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In Donetsk, a new ampirator ...

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So, the People’s Council of the Donetsk People’s Republic has appointed Denis Pushilin, chairman of the parliament, as interim head of the republic.




What the Russian media was silent about and Ukrainian talked about happened. I don’t want to draw any analogies, and I don’t want to believe in it, but it happened. Moreover, according to information from Donetsk and some Russian resources, the “undead” vice-premier Alexander Timofeev and adviser Zakharchenko Alexander Kazakov have already fled from the republic.

Probably, this is not all, who today is in the pose “To the start. Attention ...” It is quite possible that others will follow these fairly significant figures. Something similar was already in stories The DPR, when some of the deputies of the People’s Council fled after Pushilina and Purgin.

So also the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Pugin allegedly hunted ... Do you remember?

The decision to appoint Dmitry Trapeznikov was declared unlawful by the Prosecutor General's Office of the DPR. It was with the filing of the acting Prosecutor General of the DPR, Senior Adviser of Justice A.A. Spivaka and all spun.

This interesting document fell into our hands. It is worth quoting excerpts, so that readers have their own idea of ​​the legality of the actions of the DPR. So, the idea of ​​eliminating violations of the law № 06 / 1-2020 from 06.09.2018 g.:

"The said decision (appointment of D. Trapeznikov IO of the head of the republic) contradicts part 1 of article 62 of the Constitution of the Donetsk People's Republic, which provides that in the event of early termination of the powers of the Head of the Donetsk People's Republic, they are temporarily executed by the First Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk People's Republic ".

In principle, a completely understood allocation of seats in the event of a contingency. Especially considering that Zakharchenko combined two government posts at once - the head of the republic and the chairman of the Council of Ministers.

But this is only at first glance. Remember the story of the court, where did the famous "return to our sheep" come to us? Next is just a "report from the past," from that very court. We quote the presentation:

"D.V. Trapeznikov is not the first deputy chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk People's Republic. Such a post with the composition of the Council of Ministers of the DPR is not provided at all. Thus, DV Trapeznikov could not be assigned the duties of the Head of the DPR."

What is it? The carelessness of officials in the drafting of the Basic Law? "Bomb", laid down by the snarers from the law when drafting the text of the Constitution? Whatever it was, but the presentation of the Prosecutor General of the DPR was surprised. And the choice of the People’s Council, though expected, was not happy.

What else happened after the murder of A. Zakharchenko? Again, without inventing anything, just quote the presentation of the SE DNR. Well, they changed Trapeznikova to Pushilin. By and large, for a simple person who is not particularly versed in the life of the political elite of a person, nothing has changed.

The military has the Minister of Defense, the utility workers have the Minister of Public Utilities, the teachers have the Minister of Education and so on.

I do not want to remove glasses from naive "electorate", but you no longer have ministers. There are acting. And performing exactly until the moment when they answer the simple question: "Are you for the Bolsheviks (for the people's power) or for the communists (Pushilina)?" (with). In accordance with the answer will be the result.

"According to paragraph 2 of part 3 of Article 18 of the Law of the Donetsk People's Republic" On the system of executive authorities of the Donetsk People's Republic ", the resignation of the Council of Ministers of the DPR follows the death of the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Thus, from the day of the death of the Head of the Donetsk People's Republic A.V. Zakharchenko, who combined his position with the post of Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the DPR, the said body, the deputy chairmen of the Council of Ministers of the DPR, including D.V. Trapeznikov, are retired. "


In general, everything is beautiful and beautiful. Under very strange circumstances, the head of the republic perishes, and then, on the basis of very strange laws, all the ministers are suddenly dismissed. This, of course, for the benefit of the DPR, what is there to understand?

But even that is not all. To eliminate even minor protests, there is another paragraph of the submission. It seems nothing terrible is written there. But not for Donetsk.

"Thus, the only legitimate authority of the Donetsk People's Republic is currently the highest and only legislative (representative) body of state power - the People's Council of the Donetsk People's Republic."

Well, at least someone is not fired. At least someone remained in power, and that is bread, as they say.

Somehow everything is interesting. In Ukraine, Poroshenko begins to crush his competitors in the fight for the presidency. And they will crush hard, judging by some signs.

Ukraine’s support from the West is fading. Kiev is well aware that the Donbass must be returned. Force is impossible to do. So you will need to negotiate. And the representative of Donbass, in the event of such an agreement, will participate in the presidential elections in Ukraine as another candidate.

