In the United States introduced the interceptor hypersonic missiles. Cartoon from DARPA?

The American press writes that the defense research agency DARPA presented “an answer to the Russian and Chinese hypersonic arms". We are talking about the concept of the Glide Breaker interceptor, which, allegedly, is capable of fighting hypersonic military means.

The concept of the American "anti-hyper" interceptor was demonstrated at the exhibition, which is timed to the X-NUMX anniversary of DARPA. This exhibition was held from 60 to 5 September in the United States of America.

What is a glide breaker? It is an aircraft that is reportedly capable of killing hypersonic missiles with kinetic interception. By kinetic interception is understood as a direct hit into the hypersonic rocket by the entire body of the Glide Breaker. In other words, the unmanned object will be launched into the air without the presence of any combat units. More precisely: the warhead - this is the entire body of the aircraft. DARPA does not report any specific characteristics of Glide Breaker.

The main question is how the device will track the flight path of a hypersonic rocket and at what speed parameters of its own to fly in order to reach the rocket at the right time at the right point.

In the US press, it is noted that one of the goals for intercepting Glide Breaker is the Russian Dagger.

Can Russia declare American "cartoons"?

Comments

[Same lech]

Kinetic interception refers to a direct hit in a hypersonic missile by the entire Glide Breaker hull. In other words, an unmanned object will be launched into the air without the presence of any warheads.

Have seen enough Americans Hollywood horror stories like the Apocalypse with Bruce Willis.
Ramming an object flying at hyper speed and even maneuvering fiction from the distant future.
Mankind would learn to destroy comets from outer space quickly, which is also a thing of the distant future ... and here in the USA they came up with a new cut of budget money, sawing a kettlebell Brussels ... Saw ... it's golden.

[romandostalo]

So I see: Americans are sitting and closing their eyes imagine an interceptor of hypersonic ammunition!

[Aibolit]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

flying with hyper speed and even maneuvering fiction

You will maneuver at hypersonic speed, and then tell us: what is it?
1.

turning radius SR-71 at a speed of 3M was 145 km

3m far not GZ
2.

maximum overload of SR-71 - 2.5,

and the "dagger"? by 5-6m (9M723 non-detachable BB) after burning out of the TT solid propellant engine is a thin-walled can, with a very weak mechanical strength, and a large EPR.
What are maneuvers?

Humanity would learn to destroy comets from outer space quickly, which is also a thing of the distant future.

"The masses of comets on a cosmic scale are negligible - about a billion times less than the mass of the Earth, and the density of matter from their tails is practically zero. Therefore, the" heavenly guests "do not in any way affect the planets of the solar system."
In addition to the version of the Tunguska meteorite .. are there any facts of collision of a "comet" with the Earth's surface?

D / 1993 F2 (Shoemaker-Levy): at the next approach to the planet in July 1994, all comet fragments crashed into the atmosphere of Jupiter at a speed of 64 km / s, causing powerful disturbances of the cloud cover (21 collisions were observed, as some fragments decayed before falling )
Can you beguiled with a meteorite?

The size of the asteroid was about 19,8 meters in diameter with a mass of 13 tons

The Chelyabinsk meteorite exceeded the speed of sound by 70 times.

70 * 340 m / s (+/-) * 3,6 = 85 km / h ... let them lie .. times in 860
13000 tons + 43 km / s = WHAT TO KNOW IT / SURFACE?
No .. we have journalists and "academics" who convince: the S-300 would intercept (like two fingers on the asphalt)

[Yak28]

And ours will present an interceptor of interceptors of hypersonic missiles.

[Fedorov]

Not only that, the interceptor interceptor will be with a cold fusion nuclear power plant, forever bartering ...

[Observer2014]

Can Russia declare American "cartoons"?

It's too early in this matter. Even cartoons are not there yet.

[Ilya-spb]

The key word from the Americans is concept. "Dagger" really exists. And it's still a long way to the embodiment of the concept in metal ... Films are made for inner peace.

[venik]

Quote: Ilya-spb

The key word from the Americans is concept. "Dagger" really exists. And it's still a long way to the embodiment of the concept in metal ... Films are made for inner peace.

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Well, straight, "removed from the tongue" !!!
The truth about bringing "concept to metal" ..... It's still more confusing ... Have you ever seen a "concept car" that would go "on the conveyor" ??? It's more and more "dreams designers "like" somewhere so the car of the future may look like, so in years .... twelve "...
So you are absolutely right! All this "mulka" is for "internal use" .... Moreover, everyone understands perfectly well that in order to have a REAL interceptor, you need least have them (HYPERSONIC and MANEUVERING !!!), and with that they have so far ...Not really...

[Dead duck]

Quote: venik

Have you ever seen a "concept car" that would go "on the conveyor" ???

Range Rover Evoque

[sharp-lad]

Exceptions to the rules only confirm the rules.

[Kosta]

where is it really? except for the cartoon something appeared?

[Stas157]

Quote: Observer2014

Can Russia declare American "cartoons"?

It's too early in this matter. Even cartoons are not there yet.

It’s better to have a cartoon competition than an arms race and a cold war.
But, of course, I must admit, the Dagger is not only related to cartoons.

[rotmistr60]

DARPA unveils “response to Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons”

This is how they were worried about our hypersonic weapons, that they decided to show their concept in an accelerated manner, which it is not known when it will (or will not) be implemented into reality. And how many screams and statements from the West and our dissatisfied about exclusively "cartoons".

Kinetic interception refers to a direct hit in a hypersonic missile by the entire Glide Breaker hull.

But this causes really big doubts. Try to get from a slingshot into a smartly flying sparrow, which also does not fly in a straight line.

[Vita vko]

Quote: rotmistr60

But this causes really big doubts.

Back in 2008, the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (Aegis) rocket shot down the US-193 US military satellite. But it is one thing to bring down targets with a predictable trajectory in outer space and it is quite another attempt to bring down a maneuvering target in dense layers of the atmosphere.
Most likely this information DARPA is another PR campaign to justify the allocation of additional funds.

[venik]

Quote: Vita VKO

it’s one thing to shoot down targets with a predictable trajectory in outer space and it’s completely different to try to shoot down a maneuvering target in dense layers of the atmosphere

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They have the entire missile defense system ("Eagis") is built on this - a powerful radar capable of determining the coordinates of a target with the highest accuracy and a powerful high-speed computer capable of quickly calculating the trajectory and calculating the "meeting point" But if the target maneuvered - that's it! "our song is good, start over" !!!

Quote: Vita VKO

Most likely this information DARPA is another PR campaign to justify the allocation of additional funds.

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And yet - to "maintain prestige" !! And then what happens: Mattis, Charles Hooper and "others like them" all over the world say that "American weapons are BETTER than Russian ones and even more -" the very, very "super-duper" ..... And then suddenly this " embarrassment "- Russian weapons against which the states - powerless!!!

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: rotmistr60

But this causes really big doubts.

Back in 2008, the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (Aegis) rocket shot down the US-193 US military satellite. But it is one thing to bring down targets with a predictable trajectory in outer space and it is quite another attempt to bring down a maneuvering target in dense layers of the atmosphere.
Most likely this information DARPA is another PR campaign to justify the allocation of additional funds.

