Like two fingers! .. In the USA, they told how F-35 bombed 50 Iranian bases

Another propaganda article, praising American weapons and diminishing Russian weapons, appeared in American Thinker. American "expert" Fred Singer claims that after a successful Israeli air strike on Syria, Russia is likely to no longer participate in the "mess" in Syria, due to the lack of air defense systems capable of detecting "elusive" F-35.

The author claims that the F-35 transferred to Israel were “baptized in combat”, while attacking about fifty Iranian military bases covered with “Russian C-300 systems in the last modification with powerful radars” in Syria. After these successful air strikes, when C-300 was unable to detect the F-35, Russia allegedly decided to improve the systems for "detecting elusive F-35".

According to the author, the Israeli newest fighters received from the United States can "easily" destroy "the plutonium reactor built by Russia in the Iranian Arak, if it receives permission to fly through Saudi Arabia. In addition, the Russian base in Latakia is in “easy reach”. Although the Russians have put a more advanced C-400 system to protect this base, it is also overvalued by specialists. When the coalition struck Syria in April of this year with cruise missiles, says Singer, the Russian C-400 didn’t react to them and hit a single missile.

Such speculative texts about the alleged superiority of the F-35 over Russian air defense systems periodically appear in the Western press. They are mainly aimed at the average person who is used to trusting his newspapers. On the other hand, articles of this kind, which underestimate the capabilities of the Russian air defense systems, according to some experts, are specifically ordered by the United States to put pressure on some countries on the purchase of C-400 systems.

Comments

[Andrey K]

... In the US, they told how the F-35 bombed 50 Iranian bases ...

Meli Emelya - your week !!!

... F-35s were "baptized in combat conditions", while attacking in Syria about fifty Iranian military bases covered by "Russian S-300 systems in the latest modification with powerful radars" ...

And here we are racking our brains - "Almaz-Antey" is loaded, but the exhaust is not visible.
It turns out that all the products went to Iranian bases in Syria!

... When winged coalitions hit Syria in April this year with cruise missiles, says Singer, the Russian S-400 didn’t react to them and did not hit a single missile ...

Expert D Singer plagiarizes Konashenkov's words - he said at a Defense Ministry briefing that Russian air defense systems were not used in Syria.

[maxim947]

A counter question arises: why are they so worried about the acquisition of the S-400 by Turkey and India?))

[Kent0001]

This is the loss of dough ... but the Americans can’t get it!

[Serge Gorely]

Nothing new

[Sxron]

Now "tovaischi" will appear and everything will be confirmed with arguments and analytics ..)))) It's time for Russia to flee from Syria ..

[Andrey K]

Quote: Sxron

... Now "tovaischi" will appear and everything will be confirmed by arguments and analytics ..)))) It's time for Russia to flee from Syria ...

Already!!!

... Fred Singer claims that after Israel’s successful airstrike on Syria, Russia is likely to no longer participate in the "mess" in Syria ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Andrey K

Already!!!

"Professor" with "Aron" should still catch up with the words: "Yeah, we said that the Fu-35 is a super-aircraft."

[shans2]

yeah, these bugs are very powerful, they defeated Russia on facebook, come mice, put things in order))). In fact, they are sitting in Idlib in bunkers and the VKS are currently being utilized.

[sabakina]

Quote: Sxron

Now "tovaischi" will appear and everything will be confirmed with arguments and analytics ..)))) It's time for Russia to flee from Syria ..

Well and where to run? Behind Damascus ... Did you understand what you wrote?

[Pereira]

Nobody will run. But here we have not seen the real power of the advertised systems. And this inspires certain concerns.

[Sxron]

Quote: Pereira

Nobody will run. But here we have not seen the real power of the advertised systems. And this inspires certain concerns.

These systems are waiting in the wings X! And they don’t scatter over trifles .. Russia is simply probed by reconnaissance in battle. If we sniff the small UAV and all kinds of lionfish, then you need to wait for the bigger targets .. (it's like a sniper pro ..) To shoot down, shoot down so that they remember Russian air defense for 100 years! Russia has no right to make a mistake in such a delicate and dangerous business ..

[den3080]

and you are demonstrating to them “a complete ignoramus and gavnodushiya”

[rocket757]

Nobody really proved anything, it’s in relation to our new systems, and Shaw and Iranzas and Syrians will have to make real efforts and money to create normal air defense for a long time and everyone understands this.
Only some simply do not have money, while others are busy with figs you will understand, this is their "soup", let them cook it yourself .... we are not particularly invited there as advisors to local chefs.

[Sergey39]

It is hoped that the US Army and Navy are led by more sane individuals

[Black_PR]

... Fred Singer ... Don't smell more glue, don't.