Represent opposition Poroshenko and Zakharchenko? It is doubtful that Poroshenko would have won even in Western Ukraine. Pushilin is comparable in popularity with Zakharchenko? Probably Pushilin’s “popularity” (with a minus sign) can only be compared with Timofeev’s popularity.

Moreover, one more question is concluded, WHAT ministers will now appoint Pushilin’s manual council?

Who forgot, we remind him that Pushilin was already our “hero” in a series of reports, when the above mentioned character trampled on the Constitution, driving out the disagreeable Purgin and his comrades from the DPR. And actually usurping the legislative power.

Oh, yes, we then rebuked Mr. Pushilin much. And, as it turned out, not without purpose. And now, having thought well, we can draw one conclusion, which perhaps someone will not like.

Speaking about the murder of Zakharchenko, we considered a lot, answering the question "Who benefits?" Kiev, Moscow, local criminals, the military structures of the DPR, and so on.

Today, after a thoughtful reflection on the topic, we changed our mind. And so it happens.

Most preferences from death Zakharchenko receives Pushilin. Once again, he cheated on the laws, more precisely, made holes in them as the head of the DPR legislative body, and now simply used these holes in his favor.

And who became "suddenly" the "king-ampirator" of the DPR.

Well, a worthy end to the story. Of course, for the sake of enthronement “tame” by the People’s (God, what a word!) Council, Pavlov, Tolstoy, and Zakharchenko should have died.

It remains to predict now, how is Mr Pushilin realizing himself now? We are aware that he is one of those who know how to profitably sell their goods, as he did in MMM.

The only question is what will be the goods? Or who?
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  1. izya top
    izya top 9 September 2018 05: 49
    +2
    I don’t think that the Kremlin will allow the DPR to play independent, and there will be a muzzle on Pushilin
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 9 September 2018 06: 00
      +12
      What autonomy is there in the bathhouse? With whose hands do they all feed there? So independent or what? How independent would they be if not for the help of Russia? Would Ukraine help? Or the West?
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 September 2018 06: 11
      +15
      in order to suppress all attempts of "independence", and all the "battalion commanders", whom the people recognized ... by whom? I do not know. maybe those, maybe these. we'll see further.
    3. Boris55
      Boris55 9 September 2018 10: 00
      -3
      Quote: izya top
      I don’t think that the Kremlin will allow the DNR to play independent

      At one time, the Kremlin requested that elections not be held. So how? Do you still believe that the Kremlin, and not the fifth column, steers the LDNR processes?

      Now, if they had listened to Putin then, there would have been no civil war in Ukraine now, but someone really needed it ...

      The fact that Pushilin became the head, it suggests who actually stood behind the murder of Zakharchenko ...
  2. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 9 September 2018 05: 57
    +8
    Well, there is a version about the murder of Zakharchenko as a result of "internal squabbles" after the SBU. Are we following the path of the Censor? Well then, I ask you to introduce into circulation "Russian-terrorist troops" and "occupied Crimea." For the integrity of the picture, so to speak.
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  3. Conductor
    Conductor 9 September 2018 06: 17
    -6
    Stop this bedlam. Some limotrophs hang out there. Either acknowledge them or send them.
  4. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 9 September 2018 06: 25
    +4
    Yes, famously, comrades Roman and Alexander untwisted the plot! But there is no reason to suspect them of incompetence, they know the situation from the inside, they have been there more than once. But this is only a version of the circumstances, and we will see how events will develop. But the Kremlin here is also not the last participant, this has been clear since the age of 14, and obviously no one is going to let it go by its chance. We will see!
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 9 September 2018 15: 27
      +4
      Quote: sib.ataman
      Yes, famously, comrades Roman and Alexander untwisted the plot! But there is no reason to suspect them of incompetence, they know the situation from the inside, they have been there more than once.

