"Admiral Kuznetsov" gets up for dock repair

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The heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov, undergoing repairs at the 35 th shipyard, which is a branch of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center, is being prepared for transfer to a floating dock. Towing and installing a cruiser to the floating dock PD-50 in Murmansk will begin on September 14 and last for three days, reports TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex.

"Admiral Kuznetsov" gets up for dock repair




As explained by the source, the 14 of September the cruiser will begin to withdraw from the berth of the 35 th ship repair plant. Since the procedure for placing the ship in the dock is not simple, then it takes three days. Completion of the procedure is scheduled for September 17. During the installation of "Admiral Kuznetsov" in a floating dock to perform many tasks. First, the tugs will bring the aircraft carrier to the floating dock, after which they will slowly lead there and fix it with the help of special devices. After that, water is pumped out of the dock and the reliability of the ship mounts is checked. During the dock repair to check the shaft lines of the aircraft carrying cruiser.

The PD-50 floating dock is one of the largest docks of this type in the world. It was built in 1980 in Sweden by order of the Navy. fleet USSR. The dock is designed to repair large surface ships. The length of the dock is 330 meters, width - 67 meters, carrying capacity - 80 thousand tons.
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  1. +8
    8 September 2018 19: 40
    The TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" currently has boilers on the deck. Initially, they wanted to replace 4 out of 8, but in the end they seem to change all 8.


    1. -29
      8 September 2018 19: 45
      Yes, do not torment the old, let me die with dignity .....
      1. +27
        8 September 2018 19: 57
        [quote = Jolly oldster sailor]let me die with dignity ..... [/quote]
        Always have time to die with dignity. And living with dignity is more difficult! Let him live on the Glory of the Fatherland! Performs his duties in full.
        1. -21
          8 September 2018 20: 01
          Yur, worthy, it's like? To the full, you say ... This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?
          1. +10
            8 September 2018 20: 16
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?

            This suggests that you should not delay upgrading / updating. Dear cars are lost due to trifles like a bursting cable of an aerofinisher. Less is not from me.
          2. +24
            8 September 2018 21: 04
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?

            And what does it have to do with two (TWO Karl !!!) airplanes and replacing boilers and checking the shaft line? What does it mean .... Karl !!!!!!!!!!! ????????.
            Carl, you confuse the parallel with the soft.
          3. +9
            8 September 2018 21: 28
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            Yur, worthy, it's like? To the full, you say ... This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?
            Nothing teaches as the awareness of their mistakes. This is one of the main means of self-education. Only the one who does nothing is not mistaken.

            Code of Honor of a Russian officer, 1904
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              1. +3
                8 September 2018 22: 41
                And of course they did not prosrai the country, but someone else.
                Let's be responsible for ourselves and not touch the story! And then in words then all the heroes .. And if you dig around, then you can find fault with anyone!
              2. t-4
                +5
                9 September 2018 00: 15
                Quote: For example
                Those who betrayed the King and violated the oath? Honor officer you say? And what was it expressed in the generation of 1904?

                Wow!
                And now in your phrase, change the year to 1991, and replace the word "Tsar" with "Soviet power".
                What will happen? But it turns out that all the regulars in VO should become small, small, wrap themselves in a rag and crawl under the nearest pebble ...
                belay
                1. 0
                  9 September 2018 00: 59
                  But this sore subject should not be reminded to our patriots)))
            2. LMN
              +3
              9 September 2018 00: 02
              Quote: 30 vis
              Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
              Yur, worthy, it's like? To the full, you say ... This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?
              Nothing teaches as the awareness of their mistakes. This is one of the main means of self-education. Only the one who does nothing is not mistaken.

              Code of Honor of a Russian officer, 1904


              You know, the quote from the work of captain Kulchinsky is not a very strong argument. lol... especially when it comes to aircraft carriers
          4. +2
            8 September 2018 21: 31
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            Yur, worthy, it's like? To the full, you say ... This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?

