Polish media: A big war in Ukraine could break out in a week

In predictions about the likely start of full-scale hostilities in the Donbass, Polish newsmen decided to hit. The relevant material was published in one of the largest Polish editions - the newspaper Rzeczpospolita. The publication says that Ukraine is building up shock forces in the Mariupol region and can make an attempt to move not just along the coast of the Azov Sea, but also with access to the borders of Russia.

In fact, this statement in the Polish media is a repetition of what was recently expressed by representatives of the Operational Command of the DPR.

Next in Republic given the statement of the expert "Center Razumkov" Alexei Melnik. According to him, "if a full-scale war breaks out in the Donbas, then Ukraine will not be guilty of this."

Miller:

In Kiev, no one will make such a decision, because everyone understands perfectly well what this may eventually lead to. In this case, we would be accused of disrupting the Minsk agreements, and this would have led to the risk of lifting anti-Russian sanctions.

The Polish media say that Moscow, in turn, is talking about the benefits of escalating the conflict specifically for Ukraine. Earlier in the DPR, it was noted that Kiev could aggravate in order to cancel the elections to be held in the country in 2019. The ultimate goal is to legitimize the continuation of the Poroshenko presidency, which today has a rating of about 8,5%. With such a rating honestly no one has won the election yet.

As a result, in the publication of Rzeczpospolita, the authors could not answer the question, what is the probability of a big war in Ukraine. The question of whether the conflict will break out in a week has hung in the air.

Comments

[Dzafdet]

Whether it will be, whether it is not .. Only Piglet knows about this .. Illo
Vaysk-2 is waiting for you, country 404 ..

[Vadim237]

If the war goes to full again, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aviation will use it to the maximum - casualties among the civilian population and the LDNR army will be significant.

[NN52]

Well, AFU aviation will land quickly there ... I have no doubt ...

[pvv113]

With aviation in the 404th and so problems

[Alekseev]

Quote: Vadim237

If the war goes to full again

There was no war to the full, so that a defense breakthrough by the forces of a division or at least a brigade with participation directly on the battlefield of thousands of military units was carried out, in the Donbas it was not yet.
It has its own specifics. Shoot, of course, by agreement, only on the line of contact. On the same line, military guard stationed in small, platoon, strong points. If the so-called “attempt to break through” 10-20 of APU infantrymen with the support of a pair of infantry fighting vehicles or even a tank happens, artillery fire and reinforcement from the main forces are called.
Why is that? Ukrodeyateli are afraid of the scale of hostilities - this is not the loss of 1, 2, 3 soldiers, but 100, 200, 300 per day of active combat. In addition, the Russian Federation can intervene and bomb all the rear areas to Kharkiv, Dnieper and even further. The lads will scatter from Pan Ataman and Petya Poroshenko may not have time to hide and will hang on one of the Kiev chestnuts, where not only "pro-Russian creatures" can place him, but also wide-ranging banderlog, it was not for nothing that Pan Sahak agitated them for that.
DLNR is also unprofitable scale of hostilities - their land will burn, but very quickly it will not end ...
For Russia, escalation will mean the loss of their military forces, the risk of the appearance of Bandera gangs on its territory, because the border is 2000 km, it cannot be closed by special forces alone, and there are not many soldiers in our Ground Forces, and half of them are conscripts, not looking at the measures taken.
Everyone is unhappy, but nothing can be done in a purely military way, that is, of course, it is possible, but more expensive for oneself.
What to do, what to do?
Yes, crush in a quiet one, such as in Azov, introduce counter-sanctions with precise but powerful strikes, disable l / s and the banderlog technique, and, most importantly, awaken their desire to stick bayonets into the ground, or, even more beautifully, turn them around them against their oligarchs, corrupt officials, deputies, etc.

[Avior]

or, even more beautifully, turn them against their oligarchs, corrupt officials, deputies, etc.

well written. against their

[d1975]

I wanted to briefly answer you, but the admin (fucking) does not give - you are a brain!

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Vadim237

If the war goes to full again, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aviation will use it to the maximum - casualties among the civilian population and the LDNR army will be significant.

to wage war to the fullest one desire is not enough. need finance.
do they have pennies in May?

[Vadim237]

They have loans from the European Union and the supply of weapons and ammunition from the Czech Republic, Canada, Croatia, Denmark, the United States and possibly Japan.

[geniy]

These arms deliveries are simply insignificant for a full-scale war.

