Money up front! Denmark is ready to put three minesweepers to Ukraine

The Ukrainian Navy will soon be replenished with Danish minesweepers. The Danish government has approved the sale to Ukraine for 102 million euros of three 450-ton multifunctional boats of the type Flyvefisken (Standard Flex 300 project) in the form of anti-mine ships. These boats withdrawn from the Danish Navy in the 2010-2012 years and are in a sludge on the Danish naval base Korsor, reports bmpd blog with reference to diana_mihailova.

Flyvefisken type boats on conservation in the Danish naval base Korsor

Reportedly, the Danish Navy received 14 multifunctional Flyvefisken-type boats of the Standard Flex 300 project in the 1989-1996. Between 2006 and 2012, 13 of 14 Flyvefisken-type boats were decommissioned from the Danish Navy. Three boats were sold to Lithuania and five - to Portugal as guard ships. Four mine-launching boats, used by the Danish Navy as minesweepers, were decommissioned and sent to sludge at the Korser naval base, where they are currently located.

It was the sale of three boats with mine equipment to Ukraine that was approved by the Danish government back in 2017, when the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Vice Admiral Igor Voronchenko, announced, within the framework of the concept of restoring the naval fleet Ukraine, the country will develop the potential of mine defense. According to him, the Ukrainian Navy really needs minesweepers, as "the fleet suffered irreparable losses after the annexation of Crimea by Russia."

Perhaps Ukrainian politicians dreamed that Denmark would simply give them decommissioned boats, but apparently in Europe they also love money and the number did not pass. Denmark agreed to give the boat, but for a lump sum. So it remains only to pay and three "almost new" boats will be part of the Ukrainian Navy, but ...

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[rotmistr60]

sale to Ukraine for EUR 102 million of three 450-ton multi-function boats

The Ukrainian outstretched hand and complaints to Russia did not have the expected result. If you want used, pay and get. The Danes and those realized that it was necessary to take money from Ukraine first, and not to believe promises and lamentations.

[bouncyhunter]

Gene, hello! In the 404th they will begin to whine that they are already fighting with Russia with all their might, and here the Danes do not want to give boats and demand money. As a conclusion: the Danes are agents of the Kremlin.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bouncyhunter

..conclusion: Danes are agents of the Kremlin.

pasha , so I disagree with you: the Danes are agents of their own interest and they do not care about whining, striving for "European" "values". For 404, this is a hint - there will be no freebies. And the funniest thing is, when a clause appears in the contract - to repair only in Denmark, the old Europeans did such a trick, then even the amount of the sale would seem like only seeds.

[Jolly oldster sailor]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: bouncyhunter

..conclusion: Danes are agents of the Kremlin.

pasha , so I do not agree with you: the Danes are agents of their own interest and they do not care about whining, striving for "European" "values". For 404, this is a hint - there will be no freebies. And the funniest thing is when in the contract a reservation will appear - to repair only in Denmark, such a feint the old Europeans have already cranked up, even then the sale amount will seem like only seeds.

She is already there a priori, this reservation!

[bouncyhunter]

Hobo, hello! This is the problem of Svidomo, but not ours.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hobo, hello! This is the problem of Svidomo, but not ours.

Pasha, you know that for me it’s necessary to observe the interests of your State in the first place. And then someone should not be interested in a headache, a wallet to help them

[Sergey985]

It’s not enough to buy, more money is needed for maintenance. If there is no money for Sahaidachny, what other ships can we talk about? Can not afford the Navy of Ukraine. All finances for the salaries of admirals go.

[Warrior with machine gun]

why be surprised if there are more admirals than ships))

[NIKN]

Three boats were sold to Lithuania
Even Lithuania found the money, maybe they will find it?
A boat is normal for the outskirts. And the draft is small, I mean that in the Sea of ​​Azov they can work ...
Main characteristics
Displacement 320 t (light)
450 t (full)
Length 54 m
Width 9 m
Precipitation 2,5 m
Engines
1 gas turbine engine LM500
2 diesel engines MTU 16V 396TB94
1 GM 12V-71 diesel
3 DG GM 6-71
Travel speed 30 knots. Max.
20 knots diesels
7 knot water pump
Cruising range 3860 miles (18 knots)
Crew 19-29 people.

In the most complex version of the minesweeper, the ship is installed [1]:
76 mm AU in the bow;
UVP missiles Sea Sparrow in one of the feed slots;
IBIS-43 post for control of self-propelled remote-controlled boats, each of which tows an underwater vehicle with a side-view GAS TSM 2054;
A crane for launching a motor boat used by demolition divers;
1-2 controlled underwater vehicles "Double Needles", placed on deck.

[novel66]

now it will be possible to produce three new admirals

[Irek]

On the way, Emeriki went selling old things to their skopak for the price of a new one.

[HAM]

Yes, Ukraine-Europe, or rather the ass of Europe, and it is advisable to slightly cover it ....

[bk316]

And let them buy. This is a trick from the 90s: buy a decommissioned foreign car at a dump, paint it and sell it "almost like new". And then every month something to change in it. For what show-off to go on it to the city (to the naval parade)! I had such a friend, just a crest.

[Romario_Argo]

Minesweepers of the 12700 Alexandrite project with a displacement of more than 900 tons - versus 450 tons.
but I don’t think that Ukraine will be given breakthrough technologies
for example, like ours: the unmanned underwater complex Galtel with mini torpedoes Chilim; unmanned boats

[gabonskijfront]

The minesweeper is quite a multi-purpose ship, it is quite capable of carrying out fire, setting minefields, not to mention mine trawling, so the range of tasks that the Ukrainian Navy can carry out will expand significantly.