      Yes, you sho! From the inside, where is it - on the border of the LPR with the Rostov region?
      "From the inside", even women - volunteers, athletes and artists, who managed to come to Donetsk and to us in Lugansk, even on the most difficult days - can tell more - a practical complete blockade. Better ask them, for example, Jasmine, Chicherena, Maryana Naumova ...
  5. kepmor
    kepmor 9 September 2018 06: 27
    +11
    classics of the genre ... revolutions are made by romantics, and crooks use their fruits ...
    umm-schik Pushilin no one and to call him in any way to raise a hand on Zakharchenko ... the gut is thin ...
    apparently, the operation in pushing LDNR back to the outskirts enters the final phase ...
    played in the "Russian world" ... let off steam ... eliminated especially violent ones ... that's it, the concert is over ... we go to the cameras ...
    1. Meshcheryak
      Meshcheryak 9 September 2018 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: kepmor
      classics of the genre ... revolutions are made by romantics, and crooks use their fruits ...
      umm-schik Pushilin no one and to call him in any way to raise a hand on Zakharchenko ... the gut is thin ...
      apparently, the operation in pushing LDNR back to the outskirts enters the final phase ...
      played in the "Russian world" ... let off steam ... eliminated especially violent ones ... that's it, the concert is over ... we go to the cameras ...

      Yes, that's the way it is, many smart people have foreseen such a scenario for a long time ... So Prilepin's battalion was disbanded with the label of an "armed organized criminal group", and the operation was with blockade and disarmament, just like in ruins ...
  6. nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 September 2018 06: 56
    +15
    For obvious reasons, the author does not write about the entire Donbass, but writes only about Donetsk. If someone wants to show us Donetsk as a besieged fortress, he entertains us with deceit. As it’s not strange, some people sit in Donetsk
    in the trenches, while others lead a lifestyle comparable to Moscow. The author does not write about Lugansk. When I was outraged
    in a business newspaper about the withdrawal of military units of Ukraine and the Donbass, I was banned. And that we
    see today? The militias have moved close to the border of the Russian Federation. Only true information will help us.
    imagine what is happening in this region.
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  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 9 September 2018 07: 34
    +10
    The authors bribe with their desire to tell the truth (as far as the VO format allows). The "Emperor" is really dubious. Considering that a personality is also selected for tasks, the prospect of seeing two Ps at the table is ...
    Here are just the "fading" of support for Ukraine by "partners" did not notice: an ultimatum Volcker, an actual military presence, funding is present, European laws are being pushed through, snipers, advisers, military "centers", assistance in the construction of the military-industrial complex and prrrrrr.
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  9. parusnik
    parusnik 9 September 2018 07: 38
    +4
    The world, the theater, the people in it are actors, and everyone plays a role ... So here ...
    1. avt
      avt 9 September 2018 08: 03
      +9
      Quote: parusnik
      The world, theater, people in it are actors, and everyone plays a role ..

      Again about
      Well, a worthy end to the story.
      well, like this
      The end, this is not the end. The end is someone's beginning
      and this is from the authors
      And who became "suddenly" the "king-ampirator" of the DPR.
      Actually emotions are about nothing. Already wrote - wait for the news.
      Quote: samarin1969
      The authors bribe with their desire to tell the truth (as far as the VO format allows).
      bully
      There is no difference between truth and falsehood, unless of course both

      Quote: Semurg
      It turns out that Pushilin is an independent player with strategic thinking who played a long scenario with the elimination of all significant competitors and put the right people in their jobs.

      bully Well this is real ... strongly bent! bully
      Quote: oracul
      As far as I remember the appearance of Trapeznikov in the role of acting many were also perplexed - who is he and for what kind of merit?

      This is normal, it was his false start that he got hot on the trail of blood, I really wanted to
      Everything will be done in the best possible way, before he can look back, the saber will jump into the ladies. ...
      . But someone decided that for now
      You remember, Vekshin, no initiative is required from you, do not try to sculpt a hunchback - to portray a thief in law. Your task is simple, you are a small person, a burdock, an errand six. They supposedly ordered you to find out - is there anyone to talk to?
      Quote: oracul
      And the elections will show who is who?
      bully
      Of course. Actually, if they are held, then there will be a defendant at least in the medium term. And for the long-term throughout the Ruin - I repeat once again - remember Medvedchuk's voice over federalization of the Ruin. Which generally does not completely cancel the option according to which the extreme areas both in the east and in the west can fall off from the Ruins. So wait - whoever understands life is in no hurry. bully
      1. avt
        avt 9 September 2018 19: 09
        +5
        Quote: avt
        Already wrote - wait for the news.

        Rђ RІRѕS,
        “Today, according to several sources, there was information that the Ministry of Defense of the DPR is being abolished. One of the reasons is allegedly the Minsk agreements, under which the people's militia may exist, but not the Ministry of Defense, ”the journalist noted.

        Sergei Belous points out that the Ministry of Defense of the DPR has not played a serious role in army management since 2015. According to the journalist, the first army corps of the People’s Militia exercises real control.