            I hope that after the upgrade the emergency network will be installed.
          5. +5
            9 September 2018 02: 37
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            Yur, worthy, it's like? To the full, you say ... This is when two (TWO, Karl !!!) aircraft fell into the sea ..........?

            and what about stars and stripes?
            Opening Wikipedia ...

            1) 7 January 2008 of the Year - F / A-18E and F / A-18F “Super Hornet” (middle numbers 166656 and 166632, 105-th attack fighter squadron, 3-th aircraft carrier wing of the US Navy) - Persian Gulf
            two F / A-18 fighter-bomber collided over the Persian Gulf, returning to the aircraft carrier Harry Truman from a combat sortie. All three crew members safely ejected.
            2) 15 March 2010 of the Year - F / A-18E “Super Hornet” (Serial Number 165908, 137 of the Attack Fighter Squadron, 2 of the US Navy Aircraft Wing) - Nevada
            the plane crashed in the Nevada desert, as a result of a collision with a number of flying F / A-18E aircraft (middle number 165905). The crash occurred around 22: 00 local time. Fighters carried out night training flights. The second fighter that participated in the collision landed safely at Fallon airbase. The pilot ejected.
            3) 6 April 2011 of the Year - F / A-18F "Super Hornet" (Serial Number 165877, 122-th Assault Squadron, United States Naval Aircraft Retraining Compounds) - California
            The fighter crashed into the field while performing a training flight shortly after taking off at 800 meters from the US Navy Lemur airbase. The crash occurred in 12: 06 local time. Both pilots - lieutenants Matthew Love and Nathan Williams died.
            4) 24 February 2012 of the Year - F / A-18F “Super Hornet” (Serial Number 166637, 213 of the Attack Fighter Squadron, 8 of the United States Navy Aircraft Wing) - Nevada [44].
            the plane crashed 30 miles from Fallon airbase during a training flight. Pilots ejected.
            5) 8 April 2013 of the year - F / A-18F "Super Hornet" (US Navy) - Arabian Sea
            fell into the water and drowned in the northern part of the Arabian Sea. A preliminary cause of the accident is considered the failure of the onboard power supply system of the aircraft. Pilots ejected.
            6) 15 January 2014, the American F / A-18E Super Hornet fighter fell into the ocean 70 kilometers off the coast of Virginia. The pilot successfully catapulted and was picked up by fishermen. Later he was taken by helicopter to a hospital in Norfolk. Fallen fighter stationed at the naval base "Oceana"
            7) 4 June 2014, the American F / A-18E Super Hornet fighter aircraft during an approach to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) lost control and fell into the sea. The pilot ejected.
            8) 12 May 2015 F / A-18 F Super Hornet fell into the Persian Gulf a few seconds after taking off from the carrier Theodore Roosevelt. Pilots ejected.
            9) 26 May 2016 Two F / A-18 F Super Hornet collided over the Atlantic off the coast of North Carolina. Pilots ejected.
            10) 21 April 2017 F / A-18E Super Hornet Squadron VFA-2 Bounty Hunters from the 2-th US Navy deck wing crashed while approaching the American aircraft carrier Carl Vinson. The pilot is saved. 14 March 2018, in Florida, the F / A-18 fighter belonging to the United States Navy crashed.
            1. +1
              9 September 2018 12: 34
              That's right! BUT these incidents (disasters) must be divided into many, many THOUSANDS of flights!
              1. +2
                9 September 2018 20: 10
                Quote: vadim dok
                That's right! BUT these incidents (disasters) must be divided

                No one cares about your excuses either for me.
      2. +14
        8 September 2018 19: 58
        You bury it early. For new boilers 25 years warranty. Still serve.
        1. +21
          8 September 2018 20: 02
          It’s not a matter of burying a dead person ... No. Anyone who is against Kuzi's funeral - an iron plus soldier
          1. +2
            10 September 2018 06: 44
            I call this ship the only one and let it live happily ever after!
        2. +14
          8 September 2018 20: 04
          The new MiG-29K deck fighters have also been purchased for new boilers. So the cruiser will serve.
          1. -17
            8 September 2018 21: 06
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            So the cruiser will serve.

