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Turkish troops bombard north Aleppo and line up in southern Idlib

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Urgent messages come from Syria. The Syrian government army launched an offensive on the Idlib-Hama axis, where a total of up to several thousand militants are concentrated. The first blow was struck near the Masasne checkpoint, where a group of militants was eliminated, including several snipers.


After that, the CAA attacked the fortifications of representatives of the terrorist group “Hayat Tahrir al-Sham” (* banned in the Russian Federation). Artillery strikes destroyed trenches and underground tunnels, which were used by terrorists.

Then, using rocket artillery, a strike was made at the location of the rocket launchers and armored vehicles of the militants in the area of ​​the Tamanakh settlement. At the moment, the Syrian army is reportedly concentrating the main forces and assets in the southern part of the province of Idlib, in which the militants carry out constant shelling of the territories previously liberated from the terrorist occupation.

At the same time, the terrorists fired on a Syrian air force helicopter in the province of Hama - east of Suran.

Meanwhile, information is received from the province of Aleppo that Turkish artillery is shelling the northern part of the province, namely the city of Tel Rifat. According to some reports, there are concentrated representatives of the Kurdish armed formations of the YPG units. At the same time, the Turkish army transferred additional forces to the south of Idlib - near the town of Murek, located on the Khan-Sheikhun-Hama highway. This is exactly the territory, the attack on which is preparing the CAA.

Turkish troops bombard north Aleppo and line up in southern Idlib


Thus, Ankara unequivocally makes it clear to Damascus (and Moscow too) that it is going to finally take militants in Idlib under its wing and retain the backbone of "resistance to the bloody Assad."
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  1. poquello
    poquello 13 September 2018 16: 18
    +12
    nifiga did not understand, the Turks hit the Kurds and made it clear why such a certainty came from? well sho and threw?
    1. Logall
      Logall 13 September 2018 16: 20
      +12
      Quote: poquello
      well sho and threw?
      Exactly where the offensive is planned.
      The Turkish army at the same time transferred additional forces to the south of Idlib - in the area of ​​the city of Murek, located on the Khan Sheikhun - Hama highway. This is exactly the territory the attack on which the CAA prepares.


      Soak with the Turks ... Taip himself decided to get in there. At the same time, we’ll settle accounts with our Turks.
      1. poquello
        poquello 13 September 2018 16: 27
        +3
        Quote: Logall
        Quote: poquello
        well sho and threw?
        Exactly where the offensive is planned.
        The Turkish army at the same time transferred additional forces to the south of Idlib - in the area of ​​the city of Murek, located on the Khan Sheikhun - Hama highway. This is exactly the territory the attack on which the CAA prepares.


        Soak with the Turks ... Taip himself decided to get in there. At the same time, we’ll settle accounts with our Turks.

        so it’s not at all a fact, if the Turks supported the settlement on the map, the SAA can take it or cut its pocket to the left, it will be clear when there is contact
        1. Logall
          Logall 13 September 2018 16: 30
          +10
          Quote: poquello
          there will be clarity when there is contact

          "In a dispute, truth is always born. Even if someone suffers ..." ®
        2. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 13 September 2018 16: 35
          +3
          What bald Turks do in Syria? It's kind of called aggression.
          1. Logall
            Logall 13 September 2018 16: 41
            +14
            No, Eugene hi , aggression is when you feed the country, help, save ...
            Russia is the only aggressor on this planet! And the Turks, while under the United States, carry democracy.
            1. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 14 September 2018 09: 13
              -5
              Quote: Logall
              No, Eugene, aggression is when you feed the country, help, save ...

              Oh, you have a heavy burden, feed the whole world, help, poison, capture, though only the weak, and now, they won’t even say thank you.
              1. Warrior with machine gun
                Warrior with machine gun 14 September 2018 13: 30
                +1
                Well duck is the United States "the beacon of democracy" always chooses an equal opponent, Grenada for example.
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 13 September 2018 17: 35
            -10
            Quote: Warrior with machine gun
            What bald Turks do in Syria? It's kind of called aggression.

            to make it clear. Everything is the same as Russia in the Donbass and in the Crimea. As in Turkey, all this is seen.
            The bloody Junta of Kiev (Assad’s bloody regime) kills and torments the Russian or Russian-speaking population of Donbass (the Turkmen or Arabian, i.e. the Muslim population of Syria).
            And Russia (Turkey) cannot stand by and watch how bombs fall on the population of Donbass (Idlib)
            For Russia, in the Donbass civilians, compatriots, etc. And in Kiev, the junta. And for Kiev in Idlib, separatists, terrorists from Russia.
            For Turkey, in Idlib, civilians, compatriots, etc. And for Assad and the Russian Federation are terrorists.
            The situation is very similar, the belfries are different.
            1. ultra
              ultra 13 September 2018 17: 51
              +1
              Quote: Yeraz
              And Russia (Turkey) cannot stand by

              Most of all, the Turks are annoyed by the Russian flag. One would like to say, "Suitcase, train station, Istanbul!"
              1. ultra
                ultra 13 September 2018 18: 05
                0
                Quote: ultra
                Turks

                Moder didn't miss the word "turko .... pots..reoty"! laughing
              2. Yeraz
                Yeraz 13 September 2018 18: 50
                +3
                Quote: ultra
                Most of all, the Turks are annoyed by the Russian flag. One would like to say, "Suitcase, train station, Istanbul!"

                Well, if there is nothing to argue then yes)
                1. ultra
                  ultra 14 September 2018 07: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Well, if there is nothing to argue then yes)

                  I have seen enough of your brother in Russia, how business is conducted and what kind of people it is, so this is not only a cue to you personally, but also to 90% of your fellow tribesmen settled in Russia.
            2. APASUS
              APASUS 13 September 2018 18: 33
              +3
              Quote: Yeraz
              to make it clear. Everything is the same as Russia in the Donbass and in the Crimea. As in Turkey, all this is seen.
              The bloody Junta of Kiev (Assad’s bloody regime) kills and torments the Russian or Russian-speaking population of Donbass (the Turkmen or Arabian, i.e. the Muslim population of Syria).

              And Turkish troops invaded Iraq, are they also looking for Assad?
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 13 September 2018 18: 59
                +3
                Quote: APASUS
                And Turkish troops invaded Iraq, are they also looking for Assad?

