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Will the summit at the Kyrgyz resort be a renaissance of the Turkic Council?

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Last week, the VI Summit of the Cooperation Council of Turkic-speaking States (CCTS) was held in the Kyrgyz resort town of Cholpon-Ata. It was attended by the presidents of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev, Kyrgyzstan Sooronbay Zheenbekov, Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev. President of Uzbekistan Shavkat Mirzieyev and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban were invited to the summit as honored guests.



Frame: First Channel Eurasia, YouTube


Meeting after a quarrel

This interstate format manifested itself back in the nineties, when Turkey entered the post-Soviet space in order to fix its geopolitical interests. At that time, Ankara was striving to become the center of the Turkic world. Fortunately, the Turkish economy was booming and was a good example for the former republics of Soviet Central Asia, which fell into a deep crisis after the collapse of the USSR.

At the first stage, the cooperation proceeded mainly in the development of Turkic arts and languages. Later parliaments of Turkic-speaking countries joined interstate communication. They even created their own Assembly, where, however, they also discussed humanitarian issues.

After the financial crisis of 2008, at the next meeting in the Azerbaijani city of Nakhichevan, the country’s communication experience (Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkey), initiated by Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, created the Cooperation Council of Turkic-speaking States (CCTS) with headquarters in Istanbul.

It is noteworthy that the agenda of the first summit was devoted to issues of economic and trade cooperation. The calculation was based on how to unite around Turkey to solve their immediate problems. However, it was not possible to advance far in this direction. The contradictions between the interests of the Turkic-speaking states and the weakness of the Turkish economy, which emerged from the world crisis pretty shabby, have affected.

It is not by chance that all subsequent summits were again devoted to issues of humanitarian cooperation. So the main topic of the current meeting was “National sport and cooperation in the youth sphere”. The summit was timed to the Third World Nomad Games held in Kyrgyzstan.

It should be noted that the heads of countries of the Turkic Council gathered in Cholpon-Ata after a three-year break. It was caused by serious disagreements between Ankara and its new partners in Central Asia. The crisis arose because of the Turkish educational programs of Fethullah Gülen, which became widespread in the post-1990s in the post-Soviet Turkic republics.

For example, in Kyrgyzstan, the Gülen network owned 16 lyceums, two international schools, Silk Road and Cambridge, and Atatürk-Alatoo International University. They annually produced 10 thousands of students. According to expert estimates, up to 40-50% of the representatives of the current ruling class of Kyrgyzstan received education in Gulenovsky schools.

For the time being, this “soft power” suited the Turkish authorities until Fethullah Gulen quarreled with President Recep Erdogan. After the attempted coup in Turkey, Erdogan demanded that the leaders of the Turkic-speaking countries close Gulen’s schools, but he encountered obvious opposition, especially in Kyrgyzstan. As a result, Istanbul has ceased to convene the summits of the Turkic Council.

Now interstate communication continued. He was joined by Uzbekistan, which officially joined the CCNT 30 in April of this year. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban appeared among the Turkic leaders. He explained the visit to the ignorant public: “Hungarians consider themselves descendants of Atilla, the governor of the Huns, which gives them reason to call themselves European Turks ... We Hungarians speak Hungarian, this is a unique and peculiar language that is related to the Turkic language. We took Christianity. We are Christians, but we stand on the Kypchak-Turkic basis. ”

Integration of economies with weak currencies


The Turkic leaders of Viktor Orban accepted and even assigned Hungary observer status in the CCTS. It is unlikely that the Hungarian Prime Minister came to Kyrgyzstan to promote Turkic arts and culture. In Cholpon-Ata, they again started talking about economic cooperation.

In the conditions when the world came into motion and reformatted its financial and economic relations, leaders of many countries are looking for support in new interstate associations. In addition, after the first summit of the Turkic Council, local analysts called it with an obvious pretense - “the Turkic European Union”.

The controversial comparison walked through the pages of the media, but was quickly forgotten against the background of the discussion of secondary topics - cooperation in tourism, media and information, education, science and culture. Fundamental issues at the meetings of the Turkic Council, if discussed, then beyond the main agenda. Most often this happened in the format of bilateral negotiations on the margins of the summit.

