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We have problems: Mr. General is eager to be willing to shoot ...

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So, the show of the day: General of the Russian Army, Commander of the Rosgvardia, Viktor Zolotov, is ready to shoot. And also to fight on the mat, beat the face in the ring and in general, Zolotov, as they say, for any outcome, just to Navalny accept the challenge.




Really, laughter through tears.

Let me explain why.

In principle, we have long been aware that President Putin has a huge shortage of personnel. Therefore, even the guards become governors (well, IO governors) and ministers. Including Mr. Zolotov, who is the commander-in-chief of the Rosguards. It is possible to equate to the minister. And Zinichev, the new Minister of Emergencies, is also from the security structures of our president, as it were ...

But today we are about Zolotov. Since there was a publication that Navalny really made the leadership of the Rosguard, we will continue.

Bulk - Rosgvardiya. 2: 0.

Let me remind you that the Foundation for the fight against corruption (FBK) Mr. Navalny unleashed history about overpricing procurement prices for Rosgvardiya and made from this not very beautiful conclusions. Namely, the meat factory “Friendship of Peoples”, which received an exclusive right to supply for the Russian Guard under the government’s decision, inflates procurement prices. And the former subordinate of General Zolotov owns this factory in internal troops (MVD).

In general, Zolotov began to react. But honestly, I would have said nothing better.

In your speech, you made insulting, slanderous fabrications against me! It is not customary in the officer corps to just forgive it. From time immemorial, a scoundrel was slapped in the face and challenged to a duel. Mr. Navalny, nobody bothers us to return at least some of those wonderful traditions. I mean satisfaction. I just challenge you to a fight. In the ring, on the mat - anywhere, where I promise to make you a good, juicy chop in a few minutes.

Mr. Navalny, please, do not upset me. If you start moving down from this satisfaction, then the label of a scoundrel and a coward, whom I already consider you, will stick a still gelatinous, jelly-like slug stain. And then no one wants to talk to you for sure ... If you once again allow an offensive or slanderous tone to me or my family in your incriminations, I promise you that before stepping over you and wiping your feet on you, I will arrange a show with a show for the entire staff of the Rosguards. And I assure you, then you will be ashamed to go outside. And I can keep the word.


Phew ... I would like to comment a little.

At once I will say that the broken mug of the provocateur Navalny is a good sight. But: who and how will beat, that’s the question.

Another question is if Navalny is not a fool, and he is not a fool, how many lawsuits can you file for such a fiery speech?

I emphasize that there are threats, insults and promises. And all this is performed not only by an official, but by a whole commander in chief in the rank of minister. Army General.

I understand this: Mr. Zolotov clearly demonstrates that he doesn’t care about the law both historically and in fact. I'll start with the story.

The duels, to which Navalny Zolotov is so zealously calling, were at all times not only condemned, but also punishable. That is, Zolotov calls for violation of the law. Old, but arranged for a new one. But - calls.

And historically speaking, there are a couple of words about the officers' honor codes. And about the officer environment.

Any, forgive, the officers' meeting would laugh as a herd of officer horses from such a statement. And not a single person from the officers' environment would have accepted the call. Any lieutenant would say: “Fi ... How is that possible!”

In the officer corps, Mr. Zolotov, in spite of the shoulder straps of the generals, would not be considered an officer and would not be allowed into the Assembly. For Rosgvardiya, released from the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which, in turn, became the successors of the Gendarme Corps.

The gendarmes, I'm sorry, never were considered officers. Under no king.

Gendarme, of course, was not forbidden to shoot with a civilian. But where is the officer’s way?

And then, I said that for a duel it was possible to get the arrest and the link. Examples in the history of the shaft. And now there is a court. The fairest court, so to speak. Which will obviously be considered now applications Navalny.

Why all this, frankly, I do not understand. Yes, the audience appreciated, the audience in "YouTube" in full delight.

But personally, I - no. When a person who behaves in such sweet dreams as a general of gendarmerie of tsarist Russia behaves this way - do not wait. Moreover, when he wakes up, this man gives orders to the Rosguards. It is a real power element in the country.

But the idea with a duel "went."

Mr Peskov, presidential spokesman Vladimir V. Putin, unexpectedly joined Zolotov.

“Sometimes unscrupulous slander, which is nothing more than a violation of existing legislation, can be fought by any means. Of course, it’s better to stop it in the bud. ”

And I, fool, thought that we have laws for this ... The Prosecutor's Office ... The Court ... And as for Peskov and Zolotov, it turns out ...

But if the spokesman himself says that it is possible “by any means”, then it is possible. The question is, probably, to whom. And as far as any?

In general, as for me, the gentlemen played a little bit in “that Russia”. Not even slightly, but very played. It's too early, to be honest.

The second part of the questions. Interestingly, what did Mr. Zolotov do for almost three weeks since the release of the Bulk commercials? Preparing hard for the dispersal of protest rallies on election day?

Probably.

And, by the way, there are many complaints about the actions of the Rosguards on this day. Yes, there were unauthorized meetings. But there were also permitted ones, and there were also those who began to be canceled urgently under the first pretexts, from breaking the pipe to the most urgent reconstruction of the Field of Mars that began in the night in St. Petersburg.

St. Petersburg journalists (and not only journalists, there were deputies there) say that they blizzard everyone equally. The same thing happened in Yekaterinburg.

Unjustified cruelty. And Mr. General want to shoot ...

You know, but quite naturally all this. And batons, and kicks, and detentions for nothing. The French have a good proverb: "What is the lord, so is the servant."

When a high-ranking law enforcement officer of the Russian Federation declares for a reason, and on the website of the Rosguards, about his intention to resolve the dispute illegally, what can we expect from such a minister in general?

Do we have a duel as a method of resolving a dispute resolved? It seems not. Moreover, it is outlawed.

Accordingly, the obviously commander-in-chief of the Rosguards is not at all aware of the laws that he must defend, so what?

Good professional, right?

Apparently, we still have a lot of interesting surprises from the team of our president. And this confirms that we have problems with personnel in the higher echelons of power. Very big problems. And they will primarily affect us.
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  1. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 12 September 2018 05: 27
    +63
    Putin's tame dog said "woof" ... So really soon those who dig deep will start shooting. am
    1. 210ox
      210ox 12 September 2018 06: 24
      +1
      Both populists are still those .... Let the two clowns converge on Red Square. It will run into the people like the previous May Day demonstrations ..
      1. Russia
        Russia 12 September 2018 06: 27
        -1
        Another security certificate for Navalny, and no one canceled the brick from the roof.
        1. Karislav
          Karislav 12 September 2018 09: 35
          -3
          Nemtsov was also told ... there is no security certificate. they are already out of reality
          )!
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 12 September 2018 06: 40
        +86
        Quote: 210ox
        Let the two clowns converge on Red Square

        We, in principle, have long been aware that President Putin has a huge staff shortage

        Why do we learn only bad things from the "West"? How many laughed at the statements of the American-European, the grief of the warriors and politicians. And then trouble came from where they did not expect, a whole "general of the army and commander of the Rosgvardia" did so loudly
        1. Titsen
          Titsen 12 September 2018 06: 58
          +27
          And the most important thing in all this - our sovereigns don't give a damn about the people - they shove everything!
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 12 September 2018 07: 26
          +102
          Quote: Chertt
          a whole "general of the army and commander of the Rosgvardia" was so loud

          Right It would be better to be silent! I’m not watching Navalny’s commercials, and I’m not interested in them, but I found out about the story of overpriced food prices and theft in the Russian Guard only from the general’s halfwit.
          After all, everything was quiet. Well, he released Bulk movie three weeks ago, and silence. But what resonance Zolotov’s movie caused, where he showed what methods he used to act.

          Now the whole country has watched Navalny’s video, and the issue of procurement has been raised to a higher level! And still everyone found out that a man called to command an entire army (Rosguard) of 340 thousand bayonets, and to be a defender, not only was involved in theft, it also threatens any reprisals who doubt his honesty.

          Also, Putin’s secretary fit into this matter !! This is really bad. I confirmed that everything is correct and legal. It seems there is at the top - one gang of watering can! And the methods of solving problems they have are criminal ... And why not be afraid, you don’t have to answer, they have mutual responsibility, for each other's wall.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 12 September 2018 08: 45
            -2
            Now, even in the west, a wave will be raised: since they threatened to beat up the opposition, the Kremlin just poisoned Skripal's defector! Well, there’s no democracy there! The one who advised Zolotov to do this is either not very smart or an outspoken enemy. Well, I generally said nothing about Peskov, and he would have been better off too!
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 12 September 2018 09: 29
            -30
            Quote: Stas157
            And they all learned that a man called to command an entire army (Rosguard) of 340 thousand bayonets, and to be a defender, not only was involved in theft,.

            Not like that: its only accused in theft, and he- accused the applicant of lies. Has the right to! Does he need to be silent?
            Who is telling the truth is still unknown. Bulk, for example, has already lied a lot (the court established, if that)
            Quote: Stas157
            it also threatens any reprisals who doubt its honesty.

            Вызов "on the ring, on the tatami"is .... a threat of reprisal? What is she doing? belay

            author -In the officer community, Mr. Zolotov, in spite of the general uniform, would not be considered an officer and would not be allowed into the Assembly. For the Russian Guard, who left the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which, in turn, became successors Gendarme corps.

            The gendarmes, I'm sorry, never were considered officers. Under no king.

            Gendarmes Corps - a separate special purpose building Russian imperial army
            , i.e. was part of it. And there were officers in the army.



            Gendarmes Corps. Headquarters-the officer in full dress Chief Officer in a frock coat and a non-commissioned officer in full dress and ordinary uniform.

            Unjustified cruelty.

            Are there really few examples of Rigidity on the Maidan in the neighboring Ruin? request
            1. invisibility
              invisibility 12 September 2018 09: 57
              +54
              Olgovich, have you completely lost your mind? And if your person is threatened and wants to make a chop of you, and even in front of all the people? What country do you live in, a fighter against communism and a "great" democrat?
              And about the officers ... Ask any MO officer how he related to the cops. And I do not say that it is right. Just find out how it was.
              You should drink a vitamin ...
              1. Opera
                Opera 12 September 2018 10: 29
                +8
                Dmitry, are you an officer of the Moscow Region ?! Here I am an officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and I have many friends in both the Moscow Region and the FSB. I have been friends with some since childhood, I met some in the process of joint events. Of course, I had to meet people operating with such expressions as garbage, boots, cops ... Yesterday, here, one comrade tried to tell us that FSO employees are taught to old women to tear ... Of course, there are eccentrics! There are generally clinical cases. Do you think these creatures need to be guided ?! It's me that you speak for yourself. What kind of fashion is it to appropriate the right to speak on behalf of some groups of people ?!
                1. invisibility
                  invisibility 12 September 2018 11: 44
                  +11
                  Hello, hello! I'm in stock, MO. Notice those that I wrote - THIS is not right. I also met not quite healthy people, both in the Ministry of Defense and in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. I apologize, I was somewhat frivolous with words and did not open the whole question. And the question, by and large, was about the attitude of officers of the tsarist army to the gendarme corps. Once again, sorry.
                  1. saigon
                    saigon 12 September 2018 15: 50
                    +9
                    Dmitry, what do the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the gendarmerie have in common? The Ministry of Internal Affairs is, however, an analogue of the police of the Republic of Ingushetia, the gendarmerie is not the police, and not even the BB.
                    Read the circle of tasks of the gendarme corps and you will be very surprised (from helping orphans to tracing wives, and political investigation was not among the priorities.)
                    Well, a little about the personality of the founder of this gloomy institution (gendarmes corps)
                    General Benckendorf is a hero of the war of 1812.
                  2. Prosha
                    Prosha 16 September 2018 15: 49
                    +2
                    The gendarmes, I'm sorry, never were considered officers. Under no king.

                    This is utter nonsense, everywhere in the Moscow Region and in the gendarmerie different people happened, for the most part decent people and brilliant officers, well, in truth, scoundrels did happen! However, as now, people do not change over time.
                2. Mcsim78
                  Mcsim78 12 September 2018 13: 14
                  +10
                  What are you talking about? What are the clinical cases? All law enforcement agencies are completely discredited. And just decent people are rare there. And this nerd proves it.
                  1. cradle
                    cradle 13 September 2018 12: 55
                    +3
                    it’s not necessary to smear everyone with the example of one .... people are different everywhere. That's why they are people. These are only the same times.
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                  2. hohkn
                    hohkn 14 September 2018 12: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: McSim78
                    All law enforcement agencies are completely discredited. And just decent people are rare there. And this nerd proves it.

                    This nerd just does not prove anything. Listen somehow at your leisure what they say among themselves in the Rosguard. And about decent people ... they are everywhere, oddly enough, the majority. Shit is everywhere, but some love to dig into it.
                3. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 13 September 2018 04: 59
                  +13
                  Quote: Oper
                  Here I am an officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and I have many friends in both the Moscow Region and the FSB.

                  Are you so naive from birth or have you been raised this way? belay If she attach epaulettes to a cow, will she also become an officer? Here:

                  -the officer. I can also name many who wore and are wearing epaulets with a well-deserved honor. I can not classify it with them:

                  There are also officers - VVZh, VVP and many others like Zolotov and various advisors like Khinshtein. Foaming at the mouth, they prove their worth. Do you know which thought comes first? All this arrogance and arrogance towards ordinary, ordinary citizens due to the fact that they simply lived and worked, while this elite bent over in the spine and licked inaccessible places. Apparently, the criteria for getting into the "high society" are just that. You are especially amazed at the various coincidences described by the late Alexander Sergeevich Griboyedov:
                  With me, strangers are very rare;
                  More and more sisters, sister-in-law of the child;
                  One Molchalin is not mine,
                  And then that business.

                  Who is this Zolotov? Own or business? Navalny may be a big liar. But, in order to justify the inflated prices, it is enough to indicate the real ones. But here one desire is not enough, and it is also required to convince several million citizens that this is the most optimal price for these products. And also, when you start comparing the incomes of some civilians and "not quite" with the possession of property, the mind goes to waste - people know how to eat bread and water ... belay It is clear that even among like-minded people, for example, Natalia Poklonskaya's speeches about the disclosure of information about incomes and their discrepancy with the declared ones arouses "righteous anger."
                  1. Li17
                    Li17 13 September 2018 07: 06
                    +13
                    An officer is not an officer! Colleagues, there is a service and there are official duties and the essence of all honor is to fulfill them honestly! And with dignity! And it doesn't matter if you are a chief of finance or a company commander, in the military, in the police or in the armed forces. Well, do not forget that your stupidity, bad manners, ignorance ..... there is just your appearance in public. I remember how the NSh regiment in a drunken state screamed that you shouldn't drink (familiar to many) in front of the formation. By the way, this applies to everyone according to the laws of God. And in our country, besides the fact that the mummers are divorced, nobody canceled the percentage of fools (and in the army they are arranged interestingly), instead of men (we are dying out!) Women with their hysterical approach and signboard, so professionalism will be replaced by a thugs contingent - Serdyukov and Co.! Well, our "hero" is perhaps not a woman in the medical book, but in the subject. I've seen a lot of these in uniform!
                4. Lucy
                  Lucy 14 September 2018 22: 41
                  0
                  Quote: RUSS
                  fought?
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 12 September 2018 11: 12
                -22
                Quote: invisible
                +7
                Olgovich, did you completely go off the roof?

                you have absolutely belay ? WHERE is the threat in calling on the tatami?
                Quote: invisible
                And about the officers ... Ask any MO officer how he related to the cops.

                Regarding officers, you are given information about the gendarme corps. as PARTS OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY, where they did not do without officers.
                1. invisibility
                  invisibility 12 September 2018 11: 47
                  +23
                  quote = Olgovich] WHERE is the threat in calling on the tatami? [/ quote]
                  You are a demagogue. Even in sports there are weight categories.
                  Well, about the chop and about shooting, you preferred not to notice ..
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 13 September 2018 10: 18
                    -7
                    Quote: invisible
                    You are a demagogue. Even in sports there are weight categories.

                    Chatter empty gone request ...
                    Quote: invisible
                    but about the chop and about shooting, you preferred not to notice ..
                    No one bothers to Navalny to make a chop too and is even invited to go out and try.
                    About shooting, show where Sokolov has it in a statement, and not lie
                2. naidas
                  naidas 12 September 2018 12: 44
                  0
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Regarding officers, you are given information about the gendarme corps. AS PARTS OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY

                  Of course, as officers of special departments at the SA.
              3. Serge Gorely
                Serge Gorely 12 September 2018 11: 42
                +4
                Quote: invisible
                Olgovich, have you completely lost your mind? And if your person is threatened and wants to make a chop of you, and even in front of all the people? What country do you live in, a fighter against communism and a "great" democrat?
                And about the officers ... Ask any MO officer how he related to the cops. And I do not say that it is right. Just find out how it was.
                You should drink a vitamin ...

                Not entirely true. Rosgvardia is the heiress of BB. That in the USSR, that in Russia they were in the status of a serviceman, in contrast to the militia / police, where the SPETS ranks., Just subordination to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. By the way, BB's favorite saying ("vovanov") is "cops are not kents for us."
              4. RUSS
                RUSS 12 September 2018 16: 53
                +7
                Quote: invisible
                Ask any MO officer how he felt about the cops.

