T-500 (MB-500) received a type certificate. Modern replacement of An-2?

The Federal Air Transport Agency, the Federal Agency for Air Transport of the Russian Federation, issued a type certificate for a specialized aircraft, which is designed to carry out aviation chemical works (T-500 / MB-500). In fact, we are talking about the first agricultural aircraft in the Russian Federation, which passed through certification.

The implementation of the certification program for this aircraft began last summer. The developer MV-500 is the company MVEN (Tatarstan). Over the years, the whole complex of tests was carried out, which ultimately confirmed all the declared characteristics of an agricultural aircraft.

From the statement of the director of the cluster "Armament" corporation Rostec Sergey Abramov:

The obtained certificate allows you to start serial production of T-500 (MB-500) and commercial operation of aircraft in the fleet of leading customers. By the end of 2018, it is planned to launch 10 serial machines, in 2019, it is expected to reach production capacity of up to 120 aircraft per year. A number of ministries and departments, including the Ministry of Agriculture, the Federal Forestry Agency, and regions of the country expressed interest in an easy and economical machine.

What is the T-500? The plane, the glider which is made of composite materials. This allows it to be operated in a variety of climatic conditions. The aircraft provides a high-speed parachute system, which ensures the rescue of the crew in a critical situation. The machine can be used not only for agricultural work, but also for monitoring the situation in fire-hazardous periods, for surveying industrial facilities from the air, for eliminating oil spills and other purposes. In fact, this is an attempt to replace such workhorses as An-2, which performed and continue to perform a truly enormous amount of work in various sectors of the economy, including the agricultural industry.

T-500 (MB-500) under the project "MVEN" is created by Obninsk Scientific-Production Enterprise "Tekhnika", which is part of RT-Chemcomposite Rostec, engaged in the manufacture of composite parts for airframes and glazing.

Comments

[Fedorov]

I don’t argue, it’s a good airplane. I’ve been following it for a long time.
But how much can you try? Give a couple of dozen, then we will discuss matyuki or praise from the exploiters.
But the wabble always triumphs over evil.

[AUL]

How can you talk about "replacing the An-2"? This is, judging by the picture, a plane of a completely different class!

[Piramidon]

This refers to the replacement of the An-2 in the field of agricultural work and monitoring, and not passenger and cargo transportation.

[Okolotochny]

He is 1 kg. chemicals and fertilizers in the air will raise, like the An-200?

[PN]

He looks kind of absurd.

[Genry]

Quote: PN

He looks kind of absurd.

Because it is "wrapped" around the pilot to a minimum. Very small and lightweight.

[venik]

Quote: PN

He looks kind of absurd.

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Well, if you look at specialized agricultural aircraft (created in different countries over the past 30-40 years), then you will notice that the vast majority of them are very similar and have such an "awkward" look, for example:

Piper "Рawnee" RA-25 (USA)

Cessna A188B-300 AGtruck (USA)

UTVA-65S (Yugoslavia)

FMA IA-53 (Argentina)
It's just that this "awkward" shape is close to optimal for agricultural aviation!

[kakvastam]

The typical silhouette of an agricultural aircraft has been for more than half a century. This is due to the tasks being solved, in particular, such "humpback" gives the pilot a very good view.

[Reserve buildbat]

Interesting, of course, but how appropriate is it to make different aircraft 2-3 for partial replacement of An-2? Do not get expensive?

[PN]

But it doesn’t get a little expensive, to drive the AN-2 to farm fields? This machine in operation, in agricultural, should be cheaper.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: PN

But it doesn’t get a little expensive, to drive the AN-2 to farm fields? This machine in operation, in agricultural, should be cheaper.

You are certainly right. But...
I have a question - what is the carrying capacity of this airplane?
And, looking at the photo, I'm trying to find a place on the plane where the containers for "hybicides, pesticides" and other chemicals are located?
I have a suspicion that someone is pushing projects hard, if not harmful, then at least useless.

[PN]

Quick surfing on the network showed the following characteristics:
T-500 is a single low wing with a pulling screw. According to Technology, its wingspan is 12,4 m, length - 7,7 m, height - 2,3 m. The machine is equipped with an Lycoming 0-540-V4V5-235 engine of 8,87 liters with a resource of 3 thousand. flight hours. The cruising speed of the aircraft is 160 km / h, the maximum flight range is 1000 km. An empty plane weighs 756 kg. Its maximum take-off weight is 1475 kg, the volume of the chemical mixture tank is 500 liters.