This time, among the final documents of the meeting in Cholpon-Ata, the “Draft Concept on the Integration of Turkic-speaking States” is highlighted. This is the second edition of the Turkic EU. Experts immediately questioned the possibility of deep integration of the member countries of the Turkic Council.

There are several reasons for this. For example, Turkey is in the North Atlantic military alliance, and Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan - in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) of post-Soviet countries. In Cholpon-Ata, Erdogan appealed to them with a request to support the leader of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, in the conflict with Armenia (also a member of the CSTO) around Nagorno-Karabakh.

It turned out that the Turkish leader called on Nursultan Nazarbayev and Sooronbai Jeenbekov to ignore the existing interstate treaties. Among other things, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan belong to the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), with which Ankara has no relations.

No less important is the fact that Turkey has lost the role of a strong leader of the Turkic countries. (And, as you know, effective integration takes place around a strong center). The currency has settled down (at thirty percent since the beginning of the year) and the economy. Today, for example, Kazakhstan feels more confident.

He has higher GDP per capita, more gold reserves. Astana, following the example of Moscow, is increasing its reserves of physical gold and has already bypassed Britain by this indicator, having come close to Saudi Arabia and is well ahead of Turkey.

At the summit in Kyrgyzstan, Turkish President Recep Erdogan returned to his favorite subject - the transition to settlements in local currencies, because "dependence on the US dollar creates obstacles in mutual trade." However, an even greater obstacle is the weakness and volatility of the Turkic currencies themselves.

For this reason, by the way, the negotiations between Russia and Turkey on the transition to settlements in rubles and liras, which have been going on since 2016, have not yet yielded results. It will be even more difficult for states with weaker economies. They even agree on a tariff policy and simplify administrative procedures (as suggested by Nursultan Nazarbayev) will be difficult, since such decisions may affect the interests of third countries.

Not only a weak economy impedes the integration of the Turkic world. The neo-Ottoman policy of Ankara, which is becoming more and more obvious religious forms, is in contradiction with the secular character of the countries of Central Asia. Erdogan’s departure from the principles of state structure laid down by Mustafa Ataturk has already alerted the elite in the countries of the Turkic Council. They understand that they can only become material for strengthening Turkey’s geopolitical ambitions. Not everyone is satisfied with such an infamous role.

In light of these controversies, the future of the CCTS seems rather uncertain. That has not yet been felt by local observers, who hastened to assess the summit in Kyrgyzstan as a renaissance of the Turkic Council.
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  1. Peter Smith
    Peter Smith 10 September 2018 13: 13
    +3
    credit article. all about the case
    indeed a proverb applies to Turkey - sees an eye, but a tooth is numb
    it is weak economically, therefore its attempts to leadership are vain
    however, like the Russians, for the same reason
  2. Conductor
    Conductor 10 September 2018 16: 08
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    And so it’s a problem with the rampart, and here is the next Turkic cheating.
  3. Flavius
    Flavius 10 September 2018 16: 08
    +1
    I am tormented by vague doubts that modern Turks, and even more so Hungarians, have something in common with Kazakhs or Kyrgyz. Languages ​​may belong to the same group, but there is kinship by blood - the seventh water on jelly. The types are different. What is Atilla ..
    Therefore, it is not clear - why else should Orban get together with Nazarbayev.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 10 September 2018 18: 45
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      Türks-Oguzes and Magyars came to the territory of sovr. Turkey and Hungary from the territories lie. KZ and the Russian Federation.
      Magyar is a tribe among the Argyn clan of the Middle Zhuz of the Kazakhs.
      1. Flavius
        Flavius 10 September 2018 19: 00
        +1
        I do not argue, but for the millennium Hungarians have been Europeanized to nowhere. There Turkic blood with a thimble left, if left. How much did they still fight with Turkey, and now make friends? The Turks also absorbed so many diverse nations, surpassing them in numbers, what kind of Turks they are now.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 10 September 2018 22: 32
          +3
          Quote: Flavius
          but the Hungarians have been Europeanized for the millennium to nowhere. There Turkic blood with a thimble left, if left. How much did they still fight with Turkey, and now make friends? Turks also absorbed so many heterogeneous nations, surpassing them in numbers, what kind of Turks are they now