[Alber]

Quote: Maki Avellevich

Quote: Vadim237

If the war goes to full again, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aviation will use it to the maximum - casualties among the civilian population and the LDNR army will be significant.

to wage war to the fullest one desire is not enough. need finance.
do they have pennies in May?

your fellow tribesmen will finance the slaughter with great pleasure. goys will kill each other

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Alber

your fellow tribesmen will finance the slaughter with great pleasure. goys will kill each other

be afraid. banks they are not well understood under the Rothschilds

[Alber]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

banks they are not well understood under the Rothschilds

almost all finances are captured by the Zionists

[Shahno]

That's right. We will wait for Mr. Tinkoff at the Rothschild-Kaplan ... Symbolically.

[tatarin_ru]

are they penniless?

Well, then they will be allocated loans for such a thing, do not hesitate. , give it all the same to the people. Now credit debts are already a hundred years ahead, will be 200. The United States is even more profitable, they will kill two birds with one stone, salted Russia will strengthen Ukraine's dependence on life. A Piglet will introduce martial law and extend power for another couple of years.

[Sxron]

In vain do you dream of Psheks, if there is something, you won’t think enough ... Russia has a lot of complaints about this matter.!

[Vadim237]

These can cooperate and enter the territory of western Ukraine - they say that now you guys are part of the European Union, and Potrakh will have to step aside, Russia and LDNR are in the east, and Poland is returning in the west.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Vadim237

... in the east, Russia and LDNR, and in the west, Poland is returning its own.

Poland in the West of Ukraine has nothing of its own and cannot be. Poland itself was part of Russia. The Poles have only ambition and claims.

[Lelek]

Quote: Dzafdet

Only Piglet knows about this..

Well, you can agree with you, given the version of Zakhar Prilepin:

[Sergey985]

Do not hang. Vladimir Volfovich gave a guarantee that only by the decision of the military field tribunal.

[Mr Credo]

And from whom to run the gunpowder? From Julia? And will Yanyk live on the same street as the opposite windows?

[Avior]

This is obvious stupidity.

[Non liberoid Russian]

don't say gop until you see op

[Lelek]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

don't say gop until you see op

Sorry, I don’t understand, why are you? What should have been "seen" and how is it done?

[shark]

The big carnage is not interesting to anyone. Warm up the conflict is yes. These are tranches and sanctions ... And to arrange a meat grinder ... Hardly.

[Mih1974]

Well, to be honest - the big slaughter is very beneficial to Russia. I’ll explain until they started to beat with slippers:
1) it is assumed that the advancing Armed Forces of Ukraine will crawl out of the fortified areas into a "clear field" where they can be destroyed in commercial volumes by MLRS and artillery
2) the death of those who "agree to sit in the trenches for money," the same is very useful, because these people have already taken a step beyond the brink of "aversion to murder" and even more peaceful people, this is the minimum of a murderer in the criminal plan for the near future,
3) The destruction of the remnants of aviation, artillery and most of the armored vehicles will already raise the question a la 2014, "how much territory can the LPR hold?" Namely - the territory will be "expanded" or the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk will be freed from the occupation by the fascists, it is also possible to occupy (finally) Mariupol, Odessa, right up to Transnistria, which in turn will remove the problem of supply and possibly integration of Transnistria.
4) a big War, may be a "justification" for the use of the Russian Army against the Nazis according to the Syrian scenario - the destruction of the entire air defense system, aviation control (radars, etc.), "cutting out" all armored vehicles and art systems, this will allow the LDNR army to attack to do without large casualties that are inevitable in attacking actions without the state two in the air.
5) Conducting a military operation by the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces without the "official input of troops" will allow you to "avoid" mmm World condemnation and I'm not talking about the squeals of the West - they are inevitable and you need to be ready for them from the very beginning, even if we will not do ANYTHING at all (they will creak, mupali, foolish), namely Mir in general, as it was with Ossetia in its time. And what is especially important, the absence of Russian infantry divisions in Donbass makes it possible not to talk about the Occupation, that is, immediately recognizing the LDNR as independent world states can already act according to completely different rules, including "concluding an agreement on the deployment of military bases." Actually, the United States broke into Syria or Afghanistan without any permission, so we create "states", place the official, but not the Occupation bases, and begin to "build these states into Russia."
6) the defeated remains of the fascist troops are driven into the remains of Ukria - let the IMF remain there until the CIA and the USA write off their debts to them or cease to exist as a Force in the world economy.