                No, they are looking for the PKK, they are preparing the Peshmerga. By the way, they also do this based on the law.
                I'm afraid to make a mistake, knowledgeable people will say. But if an attack on another is constantly coming from the territory of one country and a conditional country cannot eliminate this threat, the country being attacked has the right to invade.
                And we have a situation where Baghdad does not control the whole REGION, in which its own army, police, laws and constant attacks come from there. And what is it for Turkey to just watch its roadblocks and convoys being demolished in the border region?
                By the way, in the case of Syria, more missiles fell on Turkish cities.
                Russia successfully bombed the Pankisi Gorge.
                And I think the Russian Federation will not sit quietly, if the border with Azerbaijan is conditionally a passage yard, the terrorists will attack and withdraw, and so on. Any normal country will take action.
            3. Warrior with machine gun
              Warrior with machine gun 13 September 2018 23: 31
              +5
              that you are sculpting a hunchback here, the situation is dissimilar, at least because the Donbass is gouging a coup d'etat that has seized power (just not about the revolution), and in Syria, the legitimate government is defending itself from the international rabble on the content of various interested parties from behind a puddle and closer, and fables about "bloody Assad "got it, not more bloody" democratic "Saudi and Turkish authorities.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 14 September 2018 01: 18
                -5
                Quote: Warrior with machine gun
                that you are sculpting a hunchbacked one, the situation is different at least because the Donbass is gouging by a coup d'état that has seized power (just don’t need about a revolution), and in Syria the legitimate authority is defending itself from international rabble

                you sculpt a hunchback. Yeah, in Syria the rightful rule is first, Dad, then the son has been ruling for almost half a century. And if people are on his side, then where are the Fighters of the Islamic Corps and tens of thousands of Shiite militias, plus Hezbollah ??
                This is pure civil civil war in which other countries entered. And it’s not fairy tales that say the people for Assad and against him are only foreign terrorists. No 85% did not like usurpation of power 15% of the Alavites were headed by a family clan.
                1. the finish
                  the finish 14 September 2018 11: 36
                  +3
                  Tell me who replaced Heydar, not his son Ilham by chance?
                  1. Brut
                    Brut 14 September 2018 12: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: finish
                    Tell me who replaced Heydar, not his son Ilham by chance?

                    Well, what are you saying or you don’t know that in Azerbaijan the hereditary transfer of power from father to son (not to mention the first lady is the first vice president) is the greatest manifestation of democracy, and in Syria is the usurpation of power by a family clan?
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 37
                      -1
                      Quote: Brut
                      Well, what are you saying or you don’t know that in Azerbaijan the hereditary transfer of power from father to son (not to mention the first lady is the first vice president) is the greatest manifestation of democracy, and in Syria is the usurpation of power by a family clan?

                      No, these are your statements. Azerbaijan is also a usurpation. And by the way, Heydar was really elected democratically, he had real popularity. But his son is no longer there.
                  2. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 36
                    0
                    Quote: finish
                    Tell me who replaced Heydar, not his son Ilham by chance?

                    Yes. And if people go against tomorrow, then they will also declare all terrorists in Russia.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 14 September 2018 19: 24
                      0
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      Quote: finish
                      Tell me who replaced Heydar, not his son Ilham by chance?

                      Yes. And if people go against tomorrow, then they will also declare all terrorists in Russia.

                      But really, have you already picked up the dough for the buildup? and specify who in the Russian Federation they declared terrorists ?, what did you want to say?
                      1. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 14 September 2018 20: 39
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        Already already dough for a buildup picked up?

                        loot does not help when all countries are for this power.
                        Quote: poquello
                        and specify who in the Russian Federation they declared terrorists ?, what did you want to say?

                        it seems to have clearly said everyone who is against Assad with weapons in his hands.
                2. Warrior with machine gun
                  Warrior with machine gun 14 September 2018 13: 32
                  +4
                  Have you received a percentage of the "pale helmets"?
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 38
                    0
                    Quote: Warrior with machine gun
                    Have you received a percentage of the "pale helmets"?

                    you can’t answer with arguments, keep quiet. Now the State Department’s cookies will begin))
                    1. Warrior with machine gun
                      Warrior with machine gun 14 September 2018 13: 41
                      +3
                      in general it was a question, not an answer, but with my own method I see here, I don’t see here, you can also walk past the forest.
                3. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 19: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  if people are on his side, then where are the fighters of the Islamic Corps and tens of thousands of Shiite militias, plus Hezbollah ??

                  where on the side of the igil any foreign rabble?
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  This is pure civil war.

                  this is pure conflict artificially created by the bourgeoisie, and this is its similarity with Ukraine, only there the gangs seized power
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 14 September 2018 20: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: poquello
                    where on the side of the igil any foreign rabble?

                    Well, you didn’t think that the rest of the Sunnis would watch them wet?
                    Quote: poquello
                    this is pure conflict artificially created by the bourgeoisie, and this is its similarity with Ukraine, only there the gangs seized power

                    Well, yes, artificially, there were no prerequisites, bang and suddenly))) You tell these tales to the wrong person.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 14 September 2018 21: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      Well, you didn’t think that the rest of the Sunnis would watch them wet?

                      Well, you didn’t think that the rest of Syria’s friendly forces would watch the Sunnis, including the United States, England and a group of Arab countries, assassinate?
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      Well, yes, artificially, there were no prerequisites, bang and suddenly))) You tell these tales to the wrong person.

                      ) give me the right amount of dough and 80% of people in an apartment building will say that they live on Mars, there are prerequisites for dissatisfaction in all countries and Syria is not a country where they would be critical
            4. the finish
              the finish 14 September 2018 11: 33
              0
              And why then do you refuse to do the same to Armenians in Artsakh?
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 41
                -3
                Quote: finish
                0
                And why then do you refuse to do the same to Armenians in Artsakh?

                but because, by analogy with Syria, you are local imported Kurds. In Azerbaijan, everyone can hate each other, as in Syria. But all together they do not like Armenians. And these are our lands.
                Therefore, it’s stupid to ask such questions to an Azerbaijani Turk)) Ahper, by golly, it’s the same thing that I’ll start to prove to you that there was genocide or not, or your dolma or ours)) There wasn’t our dolma either. Everything)))
                1. Karenius
                  Karenius 15 September 2018 09: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Quote: finish
                  0
                  And why then do you refuse to do the same to Armenians in Artsakh?

                  but because, by analogy with Syria, you are local imported Kurds. In Azerbaijan, everyone can hate each other, as in Syria. But all together they do not like Armenians. And these are our lands.
                  Therefore, it’s stupid to ask such questions to an Azerbaijani Turk)) Ahper, by golly, it’s the same thing that I’ll start to prove to you that there was genocide or not, or your dolma or ours)) There wasn’t our dolma either. Everything)))