            Yes, he died, he died. His future is only in the role of a museum.
            1. +7
              8 September 2018 21: 24
              Quote: Puncher
              Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
              So the cruiser will serve.

              Yes, he died, he died. His future is only in the role of a museum.

              Tell the Aurora ... The smoke from the modernized Kuznetsov will give a signal to the reptile Savchenko who came out on parole for a shot from a mortar at Kiev’s parliament smile
              1. +1
                8 September 2018 23: 27
                Are you in the plan that the combat value of Aurora is equal to Kuznetsov?
          2. mvg
            -5
            8 September 2018 21: 07
            So what will serve as a cruiser

            There is nowhere to project power, it is better to build 3-4 pieces of 2235M with this crazy money. Well, somehow it did not work for the USSR / Russia with aircraft carriers. It never happened. AUG is a very expensive thing .. 8-10 ships of the far sea zone. We don't have so much just. And about 25 years - "this is about Haja Nasreddin and the donkey ..." pr. 956 Sarych did not leave so much with the same boilers ..
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              1. mvg
                +8
                8 September 2018 22: 08
                You're lying

                Deliberately or stupidly. What can be considered as aircraft carriers? Pr 1123 with the Yak-38 or 1143? Nedoavians and not cruisers. The first aircraft carrier was to be 1143.8 nuclear Ulyanovsk. In Montreux - nonsense. We discussed more than once.
                Kuzya, in the best years, air group 32 aircraft and no AWACS, not counting the Ka-31. What will he do at sea? Keep 2-4 aircraft constantly in the air?
                1. 0
                  9 September 2018 09: 46
                  What do you know about the Montreux Convention? .., and you are talking nonsense ...
            2. +1
              8 September 2018 22: 12
              Quote: mvg
              Ave 956 Sarych with the same boilers did not go so much ..

              The Chinese walk quietly. You just need to serve as it should, and not through one place.
              Quote: mvg
              8-10 ships in the far sea zone.

              Do we need them?
              1. mvg
                +1
                8 September 2018 22: 25
                The Chinese walk quietly

                What, everyone, in my opinion 17 Sarychs were so poorly served? And 956E, not the fact that they were so exploited by the Chinese ..
                And the Chinese put something of their own in their Varangian / Liaolin, and not KVG-4, although a lot had to be redone.
                Yes, and the Indians did not work out well.
                1. +2
                  8 September 2018 23: 07
                  Quote: mvg
                  What, everyone, in my opinion 17 Sarychs were so poorly served?

                  Judging by the fact that all boilers were covered ...
        3. +3
          8 September 2018 21: 56
          > New boilers have a 25-year warranty.

          Only instead of new boilers with processor control, the fleet, apparently, chose the same boilers. Does anyone know about the situation with boilers?
      3. +2
        8 September 2018 20: 00
        This old one will give you a head start!
      4. +12
        8 September 2018 20: 26
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Yes, do not torment the old, let me die with dignity

        "Listen, you argue apolitically, do you understand" ... (c)
        As long as there is a carrier - alive shipboard, aviation carrier aviation! No thread can replace the ship deck at sea ...
        And then, when 70-80 thousand people come to replace him, Kuzya will become a "training desk" for the production of naval aviators. And it will be right!
        IMHO.
        1. -17
          8 September 2018 20: 30
          Well, finally,knowledgeable person I connected, otherwise I got tired of discussing with pihote ... Kuzya served his own. hi
          1. +6
            8 September 2018 21: 13
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            otherwise I got tired with a burst

            Calm down, carnations. And then we write. laughing
          2. +1
            8 September 2018 22: 13
            You’d better not get distracted from your light beer, a cheerful sea grandfather, go so far from here that we don’t know if you will be back!
        2. +9
          8 September 2018 20: 33
          Alexander, my sincere respect! hi
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          No thread can replace the ship deck at sea ...