[kakvastam]

Interestingly, how many units are there as import-substituted as the engine?

[Okolotochny]

Here, in terms of tank volume - An2 raises 1500 liters. Arithmetic - An2 three times less time, less fuel than the specified device.

[Vladimir 5]

There are enough such airplanes in the world, it’s a pity that we have arrived so late. Even with Poland in Poland, since 1985, a very similar M-18 has been manufactured and sold everywhere, even from the USA.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I have a question - what is the carrying capacity of this airplane?

Spray tank volume - 500 l.

[Freeman]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: PN

But it doesn’t get a little expensive, to drive the AN-2 to farm fields? This machine in operation, in agricultural, should be cheaper.

And, looking at the photo, I'm trying to find a place on the plane where the containers for "hybicides, pesticides" and other chemicals are located?

Here's an example of the Air Tractor AT-802 is clearly visible. Since he has the largest tank for chemicals, he partially advocates for the fuselage skin. For other models, the tank is smaller and they are completely covered by a casing. The layout of all models is similar.

[Vladimir 5]

This is a Polish M18 "Dromedary" produced since 1985. supplied also for the US market (where, as a rule, the purchased item there gets a "local name") ..

[Okolotochny]

Where have you seen in Russia a farmer who processes fields (plant protection and mineral fertilizers) by air? The average farmer has 100-150 ha of land. The latest trend is pneumatic passages, tires with ziky pressure, that's it. Only large enterprises, Holdings are engaged in land cultivation.

[Bull Terrier]

Yes, at least 5. The buyer chooses what he needs. There must be competition. And then some kind of pteradactel will do it, and everyone will have to buy it, or there is a foreign choice.

[Okolotochny]

You with five are not excited. There is such a thing as profitability. Farmers will not use aviation, they are not profitable. Large Holdings - hire an old An-2 with a carrying capacity of three times that and this New device, better than 3, since the terms of depositing are quite short. What will households choose? If the plane in the article on carrying capacity did not concede An-2, then the question would be removed. For agricultural work, the An-2 needs to be replaced in terms of carrying capacity. Compare farmland in the same Poland, by area and in Russia.

[Piramidon]

Quote: stock buildbat

Interesting, of course, but how appropriate is it to make different aircraft 2-3 for partial replacement of An-2? Do not get expensive?

You can, of course, and with some sort of Be-200 locust poison. But, firstly, the T-500 will be much more economical than the An-2, and secondly, the An-2 is already living out its life, and new ones are not produced, and the TVS-2DTS planned to replace it has not yet gone into series

[Bykov.]

Replacement for C / X is still okay, but for passenger traffic is unlikely.

[Genry]

Quote: Bulls.

unlikely for passenger traffic

A very strange proposition. Passengers, you assumed to transport on an external sling?

[venik]

Quote: Genry

Passengers, you assumed to transport on an external sling?

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[Graz]

Quote: Genry

Quote: Bulls.

unlikely for passenger traffic

A very strange proposition. Passengers, you assumed to transport on an external sling?

and what is not then tied with straps and let them hang

[venik]

Quote: Bulls.

Replacement for C / X is still okay, but for passenger traffic is unlikely.

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Well, nobody plans to use it for cargo and passenger transportation ..... For this, OTHER machines are being developed .....

[askort154]

".... In fact, we are talking about an attempt to replace such workhorses as An-2, ..."

That's right - "try". This miracle does not look like an airplane. Cockpit in the middle of the fuselage,
landing gear with a tail wheel, the hood is long, this arrangement impairs the pilot's view during taxiing, takeoff and landing. The prospect of this "creation" is dubious. There is no need to invent a bicycle, but to launch the modernized An-2 into production. What is already being done.

[SOF]

Quote: askort154

This is a miracle and does not look like an airplane. Cabin in the middle of the fuselage,
chassis with a tail wheel, the hood is long, this arrangement impairs the visibility of the pilot during taxiing, take-off and landing

... tell this discovery to long-term operators at least the AT-400 ....

.... here they will be surprised ...

[Piramidon]

You might think that the An-2 chassis is not with a tail wheel.

[avt]

Quote: askort154

The prospect of this "creation" is dubious.

That you sho-oh-oh-oh-oh!? Is it okay that the American analogue has been plowing in the series since 1990? And the arrogant Poles "Dromedary" made a piston back in 1978?