          III ??? In Russia all purebreds are direct or something ?? What does it matter at all ?? There are different projects, the Russian world, the Turkic world, the Muslim world, the European or Western world. So that some people have 10% of the original weather they don’t do it. Türks, who are possibly smaller in terms of Türkic DNA than Kazakhs, but at the same time are many times more nationalistic and promote Türkism than other purer Türks. This is in the Turkish army on the ancient Türkic Runic inscription on soldiers.
          And the venres are considered partly and part of the Türkic world they have the right and every year they host international Nomad games.
          1. Flavius
            Flavius 11 September 2018 08: 28
            +1
            Yes please. Your Turkic world is simply diverse - one resembles a Chinese, the other a German. It would seem nothing in common, but trying to be friends.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 12 September 2018 01: 20
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              Quote: Flavius
              Your Turkic world is simply diverse - one resembles a Chinese,

              If you do not know how to distinguish types, this is your problem. Turk or Mongol does not closely resemble the Chinese, the section of the eyes, the shape of the face and head are very different.
              Quote: Flavius
              another on a german.

              and not only on the Arab, on the Caucasian, on the Persian. The Turks absorbed all this.
              Quote: Flavius
              It would seem nothing in common, but trying to be friends.

              Religion, traditions, dishes, folk tales and epics, national instruments and most important LANGUAGE. As you can see there are many in common. And yes, some managed to partially divide, but not to the end.
              1. Flavius
                Flavius 12 September 2018 08: 55
                +2
                Quote: Yeraz
                and not only on the Arab, on the Caucasian, on the Persian. The Turks absorbed all this.

                So I want to understand - what do you have in common, besides the label "Turkic". Blood is different, religions are different, traditions too. Language only to some extent.
                The reindeer herder of Yakut and the Turk from Antalya have nothing in common.
                And what can be built on such a foundation? Conversations are useless only to lead.
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 12 September 2018 14: 51
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                  Quote: Flavius
                  So I want to understand - what do you have in common, besides the label "Turkic".

                  it’s not everywhere, but in places. The same can be said about the Russians, so many impurities and nothing.
                  Quote: Flavius
                  religions are different, traditions too. Language is only to some extent.
                  The reindeer herder of Yakut and the Turk from Antalya have nothing in common.

                  Why are you pushing the Yakuts here, who in the percentage of the Türks percent are 0.000000000000001%. ??
                  Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, Kumyks and Nogays, Karachays, Balkars, Crimean Tatars, Turkmens of Iraq and Syria, Hazaras Afghanistan are all ONE Religion.
                  The cunning move shoving the small Yakuts here, to say what is common.
                  The above listed very, very much in common, both in terms of religion, traditions, clothing and language.
                  Within one day I will find a common language with Uzbek, with a Cossack for 2-3. And even with Yakut, who is several thousand kilometers away from me and with whom other Tbrski have not come into contact for a long time, even with him I can speak the same language.

                  Quote: Flavius
                  And what can be built on such a foundation? Conversations are useless only to lead.

                  Already created and are being created. Azerbaijan and Turkey have long been economically intertwined. Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan have also been economically tied to all projects. Open the railway is also a step in integration, cultural integration.
                  Oscas Knig on the History of the Türks from Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkey will soon be released.
                  In Turkey, there are huge diasporas in all the Turkic countries, half of the elites are trained in the Lyceums of Turkey, after the 90s a lot of people went to Turkey, many projects in the CIS countries are Turkish companies. So, the foundation is powerful and is developing.
                  Of course, the locomotive is Turkey, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, but the rest are pulling up. After Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan is also more actively involved. It remains to throw off Gurbanguly and Turkmenistan will be around.
                  1. Flavius
                    Flavius 12 September 2018 15: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    The same can be said about the Russians, so many impurities and nothing.

                    The Russians do not have this and cannot be, so that the difference would be like between Nazarbayev and Orban. No, of course, candidates can beat themselves in the chest and assure that both russians are hereditary, but this is a clinical case.
                    It is unlikely that Russian will find a common language with a Bosniak or a Pole, no matter how close they are racially or religiously.
                    I state this to the fact that blizzard is complete this your Turkic union laughing No offense will be said.
                    All people are the same and Hungarians will not be friends with a Turk.
                    And the songs are beautiful of course and the language)
                    Teshekur Ederim smile
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz 12 September 2018 19: 53
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                      Quote: Flavius
                      The Russians do not have this and cannot be, so that the difference would be like between Nazarbayev and Orban.

                      we live in different Russia. You can calmly see a typical Asian with a Russian name, last name and patronymic and claiming that he is a purebred Russian, exactly the same and dark. In Russia, there are a lot of them.
                      Quote: Flavius
                      It is unlikely that Russian will find a common language with a Bosniak or a Pole, no matter how close they are racially or religiously.