[LMN]

That is why apparently:

[The media reported that the Russian Air Force launched the largest air attack of the year in the armed opposition at Syrian Idlib. According to various sources, from three to ten fighters, which delivered more than 10 blows, flew into the sky over the province. However, no official confirmation of this information has yet been received from the RF Ministry of Defense.

Russian VKS launched the largest bombardment in the province of Idlib in the past year. The armed opposition is being hit, according to sources in the Syrian opposition, the Middle East newspaper Al-Masdar News and the Turkish news agency Anadolu.

According to this information, the districts of Jisir al-Sugur, Bisenkul, Gani, Inneb, Sirmaniya in the west of Idlib and the Zeyzun region in the north of Hama were bombed.

On the website of the Syrian opposition reported 20 attacks by three Russian fighters.

At the same time, Al-Masdar News sources speak of "at least ten Russian Sukhoi fighters, which launched dozens of air strikes on the southern and western parts of Idlib." Currently, data on the dead and wounded have been reported.

At the same time, the Russian Ministry of Defense has not yet commented on this information.

[Evil543]

So ours did not hide ... the exercises of the VKS and Navy with us

[LMN]

Quote: Evil543

So ours did not hide ... the exercises of the VKS and Navy with us

However, most are discussing an article from the United States, rather than the start of an attack in Idlib. They demanded so much time, were indignant .. and as it began, silence ... popcorn is apparently hawed

[Evil543]

Waiting for training missile firing at ground targets, and then training air defense

[LMN]

Quote: Evil543

Waiting for training missile firing at ground targets, and then training air defense

Have you waited, or do you need official communication from the RF Armed Forces?))

[Evil543]

Missiles fired off?

[LMN]

Quote: Evil543

Missiles fired off?

And how did the su-27 shoot?

[Evil543]

Yes, I'm generally talking about "Caliber", the Navy should shoot.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Evil543

Yes, I'm generally talking about "Caliber", the Navy should shoot.

Save for larger game. You never know what ...

[LMN]

Quote: Polite Moose

Quote: Evil543

Yes, I'm generally talking about "Caliber", the Navy should shoot.

Save for larger game. You never know what ...

The Navy should shoot

Here, here ... and I'm talking about it.
Only this should push pluses. And the fact that the Russian Federation does everything that the Caliber does not have to shoot, is not taken into account by anyone

[Russia]

Maxim, good evening Here we are, as we are. They are used to testing our patience. But still, they keep something in their minds, they are afraid of something.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Evil543

Yes, I'm generally talking about "Caliber", the Navy should shoot.

Each barmaley on "Caliber" ?! Wouldn't it be a bit fat? So far, apparently, and "cast iron" enough. And let the "Calibers" remain in the stash, you never know how the events unfold if the Yankees again hit Syria with "axes".

[Krasnodar]

Specialists Cocaine invigorates. And this is LSD. Halluciogen. Chi glue moment.

[2329 Carpenter]

Here, Kamikaze, no offense, along the way you went over yourself ...

[Sergey Medvedev]

It is necessary to conduct an advertising campaign for our air defense. Shoot down an Israeli F-35 and express regret. In the style of "he's invisible. We didn't notice! We were shooting at Barmaley drones!"

[Theodore]

And not even seen! Generally !

[Mih1974]

I think this is unrealizable the Israeli "Ingwin" has already caught a "bird" in the sky to the level of "scrapping" Of course, I understand that Israel is a God-chosen country so that Argentavis would fly
it’s a bust, those like 5 million years have died out.

[skomfit]

Now, the dzhidai will run and in the minus you will leave.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Sergei Medvedev

We did not notice! We shot at Barmalei drones!

We will no longer. Send more.

[private person]

But in fact, is it time to open an account F-35: C 300 (400). In whose favor will the bill be?

[Avior]

S-300 at least some account to start you need to open.

[Reserve buildbat]

The elusive fu-35s struck 50 bases ... Thank you, you enlightened, otherwise these bases probably weren't even aware that they had been "hit" ...
And C-400 has not been applied ... Beat a rocket at the chicken is not reasonable. Enough and stone.

[HAM]

Let them boast, disappointment will be stronger ...
It would seem that Korea and Vietnam should have taught something, bets were also placed on distance war, but it turned out how it happened ...

[APASUS]

Yes, we read this crap about the F-35, how it flew over all of Iran and was not noticed, and most importantly, it didn’t even refuel after flying around 2000 km, it’s enough fuel, how

[ANCIENT]

He was therefore not seen because he did not fly, but was driving on a freeway all over Iran! And so that no one understood anything, they went with the headlights turned off, and did not give sound signals! !!

[ANCIENT]

Or thumps, unsightly, or a science fiction loser, gives out his narcotic delirium as unapplied truth!

[Phil77]

Now it’s probably clear from whom Petrus takes an example, or * kspert * from Petrus ?!