[venik]

Quote: askort154

This is a miracle and doesn’t look like a plane

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Look at the above PHOTOS of foreign agricultural aircraft !!!

Quote: askort154

A cabin in the middle of the fuselage, a chassis with a tail wheel, a long hood, such an arrangement affects the visibility of the pilot during taxiing, take-off and landing

Two-post chassis (with a tail "dutik") - just optimally when landing on untrained sites !!
Extended hood - in order to place the tank for the "chemical" in the center of gravity of the aircraft!
To improve visibility, the cabin is very much raised above the fuselage and has developed glazing, which provides a VERY GOOD overview !!
This layout was born after much research and has long been considered "CLASSIC" Somewhere like that !!

[venik]

Quote: askort154

There’s nothing to invent a bicycle, but put into production a modernized An-2. What is already being done.

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And why did they get that for agricultural work of An-2 - ideal option ???? The cost of processing 1 hectare for the same Pipers, Cessn and AT-300 and 400 is MUCH cheaper !!!! Especially if the area of ​​the cultivated area is small. (There was a time when calculations of economic efficiency came across!).
It’s just that there were farms in the Union (collective farms and state farms) that had huge areas of land and gasoline cost a penny .... Using the An-2 was effective! Today...
PS I'm not going to argue that "antoshka" is not needed !!! Need ... More and how you need it !!! But mainly not for agriculture, but as a UNIVERSAL MULTI-PURPOSE aircraft of "small aviation"

[whitesnow]

An-2 refueling b91 / 115 was not produced in the USSR in sufficient quantities. And purchased in Finland. So it was by no means a penny.

[Zaurbek]

AirTraktor inspired them ....

[venik]

Quote: Zaurbek

AirTraktor inspired them ....

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You are absolutely NOT RIGHT !!! This layout has long been a "classic" ... And AirTraktor (1979) was far from first!!! Piper PA-25 Pawnee (not sure if he was the first, appeared 20 years earlier (1959) .... So ......

[ANCIENT]

A bit of a cockpit and nose shape on the Junkers 87 is similar! !!

[Wedmak]

Well, it will be in films at the same time.

[askort154]

SOF ....... tell this discovery to long-term operators at least the AT-400 ....

.... here they will be surprised ... wassat

You obviously did not fly "chemistry". Otherwise, they would not have cited the AT-400, from which this T-500 was "lapped". I should have seen how long the AT-400 flew at our "agricultural airfields". ... For the AT-400 we need decent airfields, which we never had. We have only "collective farm grounds" with holes and gullies overgrown with grass, including salanches. A lot of Yak-12 and An-2 got up on the "hood" on such sites and, at least, screw breakage with engine repair. I flew at the dawn of my career in "chemistry", so I know what I am writing about. The T 500 is not for our conditions, it will not get into the big series. He is not a competitor to the An-2. T500 - money down the drain.

[venik]

Quote: askort154

Otherwise, they would not have cited the AT-400, from which this T-500 was "lapped"

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And from what actually "hangover" did you decide that the T-500 was "licked" from the AT-400 ??? Because of the "external similarity of the layout" ?? Well, this is almost a traditional layout for MOST agricultural aircraft !!!

Quote: askort154

The AT-400 needs decent airfields, which we never had before.

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Why did you get that? So ... "General considerations" ??? They ("Air Tractors", "Cessna" and other agricultural planes fly all over the world (not only in the USA and Europe, but also in Latin america, Africa etc. and so on .... And for some reason, EVERYWHERE the sites "fit" for them .... And for some reason, we have NO !!! "FROMАlunchИkov "a lot ??
PS In fact, in Russian, the word "salanchik" is absent .... Usually they write "salt marsh" (2 grammatical errors in 1 word at once ... You need to be ABLE !!!)

[NN52]

askort154

The hood is very elongated, which will cause some difficulties when landing, but it seems to be an inconvenience compensated by a high-positioned cab to improve visibility.
Regarding collective farm plots, a normal plot is selected and prepared, what is the question then? And take off with any launch. On the unprepared only in a special case, landing, but how lucky it is, it will camouflage or not, there will be a hole or whatever ... And I wonder what quality the pepelats has in it ...

[Freeman]

Quote: NN52

askort154
The hood is very elongated, which will cause some difficulties when landing, but it seems to be an inconvenience compensated by a high-positioned cab to improve visibility.
Regarding collective farm plots, a normal plot is selected and prepared, what is the question then? And take off with any launch. On the unprepared only in a special case, landing, but how lucky it is, it will camouflage or not, there will be a hole or whatever ... And I wonder what quality the pepelats has in it ...