                Even to those who died in the Caucasus, in particular in Chechnya, for example, how do you feel about the riot police who fought?
                After all, they are also cops.
                1. William Joseph Blazkowicz
                  William Joseph Blazkowicz 12 September 2018 17: 56
                  -1
                  Riot police carried out including and oversight functions to protect public order in the territory of the military garrisons of the UGV (S). Do you think the attitude of the military towards such warders is ideal, right?
                  1. hohkn
                    hohkn 14 September 2018 12: 14
                    +6
                    Quote: William Joseph Blazkowicz
                    Riot police carried out including and oversight functions to protect public order in the territory of the military garrisons of the UGV (S).

                    Are you serious about this? There was nothing else for the riot police to do? If in the same Khankala there was some kind of "court" detachment, then he certainly was not engaged in establishing order within the garrison. There were plenty of other sheep.
                  2. sunzhenets
                    sunzhenets 16 September 2018 11: 50
                    +4
                    Quote: William Joseph Blazkowicz
                    William Joseph Blazkowicz (William Joseph Blazkowicz) September 12, 2018 17:56 p.m.
                    Riot police carried out including and oversight functions to protect public order in the territory of the military garrisons of the UGV (S) ...

                    1) What are "supervisory functions"? If you meant supervisory, then the prosecutor's office is engaged in this, not the OMON.
                    2) On the territory of the military garrisons of the OGV (S) there were curfew companies, which were engaged in military personnel who entangled the coast. The commandant companies had no relation to riot police and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
              5. garrett
                garrett 13 September 2018 16: 11
                +4
                Ask any MO officer how he related to the cops (s)
                um ... well, illuminate me, oh Vshnik, how do you feel about us
              6. hohkn
                hohkn 14 September 2018 12: 03
                +4
                Quote: invisible
                Ask any MO officer how he felt about the cops.

                Let it be known to you, dear, that the rather small Corps of Gendarmes carried out the internal security of the Russian Empire. And its staffs were staffed exclusively by people from the army. Read on this topic the work of the historian V.M. "Officers and the Corps of Gendarmes of the Russian Empire".
              7. Khabir
                Khabir 17 September 2018 10: 31
                0
                Dear invisible person! Only the illiterate officers of the Ministry of Defense considered the officers of the Internal Troops to be "cops", as you say so. All the educated officers of the Ministry of Defense knew (they were taught this in the higher educational institutions) that the officers of the Interior Ministry's Interior Ministry and the KGB Military District had military ranks (as opposed to those whom you deigned to call "cops" and wore special titles), and therefore were equal in rights and duties !!!
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 12 September 2018 10: 48
              +35
              Quote: Olgovich

              Вызов "on the ring, on the tatami"is .... a threat of reprisal? What is she doing? belay

              Olgovich, and you were in the ring, you know what a direct blow from a master of sports is, a knockout, why suddenly even experienced athletes have a shock of fear? Do you think such a professional as Putin’s bodyguard is not responsible for the words, and he won’t be able to make a chop out of any ?!

              And what if this is not a threat when a man in his uniform officially says that he will make a chop out of you, and even to dispel doubts, he adds that he knows how to keep his word? What is it? Is that a joke? ... General throughout the country deigned to joke! So it was not drunk! But he himself is very strict about jokes, he claimed that it was necessary to answer for the bazaar.
              It can be seen with the naked eye that the general is not at all joking about how nervous he was with his fingering hands.

              And if Navalny suddenly agrees, and offers the toughest option (not in the ring), then this will be the number! How the general will get out of this is not at all clear, but fun for the whole country (and not only!) Is provided. The offended head of the Rosguard shoots with a blogger to prove his innocence!
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 12 September 2018 13: 07
                -2
                Quote: Stas157
                Olgovich, and you were in the ring, you know what a direct blow from a master of sports is, a knockout, why suddenly even experienced athletes have a shock of fear? Do you think such a professional as Putin’s bodyguard is not responsible for the words, and he won’t be able to make a chop out of any ?!

                Not Olgovich, but I note that Zolotov is 54 years old, and the bulk seems to be 77 or so. Navalny here may not be afraid at all, he only needs to choose a place and type of martial art. You can, for example, a historical medieval battle. And what, the general must get tired faster under a pile of iron. Yes, even if boxing, take six months to prepare and, given the age difference, the bulk has good chances ...
                1. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 12 September 2018 14: 00
                  +10
                  I also think that it would be nice if Navalny piled on this bad general, who would be attached to any power, if only to have a fat.
                  1. cradle
                    cradle 13 September 2018 13: 51
                    +2
                    here Lyosha's support group looms ... a circus!
              2. You Vlad
                You Vlad 12 September 2018 14: 53
                -13
                Quote: Stas157
                The offended head of the Rossguard shoots with a blogger to prove his innocence!

                How many fantasies you have. I understand who has little or no conscience, can argue how you are (it’s disgusting to read you)! This is a personal insult and the person answered him, the move is behind your whiner.
                1. FANTOM-72
                  FANTOM-72 12 September 2018 15: 49
                  -16
                  Do not flog bisser. Here, somehow abruptly all were overwhelmed with bulkers and other offended.
            3. victor50
              victor50 12 September 2018 11: 46
              +6
              Quote: Olgovich
              The call "to the ring, to the tatami" is .... a threat of reprisals? What is it?

              With a claim to correctness, you parse the opponent's text, and are engaged in elementary pulling out of the necessary phrases that fit the scheme you have built. And what about this "where I promise to make a good, juicy chop out of you in a few minutes." + a little softer, not to murder, smile in the same place? Or it doesn’t matter at what price the desired is achieved ?! wink
            4. Ivan58
              Ivan58 12 September 2018 16: 18
              +2
              However, sir, when the officer was transferred to the Gendarme Corps, he lost his Honor. If this tells you something.
              1. Vovanya
                Vovanya 13 September 2018 14: 34
                +2
                Somewhere in 1978 (?) There was a reduction and I was offered the choice of moving to BB or PV. I refused, citing the presence of certain ideas about honor, which surprised the general from the commission very much. By the way, I do not regret that I did so.
              2. Victorio
                Victorio 14 September 2018 22: 39
                +1
                Quote: Ivan58
                However, sir, when the officer was transferred to the Gendarme Corps, he lost his Honor. If this tells you something.

                ====
                give a link or is it your speculation ?!
              3. Victorio
                Victorio 14 September 2018 23: 15
                +4
                Code of Honor Officer of the Russian Empire

                Do not promise if you are not sure that you will fulfill the promise.
                Keep yourself simple, with dignity, without fatovstvo.
                It is necessary to remember that border, where politeness ends in dignity and cult begins.
                Less tell - you will regret.
                Remember: my tongue is my enemy!
                Do not kutis - hardness you will not prove, and you will compromise yourself.
                Do not rush to converge on a short leg with a man who has not learned enough.
                Avoid cash accounts with mates. Money always spoils the relationship.
                Do not take into your account offensive remarks, witticisms, ridicule, said after what often happens on the streets and in public places. Be above it. Go away - do not lose, and get rid of the scandal.
                If you cannot say anything good about someone, then refrain from saying bad, if you know.
                Do not neglect anyone's advice - listen. Really, follow him or not, will remain for you. Manage to use the good advice of another - this art is no less than giving good advice to yourself.
                Take care of the reputation of trusting you women, whoever she is.
                There are situations in life when you need to silence your heart and live with the mind.
                The secret that you have communicated to at least one person ceases to be a secret.
                Always be alert and do not dissolve.
                Try to have your words mild in a dispute, and the arguments are hard. Try not to annoy the enemy, but to convince him.
                Speaking, avoid gestures and do not raise your voice.
                Nothing teaches as the awareness of their mistakes. This is one of the main means of self-education. Only the one who does nothing is not mistaken.
                When two people quarrel, both are always to blame.
                Authority is acquired by knowledge and service.
                It is important that subordinates respect you, not fear.
                Where there is fear, there is no love, but there is a secret ill will or hatred.
                There is nothing worse than indecision.
                Better worse than hesitation or inaction.
                Lost time you will not return.
                The best part of courage is caution.
                The strongest misconceptions are those that have no doubt.
                A humble man is not one who is indifferent to praises, but one who is attentive to blame.
                Thinking correctly is more valuable than knowing a lot.

                Ivan58 (Kaslanov Ivan), and what, of the above, did the officer lose when he became a gendarme officer?
            5. SERGUS
              SERGUS 12 September 2018 16: 28
              +9
              Quote: Olgovich
              The call "to the ring, to the tatami" is .... a threat of reprisals? What is it?

              There is no threat in the call to the ring, but there is
              If in your incriminations you once again allow an insulting or slanderous tone against me or my family, I promise you that before I step over and wipe my feet about you, I will arrange a show with the entire personnel of the Russian Guard. And I assure you, then you will be ashamed to go out. And I can keep the word
            6. user
              user 14 September 2018 13: 18
              +1
              Gendarmes Corps - a separate special-purpose corps of the Russian Imperial Army
              , i.e. was part of it. And there were officers in the army.


              Do you want us to be like in the old Russian army? Well then, there is nothing to be offended by the fact that in that Russian army the gendarmes were not allowed into the officer assembly. Nobody then suggested that the next generation would not like this situation. As for the officer’s honor, you wouldn’t give any reason or at least wait for the results of the investigation, after which you would express your anger.
              In the end, he is simply the personal guard of the president, and is trying to look holier than the pope. Well now they’ve made a structure for him, but he needs a boyar to feed on something and he decided that he was above the law. Well, this is my personal opinion, which does not justify his ugly behavior, in the end he is nobody for the majority of the population and nobody knows how to call him, as for the servicemen of the Russian Guard, they did not force them there by force. If they are there then it means they are happy with everything, including this state of affairs.
          3. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 12 September 2018 09: 58
            +34
            If Navalny were to be attracted for false information, then politicians should be attracted for failure to fulfill election promises. It turns out that they are tricking.
            1. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum 12 September 2018 12: 06
              +24

              A character with a rich history. I even managed to stand with Yeltsin at the barricades ...

              PS And, here is an interesting article in the context of the topic:
              https://medialeaks.ru/1109xsh-zolotov-na-foto/
              titled "Putin, Yeltsin and a thief in law. How the head of the Russian Guard Viktor Zolotov got in the photo with such different people."
          4. kapitan92
            kapitan92 12 September 2018 10: 13
            +26
            Quote: Stas157
            It seems there is at the top - one gang of watering can! And the methods of solving problems they have are criminal ... And why not be afraid, you don’t have to answer, they have mutual responsibility, for each other's wall.

            The state ship is the only one that gives a leak at the top.

            - James Reston
          5. Note 2
            Note 2 12 September 2018 10: 39
            +30
            Dear friend, why only at the top? You can find such wretched figures as a general around as much as you want. This applies to any structure, even an army, even a civil service. These people live in their own little world where no one contradicts them, hence the permissiveness. Look at the haughty face of this "figure "In my opinion, everything is written on it. Although I do not sympathize with Leha, I periodically need to shake up this snickering swamp, which he does.
          6. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 12 September 2018 22: 26
            +1
            Indeed, the concept of "Rosgvardia" is beginning to be associated with the concept of "Vologda convoy".
          7. Alber
            Alber 13 September 2018 23: 53
            +2
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Chertt
            a whole "general of the army and commander of the Rosgvardia" was so loud

            Right It would be better to be silent! I’m not watching Navalny’s commercials, and I’m not interested in them, but I found out about the story of overpriced food prices and theft in the Russian Guard only from the general’s halfwit.
            After all, everything was quiet. Well, he released Bulk movie three weeks ago, and silence. But what resonance Zolotov’s movie caused, where he showed what methods he used to act.

            Now the whole country has watched Navalny’s video, and the issue of procurement has been raised to a higher level! And still everyone found out that a man called to command an entire army (Rosguard) of 340 thousand bayonets, and to be a defender, not only was involved in theft, it also threatens any reprisals who doubt his honesty.

            Also, Putin’s secretary fit into this matter !! This is really bad. I confirmed that everything is correct and legal. It seems there is at the top - one gang of watering can! And the methods of solving problems they have are criminal ... And why not be afraid, you don’t have to answer, they have mutual responsibility, for each other's wall.

            I look at the eyes of General Zolotarev and they remind someone of me. the eyes of our esteemed president! Incidentally, they are not relatives with him?
          8. Severok
            Severok 15 September 2018 21: 04
            +1
            The roof does not just flow at the top of Russia, it goes! Rides with hypersonic speed in the direction not to psychiatrists, unfortunately, but to the strangulation of all the dissident and truth-loving (regardless of who expresses this truth and how).
        3. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 12 September 2018 13: 35
          +12
          It’s best for the general to write a report about leaving, as if Putin had not persuaded him!
          1. cradle
            cradle 13 September 2018 13: 54
            +2
            it will be face conservation
          2. user
            user 14 September 2018 14: 55
            +7
            It’s best for the general to write a report about leaving, as if Putin had not persuaded him!


            Do you really believe that there are decent people there?
          3. Severok
            Severok 15 September 2018 21: 10
            +3
            Why are you, he will never leave the trough! Not that face!
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 12 September 2018 09: 55
        -5
        Quote: 210ox
        Let the two clowns converge on Red Square

        I put on Zolotov.
        1. pormezan
          pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 14
          +28
          Thin banter. I will also put on Zolotov. As a clown he is stronger.
      4. Dashout
        Dashout 12 September 2018 10: 18
        -11
        Quote: 210ox
        Both populists are still those .... Let the two clowns converge on Red Square.

        Dmitry, why and why is Zolotov a clown? Why are you comparing him with Navalny?
        1. victor50
          victor50 12 September 2018 11: 50
          +31
          Quote: Dashout
          Why are you comparing him with Navalny?

          In my opinion, he equated himself to him.
      5. Tavrik
        Tavrik 12 September 2018 13: 07
        +3
        Better if on the first channel live.
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 12 September 2018 07: 06
      -20
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      those who dig deep will begin to shoot soon.

      So far, Putin himself (the power) is digging and planting, but, unfortunately not in full. pro-Western talkers do not care at all for the people, but for themselves.
      Gene. Zolotov is, perhaps, a sensible leader of the Guard, but, as the leader of the world proletariat used to say in relation to AI Denikin, "a political baby." request
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 12 September 2018 09: 24
        +42
        Quote: Alekseev
        Gene. Zolotov, perhaps, an intelligent leader of the guard

        Perhaps he is a good guard ... but a general who does not know the law ... is just a chaos who sets a bad example for his subordinates.
        Quote: Alekseev
        "political baby"

        Rosgvardeets should not engage in politics. For him, there is only one rule - the imperative requirements of the law. Those. what is not expressly permitted is prohibited. And all his actions should be only for the achievement of constitutionally significant goals.
        Putin is constantly swinging away from a dispute with the opposition, citing the lack of such a construct. Tell people, where is General Zolotov’s constructive ?!
        1. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 12 September 2018 10: 22
          +21
          Tibidoch. You are confused, from the time of Roman law, which is the basis for further, the definition sounds: What is not forbidden is allowed. Your reinterpretation is suitable for the inhabitants of the prison cell ... Zolotov was appointed general, without growth in service and foundations. such generals are already becoming the norm in the Russian Federation, essentially being political henchmen with epaulets for importance ... An example from the emperors of Russia, they never assigned ranks for no reason and themselves carried modest honored ranks, although they commanded everything in the Empire ...
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 10: 36
            +9
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            You are confused, from the time of Roman law, which is the basis for further, the definition sounds: What is not forbidden is allowed.

            I didn’t confuse anything. I did not quote the definition of Roman law, but briefly disclosed the meaning of the imperative method of legal regulation of law enforcement agencies inherent in the Romano-German legal family, to which we belong.
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            Your renegotiation is suitable for prison dwellers ...

            So what?! Do you think it will somehow offend me? laughing Duel on emoticons! am
          2. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 13
            +9
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            What is not prohibited is permitted.

            Just now I noticed. You give a dispositive method of right regulation - permissible.
            And I brought the imperative - prohibitive. Read your expression and mine and feel the difference!
            So what about the renegotiation of Roman law, it’s you by.
            So, both imperative and dispositive methods work for citizens.
            And for the general only imperative!

            Learn materiel, Dear!
            1. Vladimir 5
              Vladimir 5 12 September 2018 16: 24
              -3
              There is a Law (as I mentioned from Roman), that is, the legality determined by accumulated experience, but there are legal definitions denoted Lawlessness, which you represent under the name of Imperative ... on one shelf). Of course, whoever pushes the laws of Lawlessness (Imperative) in the relationship between society and the state, there will be no admission of legality and freedoms, actions are only permissive, that is, "you can only breathe with permission" ... Such laws, or rather lawlessness, are imposed by those who have strength and, as a rule, they are in the minority, and naturally, they need them and are beneficial ..
              1. Tibidokh
                Tibidokh 12 September 2018 16: 57
                +4
                Quote: Vladimir 5
                Powerlessness

                Call the imperative method of legal regulation lawlessness ... belay
                I will give you an example of the imperative method - everything that is not expressly permitted is prohibited.
                The executive bodies of state power, in particular, the Russian Guard, are not allowed by law to call disagreeing with their activities in a duel = FORBIDDEN. That is, although in the Codes, Federal Laws and other normative legal acts there is not a single word about dueling, any law enforcer knows: a duel is illegal, because the law does not imply the existence of a state of law.
                This is a simple and illustrative example of the importance of stabilized and streamlined (rather than casual) methods of legal regulation - imperative and dispositive.
                This is a guarantee of the absence of arbitrariness and chaos in the state and society.
                1. Vladimir 5
                  Vladimir 5 12 September 2018 19: 37
                  -2
                  You do not understand the depth of this thesis: what is not allowed is forbidden, because the vast majority of natural situations of relationships and needs for actions cannot be foreseen and laid down in permits, which means they are forbidden ... Even completely justified and necessary actions, if not listed in allowed, forbidden, etc.: ... In the only version, this is justified and necessary, this is the behavior of robots and robotics, it is already justified there, any step away from the program of action is prohibited .......
                  1. Tibidokh
                    Tibidokh 13 September 2018 05: 45
                    +4
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    You do not understand the depth of this thesis:

                    And the examination board decided that I understand a solid 4-ku. I had this question on the state.
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    the vast majority of natural situations

                    You do not take away from the subjects of our dispute.
                    So 1st item:
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    You are confused, from the time of Roman law, which is the basis for further, the definition sounds: What is not forbidden is allowed.

