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Under the Vostochny cosmodrome found voids

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In the ground under the launch vehicle complex "Soyuz-2" at the Eastern technical center, the technical personnel discovered voids, RIA News.



In the documentation published on the website of public procurement, it is reported that the voids were found under the reinforced concrete base of the special path of the mobile tower serving the number one structure of the launch complex of the Soyuz-2 rocket.

Roscosmos Corporation has already entered into a contract for the elimination of voids. The cost of work is estimated at 4,6 million rubles. Their performer is the Adonis company from Blagoveshchensk. The customer was the Roscosmos Center for the operation of ground-based space infrastructure facilities. The contract was signed last week.

Recall, the Vostochny cosmodrome is being built from the 2012 year near the town of Tsiolkovsky (the former village of Uglegorsk) in the Amur Region. The site will become the first domestic spaceport for civilian use and will provide the country with independent access to outer space.

The first launch from the spaceport took place at the end of April 2016. The second - in November 2017 of the year (it was declared unsuccessful - the rocket failed to put the satellite into orbit due to a problem in the algorithm). The third (successful) launch took place in February of this year.
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  1. Bykov.
    Bykov. 10 September 2018 09: 56
    +6
    Ohhh !!!
    Moles?
    1. figwam
      figwam 10 September 2018 10: 45
      +19
      Under the Vostochny cosmodrome found voids

      So this is where the money went.
      1. electrooleg
        electrooleg 10 September 2018 12: 15
        +13
        Extra voids found in officials' pockets laughing
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 10 September 2018 14: 00
          +1
          And you can't say "NATO is to blame."
          This time exclusively Russian headache. After all, a georadar catches such a thing at once, really it was impossible to scan in advance the site.
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 10 September 2018 17: 39
            +4
            A naive person, this natural miracle was left to pump the next millions, that is, to cut ... Look at the criminal cases for billions and more than one company, under the successful leadership of the manager of all trades Rogozin after the delivery of "Vostochny". Rogozin didn't even get a hair's breadth for these billion-dollar thefts under his leadership ...
      2. Fox
        Fox 11 September 2018 07: 32
        0
        Quote: figvam
        So this is where the money went.

        no, it’s now THERE they will disappear ... and the first installment is indicated.
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 10 September 2018 11: 13
      +19
      Quote: Bulls.
      Ohhh !!!
      Moles?

      Not ah, the gnomes heard about the "golden cosmodrome" and decided to have their share laughing
    3. venik
      venik 10 September 2018 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: Bulls.
      Moles?

      =======
      Rather "beavers"!!!!
      PS Who does not remember - in Soviet times, state officials were called "beavers" for their addiction to winter hats made of beaver fur .....
    4. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 10 September 2018 22: 22
      0
      Quote: Bulls.
      Ohhh !!!
      Moles?

      Bear!
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 September 2018 09: 56
    +15
    Under the Vostochny cosmodrome found voids
    And who did this ??? laughing
    The cost of work is estimated at 4,6 million rubles.
    Judging by the price of eliminating it, it’s not very sad to drill concrete and pump concrete there. For top managers of bullshit. It could be worse. bully
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 September 2018 09: 57
      +6
      Quote: Observer2014
      Under the Vostochny cosmodrome found voids
      And who did this ??? laughing

      I can say for sure that it’s not me.
    2. Dashout
      Dashout 10 September 2018 10: 09
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      Under the Vostochny cosmodrome found voids
      And who did this ??? laughing
      The cost of work is estimated at 4,6 million rubles.
      Judging by the price of eliminating it, it’s not very sad to drill concrete and pump concrete there. For top managers of bullshit. It could be worse. bully

      I completely agree! The journalistic duck!
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 10 September 2018 11: 09
        +4
        Quote: Dashout
        I completely agree! The journalistic duck!