[Chertt]

Yes. Widely modular vessels of the "Fluvefisken" type are quite imagined, serious weight. And if you put the drunk Captain-Hero at the helm, so he will have time to do a lot of things before ours are drowned

[Jolly oldster sailor]

Iron, he is the iron ... His job is to iron the sea. What is the fire effect? ​​We also had guns, but all the power was directed into the water (MPC) ... But with the fact that they will not be superfluous for Ukraine, I agree, I saw them, good steamers, albeit old ones already ...

[bessmertniy]

This is somehow incomprehensible: the Ukrainians will defend Danish democracy and independence at long distances with these minesweepers, and 102 million Eureks will be taken from them for this !? Well, they just collapsed from oak! With ukrai, such a bargain is unlikely to take place.

[Kerensky]

It is dangerous even to give to Ukraine. There the Americans presented their decommissioned aircraft and immediately received a question: "At whose expense will these aircraft go to Ukraine? For our pittance ?!"
Let's imagine that the Danes presented boats to Ukraine. Ukraine does not have a penny to pick them up. The boats stood for a year. In accordance with the IMP, the Danes can dismiss them on pins and needles. What will happen? And there will be a hi: "They cut OUR ships !!!".

[Antares]

Year of construction 1985. 3 ships for 102 euros in a mine configuration. Each of them is better equipped than today's Ukrainian ones. Moreover, the Danes followed them.
Torpedoes, mines, missiles (depending on configuration) are mine action and for work ... in general, a standard ship for this class. One of the configuration has anti-ship missiles. The Danes sold in a defensive form.
It is preferable, but more expensive than Iceland (there the delivery came out more expensive). This makes it easier to get to Odessa, where they will be equipped.

[rumpeljschtizhen]

I completely agree ... for modest money they will receive quite modern ships .... not older than many of ours .. with good integration and in good condition. (there’s a lot if only to joke)

[dgonni]

Read the wiki! (Fluvefisken type patrol boats were designed according to an innovative modular concept known as StanFlex. The unified hull has slots for installing standardized replaceable modules containing weapons and equipment. Quick change of weapons and equipment and replacement of combat information software system allows you to change the functions of the ship and its purpose.) We see! For? For (The following types of plug-in modules have been developed
76 mm artillery mount "OTO Melara";
Installation of the vertical launch of the Mk 48 mod 3 on 6 Sea Sparrow missiles;
Two quad launchers of anti-ship missile launcher "Harpoon" Block 1C
Two 533 mm torpedo tubes for torpedoes RRU613
Crane and control station for underwater vehicles;
The system of mine productions (with ammunition up to 60 minutes)) That bish. Boats from minesweepers easily turn into drums. I understand that 8 harpoons as be hinted at. And given the statements of Walker, duck is even more so. Understanding understood, the rest can continue to laugh.

[NF68]

For what pennies will Ukraine buy them and then support them? Even those rusty troughs that are still in the "Navy" of Ukraine not today, so tomorrow they will turn into pieces of scrap metal, and then they also want to buy 3 used troughs.

[dgonni]

For the trough post over yours! In fact, Ukraine will receive 3 universal ships that can perform different functions. They did not believe in the Javelins either. Well, to a handful of kurt, the walker made a statement on the modernization of the Air Force and Navy. so, with a high degree of probability, Ukraine will receive all the moorings for these ships.
P.S. By the way! The most expensive option is just in the form of a minesweeper! The shock version is cheaper! Therefore, we turn on the brain and try to understand the essence and dimensions of the emerging problem.

[NF68]

Quote: dgonni

For the trough post over yours! In fact, Ukraine will receive 3 universal ships that can perform different functions. They did not believe in the Javelins either. Well, to a handful of kurt, the walker made a statement on the modernization of the Air Force and Navy. so, with a high degree of probability, Ukraine will receive all the moorings for these ships.
P.S. By the way! The most expensive option is just in the form of a minesweeper! The shock version is cheaper! Therefore, we turn on the brain and try to understand the essence and dimensions of the emerging problem.

Ukraine at one time received a lot of things, 2 orders of magnitude more, when the USSR collapsed. What's the use? By the end of 2013, almost everything that could have been pr ..., pr ... rallies. After 2013 about .... there is not much that still somehow survived. No matter how you turn on or off the brain, everything was "for some reason" exactly like that, and not otherwise.

[dgonni]

Well, let's say this! Ukraine under the agreement on the division of soviet property received only part of the fleet! There are still no gold in the form of 80 tons! Is it about **? Well yes. But vaccination with Crimea and Donbas benefited. Instead of being a nightmare for the economy, Russia has taken the stupid path. I have a mustache.

[Roman Lisakovsky]

You exaggerate too much even if they are bought, which is almost unrealistic because Ukraine requires everything for nothing, then these only 3 mine ships will not pose a serious danger, they will not represent full-fledged influenza and will be destroyed without problems if something happens.

[dgonni]

We find moremana desirable from the Baltic and walked! We ask. We grow light and think! Nobody gave you the Olgin mind. I understand it. But who? You are sad to write stupid komenty on topics where no one really interests you!

[Roman Lisakovsky]

Don’t tell, it’s all the same that Russia would buy these 3 ships and say it’s kind of a problem with the US Navy now :)) This apparently from the same category did not add Stets to your mind.

[dgonni]

Really no mind! I did not drown for Ukraine! I just outlined the real problem that the Black Sea Fleet will have in the long run. Well, Olgins are paid for stupid posts.

[Roman Lisakovsky]

I see that the Stets bots are paid for such stupid stuffing as yours. The Ukrainian army is not a problem at all, it only saves that the USA supports it

[Reserve buildbat]

But I'm wondering how these "slop boats" from Denmark will end up in dill?

[Graz]

they will say pickup, as he likes and drag it))

[Graz]

so why didn’t they take the free ships from the Crimea?