                      In Russia, the proverb is a Russian Russian enemy. Therefore, this is the specificity of the Russians. The Türks are not so. For example, huge units of Uyghurs, Uzbeks and others fighting in Syria from China.
                      Quote: Flavius
                      I state this to the fact that blizzard is complete this your Turkic union

                      In Azerbaijan with Turkey, this is specifically the Military, Economic, Political and Cultural Union and in practice.
                      With Kazakhstan, economic and political.
                      The same with the Uzbeks.
                      The Turkic countries in the CSTO are not on the side of an ally of Armenia, but on the side of Turkic Azerbaijan and vote for Azerbaijan.
                  2. Knizhnik
                    Knizhnik 12 September 2018 15: 37
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                    Welcome.
                    Why are you pushing the Yakuts here, who in the percentage of the Türks percent are 0.000000000000001%. ??

                    shoving here small Yakuts

                    They prefer the self-name "Sakha". And they feel a common Turkic involvement. I beg your pardon, but it could be more polite about them.
                    http://sakhaday.ru/news/v-azerbajdzhane-izdan-sbornik-stihov-yakutskoj-poetessy/
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz 12 September 2018 19: 56
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                      Quote: Knizhnik
                      They prefer the self-name "Sakha"

                      I know, I just decided not to load a comrade from above, who for some reason decided all the Türks were diametrically different.
                      Quote: Knizhnik
                      And they feel common Turkic involvement.

                      A person who claims that there is nothing in common between Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkey and Azerbaijan without knowing anything is very difficult to accept the similarity with the Yakuts.
                      Quote: Knizhnik
                      but one could have been more polite about them.

                      He didn’t say anything bad about the brothers, he simply indicated that they are few in number and not an indicator of the unity, separation or movement of Turkism, they are simply not enough to be an influential force in this stream.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 11 September 2018 10: 37
      -1
      Quote: Flavius
      I am tormented by vague doubts that modern Turks, and even more so Hungarians, have something in common with Kazakhs or Kyrgyz.

      I agree, especially the Hungarians, representatives of the Finno-Ugric peoples, how side are they related to the Turks?
      Modern Turks are the turkish Europioids of modern Turkey (Anatolia), and the same Kyrgyz are Mongoloids. This is the same as saying that Yakut and Chechen are related peoples as they speak Russian.
      1. Flavius
        Flavius 11 September 2018 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        This is the same as saying that the Yakut and Chechen are kindred peoples as they speak Russian.

        I think so. Also this bike
        Quote: Kasym
        Magyar is a tribe among the Argyn clan of the Middle Zhuz of the Kazakhs.

        at that time Kazakhs and their zhuzes were not even in the project when the Hungarians invaded Europe.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 12 September 2018 01: 27
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        Quote: RUSS
        I agree, especially the Hungarians, representatives of the Finno-Ugric peoples, how side are they related to the Turks?

        well, they weren’t dragged there by force and are not forced to play nomads every year. Ask why the Hungarians include themselves among the Türks, they do not deny their Finno-Ugric origin.
        Quote: RUSS
        This is the same as saying that the Yakut and Chechen are kindred peoples as they speak Russian.

        not the same thing. They have a common language of their own, and not borrowed by a stranger. And there are similarities of traditions and customs. Yes, I have fewer Yakuts, but the rest of the Türks are not directly very different in terms of traditions, dishes, national heroes and epics, and much more and these Turks: Turks, Azerbaijan Turks, Cossacks, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Kyrgyz, Uigurs, Turkmens and others are the majority. And the Yakuts and Tyvintsy are a minority of the Turkic world. Therefore, the closest proximity in terms of different substance does not mean the same situation with others. brothers and that says it all. Some have done a lot for the separation of the Türks, but did not finish the job.
      3. Yeraz
        Yeraz 12 September 2018 01: 42
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        Quote: RUSS
        I agree, especially the Hungarians, representatives of the Finno-Ugric peoples, how side are they related to the Turks?