                  Ali, let's start in order ...
                  This grandmother said in two that the Turks of Az-na have the right to speak on behalf of the Lezghins ... A lot of Lezgins dream of their own republic, which will border the Armenian NK ... I still understand if they will demand land that in your old textbooks it is positioned as the ancestral land of the union of 26 Gargar tribes, which the Armenians took 2500 years ago (but here our historians will have to say their word, I don’t know history before that).
                  Not all of you hate Armenians ...
                  --------
                  You brought your opinion about the participation of Russians from the 366th regiment ... This is not the correct opinion ... Central Asians helped us more ... We will not see this anymore - Nazarbayev does excellent work on pan-Turkism ... That’s why plus for Lukashenko, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, according to the numerical score of an ally / enemy, is more an enemy to us than a friend.
                  And to the Russian officers of the regiment, our "reckless" Commando, as an ardent representative of the Soviet military school of the Afghan spill, even once said: "In short, you must surrender!"
                  _______
                  You often quoted the Kafan pogrom ... I told you the reason - yours wanted to free the corridor from Nakhichevan from Armenians, they terrorized everyone ... and since the KGB Arm.SSR mainly served the Imperials, then none of them had any idea came to steal the local cool Turk of Islam (he worked as a butcher ... kasab) and tortured him to find out which of the local Turks often buys too much meat - one can guess - not for his family, but for emissaries from Baku.
                  So the patriots had to carry out the resettlement work ... By the way, then the organizer himself then riddled our cops with machine guns.
                  ____
                  About tolma (dolma in your opinion). If you show that it was prepared by Turkmen tribes there, in your own country, then you can call it yours. And the fact that Kikabidze does not like tolma is not from Frunzik’s words that they don’t know how to cook correctly, but from the fact that Georgians have not historically mastered this dish.
                  _______
                  Once upon a time, when I got a driver’s license, there was one Muslim with me, and he said that he studied at a school with instruction in their language, and that there are two such schools in Yerevan ... I can’t remember what was said about the Turkic school or the Kurdish one. ..
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                    1. Karenius
                      Karenius 15 September 2018 09: 39
                      -3
                      Krasnoflazhkovy, it’s easier and more familiar for you to sell your homeland to the Dnieper for German brands ... Keep quiet ... And to speak about Armenian-Russian relations - only imperators have the right to speak.
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                  2. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 15 September 2018 13: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Karenius
                    A lot of Lezgins dream of their republic, which will border the Armenian NK ..

                    Well, these are your fairy tales, the reality is different. If so many would have dreamed, then Azerbaijan during the war would easily split into Lezgistan and Talyshstan. But the reality of others and separs turned out to be scanty.
                    Quote: Karenius
                    You brought your opinion about the participation of Russian from 366 regiment ..

                    I did not bring it.
                    Quote: Karenius
                    If you show that the Turkmen tribes prepared it there, in your own country, then you can call it yours

                    but that is, they couldn’t come up with another place ?? Here all the tribes came to some new place and didn’t come up with a new place, but only used the past developments)))
                    1. Karenius
                      Karenius 15 September 2018 18: 12
                      -1
                      That in az. then the Talysh’s suppression was suppressed - there might have been participation of the Turks ...
                      As well as your capture of the Horadiz bridge to Iran ... They defended themselves against the Karabakh people perfectly ... It didn’t look like yours at all ...
                      ____
                      In the tolma and not only
                      We still talk about cooking barbecue with fire from above as "Kurdish", sometimes - "in Choban"
                      Think about it yourself ... All the Turkmen tribes in Central Asia did not prepare dolma, but then they suddenly "discovered" it?
                      It is more logical that we had tolma before you ... linguists and justified it, I do not know where.
        3. Faceless
          Faceless 13 September 2018 16: 35
          +4
          Dear poquello (poquello), the whole world has known about the upcoming attack on Idlib for a month and a half. Suddenly, over the past week, the Turks have sent 4 columns of armored vehicles there, which freely pass the ranks of terrorists, and these columns are deployed near the immediate front line, on the way of the main attack of the SAA. Do you think they are feeble-minded so as not to understand that such actions are in the hands of terrorists? Or, if Turkey is at war with terrorists, the imbecile last, letting armored vehicles pass without a fight in the heart of their positions? Here "either with us or against us" and the Turks are against it. No options.
          1. Black sniper
            Black sniper 13 September 2018 16: 55
            +2
            Thus, Ankara unequivocally makes it clear to Damascus (and Moscow too) that it is going to finally take militants in Idlib under its wing and retain the backbone of "resistance to the bloody Assad."
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            Where does the author get such peremptory conclusions? The Turks have a headache with the Kurds supported by the United States, it is unlikely that the Turks will go into a direct clash with the SAA while in the Russia-Iran-Turkey bloc to resolve the Syrian issue. hi
            1. Dashout
              Dashout 13 September 2018 17: 37
              +2
              Quote: Black Sniper
              Thus, Ankara unequivocally makes it clear to Damascus (and Moscow too) that it is going to finally take militants in Idlib under its wing and retain the backbone of "resistance to the bloody Assad."
              -----------------------------

              These peremptory statements are just another provocation
          2. Lekxnumx
            Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 17: 16
            +1
            Quote: Faceless
            ranks of terrorists

            Those whom you call terrorists are the opposition, the militia, so to speak. Only you consider them terrorists. All are just Shiites for you allies and for Jews, terrorists, Idlib allies for Turkey and not only for you, terrorists. Kurds are not fish for you US allies, terrorists for Turkey. Assad is the legitimate president for the rest of the tyrants, for the opposition, for the Kurds, for the USA, Europe. The list of identical terrorist-non-terrorists can be continued, but I hope you understand the meaning.
            And what conclusion can be made? The word terrorism is stupidly imposed and postponed from different groups according to the interests of the countries involved in the conflict! This is called double standards.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 13 September 2018 17: 39
              +2
              Quote: Lek3338
              This is called double standards.

              but what's the point)) We've written a lot about this, but no, all the same, in Idlib and throughout Syria, all 100% are terrorists.
            2. Faceless
              Faceless 13 September 2018 17: 57
              +2
              Quote: Lek3338
              Those whom you call terrorists are the opposition, the militia, so to speak


              Don't confuse warm with soft. The opposition has long realized that first it is necessary to end the war, and then deal with the political system and regime. More than 100 laid down their arms and stopped fighting as a result of the work of our center for the reconciliation of the parties. In Idlib, humanitarian corridors also operate to this day. Whoever wants can go out and lay down their arms. The terrorists were asked to surrender and not fight. Moreover, during the previous operations, all the irreconcilable were taken to the "Idlib Gadyushnik".

              Who exactly of those who hold the defense in Idlib do you want to call not the terrorist, but the opposition and the militia? The name of the group in the studio - then we'll talk.

              Now "White Helmets" 44 children will be poisoned with chlorine for the sake of a beautiful picture. Are they also the opposition, not terrorists?
              You have a mess in your head. This is not about double standards. When the proposal to sit down at the negotiating table is answered by cutting off heads, a "human shield" of civilians, taking hostages - this is not the opposition. This is what you need to burn with a hot iron without mercy until the tumor has spread.

              We treat Sunnis, Shiites, Jews, Alawites, and all other religions equally well. And in the same Israel many of our compatriots live. One may disagree with the policies of the same Israel. I personally do not agree, but this does not mean that all Jews will become terrorists. Shiites are also not always peaceful. Muslims generally have hotter blood, so what? - it is important what this or that group does, and not what kind of faith there people are doing. In the National Battles of Ukraine, many consider themselves Orthodox. So what? This does not prevent them from committing crimes.

              Double standards, this is just to call those who cut off their heads - rebels.
              1. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 18: 25
                -1
                Quote: Faceless
                Double standards, this is just to call those who cut off their heads - rebels.