Well, as an example. It looks like it was the long hood that did not allow the "pepelatsu" to stand on the nose / capo /.

[san4es]

Quote: NN52

.... I wonder what the quality of this pepelats air ...

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[beeper]

Cool movie, comrade Sanchez! Here is a find! I look with great pleasure!
Sincerely!

[san4es]

- Thank you ... To be continued ...

[NN52]

Sanya, thanks.
These foundations, and not only for a long time, were hammered into our heads at the time ...
But it was interesting to watch a film from 69 years old ...

[san4es]

Quote: NN52

... interesting to see a film from 69 years old ...

There are many of them.

[gla172]

... at one time I flew on an "Antoshka" it was interesting .... the crew was sitting behind a curtain .... and this plane, as someone already said above, was of the wrong class .... ".....

[Piramidon]

Quote: gla172

this plane, as someone has already said above of the wrong class .... and so it seems that it will not be able to completely replace the "antoshka" .....

Yes, no one says that he will completely replace the An-2. In the field of passenger and cargo transportation, the An-2 and the planned TVS-2DTS to replace it will remain, but in agricultural aviation and as an aircraft for search and monitoring, you need an aircraft of the type T-500, which will be more economical in these operations.

[Professor]

The implementation of the certification program for this aircraft began last summer. The MV-500 developer is the MVEN company (Tatarstan).

Tatarstan?
Air-Tractor AT-502

In general, the aircraft is very successful in the original. From time to time, I observe how he sprays fields maneuvering between and under power lines.

[avt]

Quote: professor

Tatarstan?

Uhhh, professor mana! Fuck off! Said the same

Aircraft whose glider is made of composite materials. This allows it to be operated in a variety of climatic conditions. The aircraft provides a high-speed parachute system, which ensures the rescue of the crew in an emergency.

So - has no analogues in the world! Even for the Polish "Dromedary" from the 1978 piston, try to remember

[pafegosoff]

I'm familiar with AHR. After working in "poker" - work as a dispatcher at a large airport (1980 record - 90 aircraft per hour - 3 airplanes in a straight line, interval - 45 seconds, the last - Yak-40 from Khanty-Mansiysk - FAC Seryoga Klimashov - landing in a thunderstorm when visibility of 50 meters, failure of the KPPM ... And whatnots after 300 meters above the 6 entrance corridors), and so, after such work, after a break to work as an electrician in Ukraine, work as a turner-borer at home, work as a rail defectoscopist (alcohol extra!), there was a vacancy for a TIR-KDP dispatcher at the local airfield. AviaKhimWork began at sunrise and before the heat.
So, why should one drive a relatively heavy An-2 with two pilots, when all over the world there was such a practice as the T-500. The plane is undoubtedly unique, indestructible, like the Trabant.

[askort154]

pafegosoff ....With AChR familiar. ......
So, why should one drive a relatively heavy An-2 with two pilots, when all over the world there was such a practice as the T-500. The plane is undoubtedly unique, indestructible, like the Trabant.

I read your opus, you are simply a specialist in the broadest profile. Especially in aviation.
An-2 World Champion in terms of release and operating time. There is nothing like this in the world. It is operated from the North to South Poles. On wheels, skiing and floats (An-2V, he flew). In the desert and on the ice.
Not a single foreign "light engine" can perform the tasks that the An-2 performs together. Antonov said, not long before leaving, An-2, this is the best aircraft I have created. As for the two pilots, this is in the past. Starting with its modification An-3 (back in the USSR), and now new modifications will be piloted by one pilot.

[113262a]

Very much like a SKYTRAKTOR and a DROMADER!

[2329 Carpenter]

"Not to invent, but to design!" - the periodically emerging motto of the late 19th century.
Logical, economical, eternal!

[beeper]

And he vividly reminded me of the old Polish agricultural "Kruk" ... even from the first picture in "Tekhnika-Youth" (then it appeared in "Mala-Model") I liked the "lean", sharpened precisely "for its task", layout, simple, "chopped" planes and a "humped" cockpit, with an increased visibility, there was in it, a small peaceful airplane, something cocky and combative, akin to our Il-2 attack aircraft!

[Fbw]

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Су-38

[Conductor]

than Focke Wulf 190 reminds.