You forgot one more thing - you shot down (?) A satellite with a well-measured, and repeatedly verified orbit. And, possibly, with the radio equipment working at that time, which helped the guidance. In the name of advertising, you can do something different. If they shot down our dead companion, the matter would have looked different.

[PSih2097]

Quote: rotmistr60

Try to get from a slingshot into a smartly flying sparrow, which also does not fly in a straight line.

it was already like that, only there was a fly ...

[Stakan]

The arms race begins, Russia needs to be more careful .. When the USSR collapsed, this was one of the reasons too carried away by the race with the United States and forgot about internal problems!

[Cheshire]

That's right, the arms race is from zero, you have to be on your guard. When the United States falls apart, one must be prepared to tidy Alasochka back.

[Stakan]

Quote: Cheshire

take Alasochka back.

Directly directed to a sore subject ..

I feel like genes will be men ..

[Govorun]

The race is a race, only the fact is that now the United States is in the role of catch-up, and we are developing exclusively such weapons that we need for survival, and not in order to show our coolness ... and it is stupid in this area to talk about a race when this is already a reality and not only in Russia and here we must not miss the progress. Yes, and there are no such tasks to show everyone "Kuzkin" genealogy.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Stakan

The arms race begins, Russia needs to be more careful .. When the USSR collapsed, this was one of the reasons too carried away by the race with the United States and forgot about internal problems!

In those years, we were forced to cover the entire social camp, feed and keep a lot of sucking and gnawing. I do not think that the cost of maintaining the Soviet Army of 5 million, with all bases abroad, weapons and other things, is cheaper than the modern millionth, without parasites and interests around the world.
It is known, after all, that 90% (or so) of the US military budget goes not specifically to weapons, but to the maintenance of that "umbrella" over the whole world. Including to "protect" you, our former compatriot.

[Fedorov]

It's about the concept

That is, in theory, on hard drive paper. Intercept "hypersound" with a direct hit - some nonsense at this stage of technology development. However, let the budget shake, they are not the first time. And Hollywood will help them.

[katalonec2014]

Are they raving?

[Same lech]

Are they raving?

It is contagious ... Before his death, McCain managed to infect a bunch of American people with bullshit ... treating delirium hard and for a long time ... especially if it's American delirium.

[Fedorov]

There are boarding houses named after P.P. Kashchenko in Moscow and St. Petersburg, let them come without a visa, treat quickly and at once.

[Cube123]

Quote: katalonec2014

Are they raving?

"Let it be a crazy idea, do not judge rashly" (V.S. Vysotsy)

The more delusional the idea, the more money you can request for trying to solve it, motivating a bunch of unresolved problems on the way to solve it. And endlessly doing something incomprehensible, getting a very long time a lot of money is incomprehensible for what Practically - a recipe for a "perpetual motion machine".

[Vard]

I would not take it so lightly ... The main thing here is money ... And they have a lot of money ... Including at our expense ...

[Same lech]

The main thing here is money ... And they have a lot of money ... Including at our expense ...

It’s all so ... but creating the right technology at once will not work anyway ... it takes time ... and our developers will not wait for the weather by the sea either ... they will begin to improve their weapons further ... the process is endless.
So the Americans need to work very hard to get something out of the way.

[trenkkvaz]

And what does the money have to do with it? By your logic, if scientists are given the right amount of money, will they invent an engine that can accelerate to light speed?
The interception of a maneuvering object flying at hypersonic speeds is practically an unsolvable problem; everything here rests on mathematics.
Too large non-calculable flight path deviation.

[Victor_B]

S-400 (500) "are capable of shooting down any targets, even hypersonic ones." (Any forums and military analytics)
But if they can, why can not they?
It's just that they have air defense built on aviation.
Means and interceptor missiles will (have) aircraft.

[Fedorov]

It's just that they have air defense built on aviation.

Well, yes ... Petriots are hanging under the wing of the B-52, and Aegis on the cables behind the aircraft .. along with a radar and a cockpit capsule for technical personnel.

[ANCIENT]

"Will you build a flying ship? - Buy it !!!" here is about the same! Only the United States will try to buy or steal our or Chinese secrets or hypersound designs to copy them! !!

[venik]

Quote: ANCIENT

Usa will try to buy lol or steal our or Chinese secrets or hypersonic development to copy them! !!

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Your deeds are wonderful, Lord !!! We used to steal technology from them, but now they are with us !!!

[keeper03]

Well, let them try to intercept, the whole market will end!

[Victor_B]

Quote: Fedorov

It's just that they have air defense built on aviation.

Well, yes ... Petriots are hanging under the wing of the B-52, and Aegis on the cables behind the aircraft .. along with a radar and a cockpit capsule for technical personnel.

Well, a lot of those patriots in the United States?
AJISS SHIP SYSTEMS. N and where are they on land except Romania?

[venik]

Quote: Victor_B

Well, a lot of those patriots in the United States?

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Well, why should they "on the territory of the United States? You were told - under the B-52 they will hang, and behind" on a string "-" Aegis "along with the radar, computer and staff" flounders "!!!

[Vadim237]

In Japan, Poland, THAAD in South Korea, SARS radar in Saudi Arabia - our entire territory is already covered by their missile defense satellites with IR cameras and radars, our take-off missiles in the palm of your hand and Ijee destroyers are doing more and more.

[Victor_B]

Yes, and to hell with us

In Japan, Poland, THAAD in South Korea, SARS radar in Saudi Arabia

Our rockets fly across the north pole.
IN USA.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Victor_B

Our rockets fly across the north pole.
IN USA.

Well, why is it through the North ... Look, Sarmat is going to launch through the South ... And there the Yankees have norad ... No luck again, damn it!

[Fedorov]

As a former Pvoshnik, I’m scribbling something here ..
Druzhban, my S-300 officer told me - SR-71 flies along the border, and there for 3000 km an hour, we take it for escort, it constantly breaks down and gains altitude sharply. You’ll catch horseradish really. True, it was in the 90s. technology has grown.
So, if the device flies at a speed of 7000 km an hour or more in the atmosphere, and even the maneuver is laid down, you can find it, but it is unrealistic to direct something and bring down a direct hit, but there will be no time left, it will simply be unattainable .. This is only in movies, saw a button pressed and hello. In fact, much more. We are always shown only launchers, but not radars and tracking-guidance stations, however, it can be the same thing. And in this real film there are three people at least, even with all the super computerization. For 7 seconds imagine how much a rocket will fly?
What is wrong correct.

[Victor_B]

Everything flows, everything changes...
It would be interesting to know when it was someone on the CP-71 that gave high to the antenna?
I heard only one case in Zanadvorovka (DV) group S-200.
And the sharp maneuver of the SR-71 is fantastic!
It has a turning radius of 90 km. Radius. 90 km Well, very sharp!

[Vadim237]

"True, it was in the 90s. Technology has grown." SR 71 was made back in the mid-60s. Photon radars will appear soon, it will be easier with them.