[501 Legion]

to whom they get on this cram dreamers fucking

[Krasnodar]

In the iso-Israeli press, information slipped that F-35s were involved in attacks on Syrian territory. But 50 bases is ... too

[Sxron]

Quote: Krasnodar

But 50 bases is ... too

The more fantastic the lie, the more they believe it .. Moreover, all the world media control the Jews!
Who benefits from? Yes, everything has been clear for a long time, you need to use Fu-35 satellites .. Israel, after all, took part in the development, and they are rarely in the financial span "there are Buy and sell this their chip, especially there is serious money

[gurta]

Quote: Sxron

The weird the lie, the more they believe it

Such, Mikhan, selyavuha. Taki bombed. Taki a good plane. So your ax radars have not seen. Oh Vaska, longing.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Sxron

Quote: Krasnodar

But 50 bases is ... too

The more fantastic the lie, the more they believe it .. Moreover, all the world media control the Jews!
Who benefits from? Yes, everything has been clear for a long time, you need to use Fu-35 satellites .. Israel, after all, took part in the development, and they are rarely in the financial span "there are Buy and sell this their chip, especially there is serious money

Your words to Gd in your ears! Al-Jaziru, CNN and REN-TV are we too? Controlling ??))))

[Sxron]

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: Sxron

Quote: Krasnodar

But 50 bases is ... too

The more fantastic the lie, the more they believe it .. Moreover, all the world media control the Jews!
Who benefits from? Yes, everything has been clear for a long time, you need to use Fu-35 satellites .. Israel, after all, took part in the development, and they are rarely in the financial span "there are Buy and sell this their chip, especially there is serious money

Your words to Gd in your ears! Al-Jaziru, CNN and REN-TV are we too? Controlling ??))))

Well, I don’t know, but you (massad) precisely control .. Constant sweeps are coming ..)))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Sxron

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: Sxron

Quote: Krasnodar

But 50 bases is ... too

The more fantastic the lie, the more they believe it .. Moreover, all the world media control the Jews!
Who benefits from? Yes, everything has been clear for a long time, you need to use Fu-35 satellites .. Israel, after all, took part in the development, and they are rarely in the financial span "there are Buy and sell this their chip, especially there is serious money

Your words to Gd in your ears! Al-Jaziru, CNN and REN-TV are we too? Controlling ??))))

Well, I don’t know, but you (massad) precisely control .. Constant sweeps are coming ..)))

This is not Mossad, this is a local manifestation of tolerance for small peoples of the Russian Federation

[gurta]

Quote: Krasnodar

In the iso-Israeli press, information slipped that F-35s were involved in attacks on Syrian territory. But 50 bases is ... too

Information in the Israeli press was that more than 200 attacks on Iranian targets in Syria were made this year. Most of it is from the air.

[Krasnodar]

And a photo of the F-35 above Beirut Airport was published ...

[axbap]

F-35 did not participate in base attacks
From the open press
until mid-July, the Israeli Air Force had 9 aircraft, now there are 12.
Reasons for non-participation from unofficial sources (also in the open press)
-insufficient flight training of pilots on this plane
-convert to Israeli systems of some systems (electronics + weapons)
In addition, the issue of procurement of F-15 is being considered now instead of continuing procurement of F-35.
Draw your own conclusions

[LMN]

Quote: axbap

F-35 did not participate in base attacks
From the open press
until mid-July, the Israeli Air Force had 9 aircraft, now there are 12.
Reasons for non-participation from unofficial sources (also in the open press)
-insufficient flight training of pilots on this plane
-convert to Israeli systems of some systems (electronics + weapons)
In addition, the issue of procurement of F-15 is being considered now instead of continuing procurement of F-35.
Draw your own conclusions

Now the Syrian Air Force and the Russian Aerospace Forces strike in the province of Idlib.
Not a single f-35 or f-22 is mentioned.
Draw conclusions

[voyaka uh]

F-16s fly and attack at minimum altitude. Therefore, they can be seen and heard, and they are immediately reported.
F-35 does not need to be pressed to the ground. They are bombing from above. Where the bombs come from is unclear to ground observers. Therefore, there is no information.

[LMN]

Quote: voyaka uh

F-16s fly and attack at minimum altitude. Therefore, they can be seen and heard, and they are immediately reported.
F-35 does not need to be pressed to the ground. They are bombing from above. Where the bombs come from is unclear to ground observers. Therefore, there is no information.

That is, now in Idlib the F-35 is actively (it is clear that imperceptibly) opposing the Syrian Air Force and the Russian Air Force?

[Avior]

Should they oppose? Why is it for Israel?

[Grits]

They are bombing from above. Where the bombs come from is unclear to ground observers.
Cool! And you, by chance, not from Alpha Centauri?

[NN52]

axbap

Yes, actually, here your countrymen told us something completely different about the combat use of F 35 ..
Almost in every raid on Syria, and no one saw them and could not find .. Straight fantasy however ...
We won’t call Nicky, everyone here already knows them ...