          Not a seaman or a flyer even once, but I understand the importance. soldier
          1. -3
            8 September 2018 20: 45
            Quote: bouncyhunter

            Not a seaman or a flyer even once soldier

            And where do you climb then, friend of hearts? wink
            1. +9
              8 September 2018 20: 49
              Lesha, and you yourself have never once land? So what do I observe you in topics far from the water? Bash on bash, huh? wink
              1. +1
                8 September 2018 20: 58
                Hello, our passions, you confuse me with someone ... Twice the Red Banner Baltic Fleet, 64 Brigades of the 264th Division of the Baltic Fleet Naval Aviation Regiment ... Forgot? IPC 105 Board number !!!
                1. +13
                  8 September 2018 21: 02
                  You either read inattentively, or one of two things: I said that you are not a land person, but I am not indignant that you write in topics far from water? So why are you outraged by my comments?
                  1. +1
                    8 September 2018 21: 09
                    Yes, I don’t resent, I, with my inherent irony, comment on you, land. It infuriates me when you climb there without knowing where ... I don’t climb, whack, whack when you talk about your affairs .. ....
                    1. +12
                      8 September 2018 21: 14
                      And would you moderate your emotions and ambitions - you see, would it be easier to communicate with people? Yes It is not necessary to see the enemy in all who disagree with your opinion. Be able to respect the opinions of others, and not to impose your own.
                      1. +2
                        8 September 2018 21: 35
                        I just expressed my opinion calmly and judiciously, and you have blundered me for it together. good
                    2. +6
                      8 September 2018 21: 44
                      Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                      I just expressed my opinion calmly and judiciously, and you have blundered me for it together.

                      Do not lead in vain. And if you started the topic about the minuses - so what did you want if you bury "Admiral Kuznetsov" alive? I, landlord, and then stand up for him. And you ???
                      1. 0
                        8 September 2018 21: 48
                        Well, make yourself a mercy, merry. And I am merry-
                        And since we can’t, then there’s nothing. wink
                    3. +5
                      8 September 2018 21: 53
                      Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                      Well, make yourself a mercy, merry. And I am merry-

                      Do not misinterpret the words - it is ugly. No. And if you are already signing up for American aircraft carriers, you would have changed the flag to the star-striped standard there ... sad
                      1. +1
                        8 September 2018 22: 13
                        Don’t tell me, wise guy. wink
                      2. +5
                        8 September 2018 23: 16
                        Dill, too, everywhere is trying among the yellow-blakitnyh either state or European flag stick. However, it doesn’t get better there wink
                    4. +5
                      8 September 2018 22: 16
                      Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                      Don’t tell me, wise guy. wink

                      So you showed your whole level of culture and education. Yes
                      1. -5
                        8 September 2018 23: 30
                        pot calls the kettle black
                2. +8
                  8 September 2018 21: 55
                  Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                  Baltiysky Fleet, 64 Brigades of the 264 Division of the OVRA Baltic Navy ... Forgot? IPC 105 Board number !!!

                  In this "view" everything says by itself - both ignorance and foolishness. Such sailors will go out to sea a couple of times during the service, they will dirtied the latrine while rolling with the wastes of the body, but then they carry the whole vest without removing ...
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          2. +7
            8 September 2018 22: 22
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Not a seaman or a flyer even once, but I understand the importance

            Hi Paul! hi
            This is not a hindrance. Remember how the first Russian emperor: Guided by common sense and the good of the cause!
            And also: To speak not in writing, so that the nonsense of everyone was visible ...
            But it’s better, of course, on a sober head ... With a colleague, a clear OUT !!! Although the epaulette is naval.
            But.
            1. +5
              8 September 2018 22: 40
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Guided by common sense and the good of the cause!

              The right words, do not quibble.
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              To speak not in writing, so that the nonsense of everyone was visible ...