[Ros 56]

Which developer, pick up the technical characteristics of the Polish collective farmer Dromader (the camel was called one-humped), hence the name. Strange, the photo is not inserted. If you want, type in a search engine Latin PZL and then Russian Polish corncob.

[ZVS]

It’s somewhat reminiscent of the PZL-Mielec M-18B Dromader,

[Antares]

Quote: SU

PZL-Mielec M-18B Dromader

looking a bit like shapes.

[san4es]

What is the T-500? Aircraft whose glider is made of composite materials.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The gut is weak in this remake replace Annushka! And not because he is inferior in some way to her. Times are not the same! Is the economic situation lame, or for complete happiness are we just missing this Air Tracer?

[APASUS]

Our decided to copy the Air Tractor AT-802F from the United States?

[askort154]

venikasko..... This layout was born after much research and has long been considered "Classic" Somewhere like that!
[i] To improve visibility, the cockpit is very much raised above the fuselage and has developed glazing, which provides a VERY GOOD visibility !!

A bold statement for a person who does not know aerodynamics and aircraft piloting techniques.
How high the cab is not raised (like on a tractor) it does not overlap the high-raised engine hood.
This is the problem of aircraft of the 30-40s (including Germany). To see the "ground" only in lateral directions, and along the course - a large "failure" zone. No matter how high the pilot's lantern was raised, no one succeeded in removing this zone by 100% for aircraft with a tail "dutik". Therefore, such an arrangement of the chassis and, in general, the airframe, was abandoned even in the Great Patriotic War.
While taxiing, taking off and landing, the pilot did not look at the course, but at 30-45 degrees into the side front window of the "lantern". He always had a "dead" zone ahead of the course, until the plane lifted a "tail" during takeoff. When landing, you must shift your gaze from the "hood" to "side ground control".
This arrangement is "convenient" for placing a tank for chemicals and at the same time protects the aircraft from the "hood", but does not guarantee this when the tank is empty, ie, after landing. If the plane is operated from an airfield with hard ground or artificial turf (as is the "obligation" in the West), then this problem is not critical, and if from "collective farm fields" (as is customary in our country), then there have been and will be real problems. As the statistics show, in our "chemistry" they put on the "nose" An-2 and Yak-12. not during takeoff or landing, but during taxiing. These are, in a nutshell, common problems for aircraft with such a layout. Each type of aircraft has its advantages and disadvantages. He must meet the assigned task. An aircraft has not yet been created without cons, including the AT-400 and T500

[kakvastam]

I noticed long ago that functional illiteracy is the scourge of our time, but I did not expect such problems with the detection of obvious differences! And the differences there are sea, the shape of the tail boom, for example, is very different from both the "camel" and the "tractor".
The fact that the airplane has a flashlight sticking out like an acne, the lower position of the wing only means that such a layout corresponds to the tasks being solved, and not that someone ripped something off from someone.

[askort154]

venik

PS In fact, in Russian, the word "salanchik" is absent .... Usually they write "salt marsh" (2 grammatical errors in 1 word at once ... You need to be ABLE !!!)


For that I put +! Born in the Kuban, the reciprocity of O and A still skips. But in general, on the topic, how many times have I promised not to engage in polemics with non-professionals. Today, alas, I could not restrain myself.

[sib.ataman]

Since Soviet times, there has been a constant discussion about small aircraft. They discussed everything, they discussed it, and there it is! .. Less than 50 years later, it appeared! Any boat has its own meaning and purpose, even a raft! The same story in aviation! Even a kite with a video camera can be an observer, at least!

[denart50]

"In fact, we are talking about an attempt to replace such workhorses as the An-2, which have performed and continue to perform a truly colossal amount of work in various sectors of the economy, including agriculture"...

The machine, it seems, is not bad ... But I just don’t understand why they even try to call it an agricultural tractor (to replace the An-2) ???
For monitoring fields, rivers, lakes, steppes and forests - yes, a great little thing ...
But for agriculture ... Inside the An-2 there was either a bunker for bulk chemicals (herbicides, or fertilizers) or a tank with liquid substances ... But on this plane - you don’t put anything, you don’t hang ...
In general, the marketing promotion of a bird does not quite correspond to practical reality, as it seems to me ...

[Rusfaner]

And what is "our" there? - amersky "Aerotraktor".

[seregatara1969]

for our open spaces an-12 must be rural