                Comrade zombies, do you draw information in one language and from one source? Idlib has forces of Tahrir ash sham but they don’t control the whole city, a small part. You have porridge with milk naivety. First of all, did the opposition put down their arms, where did they go? Idlib. Why? Because this is the last stronghold of the opposition, not people want to live under Assad. What kind of arms they laid down? If they were all taken to Idlib from each AK, there are two shops. And Idlib is supplied with weapons from the same Turkey. Where were the opposition brought from other liberated cities? Well, if all of them are terrorists, in your opinion , what are we talking about? All but Assad are terrorists for you, but neither Europe nor the USA nor Turkey thinks so. Who gave the report that ISIS won? so they are going to fight with whom then. You probably forgot that the conflict in Syria flared up as a civilian against Assad. If everyone who is against a particular government and is engaged in an armed struggle, declare terrorists. That same DNI and LC are terrorists, but there is no militia for you. Most of Ukraine does not live there, on the contrary, a minority, Poroshenko is poorly poor in power with the tacit consent of the majority of Ukraine. Conclusion? In Syria, it all started this way too, but then other countries climbed up. Again double standards, you Russians like to include a fool. A Russian person is not typical (at least before) he disgusted hypocrisy is a national trait (I thought so). But a light-footed telly hypocrisy is replaced by the conviction of the absurd. I have nothing more to say, like I write obvious things. And you are mutually exclusive things.
                1. Faceless
                  Faceless 14 September 2018 10: 21
                  0
                  The oppositionist is a person, albeit not in agreement with the current government, but sincerely loving his Motherland, having different, different views on how it should develop. In my understanding, one of the best examples of the classical opposition can be remembered M.Yu. Lermontov. He did not agree with many things, but he earnestly loved the fatherland as an officer.

                  When people propose to divide the state into parts and overthrow the government. "and then there will be paradise, because we will come" - this is not opposition, this is a betrayal of the Motherland, because any fragmentation of the state always leads to its significant weakening. And if at the same time people take up arms - this is called an attempt to violently change the government, and this at all times was considered a serious crime in any country.

                  Separatists can never be patriots, because they put the selfish interests of their own community above the interests of the country as a whole. An example when the country's authorities carry out the genocide of part of its own population here is left out of the picture. Here anyone will separate, and there are enough examples over the past 20 years.

                  The Hayat Tahrir al-Sham named by you (banned in Russia) is an offshoot of the "Front for the Conquest of Syria" - Jabhat Fath al-Sham (also banned in Russia), until the summer of 2016 it was called more familiarly and popularly - "Front of support" or " Front to help the people of al-Sham "- Jabhat al-Nusra li-Ahl ash-Sham or simply Jabhat al-Nusra (all the groups that I have listed are banned in Russia). Tahrir al-Sham is their "rebranding" division, if you like. I don't see any reason to go into big details - the devil will break his leg there. And I suppose everyone has heard about the exploits of Jabhat al-Nusra. They are not considered terrorists only by the United States and its satellites (and even then, not all). The main reason for the renaming is the continuation of military assistance from the United States and its allies.

                  There is a good saying in Russia: "Even if you call it a pot, don't put it in the stove."

                  In conclusion: if you do not see the difference between the situation in Crimea, the civil war in Ukraine and the situation in Syria, I consider it absolutely pointless to conduct any dialogue with you about geopolitics.
                  Your radical Russophobic sentiments are visible with an unarmed gaze and any attempts to clarify anything wherever Russia is not in a negative light will be hostile to you.
                  My post is for the most part for other interested readers, but you have something to prove - what to throw peas on the wall.
                  Therefore, I consider it possible to consider the discussion with you on these issues completed.
                2. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 19: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Poroshenko is poorly poor in power with the tacit consent of the majority of Ukraine.

                  Poroshenko holds elections under the trunks of machine guns, there’s no sense at all about past elections, because the circus tent, it’s already crushing dissent before future ones, you don’t need to refer to the elections in dill and most
              2. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 18: 57
                -1
                Quote: Faceless
                live shield

                Lord (which I don’t believe in), how I hate these cliches. Damn, we are at a military forum and like men serving and informed about the modern war. What kind of human shields. You think Russia and the same Assad are calling their enemies to fight in the open field and You annexed Crimea by sending soldiers into a clean field and calling the APU in advance so that peace did not suffer, or so that children did not get a mental trauma? Do you think LDNR equips its positions exclusively in the fields? Does your friend no longer fight in the field, everyone conducts artillery training on populated areas points before the offensive. Everyone equips positions closer to civilization to simplify logistics, close to roads, points, cities. VSU now and then dreams that LDNR will bring all its equipment and personnel to the field and call for a duel to stupidly crush. The war has changed and the other, it’s not the 18th century now. Artillery works equally on the areas in our points and equally kills the Mirnyak. Tired of listening to horror stories on the forum, let the women do it a thief. Heads cut off. I’ll tell you more in the euphoria of losing a comrade, not only do their heads and do it better, and not only in the East, it was done by Europeans and Russians, and that's all.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 19: 52
                  +1
                  nobody annexed crimea
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Comrade, no one is fighting in the field, everyone is conducting artillery training in settlements before the offensive.

                  it says a lot about you, as well as about the USA judging by the bombs on Cancer etc.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Everyone equips positions closer to civilization to simplify logistics, close to roads, points, cities

                  stupid nonsense, justifying the cover of the civilian population, as a service man and an expert on modern wars does not know the concept of evacuation of civilians
              3. Yeraz
                Yeraz 13 September 2018 19: 02
                -4
                Quote: Faceless
                More than 100 laid down their arms and stopped fighting as a result of the work of our center for reconciliation of the parties.

                hahahah in the line that was a fierce war and a lot of victims, you recognize the opposition that which is without weapons ???)))))
                In such wars there is no opposition without weapons.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 20: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  In such wars there is no opposition without weapons.

                  yes, yes, the opposition without weapons quite calmly defends its point of view in the negotiations, and as it doesn’t, if it exists, the opposition with weapons either does not trust the security guarantees (as it happens in the LPR, it doesn’t, because the elections are in dill fiction, and there have already been guarantees), or believes that the weapon is a more powerful argument, but the opposition is non-negotiable, the hostilities are not the opposition, this is the enemy
            3. Sergey Ka
              Sergey Ka 13 September 2018 18: 12
              +1
              The meaning is correct, but the definition is not. This is called - geopolitics
            4. Brut
              Brut 14 September 2018 12: 24
              +1
              Quote: Lek3338
              The ones you call terrorists are opposition

              The opposition does not take up arms and kills its fellow citizens. In Armenia, the regime also ruled for more than 20 years, but we had a real opposition, which gathered the people at peaceful rallies and this put pressure on the regime at the very reluctance. The regime receded without a single drop of blood.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 44
                0
                Quote: Brut
                In Armenia, the regime also ruled for more than 20 years, but we had a real opposition, which gathered the people at peaceful rallies and this put pressure on the regime at the very reluctance.

                Listen, do not confuse Arabs with Armenians. These are the same blood and slaughter each other and blow up mosques stupidly, not even religion, but DIRECTIONS of religion. What kind of peaceful pressure ??? Che in Syria immediately The armed conflict began ??? And the Alavaites, by the way, also came to the rally, and then the state just started to stir up, and then shoot. The real majority were against them. And ash stump when they shoot at the opposition or it is silent or rebuffs.
                And then Alavita did not have a community against the rest. In Armenia, all Armenians are Christians and do not care whether the Gregorian or Orthodox.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 20: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Che in Syria immediately The armed conflict began ???

                  yes, almost immediately, several times for bloodshed, the organizers of the buza arranged a beating of the crowd by the authorities and drove off. Gathered to argue - talk about Libya or Iraq first, everything is everywhere under a carbon copy with some national characteristics.
          3. poquello
            poquello 13 September 2018 19: 16
            0
            Quote: Faceless
            if Turkey is at war with terrorists, the idiots are the latter, having let armored vehicles in the heart of their positions without a fight? Here "either with us or against us" and the Turks are against it. No options.