[Victor_B]

Photon radars will appear soon

And blasters. Anti-aircraft.
S-800. Not having analogues.

[Vadim237]

If you are not in the know, they are already being created at KRET.

[Dimon grin]

The Golodrants of the Zion States of America lie, they have a debt of 21 trillion.

[Ros 56]

At what speed should the missile interceptor fly, at least one and a half to two times higher than the speed of the rocket itself, otherwise there is no point in it. Who is familiar with the topic, anti-aircraft gunners enlighten the wretched. You are welcome.

[Machete]

Funny.
No one knows anything about the technical characteristics of Daggers and Chinese missiles, but there is already a project to combat them.
Oh well...
Saw, Shura, saw .. Budget, in the sense.

[Olga Donovina]

The kinematics will kinetically manage to land 3 personnel from each aircraft carrier before the threat of getting the Dagger ________
When disembarking, she needs to shout: "Do not turn off the Aegis like on Donald Cook!"

[vit357]

Neighing))) Good mood in the morning)))

[Fat]

Too little information about Glide Breaker. But if it’s about the concept ... If you organize a cloud of flying debris along the probable path of flight of the dagger, then, perhaps, the hypersonic missile, which is experiencing huge loads, will collapse. Nothing unreal in general.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Thick

If you organize a cloud of flying debris along the probable path of flight of the dagger, then,

There was such a way to deal with anti-ship missiles from RBU ... But, the Yankees claim a direct hit in the State Defense Commission! That's the thing.

[Shelest2000]

Quote: Fedorov

Not only that, the interceptor interceptor will be with a cold fusion nuclear power plant, forever bartering ...

Well, you really don’t scare them

[Old26]

Can Russia declare American "cartoons"?

Just right. For every development, especially if it is not in metal, begins with "cartoons", which now bear such a spectacular name - "presentation". Earlier, the protection of even a preliminary project, even a sketch, is whatman sheets, drawings (it's simple) and, most importantly, drawings (it's more complicated). I had to attract people who not only knew how to draw, but also had the appropriate forms of admission.

It's easier now. The computer is more powerful, a set of programs and the ability to use them. And the fact that modern "cartoons" especially for the needs of the public do not always coincide with real samples - this is the tenth thing. On the cartoon from March 1, 2018, instead of "Poseidon", a conventional underwater vehicle "Harpsichord-2" was drawn. But these are details. Cartoons played a role

Quote: Vard

I would not take it so lightly ... The main thing here is money ... And they have a lot of money ... Including at our expense ...

To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised that out of 3 dozen comments at least one is not Shapkozakidayel. You have a "plus" for the comment comrade

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Ramming an object flying at hyper speed and even maneuvering fiction from the distant future.

Fantastic, Alexey, is that the people believe in what they are told. Especially if these words are sanctified by the position of the speaker. The questions immediately stop worrying, but how, how this product begins to maneuver, at what heights and within what limits. And most importantly, with what speeds. As the famous character from "Meeting Place", the thief "Ruchechnik" said: "But the boss said ,,,". So it is here. It has been said that it maneuvers at a speed of 10M in the dense layers of the atmosphere - it means that all physics, ballistics and aerodynamics do not care. Said means maneuvers

Quote: Ilya-spb

The key word from the Americans is concept. "Dagger" really exists. And it's still a long way to the embodiment of the concept in metal ... Films are made for inner peace.

You are absolutely right. There is a huge distance from a "concept" to a product in "metal". And here money is not even the main thing, although this factor is not the last, but time. The "product" simply may not fulfill its functions in full and will have to be refined over the years ... And as for films for domestic consumption, this is how they are always created for domestic consumption in the first place. It is difficult for a specialist in the field of aerodynamics, ballistics, guidance and control systems to prove something with such "cartoons" because there is not only experience, but also knowledge. But the internal electorate is easy.
Once at the end of March I went to a pub to drink 100 grams of cognac. So they discussed about missiles, sorry for the unflattering word "women". one of them sells on the market, the second is a newspaper editor, and the third is a medical worker. This is where the "great power of art" lies. Such "internal" cinema makes all specialists

Quote: venik

So you are absolutely right! All this "mulka" is for "internal use" .... Moreover, everyone understands perfectly well that in order to have a REAL interceptor, you must at least have imsheni (HYPERSONIC and MANEUVERABLE !!!), and with that they have it. ..Not really...

Here, namesake, there are absolutely no problems. Any of the suitable missiles is taken, a product aerodynamically resembling a target (Avangard, for example, or Dagger) is placed on it and launched towards the missile defense research site. From this missile defense research site, an interceptor missile with approximately the same "concept" is launched towards it. So much for a target with hypersonic flight characteristics. And with such targets they have just "very". The choice of missiles for testing both targets and interceptors is very large. Take what you need and use ...

Quote: Vita VKO

Back in 2008, the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (Aegis) rocket shot down the US-193 US military satellite. But it is one thing to bring down targets with a predictable trajectory in outer space and it is quite another attempt to bring down a maneuvering target in dense layers of the atmosphere.
Most likely this information DARPA is another PR campaign to justify the allocation of additional funds.

And only a round idiot will hit the target in the dense layers of the atmosphere. There are more suitable sections of the trajectory of such a goal for this. Just knocking down the target in dense layers will be much easier, since in accordance with the laws of real physics the speed of such a target will be much less than the characteristics declared from the screen

Quote: venik

They have the entire missile defense system ("Eagis") is built on this - a powerful radar capable of determining the coordinates of a target with the highest accuracy and a powerful high-speed computer capable of quickly calculating the trajectory and calculating the "meeting point" But if the target maneuvered - that's it! "our song is good, start over" !!!

Dear namesake. The entire air defense and missile defense system is built around the world on this. It is not for nothing that the main executors of the systems are not missile developers, as in the missile forces of any purpose or in aviation, but radar developers. And it is to the central powerful radar that all information from various sources, radar and optical, flows. Our "heart" of the missile defense system is also the Don-2NM radar in the Moscow region, and by no means interceptor missiles

Quote: Fedorov

That is, in theory, on hard drive paper. To intercept "hypersound" with a direct hit of fool is some kind of nonsense at this stage of technology development. However, let the budget shake, they are not the first time. And Hollywood will help them.

Well, the possibility of intercepting ballistic missile warheads flying at hypersonic speeds is not nonsense, but the realities of the modern world. What is the difficulty of intercepting the same "Vanguard" flying at a speed of 25M in a straight line at an altitude of, for example, 800-1000 km? Or to intercept the "Dagger" at the time of engine shutdown and for the first time after the start of its descent Is this an absolutely unsolvable ballistic problem?

Quote: Victor_B

Well, a lot of those patriots in the United States?
AJISS SHIP SYSTEMS. N and where are they on land except Romania?

Exactly the same question, but a counter one can be asked, and what, "Daggers" will be able to be over the territory of the continental United States ???

Quote: Machete

Funny.
No one knows anything about the technical characteristics of Daggers and Chinese missiles, but there is already a project to combat them.
Oh well...
Saw, Shura, saw .. Budget, in the sense.