                    I initially cited a prohibitive method, specifically regarding General Zolotov. You, trying to convict me of ignorance of Roman law, brought a permissive method that applies to civilians, but not to the general. So what did I confuse ?!
                    2nd subject of dispute:
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    Laws of Lawlessness (Imperative)

                    I challenged your claim (to which you naturally have a right, which is a demonstration of your legal awareness) that imperative = lawlessness. He pointed out that in a legal state both methods of legal regulation are important. He gave a concrete example. So what depth do you think I do not understand?
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    In the only version, this is justified and necessary, this is the behavior of robots and robotics

                    Well, I don’t offer the whole society to regulate relations only by the imperative method, I wrote above:
                    Quote: Tibidokh
                    So, both imperative and dispositive methods work for citizens.
                    And for the general only imperative!

                    Well, about robots, of course, you're right. hi Let Skynet live only by algorithms.
          3. saigon
            saigon 13 September 2018 16: 27
            +3
            Under the Empress of our Republic, Elizaveta, it was a funny practice to record newborns in the guard, and especially advanced and close people did this number BEFORE the baby was born. And since there was no ultrasound and the gender of the child did not know beforehand, there were incidents.
            So nothing is new under the moon.
        2. Alekseev
          Alekseev 12 September 2018 15: 46
          +1
          Quote: Tibidokh
          Rosgvardeets should not engage in politics.

          Should not be engaged, but to understand in politics, in political struggle, not to mention knowledge of laws, he is obliged. After all, only full .... believes that Navalny’s goal is the fight against corruption ... As a means of drawing attention to his person, as a means of discrediting power - yes, finding an episode about corruption is, at worst, not difficult.
          By the way, the same Denikin strongly regretted that officers were not taught to understand the politics of the tsarist army: “The lack of awareness of political trends and especially social issues of the Russian officers affected already in the days of the first revolution and the transition of the country to a representative system. the majority of the officers turned out to be unarmed and helpless in the face of unrestrained revolutionary propaganda, saving even in front of the soldiers' semi-intelligentsia, trained in the revolutionary underground. "
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 17: 04
            +6
            Quote: Alekseev
            understand politics, political struggle

            The head of the Rosguard should ignore any political preferences, so as not to create a conflict of interest. It should be equivalent to all citizens of the country, regardless of their political views.
            Thus, the head of the Russian Guard can have any political preferences, but he must keep them with him, and not call his opponent an opposition dog (although Navalny deserves this).
            1. atalef
              atalef 12 September 2018 17: 34
              +8
              Quote: Tibidokh
              The head of the Rosguard should ignore any political preferences, so as not to create a conflict of interest.

        3. Pivasik
          Pivasik 12 September 2018 20: 51
          +3
          I agree. Statement by the army general, at least ... strange fool
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    3. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 12 September 2018 08: 53
      +55
      His honor has spoken two resignations. Being an example for law enforcement agencies, he urges to understand not in court, but as a kid. In addition, it has the status of a soldier. The federal law "on the status of servicemen" categorically PROHIBITS to engage in business. And how did the brother in stripes manage to make a career and become a big businessman?
      1. vatov
        vatov 12 September 2018 12: 29
        +5
        He is not a businessman, he has a wife and children are businessmen ......
        1. garrett
          garrett 13 September 2018 17: 06
          +4
          Quote: vatov
          He is not a businessman, he has a wife and children are businessmen ......

          it's irony?
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 12 September 2018 15: 52
        +12
        "How did the brother in stripes manage to make a career and become a big businessman?" ////
        ----
        Brother made money back in the dashing 90s. Was a "foreman" in the Tambov PG. Who worked in St. Petersburg, not in Tambov.
        1. cradle
          cradle 13 September 2018 14: 11
          -4
          Oh, they don’t know the favorites! You can’t hide anything from them! Threw on a fan? KGBshnik in organized crime groups? Cho smoke? It can in the God-chosen country SO (so that the specialists work for the lesson) accepted, we do not.
    4. Dashout
      Dashout 12 September 2018 10: 16
      -38
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Putin's tame dog said "woof" ... So really soon those who dig deep will start shooting. am

      Skomorokhov confirmed his appointment on the VO website: the article is purely provocative, one might even say "grant-eating"!
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 12 September 2018 11: 50
        +32
        Quote: Dashout

        Skomorokhov confirmed his appointment on the VO website: the article is purely provocative, one might even say "grant-eating"!

        He is not obliged to confirm anything to you, and you violate the rules of the site discussing and dirtying the author.

        The article is excellent, for the malice of the day. This current event will clearly pass by the official media! Or there will be some kind of ridiculous excuses for the general’s outrageous (criminal!) Trick in the Peskov style - they say, this is the very case when direct threats from the security officer to the ordinary citizen are justified and possible!

        This means complete lawlessness and insecurity of ordinary people from the arbitrariness of officials denounced by the authorities.
      2. AA17
        AA17 12 September 2018 13: 17
        +12
        Dear, Dashout (Evgeny Savelievich). It is not clear what the provocative nature of the article is. The article describes the fact of being challenged to a duel. The stupidity of this act is obvious, don't you see? If we refer to historical realities, then duels could only take place between citizens belonging to a certain class. After this official call, a lot of questions arise. And whether, in the future, a citizen who owns martial arts techniques, in the event of a loss in a loan, will be able to challenge a citizen to whom he lost a lawsuit. Can the citizens of the country, offended by the bureaucratic officials and not having found control over them in the highest instances, challenge them to duels with the right to choose weapons? Who will be the second? How to evaluate the victory of one side and the defeat of the other? How will the fight be conducted: until "first blood" or "until the end"? This is completely absurd.
        P.S. In this case, you just need to sue Navalny if there are facts of slander.
        1. Li17
          Li17 12 September 2018 21: 46
          +1
          all right. And the main fact, an official of this rank is obliged to be an official of this rank, and not fall to the level of a communal resident after being taken on his chest!
    5. slaventi
      slaventi 12 September 2018 13: 31
      -4

      Putin's tame dog said "woof".

      Leshkak Bulk hand-held dog of the State Department. Meets with American diplomats ..
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 September 2018 13: 37
        +13
        the country is turning into a big circus ...
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 12 September 2018 14: 23
          +10
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          the country is turning into a big circus ...

          But for some reason it is not funny (
          1. Tsoy
            Tsoy 12 September 2018 17: 30
            +3
            Quote: freddyk
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            the country is turning into a big circus ...
            But for some reason it is not funny (



            Probably because we are unwittingly participating in it, and not looking from the side ...
      2. Revival
        Revival 12 September 2018 14: 57
        +4
        Moreover, you can still bring many who meet with American diplomats
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 00
          +5
          Quote: Revival
          Moreover, you can still bring many who meet with American diplomats

          Lavrov, Putin, for example laughing
    6. Svateev
      Svateev 12 September 2018 21: 55
      0
      Navalny is once again not just "not deep", but generally not on the case.
      He accused Rosguard of procurement from a single supplier. Rosguard on its website replied:
      "In the process of executing government contracts concluded in November-December 2017, suppliers did not cope with the declared prices, as they simply dumped at the tender stage, which was the reason for their early termination. The consequence of dumping is low product quality.
      In 2017, almost 3 thousand tons of products were rejected during veterinary and sanitary supervision when accepting products in the army.
      Working with a single supplier allowed us to reduce the volume of substandard products detected in 2018 by 65%. "
      1. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 13 September 2018 11: 26
        -2
        So what is the problem then ?? request There is no legal department in the apparatus of the State Corporation "Rosgvardia" ?? Or do the mentally retarded work in this department ?? An order is given - documents and other arguments are collected - and go to court !! Art. 128.1 clause 2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - not ?? Fortunately, something tells me that the court will "interpret all doubts" in favor of the FSNG. tongue And then - even it will be possible "with music, pomp and chief torch-bearers (read - media coverage) in the first category" laughing to report on replenishment of the federal budget at the expense of "State Department grants" for lemon. Or - "we are not created for easy ways ..." (C) angry laughing
        1. Svateev
          Svateev 13 September 2018 15: 30
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Goncharov
          So what is the problem then ??

          I don’t know for sure, because I don’t serve in the Russian Guard. But I think the problem is this:
          Quote: Sergey Goncharov
          something tells me that the court will "interpret all doubts" in favor of the FSNG.

          You see, you already "know" in advance that the trial will be unjust, poor Navalny will be sued ... And the "navalnyata" teenagers are also sure of this. Well, you want to think so. It's good for you to think so. As an abandoned woman, it is pleasant to think that the one who quit is the last bastard and everyone who disagrees with her is simply in cahoots with him.
          I confess that I don't think Zolotov's appeal is the best way to convince such "confident" ones. But I can understand him.
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          2. Sergey Goncharov
            Sergey Goncharov 13 September 2018 19: 52
            -2
            Well, why is it "sure that they will sue" ?? laughing I stated only what I said - if they are presented controversial arguments, the court will interpret the controversial points in the case of the form "state agency against a private person" in favor of the state structure. A completely common practice not only in Ukraine and Russia, but also in a country like France, for example. But there can be arguments undeniable! wink Mr. "general from pontoon" (not in the sense of "pontoon units", but in the sense of "show-off") has reason to worry that arguments of the second category may be put forward against his department ??
            1. Svateev
              Svateev 13 September 2018 20: 26
              +1
              Quote: Sergey Goncharov
              arguments of the second category can be put forward against his department ??

              Well, I’m saying: neither you nor I know what Zolotov thinks. But you WANT to believe in bad things even without evidence, you just want to.
              1. Sergey Goncharov
                Sergey Goncharov 13 September 2018 22: 17
                -1
                Well - that Zolotov thinks - I, of course, do not know - for he is not a telepath. But here - than he thinks - this is very clearly visible from his statement. laughing
                Essentially: I have read both the arguments of Mr. Navalny and the responses to them by the Rosgvardia press service. IMHO, specifically - with commented figures - and point by point - the press service of "Rosgvardia" reply NOT managed so far ...
                1. perm23
                  perm23 14 September 2018 08: 40
                  0
                  but how can I answer a clear lie and vyser. as. That this goat bulk show all the documents. Prove with foam at the mouth that this and that. Teresa May also behaves. vyser and all. .You understand tomorrow you will be called a maniac zoophile and what to do. run to collect documents. that this is not a reference from the animal welfare society. . Maybe the general shouldn’t have spoken publicly and just to catch and break this goat.
                  1. Sergey Goncharov
                    Sergey Goncharov 14 September 2018 20: 17
                    -1
                    Why "foam at the mouth" ?? request
                    In Ukraine, for example, when purchasing goods and services for the needs of the Ministry of Defense or the Ministry of Internal Affairs - if
                    only those goods or services are not provided by a "natural monopoly" or are not of a "unique nature" - it is mandatory that potential suppliers attach information about comparative prices in the market. Some information is then also checked by "who is supposed to" for reliability.
                    Mr. Navalny provided a number of specific product names with specific comparative prices for them. So what is easier - an extract from the above reference from a supplier with market prices for these same products (in the same quality, in similar packaging, with similar delivery conditions) to be posted on the Rosgvardia website - all business! And if Mr. Navalny is lying, everyone will immediately see his foolish foolishness. Well, next - "press" a comrade under Art. 128 of the Criminal Code. And "in the appendage" - the supplier can still bring a civil suit for a "tidy" amount - "damage to business reputation" and all that. wink
                    If I am "called" ... It strongly depends on who calls me and under what circumstances. When my stepdaughter called me and my wife (her mother) - "perverts" - I just gave her a slap in the face. But when - in 2004 it seems - a group of comrades "with an active civic position" on the forum of one of the newspapers in which I worked then, threatened to "disclose my agent pseudonym in the FSB and information about my real estate in St. Petersburg" laughing - I spoke on the radio and offered a bet: if someone publicly under his own name declares that he undertakes to provide the relevant evidence and provides them - I roll out a box of the real "Napoleon" to him under the video camera. And if "he doesn't shmoget" - I publicly call him on the air of the National Radio "pathetic m ..... m" - and he doesn't complain about it. For some reason, no one accepted the bet ... laughing laughing
    7. Petrograd
      Petrograd 13 September 2018 23: 57
      0
      quietly comrade, the guardsman does not sleep, monitors bully
      1. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 14 September 2018 02: 48
        -2
        Oh, and where didn’t our disappear ?? laughing laughing And how our Department of State Protection (an analogue of your FSO) "dearly loved" me! And nothing - in the end, even the permission for the "short-barreled" was confirmed. laughing laughing .
    8. karabas86
      karabas86 15 September 2018 23: 47
      -1
      Not for long, soon they will shoot at those who are not enthusiastic enough.
  2. martin-159
    martin-159 12 September 2018 05: 43
    +51
    Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 12 September 2018 06: 44
      +34
      Quote: martin-159
      Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.

      Decent "nobles", after such an epic feil (the censorship will not let another expression) - committed suicide, or at least retired, to their estate
      1. Titsen
        Titsen 12 September 2018 07: 00
        +12
        Do not wait!

        Only the pressure on opponents of popular power will intensify!

        Allegedly folk ...

        And they will start to hit on all fronts!
      2. AUL
        AUL 12 September 2018 08: 59
        +9
        Quote: Chertt
        Quote: martin-159
        Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.

        Decent "nobles", after such an epic feil (the censorship will not let another expression) - committed suicide, or at least retired, to their estate
        And if he didn’t resign himself, they were forcibly sent for such a fortress! And about suicide - so the gendarmes did not shoot with shame.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 12 September 2018 13: 04
          +1
          Quote: AUL
          so the gendarmes did not shoot with shame

          You have a slightly preconceived notion about the "Special Gendarme Corps". True patriots of the Empire, people of honor often went there. The gendarmes were not only the first to stand in the way of the emerging terrorism of the Narodnaya Volya-Yesser-Esdeks, but they themselves often became targets of thugs.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 05
            -1
            Quote: Chertt
            Quote: AUL
            so the gendarmes did not shoot with shame

            You have a slightly preconceived notion about the "Special Gendarme Corps". True patriots of the Empire, people of honor often went there. The gendarmes were not only the first to stand in the way of the emerging terrorism of the Narodnaya Volya-Yesser-Esdeks, but they themselves often became targets of thugs.

            In fairness, they themselves were rare scumbags. No wonder the army despised them, what do you think?
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 12 September 2018 08: 52
      +34
      Quote: martin-159
      Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.

      13 years in the FSO are not in vain. Accustomed to ride as they want, spitting on traffic rules and any other laws. Modern guardsmen
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 12 September 2018 09: 26
        +17
        Quote: Winnie76
        Modern guardsmen

        There is no more precise definition! drinks
        1. Faceless
          Faceless 12 September 2018 10: 02
          -21
          I would like to add a few words to the article. The first is to catch the author in a lie. It so happened that I live near the Finland Station in St. Petersburg. Indeed, there was a communal accident on Thursday. With a fountain from the ground and with water ankle-deep. If the author has no idea about the facts, then let him keep silent rather than write unverified rumors, justifying his name. Saying that this is the first excuse that comes up is to try to shift the emphasis. I’m not sure that in two days such an accident can be completely eliminated. And if he breaks out again, and there will be people around? But why should the author think about such trifles. Well this is just an excuse to cancel the rally ...

          I don’t know what was on the Champ de Mars - I’d better leave the mess to pick up mushrooms than I, along with the schoolboy, scream that their pensions were stolen.
          I saw who was detained at Finlyandsky. They do not know at all what the FIU is, and not a single employer has paid contributions for them there yet. They would have a good belt, but in the corner for peas. They have not yet grown to the level of paddy wagons, but stubbornly want to be "like adults" So that everything is "serious" arrest, so arrest ...

          About the Rosguard. Indeed, such an answer is one of the desired outcomes of the provocation. And the man in uniform to the level of Navalny did not fit.

          An officer is not an officer ... The author of the article has forgotten almost 20 years of hatred for "tsarist gold-chasers" in our history, when instead of officers we had paints (red commanders), when the norms of the commanding staff of troops (any) differed significantly from ours and times RI. Therefore, I do not see anything shameful in calling V. Zolotov an officer. According to Russian moral standards, and not according to obsolete ones - of any period, and parallels are hardly appropriate here.

          At the same time, as before, I consider it a mistake to give a similar response to the provocation. It would be better if several lawsuits were filed in court, at least for libel (a corrupt official only after a court verdict).

          There are always problems with personnel. But it is necessary to evaluate the commander of the Russian Guard based on how he fulfills his immediate responsibilities. From my point of view, he deserved a good four. Illegal rallies were dispersed, there were no fatalities, minimal material damage, normal life in the city was restored, on Monday, all civilians went to work as if nothing had happened.

          And many thanks to the Russian Guard for this.

