what?

[just exp]

in your memory, maybe the Fed began to print the dollar, and in 2003 and a couple of years later (when the remnants of debts with the IMF were scattered), no population threw at us.
so you do not hang up your sins (the collapse of the USSR and defaulted to 98m).

[Vend]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Wend

Quote: just EXPL

Tell us how in 2003 Sberbank threw our citizens. thirst for details.
and tell us exactly how the IMF imposed an increase in the retirement age on our state.
I also expect details.

And in response to silence. Ukrainian trolls divorced on the site even pack in stacks

If you don’t know about it, it’s still small .. and if you know and ask to tell, then the question is already for you, what should you tell, since everything is already known .. It’s not clear that you don’t understand?
In my memory, the state, banks threw our population three times ... Do you want to relish how the state did this or what?

There was a simple question, in response to a bunch of junk.

[Serge Gorely]

What nonsense did I read? Doesn’t this news apply to Brazil? There are many, many wild monkeys there.

[rotmistr60]

For Ukraine, the time has come to pay to the IMF.

It seems that in the end this issue will be resolved, and oddly enough in favor of Ukraine. The West needs it as an anti-Russian outpost along with the Balts and Poles. But the time to collect the stones thrown by Ukraine is not far off. And this "job" will be much harder than the relationship with the IMF.

[just exp]

yes, grandfather Pu will give an order to love kaklov and we will again have to consider them brothers ((((
it is because of these Judas that they raise the retirement age (because after 3-4 years we still have to pay pensions of 12-15 million kaklov of pensioners) and the dollar raised the rate, although the oil price is under 80 bach per barrel.

[bessmertniy]

The law of the jungle states that we are of the same blood. And all the creatures with blue blood stir up, and wild appetites for the common commons.

[just exp]

and galloped blue patricians too?
Or ordinary Selyuk and brothers from the city ruins?
and unfortunately we have one blood.
after their Judaism, for a long time it will be necessary to forget what they have done.

[Mr Credo]

And why didn’t Russia work with its relatives as effectively as our partners worked with them? So where does management work more efficiently? It turns out that pros work there, and in Russia amateurs !? So who will we blame? Ruintsev, partners, yourself, your answer!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Mister Creed

It turns out that pros work there, and in Russia amateurs !?

Nooo ... it’s just by the type that you won’t bother your relative, as an outsider will blow him !! Euroamericosses have Ukrainians in the tail and in the mane, and we all care about them !! In principle, it’s time for us to tie up with such a life principle !!!

[Mountain shooter]

Recall that the IMF mission has been working in Kiev since the beginning of September. Requirements fund puts forward Kiev. But, strangely, they try to engage in the execution of IMF directives in Moscow. Although no credit program from the IMF for Russia, obviously, does not exist by definition.

Where did the author find the fulfillment of IMF requirements in Russia? Cutting back on social benefits? Higher gas prices? What else?
Apparently, the pension reform "ran into him"? And what does the IMF have to do with it. For this, we must thank the sanctions that put pressure on our budget.

[Стена]

And it seemed to me that the result of the rule of our village. The departure abroad of hundreds of billions of greenery, total corruption, drank the budget, a bloated army of officials, etc. etc.

[Svarog]

Quote: Wall

And it seemed to me that the result of the rule of our village. The departure abroad of hundreds of billions of greenery, total corruption, drank the budget, a bloated army of officials, etc. etc.

So you don’t think so .. it is so ..

[bessmertniy]

Continue, my friend, to think in the right direction. It makes you smart.

[cradle]

when it seems, it is necessary to be baptized ... for a long time did not buy a car?

[Mr Credo]

And the reason for the sanctions? Our people want to enter the world system but live in it according to their own concepts. It is with these sanctions that they want to make them live according to their laws if ours so want to enter their system. Don't like their system? Create an alternative. What is the problem? First we want to live according to their laws, then noah. So, what are we going to do? Will we merge or create an alternative economy and system?

[cosmonaut]

it turns out this is not our president is bad, it's all the damned IMF muddies. what radishes are they. the author of the article is not Mr. Fedorov?

[bessmertniy]

It was all invented by Churchill in the eighteenth year.

[Mr Credo]

We will tell our children the truth. They care. Amazing near! But it is forbidden!

