Tehran-18. Troika will discuss the future of Syria

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The President of Russia arrived in Tehran, where the tripartite Russia-Iran-Turkey summit will take place. Neither side of the summit conceals the fact that Tehran actually decides the further fate of Idlib, and with it the main part of the Syrian Arab Republic, which was previously largely under the occupation of ISIL and Dzhebhat al-Nusra (* banned in Russia ).

The summit in Tehran for any of the leaders will not be an easy walk. Despite the fact that there are three participants de jure, the summit ultimately promises to become much more representative, since along with Iran, Russia and Turkey there are countries and forces that do not participate in the summit only formally, but have direct contacts with this or that another representative of the "troika".



Tehran-18. Troika will discuss the future of Syria

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One example is Israel, which is in contact with Russia to influence Iran in order to prevent Iranian and pro-Iranian forces in Syria from expanding their military presence. The United States, whose troops are jointly patrolling with the Turks in the area of ​​Syrian Manbij, is in direct contact with Turkey.

Before the summit, Ankara made claims against Russia in connection with the air strikes on militants in the west of Idlib. The Turkish side called these actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces "a mistake that will lead to an increase in the number of refugees."

Discussion of the Syrian theme, taking into account all these factors and pitfalls, promises to be hot. I would like to express the hope that the parties will nevertheless reach a consensus and take such decisions, which will first of all become important in terms of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Syria itself.
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  1. +6
    7 September 2018 13: 41
    Anyway, the militants need to get out of there! We must firmly hold our position!
    1. 0
      7 September 2018 13: 49
      how is it that Israel is allowed on board ...? interesting point.
      1. 0
        7 September 2018 13: 55
        We represent the interests of Israel. So then they are the neutral side (formally, at least)
      2. +1
        7 September 2018 16: 03
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        how is it that Israel is allowed on board ...? interesting point.

        Not allowed yet. It's just that at the summit he and the United States, as the losing side, have nothing to do, since those on whom the solution of the Syrian issue depends, gathered for a serious conversation in full force. But anyway, we have topics about which we can talk with Israel. So let him walk in the dressing room for now, because there was nothing to wander about in the neighboring country.
    2. +2
      7 September 2018 15: 12
      Quote: ANCIENT
      We must firmly hold our position!

      The Russian Aerospace Forces walked across Idlib several times. Navy ships in the eastern Mediterranean are conducting exercises. Now you can talk with "Partners" in Tehran
      1. +2
        7 September 2018 15: 20
        Quote: Chertt
        The Russian Aerospace Forces walked across Idlib several times. Navy ships in the eastern Mediterranean are conducting exercises. Now you can talk with "Partners" in Tehran

        At the same time, they will watch football - today, exactly, ours are playing with the Turks on the road (League of Nations). Will Dziub Erdogan be offended? laughing
  2. -7
    7 September 2018 13: 42
    Yes! Previously, this format was more representative. Minute gentlemen! hi
    1. +4
      7 September 2018 13: 47
      Why did you decide this? This is exactly the right format.
      1. -2
        7 September 2018 13: 50
        Zone of influence. used to be the whole world, and now part of the east
        1. +5
          7 September 2018 13: 53
          Yes, 20 years ago they could not influence the situation in their country.
          1. +1
            7 September 2018 13: 54
            Quote: Sergey985
            Yes, 20 years ago they could not influence the situation in their country.

            some who could ... alas.
          2. +2
            7 September 2018 13: 58
            Well, Tehran was at 43 and not at 41!
    2. +1
      7 September 2018 17: 29
      Since there, the prophecies however, that the fate of the World will be decided in Syria. All the representatives seem to be on stage ...
      1. 0
        7 September 2018 18: 55
        Well, yes, yes ... Iran ...... Turkey ...
        1. 0
          8 September 2018 19: 05
          And what remains if everyone else (England, France, Germany) lost their sovereignty?
  3. +3
    7 September 2018 13: 53
    One example is Israel, which is in contact with Russia to influence Iran in order to prevent Iranian and pro-Iranian forces in Syria from expanding its military presence.
    Israel is an enemy of Russia and does not hide it, so what kind of impact can we talk about? Russia will proceed only from its interests and Syria.
    1. +1
      7 September 2018 13: 56
      Quote: Tagil
      Israel is an enemy of Russia and does not hide it