[Avior]

there will be no squeals, but complete isolation with this approach.
and if, at the same time, they announce the use of chemical weapons, it will be steeper than sanctions against the DPRK, and no China will help

[Matroskin]

Well, yes ... until 1914, too, writers wrote anti-war letters around the world. But whether the nuclear arsenal will hold back from major conflicts. The controversy is greater, the walls are thinner. And of course, it’s not necessary what will break through at our border. And bacteriological weapons have not yet been canceled. Well, so tolerantly so ... time ... and cats with dogs just run around.

[Sadko88]

So Vladimir Vladimirovich has already made it clear. Either Russia will be independent, or Russia will not exist at all.

[Matroskin]

Eh ... I haven’t been fishing for two years.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Sadko88

So Vladimir Vladimirovich has already made it clear. Either Russia will be independent, or Russia will not exist at all.

He only spoke out a little differently - "If there is no Russia in this world, then why do we need this world."

[Sxron]

Quote: Nyrobsky

"If there is no Russia in this world, then why do we need this world."

But right, why ..? Without Russia, there would have been no peace .. We are on guard, although how tired of all this already, and so we want to live in peace (without any reform courses and any media) .. etc.
But it’s not the fate of men to see ..

[Faceless]

they would have already fucked up - they would have gotten on the tinsel, they would have won the territories of the DPR and LPR back, would have reached Kiev and finished this camarilla. How long can you adhere to the principle: "You get one cheek from the artillery, and you substitute the other, with the inscription" Minsk ".

[Evil543]

The inscription Minsk was imposed on them.

[pudelartemon]

Good photo in the article. This, as I understand it, Poroshenko in Hamlet’s painful thoughts - to pull or not to pull

[NN52]

The photo (or photoshop) is really valid ... In the series, the mice cried, pricked, but continued to eat a cactus ... It's about 404 ...

[Sadko88]

Yes, I took the photo Thank you

[RUSS]

Quote: NN52

The photo (or photoshop) is really valid ... In the series, the mice cried, pricked, but continued to eat a cactus ... It's about 404 ...

It was not said about mice, but about hedgehogs

[Nychego]

Quote: RUSS

It was not said about mice, but about hedgehogs

Do not confuse two different jokes:
"The mice cried, injected, but they continued to eat the cactus ..." and "The animals are also mistaken," said the hedgehog, getting off the cactus.

[Svarog51]

The cactus leaves them the opportunity to live on, a stupid mouse mixed up. Bad luck.

[Ros 56]

Even dogs have smart thoughts.

[kakvastam]

We already hear the fifth year: “they will climb, and we will see.”
As a result, no one climbs anywhere, they just quietly destroy the defenders of Donbass and terrorize civilians with impunity.
After all, they are not (a variety of alternatively gifted prohibited in VO), time works for them and for the leadership of a young country, but not for Russia.

[APASUS]

Most likely there will not be a big war, of course I will try to take the APU in a jerk, but if something goes wrong, they will quickly stop. But in fact, this jerk is needed 5-10 km and that's it!
1 Russia immediately becomes guilty of everything, no one will understand.
2 Once Russia is to blame for Ukraine, it is automatically to blame for Syria, which gives the right to bombardment of the SA.
3 New sanctions in the flesh before stopping SP 2
4 Potroshenko again president

[igorbrsv]

With sp-2, burghers even got bogged down in the usa. Russia is already to blame for everything. I hope that in the event of full-scale hostilities of the Russian Federation, troops will be sent to Donbass. In 2014 there was still ambiguity, the UN position, public opinion was tried to be pulled over, the introduction of peacekeepers was demanded on the demarcation line, the Minsk agreements

[Vard]

The Poles are waiting for the aggravation ... Then they will most likely try to overcome their ... Western Ukraine ...

[Black sniper]

They have the right, Gdansk and Lviv primordially Polish lands.

[LMN]

In Kiev, no one will make such a decision, because everyone understands perfectly well what this may ultimately lead to.In this case, we would be accused of disrupting the Minsk agreements, and this would lead to the risk of lifting the anti-Russian sanctions.

Here is pi..balobol V.Putin clearly and clearly outlined what this could lead to: "... up to the loss of statehood!"

[bouncyhunter]

Maksim

Quote: LMN

Vladimir Putin clearly and clearly delineated what this could lead to

So in / in Ukraine to listen to Putin-zapadlo.