  4. Boozer
    Boozer 10 September 2018 16: 10
    +4
    This is not the Turkic EU, or even the Turkic EurAsEC, but rather the Turkic CIS. They created it, but they don’t know what to do with it.
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 10 September 2018 17: 05
      -1
      Such alliances arise when the former lose their strength. And the problem is in a weak Russia, for the weak cannot lead. Russia needs to look for ways of healing and strength, then they will not be at hand to create other, in principle, anti-Russian unions. Like it or not, but the Turkic union go against the interests of Russia. It is evident that Russia has ripened to change the rulers, so in the twentieth anniversary which did not bring the expected results except stability, and today the need is only for the development of the state.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 10 September 2018 18: 49
        +1
        Why don't you join this "union"? There are many Turkic peoples in the Russian Federation: from the Yakuts to the Karachais.
        By the way, Nomad Games were also held there, where representatives of the Russian Federation took part. hi
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 10 September 2018 22: 34
          +3
          Quote: Kasym
          Why don't you join this "union"?

          why is it the Russian Federation ??
          Quote: Kasym
          There are many Turkic peoples in the Russian Federation: from Yakuts to Karachais.

          so that the Türkic peoples of the Russian Federation draw closer even more and stop Russifying ???
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 11 September 2018 10: 38
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            so that the Türkic peoples of the Russian Federation draw closer even more and stop Russifying ???

            All right good
          2. avt
            avt 11 September 2018 12: 36
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            so that the Türkic peoples of the Russian Federation become even closer and stop Russifying ???

            bully Pan Slavism is enough for us. We already loved it - the final apotheosis of the Ruin since 2014, and you can continue to play with Pan-Turkism.
            Quote: Yeraz
            progress in their Turkic identity

            bully C for a minute - Latin! bully And let’s say so - you at least affirm the ONE alphabet .... truly Turkic, ancient (do not offer Arabic letters bully ), then Aki Cyril with Methodius .... invent a written Turku, then we will speak for Russians who consider themselves Türks. Well, like what and how to teach them to progress. And yes
            Quote: Yeraz
            .In the Russian Federation still are not fools
            on these "pangrables" they danced to their heart's content.
            bully
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 12 September 2018 01: 39
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              Quote: avt
              invent a written Turku

              why invent it ?? It is. The Türkic runic, it is also called the Yenisei inscription. The alphabet is google, it will give out.
              In the Turkish army, the word TURK is very popular as an additional element on Runic.
              1. avt
                avt 12 September 2018 08: 20
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                Quote: Yeraz
                He is. Turkic runic

                bully bully Some more "arias" have appeared! Well, argue with the velikovkrami about who ... uh-uh-uh Adam was. Well, not Taras, and even more so not Adamyan, but ... well, you can insert yourself. bully
                Quote: Yeraz
                called the Yenisei inscription.

                bully It will be too small! Take an example again from the same great ukrov - immediately declare the Sumerian cuneiform writing of the Turkic script written! bully Yes ! Once again about
                Quote: Yeraz
                No RF needs Russification, not Turkization

                Enough of the Ruins! Fed up with the experiments of the USSR to create writing and literary languages ​​for the peoples of the USSR. All different, from the Baltic to the extreme north. North to South. After all, on the same Ruin, not Kotlyarevsky and Kulish, the creator of the runic alphabet, but "Kulishovki", introduced MOV to the masses by FORCE. circulation of textbooks and literature. What in the end? Correctly - "gratitude" of the newly found, ancient people with the systematic prohibition of the Russian language. And in the Baltics it is completely apartheid for the Russians. So how can you do it yourself, if you can. Only here is the catch - do you think smarter than the great ugly people and other great litters? Oh well. bully Az! Yes ! Turkey! bully Just don’t be upset when awareness comes - Erdogan and his ilk are building a neo-Ottoman EMPIRE! Here we are sitting on the sidelines and see how it is for you there. Well, better than in the USSR and all the more so than with the current imperial Russia. bully Some of them already ran into a rake - the teeth straightened and, in addition to three, all fell off, and of the remaining ones, they made a coat of arms for themselves
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 12 September 2018 14: 58
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                  Quote: avt
                  One more "arias" were drawn!