I am very glad that you find it funny. The question is that in the structure of each state there is such a structure as intelligence. In its various guises. And believe me, these structures, especially the military or technical ones, do not eat their bread for nothing. And they almost never "broadcast" openly about their achievements and the material they got. And the data obtained by intelligence, no matter whether it is Russian, American or Chinese, falls on the developers' tables, and is not published in the media. How much do we know what information has leaked to the west on our hypersonic developments. We know that there is a defendant and that there was a leak several years ago. So? What has leaked? What are the critical technologies and data. You and I may not know the characteristics of these products, which does not mean that our enemy does not know this either.
And we have only hehankah yes khahanki, but an unshakable faith that we can create weapons, and our adversary is such a sucker that no ...

[poquello]

Quote: Old26

Any of the suitable missiles is taken, a product aerodynamically resembling a target (Avangard, for example, or Dagger) is placed on it and launched towards the missile defense research site.

and the inscription on the side like "dagger" will do? otherwise I'm afraid they won't guess by speed, etc.

[poquello]

Quote: Old26

Well, the possibility of intercepting warheads of ballistic missiles flying at hypersonic speeds is not nonsense, but the realities of the modern world.

Well, tell us about the realities of intercepting maneuvering warheads, dapra just really rests before your fantasies.

[Berkut24]

Walt Disney is the last line of defense for "great America ..."

[HMR333]

they were whitewashed like a whitewash okay in the press they would have blurted out but a typical pumping out of nowhere can be pulled to the exhibition for an exhibition like this! in the absence of hypersound, they will intercept the hypersound also kinetically, even children will make fun of them in one word CLOUNDS!

[poquello]

Quote: HMR333

they were whitewashed like a whitewash okay in the press they would have blurted out but a typical pumping out of nowhere can be pulled to the exhibition for an exhibition like this! in the absence of hypersound, they will intercept the hypersound also kinetically, even children will make fun of them in one word CLOUNDS!

honest scammers will train their SM for increased money in increasing speed and accuracy

[voyaka uh]

"no hypersound yet" ////
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How is it not having? In hypersound, another FAU-2 flew from Germany to London.
It's just that before "hypersound" was not a buzzword associated with missile weapons.

[poquello]

Quote: voyaka uh

"no hypersound yet" ////
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How is it not having? In hypersound, another FAU-2 flew from Germany to London.
It's just that before "hypersound" was not a buzzword associated with missile weapons.

ett anti-aircraft guns such? FAU-2. )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[voyaka uh]

Get to know: the world's first hypersonic rocket.
Climbed 85 km up in 1942.
1400 of these hypersonic missiles were launched in England,
as much - in Belgium. Without much effect.

[poquello]

Quote: poquello

ett anti-aircraft guns such?

probably we need to repeat, they shot down planes or did they launch somewhere else? having no anti-missile velocity exceeding the target’s speed, it’s seriously impossible to discuss how they’ll shoot anything there, s400 maximum target speed of 4,8 km / s - all that is faster from probability theory

[voyaka uh]

"not having an anti-missile speed exceeding the speed of the target" ////
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Tighten your head, and finally understand what the interception of missile defense is.
This is an interception FORWARD. A missile defense missile does not need to chase an attacking missile - it needs to be in its path. The speed of a missile defense missile (or rather, its "warhead" - a kinetic interceptor can be at least zero. I am exaggerating, of course). The attacking rocket will crash into the killer with all its hypersonic impulse and fly into small pieces.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: voyaka uh

An attacking rocket will crash into the killer with all its hypersonic impulse and fly into small pieces.

Or "Like an arrow from a bow or a bolt of a crossbow to shoot down a flying bullet. "
Well, quite intelligible. And what is the space for cutting money .....

[voyaka uh]

"or bolt a crossbow to shoot down a flying bullet" /////
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Right. Usually they say: "shoot down a bullet with a bullet." It seemed completely implausible in the 90s.
But it turned out there was nothing unreal. Difficult, but possible. To date, 50% efficiency has been achieved. Each missile needs 3 anti-missiles to intercept.
A lot of? But the same thing happened in Vietnam with anti-aircraft defense. We started with 4 missiles for each aircraft.
Nowadays reduced to 2.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: voyaka uh

Usually they say: "shoot down a bullet with a bullet." It seemed completely implausible in the 90s.
But it turned out there is nothing unreal

Quote: voyaka uh

But the same thing happened in Vietnam with anti-aircraft defense. We started with 4 missiles for each aircraft.
Nowadays reduced to 2.

The speeds have increased by orders of magnitude since then. "Time Lead" goes for milliseconds. No matter how accurate the system for calculating the target's flight on hypersound, the parameters include the "average temperature in the hospital" of the cruise speed of the anti-missile. It is so difficult to take into account all the factors that the probability of shooting down does not exceed 10%.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: voyaka uh

"not having an anti-missile speed exceeding the speed of the target" ////
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Tighten your head, and finally understand what the interception of missile defense is.
This is an interception FORWARD. A missile defense missile does not need to chase an attacking missile - it needs to be in its path. The speed of a missile defense missile (or rather, its "warhead" - a kinetic interceptor can be at least zero. I am exaggerating, of course). The attacking rocket will crash into the killer with all its hypersonic impulse and fly into small pieces.

Think what nonsense you wrote. Defeat standing (hanging) or slowly flying. This is how much you need to have on the front of the missile defense system, in order to meet it, without lateral movement (or with minimal, slow), to get on the forehead. To effectively shoot down, you need speeds at least twice the speed of the target. Then you can cover quite decent distances along the front and catch not only in the forehead, but also in the tail. Which is more effective at times.

[voyaka uh]

"but also in the tail. Which is more efficient, at times" ////
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The most ineffective from the point of view of physics that you can invent is to chase a fast-flying object.
Do you watch football? The goalkeeper gets in the way of the ball, moving minimally, and does not chase him across the field.

[sharp-lad]

The effect of the use of these products was appreciated by civilians and by no means positively.
Another name for the rocket is A-4, that is, Aggregat-4. 3. The military significance of the V-2 was negligible. ... The maximum speed of the V-2 reached 1700 meters per second (6120 kilometers per hour), the flight range was about 320 kilometers, and the height of the trajectory was 100 kilometers. A little clarification to your information.

[Dart]

Quote: Old26

intercept the "Dagger" at the time of the engine shutdown and at the first time after the start of its descent ??? Is this an absolutely unsolvable ballistic problem?

Exactly the same question, but a counter one can be asked, and what, "Daggers" will be able to be over the territory of the continental United States ???

You are considering ideal conditions. At the time of action, they simply will not exist.
The tasks of counteraction and breakthrough will work in full swing. The dagger will be in difficult conditions, as well as the pro system. And after all, only one product will break through, the breakthrough task will be completed.

[Boa kaa]

It is one thing to remove from low-earth orbit your satellite with known motion parameters. But how to destroy the Avngard / Zircon maneuvering in the upper layers of the atmosphere with a direct hit is a task beyond the power of, perhaps, an extra powerful combat laser ... aboard actually!), no "flyable" design can withstand overloads, and the control-guidance cycle will not be able to meet the time allotted for maneuver.
Therefore, we will wait for the Amer space missile defense with hyperlazars as a baseball bat. I personally do not see another alternative.
But.