        And I don’t believe something. Otherwise, it is necessary to put surveyors to the wall.
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 10 September 2018 14: 18
          +3
          Krasnoyarsk
          And I don’t believe something. Otherwise, it is necessary to put surveyors to the wall.
          laughing wassat good For 4.6 lyama rubles ????! lol No, you obviously live in Ukraine laughing
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 September 2018 11: 27
      +4
      Not even now under these voids, they will find another, 400 million so - to fix it.
    4. kit88
      kit88 10 September 2018 12: 31
      +2
      The top manager will raise his ass from the estimate of a billion. A couple of million rubles is the work for the superintendent Ivan Ivanovich.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 September 2018 15: 05
        0
        Can you imagine what will happen if oil is found in these cavities, under the cosmodromes.
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 10 September 2018 09: 56
    +6
    Money spent, now a lot will be gradually found ..
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 September 2018 09: 59
      -1
      Quote: Svarog
      Money spent, now a lot will be gradually found ..

      Began! ... it would be better if they gave it to pensioners.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 10 September 2018 10: 02
        +6
        Bykov.
        "It's begun! ... it would be better if they gave it to pensioners." Nobody will give anything to anyone anymore.)))) But take it please. ))))
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 10 September 2018 10: 05
          +6
          Quote: Nagaibak

          But please pick up. ))))


          What should be taken from the proletariat? Apart from his fetters, he shouldn’t have anything ... read Marx .. Lenin ..
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 10 September 2018 20: 59
            -1
            NasRat "He shouldn't have anything but his shackles ... read Marx .. Lenin." Do you literally understand everything?)))) Then why read something at all?))) 8 hour working day can be taken away. Paid vacations and much more. pension reform is just the beginning.))) What shackles are you trying to tell me about?)))
        2. Bykov.
          Bykov. 10 September 2018 10: 09
          +2
          Quote: Nagaibak
          "Nobody will give anything to anyone.)))) But please take it.))))

          They will give, they will give ... then they will catch up and still give.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 September 2018 10: 09
        +9
        Bykov. (Alexey Bykov)
        Began! ... it would be better if they gave it to pensioners.
        Why did it start? Continues. And this amount to 40 pensioners without the genocide of other citizens to pay a pension for 20000 a year. By adding this money to their pensions.
      3. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 10 September 2018 10: 34
        -2
        According to the severity of the training manual it is clear that the working day at the Kremlin boats has already begun laughing
  4. spirit
    spirit 10 September 2018 10: 00
    +3
    Trump with Mask personally dug a dig laughing
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 10 September 2018 10: 02
      +10
      Quote: spirit
      Trump with Mask personally dug a dig laughing

      And our liberals dragged the soil laughing
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 10 September 2018 10: 09
        +4
        It is this ground of our liberals that will one day be hidden. wassat
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 10 September 2018 10: 17
          +2
          Quote: bessmertniy
          It is this ground of our liberals that will one day be hidden. wassat

          Poor liberals laughing and they’ll fly at the spaceport too.
        2. freejack
          freejack 10 September 2018 22: 24
          0
          liberals one day and hide

          I love killer humor, even if it is slightly black ... laughing good
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 September 2018 10: 07
      +17
      photo proof.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 10 September 2018 10: 36
        0
        Quote: Bulls.
        photo proof.

        Why in the mourning frame ?! Or is he instead of a lady with a scythe?

        Is she probably on vacation?
        1. Alekseits
          Alekseits 10 September 2018 10: 55
          +4
          A lady with a scythe is now busy with elections in Ukraine. He marks for president. laughing
  5. Funnels
    Funnels 10 September 2018 10: 01
    +9
    Recently, the news was that for the APU an underground training ground is being made. Likely to East have grown.
    But seriously, where did you look at the construction?
    1. udincev
      udincev 10 September 2018 10: 21
      +6
      Quote: Funnels
      But seriously, where did you look at the construction?

      Mistake in the appetite of sawflies at the design stage?
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 September 2018 10: 27
        +1
        Quote: udincev
        Quote: Funnels
        But seriously, where did you look at the construction?