              And this is completely carved in gold to be guilty in tablets.
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Explicit OUT with a colleague !!! Although the epaulette is naval.

              Here it’s not for me to judge, especially since it’s not mine. But even those from the naval fraternity spoke out those whose opinion I am listening to (as well as yours), so I will remain silent tactfully.
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              But.

              For some reason, Leontyev comes to mind with his program "However" and his signature greeting:
      5. +10
        8 September 2018 21: 23
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Yes, do not torment the old, let me die with dignity

        Old "kind" sailor (it seems that the nickname is translated), do not suffer, die with dignity.
        1. 0
          8 September 2018 21: 30
          Where are you going? laughing
          1. +8
            8 September 2018 21: 55
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            -2
            Where are you going?

            Who are you ??????
            And yet, are you not allowed (Karl !!!!!) to ask you our site? .
            And rudeness is an imitation of your weakness by you. Well, there are no arguments, so Hamly. You are a weak person., Although the CCM (from your words)
      6. +3
        9 September 2018 00: 09
        The most worthy death is death in battle (for a combat unit).
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      1. +8
        8 September 2018 20: 11
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        change 4 to new ones.

        Flotprom writes about 8 new boilers.
        Heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser (TAVKR) of project 11435 "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" received new high-pressure steam boilers KVG-4 of Russian production. New units were manufactured and delivered to the 35th shipyard in the spring-summer of 2018, now they are already being mounted on the ship. Mil.Press FlotProm was informed about this by two sources - in the Russian defense industry and in the Northern Fleet. According to an informed source in the industry, the resource eight new boilers KVG-4 will be 25 years. The source added that the military refused to significantly upgrade the units.

        https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F45/
        1. -8
          8 September 2018 20: 16
          Believe them, they write .... winkFour. FOUR.FOUR,Charles!!!
          1. +15
            8 September 2018 21: 08
            Yes 8 Karl !!!!! Eight. Well, it’s not for you, you our knowledgeable, to believe.
            1. +3
              8 September 2018 21: 33
              Quote: Borisovich
              Well, it’s not for you, you our knowledgeable, to believe.

              Seem the old sailor tightly kneeling ......
              1. +8
                8 September 2018 21: 45
                Quote: 30 vis
                Seem the old sailor

                Maybe vypimsya, and maybe insanity, senile. He’s a sailor with us. laughing But most likely both.
                1. +1
                  8 September 2018 21: 58
                  Would I tell you, the truth is, or is it really a bird that is not happy with itself ???
                  1. +7
                    8 September 2018 22: 01
                    Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                    Would say

                    So tell me what it is here. Cut the uterus - the truth. Then the guys on the site wrote that you are a fan of nasty things to write in PM. So go ahead, to the embrasure.
                    1. 0
                      8 September 2018 22: 19
                      The guys told you. What are these? wink
                      1. +6
                        9 September 2018 07: 41
                        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                        The guys told you. What are these? wink

                        Read your opponent’s posts carefully. And there black on white it is written
                        Then the guys on the site wrote,

                        Do you feel the difference between WRITTEN and SAID, or feel?
                        And then, and who wrote that it was today ?. Read the posts of members of the forum, maybe you will find who and when it was written. Wish you success.
          2. +6
            8 September 2018 22: 15
            You don't understand anything hi Kuzya is still awesome, and I hope I will prove my worth more than once !!! hi
            1. +3
              8 September 2018 22: 23
              Seryog, don’t get involved, I’m butting all kinds of people there. hiAnd they, except for the minuses, have nothing to answer me, poor .... laughing
              1. 0
                9 September 2018 09: 39
                Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                Seryog, don’t get involved, I’m butting all kinds of people there.