            I wouldn’t be so categorical, the Turks are in the top three in Syria, the main complaints against Idlib are shelling of the SAA and the execution of civilians, it is quite possible that at the last meeting they agreed to give the Turks the opportunity to ensure order
            1. Faceless
              Faceless 14 September 2018 11: 01
              0
              Dear poquello (poquello). Perhaps not very well put it. This calculation was related only to the position of Turkey in Syria: I do not call for war with the Turks.
              Regarding Idlib. Turkey's interests: to keep there an enclave of uncontrolled SAAs, as long-established economic ties have been established with them (not quite legal, often). In general, ideally - to grab this piece of territory forever + something else (the Turks always liked Allepo). Turkey is not the first time to solve its problems.
              Is there any need to clarify the attitude of the Syrian government towards this approach?
              If Idlib is cleared, the last stronghold of the militants will be destroyed (we will leave Et-Tanf outside the brackets, and "little things" among the deserts do not count). After that, the question will arise of how to expel the Turks from the territory they occupied following the results of the "Olive Branch" and "Unwavering Determination".
              At what the question will not be SAA vs terrorists, but SAA vs Turks. The obvious option is to help the Kurds fight Turkey, in exchange for cultural autonomy at the end of the war. And the SAA (here we mean the IRGC, Hezbollah, Liva Fatimiyun and Zanabiyun, Iraqi Shiites and many more) + Turkish Kurds will be expelled from their land.
              Of course, there are a lot of "buts" in this scenario, but the strategy is obvious, and Turkey does not want to lead to this.
              At the same time, the presence of the "Idlib viper" contradicts the interests of the Russian Federation: it is a festering wound, a hotbed of terrorists, terrorist attacks and provocations, which we will not accept + we should not give the US a foothold for influence. Therefore, the days of terrorists are numbered there.
              It will be difficult, long and difficult to "clean up" (according to different scenarios), but the result is inevitable. In the course of this, naturally, we will also talk with the Turks. But this will not greatly affect the results.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 49
                0
                Quote: Faceless
                The obvious option is to help the Kurds fight Turkey, in exchange for cultural autonomy at the end of the war.

                why do they need cultural autonomy, in which over time Damascus can deprive or not deprive them of settling these lands by Arabs, and then remove this autonomy in a natural way. Kurds remember how Damascus did them by non-citizens.
                And why do they need autonomy when they are under the wing of the United States and feel normal.
                Quote: Faceless
                And the SAA (here we mean the IRGC, Hezbollah, Liva Fatimiyun and Zanabiyun, Iraqi Shiites and many more) + Kurds of Turks will be expelled from their land

                This will be problematic. Since the sympathies of some of the Sunni Arabs and the whole part of the Turkmens are on the side of Turkey and when the Turks stand on the lands where this people are, then it will not work to clean them up with the help of the locals.
                1. Faceless
                  Faceless 14 September 2018 14: 03
                  0
                  Regarding cultural autonomy. Of course, with time everything can be deprived - there are no eternal pacts and treaties, which Ribbentrop has proven all his life. What was - was. And in exchange for help, why not offer? .. Under the wing of the United States means ongoing conflicts, and autonomy - a legitimate status and a solid foundation and reason for a ceasefire. And there it is already easier to talk.
                  About the problematic - I agree completely. But in the east, nothing happens without problems - too much tangle of contradictions and too hot blood. Such a forecast is one of many options that does not seem fantastic to me, no more.
                2. Shahno
                  Shahno 14 September 2018 19: 54
                  0
                  By the way, regarding the attitude to the Kurds and questions on the religious civil war in Syria. Data

                  Marked shops belonging to the Kurds ...
                3. poquello
                  poquello 14 September 2018 20: 20
                  0
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  And why do they need autonomy when they are under the wing of the United States and feel normal.

                  then that the United States will be kicked out of there, and autonomy will no longer be offered
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 14 September 2018 20: 42
                    +1
                    Quote: poquello
                    then that the United States will be kicked out of there, and autonomy will no longer be offered

                    Well, the Arabs drove them out and slaughtered more than once ??? The United States hypothetically can do this, and the Arabs did this several times. Therefore, Damascus has less confidence than the United States.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 14 September 2018 22: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      Quote: poquello
                      then that the United States will be kicked out of there, and autonomy will no longer be offered

                      Well, the Arabs drove them out and slaughtered more than once ??? The United States hypothetically can do this, and the Arabs did this several times. Therefore, Damascus has less confidence than the United States.

                      ett not the USA will drive someone out, ett the USA will be expelled from Syria, that Kurds can heroically die for transatlantic interests, and it was normal for them to live in front of this buz
              2. poquello
                poquello 14 September 2018 20: 17
                0
                and the position of the Turks is also connected by the treaties of the troika, and they are not at all in conflict with the Russian Federation either, IMHO, or they provide full order there or move
        4. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 13 September 2018 17: 48
          +1
          so it’s not at all a fact

          absolutely right (!)
          13.09.18 - Turkish mercenaries based in Azaz and Kaljibrin fired on 7 shells in Tel Rifaat village
          Turkey has nothing to do with it (!)
          SAA do not attack and are targeted artillery fire (!)

          12.09.18/XNUMX/XNUMX - Khaled At-Tannawi (Abu Omar ad-Dimashki), a commander from the Feylak al-Rahman group, was killed by the SAA shelling in the Al-Latamin region of northern Hama.
      2. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 14 September 2018 09: 08
        -3
        Quote: Logall
        Soak with the Turks ... Taip himself decided to get in there. At the same time, we’ll settle accounts with our Turks.

        What kind of yours is this? And then, they’re too tough for you, it’s not a novice to poison you.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 September 2018 13: 46
      +1
      Naivety is akin to dementia. What else do you need to know about Erdogan to understand his intentions in this matter? And we brought two pipelines to its territory, now we are also dependent on the Sultan ..... I will not develop further, the picture is not entirely good for us ....
      1. Faceless
        Faceless 14 September 2018 14: 11
        0
        Gas is gas, and Idlib is Idlib. East is a delicate matter. R.T. Erdogan is not our enemy. It is respected by aggressively defending the interests of its country, which makes it predictable and, in general, understandable. Where the interests of Turkey will coincide with the interests of the Russian Federation - we will cooperate. Where interests are contradictory, we will seek mutually acceptable compromises.
        Generally speaking - it should be so. This is better than when a country acts on orders from outside, spit on its own interests and the interests of the counterparty.
        In Turkey, from the point of view of gasification, the field is not plowed. And R.T. Erdogan understands this. Therefore, here cooperation will be long-term and mutually beneficial. And the rest - we must talk about the rest. Another word about gas - take a look at Bulgaria. Finally, they thought about what they had lost ... And how much money, by the grace of the Western masters passed by them. The elbows are now biting, and late. RT Erdogan is not such a fool to step on the same rake.
      2. poquello
        poquello 14 September 2018 20: 32
        0
        Quote: Kent0001
        What else do you need to know about Erdogan to understand his intentions in this matter?