          To wade among half-drunk gopnik-youngsters with political slogans to work is an unpleasant occupation. And so there are enough of their problems, but here you still think. no matter how they robbed, but they did not throw a firecracker in the interests of the revolution for a collar. I’m not with them, I’m going to work. I need to feed my family, and not engage in nonsense on the weekend in the square ... But they don’t understand. They don’t want to understand. People like me are strangers to them.

          To have something to compare the actions of our National Guard - look at Germany, at the United States, remember a little more distant events: how refugees in Europe walked up to their fullest on New Year's Eve with local girls. This is what happens when the internal security structures (whatever you want to call them: gendarmes, carabinieri, police, even the "guard di finance") do not work effectively.

          The explosives worked best during the Maidan in Ukraine - a vivid result of what happens when the street wins. Here is the future that Navalny wants for the Russian Federation. Therefore, only stupid schoolchildren and paid provocateurs follow him (+ a few odious ones, mainly during periods of autumn-spring aggravation).
          And normal people work. They solve their problems, understanding the obvious truth that corruption cannot be defeated by rallies.
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 10: 17
            +18
            Quote: Faceless
            scream together with shkolota that their pensions were stolen.

            Quote: Faceless
            To wade among half-drunk gopnik-youngsters

            Quote: Faceless
            take a look at Germany, the USA

            Quote: Faceless
            refugees in Europe

            Quote: Faceless
            during the Maidan in Ukraine

            Quote: Faceless
            stupid schoolchildren and paid provocateurs

            Quote: Faceless
            normal people work

            Quote: Faceless
            rallies can not be defeated

            Loud prolonged applause comma everybody get up fellow
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 12 September 2018 10: 30
              +13
              Quote: Tibidokh
              Quote: Faceless
              scream together with shkolota that their pensions were stolen.

              Quote: Faceless
              To wade among half-drunk gopnik-youngsters

              Quote: Faceless
              take a look at Germany, the USA

              Quote: Faceless
              refugees in Europe

              Quote: Faceless
              during the Maidan in Ukraine

              Quote: Faceless
              stupid schoolchildren and paid provocateurs

              Quote: Faceless
              normal people work

              Quote: Faceless
              rallies can not be defeated

              Loud prolonged applause comma everybody get up fellow
              Eka you dismantled the post of comradegoodDirectly prepared abstracts from the training manual laughing
              1. Tibidokh
                Tibidokh 12 September 2018 13: 24
                +4
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                Directly prepared abstracts from the training manual

                Please designate me as a co-author of the training manual! drinks
            2. Faceless
              Faceless 12 September 2018 10: 50
              -13
              Tell me the country, for all of world history, where corruption has been defeated by rallies on the street.
              And at the same time, a country, wherever it was not at all, as a phenomenon. this does not mean that it is not necessary to fight it, but the fight against corruption and attempts to overthrow the current government are different things, if not the opposite.
              1. Tibidokh
                Tibidokh 12 September 2018 13: 28
                +6
                Quote: Faceless
                fight against corruption and attempts to overthrow the current government

                The overthrow of power is legal and violent. Legal - impeachment, for example. Violent is a revolution. Show me at least one person on the site calling for a revolution. request
              2. Tsoy
                Tsoy 12 September 2018 17: 35
                +5
                Quote: Faceless
                -10
                Tell me the country, for all of world history, where corruption has been defeated by rallies on the street.


                The most recent example is South Korea. Corruption was not won, but with rallies the president was forced to resign.
              3. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 13 September 2018 05: 21
                +5
                Quote: Faceless
                And at the same time, a country, wherever it was not at all, as a phenomenon. this does not mean that it is not necessary to fight it, but the fight against corruption and attempts to overthrow the current government are different things, if not the opposite.

                We saw the techniques and methods of combating corruption in the Ministry of Defense Service case ... We were directly amazed at the "cruelty of justice." Where was this Zolotov? Why was he not outraged by the impudent behavior of the defendants there? Attempts to overthrow the current government? What are you talking about, sir? There is one attempt here - to bring the power-hungry authorities to a sober assessment of their activities ...
          2. pormezan
            pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 19
            +9
            Now, very many will follow him. The people will get tired of going to the distracting rallies of the Communist Party and go to the camp of the radicals. And let the Rosgvardia learn from the Ukrainian Golden Eagle to ask for forgiveness on Karachka.
            1. Faceless
              Faceless 12 September 2018 10: 32
              -10
              And you, dear Alexei, in those glorious times, will you personally protect your family from radicals with a baseball bat on the threshold of your apartment? And then they will take beautiful daughters to themselves in the interests of the revolution - the people are simple, they don’t need much.
              And your life will get better right away when the raging youth smash the window in your house near the store, grind your car with bats (in the interests of the revolution). And there is nothing from whom you will not exact. Remember the pogroms of the 90s after football matches. One team lost to the other, and residents of houses, owners of shops and cafes closer to the stadium, and public transport suffer from fans. Do you think the "fans" were interested in football there? - they are interested in fists and scratching bits.

              You cited a golden eagle as an example. So how is it there? After that, did life turn into paradise as soon as the golden eagle was dispersed? Do you want the same in Russia?
              If, apart from your chains, there is nothing to lose, and the concept of "Motherland" is alien - then why not. Our marginalized people already made a revolution a century ago. Count your losses. Want version 2.0?
              It’s just not sweet to anyone, believe me. Want to check - look again at Ukraine - as the most striking example of recent times.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 18
                +3
                Quote: Faceless
                And you, dear Alexei, in those glorious times, will you personally protect your family from radicals with a baseball bat on the threshold of your apartment? And then they will take beautiful daughters to themselves in the interests of the revolution - the people are simple, they don’t need much.
                And your life will get better right away when the raging youth smash the window in your house near the store, grind your car with bats (in the interests of the revolution). And there is nothing from whom you will not exact. Remember the pogroms of the 90s after football matches. One team lost to the other, and residents of houses, owners of shops and cafes closer to the stadium, and public transport suffer from fans. Do you think the "fans" were interested in football there? - they are interested in fists and scratching bits.

                You cited a golden eagle as an example. So how is it there? After that, did life turn into paradise as soon as the golden eagle was dispersed? Do you want the same in Russia?
                If, apart from your chains, there is nothing to lose, and the concept of "Motherland" is alien - then why not. Our marginalized people already made a revolution a century ago. Count your losses. Want version 2.0?
                It’s just not sweet to anyone, believe me. Want to check - look again at Ukraine - as the most striking example of recent times.

                Nobody will protect us from radicals with a baseball bat - verified by personal experience, no need to bear childish nonsense here! From a drunken neighbor - and that can not / do not want. Would you read the law, or what? There is no obligation of law enforcement agencies to protect citizens - only the law, did they notice the difference from Soviet laws? and the law today is Zolotov and those whom he really must protect, but me and my family are not among them. Ask the owners to update the manuals, or something. Tired of reading the same nonsense.
              2. Kuts
                Kuts 20 September 2018 11: 14
                -1
                Faceless (Faceless) September 12, 2018 10:32
                With us, the marginals a century ago already made a revolution. Count the loss. Want version 2.0?


                Are you, I hope, about those who overthrew Nicholas II and wrote about the interim government?
            2. Opera
              Opera 12 September 2018 10: 34
              -8
              Wait torment, pormezan!
              1. Faceless
                Faceless 12 September 2018 10: 47
                -7
                Comrade lives in his own world ... Where to go on the weekend? What options: to the cottage, to pick mushrooms, to the cinema, to the theater, to hike, to travel, to the museum, to competitions (skiing, biking, motorsport ...), just to sleep off after a hard working week, to a restaurant with my wife, to an amusement park with children, at an exhibition, at a festival, just to get out into nature ...
                ... or go to a rally, get there either from a policeman with a baton, or from a protester with a firecracker and a rose, to rattle on sick leave, or in the bullpen (in the latter case, explain the absenteeism to the employer as well). Moreover, in this case, it would not hurt to think about who, while you yourself will be sitting or being treated, will earn money for the family.
                Indeed, with this choice, many will choose a rally - they will not get tired at work, but how to spend time differently or differently? Well, nothing else comes to mind ...
                1. Loess
                  Loess 13 September 2018 09: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Faceless
                  Moreover, in this case, it would not hurt to think

                  They don’t know how to think, bloggers think for them, and they only read and jump, jump, jump ...
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 12 September 2018 11: 06
            -1
            Quote: Faceless
            Indeed, there was a communal accident on Thursday. With a fountain from the ground and with water ankle-deep.

            Moreover, the consequences are eliminated to this day - shibanul seriously, pipe 0,8. There is still work somewhere for a week.
            Quote: Faceless
            But why should the author think about such trifles. Well this is just an excuse to cancel the rally ...

            Yes, their name is legion. Our local media tried to raise the same, but after the news reports "78" and "St. Petersburg" about the real scale of the accident, everything calmed down. However, I look, the wave was driven further. laughing Eh-bo, some circus offended.
            1. Vladimir 5
              Vladimir 5 12 September 2018 12: 45
              +5
              Some amazing coincidence of a large communal accident of place and time, and the elimination for weeks, is also surprising. The accident is blocked in hours, and eliminated in a couple of days, in view of an exclusive public place. It looks like an accident from a series of "custom-made" ones, of course, it can be natural according to the theory of probability, but the percentage is not high ... According to Zolotov, since such ill-considered actions of the commander with violations of the legality of the statement, the question of the suitability of the position rises in full growth ...
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 12 September 2018 13: 19
                -1
                Quote: Vladimir 5
                Looks like an accident from a series of "custom"

                Well, they could also order in bulk or in bulk, how to call it right ... And then shout that they are not coordinating our action.
              2. Faceless
                Faceless 12 September 2018 14: 36
                0
                Sorry, but I want to ask: do you yourself understand what you're talking about? Municipal accident order ... Yeah. To blow up a pipe under asphalt and earth ... Go down from heaven to earth: I do not ask you to be at the scene, but at least read the chronicle of the incidents before writing nonsense.
                1. Opera
                  Opera 12 September 2018 15: 56
                  +5
                  Faceless, what are you ?! Bulk rallies with bulk banks are the problem of such proportions that the authorities do not know what to do then ?! They wanted to shut Peter down altogether, but there was some kind of bright communal head ... laughing
              3. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 12 September 2018 19: 45
                +3
                Quote: Vladimir 5
                Looks like a custom-made accident

                Damn it, I thought paranoia was purely my thing. laughing wassat Oh, trouble-trouble ... Hello dale. hi
          4. naidas
            naidas 12 September 2018 13: 43
            +4
            Quote: Faceless
            rallies can not be defeated

            To defeat corruption, it must be led and that is what has been done in modern Russia.
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            1. Svateev
              Svateev 12 September 2018 22: 07
              +3
              Quote: tracer
              Website V.O. turns into a dangerous tool to counter the government and its discredit

              You are right.
              For example, I was imposed with warnings for the fact that I was "advertising someone else's site", and I was advertising the site of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. For the moderators and for the owner of this site, our Ministry of Defense is a stranger.
          6. albert
            albert 12 September 2018 21: 50
            +4
            Quote: Faceless
            An officer is not an officer ... The author of the article has forgotten almost 20 years of hatred for "tsarist gold diggers" in our history, when instead of officers we had paint

            Thanks to such "officers", hatred of "gold-diggers" 2 may well return. It is not for nothing that they say that history repeats itself in a spiral.
          7. Alekseev
            Alekseev 14 September 2018 15: 00
            0
            Quote: Faceless
            only stupid schoolchildren and paid provocateurs go to him

            You (and I, too) were wrong, however. Well, throwing beads in front of .... "minus", there is still no sense. "To buzz as if grinding" liberal "minuses", but that's okay.
            Zelotov’s Zelo’s love and Zolotov’s stupid deed does not play any role, since in the head of theirs sawdust and Wishlist everything at once, yes, yes, yes.
            But nothing, the main thing, as one famous Orthodox figure used to say, is that the Orthodox (read patriots) are at their best, then no infidels (read pro-naval "misuars") are not afraid. yes
          8. Petrograd
            Petrograd 16 September 2018 22: 17
            0
            Well, not one you live in St. Petersburg, at the Finland Station, there was no fountain and flood wink and the point is to protect the entire area, and not the place of the accident, and even such "workers" from the Russian Guard
            Quote: Faceless
            And if he breaks out again, and there will be people around?

            And if in another place it breaks, for example on Nevsky?
            Quote: Faceless
            I don’t know what was on the Champ de Mars - I’d better leave the mess to pick up mushrooms than I, along with the schoolboy, scream that their pensions were stolen.

            "Shokolota" and "stupid schoolchildren", as you put it, are our children, our future, and today we see what they will be tomorrow, maybe they will not get carried away with "mushrooms", but be puzzled, for example, why do they participate in these events?
            Quote: Faceless
            At the same time, as before, I consider it a mistake to give a similar response to the provocation. It would be better if several lawsuits were filed in court, at least for libel (a corrupt official only after a court verdict).

            Are you naive or .. (like from a movie the phrase “Uncle Faceless you do .... ak?”) Which court, who will check, are the same and they are (a raven crow, as they say eye will not peck)
            Simply, His Excellency VVZ (as consonant with GDP laughing ) showed his civil-noble position, said something, did not like it, and now you will be a "juicy chop" in front of the formation, or even better before this formation, drive it out first, yes with gauntlets.
            Quote: Faceless
            And many thanks to the Russian Guard for this.

            It’s counted, save the skin of your comment, maybe another hundred will be added to the pension.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 12 September 2018 10: 19
          +5
          Quote: Tibidokh
          Quote: Winnie76
          Modern guardsmen
          There is no more precise definition!

          now this is depressing, after all, if we continue the analogy, after Ivan the Terrible, troubled times should wait for Russia
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 10: 24
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            if you continue the analogy, then after Ivan the Terrible Russia should expect troubled times

            God forbid! belay
            1. Tahtvjd2868
              Tahtvjd2868 12 September 2018 17: 29
              +1
              Unfortunately, without options: Good times give rise to weak people, weak people lead to bad times, bad times give rise to strong people - strong people lead to good times. This is a cycle.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 14 September 2018 19: 41
                +2
                Quote: Tahtvjd2868
                This is a cycle.

                Cycles have a peculiarity - they increase in size each time, but in the end, as in a computer strategy, a situation arises with the most developed technologies and a complete lack of resources. We are already approaching this limit.
    3. AK1972
      AK1972 12 September 2018 16: 45
      +8
      Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.

      Together with Olgovich. He wants to popularly elect Putin as king, to receive the count’s title and minister’s post himself, a couple of towns with surrounding villages and three thousand serfs.
      1. albert
        albert 12 September 2018 21: 52
        0
        Dreaming them is not harmful. In Kashchenko they are waiting for such.
  3. Digital error
    Digital error 12 September 2018 05: 44
    +38
    A living example of why it is not necessary to raise the retirement age. He sits there, holds his teeth for a place and hinders development. There are plenty of examples of such leaders around, and each of them is periodically forced to demonstrate that he is something else. We already had gerontocrats ...
    1. De laert
      De laert 13 September 2018 00: 31
      0
      This one does not "hold on with his teeth", but sits quite so confidently, you cannot move him with a tractor, for he is a friend of Himself.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 September 2018 06: 01
    0
    Of course, it is disgusting that Mr. Zolotov was changed by professional restraint ... But the theme from the cycle "About the goat Timur, Shurygina, Petrosyans" and other dosed informational rubbish.
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      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 12 September 2018 10: 35
        +13
        Quote: pormezan
        Russia is not a legal state, but a criminal plowland.

        to a certain level, Russia is a rule of law state, above is a criminal plowland, over which there is a foreign financial khanate
  5. demo
    demo 12 September 2018 06: 01
    +58
    Honestly, after a day from the date of publication, it does not surprise the behavior of our LORD.
    One gentleman gave another gentleman a suitcase of money, and when it was necessary to testify in court, he simply FORGOT the court.
    This figure (the court guard the LORD does not turn his back on the tongue), having behind him the power and authority of the Guarantor of the Constitution, decided to teach the insolent a lesson with the methods available to him.
    If he had his will, he would have been scammed to the stable and flogged to death.
    And so even decided to mess up his hands.
    The power has really come off the "land" and believes in its irremovability and permissiveness.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 12 September 2018 08: 27
      +11
      permissiveness breeds irresponsibility ... and we live ...
      well ... you won’t throw words out of a song ... the result is ...
      what pain, what pain ... bulk - gold 5 (five): 0 (zero) ....
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 12 September 2018 10: 24
      +2
      Quote: demo
      The power really came off about the "land" and believes in its irremovability and permissiveness

      it’s certain that it really took off from the earth, but the very fact of a challenge to a duel suggests that he can’t legally fight it or does not want it because of the lack of an effective way to fight it. What provides food for all kinds of speculation
  6. Ivan staryi
    Ivan staryi 12 September 2018 06: 06
    +39
    In my opinion, according to the duel codes, the type of weapon chosen by the called party. Accordingly, this is not necessarily a ring.))) If Navalny realizes, then Zolotov’s political strategists are seriously screwed up! After all, you can choose a method that does not contradict the law, in which the former guard is as weak as how weak Bulk is in the ring.
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 06: 42
      +6
      You are absolutely right! drinks In the history of duels in Russia there has even been - at least according to the "omniscient" RuViki - a duel on copper candelabra. wink laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 12 September 2018 07: 44
        +10
        in a meat grinder !!!!
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 12 September 2018 07: 55
      +42
      Quote: Ivan staryi
      After all, you can choose a method that does not contradict the law, in which the former guard is as weak as how weak Bulk is in the ring.