[CAT BAIYUN]

For Ukraine, the time has come to pay to the IMF.

Well, frankly speaking, it’s not necessary to generalize ... This time is not for Ukraine. What is Ukraine? Territory, name .... yes. But pay will be REALLY every resident. Yes, everything is different. Someone with money, someone by cutting their own needs, someone by shortening their lives, someone will not dare to have children ... But they will have to pay. And from your own pockets. So get ready - fun ahead.
And about the options:

to take funds to repay the loan from the budget, because of which to cut the "social network". Second: declare the state bankrupt. Third: cooperate with the IMF

each other is not sweeter ... Anyway, pay you, Ukrainian citizens.
I have a question in this connection: was it worth it? Did you want this?

[revnagan]

Quote: KOT BYUN

Did you want this?

And you wanted, say, pension reform? No? Yes, you joke, they wanted, of course. Or didn’t you ask? And who asked us? Oh, yes, we have the government that we have chosen, yes? And you probably Martians tossed ...

[igorbrsv]

Actually, he first asked

[Mr Credo]

But is not Russia credited to Ukraine the most? So now Russia must milk the debtors !?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: KOT BYUN

I have a question in this connection: was it worth it? Did you want this?

finally there, as it were, the opinion of the lackeys did not interest anyone !!!

[Metallurg_2]

According to previous statements by Reva, Ukrainians eat too much.
They will temper their appetite - and it will be possible to pay off the fund.
By the way, what can the IMF do with the country that will stupidly throw money on it? There were no precedents, therefore a question for reflection.

[Mr Credo]

By the way, what can the IMF do with the country that will stupidly throw money on it? # The question is interesting. Then Ukraine will have one option. Become part of Russia.

[Ros 56]

And they have what, the prices are not like in Oyrop yet, but why then rode on the Maidan? I thought they were already Europeans, and they are still Ukrainians.

[bessmertniy]

To buy at European prices you need to have European salaries. And in the middle of Ukraine it can be ten times less than the average European. So the whole thing goes to the bankruptcy of the Ukrainian state.

[Ros 56]

Well, for what they fought, they ran into something. I know perfectly about their income. After all, in the years 11-12-13 they kept saying, guys where do you go, in the mouth of a boa constrictor? Well, get it, sign it. Now Russia is to blame, well, not dolbyotyaty?

[Ros 56]

Hoholiks, under whose flag are you hiding and quietly minus?

[Mr Credo]

But about the flag, the question is also interesting. If Ukraine is Europe! What flag should Ukrainians have? In theory, the EU flag, well, if they are Europe! And if not Europe? Zhovto-blakitny !? And why then jumped to Europe?

[Metallurg_2]

European Ukrainians.

[Conductor]

Yes, Allah is with him with the dollar, why is there a VAT increase with a budget surplus (according to Siluanov)? Housing and communal services is growing again, Pu spent all the money on botex

[Mr Credo]

Not. Did not guess. Money will go under the safety mattress!

[Barzha]

The IMF was created and controlled by the "golden billion" of the world's population. Its main task is to reduce the rest of the population to a level acceptable for servicing this very "golden billion". Look, all the recommendations of the IMF are aimed precisely at this - reducing the population of those countries to which these recommendations are given.

[aszzz888]

for these purposes, the IMF was developing a program of macro-financial assistance to Ukraine, the total cost of which is 10 billion

... cosmic black holes rest, compared to black holes in ukrokaklia ...

[NordUral]

What power, such and execution.

[APASUS]

As soon as the issue with the sale of land is resolved, Ukraine will cease to be of interest to partners. Then only colonial law

[Awaz]

comparing living standards in Russia and Ukraine is the same as comparing living standards in Russia and Italy, for example. Well, yes, in Italy, it seems, the level of salaries is higher, but the brutal rip-off of the population from all sides. and in the end, for life, it remains, well, maybe a little more than that of the same class of population in Russia. The only thing that in Italy is a little more developed social sphere, which does not allow the most n layers to die. Residents of Ukraine are very surprised when I pay for the same apartment as in Ukraine, I pay for utilities at the level of their average salaries. For me, this is not fatal, but still - unpleasant. Ukrainians cannot survive such payments

[nikvic46]

I’ll add a little. The IMF puts the condition for social policy at the head of the conditions.