      wow statement. the arguments? Of course they spin as they can, but they have never imagined themselves as enemies of Russia. even comparing countries is ridiculous.
      1. 0
        7 September 2018 18: 04
        20 billion per 8 million people, 50 billion per 140 million people. 380 billion per 8 million people, 1280 billion per 140 million people.
        Who are they laughing at? Can you think it over?
        Or are you measuring a scorpion with a horse, God forbid?
    2. +1
      7 September 2018 13: 57
      Justify. Israel borders on Syria, in any case its interests must be taken into account.
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        1. +3
          7 September 2018 14: 08
          Can Israeli colleagues add clarity? If it's true, I have nothing to say.
          1. +5
            7 September 2018 14: 18
            Have you carefully read the format? Russia, Iran, Turkey. What Israel? What fright does his opinion take into account? Borders? Well, Jordan also borders. Who can influence the situation, the opinion is taken into account.
            1. +1
              7 September 2018 14: 22
              Israel, unlike Jordan, can very much influence the situation. Otherwise, this massacre in Syria will be endless.
              1. 0
                7 September 2018 14: 29
                No. Well, of course, I understand that the Jews are largely to blame: in climate change, in the extinction of the Amur tigers, in the fact that we live so poorly. but in Syria they’re not so omnipotent: they won’t go to a military operation in Syria, but they quietly quietly, since this does not affect the situation as a whole
                1. 0
                  7 September 2018 14: 36
                  If Iran remains in Syria, then Israel will never calm down. So it will continue to strike. And under the guise and not only where the Iranians are. What, you propose another war to organize? Do not forget who is the main ally of Israel. And so everything is very precariously balancing on the brink ... And how, if peaceful Syria is needed, do not take into account the interests of Israel?
                  1. 0
                    7 September 2018 14: 41
                    Israel will calm down very quickly if Russia wants to. There are many options to calm. Another thing is that we do not need Iran in such numbers in Syria. So We are hinting to him with Israeli strikes.
                    1. -1
                      8 September 2018 19: 06
                      Maybe. Although this option is better not to voice.
          2. +6
            7 September 2018 14: 38
            Do you think that the Israeli "friends" on the site also want to find themselves in a conversation with the SHABAK counterintelligence service (some of them are her employees here)? Israel, of course, is a free country and every Jew can express whatever he wants, but not in relation to the United States and Israel. And yes, the Jews are free people, they chat what they want.
            1. +3
              7 September 2018 14: 47
              No, I don't wish them such conversations. I am glad that our native "totalitarian regime" makes it possible to say what you think! smile
            2. 0
              7 September 2018 14: 52
              tagil
              Well, something I faintly imagine, for example, the nickname of a warrior, and from Shabak, although anything can be ..
              And do they really have such persecution for dissent there? Did not know....
              1. +1
                7 September 2018 15: 14
                You see, this has nothing to do with the nickname. You look at how friendly the Jews are sometimes silent on the site, or vice versa, as if everyone had a day off and they were all here (when Israel did a dirty trick or vice versa, one needs to soften the opinion). By the way, this also applies to Armenians with Azerbaijanis. And different people have the same arguments, like only in Israel they celebrate the 9 of May, or only Israel supported Russia on some issue. Units discuss various topics that are not directly related to their countries and its policies.
                1. 0
                  7 September 2018 17: 39
                  It’s not true, I’m always ready to discuss and argue. We must look for the truth. We do not have censorship .. Otherwise, I would not have written to you.
                  1. -1
                    7 September 2018 17: 54
                    Units discuss various topics that are not directly related to their countries and its policies.
                    You are one of the few who falls out of the "cage". It's just that the site administration deleted my answer and you do not quite understand what is at stake.
            3. 0
              7 September 2018 23: 30
              Quote: Tagil
              counterintelligence SHABAK

              And what about the CHEAP?
          3. +1
            7 September 2018 15: 10
            Quote: Sergey985
            Can Israeli colleagues add clarity? If it's true, I have nothing to say.