      I advise Navalny to choose chess. Another joke will be. The whole country is marching.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 12 September 2018 08: 49
        +19
        I’m afraid one of the duelists will fall down already when arranging the pieces! wassat
        1. kakvastam
          kakvastam 12 September 2018 11: 20
          +4
          I have never heard of the chess successes of Navalny.
          The stamp of the form "wearing glasses means smart" is a dangerous delusion.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 12 September 2018 17: 04
            0
            Quote: kakvastam
            I have never heard of the chess successes of Navalny.
            The stamp of the form "wearing glasses means smart" is a dangerous delusion.

            As summoned to a duel, Navalny has the right to choose a weapon. So I would choose a slingshot. laughing
            1. goblin xnumx
              goblin xnumx 18 September 2018 00: 41
              0
              both seem to have a law degree ...- forward- to a dispute :)
      2. pormezan
        pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 24
        +5
        It is necessary to choose a court and in court let Zolotov and his subordinates try to justify themselves. Navalny has a finished criminal case against Zolotov.
        1. Ivan staryi
          Ivan staryi 12 September 2018 13: 53
          +3
          He does not have any criminal case. The law is not formally violated.
          1. De laert
            De laert 13 September 2018 00: 41
            +1
            And threats, intimidation, etc.?
    3. Deck
      Deck 12 September 2018 12: 10
      +1
      Well, for example, call to debate on Channel One!
  7. Phil77
    Phil77 12 September 2018 06: 07
    +15
    Take care, Comrade General!
  8. 3vs
    3vs 12 September 2018 06: 09
    +9
    Like this:
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 12 September 2018 14: 19
      0
      Thank you for the video, laughed heartily.
    2. free
      free 15 September 2018 18: 46
      0
      Ah-ah-ha! Cool video, thanks. hi
  9. Karabin
    Karabin 12 September 2018 06: 09
    +42
    We, in principle, have long been aware that President Putin has a huge staff shortage.

    Are Putin’s headquarters all malacholny? laughing
    1. 3vs
      3vs 12 September 2018 07: 38
      +36
      Yes, most people are already visible the complete insanity of power.
      What can I say if Putin, in an interview with the workers, began to twist uncomfortable numbers with salaries:
      Putin discussed with Zvezda employees their salary
      https://regnum.ru/news/2480255.html
      "Russian President Vladimir Putin, during a meeting with employees of the Zvezda shipyard, asked them about their salaries. The corresponding video was published on the official website of the head of state.
      When asked about the average salary at the enterprise, which, he suggested, could be about 90 thousand, one of the employees told the president:
      “No, what are you! 30 − 40 thousand. "
      To this, Putin replied:
      “30 − 40 is like around the edge. I know: in the region the average is 40. ”
      Then another woman explained that, according to the personnel department, the average salary at the enterprise is 70 thousand rubles.
      “Well, the personnel department knows,” the president said.

      That's right, the hard workers of 30, the bosses of 100 thousands, this is not for directors with chief accountants, those, perhaps, are estimated in millions, and the average will be 70!
      Shame, what else to talk about ...

      And there is also an interesting fact:
      Peskov explained where the transcript of Putin’s conversation with the workers disappeared
      https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2480242.html
      "The transcript of a conversation between Russian President Vladimir Putin and employees of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex in Bolshoy Kamen (Primorsky Territory) has been replaced with a video file," said the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov, the radio station Says Moscow.
      As REGNUM reported earlier, Putin during a trip to Primorsky Krai to the Eastern Economic Forum visited the Zvezda shipyard in Big Stone and talked there with workers.
      A transcript of the conversation with the shipyard employees was published on the president's official website. Later, the media reported that the transcript was removed from the site. "
      They realized that there was nowhere else to go, they just decided to remove it, as it had not.
      But the word is not a sparrow ...
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 12 September 2018 11: 31
        +5
        In fact, such conversations are carefully prepared, so the "inconvenient" numbers were laid down by the director from the very beginning. Why is another question.
        But if it really came down to uncontrolled communication - write is gone, Mr. Putin is finally written off. But it is hardly believed.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 12 September 2018 10: 27
      +1
      Quote: Karabin
      We, in principle, have long been aware that President Putin has a huge staff shortage.
      Are Putin’s headquarters all malacholny?

      Yes, there is a shortage of personnel throughout the country .. Any levels of specialists, as well as a shortage of work.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 30
        +3
        Quote: aybolyt678
        Quote: Karabin
        We, in principle, have long been aware that President Putin has a huge staff shortage.
        Are Putin’s headquarters all malacholny?

        Yes, there is a shortage of personnel throughout the country .. Any levels of specialists, as well as a shortage of work.

        There is no shortage of personnel in the country, what nonsense? They just don’t hire strangers and anyone over 50, so on the one hand we have talentless managers and a crowd of professionals without work on the other. Well, that’s how we ourselves chose both capitalism and the capitalists, whose interests are now represented by the authorities, what to do.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 13 September 2018 20: 34
          +1
          Quote: Doliva63
          There is no shortage of personnel in the country, what nonsense?

          there is a deficit. I am an entrepreneur, and I can’t find a sane professional in my profile. Before that, he was in the civil service a small district chief, the same thing. No people. Or do not want to work, or simply can not because of the fact that they are used to have fun.
          Quote: Doliva63
          here we have, on the one hand, mediocre managers and a crowd of professionals without work on the other
          - we just do not have production. And if there is somewhere in fierce competition with cheap and brilliant imports.
          Quote: Doliva63
          Well, that’s how we ourselves chose capitalism.
          this is not capitalism but its kind - neocolonialism
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 12 September 2018 06: 15
    +22
    The French have a good saying: "What is the master, such is the servant."
    ... In Russia ... well, there is a proverb: "By the gang and the ataman, and by the sheep, the shepherd" .... And so this is all the country of literary heroes, M.E.Saltykov-Shchedrin "The history of one city", "Pompadours and pompadursi "...
  11. milling machine
    milling machine 12 September 2018 06: 19
    +24
    All countries have their own mafia (bandits), but not every mafia has its own country.
    1. Russia
      Russia 12 September 2018 06: 31
      +6
      Yeah, then I’ll add in unison: the revolution has a beginning, the revolution has no end.
      1. free
        free 15 September 2018 18: 50
        0
        Quote: Rusland
        Yeah, then I’ll add in unison: the revolution has a beginning, the revolution has no end.

        Do you even know what the word revolution means? Don't be foolish about yourself.
    2. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 07: 14
      +2
      Well - such examples are by no means unique in reality. There is, for example, Guinea-Bissau ... laughing laughing
      1. SEER
        SEER 16 September 2018 16: 41
        0
        Quote: Sergey Goncharov
        Well - such examples are by no means unique in reality. There is, for example, Guinea-Bissau ... laughing laughing

        But I didn’t remember my independent one? or is she already a beacon of European democracy?
  12. tasha
    tasha 12 September 2018 06: 19
    +6
    problems with personnel in the highest echelons of power

    This is a problem of any power ... For centuries, rulers and thinkers have been trying to solve the problem of choosing between business qualities or loyalty and personal devotion ..

    Perhaps this is the nature of man .. It is interesting to watch films about the confrontation between the two sides .. In what future this happens, what tricks and technical skills are applied - it doesn’t matter, it all ends with a banal scuffle ... laughing
  13. Sergey Goncharov
    Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 06: 23
    +13
    And I - in place of Mr. Navalny - would recall that according to the Duel Codes, in certain cases (and this is just that case) "substitutes" are allowed. By the way, the last time such a case was in Uruguay quite recently - EMNIS, at the turn of the 1980s / 1990s - then instead of being summoned to a duel (in the Eastern Republic of Uruguay at that time - oddly enough - formally there were still no banned) by someone from the top leadership of the local Armed Forces of the journalist - expressed a desire to shoot himself by the retired commander-in-chief of the local Armed Forces (who was very fond of pistol shooting both during and after service and showed very good results laughing ) I think that in today's Russia there is also a good shooter for such a thing. That's interesting - how will Mr. Zolotov react then ?? No, I repent, repent repeat - in fact - to me it not very interesting. For I, it seems, already guesses how he will react if an extra-class shooter is put up against him "seriously" ... But still, all the same ... tongue laughing
    PS But in some ways, the author is still wrong. There was a glorious-funny time when duels in the Russian Army and the Russian Imperial Navy were indeed allowed - and in known cases - even directly prescribed. Officially quite. Moreover - the Supreme Command of the Sovereign Emperor (May 13, 1894, art. Art.). wink
    1. SEER
      SEER 16 September 2018 16: 42
      0
      you are in his place better to sit in jail for 30 days. we can clean the brains. although hardly ...
  14. Deck
    Deck 12 September 2018 06: 23
    +43
    And by the way, this guard is not a bad idea. Calls me to his place, for example, a lieutenant colonel from the Department of Economic Crimes, So they say, and so, where is the money from the state contract, dear? And I told him: scoundrel! shoot immediately! I'll make drushlag out of you! At the same time, it stimulates drugs informally relates to shooting offsets.
  15. nafanal
    nafanal 12 September 2018 06: 24
    -47
    General .. You do not disgrace at least .. Set up this bulk goat dark. Meet him at the entrance and kick off. Discourage him from hiding under the youngsters
    1. pormezan
      pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 27
      +18
      You and Ikyu will be one general
    2. Deck
      Deck 12 September 2018 12: 08
      +12
      And if the guard of Putin is discouraged by the guard of Navalny? How then can we all live on? wink
  16. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 12 September 2018 06: 24
    +36
    Gens hysterical - definitely. Not only does it buy food at inflated prices, it is still not seasoned. Pah
    1. Waddimm
      Waddimm 12 September 2018 06: 55
      +25
      Yes, and not very smart. It was not difficult to calculate that such a statement would cause nothing but laughter. Satisfaction of some kind!
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 12 September 2018 07: 10
        +27
        the king of smarts doesn’t keep close to himself ... dangerous ...
        loyal servants, like dogs with jesters just right ...
      2. Locksmith
        Locksmith 12 September 2018 08: 01
        +21
        Quote: Waddimm
        Yes, and not very smart.

        Among the police officers conducted a test of quick wits. The essence of the test: holes of various shapes (square, circle, triangle, etc.) are cut out in a metal plate, the corresponding metal bodies must be inserted into them. According to the test results, police officers were divided into two groups: 1. Dumb. 2. Very strong. The general seems to be a champion in general.
        1. hohkn
          hohkn 14 September 2018 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: Locksmith
          The general seems to be a champion in general.

          IQ, it seems you have the same with him.
  17. ser65
    ser65 12 September 2018 06: 37
    -57
    Mr. General, with a wrought-iron boot, walked along the anal .... yes, already the sternum or (sternum?) screeched! for the words of the gentlemen must be answered!
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    2. kepmor
      kepmor 12 September 2018 07: 56
      +31
      and Putin himself with his retinue is responsible for his words ???? ...
      how much he has said in 18 years ...
      1. Igor Polovodov
        Igor Polovodov 12 September 2018 12: 13
        +5
        So ... also another term was ..
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 12 September 2018 08: 11
      +8
      do you think so? Looks like you are from the gendarmes
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      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 37
        +3
        Quote: kotvov
        your master general is just as dumb as you can see.

        Gentlemen, in fact, never differed in their minds, otherwise the peasants from the Red Army would not have been blown away. And right now they strive to blow through the Russian Federation, but already to the gentlemen from behind the hill.
  18. Indifferent
    Indifferent 12 September 2018 06: 39
    -16
    I took up Zolotov’s challenge in an allegorical way. After all, it is clear that there can be no duel. These are all metaphors. He is offended and requires satisfaction. This can happen only in court or in the street, when Navalny again leads the crowd. I would be more careful in his place now. He really can be beaten. And they’ll do it right! You need to express your thoughts carefully and having iron evidence. If Navalny sues and proves his point, here Zolotov will have to plaintively hiccup. And if not, then Zolotov is right. And then the author of this text will look pale along with Navalny.
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 07: 01
      0
      In fact - at least a few can expect Mr. Zolotov very much unpleasant moments for the image if Mr. Navalny "innocently portrays a noble fool" - and pretends that he understood Mr. Zolotov's "challenge" literally. And I am ready to accept this challenge. But - to the great happiness for Mr. Zolotov - Mr. Navalny is clearly not from that category. Actually - that's why Mr. Navalny is still alive ... yes
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 12 September 2018 12: 57
        +5
        Quote: Sergey Goncharov
        if Mr. Navalny "innocently portrays a noble fool" - and pretends that he understood Mr. Zolotov's "challenge" literally. And I am ready to accept this challenge.

        Zolotov's image may suffer even more. After all, he threw down his challenge to a person who at the moment cannot answer him. But since the "honor" of the bulk is offended, the general's call can accept ... the wife of the bulk. Yes, yes, a fragile woman on YouTube publishes roles with a script:
        "Putin's wickedness, taking advantage of my husband's lack of an opportunity to respond, challenged him to a duel. But what is the strength, brother? Do you think in a general's uniform, sports titles and good athletic form? And I think it's true! And therefore I accept the challenge! I wait then then and there then "

        Next, Western television channels, several days of advertising, are connected to this, then Julia Navalna in gloves in the ring in the image of the Decembrist’s doomed wife. Zolotov is naturally not. He is declared a sass ... cowardly, he and Kadyrov declare a bulk coward who hid behind a skirt, Western media relish the news in such a way that the evil Putin put to a duel a weak woman and was frightened himself ...

        And then what?

        And if Navalny leaves, will he accept the challenge? And then everyone arrested at rallies will start to call the Rosgvardeytsev? And then everyone whom miles ... did the police press want satisfaction?

        It is clear that this is a video for a youth audience. But, as the master of political aphorism said -
        they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 12 September 2018 14: 29
          +2
          Yes, we would live bored if there weren’t Navalny and fools in power.
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    3. Locksmith
      Locksmith 12 September 2018 08: 06
      +19
      Quote: indifferent
      I took up Zolotov’s challenge in an allegorical way.

      "Never argue with idiots, you will go down to their level, where they will crush you with their experience" (C) M. Twain.
    4. pormezan
      pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 30
      +6
      Zolotov insulted ?! Zolotov caught red-handed at the embezzlement! Bulk already proved everything. Check out the materials. And Zolotov’s reaction is the best confirmation of Navalny’s rightness and that the evidence base is real.
    5. Egg
      Egg 12 September 2018 11: 54
      +14
      Quote: indifferent
      He is offended and requires satisfaction

      Since when has the accusation of corruption (theft) become an insult? all the more so since the general himself acknowledged corruption in his appeal. Or Bulk HIM called a bribe taker? or scum, slug, scoundrel, or something else is not literary? No, it’s just the opposite, this so-called general from the gendarmerie, specifically Navalny called everyone, and even expressed specific threats against him, publicly. There is clearly a criminal article would shine for anyone other than this general. The Prosecutor General’s office is quietly silent, although this is not surprising already.
      The general, called to defend the law, is slipping into a bydny market and direct threats ... kapets, survived ...
      In general, it’s somehow strange, the authorities accuse Navalny of almost all mortal sins, and he receives money from enemies and a provocateur constantly and in everything, and the organizer of unauthorized rallies (although for some reason all of our protest rallies are unauthorized, although who sanctioned protest against yourself beloved ...) and much more.
      BUT, interestingly, they cannot do anything with this Navalny, 15 daily landings do not count.
      Even if there is a Basmanny court ready to imprison anyone by order from the top, what, have we already canceled articles in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for the same defamation, if they can’t put them on other articles?
      I DO NOT BELIEVE! remember the classic: "there would be a man, but for what we will find".
      Or maybe not everything as our government paints? no lies, maybe money doesn’t get from enemies? or maybe it’s not at all how the advocates of power here present us on forums and in the media?
      Here in captivity you will pay attention to Navalny and involuntarily think about it.
  19. Sergey985
    Sergey985 12 September 2018 06: 46
    +35
    If I understand correctly, then turning to the court on Navalny, can the entire top of the Rosguard go to the bunk? Hence this ridiculous challenge to a duel. That is, in fact, a person, in the rank of a minister (called to protect citizens), dreams of killing a citizen (the surname of this citizen does not matter). Complete nonsense...
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 12 September 2018 19: 42
      +3
      Quote: Sergey985
      If I understand correctly, then turning to the court on Navalny, can the entire top of the Rosguard go to the bunk? Hence this ridiculous challenge to a duel. That is, in fact, a person, in the rank of a minister (called to protect citizens), dreams of killing a citizen (the surname of this citizen does not matter). Complete nonsense...

      I remember Putin called it stability. laughing
  20. Old tanker
    Old tanker 12 September 2018 06: 51
    +40
    There is only one conclusion from this glavkomovskogo slurred and chaotic statement (everything is in a heap of blood, blood, gamma, sand and sugar) of the pansky guard’s statement: Bulk one hundred pounds is right! Otherwise, the guard dog wouldn’t hysteria, wouldn’t cause a chop on the tatami (he didn’t offer to shoot, he pissed: a fool, but offered to beat him in the ring or the tatami, where he feels his strength), but filed a lawsuit against Navalny for slander. And he was silent for three weeks because, in my opinion, he dealt with the legal intricacies of such a lawsuit and realized it would lose (there are enough competent lawyers in the Russian Guard as well). That freaked out from anger.
    Deshovka, not the "general." But the deshovka is also cowardly.
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  21. Branch
    Branch 12 September 2018 07: 05
    +22
    Quote: martin-159
    Citizen Zolotov apparently imagined himself a nobleman.