                  What does the Ari have to do with ??? These are all in real life. All historical stones, mounds, etc. on the territory of Russia, Mongolia and China, where there are Uighurs. This is not invented.
                  First, say no writing, given as an example, but no argument ukrov dragged here.
                  Quote: avt
                  Erdogan and others like him are building a neo-Ottoman Empire! Here we are sitting on the sidelines and see how it is for you there. Well, better than in the USSR and all the more so than with the current imperial Russia

                  how is it there ??? etc.
                  In Turkey, you're not a nigger or hachik.Tyt TURK.Religiya one, this tradition odni.Chem Türk in the Turkish Empire will be worse than in Russian ???
                  This applies more to Georgians, Armenians, and other Christian and non-Turkic peoples, as they will lose their language and faith and will be gradually Turkized.
                  And the Türks in the Russian Federation are threatened with extinction and complete Russification. An example of the Tatars and many others.
                  Therefore, the example is generally out of place. It refers more to others.
  5. NF68
    NF68 11 September 2018 16: 05
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    Useless then. Each country will try to push its interests first.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 12 September 2018 01: 40
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      Quote: NF68
      Useless then. Each country will try to push its interests first.

      really a strange feature, here all the others act differently, but these each have their own)))
      1. NF68
        NF68 15 September 2018 20: 57
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        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: NF68
        Useless then. Each country will try to push its interests first.

        really a strange feature, here all the others act differently, but these each have their own)))


        In the West, too, everything is primarily pulled by the blanket, but at the same time in the West they have already more or less learned to work together for the sake of common interests. Although these interests can not always coincide.
  6. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 12 September 2018 15: 49
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    The CCTS includes independent states. I do not think that someone will allow someone to dominate unambiguously. Neither Turkey nor Kazakhstan. I don’t understand questions like "and what next?" A nicho. Slowly, for a start, to establish at least some kind of economic cooperation, and then shukur. And then how will it turn out, because you can't be cute forcibly.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 12 September 2018 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Knizhnik
      Slowly, for a start, I would establish at least some kind of economic cooperation, and that’s shyukur. And there it will turn out, because you won’t be forcibly sweet.

      So this alliance is more undermined for humanitarian purposes, and here they almost made a military-political alliance. Other indicators are needed for this.
      The greatest progress in these areas is in Turkey, Kazakstan and Azerbaijan, the rest will, to varying degrees, be pulled in different directions.
      1. Knizhnik
        Knizhnik 13 September 2018 09: 50
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        Yes, there cannot be a military-political bloc, if only because many countries are already in these or those. Sharpened for humanitarian purposes? laughing To get together to call each other brothers, eat fried-steamed meat and dance ... We are good at this. Business would still be done together.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 13 September 2018 13: 52
          +1
          Quote: Knizhnik
          To get together to call each other brothers, eat fried-steamed meat and dance ... We are good at this.

          well, not only. There is a development of a single textbook on the history of the Türks, a decision on which, if I am not mistaken, should be taken in November and then in 3 countries there will be a single book on the history of the Türks.
          These are all small steps in terms of convergence and integration.
  7. gorenina91
    gorenina91 13 September 2018 11: 36
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    -And where are the Hungarians in general ..?
    - Hungarians belong to the Finno-Ugric group of peoples and are included in the Finno-Ugric ethnic language group ...
    -Which wheel are Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs here ..? - These are "two big differences" ... - Yes, and in the way of life, religion, etc. ... - also "two big differences." - Obviously, Orban pursues some of his own "economic interests" ... - so he got around to the Turks ... - And Orban's ancestors ... - in general, they fought with the Turks all their lives ... - not for life, but for death .. - and they were with the Turks absolutely two different peoples ... - by language, by faith and by their mentality ... - If they knew ... that ... someday they would also be "ranked" to ...
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 13 September 2018 13: 53
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      Quote: gorenina91
      And where are the Hungarians in general ..?

      you go reading anything immediately leave a comment.

      What do you think, the Hungarian extradited an Azerbaijani officer who killed an Armenian officer? They consider themselves part of the Türks and Finno-Ugrians.