                Something is not noticeable belay You shine your knowledge and reasonedly so explain: why this aircraft carrier cannot be upgraded and its time has passed?
  2. +4
    8 September 2018 19: 41
    Podlatat move and in the first line of it. With an air wing to decide --- MiG worked on the Indians, let them be from now on.
  3. +3
    8 September 2018 19: 45
    "... The PL-50 floating dock is one of the largest docks ..." what
    I, old, always thought that a submarine is a submarine, but it turns out to be a MLC.
    Stunned
    1. -7
      8 September 2018 19: 51
      That's right, you thought-DOK, this is the place where conscripts drunken come off ... laughingI got knocked out more than one tooth, although the CCM in boxing ... wink
    2. +14
      8 September 2018 21: 17
      Not PL-50, but PD-50
      "The process of preparation for placing the ship in the floating dock PD-50 in Roslyakovo is in the final stage. The relevant documents are now being coordinated by various subdivisions of the Navy and USC, schemes are being worked out for removing the shaft, screws, their fault detection and repair, as well as repairing the bottom and outboard fittings, painting corps, etc. ", - a naval source told the publication.
      1. +4
        8 September 2018 22: 20
        Sorry, bullshit came out ... hi But she fixed
  4. -4
    8 September 2018 19: 59
    I won’t be surprised if he stood more in repair and modernization than he sailed. Soon, China will overtake us in the technology of aircraft carriers, and we .... ,, We are a great land power, we do not need aircraft carriers, ,,.
    1. -8
      8 September 2018 20: 12
      The main thing is to keep floating cranes afar.
  5. -15
    8 September 2018 20: 15
    It is necessary to repair it in Marten and not to repair it, together with it more corvettes
    1. -13
      8 September 2018 20: 21
      You quietly peck pseudo-patriots like me ... laughing
      1. +5
        8 September 2018 21: 22
        Alexy, healthy criticism will only benefit! Understand people correctly - "Kuzya" is a symbol for the country, it needs a replacement, and only after we build something newer, "Kuzya" can be translated into training, or a museum on board can be arranged! It’s just stupid and uneconomical to put it on pins and needles! !!
      2. +3
        8 September 2018 22: 31
        A mosquito fleet in the Russian Federation is enough, Russia would have a couple or better three TAVKR in the company to Kuza.
    2. +11
      8 September 2018 22: 00
      Quote: Clever man
      It is necessary to repair it in Marten and not to repair it, together with it more corvettes

      ".... Are you passionate, Paramosha..." (with) laughing
      An aircraft carrier is needed today, not corvettes the day after tomorrow.
  6. -7
    8 September 2018 20: 28
    The ship is in a terrible state ... I don’t even understand what kind of chassis it can be put under sanctions? Yes, and shock rockets have not yet figured out apparently ...
    1. +4
      8 September 2018 22: 38
      They will repair it and deal with the missiles, so Kuzya is still swimming.
      1. 0
        8 September 2018 23: 22
        It swims ... tastes of the old saying.
        1. +2
          8 September 2018 23: 48
          Express your opinion about Kuz better hi
    2. +1
      9 September 2018 09: 57
      have you personally checked his condition? or what "friend" said ???
  7. +6
    8 September 2018 20: 49
    Quote: Samara_63
    The ship is in a terrible state ... I don’t even understand what kind of chassis it can be put under sanctions? Yes, and shock rockets have not yet figured out apparently ...

    Well, they’ll figure it out, don’t have to bury it alive, it’s still like the okey-seas!
  8. -3
    8 September 2018 21: 21
    All in science. Now the patriots are going through the stage of denial: "Yes, you are lying, you are all liar liberals, Kuzya will show everyone else!"
    Then anger will come. "What the hell are they postponing! Where did the bastards spend their money, plant / shoot the reptiles, the Stalin will be gone!"
    Then the bidding "Well, it's okay, let it sit in a sludge, and then the money will be allocated and completed, because they spent so much money, they will not abandon it, now it is more important to finish building the submarine, this is a priority ..."
    Well, at the end of the depression "but how is it, why is everything bad, after all, this is the last chance for carrier-based aviation ..." and the adoption "apparently it is not destiny for Russia to have an aircraft carrier."
    1. +6
      8 September 2018 22: 54
      Quote: Puncher
      -3 All for science.