    As we now know - the elite is called, here Rogozin is already hereditary. I looked at the moron .. compared the face with others like Siluanov - this is really the elite, an amazing selection of flawed dna ...
    I looked at the moron - and this carries, one of the first persons (Erysipelas!) Of the law enforcement system! But someone also allowed him ...
    If the moron isn’t removed within a week ... I'm afraid that everything is really bad with us.
    1. akunin
      akunin 12 September 2018 08: 46
      +10
      Quote: Lexus
      I'm afraid that everything is really bad with us

      don't be afraid you will be protected by the guard wassat ,
      everything is really bad with us
      if stupid people in power
      moron will not be removed within a week ...
      also reward for loyalty
  22. Opera
    Opera 12 September 2018 07: 09
    -27
    Do we have problems with personnel in the higher echelons?) Maybe! And you have specific problems with the revolutionaries! The revolutionaries do not change! Either about bloody gebnya they yell in bad voices from all the back streets, or they press so even a little manly to answer for those same screams right away - our court is the most humane court in the world, provide me with a personal armored camera until this your Zolotov calms down! And it is necessary, as they immediately remembered about the officers ’meetings and about who could be considered an officer, and who couldn’t be both about the court and the prosecutor’s office and about the laws ... And even Comrade Skomorokhov knows who he thinks he is Zolotov, the general of the gendarmerie of Tsarist Russia! I’m not sure what you are fighting with the regime, comrades, or for strict observance of the current legislation ?! And with such seriously-spiritualized faces ... Isn’t that funny for you yourself ?!
    By the way, Comrade Skomorokhov, for two consecutive times after your statues, they quickly banned me for supposedly comments containing trolling and provocation! Is that how you imagine satisfaction? ))))) Well then, of course, I support General Zolotov! And this comment can be considered another malicious violation of the rules of the site by trolling there or by the same provocation or even smoking in a public place! Lawyers ...))))))
    1. tasha
      tasha 12 September 2018 07: 19
      +23
      Let us leave aside the author’s arguments about officer meetings, honor and gendarmes ..
      For me, such a passage of the general is another confirmation that nothing changes ... As they used to solve problems, they solve it ... With a fist in the face - this is the answer ...
      1. Opera
        Opera 12 September 2018 08: 10
        -16
        The era of mercy still unfortunately has not arrived ... But everyone should be responsible for their actions. That is, with possible responsibility, to measure their actions and since there is no conscience at all, and the word honor in the mind does not respond at all! Do you want the law? Well, for a start, call Navalny with his discredit to go to court! But how strange it turns out - the general must legally, and Navalny, what is special or kissed by the State Department ?! Mr. Navalny does not want to go to court? Well, then he has the right to choose a duel! It seems everything is fair. Weak ?!
        And why am I the senior officer should leave the discussion of the revolutionaries on officer meetings ?! What more! I don’t tell Skomorokhov, Udaltsov and Navalny how to hold party meetings or what they hold there ?! At least for the time being this does not conflict with public order and the safety of citizens. So, to each his own.
        1. tasha
          tasha 12 September 2018 08: 21
          +17
          Well, for a start, call Navalny with his discredit to go to court!

          Mr. Navalny provided information in his video. If there is a lie and slander - then it must be brought to justice in court .. I think so ..
          But why should Navalny go to court, with what demand and to whom? Actually, it would be cool ... Bulk against the state on the fact of corruption ..

          And why am I the senior officer should leave

          You misunderstood me. I’m not a senior officer, therefore, I don’t presume to judge what was written in the article about officer meetings ..
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 12 September 2018 17: 53
            0
            Quote: tasha
            Actually, it would be cool ... Bulk against the state on the fact of corruption ..

            And what’s wrong? When there is evidence with them they go to court (all the more such a character), and they don’t hang noodles on the people! But the people we have are such (certain), he believes his word on brother good This same Lyoha said !! And he will not lie !!!!!!!
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 12 September 2018 08: 23
          +13
          Quote: Oper
          Mr. Navalny does not want to go to court?

          And he .... addressed, and more than once. laughing
          Quote: Oper
          Well, then he has the right to choose a duel! It seems everything is fair. Weak ?!

          If I were in his place, I would definitely accept the challenge. Mr. Zolotov doesn’t know a damn about dueling codes, otherwise he wouldn’t be talking about “chop” nonsense. There are many equalizers of chances, even if the person does not know how to shoot at all, or to fight. For example, if I choose a duel through a handkerchief, what will this guy say?
          1. Sergey Goncharov
            Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 09: 22
            +4
            Moreover - there are others - quite worthy and providing a completely equal chance - traditional options, even for completely not owning targeted shooting skills:
            "Put a pistol to your forehead" и "Muzzle into a muzzle". I would have looked - and with great interest recourse - to Mr. "Commander-in-Chief" in such a situation ... request
          2. Opera
            Opera 12 September 2018 10: 40
            -6
            And what is the result of appeals, Mordvin ?!
            Tasha, why is Navalny giving this information in general ?! Ie he informed, and you understand there so? Well, what kind of fighter is this for justice ????? Truth must be sought, including in court, punish corrupt officials, defend their point of view! So?! So where?! Is your Navalny generally responsible for something or something to talk about ?! laughing
            1. tasha
              tasha 12 September 2018 11: 04
              +3
              This is not your tooth and not even my tooth .. He is theirs (s) "Don't be afraid, I'm with you!" ... winked

              If I'm not mistaken, then FBK appeals to different bodies ...
              Public statements with or without publicity are one of the methods of propaganda.
            2. twviewer
              twviewer 12 September 2018 12: 16
              +6
              Quote: Oper
              he informed, and you sort it out there right?

              just like that, only instead of sorting out the answer "I'll make a chop out of you"
              but the fact that you do not know the elementary legal foundations being a "senior officer" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs just says what is written in the article, there is a problem with personnel in the country
            3. victor50
              victor50 12 September 2018 12: 27
              +7
              Quote: Oper
              And what is the result of appeals, Mordvin ?!
              Tasha, why is Navalny giving this information in general ?! Ie he informed, and you understand there so? Well, what kind of fighter is this for justice ????? Truth must be sought, including in court, punish corrupt officials, defend their point of view!

              Are you advocating something here? Or are you engaged in demagoguery, comrade senior officer? Is it true in court - is it, for example, that on the surface - Serdyukov and Vasilyeva? And as far as I remember it was like this: first take off the shoulder straps, and then "shoot" with civilians. Everything seems to have changed! Oh, I lagged behind life, from modern trends! Bulk is nobody to me. Moreover, I consider it a Kremlin project! The people (with a capital letter and in huge numbers) will never go for such a thing, as well as for another prominent oppositionist Ksyushenka. But everyone who is "not with us" can be called bulk. It's a shame to be equated with them winked . But the general does not have the right to behave this way while he is in office and in uniform! And the point. So taught! smile request
        3. dr.star75
          dr.star75 12 September 2018 09: 41
          +15
          "But for their actions, everyone should be responsible. Here, with the possible responsibility of their actions and measure, since there is no conscience at all and the word honor does not resonate in the mind at all!" - Are you talking about Zolotov? that he was not poor and was in business? Only when? When was he a "drummer of communist labor?"
          "Do you legally want?" - YES! and first of all from representatives and guardians of this LAW!
        4. rruvim
          rruvim 12 September 2018 09: 51
          +4
          How can he go to court? He's sitting. It was "closed" for 30 days ...
          1. SEER
            SEER 16 September 2018 16: 47
            0
            Quote: rruvim
            How can he go to court? He's sitting. It was "closed" for 30 days ...

            and mind you did the right thing
        5. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 12 September 2018 10: 07
          +10
          Quote: Oper
          Well, for a start, call Navalny with his discredit to go to court!

          Quote: Oper
          Mr. Navalny does not want to go to court?

          How corny it is: OPER, UNKNOWING THE LAW ... laughing
          Part 1 of Article 144 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation.
          The interrogator, the body of inquiry, the investigator, the head of the investigative body are obliged to accept, check the "message" about any committed or impending crime and, within the competence established by this Code, make a decision on it no later than 3 days from the date of receipt of the said message.

          Where is the report on the detection of signs of crime, where is the procedural verification of the widespread statement of the crime? Where is the solution - to institute criminal proceedings against Zolotov under article 285.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (misappropriation) or to institute criminal proceedings against Navalny under article 306 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (knowingly false denunciation)?
          WEAKLY?
          1. Opera
            Opera 12 September 2018 11: 02
            -5
            Alexander, well, since you are so procedurally prepared, tell me which particular inquiry agency should check this message, but for one thing, which is considered a message and in relation to whom ?! Excuse me, but who exactly should write a report on the detection of evidence of a crime? Can you tell us at the same time signs of corpus delicti or events? Perhaps you think that any statement by this gentleman said once and somewhere or transmitted from someone’s words should go through a similar procedural order ?! And why forgive worse Navalny, many, many haters of various power Russian structures on this site day and night blaming everyone and everyone ?! Absolutely no worse and what ?!
            So you accused me of not knowing the current Criminal Procedure Code ... And only showed your illiteracy in this matter! Article 306 about Navalny is crying! As soon as it comes and its "facts" are specifically stated in the appropriate structure, and immediately straight laughing naturally after checking. And so it is called slander. Would you consult with knowledgeable people or don’t respect the local audience before pulling articles from the Criminal Code and the Criminal Procedure Code? And also, comrade under the American flag, there is such a thing as judicial practice and precedent ... Heard ?! Well, so why go this easy and insignificant way? Bulk is much more than just a talker ...
            1. Faceless
              Faceless 12 September 2018 11: 31
              -9
              Dear Oper (Igor), I subscribe to every word and shake my hand. At least one expert in jurisprudence was found.
              1. Opera
                Opera 12 September 2018 16: 01
                -1
                Thanks, Faceless.
            2. victor50
              victor50 12 September 2018 12: 34
              +11
              Quote: Oper
              Excuse me, but who exactly should write a report on the detection of evidence of a crime? Can you tell us at the same time signs of corpus delicti or events? Perhaps you think that any statement by this gentleman said once and somewhere or transmitted from someone’s words should go through a similar procedural order ?!

              Like operas! One feels a hand full of abandoned women! And he knows how to convince of his innocence and impossibility to do otherwise! laughing And that there is no one left in the police - write a report? or upon the fact of a public statement, well, it’s not a matter of initiating, so the verification should begin? request
              1. SEER
                SEER 16 September 2018 16: 50
                0
                Quote: victor50
                Like operas! One feels a hand full of abandoned women!

                uhh !! I feel a real democrat! how hung the tags festively!
                Are you probably familiar with the "operas" or have you drunk on broodershaft?
                ugh ... disgusting with you
                1. victor50
                  victor50 17 September 2018 13: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: SEER
                  uhh !! I feel a real democrat! how hung the tags festively!
                  Are you probably familiar with the "operas" or have you drunk on broodershaft?
                  ugh ... disgusting with you

                  Democrat .. holiday? What did you want to say? Just show that you d .. cancer? Managed!
            3. Tibidokh
              Tibidokh 12 September 2018 13: 56
              +4
              Quote: Oper
              Who exactly should write a report on the detection of evidence of a crime?

              Any person authorized by that person (from the district police officer to the prosecutor). And after you transfer the materials of the audit for jurisdiction - Section 3, Part 1, Art. 145 Code of Criminal Procedure.
              Quote: Oper
              Can you tell us at the same time signs of corpus delicti or events?

              If you do not see the corpus delicti or see a different corpus delicti, share your opinion.
              Quote: Oper
              Perhaps you think that any statement by this gentleman said once and somewhere or transmitted from someone else’s words should go through a similar procedural order ?!

              The allegation of corruption in the Russian Guard ?! Of course not! No checks needed.
              Quote: Oper
              So you accused me of not knowing the current Code of Criminal Procedure ...

              You suggested that Navalny go to court, which could be funnier ... What will he go to court with? With an administrative statement? With a complaint about actions / inaction?
              In accordance with Part 3 of Art. 123 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, legal proceedings are carried out on the basis of the adversarial and equal rights of the parties; therefore, the court will not prove the presence / absence of corruption. This is the lot of law enforcement agencies, which must conduct verification of information about the crime.
              Quote: Oper
              Article 306 on Navalny cries!

              Dear Oper, do not disgrace ... Just like that under Art. 306 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation do not institute criminal proceedings. He is excited in the order of h. 2 tbsp. 148 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, that is, after a procedural audit of Navalny’s statement of a crime. No other way.
              Thus, you already decide on the following:
              Quote: Oper
              any statement of this master said once and somewhere, or transmitted from someone’s words, should undergo a similar procedural order ?!

              or all the same:
              Article 306 on Navalny cries!

              Let's move on to my personalities.
              comrade under the american flag

              Where did you see the American flag?
              Back to the LAW.
              Quote: Oper
              there is such a thing as judicial practice and precedent ... Heard ?!

              Why you mentioned the judicial practice is not entirely clear. As for the precedent, this is for you to "comrades under the American flag", this is their case law, and we have the principle of uniformity of judicial practice, i.e. officially the precedent is not a source of law (and the rulings of the Plenary Sessions of the Supreme Court and Reviews of Judicial Practice are not officially precedent generalizations).
              Quote: Oper
              Bulk is much more than just a talker ...

              YES WHO SAYS HE IS GOOD? In the furnace of it! The same crook as any aspiring to power!
              1. Opera
                Opera 12 September 2018 16: 48
                +2
                Dear comrade with a striped avatar, who can also turn out to be a decent person, I really would not want to deal with legal casuistry here and now, but you, as a more polite expression, do not consider yourself holy (in this context, of course, more knowledgeable) of the pope. If you are positioning yourself as a person who is knowledgeable in this problem, I would like to remind you of some incentives for civic activism, so to speak ... laughing And so - the protection by citizens and their associations of the interests of lawsuits in defense of groups and an indefinite circle of persons implies - lawsuits against authorities and local self-government ..., lawsuits challenging the legality of normative legal acts ... Claims to protect an indefinite circle of persons are provided for in Art. 46 Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation. ... citizens have the right to appeal to the court in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of an indefinite number of persons. There are other things, such as group suits ... We are talking about procurement of food for the military ... What do I mean, understand? Do not chew? Moreover, in addition to the court, we have a lot of government agencies ready to accept a statement from Navalny with material on corruption! Including the FSB! No? Won't that go?
                Quote: Tibidokh
                Dear Oper, do not disgrace ... Just like that under Art. 306 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation do not institute criminal proceedings. He is excited in the order of h. 2 tbsp. 148 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, that is, after a procedural audit of Navalny’s statement of a crime. No other way.

                What did I tell you about ?! laughing Are you okay? I will turn to you in the same way - do not disgrace! We are waiting for Navalny with a statement and material!
                Well, now a few words without a protocol. If you are a serious person, you should perfectly understand why and for what Navalny and the company regularly makes such stuffing and the like. Does this oblige him to something? What does he face in case of filing a lawsuit against him about protection of honor and dignity? Want to make a show? Get over it!
                1. Tibidokh
                  Tibidokh 12 September 2018 17: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: Oper
                  I will turn to you in the same way - do not disgrace!

                  I rub my hands ... wassat
                  Quote: Oper
                  Claims for the protection of an indefinite circle of persons are provided for by Article 46 of the Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation

                  We read.
                  Article 46. Appeal to the court in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of others.
                  1. In cases prescribed by law, state authorities, local governments, organizations or citizens have the right to apply to the court with a statement in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of others at their request, or in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of an indefinite number of persons. An application in defense of the legitimate interests of a legally incompetent or minor citizen in these cases may be submitted regardless of the request of the person concerned or his legal representative.

                  Thus, state authorities, local governments, organizations and citizens can file a lawsuit in defense of the rights of others only in cases provided for by the Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation, the IC of the Russian Federation and other laws. That is, if Navalny goes to court in the interests of the Russian Guard, then his claim will be left without consideration, as filed by a person not authorized to file a lawsuit.
                  CLARIFY: under Art. 46 Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation, you can file a lawsuit, for example, in the interests of a legally incompetent person (s) (you do not consider the guards to be such?), In the interests of an indefinite circle of consumers (the juice drunk by the guards is not the basis for a lawsuit lol ) etc.
                  Quote: Oper
                  We are talking about procurement of food for the military ...

                  NO! This is a corruption crime, not a violation of user rights.
                  Quote: Oper
                  Moreover, in addition to the court, we have a lot of government agencies ready to accept a statement from Navalny with material on corruption! Including the FSB! No? Won't that go?

                  So I’m talking about. An application for a crime is filed, at least in the FSB, at least in the UK. But not a lawsuit that you wrote about above.
                  Quote: Oper
                  Mr. Navalny does not want to go to court?

                  laughing
                  You brought the argument to an absurdity. An opera offering Navalny to go to court simply had to be convicted of ignorance of the law. Which I did. But I suggested contacting law enforcement agencies ... and not you!
                  Quote: Oper
                  We are waiting for Navalny with a statement and material!

                  No, well, here you have completely lost ground ... crying
                  Quote: Oper
                  If you are a serious person

                  No.
                  Quote: Oper
                  should understand why and for what Navalny

                  Yes, a demon to his rib, to this Bulk. It was still not enough that I, due to this parasite, quarreled with the forum users of the VO site that I respect.
                  As for me, so Navalny "would be taken out into a clear field, put face to the wall and put a bullet in the forehead." He is as much a crook as those in power ... he just is not in power yet.
                  Quote: Oper
                  What does he face in case of filing a lawsuit against him about protection of honor and dignity?