[Vadim237]

They will have another bit in orbit, a gamma ray that will be directed from satellites to multiple warheads, the emitter device weighs about 1000 kg, those in which there will be a nuclear charge will start to "glow" and the missile defense satellites will see it and thereby weed out false targets for the radar and interceptor missiles. And to destroy the Vanguards, I can launch several dozen X 37 as a drone for an anti-missile carrier space - space with optical and radar guidance, with reference to satellites with an IR camera and ground-based radar for early warning systems, on duty orbits from 200 to 1000 kilometers - detection of gliding blocks, transmission of information about the orbit and speed to the nearest missile launch vehicle missile defense, departure from a given orbit, to meet the Vanguard and launch of three or four missiles - defeat by a kinetic strike. Unlike Reagan's Star Wars, this is already feasible in hardware.

[poquello]

Quote: Vadim237

I can launch a few dozen X 37 as a drone carrier space missile defense -

it’s all a probability theory, they’ll be allowed to fly there so straight and they’ll be allowed, all the same Reagan star wars, fun things are good about antitrack here, it’s interesting to see statistics, well, except when traffic cops substitute a car - it doesn’t channel because traffic is limited by the road

[Vadim237]

To all this in six, ten years they will come — the probability of this is high.

[poquello]

Quote: Vadim237

To all this in six, ten years they will come — the probability of this is high.

in ten years, they will feel uncomfortable in space, from the word "absolutely", they already smell it now - they worry

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: BoA KAA

It is one thing to remove from low-earth orbit your satellite with known motion parameters. But how to destroy the Avngard / Zircon maneuvering in the upper layers of the atmosphere with a direct hit is a task beyond the power of, perhaps, an extra powerful combat laser ... aboard actually!), no "flyable" design can withstand overloads, and the control-guidance cycle will not be able to meet the time allotted for maneuver.
Therefore, we will wait for the Amer space missile defense with hyperlazars as a baseball bat. I personally do not see another alternative.
But.

Technical reasons (according to the source - P. Zarubin “Academician Basov ...”) consisted in the fact that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam on a relatively small area. Those. if the target is at a distance of more than 100 km, then the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 deg. This was established at the Institute of Atmospheric Optics, specially created to ensure the implementation of the laser weapons program, at the Siberian Branch of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR in Tomsk, which was headed by Acad. V.E. Zuev. It followed that the laser radiation spot at a distance of 100 km would have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density over an area of ​​1 sq. Cm with a total laser source energy of 1 MJ would be less than 0,1 J / sq. Cm. This is too little - in order to hit a rocket (create a hole in it 1 cm1, depressurizing it), it takes more than XNUMX kJ / cmXNUMX.

[voyaka uh]

It is difficult to intercept a dagger like any ballistic missile: that of a ground (Iskander), that of an air (Dagger) launch.
But any ballistic package has a segment of a purely ballistic trajectory. And his computer calculates calmly. Next is the usual interception procedure in the opposite direction. First, the radar delivers an interceptor to approximately the calculated meeting point. Next, the kinetic killer is separated and, with the help of its GNS and gas rudders, goes to intercept a blow towards it.
Difficulties: 1) a very short reaction time, 2) it is not easy to get it exactly.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: voyaka uh

It is difficult to intercept a dagger like any ballistic missile: that of a ground (Iskander), that of an air (Dagger) launch.
But any ballistic package has a segment of a purely ballistic trajectory. And his computer calculates calmly. Next is the usual interception procedure in the opposite direction. First, the radar delivers an interceptor to approximately the calculated meeting point. Next, the kinetic killer is separated and, with the help of its GNS and gas rudders, goes to intercept a blow towards it.
Difficulties: 1) a very short reaction time, 2) it is not easy to get it exactly.

The main difficulty is not taken into account. Since the flight route is unpredictable in advance, and God forbid, this is not Monaco. Therefore, you can hit an adversary from any point of your own territory, the number of low-speed missiles to be encountered should be hundreds of thousands. We can assume from the opposite, from the length of the US borders and bearing in mind the possibility of attacking the territory from any direction, even from the South Pole, the cost of missile defense will be much more than the value of the USA itself.

[voyaka uh]

"the number of low-speed interceptor missiles encountered should be in the hundreds of thousands" ////
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How is it? No matter where the BR starts, its start is cut in a second, it takes another few seconds to calculate its ballistic trajectory and the meeting point. On one BR 2-3 missiles will be fired towards it.
The number of small killer vehicles (with their own precision guidance equipment) on each missile defense is several. One and yes will get. Everything is very economical.

[sharp-lad]

Both Iskander and Dagger have a "quasi-balestic" trajectory, without "straight" sections.

[voyaka uh]

This is a profound mistake of most forum participants. A quasi-ballistic trajectory - just more gentle - faster! - ballistic trajectory for short-range ballistic missiles.
Very limited maneuvering is used at take-off and at the terminal stage to make interception difficult. But they try to intercept just in the middle section, which is strictly ballistic. The complexity of the interception here is in the minimum reaction time (the missile defense needs to be launched), and not in maneuvering the Iskander / Dagger.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: voyaka uh

The complexity of the interception here is in minimal reaction time (the missile defense needs to be launched), and not in maneuvering the Iskander / Dagger.

You can argue endlessly "Will intercept or not intercept".
The answer can be one "An autopsy will show".
Or conduct field tests. But how and with what?

[Skif83]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Ram object flying with hyper speed and even maneuvering fiction from the distant future

Yes, and stupidly blank - triple stupidity!

[Old26]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Well, why is it through the North ... Look, Sarmat is going to launch through the South ... And there the Yankees have norad ... No luck again, damn it!

Alexander !. The point in launching through the South Pole was at the beginning of the 60s, when the South of the USA was not covered by the SPRN radar. Now it is, frankly speaking, by and large a show off. The people, trumping the South Pole (in particular, the notorious former deputy minister Borisov) forget about several things.
1. The flight time of the BG to the target through the South Pole will be two times longer than the standard route through Western Europe, the Pacific Ocean or the North Pole. Meaning?
2. Miracles do not happen and through the South Pole the same "Sarmat" will throw a BO with a mass three times less.
3. The accuracy of a warhead hitting a target with such a flight path (in an open orbit) will be lower than with a standard ballistic path ...

Quote: Ros 56

At what speed should the missile interceptor fly, at least one and a half to two times higher than the speed of the rocket itself, otherwise there is no point in it. Who is familiar with the topic, anti-aircraft gunners enlighten the wretched. You are welcome.

This is actually not necessary. Most ballistic missile interceptors have a speed much lower than the target itself. And nothing. Half a century as intercepted. The fastest interceptor - the American GBI 9 three-stage missile) has a speed of 9,1 km / s, with a target speed (ICBM) of about 7,5 km / s. That is 1,2 times higher. But this model is not deployed, although it has been tested. And the current GBI (two-stage) has a speed of about 8,5 km / s, i.e. 1,13 times (13%) more

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: Thick

If you organize a cloud of flying debris along the probable path of flight of the dagger, then,

There was such a way to deal with anti-ship missiles from RBU ... But, the Yankees claim a direct hit in the State Defense Commission! That's the thing.