        so much more to learn
        Quote: Kent0001
        Naivety is akin to dementia.

        so this is for you even tomorrow in the Kremlin, for all you know, for Putin, for Shoigu, for Erdogan, for Napoleon
  2. tagil
    tagil 13 September 2018 16: 35
    0
    To be honest, it is not clear what the Turks are counting on. The forces are concentrated, the offensive is prepared and practically started. No one will stop, Idlib will be cleaned up with or without the Turks, but they will be cleaned up. If the Turks think that their presence will change something, then they are wrong. The decision has already been made, and we and the Syrians know that a blow by the United States and their "democratic" mongrels will follow, and anyway, the liberation operation will continue. So don't be offended later. And the delivery of the S-400 should be suspended.
    1. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 13 September 2018 16: 55
      -1
      [quote = tagil] Forces are concentrated, the attack is prepared and almost begun. No one will stop, Idlib will be cleared with the Turks or without but cleared. If the Turks think that their presence will change something, then they are mistaken. [/ Quote]
      You seem to live in a different dimension, there is no idea what is happening there. Yes, and how to know, reading one deso.
      [quote = tagil] we and the syrians know [/ quote]
      Not too loud? When did the Tomahawks fly too?
      [quote = tagil] If the Turks think that their presence will change something, then they are mistaken.
      If they think so, then something will change. follow the news
      1. tagil
        tagil 13 September 2018 17: 06
        0
        Is it a shame for the allies?
        You seem to live in a different dimension, there is no idea what is happening there. Yes, and how to know, reading one deso.
        The main thing is that you live in this dimension. What the Turks expect is their problem. What we count on is our problem.
        1. Ramzay121
          Ramzay121 14 September 2018 08: 59
          -1
          Quote: Tagil
          Is it a shame for the allies?

          And you are offended for someone, really for the Syrians, a cat. hoping for Russia's support, it collapsed to ruins. With what a fright, Russia, which does not even have a border with Syria, should have more interests in Syria than Turkey. There, someone raises his rating by raising the videoconferencing to the sky and bombing horrible civilians too, and someone is fighting terror at their borders, do you feel the difference? Hardly.
          1. tagil
            tagil 14 September 2018 12: 58
            -1
            There, someone raises his rating by raising the videoconferencing to the sky and bombing horrible civilians too, and someone is fighting terror at their borders, do you feel the difference?
            Anu the number of dead from the evil Russian bring?
            [quoteWhat a fright, Russia, which does not even have a border with Syria, should have more interests in Syria than Turkey. ] [/ quote] Since when does Turkey have interests in the Caucasus and Ukraine? What is their dog business to the Crimea? What is their dog business for Europe, Egypt? Be careful with the statements.
            1. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 14 September 2018 13: 13
              -2
              Quote: Tagil
              Anu the number of dead from the evil Russian bring?


              For starters, you sometimes switch the TV channel to international.

              Quote: Tagil
              Since when does Turkey have interests in the Caucasus and Ukraine? What is their dog business to the Crimea? What is their dog business for Europe, Egypt?


              Who canine affairs is visible to the whole world. And that Turkey is fighting in the Caucasus, Ukraine, Europe, Egypt?))) Heal and drink less.
              1. tagil
                tagil 14 September 2018 13: 21
                0
                And that Russia is fighting in Syria (Priyam Afghanistan). The whole world is not with Europe, much less Turkey is with you. And Turkey is climbing into a foreign country. I would look at your cries if our troops entered Nagorno-Karabakh. So get a drug addict. And yes, sometimes switch from Turkish TV too.
                1. Ramzay121
                  Ramzay121 14 September 2018 13: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: Tagil
                  And that Russia is fighting in Syria (Priyam Afghanistan). The whole world is not with Europe, and especially not Turkey with you. And Turkey is climbing into a foreign country. I would look at your cries if our troops entered Nagorno-Karabakh. So get a drug addict.

                  Turkey climbs into a foreign country, a cat. turned into a terrorist anthill and defends its interests at the borders. And the fact that Russia grabbed Crimea from Ukraine, Abkhazia and Ossetia from Georgia is the norm right? And about Karabakh, and who, for your sore reasons, took our lands, in the late 80s and early 90s who fought on the side of the Armenians, what 366 regiment did there, who together with the Armenians massacred in Khojaly. Really, the Armenians themselves did all this on their own, but no, their gut is thin, without you anywhere. Your nickname is talking about you)), free.
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                  2. poquello
                    poquello 14 September 2018 20: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Ramzay121
                    And about Karabakh, and who, for your sore reasons, took our lands, in the late 80s and early 90s who fought on the side of the Armenians, what 366 regiment did there, who together with the Armenians massacred in Khojaly

                    baby, the Russians fought there from two sides, but it’s very convenient (or profitable?) to blame the Russians, in the 90s the CIA drove the CIA
                    1. Ramzay121
                      Ramzay121 15 September 2018 08: 43
                      0
                      Quote: poquello
                      baby, the Russians fought there from two sides, but it’s very convenient (or profitable?) to blame the Russians, in the 90s the CIA drove the CIA


                      It is completely possible that in 10-20 years we will find out that today the CIA also steers Russia). When I say that I fought, I did not mean nationality, but a country. There was a 366 regiment in Karabakh, and then the Pskov division, etc. These are facts for you, so you turned out to be a child.
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 15 September 2018 17: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Ramzay121
                        There was a 366 regiment in Karabakh, and then the Pskov division, etc. These are the facts for you

                        these are not facts, this is twice repeated .. IMHO bullshit
                      2. Karenius
                        Karenius 15 September 2018 19: 54
                        -1
                        I answered Ali above (mixed you up) ... Of the 366 regiments, mainly Central Asians helped us. The Russians very many times refused to help then.
                2. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 14 September 2018 13: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Tagil
                  And what is Russia fighting in Syria (Priam Afghanistan)

                  Well launches Caliber, VKS, which even attracted strategic bombers, Special Forces, Military Police, Instructors in the Syrian army, Generals coordinating operations of the Syrian army, Mercenaries from Wagner .. But do not fight)))))))))

                  Quote: Tagil
                  And Turkey is climbing into a foreign country.

                  But the Russian Federation in Ukraine and Georgia didn’t climb into a foreign country ?? These are all the reasons why the Russian Federation got in, just as Turkey says.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 14 September 2018 20: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    But the Russian Federation in Ukraine and Georgia climbed into a foreign country ??

                    not we started and there and there
              2. poquello
                poquello 14 September 2018 20: 43
                0
                Quote: Ramzay121
                For starters, you sometimes switch the TV channel to international.

                Yes, no problem, but I would like the arguments of your chatter
          2. poquello
            poquello 14 September 2018 20: 40
            0
            Quote: Ramzay121
            Quote: Tagil
            Is it a shame for the allies?