            I read this opus twice, to understand what it was about, they called him to the Sabbath because he told the Knesset deputy about the terrorist threat at the time of the procession. As for the attitude, who won the war, and most of the population do not know, although at school they pass, but they don’t really know anything about the Holocaust, the agrarian aliyah from Africa and the East, I was asked last week whether Ukraine is far from Russia and what language they speak there.
          4. +2
            7 September 2018 17: 16
            Strange story. Many nebulae - for example, in which org. the author worked, that such passions-mugs happened to him, the first time I hear this. There is a familiar retiree from Shabak, on occasion I’ll ask how much m. the truth.
            From my impressions of the Israelis: “former Soviet” politicians are strongly politicized, and most of the “Russian and Ukrainian” of them are pro-American (my opinion: because they chew on “TV popcorn” without the efforts of self-understanding, plus they focus on Amer. “Giving hand”). But this is a small percentage. From my personal communications, the Israelis, especially the indigenous ones, have a “violet” world politics. Life is expensive and difficult, for the majority of 3-4 children, for several jobs, very expensive housing loans, so there is simply no time to bother with “speculative conditions”, and most likely there is no strength left for this.
            Therefore, most Israelis are pragmatic - they respond to specific threats, terrorist attacks, military operations: at such moments they unite, act together like a big family. And the main enemy is the Arab encirclement “with copybooks” of the destruction of the state of Israel (read the doctrine, where is Russia listed there?). And the rest of the time everyone is engaged in study, work, children, money, sex - with concentration and with pleasure. The Israelis themselves are a vibrant cocktail of local “Sabra Jews”, “calm” Palestinians with Israeli citizenship, plus “come in large numbers”: Ethiopians, Moroccans, Yemenis, former Soviet, orthodox (everyone else doesn't like them here, in particular, for refusing serve in the army) etc. etc. Such a mini-empire.
            The bulk of it is completely indifferent to what is happening somewhere, for this there are specialists who receive very good salaries and pensions for their good profession to “defend their homeland”. Young people are very patriotic, it is believed that the passage of the army is very cool.
            In the very “post-Soviet-Arab (peaceful Orthodox)” city of Haifa, both the Immortal Regiment in May and the embroidered Independence Day on August 24th are held annually. The first, in my experience, is more massive. Here is a link to this year's BP celebration https://politikus.ru/events/107159-bessmertnyy-polk-v-hayfe-izrail.html
            I did not find "Israeli" Nezalezhnosti on the Internet, but acquaintances from Zaporozhye were in Haifa this year, embroidered.
            In addition, last year, the Israeli Knesset (parliament) passed a law celebrating May 9 as Victory Day over Nazi Germany (I recall: in the Anglo-Saxon tradition, celebrate Sorrow Day on May 8).
            So the above story is weird. But everything can be.
            1. 0
              7 September 2018 17: 37
              Partly you are right, but this is just a very small part of us Israelis ...
              1. +2
                7 September 2018 17: 42
                Paul, add your "part". I'm curious. I'm new here. Maybe we won't even fight;). I like the country very much and the people too, most of them are from those with whom I communicate.
                1. 0
                  7 September 2018 18: 58
                  With pleasure. But I'm afraid that I can discuss these issues only in PM ...
            2. 0
              7 September 2018 18: 13
              Catherine any person's opinion about the event is subjective. And I fully admit that the statements made by the Shabak employees are inaccurate, distorted or incomplete, I can generally assume that there were no conversations and interrogations at all. But the statement by Nava Cohen was heard all over Israel (there is a radio archive), the delegation of senior representatives of the Israeli Foreign Ministry in the front line in Donetsk was (there was news about this) and silence, Israeli instructors from Bandera were taught and this was also a fact and there was news about it (I myself I read an interview with one of the instructors) and the conversation was about Israel’s policy towards our country.
  4. +2
    7 September 2018 14: 10
    I hope the GDP knows what it’s doing, once they got into a big fight, you need to hold your position firmly and tough now .... maybe again - against everyone ...
  5. +2
    7 September 2018 14: 15
    The knot is tightening ever tighter, it seems possible to untie it only with a sword. It remains to be hoped for the sanity of the arrivals and, most importantly, those who are behind the curtains.
  6. +1
    7 September 2018 14: 43
    Iran, by and large, does not need Idlib. Like Israel. Too far to Lebanon, and Russian bases between them. Turkey Idlib is very necessary as a territory that must be snatched from Syria. Erdogan still hopes for the collapse of Syria and the increment of territories. It is vital for Russia to clean out Idlib, since there will be a constant threat to Russian bases.
    And behind all this, star-striped ears stick out.
    Summary - there will be an operation to clean this adder. But it will not be easy. Turkey will interfere. So the Syrians and VKS will have to clean. Iran’s participation will not be so large.
    Stripping Idlib is needed primarily by Russia and Syria. The rest will smoke aside. And rejoice in any incident.
    1. +1
      7 September 2018 15: 12
      "The cleanup of Idlib is needed first of all by Russia and Syria. The rest will smoke on the sidelines," I agree. Therefore, the fate of Idlib is a foregone conclusion. He will be taken. Turkey will express concern, the Americans are likely to use tomahawks, but this will not affect the situation as a whole.
    2. 0
      8 September 2018 19: 08
      We will agree with Turkey. They help us (or do not interfere) in Idlib, we do not interfere with them to bend the Kurds. However, I think we have agreed a long time ago.
  7. +1
    7 September 2018 15: 18
    Notice without Assad wink what is going on wassat apparently he is really there as a manager, and this is a meeting of shareholders, while the coalition and Israel are a competing company, intending to select assets and tenders
  8. 0
    7 September 2018 15: 23
    Erdogan at the summit has already tried to "cover up" his barmaley, but Putin made it clear to him that we will finish off all the barmaley! laughing Rouhani also agreed with us! Yes soldier
  9. 0
    7 September 2018 16: 41
    And Assad was not invited to "decide fate" again, soon on cancellation?
  10. 0
    7 September 2018 17: 20
    Assad is like a president .... Where is he? Israel, the USA, Russia, Turkey, and also the great Iran decide.
    1. 0
      7 September 2018 17: 50
      Do not flatter yourself, Israel, the United States is not. They did without them.
      1. 0
        7 September 2018 17: 59
        So do we want influence, not at all. Assad will not be a political leader, if so, this is our victory. And about your fuss with the states - this is not our dance.
        1. 0
          7 September 2018 18: 59
          And Assad or not him? Do you care what the difference is? Or all the rest of your agents, but Assad is not?
        2. 0
          7 September 2018 23: 12
          Comrades Jews. Tell me, why did Assad not please you? Let's just say - was Iran's influence in Syria more or less before the turmoil? Your demand to "leave Assad" led to the fact that Iran came close to your borders. Maybe Assad was, but everyone knew his epicrisis. His actions were calculated accurately enough. Do you know exactly the diagnosis of the one who will replace him?
          I understand the desire to destroy Syria. But the situation got out of control. Someone in Washington and Tel Aviv plays bad chess. As a result of all the turbulence, we have an increase in the influence of Iran (which used to be stopped by Iraq) and crazy Turkey. I’ll keep silent about ISIS.
          You had a sluggish world, now you have a sluggish war. Maybe you like it, "which I personally doubt very much ..." So the donkey told IA
  11. LMN
    -1
    7 September 2018 18: 47
    In the second topic I already write, I apologize hi
    Now a message appears on the German news channel: the GDP has not accepted the ceasefire in Idlib. Yes
    1. +1
      7 September 2018 21: 13
      LMN