Sasha! So "garbage" doesn't explode In fact, this is also a "direct hit"

Quote: poquello

Quote: Old26

Any of the suitable missiles is taken, a product aerodynamically resembling a target (Avangard, for example, or Dagger) is placed on it and launched towards the missile defense research site.

and the inscription on the side like "dagger" will do? otherwise I'm afraid they won't guess by speed, etc.

Well, do not juggle. From what they write on board the "Dagger" or not write the characteristics of the rocket does not change. And don't care what it will be. Whether "Minotaur-2, or" Minotaur-4 ", or some other rocket. If you really want to, you can write and" Dagger ", and depict a two-headed eagle, or a star with a hammer and sickle. it's much easier) about this, and not calculate what the enemy can do in response.

Quote: poquello

Quote: Old26

Well, the possibility of intercepting warheads of ballistic missiles flying at hypersonic speeds is not nonsense, but the realities of the modern world.

Well, tell us about the realities of intercepting maneuvering warheads, dapra just really rests before your fantasies.

Are you so sure, or so naive, that you think that warheads are maneuvering in space ???????????? How much fuel can be placed in the same "Vanguard" with its dimensions about 3-3,5 meters long, a wingspan of 2,5-3 meters and a fuselage diameter of about 1 meter? Tons? Tens of tons? Such a unit can only maneuver
1. At certain altitudes in the atmosphere and at certain speeds. Moreover, such a lateral maneuver will not be hundreds or thousands of kilometers. For having gone far from the programmed flight path, he has every chance not to return to it and miss the target.
Same thing with a vertical maneuver. There will be enough fuel for one or two maneuvers and the lower the speed and the denser the atmosphere, the more these maneuvers will be less significant ...

Of course, it will be difficult to intercept such a maneuvering unit. And to defeat him, you may have to spend not 3-4 interceptors, but 5-7, but this will not change the final result. Each of the sides has been developing missile defense for decades, tracking all kinds of "inclinations" of the other side, and in our country, based on what the President said, they only do what they say.

Quote: Dart

You are considering ideal conditions. At the time of action, they simply will not exist.
The tasks of counteraction and breakthrough will work in full swing. The dagger will be in difficult conditions, as well as the pro system. And after all, only one product will break through, the breakthrough task will be completed.

Ideal conditions, of course. But isn't it the missile defense’s task to put the matter in such a way that it would be ideal conditions for you, but not for the enemy.
It is still unknown what are the accuracy and speed characteristics of the 9-C-7760 product and the complex itself, but only one thing can be said. This system, like any other, has weaknesses. And the enemy’s task is to take advantage of this weak point. We do exactly the same, and all others in this world

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

It is one thing to remove from low-earth orbit your satellite with known motion parameters. But how to destroy the Avngard / Zircon maneuvering in the upper layers of the atmosphere with a direct hit is a task beyond the power of, perhaps, an extra powerful combat laser ... aboard actually!), no "flyable" design can withstand overloads, and the control-guidance cycle will not be able to meet the time allotted for maneuver.
Therefore, we will wait for the Amer space missile defense with hyperlazars as a baseball bat. I personally do not see another alternative.
But.

Sasha! Well, who makes them "remove" the same "Vanguard" not at the time of the beginning of maneuvering, but "BEFORE THAT"? This is the first thing. Further, what is the maneuver of such a block in the upper atmosphere? Yes, both a lateral maneuver and a maneuver in a vertical plane are possible, but at what point should this controlled unit begin its maneuvering? Will there be a program timer or some other actuator? After all, the dimensions of the same "Vanguard" are not so large that it has both a supply of fuel and powerful enough engines for repeated maneuvers? Purely theoretically, it can bypass a stationary missile defense system, but the problem is that what it can bypass has a firing range of 5000 km and an altitude reach of 2000. Theoretically, this missile defense system can “destroy” the Vanguard even before it enters the atmosphere and the beginning of the maneuver.
Second option. - wait until the speed of the "Vanguard" drops to supersonic and it will no longer have any significant opportunity to maneuver and hit it.

About "Zircon" - this is really a headache for Americans
According to open data, he has a range of about 400 km, speed - 6M. From the moment of launch to the moment the target is hit, only 200 seconds will pass, that is, 3 minutes. And here the reaction may not be enough

[Strelets1]

Quote: Old26

Purely theoretically, he can get around the stationary missile defense system, but the problem is that what he can get around has a firing range of 5000 km and a reach in height of 2000.

I dare to ask - can the name of this US missile defense system be announced? (with a range of active missile defense systems ("firing") of 5000 km and an altitude of 2000 km)?

[Strelets1]

Quote: Old26

In theory, this missile defense system can "destroy" the "Vanguard" even before it enters the atmosphere and begins to maneuver.

"The launch weight of the anti-missile is about 14 tons. The maximum speed of the three-stage anti-missile is 7900 m / s. The total operating time of the engines of the three stages is about 90 seconds. The maximum range of destruction is 4000 km, achieved only with the maximum possible information support. If there is no external information support from space and ground echelon means, and only ground-based information will be used for GBI guidance, then the target interception range will not exceed 2000–2500 km.

Can the flight time of the infantry and infantry ballistic missiles and ICBMs from the territory of the Russian Federation to Fort Greeley be clarified?
For example, from the Amur, Irkutsk region. -MBR along a flat trajectory, from Chukotka, Yakutia - BRDS ...
Not to mention nuclear submarines with SLBMs of the "Sineva" type from the waters of the Sea of ​​Japan or the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (well, either directly from the base in Kamchatka ... from the wall or from a submerged position right there at the base)

All this I mean is that perhaps Dr. Michael Griffin (the former director of NASA, the notorious I. Musk is his protégé, now he (Griffin) has been appointed by Trump as Deputy US Department of Defense for Research, Innovation and Engineering) is probably a goof, if having GBI ( such a "wonderful" missile defense system in your opinion) is going to start deploying about 1000 (thousand) interceptors of a space-based missile defense system on space orbital means, specifically for intercepting warheads in ballistic areas (until the deployment of the BB (BG in their language) ... ground (and ship-based) interceptions are not effective enough ...?

[Kerensky]

The concept of the American “anti-hypersonic” interceptor was demonstrated at an exhibition dedicated to the 60th anniversary of DARPA.

Too shy to ask: before or after the banquet? Still from the 5th to the 7th ....

[Examenatornick]

in the meantime, our partners will create something similar, our guys will come up with something else.

[TiRex]

Hypersound kinetics? rave. the probability of a direct hit is negligible, will they launch 10-20 missiles per one?

[Strelets1]

Quote: Deadush

Quote: venik

Have you ever seen a "concept car" that would go "on the conveyor" ???

Range Rover Evoque

Sorry - but this is not the case.

The Land Rover Range Rover Evoque is a premium compact crossover SUV manufactured by the British company Land Rover. It is a logical continuation of the Land Rover LRX concept car, which debuted in Detroit in January 2008.