        “Only a few companies remained in the competence of the Ministry of Defense, as well as issues of military awards and holding public events (parades, for example),” writes Sergey Belous.

        According to him, the abolition of the Ministry of Defense will contribute to the centralization of the military sphere in the DPR, since "all military units that were not subordinate to the Corps or Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be faced with a choice: either integration or dissolution."
        Quickly, however, if it is really true. Maybe the unification of the "republics" into the legal successor of the "Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih" republic will wait for 2018?
  10. Semurg
    Semurg 9 September 2018 07: 39
    +4
    It turns out that Pushilin is an independent player with strategic thinking who played a long scenario with the elimination of all significant competitors and put the right people in their jobs. If he really is, then the DNI received a very strong or very insidious ruler.
  11. oracul
    oracul 9 September 2018 07: 50
    +6
    One gets the impression that the main thing for the authors is to sow doubt, and then catch "a fish in troubled water. As far as I remember, the appearance of Trapeznikov in the role of acting also caused bewilderment among many - who he is and for what such merits? So the appearance in this role of Pushilin so far more substantiated .. And the elections will show who is who?
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    1. ML-334
      ML-334 9 September 2018 12: 01
      0
      Judging by your comment, it didn’t help you either, Igor. In my opinion, the authors normally dug up, it smelled like that.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 September 2018 09: 51
    +2
    Pushilin, of course, is an unclear person, but for the sake of clarity we will look at further events.
  14. Antares
    Antares 9 September 2018 10: 41
    -1
    Nothing ... Here it is.
    Are you serious? Zakharchenko rival Poroshenko ????? Yes, with the Ukrainians' "dislike" for Poroshenko (we all do not like that, Lukashenko only probably.)
    Zakharchenko was to put it mildly uh ... censorship will not miss. In general, not an option. Although now if I put them together then Poroshenko even I would vote (if one of them were to choose)
    In general, since ORDILO is the zone of responsibility of Russian partners and agreements, they themselves rule there. Everything that happens on finances and showdowns is already being thought out by HPP and other explanations.
    Ukrainian partners in this game are only observers. Their task has not changed. Plotnitsky, Zakharchenko, Pushilins and others are just a list of surnames ...
    Ukrainian and Russian partners agreed to speak directly with each other (Medvechuk) or in the presence of partners and curators (Minsk, Normandy format, Walker)
  15. Hikaro
    Hikaro 9 September 2018 11: 13
    +4
    I don’t understand why all these fortunetelling on coffee grounds ?! Yes, Pushilin, yes, perhaps there is a reason for him, but if the locals move on the offensive, then we will see what he is worth! According to his deeds, they will appreciate him! And first of all, the DPR population itself! Yes, Pushilin is more a politician than a combat commander, and in the DPR where war is at the threshold, you still need to have both bull nerves and authority in the militia! So time will put everything in its place! The main thing is that without the help of Russia, the republics cannot survive!
  16. tarragon
    tarragon 9 September 2018 11: 21
    +7
    Based on the logic of the article, any person who replaces Zakharchenko gains benefit. Pushes to the conclusion that he ordered Zakharchenko. Convenient. And the fact that Poroshenko receives direct benefits is not even considered. He has a pre-election race, a low rating, and here such a storm of delight among the electorate. If all versions were considered, then the article would be understandable. "Ampirator" say. ...........
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 9 September 2018 13: 21
      +7
      The article is one-sided, and clearly designed for people with little thought. Now, if they had deployed several versions, the pros, cons, evidence ... and since it’s not good, they nastyly spat at Pushilin. Type, if it became Pushilin acting the head (not even the head yet), which means that the death of Zakharchenko was beneficial to him .. Yeah, the benefit is good, to become another target for the SBU.
  17. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 9 September 2018 12: 14
    0
    Under the holy slogans of the struggle for freedom and independence, there is a classic fight of spiders in the bank.
  18. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 September 2018 12: 32
    -4
    And this representative will be overwhelmed, so I think those who killed Zakharchenko, like everyone else, were never found.
  19. gurzuf
    gurzuf 9 September 2018 12: 34
    +2
    If everything is as described, dill with bare hands can return the lost territory. But somehow the Waltzmann and the Ukrovermacht do not succeed.
  20. kakvastam
    kakvastam 9 September 2018 12: 35
    0
    This is the end.
    Here I am quite ready to believe in such a cunning plan ...
  21. Meshcheryak
    Meshcheryak 9 September 2018 12: 42
    +2
    From the biography in the public domain: From 2011 to 2013, he was a functionary of the MMM movement of Sergey Mavrodi (Ukrainian. Mi mamo metu), was a volunteer, and then, when the eponymous party was created on the basis of MMM, Pushilin became its member [6] [7]. From this political force in the 2013 year he ran for the Verkhovna Rada on re-election in the 94 constituency in the Kiev region, took the 19 place and received 0,08% (77 votes [8]).
  22. Curious
    Curious 9 September 2018 13: 53
    +5
    An informational kickback begins, which rests against a wall cherished by propaganda efforts of hamsters, who were convinced that DLNR is not a business project built on blood, but the struggle of light elves with evil orcs.
    Obviously, the "big guys" who made this bloody mess were impatient to come to an agreement, so the frankly stupid, alien and uncontrollable, who get underfoot, go to the dump, and the propaganda fountain begins to spew out the corresponding cascades of information support of the process.