            And you are offended for someone, really for the Syrians, a cat. hoping for Russia's support, it collapsed to ruins. With what a fright, Russia, which does not even have a border with Syria, should have more interests in Syria than Turkey. There, someone raises his rating by raising the videoconferencing to the sky and bombing horrible civilians too, and someone is fighting terror at their borders, do you feel the difference? Hardly.

            about the ruins ett you about the Americans or from white tales heard?
            1. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 15 September 2018 08: 45
              0
              Quote: poquello
              about the ruins ett you about the Americans or from white tales heard?


              Well, certainly not from Solovyov and Baghdasarov, and even more so from Simonyan.
              1. poquello
                poquello 15 September 2018 17: 11
                0
                Quote: Ramzay121
                Quote: poquello
                about the ruins ett you about the Americans or from white tales heard?


                Well, certainly not from Solovyov and Baghdasarov, and even more so from Simonyan.

                ett I mean that either you yap or facts, then I believe that you are simply mistaken
                1. Ramzay121
                  Ramzay121 17 September 2018 09: 16
                  0
                  You first write a mouth and then write, yap in your tribe gets divorced, this time. Regarding the facts, what other facts do you need to list when it is elementary that all the world media show, and you like them stupidly deny. Here they find two red-handed, show data and 100 facts of their involvement in poisoning, mediocre dumbasses brazenly deny. Yes, the whole world is laughing at you, disgraced everywhere. And you don’t have to pretend to be a tough guy, they saw when they soaked 200 Vagnorites as they answered, in a rag. Needless to say, when your allies even throw you, the Kurds are already with the Americans and Armenians in the same place)). I see very badly)
    2. borberd
      borberd 13 September 2018 17: 13
      -6
      They will stop ... The Turks in the Idlib region have more forces than the Iranians and Assadians could muster. So they will stand in front of each other and chants shout - "I swayed your house pipe" (c). All this disgrace will last until the main uracagans gather and grind them according to their notions. And then someone's face will be lost, and for some reason it seems that it will not be the face of the Sultan. Although I may be wrong ...
      1. tagil
        tagil 13 September 2018 17: 18
        0
        Hardly, otherwise it was not worth it all to start with Idlib. A couple of artillery strikes from both Staron and airstrikes in the immediate vicinity and the Sultan will either have to seriously fight (which is unlikely) or run away losing slippers. Although I do not argue that everything is not going according to plan.
        1. borberd
          borberd 13 September 2018 17: 29
          -9
          Someone miscalculated about a sultan friend saved from an assassination attempt. And the Sultan has his own plans, and Idlib in these plans is listed as - "Mine, I will not give it back." The Turks have seriously climbed into Idlib, and are not going to get out. Moreover, the Turks and their allied Barmaley have solid forces, in the region of 80-100 thousand militants. Assad and Iranian proxies can deploy approximately the same forces. And given that the Turks and the Air Force and artillery are better than Assad and the Shiites, the outcome looks just in favor of the Turks and Co.
          1. tagil
            tagil 13 September 2018 17: 42
            +1
            Someone miscalculated about a friend, the Sultan, saved from the attempt.
            Here I do not agree. They probably calculated very well and decided that this sultan is better than the American protege who came after the coup. And the psychological portrait of the Sultan was also probably calculated. So I do not think that the Turks are so eager to fight. Army to army and victory can be a feast.
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 13 September 2018 17: 44
            -2
            Quote: borberd
            Someone miscalculated about a friend, the Sultan, saved from the attempt

            With what fright did Russia save him ?? The Baghdasarovs and the others launched this duck, and the people repeat it. They thanked Russia for supporting the current government during and after.
          3. Ramzay121
            Ramzay121 14 September 2018 13: 08
            0
            Quote: borberd
            Someone miscalculated about a friend, the Sultan, saved from the attempt


            No, the problem is that those who are simply deaf do not hear the interlocutor sitting at the same round table. After all, they asked for a friendly few days ago at the summit in Iran, do not bomb, do not meddle, there are our interests, the border, refugees, etc. They asked, warned that they would take in response based on their national interests. So no, the very next day the bombing. This plane has already passed this story, no one has learned. If you can’t calculate just one move ahead, then what to do there generally)).
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 13 September 2018 17: 42
      -1
      Quote: Tagil
      and still the liberation operation will continue.

      Well, let's see how the valiant Syrian army will fight with the regular units of the Turkish army.
      There will be 3 options
      Turkey will leave and surrender
      CAA will not go there
      The compromise south of Idlib and the KhTS together with Turkey will be cleared and that’s all.
      It is not yet clear what will happen.
  3. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 September 2018 16: 39
    0
    Got it. And the question is, where is the US "chemical attack" to ostrize? And there, and there in the tail and in the mane. And gKhaz is not enough for everyone.laughing
  4. JonnyT
    JonnyT 13 September 2018 16: 54
    +1
    "It can't be! Misinformation, Endrogan partner, he didn't supply the FSA with weapons" - that's the end of the fairy tale.
    Moreover, the Turks will fight for idlib as their land
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 17: 21
      +1
      He supplied, armed and taught what he doesn’t hide. You come up with fairy tales for yourself in Russia, then you yourself are offended by the lack of a happy end for this fairy tale. You draw conclusions from your fairy tale told on TV .20 at least prepared the opposition Turks, even rockets Grad (recently) and clean their forces of their border from the Kurds. The infantry of the Turks is the opposition, their military equipment, and their militia.
    2. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 13 September 2018 22: 22
      +1
      And why is it their land? The territory of Syria. CAA has every right to inflict decent damage on them at home.
      1. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 14 September 2018 12: 59
        +1
        Quote: Carpenter 2329
        The territory of Syria. CAA has every right to inflict decent damage on them at home.

        And whoever keeps them, let them do it if one place is enough. It will turn out worthily or not, it will already show time, but what they get in return will be worthy, no doubt.
  5. Dave36
    Dave36 13 September 2018 16: 55
    0
    Assad conditionally controlled by Moscow. The fact that he is a brave man is not a matter of debate. He also can’t hesitate .. You need to start moving to the borders!
  6. borberd
    borberd 13 September 2018 17: 03
    -6
    Apparently, the sultan found a new market for selling tomato, this is not Russia ...
  7. Dave36
    Dave36 13 September 2018 17: 05
    0
    Another reason to hit ASADU amers (
  8. Battle penguin
    Battle penguin 13 September 2018 17: 16
    0
    At the same time, the Turkish army deployed additional forces to the south of Idlib - in the area of ​​the city of Murek, located on the Khan-Sheikhun-Hama highway. This is exactly the territory the attack on which the CAA prepares.

    Something is not entirely clear, the article is somehow muddy .. The main task is to wet the devils, and we'll figure it out! soldier
    1. gurta
      gurta 13 September 2018 18: 40
      -3
      Quote: War Penguin
      The main task is to wet the devils, and then we'll figure it out!
      Duck didn’t decide who the hell ISIS did not break it, SAM said. And who is there? Team Mikhanov on combat sofas?
      1. Battle penguin
        Battle penguin 13 September 2018 18: 45
        0
        Quote: gurta
        Duck didn’t decide who the hell ISIS did not break it, SAM said.