Range Rover Evoque production kicked off on 4 July 2011 at the Jaguar Land Rover Group's Halewood plant. "...

So the concept was - Land Rover LRX-Land Rover-X -2008, and Range Rover Evoque - production model of 2011.
What is the term "concept" and "concept car" in particular, you can clarify in explanatory dictionaries, or just google ...

[Strelets1]

Quote: Old26

Theoretically, it can bypass a stationary missile defense system, but the problem is that what it can bypass has a firing range of 5000 km and an altitude reach of 2000. Theoretically, this missile defense system can “destroy” the Vanguard even before it enters the atmosphere and the beginning of the maneuver.

I dare to ask - the name of this missile defense system can be announced? (with a range of active missile defense systems ("firing") of 5000 km and an altitude of 2000 km)?

[Aibolit]

Quote: Author (anonymous)

A cartoon from DARPA?

Where is the "cartoon"?
weak?
Then how do you differ from:

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[Old26]

Quote: Strelets1

Quote: Old26

Purely theoretically, he can get around the stationary missile defense system, but the problem is that what he can get around has a firing range of 5000 km and a reach in height of 2000.

I dare to ask - can the name of this US missile defense system be announced? (with a range of active missile defense systems ("firing") of 5000 km and an altitude of 2000 km)?

No problem. This is the main and first segment of the American national missile defense - a ground-based missile defense system on the marching (middle) section of the trajectory. This segment (this system) was named GMD (Ground Missile Defense). Its basis should be anti-ballistic missile systems for intercepting warheads of ICBMs based on anti-ballistic missiles GBI. This system includes two positional deployment areas of interceptor missiles GBI - in Alaska and California. Previously, it was envisaged that the ground echelon would be supplemented by a third position area located in Europe (radar in the Czech Republic, interceptors in Poland), but these plans were not destined to come true.

However, plans for the period until 2025 include the creation of a third missile defense area of ​​the continental United States, covering the industrial centers of the Atlantic coast; The total number of missile defense systems GBMD in the United States is planned to increase in the future to 100 (now about 40 in Alaska, 4 in California). In the future, it is planned to bring the number of missile defense systems to 14 (minimum) launchers on the East and West coasts.

The estimated range of the rocket varies depending on the height of the trajectory and ranges from 2000 to 5500 km. The maximum launch height is 2000 km.

Quote: Strelets1

Can the flight time of the infantry and infantry ballistic missiles and ICBMs from the territory of the Russian Federation to Fort Greeley be clarified?
For example, from the Amur, Irkutsk region. -MBR along a flat trajectory, from Chukotka, Yakutia - BRDS ...
Not to mention nuclear submarines with SLBMs of the "Sineva" type from the waters of the Sea of ​​Japan or the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (well, either directly from the base in Kamchatka ... from the wall or from a submerged position right there at the base)

There is no ICBM in the Amur Region from the word TOTALLY. The easternmost missile division is Irkutsk. The center of the continental United States (for example, to Oklahoma City) is about 9000 km from it. BRDS in Russia is not from the word TOTALLY... It has not been in Chukotka since 1963; in Yakutia, there has not been and never will be an MRBM. from the word ALL. The leadership had the intelligence and courage even to prove to the "elders" from the Politburo that the deployment of missiles there would be harmful, with practically zero benefit.
Missiles of the Irkutsk division with a flat trajectory will hit at best the western coast of Alaska, and some of the Aleutian islands. When firing on the continental United States, the lay trajectory of ICBMs from Irkutsk will end in the central part SILENT OCEAN.
And one more question. And what, we have "Poplar" - "Yarsy" and "Sineva" became carriers by magic Vanguard????? Or already mix everything in one bottle, trying to confirm your opinion ???
And one more question? Why shoot at Fort Greeley? What is the sacred secret of firing at empty mines with nuclear warheads ???

Quote: Strelets1

All this I mean is that perhaps Dr. Michael Griffin (the former director of NASA, the notorious I. Musk is his protégé, now he (Griffin) has been appointed by Trump as Deputy US Department of Defense for Research, Innovation and Engineering) is probably a goof, if having GBI ( such a "wonderful" missile defense system in your opinion) is going to start deploying about 1000 (thousand) interceptors of a space-based missile defense system on space orbital means, specifically for intercepting warheads in ballistic areas (until the deployment of the BB (BG in their language) ... ground (and ship-based) interceptions are not effective enough ...?

He or they are not fools. There are trillions of dollars at stake here, at least billions. There will be such a piece - so they will not want to deploy 1000 interceptors, but 10 thousand will want to deploy. At the same time, knowing full well that nothing breakthrough has appeared since the first SDI. And just then that "Clean" drank the defense budget. It will take 10 years, the money will be spent and they will say, "Well, they didn't shmogli"

[Strelets1]

Vladimir, respecting your old age (judging by the nickname Old) and your knowledge of the capabilities of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces and the marine component of the Russian nuclear triad, I want to nonetheless disagree with your individual assessments and opinions. Well, and, of course, bring their arguments in support of their judgments.
In order not to build illusions and conjectures, I’ll say right away that I don’t want to engage in hatred and prove the inconsistency of the thesis that today the US armed forces are the strongest army in the world...
But nevertheless, the RF Armed Forces are not in the last place - and they are by no means the level of the PRC, DPRK or Iran, which, together with the RF, are ranked by the United States once again in the "world axis of evil" ...

Well, okay - from the prologue - to the merits.
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[quote = Old26] [quote = Strelets1] [quote = Old26] Purely theoretically, he can get around the fixed missile defense system, but the problem is that what he can get around has a firing range of 5000 km and a reach in height of 2000. [/ quote]

I dare to ask - can the name of this US missile defense system be announced? (with a range of active missile defense systems ("firing") of 5000 km and an altitude of 2000 km)? [/ quote]
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No problem. This is the main and first segment of the American national missile defense - a ground-based missile defense system on the marching (middle) section of the trajectory. This segment (this system) was named GMD (Ground Missile Defense). Its basis should be anti-ballistic missile systems for intercepting warheads of ICBMs based on anti-ballistic missiles GBI. This system includes two positional deployment areas of interceptor missiles GBI - in Alaska and California. Previously, it was envisaged that the ground echelon would be supplemented by a third position area located in Europe (radar in the Czech Republic, interceptors in Poland), but these plans were not destined to come true.
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So it is. We’ll clarify right away.

As of today, the ground-based complex of the USA’s global echeloned missile defense system deployed throughout the world, in its national part (in the USA), includes 40 GBI interceptors in silo launchers based on CB USA in Fort Greeley, pc. Alaska (100 miles southeast of Fairbanks). The whole complex has been on pilot combat duty since 2017. There is a separate topic for the modifications of the EKV warhead used. Yes, all interceptors - two-stage - from 3-stage have been abandoned for a long time.
4 GBI silos at ab Vandenberg - are used as the ground infrastructure of the Western missile test site (TOR) of the US Armed Forces for test launches and testing elements of the US global missile defense system during R&D. Accordingly, there are no constant interceptors in the silos; there is no complex at ab Vandenberg on the database.