    The fact that the representative of Donbass will go to the presidential election is sheer stupidity, none of the contracting parties need this. Russia, Ukraine and the Donetsk clan that brewed this mess will try to find a mutually beneficial option, where the Donbass will be formally Ukrainian, but under the control of the economy, the Donetsk clan and with the preservation of Russia's political influence. Something like Macau. That is, a kind of offshore with legalized smuggling is planned.
    Those who disagree with such a statement of the question and do not agree to subordinate are subject to cleansing. After the end of this shooter, in theory, the project will finish according to the above scenario, DLNR will go down in history as one of the largest bloody scams of the century.
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 9 September 2018 14: 30
      +4
      This is your maidan - one of the largest bloody scams of the century, and the DNI and LC - this is an attempt to resist the Russophobian state coup. The East of Ukraine did not want to live under Bandera’s power, and declared its protest. In response to this, the cadavers and his comrades set an army against him and Natsik.
      1. Curious
        Curious 9 September 2018 14: 36
        +2
        See above or below as you wish. Your cries about the Maidan, Natsik and other propaganda husks do not affect the course of the process and are not taken into account in serious situations. See the Pareto law.
        1. Rimlianin
          Rimlianin 9 September 2018 19: 52
          +2
          Propaganda husk? Yelling about the Natsik? Maybe there was no Odessa on May 2, there were no blown up buses and trolleybuses with women and children? Is this also propaganda husk? You did not confuse a resource by chance? Something I quickly shut up on your sites, only seeing my flag. Or do you think you can troll with impunity?
          1. Curious
            Curious 9 September 2018 19: 56
            +2
            You mother did not acquaint you with the doctrine that poking strangers is impolite? Here you are engaged in trolling, you are our fiery.
            I do not like my comment - pass by, put a minus, there is something specific - write. And you don’t need to crack wings. All the best.
    2. Curious
      Curious 9 September 2018 14: 31
      0
      Attention minus. Under the Pareto law, out of a hundred people who think, no more than 20%. So 80% of the minuses for such a comment is a predictable result.
      1. Khabir
        Khabir 17 September 2018 17: 48
        0
        I allow myself to review. Pareto's Law did not say a word about thinking / faint-thinking / faint-thinking and other people! 80/20 stands for Pareto as 80% of effort brings 20% of efficiency and vice versa. So, dear Victor, you started for health, but finished ..... For health, I mean your first koment about the further development of LDNR.
        1. Curious
          Curious 17 September 2018 19: 36
          0
          I allow myself to answer your review, which illustrates well that haste is needed in three cases, but writing comments does not apply here. The Pareto principle is used in various fields, from sociology to physics. This is about erudition. Well, a little sense of humor does not hurt to understand, given the contingent for which the comment was written.
          All the best.
    3. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 September 2018 01: 59
      +2
      This is not even funny. When it all started, it was enough just to come and talk with these people. But they sent an army. And only after that everything started. The one who made the power decision, in fact, brewed everything. As Yanukovych stumbled, not allowing the security forces to resolve the issue in Kiev, and here one idiotic decision inflated the situation. And all these years, again, reluctance to speak with people provokes blood. Oh, how proud we are. Why is it always like that in Ukraine? Are others always to blame? Political influence would have been preserved, but it was necessary to bomb the cities. This is so who fought? With Russian influence through the killing of civilians? You are cynical just to nausea, if truth be told. And it's hard to piss me off. Elves against orcs ... Ruined thousands of people, broke everything and after that you have the right to talk about some hamsters, business ideas and other things ?!
      1. Curious
        Curious 10 September 2018 13: 05
        0
        In my comments - the answers to all your questions. You just need to turn off the TV in your head and start using it for its intended purpose. There are no other recipes. Further - at your discretion.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 September 2018 13: 19
          0
          Yes, somehow it doesn’t. I do not ask cynical villains for advice. But we are in a free country, and I can’t shut your mouth
          1. Curious
            Curious 10 September 2018 13: 32
            0
            Your mouth is solely your property, which, sorry for the expression, doesn’t need me, even more so, to bother to shut it up. You can use it as you wish.
  23. Vittt
    Vittt 9 September 2018 16: 01
    +4
    Lord Skomorokhov and Staver, leave us alone in your Donbasso-srach. Mr. Skomorokhov went there - honor to him and praise. But now to understand this aspen nest - you are very naive. The times of heroes (Motorola, Givi) have passed. It's time for the cattle. Scum they rule!
    1. Altona
      Altona 9 September 2018 17: 18
      +6
      Partly agree with you. Even on Twitter there are similar opinions.
  24. xomaNN
    xomaNN 9 September 2018 18: 15
    +2
    Small replacement Zakharchenko recourse It is unlikely that 5% of respect and authority from the previous one. For the DNI in the blockade and state of war, this figure seems ridiculous. In a month, will there be a worthy person at the head of the DPR ???
  25. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 9 September 2018 21: 47
    -1
    Lord Staver and Skomorokhov! But isn’t it time to admit that the entire LDNR project is a classic mafia dismantling of small-town clans, very successfully (for someone, a little list to do?) Built into the inner troubles of our, Russian, reality?
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 9 September 2018 22: 49
    0
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: izya top
    I don’t think that the Kremlin will allow the DNR to play independent