      And who doubted the GDP response?
      Or did they think differently there?
      1. LMN
        -2
        8 September 2018 11: 28
        Quote: NN52
        LMN

        And who doubted the GDP response?
        Or did they think differently there?


        And who doubted the GDP response?

        I think we have here in VO, many doubted it. Judging by the comments Yes
  12. -1
    8 September 2018 11: 49
    The most interesting thing is that all these three interventionist countries in Syria (and concurrently rogue regimes that are currently under pressure from the "West") are discussing the division of spheres of influence in Syria and other nuances of finding their forces there without any factor still representing this country, its people. Well, with the "legitimate president", according to the alleged official invitation of which Iranians and Russians are there and are fighting, everything is more or less clear, but at least for decency there could be some respect for the people and their representatives who have to live and work there ...
  13. +1
    8 September 2018 18: 15
    What is the difference between Tehran 43 and Tehran 2018?
    That in 1943, Stalin met with two other world leaders as an equal.
    In 2018, Putin meets with two other regional leaders as an equal.
    It's time for Putin to write his memoirs on the topic "How to Profuse a Great Country in 27 Years" ...
    1. 0
      8 September 2018 19: 10
      But what, between Stalin and Putin there was no one at all? And between 1943 and 2018, only 27 years have passed?
      And actually, one of the three countries has long lost sovereignty. And is just an American poodle.

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