                  He is threatened by a judge whom / not chosen by the people, but appointed by decree of the political opponent of Navalny - Putin.

                  Dear Oper, do not be angry with me (do not start a case of operational accounting laughing ) Register a better report on the detection of evidence of a crime upon the fact of Navalny’s statement and send it to the TFR. lol Weak?
                  The fact that the people are not satisfied with law enforcers and lawmakers is normal.
                  My opinion is that as long as there is an outlet like Navalny, people will not take to the streets. Bulk allows people to let off steam, i.e. acts (knowingly or not) in the interests of the rulers.
                  The people, instead of stuffing in the elections, are now furiously discussing Navalny and Zolotov, which the rulers actually need.
            4. Yeah
              Yeah 13 September 2018 15: 47
              +1
              Quote: Oper
              And also, comrade under the American flag, there is such a thing as judicial practice and precedent ... Heard ?! Well, so why go on such an easy and insignificant path? Bulk is much more than just a talker ...
              we do not have a case-law, sued the city over garages (due to lack of money, some owners decided to file an application in groups of 5) - 1 satisfied the lawsuit, 2 half-and-half, 3 hacked (informally they decide to decide on a box of cognac question, but the chairman went to the principle of hell, not money).
          2. Egg
            Egg 12 September 2018 12: 02
            +4
            Quote: Tibidokh
            WEAKLY?

            blown away Opera, opera they are .. though not all :)
            1. Tibidokh
              Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 00
              0
              Quote: Telur
              though not all :)

              drinks
              Not everyone. The same Oper (Igor) may well be a decent person.
              It's just that in a dispute all means are good (unless they lead to a ban). wink
            2. Opera
              Opera 12 September 2018 16: 49
              0
              Above specifically for you about blown away!
              1. tasha
                tasha 12 September 2018 17: 17
                +6
                Eh, dear Oper. Read the comments carefully and you know what? I can't for all your opponents, but I hope that I understood the main reason for the indignation correctly and they will support me. Personally, I am at a loss that the Commander of the Russian Guard could not give a clear and reasonable answer to Mr. Navalny's statement about corruption and unreasonable overpricing of purchases, except "Who are you, come here, answer for the bazaar, I'll make a cutlet out of you ... ".. Is this the level of the highest command staff? For example, I looked at the documents mentioned in the previous article on procurement .. Some things are clear, but some are not ...

                What else .. You got under the distribution .. It happens winked
          3. hohkn
            hohkn 14 September 2018 14: 09
            +1
            Quote: Tibidokh
            institute criminal proceedings against Navalny under article 306 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (knowingly false denunciation)

            Will not work. Have you seen Navalny’s official statement in which he was warned of responsibility precisely for knowingly false denunciation? Legal consequences come? No. Accordingly, Navalny cannot be held responsible for this, therefore, no one will bring a criminal case. Read judicial practice.
        6. Deck
          Deck 12 September 2018 12: 24
          +11
          If the general is an official, then he must act according to the Law. If as a private citizen, then he can get in the face himself. And then he sits so sweet not in a dressing gown, but in general's epaulets, but touch it a little: oh, they beat off the enamel on my tooth with an orange peel, give me an apartment, dear judge, and a scoundrel for ten years! Familiar songs Comrade Oper? Sorry "mister officer" to write the hand does not rise. laughing
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 00
            +2
            Quote: Deck
            on my tooth enamel peeled from an orange

            And at execution!
        7. AUL
          AUL 12 September 2018 15: 26
          +4
          Quote: Oper
          The era of mercy still unfortunately has not arrived ... But everyone should be responsible for their actions.

          Uh ... but does this postulate concern Mr. Zolotov?
    2. aglet
      aglet 12 September 2018 07: 59
      +26
      and what, you do not advise to observe the current legislation? or not everyone, or not always? judging by your nickname, you are a former cop or current policeman. and they often abide by the laws when it is beneficial to them, but they demand strict observance of all the others and always. And the authorities can be fought without breaking the laws, so far it has left several small loopholes. I’m both bulk and Medvedev, I’m deeply divided, but the bulk of questions are asked to which the authorities answer either in the style of Zolotov — with public threats of physical violence, or in the style of Medvedev — including the fool’s regime
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 September 2018 08: 17
        +14
        Quote: aglet
        but he asks the bulk questions to which the government answers either in the Zolotov style — with public threats of physical violence, or in the Medvedev style — including the fool’s regime

        and there is a conclusion, maybe Navalny is right? When arguments end, fists go
      2. We_smart
        We_smart 12 September 2018 09: 10
        -2
        He is political
    3. Nehist
      Nehist 12 September 2018 08: 40
      +22
      Dear Oper! If you have been with the authorities for a long time then I will remind you about another General of the Army and the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, A. Kulikov a native of the way, not from the system, namely from the Army! So A.S. Kulikov had to defend the honor of his uniform and not only his own but also the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the courts and won. As far as I remember a symbolic fine of 1 ruble imposed on Zhirinovsky, the minister had the honor to transfer to the museum of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. (Although as Minister of the Interior, Kulikov was mediocre, since he was not from the system but a combat general)
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 12 September 2018 09: 05
        +7
        I apologize for the inaccuracy not of Zhirinovsky but of the ever-memorable General Lebed
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 12 September 2018 21: 01
        +2
        Nehist (Alexander)
        I remember in the 90s, as the head of the Main Internal Affairs Directorate of St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region, General A.V. Ponidelko. sued the leader of the Tambov organized criminal group Kumarin .. By LenTV Ponedelko A.The. called Kumarin a bandit and the fact that he would put him in jail. Kumarin filed a lawsuit for the protection of honor and dignity and won ... All of Peter laughed ... Ruined all the work, did a kind of "cleaning" of personnel ... So many guys, great specialists left ...
  23. user1212
    user1212 12 September 2018 07: 14
    -16
    About the "duel" he turned it down. In general, why not? A man should be responsible for his words. Recently, we have begun to forget about it, whole generations of forum idiots have grown up, who are absolutely sure that you will never have to answer for lies and insults. Not on the Internet or in real life. I, of course, understand that Navalny does not pull a man, but still.
    The permissiveness and impunity of the Internet is rooting the "woman's" mentality. Although it is not so much the Internet that is to blame as a "role model" in the form of all kinds of politicians. Take a look at the "world leaders", well, for sure showdowns of bazaar women in the communal kitchen
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 07: 36
      -8
      And you know - I categorically support you !! wink good He called himself a "real kid" - well, "show yourself" (whoever caught the "great, unforgettable 90s" at the age of older than primary school - knows what it means wink ) !! That's just ... It's because "Director of the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation - Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard of the Russian Federation" Comrade (or to Mr. - or already "their High Excellency" ?? lol ) to Army General Viktor V. Zolotov - also fully applies ... angry
      1. user1212
        user1212 12 September 2018 09: 08
        +7
        Quote: Sergey Goncharov
        He called himself a "real kid" - well, "show yourself" (whoever caught the "great, unforgettable 90s" at the age of older than primary school - knows what that means) !!

        Well, here's another example. You were not even taught to distinguish such words as "man" and "boy" either in childhood or in the army
        1. Sergey Goncharov
          Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 10: 11
          -2
          Well - why ?? smile Man not must be a "kid". But "boy" - in any case, he must be a man. Least. "All fools are poets. But not all poets are fools" (C) - do you know... smile smile
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 12 September 2018 09: 46
      +5
      Those. Do you really want to transfer the traditions of the Wild West of the 2000th century to 19? Or our beginnings of the 20s? Well, so that everyone goes with Kolts or cut-offs like ours? We dismiss the police? Courts too? Why are they, when everyone has Colt. God created man, and Colonel Colt made of equals .... So?
      1. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 10: 46
        -1
        Well, as a BE - in my unhappy country - I had such an episode as recently as last year. I went on May 9 to lay flowers at the Monument to the Soldiers of the Student Battalions (there is one in Kiev in the Academgorodok of the National Agrarian University). He put on - as usual - a T-shirt with the emblem of the USSR (which has been banned for some time now). Since it is forbidden - and at the same time there are enough "proactive vigilant citizens" - I also put on - as I have been doing since 2014 - a tactical holster. No empty by no means. AND not equipped with a revolver for "Flaubert's cartridge" of some kind - and equipped with a revolver for slightly different cartridges. smile Did not help. Or rather, it didn't quite help. A police squad was summoned by the "initiative citizens". Well - talked to the outfit of those. Calmly, politely, with the most amiable smile, even in a pure "stately move". But - putting my left hand (I'm left-handed) on the handle of my U-94S. ChSKh - the National Police outfit preferred to "go about their own business" - as I strongly recommended to him in the most amiable (no irony!) Way. I believe - in a relationship self-respecting a citizen with the police or other "National Guard" - this is the most correct format. That in my country, that in Russia, that in any other country. Because the "internal security forces" must know their place. Something - near the famous "household appliance" in a famous place ... soldier
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 12 September 2018 12: 49
          +7
          But what, is Ukraine already free to carry short-barreled weapons? Or are there no laws already in force? What do you brag about? Have you broken the law twice? Put on a T-shirt with forbidden symbols (I don’t discuss its correctness now, but nobody asked my opinion) and brought at a social event weapon. And the law enforcement agencies were supposed to write you a fine. And you fought back with a weapon. Is this a right-wing state? Are you calling for it? Who has Colt more and is right? Yes, minus is not mine.
          1. Sergey Goncharov
            Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 14: 08
            +1
            Of course not - officially not free. smile And the laws - nominally act. smile But - I always believed (and before the coup of 2014 - and in 2004, and in 1994 and earlier - and now) - and practically adhered to this rule - that A Self-respecting Person will NOT automatically comply with the requirements of regulations (the Constitution, Laws, Resolutions of the Cabinet of Ministers, etc.), decisions of courts, orders of chiefs, etc. - only on the basis that they "entered into force". A self-respecting person always first checks whether these normative acts, etc., correspond to his interests, rules and principles ?? Moreover - if you can often give up your interests, and sometimes make an exception to the rules, then principles - you should never compromise. And if the state, society, etc., intends to force you to give up your principles - it must "be presented" in kind "-" given to the mountain " persuasive evidence that can make you do this. I repeat again - I just respect myself enough. For example, I, frankly speaking, absolutely do not understand - if in Russia you really do not like the pension reform so much, as it seems to follow from the polls of VTsIOM - why do not you demolish your power ?? Indeed, even in front of 10 million resolutely minded people. not even Rosgvardia can stand on the streets! And if you are ready to "suffer" for the sake of some "higher goals" (which I think is quite understandable and justified) - why the hell are you indignant then ?? Either a Free Citizen delegates some power to the State - or - He does it not delegates! But in both cases, he must be ready to be responsible for his actions. Something like this...
            And - I am all this I don’t boast at all.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 12 September 2018 20: 01
              +1
              Quote: Sergey Goncharov
              Of course not - officially not free. smile And the laws - nominally act. smile But - I always believed (and before the coup of 2014 - and in 2004, and in 1994 and earlier - and now) - and practically adhered to this rule - that A Self-respecting Person will NOT automatically comply with the requirements of regulations (the Constitution, Laws, Resolutions of the Cabinet of Ministers, etc.), decisions of courts, orders of chiefs, etc. - only on the basis that they "entered into force". A self-respecting person always first checks whether these normative acts, etc., correspond to his interests, rules and principles ?? Moreover - if you can often give up your interests, and sometimes make an exception to the rules, then principles - you should never compromise. And if the state, society, etc., intends to force you to give up your principles - it must "be presented" in kind "-" given to the mountain " persuasive evidence that can make you do this. I repeat again - I just respect myself enough. For example, I, frankly speaking, absolutely do not understand - if in Russia you really do not like the pension reform so much, as it seems to follow from the polls of VTsIOM - why do not you demolish your power ?? Indeed, even in front of 10 million resolutely minded people. not even Rosgvardia can stand on the streets! And if you are ready to "suffer" for the sake of some "higher goals" (which I think is quite understandable and justified) - why the hell are you indignant then ?? Either a Free Citizen delegates some power to the State - or - He does it not delegates! But in both cases, he must be ready to be responsible for his actions. Something like this...
              And - I am all this I don’t boast at all.

              Aw, kid! good
    3. Revival
      Revival 12 September 2018 13: 09
      +6
      That is, since all of us are equal, then any official can beat his face if he lied?
  24. Clueless
    Clueless 12 September 2018 07: 23
    +24
    At the expense of duels - Duel has always been held between those who can shoot. For dueling on fists - always demoted from the army. Dueling was not carried out in those cases when the second opponent does not know how to shoot, and this one, dressed in uniform, causes a fight to the one who does not know how to fight - it is necessary to drive such ministers.
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 07: 52
      -2
      Strictly speaking, your statement is completely wrong. Even according to the "Rules for the Investigation of Quarrels Occurring in the Officers' Environment", approved by the Ministry of War of the Russian Empire - a duel not necessarily carried out on firearms. Although really - duels not on firearms happened very, very rarely.
      1. pormezan
        pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 37
        +4
        Zolotov is a thief and the "duel" should take place in court between Zolotov's lawyer and the prosecutor.
  25. Conductor
    Conductor 12 September 2018 07: 24
    +8
    To give them for a duel a bag of rotten tomatoes and let them throw at each other, they did not deserve the best weapons.
  26. aglet
    aglet 12 September 2018 07: 45
    +23
    and what, the Russian Guard was created for this, to protect the authorities from the people by any means. they will begin with the bulk. if they don’t give hand, they will continue on us. and about the fact that this gold is commanding something, these are speculations of spiteful critics - the Rosguard was given to him to feed, like Miler-gas, Sechin-oil, Medvedev-everything else. and they will defend their feeder with all proletarian hatred
  27. Ber
    Ber 12 September 2018 07: 47
    -3
    But today we are about Zolotov. Since there was a publication that Navalny really made the leadership of the Rosguard, we will continue.


    Here dddd ... fools, it's a pity the filter will not miss another word, compared ...... with a finger, politics and military laughing This is from the category of teenage thinking grown on American education, we are victims of the EG, such as who is stronger than the Predator or the Alien ....
  28. Conductor
    Conductor 12 September 2018 07: 49
    +6
    Or maybe it's just a Kremlin fake? Distracted by the fool general?
  29. Colonel
    Colonel 12 September 2018 07: 50
    -30
    How many fans on the site of Navalny. I am surprised. And Skororokhov, at the head, is no longer surprised.
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 08: 03
      +14
      Distort please. The site probably would appear - even in spite of his (site's) "patriotic orientation" - "Navalny's lovers", if the aforementioned Navalny did accept the challenge ... And so - everything is just slightly (well - or not slightly lol ) joke about "glavzhandarmo-VOKHRA of All Russia" laughing laughing
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 12 September 2018 08: 21
      +20
      Quote: colonel
      How many fans on the site of Navalny.

      how many decent people on the site who are already tired of the tales of the leader and the unsuitability of his proteges
      Quote: colonel
      Surprised

      me not
      therefore I am not surprised at this either
      Quote: colonel
      And Skororokhov, at the head, is no longer surprised.

      it makes you sick
      1. Colonel
        Colonel 12 September 2018 12: 59
        -10
        Quote: Silvestr
        how many decent people on the site

        What is your decency criterion? The ability to spit in the direction of the authorities with impunity? Where do you see the above-mentioned general's professional unsuitability? In this awkward performance of his? Yes, if the speech is taken for "one Psaki", then the comments of all fans of the "rule of law" will pull at least 250 Psaki. Not a single sensible comment, only saliva with bile in half. Or the conclusion about the main "Russian Guard" was made on the basis of the statements of the same Navalny? Then why take offense at "amateurs" and hide behind "decency"? Well, about the "fairy tales". Be that as it may, the country lives and develops, not without negative, the stump is clear. You are an adult (in my opinion) person, but you are being fooled by the same crap that every schoolboy is greedy for, like the pormezana present here. Is it really not clear that development is by no means a constant straight forward movement. Of course, the GDP is playing its own, not always understandable game, of course it is not omnipotent and must make compromises, but the country lives and does not survive, and this is the main thing.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 12 September 2018 20: 38
          +3
          Quote: colonel
          What do you see as the unsuitability of the aforementioned general?

          this general is a representative of a galaxy of managers like Mutko
          Quote: colonel
          the conclusion about the main "Russian Guard" made on the basis of statements by the same Navalny?

          based on the tone of his speech
          Quote: colonel
          You’re an adult (in my opinion) a person, and you’re being led to the same crap that all shkolota is greedy for, like the pormezana present here

          I think in essence. Slander Navalny- drag him to court. And then the head of the UK takes the journalist out into the forest and promises to kill quietly, the general promises to turn a citizen of the country into a cutlet. Is that normal?
          Quote: colonel
          and must compromise,

          with whom? With such generals, Mutki? And why does he not compromise with the people?
          Quote: colonel
          but the country lives, not survives, and this is the main thing

          who lives understandably and who survives, too. 18 million survives (Golodets, Golikova) - is it a lot or a little
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 12 September 2018 08: 35
      +21
      Quote: colonel
      How many fans on the site of Navalny. I am surprised.