        Well, they finish off with the Turks .. And what? negative
  9. Livonetc
    Livonetc 13 September 2018 17: 18
    +2
    And what extent can the Turks cover in length?
    Do they have infinite powers?
    The Turks struck the Kurds, so that they, in the conditions of the movement of part of the Turkish formations to another front, would not inflict a serious blow.
    But they can row.
    And Syria and the allies can still wait.
    And "massage" the radicals in other areas.
    Such a flexible strategy has already brought tangible results.
    Let the bastards bite into the ground, there will be no desire and strength for more active actions.
    In the meantime, the liberated regions will equip themselves to normal life and provide reliable defense of the liberated territories.
    With the course of the arrangement and the establishment of life in the liberated territories, the territory under the terrorists will gradually turn into a territory free of normal peaceful people.
    The terrorists and their inner circle will remain.
    Let’s see for a long time whether there will be enough of them and Turks.
  10. Tektor
    Tektor 13 September 2018 17: 23
    -1
    I would send there Mercury-BM, Penicillin, Lever-AV and Uran-9 with "Serpent Gorynych" in sufficient quantities. You still need such a thing, similar to a tennis ball thrower, but instead of balls, it would throw F-1.
  11. Forestol
    Forestol 13 September 2018 17: 43
    -2
    There are so many graduates of the General Staff Academy on this resource! And I would remind you that in the war, ANY supply and logistics decide everything, it’s not for nothing that Suvorov was a general from infantry. The location of Syria for Russia is very unfortunate. It is very similar to the Far East and Port Arthur in 1905, and Tsushima ... Iraq, controlled by the United States, will block the Russian Air Force at any time. The Turks, creating a precedent, will block the Bosphorus, under the guise of the US Navy. Gibraltar, if desired, is blocked by the NATO Coalition. And for Russia, not war will be relevant, but simply the possibility of evacuating the RF Armed Forces from Syria, at the end of the MTO reserves. I understand that the patriots on the couch in a rage have already put on their pants with anger, but this is real. Literally today, with the NEED to finally complicate the situation, some Iranian proxies will blow up a couple of barrels of chlorine in Idlib. And Russia will be forced to raise rates, destroying PU missiles of the Coalition and the United States flying to our bases in Syria and Assad's bunkers. We will announce a global boycott, and Iran will solve several tactical problems in the economy .... So, do not wake up famously. Assad utilizes the gangs that he collected to storm Idlib, so that they would not trample in the return.
    1. poquello
      poquello 14 September 2018 21: 10
      0
      Quote: Forestol
      destroying PU missiles of the Coalition and the USA

      why did the academician of the General Staff)))) not doper what is more convenient to attack the US Navy covering the Bosphorus in this situation
      Quote: Forestol
      Iranian proxies

      Academician of the General Staff of the Intelligence of the Russian Federation does not believe, I panimayu))))))))
  12. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 13 September 2018 17: 44
    0
    Here the sultan showed his true face as a sponsor and accomplice of militants and terrorists. Then the Syrians must be beaten on the turkatin! And then the world does not expel them from Syria, it’s better now to put the Erdogad with his army in place — the call from Syria, or die! !!
    1. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 14 September 2018 09: 03
      -2
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Then the Syrians must be beaten on the turkatin!

      You think the Syrians are completely, this is the end for Assad and others will have to pack things.
  13. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 17: 45
    -1
    Although it’s not a thankful undertaking, I’ll make a prediction. Assad Russia Iran will play opposition on one side to the other, Turkey and the West will flex their muscles and then divide Idlib. One part will be occupied by Turkey and the other Assad of the Russian Federation and Iran. They will shoot selectively, Russia will bomb areas where the opposition is not to bomb where the Turkish military, but the opposition will shift under the wing of Turkey. The Turks will bomb the Kurds and Assad but not to shoot where the Russian advisers are. And thus, each side will want to snatch a piece more, but it won’t reach the war between Turkey and the Russian Federation. The stakes are too high, the seca will show the cards but with the division of the common fund later. The economic interests of Turkey and Russia are too high to be nullified because of Assad or the opposition. But local skirmishes will continue, Assad does not control for example Shiites from Iran and the Russian Federation, Turkey does not control the entire opposition, even prepared its own, as practice has shown. Caution, then Iran, the Russian Federation and Turkey will come together again to agree on something they couldn’t recently. Russia increased the bet in Iran and Erdogan accepted, and the bet is too big for one player to get even to Russia. Both sides thought that the opponent was bluffing, and eventually divided the city.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 13 September 2018 18: 11
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      Istanbul, let Erdogan share with us, or straits, but let someone else not touch!
      1. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx 13 September 2018 18: 35
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        Quote: ANCIENT
        Istanbul, let Erdogan share with us, or straits, but let someone else not touch

        Quite the opposite, how are they dividing Berlin, for example, a little did the Soviets divide foreign countries together with the United States? But "their" taken away from others is not shared, for example, the Kuriles. Turkey also took Istanbul away from others and will share the figs, you can only take it away. people climbed under the tanks without weapons. The people are not the one to share theirs.
  14. K-50
    K-50 13 September 2018 18: 53
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    Ankara makes it clear to Damascus (and to Moscow too) that it is going to finally take the militants in Idlib under its wing and preserve the backbone of "resistance to bloody Assad."

    To bury everyone in the ground together so that there is no one to assassinate Assad.
  15. Adimius38
    Adimius38 13 September 2018 19: 15
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    there is a very incomprehensible game, we don’t know what Putin and Erdogan discussed. They write that Russian aviation does not strike in the idlib, which means there is some kind of agreement.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 September 2018 20: 59
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    Tear off his wings and skewer.
  17. raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 13 September 2018 22: 21
    +1
    any tale from the book 1001 night is more believable than this mess.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 14 September 2018 20: 41
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      The Middle East, here the official is only to save face. Contract is an occasion, and power is a seal. That is life....
  18. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 14 September 2018 06: 36
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    ... Thus, Ankara makes it clear to Damascus (and to Moscow too) that it is going to finally take the militants in Idlib under its wing and preserve the backbone of "resistance to bloody Assad."

    Or does Turkey help in the advance of CAA
  19. poquello
    poquello 14 September 2018 21: 37
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    Yeraz,
    Quote: Yeraz
    Quote: poquello
    Already already dough for a buildup picked up?

    loot does not help when all countries are for this power.
    Quote: poquello
    and specify who in the Russian Federation they declared terrorists ?, what did you want to say?

    it seems to have clearly said everyone who is against Assad with weapons in his hands.

    Well this is not a fact, the loot helped in Ukraine, Lebanon, Iraq,
    In the Russian Federation, do not the gangs be divided into "moderate" and igilonusrovtsy?
  20. Karenius
    Karenius 15 September 2018 10: 05
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    Sweetheart,
    Keep quiet, the last of the bald foreigners ...
    He said already - the Bear will wake up - he will bury all the corrupt ... So flee from Russia - a lot of historical revenge from the corrupt will require blood in the ground.