        Mistake in the appetite of sawflies?
        -that is, unambiguously soil movements, groundwater leaching, tectonic shrinkage and others NATURAL Do you knowingly exclude cataclysms? Oh well...
        1. udincev
          udincev 10 September 2018 10: 36
          +12
          Quote: your1970
          Do you knowingly exclude other NATURAL disasters?
          It is not excluded. Then what is the quality of design and survey work? I do not exclude a "cataclysm of corruption" in the design process.
          1. your1970
            your1970 10 September 2018 14: 28
            -1
            and I
            Quote: udincev
            I do not exclude a "cataclysm of corruption" in the design process.

            during earthquakes in Neftegorsk, Spitak and Tashkent during construction in the USSR
            Quote: Wolverine
            This is not a mistake, but a crime, any construction begins with geodesy, especially for a cosmodrome - drilling and testing to rocky ground.

            How many people have come from surveyors / builders / architects for these cities ?? !!!!
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 10 September 2018 10: 59
          -3
          Dear, what are your fantasies if you do not understand the topic?
      2. Wolverine
        Wolverine 10 September 2018 10: 38
        +11
        This is not a mistake, but a crime, any construction begins with geodesy, especially for a cosmodrome - drilling and testing to rocky ground.
  6. Yrec
    Yrec 10 September 2018 10: 03
    0
    Well, that before launches, and not during.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 September 2018 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: Yrec
      The documentation published on the public procurement website says that voids are found under the reinforced concrete base of a special mobile tower path maintenance of construction number one of the launch complex of the Soyuz-2 rocket.

      I understand that we are talking about the ways in which the rocket from the assembly hangar is transferred to the launch complex, and not about the voids under the launch complex itself.
      1. Alex
        Alex 10 September 2018 12: 30
        +1
        About the paths along which the service tower moves (pictured in the center in the background)
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 10 September 2018 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: Yrec
      Well, that before launches, and not during.

      So the 3rd start was already.
  7. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 10 September 2018 10: 07
    +2
    The issue price is only 4,6 million? It costs a poor cottage. It is simply incomprehensible to the mind that they could have undersigned this smallness of soil in the foundation. what
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 10 September 2018 10: 10
    +8
    It is interesting, and how the design and survey work was carried out ..? These works are not cheap ...
    1. AUL
      AUL 10 September 2018 10: 38
      +4
      I also thought about it right away! Without such works (very serious), such a construction is unthinkable, tea, not a cottage toilet built! It would be right to get money for the correction of these jambs from the organization that carried out these works. And in triple size!
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 10 September 2018 12: 43
        0
        Quote: AUL
        It would be right to get money for the correction of these jambs from the organization that carried out these works. And in triple size!

        There is such a feeling that there is no longer this office ...
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 10 September 2018 11: 21
      +3
      It looks like someone urgently needed to "launder" a certain amount. After some time, it is quite possible to expect a cheerful report that all the voids have been eliminated, and the funds have been mastered.
  9. Rumata-estorskii
    Rumata-estorskii 10 September 2018 10: 11
    +8
    We give money to failure. Why, you ask? And so as not to fail further!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 10 September 2018 20: 35
      0
      Quote: Rumata-Estorskii
      We give money to failure. Why, you ask? And so as not to fail further!
      Someone reviewed Ilf and Petrov. wink
  10. CentDo
    CentDo 10 September 2018 10: 11
    +5
    And what, it was not fate to check the soil properly BEFORE the construction of the cosmodrome? Of course, I am not a builder, but in my opinion, during the construction of such facilities, a place should be selected, including the condition of the soil.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 10 September 2018 10: 26
      +4
      No matter what doesn’t fail, it doesn’t flood and doesn’t erode, etc. design and survey work is being carried out, if any deficiencies are identified at the entrance to the work, a conclusion is prepared about the possibility or impossibility of eliminating them, changes to the project are made .. The work indicated is very expensive, and making changes to the project also costs money ...
    2. Alex
      Alex 10 September 2018 12: 33
      +1
      There most likely under the roads are bulk soil. Either they were not compacted enough, or it was blurred.
      1. Zhurba
        Zhurba 10 September 2018 15: 49
        0
        Permafrost, who forgot.
  11. svp67
    svp67 10 September 2018 10: 12
    +5
    And who carried out geophysical work at this facility? Who is to blame? Prospectors, designers, builders? This cannot be, what would IT
  12. gukoyan
    gukoyan 10 September 2018 10: 12
    -1
    ... Apparently that's why the rockets fell)
  13. san4es
    san4es 10 September 2018 10: 12
    +7
    The first launch from the spaceport took place at the end of April 2016.