[quote = Old26] In the future, it is planned [/ quote]
[quote = Old26] However, plans for the period up to 2025 include the creation of [/ quote]
Let's talk then ... hehe ... if we survive ...

[quote = Old26] [quote = Strelets1] [quote = Old26] Purely theoretically, he can get around the fixed missile defense system, but the problem is that what he can get around has a firing range of 5000 km and a reach in height of 2000. [/ quote]
I dare to ask - can the name of this US missile defense system be announced? (with a range of active missile defense systems ("firing") of 5000 km and an altitude of 2000 km)? [/ quote]
No problem. This is the main and first segment of the American national missile defense - a ground-based missile defense system on the marching (middle) section of the trajectory. This segment (this system) was named GMD (Ground Missile Defense). Its basis should be anti-ballistic missile systems for intercepting warheads of ICBMs based on anti-ballistic missiles GBI. This system includes two positional deployment areas of interceptor missiles GBI - in Alaska and California. Previously, it was envisaged that the ground echelon would be supplemented by a third position area located in Europe (radar in the Czech Republic, interceptors in Poland), but these plans were not destined to come true.

However, plans for the period until 2025 include the creation of a third missile defense area of ​​the continental United States, covering the industrial centers of the Atlantic coast; The total number of missile defense systems GBMD in the United States is planned to increase in the future to 100 (now about 40 in Alaska, 4 in California). In the future, it is planned to bring the number of missile defense systems to 14 (minimum) launchers on the East and West coasts.

The estimated range of the rocket varies depending on the height of the trajectory and ranges from 2000 to 5500 km. The maximum launch height is 2000 km.

[quote = Strelets1] Can you clarify the flight time of the infantry and infantry ballistic missiles from the territory of the Russian Federation to Fort Greeley?
For example, from the Amur, Irkutsk region. -MBR along a flat trajectory, from Chukotka, Yakutia - BRDS ...
Not to mention nuclear submarines with SLBMs of the "Sineva" type from the waters of the Sea of ​​Japan or the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (well, either directly from the base in Kamchatka ... from the wall or from a submerged position right there at the base) [/ quote]
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There is no ICBM in the Amur Region from the word TOTALLY. The easternmost missile division is Irkutsk. The center of the continental United States (for example, to Oklahoma City) is about 9000 km from it. BRDS in Russia is not from the word TOTALLY... It has not been in Chukotka since 1963; in Yakutia, there has not been and never will be an MRBM. from the word ALL. The leadership had the intelligence and courage even to prove to the "elders" from the Politburo that the deployment of missiles there would be harmful, with practically zero benefit.
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I am aware of the Free and Amur Division - the question was asked in a theoretical aspect - START-3, however, (as well as about IRBMs falling under the INF Treaty), as well as your theoretical messages about the Vanguard and no less theoretical - about "possible opportunities" GBI. And today we have what we have ...
Sineva, Mace, Poplar, Yars, Daggers and Caliber - as active means of destroying enemy targets (ICBMs, SLBMs and KLVB and MB), incl. and positions, (silos) GBI and most importantly, MEANS AND MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS for these complexes (in particular ground-based) elements of the US missile defense information system ...
I argue that these funds (even without Vanguard and Zircon) are enough to disable, at least, make the missile defense system inoperable ... sorry ... the missile defense system at Fort Greeley - and right now, without waiting for 2020-2025. with a very high degree of probability, not "hali like", as is customary among the Anglo-Saxons, but 0,9, at least, and even more ... And Oklahoma City in the center of the United States does not bother me ... for her there will be enough "knives" and without the Irkutsk division of the Strategic Missile Forces, strategic bombers of the Russian Federation (Tu-95, Tu-22M3 and Tu-160M2 from Anadyr, Vozdvizhenka, Knevichi).

In my opinion, I answered your question:
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And one more question. And what, we have "Poplar" - "Yarsy" and "Sineva" became carriers by magic Vanguard????? Or already mix everything in one bottle, trying to confirm your opinion ???
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And one more question? Why shoot at Fort Greeley? What is the sacred secret of firing at empty mines with nuclear warheads ???
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THOSE. are you hinting that everything you wrote about GBI is a bluff and in fact the GBI silos in Alaska are EMPTY? Or will they be empty by the time of striking (or the approach of weapons to the positions of the missile defense complex in Alaska, to Fort Greeley? Or to the ground-based means and complexes of the information system of the global missile defense system of the United States (its ground part in the United States is about Shemy, ab Clear in Fort Greeley in particular)) ...

[Strelets1]

Quote: Strelets1

Vladimir, "Old"

I apologize for the Amer’s flag in my nickname in a previous post ...
I didn’t turn off Browsec with an Amer proxy server ... I went to the Pentagon official website - to check my knowledge ...
With Russian IP-addresses there seems to be no access now ... at least I didn’t succeed today ...

[Strelets1]

Continued on GBMD and GBI /

"..." As reported on November 7, 2017 by the American corporation Boeing, ahead of schedule, before the end of the year, the US Missile Defense Agency (MDA) of the US Department of Defense introduced the last of 44 planned interceptors into the US national missile defense system. GBI complex Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD). "...

"A new test of the GBI interceptor missile is planned for 2018 to intercept ICBMs in" realistic combat conditions ", during which the ICBM simulator is to be intercepted by a salvo launch of two GBI interceptors, one of which will be equipped with an EKV CE-II interceptor, and the other with an EKV CE interceptor -II Block 1. In total, since 1999, 18 full-scale tests of GBI interceptor missiles have been carried out with the interception of ballistic targets (17 simulators of medium-range ballistic missiles, and one simulator of ICBMs - the indicated test on May 30, 2017), and only ten interceptions were recognized as successful . "

This is from Daniel Wasserbly's publication "MDA installs last of 44 planned homeland missile defense interceptors, eyes more" in Jane's Defense Weekly on November 7, 2017.
at https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2938070.html.

And there, earlier.

"American anti-missile GBI first intercepts an ICBM simulator
According to the US Missile Defense Agency of the US Department of Defense, on May 30, 2017 in the next test of the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) complex of the US national missile defense system For the first time, a successful kinetic interception of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) simulator was carried out by the GBI anti-ballistic missile.."

Key words "first time ... successful interception ... ICBM simulator" ...

Summarizing the above - the probability of intercepting a warhead missile launcher with one GBI missile - somewhere - Oh, 5 (10 out of 18 successfully), the probability of intercepting a warhead ICBM is not determined because ONLY ONE TEST took place and that modification of the GBI interceptor missile GBI (EKV II Block1)
installed only on the last 14 GBI modifications ...

How many billions of "money of the US people" for nearly 20 years of research and development on GBMD-GBI have been sawn by the Defense Ministry and the US military-industrial complex, it’s too lazy to count the notorious "sensor wickle" - the prototype of the GBI warhead - here it definitely smells like a trillion USD, and maybe more ...

Briefly so.

Regarding Griffin and the US missile defense space component, with your permission, next time tomorrow night. If a lot of work is not tossed.