[NN52]

So they listen to themselves there .... And for some reason they climb to the check on a grenade ....

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NN52

And for some reason they climb to the check on the grenade ..

Cruel and calculating suicides.

[LMN]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Maksim

Quote: LMN

Vladimir Putin clearly and clearly delineated what this could lead to

So in / in Ukraine to listen to Putin-zapadlo.

West? And your tie is not zapadlo?

[private person]

Putin says a lot and promises. And then he skillfully cuts it back.

[Avior]

He was worried about the World Cup

[Jeremiah]

Well, why are the psheks happy, They hope that it will be possible to divide them, as they were at 39 ... If the APU starts, the entire "civilized" world will be at least in words for Urina. In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are many sick in the head who want to play war, not knowing what it is, as well as here in VO and in Russia in general. But there are those who know and want, but they are a minority and they pose a serious threat. The so-called pros do not care who to blame. They can organize and lead the army workers, which are the overwhelming majority. Without the Russian Federation, the DPR and LPR will be crushed. In the best case, the Russian Federation will let the fleeing military across the border and drive them into camps so that their fellow countrywomen do not creep apart. Maybe someone will take their army ... The Russian Federation will join, and this will be seen from the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the course of the operation, but it will seriously intervene. regular army will be rebuffed and resisted. No need to roll your lips on what was called Novorossia. No one is waiting for you here ... Because Russia, unfortunately, is not a Union and a little better than Ukraine, just resources are richer, but the same trough for your fat cats Usmanovs, Deripasoks, Abramovichs, Prokhorovs ... well, you know them better. they do not offer anything good to ordinary people. Will you come to change the owners, nothing personal, just business? Then why are you better than amers? Plus, the "Western world" can grin .. Again, Russia is not a Union capable of gathering all the people into a fist, can you stand it and why, so that someone has more money. Plus, how you need compatriots is evident from the legislation ... Nothing. It is easier for a Pshek to naturalize a Ukrainian than it is for a Russian and a Belorussian or the same Ukrainian for you. Guys, work tirelessly, build industry, agriculture, at least start making machines of your own, restore science, otherwise the Soviet developments will soon end, you can see it from space, make the Caucasian apricots at least earn money for themselves ... Create a country for yourself and be easier, like Lenin, and then looking at your bureaucrats Saltykovskie bar recalls the proud and arrogant and arrogant, but extremely stupid ... Be simpler and people will reach out to you, otherwise fewer people associate Moscow with that Moscow when it was the capital of many nations ...

[Goodmen]

Mdya .... And it's hard to argue ....

Guys, work tirelessly, build industry, agricultural, at least start your own machine tools, restore science, otherwise Soviet achievements will end soon, it will be seen from space, make Caucasian Uryuk at least make money on yourself .. Create a country for yourself

Yes, and in principle I agree with the rest.

[DVTamga]

You have the sublimation of Russian and ukrosmi turned into some kind of wild garbage. And apparently there you have a lot of such people in Ukraine ..... Well, all the worse for you).

[Nimitz]

A hotel neighbor in the Crimea, from Krivoy Rog (i.e., from Ukraine), argued that the so-called ATO or the new OOS was actually an extremely profitable business project for officials. For the tax on this event is deducted from the employees, in addition to pay off participation in it, it also costs money. The price list of almost the official website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is hanging. And most importantly, contrary to our common opinion, everyone in Ukraine understands how much state money is being stolen, and they are also aware of the mortar hammer. But most of all he was jarred by the fact that Mr. Yatsenyuk sold several kilometers of netting netting for the astronomical sums to protect the same from the country of the aggressor.
So I’m thinking, will they themselves close this feeding trough by winning, or, most likely losing a serious war. Yes, hardly.

[Cat]

For the tax on this event is deducted from the employees, in addition to pay off participation in it, it also costs money.

This is not even the largest income item. The main thing is the checkpoints on the demarcation line, a kind of customs, where income goes both for transportation there and back. I guarantee you - the most profitable business is to put a checkpoint somewhere on the road, for example, to a beer stall from a housing estate - and charge a passage fee
Ostap Ibrahimovic will confirm.