      Well, if in science, then change the "Y" to "U" in the avatar, then the very THAT will be! laughing
      On business. The option as you drew is also possible. But then it will no longer be "according to intelligence and not according to science." Why? See my comment above.
  9. +3
    8 September 2018 21: 31
    I read the comments. The question is really difficult whether it is worth upgrading. Arguments for
    you need a ship for training deck aviation, no simulators can replace it. The French have now transferred their planes to Nimitz for the duration of the repair, and with simulators and electronics they have excellent
    Tests of new carrier-based aircraft, company support, as well as an element of the country's prestige.
    Arguments against - the ship is quite old and especially the power plant, although new, but still these are boilers with their minuses. The repair price is comparable to the construction of several 22350 or even destroyers, which is important, because the aircraft carrier needs a good escort.
  10. +1
    8 September 2018 21: 33
    Quote: Puncher
    All in science. Now the patriots are going through the stage of denial: "Yes, you are lying, you are all liar liberals, Kuzya will show everyone else!"

    Come on, back in 1991 they wrote about him like that. And how many years have passed? Do not give out your thoughts for reality.
    1. -1
      8 September 2018 21: 35
      Quote: lucul
      back in 1991 they wrote about him like that

      What a heresy, in 1991 he had not yet been tested.
  11. +5
    8 September 2018 21: 45
    Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
    Well, finally,knowledgeable person I connected, otherwise I got tired of discussing with pihote ... Kuzya served his own. hi

    And on what basis do you call him Kuzey? did you go or fly it, dear?
    1. +3
      8 September 2018 23: 52
      Competently, bravo hi
    2. +4
      9 September 2018 00: 05
      Builds himself a seasoned sailor, with all the cronies.
      Greetings, Dmitry!
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  13. +2
    9 September 2018 02: 59
    The Project 11435 Heavy Aircraft Carrier Cruiser (TAVKR) "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" received new Russian-made KVG-4 high-pressure steam boilers. Two sources in the Russian defense industry and the Northern Fleet told Mil.Press FlotProm that the resource of eight new KVG-35 boilers will be 2018 years, according to an informed source in the industry. the military refused to significantly modernize the units.".. This is the whole point... A year after the release from the overhaul, all the old sores with these obviously unsuccessful boilers will begin to crawl out ...
  14. +3
    9 September 2018 04: 08
    It looks like our "Admiral Kuznetsov" entered the state of pre-retirement age, which means that it will be VERY problematic to fire him laughing
  15. +1
    9 September 2018 07: 52
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
    Well, make yourself a mercy, merry. And I am merry-

    Do not misinterpret the words - it is ugly. No. And if you are already signing up for American aircraft carriers, you would have changed the flag to the star-striped standard there ... sad

    he is looking the truth in the eye.
    Do you want to know your main enemy ?! Look in the mirror, deal with it - the rest will run away! (Socrates)
  16. +2
    9 September 2018 09: 44
    Our "Kuzya" will still serve Russia, it is not for nothing that Ukraine has literally snatched it from under the nose (otherwise it would have been sold for scrap to China, like other vessels). Moreover, Russia has the capacity for this!
    Plus, young repair engineers will be trained in repair and study .. And they will be shown to them what their grandfathers could build in the days of the USSR!
  17. 0
    9 September 2018 10: 00
    Quote: Vadim851
    I read the comments. The question is really difficult whether it is worth upgrading. Arguments for
    you need a ship for training deck aviation, no simulators can replace it. The French have now transferred their planes to Nimitz for the duration of the repair, and with simulators and electronics they have excellent
    Tests of new carrier-based aircraft, company support, as well as an element of the country's prestige.
    Arguments against - the ship is quite old and especially the power plant, although new, but still these are boilers with their minuses. The repair price is comparable to the construction of several 22350 or even destroyers, which is important, because the aircraft carrier needs a good escort.

    As for the destroyers, you certainly bent, they also did not have to manage

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