    .Video of the first launch from the Vostochny spaceport from the onboard chambers of the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle. The launch took place on April 28, 2016 ..... hi
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 September 2018 10: 14
    +4
    The cost of work is estimated at 4,6 million rubles.
    Judging by the cost of the work, the heading sounds too scary than what actually is. Khrizman with his son, accountant, etc., has already been convicted, so there is no one else to ask. Now it remains only to eliminate the shortcomings.
  15. Vadim851
    Vadim851 10 September 2018 10: 17
    +1
    Will there be enough of these cents to fix the problem? I would like it without problems, emptiness is not good. Where were the construction experts?
    In fact, it’s good that the jamb is found, bad if not found.
  16. loki565
    loki565 10 September 2018 10: 21
    +1
    And when it was built by surveyors as missed ??? Here, and to recover 4.6 million rubles from surveyors, otherwise you can bury budget money every year, but no one has seen these voids)))
    1. Стена
      Стена 10 September 2018 10: 33
      +4
      It is necessary to keep those who signed the acceptance certificate, and let them already deal with those who missed the void
    2. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 10 September 2018 11: 14
      0
      Surveying is out of business (almost)
      Before starting the construction of such facilities, work must be carried out to study the geological structure of the construction area. Core drilling is carried out on the grid, geologists, hydrogeologists, geophysicists work - if geophysical work is carried out, such as seismic, gamma-ray logging, cavernometry, etc. Geological maps, sections, etc. are compiled, and after the conclusion of the specialists a decision is made.
      If all these works are carried out in due volume and with good specialists, then there can be no failures.
      And the dips just below the object are generally beyond comprehension! belay Yes, are they even doing geology there or are they hiring some trainees? request
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 September 2018 14: 30
        0
        and the banal erosion of the soil under the paths in your opinion is impossible?
        1. loki565
          loki565 11 September 2018 22: 05
          0
          For this amount, 115 concrete mixers can be poured, and this is enough for the foundation of a skyscraper)))
  17. lot
    lot 10 September 2018 10: 41
    +3
    Well, since there are voids, then another billion will be found as in Zakharchenko. business then. Now it's called mining.
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  19. Guru
    Guru 10 September 2018 10: 48
    +3
    Everything is logical. The authorities pretended to be paying, and the workers pretended to be working. Emptiness is only the beginning.
    1. Alekseits
      Alekseits 10 September 2018 11: 01
      -1
      Spit it out ...
  20. bald
    bald 10 September 2018 11: 01
    0
    For this, in the pockets responsible for the construction, it was as if no voids were found, although there wasn’t - they caught someone. I wonder how it will turn out with a bridge to Sakhalin ?! Ugh, Ugh, Ugh - as much as you can.
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 September 2018 11: 06
    +1
    What nonsense, did they, before designing and starting work, did not carry out geodetic surveys? I do not believe it, this is not a well to dig out at the dacha, but a spaceport worth many billions.
  22. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 10 September 2018 11: 13
    +4
    So what? The problem was solved a century ago: injection of silicate filler. By the way, something similar stopped the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
    By the way, what about voids of permafrost or karst origin?
    But Moscow, Moscow region, Perm region abound with voids. Where limestone deposits are washed out, where - salt deposits, and in the north of the large Tyumen region (YNNO) permafrost and methane hydrates melt ...
  23. earloop
    earloop 10 September 2018 12: 00
    -1