      Not at all. Not lovers of Lehi Navalny, but a discussion of the thoughts of the unfortunate general, the whole commander of the National Guard, who promises to make a cutlet, and no matter from whom.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 12 September 2018 09: 50
        +20
        And we laughed at the Kiev mayor .... And then we ourselves are full of such!
    4. Conductor
      Conductor 12 September 2018 09: 39
      +14
      Lovers? Rather, it’s people who are tired of seeing and hearing the next stupidity of the sales of the best friend of the Siberian Cranes.
    5. pormezan
      pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 39
      +11
      We are not "lovers of Navalny", we are opponents of embezzlement, stupidity, rudeness, and bastardy with rasping. We are for the LEGAL state.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 12 September 2018 20: 11
        -1
        Quote: pormezan
        We are not "lovers of Navalny", we are opponents of embezzlement, stupidity, rudeness, and bastardy with rasping. We are for the LEGAL state.

        The capital state cannot be legal in principle. Well, that is, it may look like that until someone touches the interests of those in power, as in this case, for example laughing
    6. Revival
      Revival 12 September 2018 13: 11
      +6
      There are no lovers of Navalny, but people who are not given answers to the questions posed, to which they are obliged to answer
  30. aglet
    aglet 12 September 2018 08: 03
    +17
    Quote: Lexus
    If the moron isn’t removed within a week ... I'm afraid that everything is really bad with us

    who will take it off? who appointed? and in reality everything is bad with us. it's only too late to be afraid
  31. BVS
    BVS 12 September 2018 08: 06
    +14
    Class! Great article. Simply true, especially about the "army officer" Zolotov.
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 12 September 2018 09: 07
      +26
      Zolotov showed himself as an abrek who descended from the mountains. To a claim in his direction he answered by the type - "Eeeee, let's go out Adyn to Adyn." I tebe now break my jaw and, in general, I'm your mom ....... "
      If he were an ordinary citizen, this is one thing, but when in such a position, but to the public, it’s just a MISSION for himself and for the one who put him in this place.
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    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 08: 48
      +12
      Well - not everyone can be "professional and anti-liberal mongrels on a solid salary" ... laughing laughing
      Although - to me personally, for example, Mr. Navalny not pretty by no means - for weak !! No.
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 12 September 2018 09: 40
      +4
      Well, in fact, you roar like Leo.
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 31
        +1
        Quote: Conductor
        growl like a lion.

        Shhhh! Do you hear brutal meow?
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 12 September 2018 14: 46
          +2
          why is the meow moving away towards the Spasskaya Tower?
          1. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 12 September 2018 15: 06
            +1
            Feeding time has come.
    3. pormezan
      pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 40
      +4
      And on the fact of the embezzlement of Zolotov you can object something concrete? Or are you even unfamiliar with the case and evidence base?
    4. Revival
      Revival 12 September 2018 13: 13
      +2
      Keep yourself in control, and the impression is that you are either a hamlo or a provocateur
    5. rruvim
      rruvim 12 September 2018 23: 03
      +1
      We have all the government liberals. Have you noticed ???
  33. Li17
    Li17 12 September 2018 08: 41
    +19
    no offense, I myself have a title, but still ... The right saying is army - the product of the mind on the title is a constant value! Well, my observation, when appointing to the posts, one of the main criteria is the ability to be faithful and obedient! Well, it’s good to still be in kindred with the corresponding rank!
    1. kakvastam
      kakvastam 12 September 2018 11: 44
      +2
      Quote: lithium17
      the product of the mind on the title is a constant value!

      Still, "knowledge for the title", to be precise.
      1. Li17
        Li17 13 September 2018 06: 47
        0
        I don’t argue who is comfortable. But in this case there’s just no mind (count ...), although knowledge may have been given at the academy, but the mind is at the level of a teenage street gopota!
    2. victor50
      victor50 12 September 2018 13: 09
      +4
      Quote: lithium17
      Well, my observation, when appointing to the posts, one of the main criteria is the ability to be faithful and obedient!

      Now, at the same time, they also take an oath of allegiance and loyalty to a superior boss! smile Think - ironic? No Unfortunately! sad
  34. Charik
    Charik 12 September 2018 08: 42
    +12
    ha Naval hooked a peasant and he took roofing felts out of fear or because of permissiveness and started talking nonsense, I won’t be surprised if it later turned out to be like that and we didn’t know then the factory director and they gave him a hero
  35. Cananecat
    Cananecat 12 September 2018 08: 45
    +9
    I will support both Opera and Skomorokhov ...
    I will support the opera in that the lie must be punished according to the law of the state in which we live. Those. if you want satisfaction, welcome to the court with evidence of Mr. Navalny’s lies.
    I will support Roman in the fact that Mr. / T-sh the General is not right in his verbiage. For prove your truth in court, and then just invite to the ring "like a kid" for the scorn, but without pathos about duels and any excuses. The man said, the man did. Those. reduce the likelihood of freezing stupidity, over which then the floor of Russia will laugh.
  36. Loess
    Loess 12 September 2018 08: 55
    -19
    Mdya ... The analytics section clearly needs "fresh blood". For in this section I would like to see analytics. In general, the editorial board of VO can be congratulated. Not everyone is capable of bringing up so much hatred of a person in uniform in commentators "MILITARY review ".
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 09: 08
      +9
      There was such a wonderful Soviet Russian writer and veteran of the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet people of 1941-1945. - Victor Platonovich Nekrasov. With him - for example, in the great "In the trenches of Stalingrad" - you can read some pretty critical reviews of people who "unfairly consider themselves to be of the military class" - despite the presence of "gold epaulettes" on their shoulders, and stripes on uniform pants beautiful ... negative
    2. BAI
      BAI 12 September 2018 09: 30
      +3
      And what about uniforms only angels in trousers?
    3. Conductor
      Conductor 12 September 2018 09: 44
      +4
      How respectful I have to those who are in uniform, but who fought in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Syria, who drags service both in combat units and headquarters and in the rear, who do business in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, but Tabaka has no respect.
      1. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 35
        0
        I have respect for those who fought, who drags the service and who in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB do business

        there is no respect for tobacco

        I applaud while standing! drinks
    4. victor50
      victor50 12 September 2018 13: 11
      +7
      Quote: Less
      To raise in the commentators so much hatred of the person in uniform

      Or maybe the epaulettes got the wrong person? Something is not heard about the military past.
  37. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 12 September 2018 08: 58
    +15
    Lord !!!!!!!!!! Which !!!!!!!! and these people lead us, how loud because of such things everything can collapse !!!!!!!!
  38. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 12 September 2018 08: 59
    +11
    I don’t understand why the system blocks the word. And D & OT is that already considered obscene !!!!!!!!!!
    1. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 09: 31
      +4
      This is "not politically correct" !! laughing
    2. kakvastam
      kakvastam 12 September 2018 11: 41
      +2
      That's for sure, they would just add "(prohibited on the VO site)", or at least score with asterisks.
      However, after all the innovations (banned on the VO site), this is not the most tedious one.
  39. Larum
    Larum 12 September 2018 09: 13
    +8
    Yeah, shoot.
    Naive.
    Rather, a couple of unidentified persons (whom they do not seem to know by name) will again be smeared with brilliant green, chemistry and sip with trumpets / clubs.
    In a patriotic impulse.
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  41. BAI
    BAI 12 September 2018 09: 28
    +13
    The French have a good saying: "What is the master, such is the servant."

    If the guarantor of the constitution, violating the law, calls on the election day to vote for the current mayor of Moscow, then what to expect from the servants?
    Well and then - the author, as always, does not want to read the source. Navalny’s publication was dedicated to the fact that the plant belongs to circles close to Medvedev. And the hitting was on Medvedev, the Russian Guard was the reason for the hitting, and the purpose of the hitting was Medvedev.
  42. The Sparkle
    The Sparkle 12 September 2018 09: 33
    -13
    And no one noticed that Navalny has repeatedly breached, but never sues? Because all his allegations end up being a lie! And if our officials sue him every time - when will they work? Zolotov is a real man and sits in his place. And does everything right. It’s time for grantosos to explain their place!
    1. Li17
      Li17 12 September 2018 09: 42
      +10
      Bulk is no one by and large, and drawing attention to himself is the main thing for him. And now to ours ... When people of state rank fall to the level of bazaar women, it's disgusting. Zhirinovsky, by the way, staged a clownery (he also made himself a general, by the way!), Well, this one is fine, without him, like in a village without a fool, and jesters with kings, by the way, had weight. But here is the general, they say that "combat" ... !!!!! General Lebed was right when he was asked about the Cossack "general" and he replied - was he a warrant officer in the army? So, he put on his uniform, but remained the ensign!
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 12 September 2018 09: 46
      +4
      Do you have documented evidence of Navalny receiving grants from Amer or someone else *?
    3. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 09: 55
      +2
      Well - like BE ... winked See e.g.

      Moreover, ChSH, Mr. Navalny (which - I repeat - IMHO, wimp) actually is not obliged to to sue. But yes - Mr. Zolotov (and not only him) is still very lucky that Mr. Navalny is a typical "grant-eater" / "grant-sucker", perfectly aware of and scrupulously observing the "unwritten rules of the game." Otherwise, there would be a counter challenge to a duel in the format "muzzle to muzzle" - and then I would look with great interest - yes, I am sure, and not only me - at Mr. Zolotov "strongly on show-off, as on hinges, cool". The bullet - she is a "fool" - as the Most Serene Prince Generalissimo of the Russian Land and Naval Forces Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov wisely taught. soldier
    4. Egg
      Egg 12 September 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Flame
      Because all his allegations end up being a lie!

      It would be a lie long ago planted for slander, to the maximum, and so 15 days off.
      They would be brought to trial, and there you look and the accused would change, but they need it? it’s better to plant it for 15 days, with or without reason.
    5. Revival
      Revival 12 September 2018 13: 17
      +3
      And what do our officials personally go to court to sue from cases?
  43. Himdym
    Himdym 12 September 2018 09: 47
    +3
    In general, a dual sensation. On the one hand, such things in modern society should be resolved in the legal field, but if this does not happen, then it means either a stigma in the cannon, or problems with the judicial system (which I personally would not want to believe in). In general, I personally have questions for both sides of this clownery: Mr. Navalny, if you have conclusive evidence, where is your statement to the investigating authorities and the Audit Chamber? Well, to Mr. Zolotov the question is: if you feel slandered, where is the lawsuit for the protection of honor and dignity?
    On the other hand, I would have looked at Navalny vs Zolotov mixfight live. laughing
    Now about personnel issues. I believe that the principle of appointment that has been practiced for 15 years, when the same people only change their positions, is the right way to stagnation in management, why be surprised?
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 39
      +1
      Quote: Himdym
      mixfight Navalny vs Zolotov I would look live

      Advertising during the break would be worth a billion $ per second!
  44. Alex66
    Alex66 12 September 2018 09: 57
    +7
    I have always believed that our opposition uses the stupidity and greed of our power, because it doesn’t even have to invent anything, the authorities make up so many nonsense, just have time to dunk it in them like a kitten. They didn’t have enough soul to go to court, I saw the same nonsense, but please PR. Medvedev could have piled on the same for Navalny for the movie, but decided to simply ignore it.
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 12 September 2018 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: Alex66
      Medvedev could have piled on Navalny

      1. slaventi
        slaventi 13 September 2018 03: 46
        -2

        This is no longer mortal kombat
  45. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 September 2018 09: 57
    +9
    It’s time to resign such gold so as not to dishonor the Armed Forces. Here, let him understand Alyosha. Not a general, but a hysterical woman.
    1. military pensioner
      military pensioner 12 September 2018 10: 08
      +1
      Do not confuse Putin's secret police with the Armed Forces.
      Shoigu and in a dream could not dream of such a disgrace.
      1. BVS
        BVS 12 September 2018 10: 57
        +17
        And that Mr. Shoigu is an army officer? Could you tell me in what parts this gentleman was pulling a lieutenant service, for this is unknown to me?
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 12 September 2018 15: 11
        +2
        I understand your dissatisfaction, but excuse aliens for the Rosguard or were these former military men who, by the way, fought along with purely military men under bullets in Chechnya. Well, what a divide, we live in one country, in principle, we serve one thing. If we can’t live normally with each other, everything is measured, with whom it is longer, then how are we with the same crests to be, everyone’s root?
    2. T62
      T62 12 September 2018 14: 49
      +3
      "Such gold" is not the Armed Forces, as mentioned above. There are enough of their own m ... weirdos, but the Armed Forces have not yet reached such stupidity. Apparently in the Armed Forces, they do not bring them to the "tower" as often as they do in training in the guards.
  46. Radikal
    Radikal 12 September 2018 10: 01
    +13
    Apparently, we still have a lot of interesting surprises from the team of our president. And this confirms that we have problems with personnel in the higher echelons of power. Very big problems. And they will primarily affect us.
    ... The problems are not just with personnel, but with the "echelon of power" itself! sad
  47. military pensioner
    military pensioner 12 September 2018 10: 07
    +7
    A whole general, but he behaves like a kid in a kindergarten: "And I have more writing!"
    Ugh, disgusting even to read ... winked
  48. pormezan
    pormezan 12 September 2018 10: 11
    +24
    It's a circus! General Zolotov and his subordinates are reasonably accused of embezzlement, and in his head there is a "crunch of French buns" and midshipmen with musketeers. And THIS is in charge of the Russian Guard ?! What are the rank-and-file Rosguards in the intellectual sense ?!
    1. BAI
      BAI 12 September 2018 10: 57
      +1
      General Zolotov and his subordinates are reasonably accused of embezzlement

      What embezzlement? Rosguard fulfills the order of the government, purchasing from a single supplier, defined by the government. Can not fail!
      1. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 13: 14
        +6
        Let's say. crying The High Command and the Rosgvardia headquarters do not have enough time to report to the Government about the supplier's overpricing ?? And if this time is still not enough - why?
      2. Henderson
        Henderson 12 September 2018 14: 50
        +3
        Quote: BAI
        Rosguard fulfills the order of the government, purchasing from a single supplier, defined by the government.

        "we were only following orders." Old bike.
  49. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 12 September 2018 10: 12
    -5
    I am not a supporter of VVP, Zolotov, all these liberals, but a man, a normal MAN should be responsible for his words, but earlier they beat people in the face for the "bazaar" and called them to a duel. And that the peasants have died, the buffoons here write about the laws, their implementation, but all these liberals whom you defend are also breaking the law, like some not the best representatives of the authorities, there are a lot of examples, but at least the 90s showed the true face of liberals of all stripes, when EBNets died out from 4 to 6 million CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, where were the liberals and why they were silent, but because they were allowed to divide and receive money, but now this is not. But if YOU man, answer or just stick your tongue in the ass ....
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    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 12 September 2018 14: 05
      +6
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      normal man should be responsible for his words,

      and who will be responsible for the affairs, documents for corrupt cases are presented, Zolotov went to the person fellow
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 12 September 2018 14: 46
      +8
      , yes, at least the 90s showed the true face of liberals of all stripes, from EBNets died from 4 to 6 million. CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, but do not tell me who opens the centers named after EBN? Who took the daughter of this reptile as advisers?
    4. victor50
      victor50 12 September 2018 16: 11
      +3
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      where were and why the liberals were silent, but because they were allowed to share and received money, but now this is not

      Right !!! laughing Chubais is begging, Skolkovo produces "unparalleled", Serdyukov raised his army to an unattainable level !!!! Kapets of corruption !!! The feeders were closed !!! request
  50. Radikal
    Radikal 12 September 2018 10: 14
    +11
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Stas157
    And they all learned that a man called to command an entire army (Rosguard) of 340 thousand bayonets, and to be a defender, not only was involved in theft,.

    Not like that: its only accused in theft, and he- accused the applicant of lies. Has the right to! Does he need to be silent?
    Who is telling the truth is still unknown. Bulk, for example, has already lied a lot (the court established, if that)
    Quote: Stas157
    it also threatens any reprisals who doubt its honesty.

    Вызов "on the ring, on the tatami"is .... a threat of reprisal? What is she doing? belay

    author -In the officer community, Mr. Zolotov, in spite of the general uniform, would not be considered an officer and would not be allowed into the Assembly. For the Russian Guard, who left the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which, in turn, became successors Gendarme corps.

    The gendarmes, I'm sorry, never were considered officers. Under no king.

    Gendarmes Corps - a separate special purpose building Russian imperial army
    , i.e. was part of it. And there were officers in the army.



    Gendarmes Corps. Headquarters-the officer in full dress Chief Officer in a frock coat and a non-commissioned officer in full dress and ordinary uniform.

    Unjustified cruelty.

    Are there really few examples of Rigidity on the Maidan in the neighboring Ruin? request

    How is the weather in Olgino not blowing? Wages for knocking on the clave in defense of the authorities did not raise? wassat tongue
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 12 September 2018 10: 42
      +3
      Quote: Radikal
      Who is telling the truth is still unknown. Bulk, for example, has already lied a lot (the court established, if that)

      If the court established that Navalny was lying, then why does this continue? after all, for relapse of crimes more severe punishment is provided? Why doesn’t it work legally? or bulk part of the system? or above her?
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 12 September 2018 14: 57
        +2
        Or maybe everything is simple - Navalny told the truth.
    2. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 12 September 2018 12: 57
      +2
      According to the inspector, combatant and economic units, the Separate Gendarme Corps was indeed subordinate to the Ministry of War of the Russian Empire. However - for the combat officer of the Russian Army and the Russian Imperial Navy was considered the greatest and indelible disgrace angry have anything to do with the "noble cause of investigation". Such gentlemen were simply not given hands - although the career in the Separate Gendarme Corps was much easier and the salaries in the Corps were much higher.