    At one time, the Kremlin requested that elections not be held. So how? Do you still believe that the Kremlin, and not the fifth column, steers the LDNR processes?

    Now, if they had listened to Putin then, there would have been no civil war in Ukraine now, but someone really needed it ...

    The fact that Pushilin became the head, it suggests who actually stood behind the murder of Zakharchenko ...

    Well, well, and who? belay Enlighten, you are our analytical! wassat
  27. sleeve
    sleeve 10 September 2018 05: 08
    +1
    Simple as that! And indeed, a "pocket republic" to spoil the life of the "new Ukraine". This is what it turns out to be. Well, of course, pocket authorities, absolute puppets, driving thousands of people to slaughter to "oppress" democracy. Otherwise, why else would Moscow support the LPNR? Its existence is tied only to this, since it already distracts the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the narbats, which means that there is no other goal. How cute is that? Are you seriously discussing political intrigue in a belligerent country? Precisely "country", which has all the signs of such. Intrigues, among the leadership, in advance put themselves outside the law. And indirectly, after the armed clashes began. Sometimes you read and it seems that this is Moscow's initial project for the collapse of Ukraine. Not the other way around, but just like that. And like there are no known and studied political processes inherent in insurgent formations, albeit the largest in all of recent (and even not only) history. And Pushilin was brought to power not because he participates in the negotiated process (whatever he may be)? And what, every 12th pension in the country goes to support Donbas? Didn't a cheap coal go back to the European part? Or does Donbass live only with humanitarian aid and does not use money in payment for the supply of food and everything else? Maybe then it's easier to judge? There is an act of terror, there is a reaction from the management who survived. Principle. The first days, the closest associate, control, almost martial law. Further, the implementation of the legislative content. For this, the prefix IO is necessary so that the administration is bypassed, and not turn into a "guerrilla" every such force majeure.
    And in general, let's be careful in our judgments about people waging a war for their own survival. Otherwise, if by the principle of equilibrium no one remembers or says about us ...
  28. Larum
    Larum 11 September 2018 11: 23
    0
    "On July 18, 2014, Pushilin resigned: being in Moscow ...." and everything is immediately clear.
    Strelkov, Plotnitsky and their shots now where? who knows?
  29. tank64rus
    tank64rus 11 September 2018 20: 00
    0
    The main thing is that the Russians do not recognize themselves as the Russian People. Under Zakharchenko, games with Ukraine were impossible in principle. Now this is a question.
  30. kutuz
    kutuz 11 September 2018 23: 03
    +1
    "Poroshenko and Zakharchenko? It is doubtful that Poroshenko would have won even in Western Ukraine" - this was very funny.