    No "guys"! All wrong! All wrong. "guys"! After all, someone conducted geoengineering and seismic surveys? However, comments are superfluous: "and they went like the sun of the palima, repeating obscene words, spreading their hands hopelessly."
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 11 September 2018 06: 30
      0
      The same can be said about city construction, about road construction - railways and cars ... In Berezniki, over there - type "Failures in Berezniki and Solikamsk ..."
      By the way, "In the 1970s, in the Khoroshevo-Mnevniki area, several houses and cars fell into karst voids at a depth of 10 to 80 meters." ... "to cool the reactor at the Kurchatov Institute, founded in 1943, from a huge amount of water is taken out of the wells, and surface water along with the soil is drawn into the formed voids, dragging everything that stands on the surface. The activation of karst processes here began in the 1960-1970s, and since then more than 40 karst sinkholes have formed. First, in 1956, a five-story building on Khoroshevskoe highway collapsed. In 1977, several buildings collapsed in Novokhoroshevsky proezd ... "
      And so on ...
  24. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 September 2018 13: 09
    0
    What is a child’s contract ...))
  25. 23424636
    23424636 10 September 2018 13: 55
    +2
    and what to do without voids, if this is a former mining village and workings have been unambiguously preserved. In Donetsk, the whole city stands on the former and current aisles, but 24 floors were built without hesitation. Nothing This is not a problem., The main thing is that the structure without cracks remained and the voids were filled with concrete and everything will be pea.
  26. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 10 September 2018 14: 07
    +1
    The casket opens simply:
    "At the launch complex of the Vostochny cosmodrome found poorly poured concrete. This was reported to Interfax in the press service of the Center for the Operation of Terrestrial Space Infrastructure (TsENKI).
    “Specialists of FSUE“ TsENKI ”revealed low-quality concrete under the skin of the launch pad at the Vostochny cosmodrome, however, this construction marriage is not critical and will be eliminated by the Roscosmos state corporation’s own forces by October 5 of this year, ”the press service said.
    According to the results of the inspection, the press service noted, poor-quality concrete pouring was allowed by the previous contractor - Spetsstroy RF. "
    Such are the "moles".
  27. keeper03
    keeper03 10 September 2018 14: 13
    +1
    What a "pleasant" surprise, you can pour a bunch of concrete into the voids and wash a lot of pennies! fellow recourse
  28. Avior
    Avior 10 September 2018 23: 28
    0
    some reptile probably drilled a hole laughing
  29. Normal ok
    Normal ok 11 September 2018 00: 14
    0
    Roscosmos Corporation has already concluded a contract for the elimination of voids

    It seemed that the budget cut at Vostochny was over. But no, everything is just beginning.
  30. LeonidL
    LeonidL 11 September 2018 04: 42
    +1
    What crank did the letter M spend there research work ??? It is necessary to be complete in such a construction not to find voids (cavities) and not to fill them, all the more so when building any kind of aggregate at hand was in bulk.
  31. demo
    demo 11 September 2018 10: 25
    +2
    The construction of ANY object begins, after selecting a site, with geological research.
    Indeed, on the site you can build a hut, but you can skyscraper.
    Depending on the soil, an assessment is given on the possibility of placing the structure.
    But why isn’t it voiced information about who, when did the geology?
    There is a surname, name, patronymic on the documents.
    And the position. And the name of the company.
    And these documents are stored from 25 to 75 years. Depending on the expected life of the structure.
    Or maybe they didn’t do geology at all?
    I mean fresh.
    And they took archival data. And changed the dates.
    And money in your pocket.
    And she is such a nature.
    Today there is no void, and in ten years it may appear.
    Water, sediment, soil erosion and hundreds of other factors.
    Oh country, oh and people.
    There is no tender for elimination, but the Investigative Committee must be connected.