[Matroskin]

There was one in 1915. Zemgor organization engaged in the distribution of state defense orders. Memoirs of Prince S.E. Trubetskoy:
The uncontrolled throwing of money and purchases, regardless of any prices, created great temptations for other weak souls. On the other hand, contractors, sensing the possibility of huge profits, tempted some employees of the purchasing apparatus with bribes.
From a letter from one of the workers of the Petrograd Putilovsky plant, dated 1916.
“Everyone is tired of the war, but there are people who, thanks to such misfortune, receive huge salaries and for no reason - medals, crosses, and so on. awards, and from the battles are several tens of miles. Those have one dream, as if the war would continue. But a lot of people have been taken, and now, I think, some women walk around the streets, and the elderly and the crippled, but there are no healthy men. ”
Nothing changes.

[Avior]

he misled you.
there is a small army tax, it’s true, but nobody needs to pay off, there are volunteers.
Moreover, volunteers want it on the front line - there they pay a lot more

[Nimitz]

Quote: Avior

he misled you.
there is a small army tax, it’s true, but nobody needs to pay off, there are volunteers.
Moreover, volunteers want it on the front line - there they pay a lot more

But what reason should he lie when our children swim together in the sea. Again, I'm not from the army intelligence to promote me misinformation. And about the volunteers, he once mentioned that all their fervor for such people passes when the salvo systems in neighboring units work out. I think this is not a war of heroes of commanders, this is a war of the quality of artillery work.

[Tank hard]

It would be nice to hook Poland ...

[Cat]

Ukraine builds up striking forces

Which ones? Tank units, artillery regiments, front-line aviation? Or 1.5 Nazis from dolbobat?

[Vadim237]

All of the above increases.

[Cat]

All of the above increases.

Yes Yes. Already the fifth year. They can’t increase in any way - everything dissolves somewhere, only offshore accounts grow.

[Vadim237]

If you count from the age of 15, and then they took Donetsk airport and Debaltseve, then it turns out they are building up for three years.

[Huumi]

No one will start until they say Fass!

[23424636]

the Poles always received pride from the Russians, and they always spoiled it because their hero Kostyushka killed Russian soldiers without weapons in Vilna after communion in the church, for which the Psheks were destroyed. And their pride is Marshal. Ponyatovsky drowned in Elster, fleeing the Russians in 1813 .. As for the situation on the fronts, there is no noise. Couch snipers, of course, have all appreciated that there are no people, then no money. This is the Donbass and here is the bridgehead of Russia. Tomorrow, laying flowers and wreaths at the graves of soldiers of the Great Patriotic War liberators. This is the second holiday here in importance. Where else is this day celebrated on a grand scale as in the homeland of miners and metallurgists. Valtsman is not so stupid and knows that when he tries to escalate, Mariupol will be cut off for 25 km from Kominternovo to the Ilyich plant in a straight line. And Marik (Mariupol) is 30% of the Ukrainian economy. And his loss will lead to chaos and Akhmetov (the owner of 2 local iron and steel plants) will not allow this.

[Avior]

and the link is a mistake.
It seems that in the article, the version presented by the Poles, voiced in the DPR, is presented as Polish.
Well, in the DPR every week the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is vanged.
In reality, any such offensive is obvious stupidity. What for?

[Bshkaus]

If you look impartially at everything from the outside, now it’s almost an ideal option for an APU offensive:
After the recent "toad jumps", the defense of Gorlovka is in an extremely vulnerable position, + constant losses (which do not exist) affect the morale of the defenders. In Dokuchaevsk, the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually "hang" over the city, how many times it has almost reached street battles, and the only road towards Styla, along which the supply is going, is completely shot through.
Again, along the entire front line, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the initiative that in the daytime no one sticks out because The Armed Forces of Ukraine are totally bombarded with TPTURs, which in the Armed Forces are already, if not in abundance, then at least "in abundance." All movements of the LDNR equipment take place only at night, and then there is a "confusion" like a few weeks with the URAL ambulance with flashing lights, which, as it turned out in the end, ran into its own mine.
And here also Zakharchenko was sent to the otherworld ...
Only the offensive still doesn’t wake up, everyone understands that the Russian Federation will not be shy in expressions and will simply break it into Zhytomyr itself, so that you can sleep peacefully, make noise and calm down.
Though? Ukraine, too, is not a yard shit roofs ...

[filatik]

I do not exclude that there will be a real war. Perhaps even pre-planned amid sharp tensions with pension reform. It is necessary to keep the rating in the incentive. And he slipped off with a gallant president with a bang! Holds us for fools. God forbid this happens of course, but it’s time for the GDP to retire!

[legend of the nation]

hmm .... and the rat as photographed Ukrainians in a different way ??