[IL-18]

we won’t call, everyone here knows them anyway ...

Oh! Who is it? And where are they?

[voyaka uh]

Why is science fiction? Centimeter-range air defense radars really do not see them already from 30-40 km.

[Russia]

That's it, that is centimeter, but there are frequencies and lower and the corresponding technique, at least with us. Do not relax.

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! Behave stupidly and dishonestly, write nonsense ... did not answer my question at the bottom of the forum! The S-300B4 and S-400 radars easily see the F-35 at a distance of at least ~ 304 km in free space! And everything else is nonsense ... No need to wishful thinking!

[Henderson]

where does this information come from?

[Dron_sk]

Quote: axbap

In addition, the issue of procurement of F-15 is being considered now instead of continuing procurement of F-35.

I have always considered Israel to be the state that most effectively purchases and modernizes weapons, because, firstly, it is a question of survival in the presence of many enemies around and conditions of permanent warfare, and secondly, weapons are not there for "to be" and not in order to participate in parades, and is applied and tested in real combat conditions. And thirdly, simply because someone, and the Jews definitely do not need to be taught how to spend money effectively)), and they certainly would not buy useless trinkets for big money.
That is why, after the appearance of the F-35 in Israel, I was waiting for the results of the "general tests" of this product by this particular country, because the states can praise the product that they need to sell as much as they want, they can even conduct combat missions and show brilliant results in operations, the result of which predetermined in advance, and the enemy does not have adequate means of "response" or the ability to use them. Although Israel itself can praise the F-35 in order to please the star-striped ally and so that the opponents are afraid of the F-35 like fire and dare not believe that this god-like fighter can be detected and shot down. Like many Israelis here at the VO, such as warrior_uh, they have praised this F-35 more than once or twice. And it's okay that having paid $ 150 million for the fighter, it also has to be modernized with our own efforts and at our own expense - this also says a lot, but you can understand - Israel is modernizing a lot of things to fit its needs and conditions after the purchase. But based on the fact whether Israel will continue to buy the F-35 or ask for the F-15 / F-22 instead, it will already be possible to draw an unambiguous conclusion :)
It just feels like the Su-53, that the F-35 was given the task of designing teenagers who played enough air shooters, and then they say, "design-like me a fighter that cannot be detected, but which itself sees any enemy for tens of kilometers, while carrying a bunch of the most advanced missiles as weapons. "
In fact, the F-35 and the Su-53 turned out to be too complicated and sophisticated, too stuffed with electronics, and too dependent on this electronics. Therefore, they are far from being as effective, and most importantly, far from being as reliable as marketers present to us. Their electronics is their advantage, but at the same time their weak point. Mankind does not yet have such technologies to build a fighter that fully and precisely meets such requirements. And even if they were, then these same technologies would help build an air defense capable of detecting and destroying such a fighter. Not without reason since Newton's day it has been the custom: any action causes a reaction.
In real combat operations, collecting and transmitting a bunch of information is of course important, but it is equally important to be useful in offline mode, after a disconnection and to be reliable.

[voyaka uh]

"In real combat, it is of course important to collect and transmit a bunch of information" ////
-----
This is the most important thing in your post!
Information technology is paramount.
The first received information about the enemy - the first shot.
F-35 is capable of reconnaissance: scan objects on the ground with a radar and immediately shoot at them. In one run. Completely autonomous, by the way, This is carried out for the first time in military aviation. Prior to this, jet attack aircraft could attack previously explored objects. Or discovered by ourselves in the first run. An example of the development of information technology in real time.

[EvilLion]

A technology is taken, for example, the well-known technology for tuning the frequency of a radar according to a pseudo-random algorithm, it is beautifully called, for example, LPI - a low probability of interception, i.e. it is sold to Israel. Israel throws several bombs at its neighbors without crawling out of its airspace, on the Internet there is a joyful psychosis about super-duper technology.

PROFIT.

[Grits]

F-35 is capable of reconnaissance: scan objects on the ground with a radar and immediately shoot at them.
And during such a fun scan, he does not turn into a Christmas tree? What if in the process of scanning his scanner finds quality air defense ?. Another question is who will grab the first rocket. For some reason, I'm sure that it will be a penguin. Because air defense can reflect a missile strike (or is it also invisible?), And the plane is unlikely. As you say - in one go

[2329 Carpenter]

Warriors of the Ear has a secret temple where there is a cast figure in the form of F-35, found in the layers of the Mesozoic era, and a flying helmet with AI pulled out from under the skeleton of a tyrannosaurus of the Jurassic period.
Now he will come and draw such conclusions ..
Supporters of the religion of F-15 will not seem enough!

[spectr]

Most likely one of the many articles of this kind. In principle, it is logical. Prepare for the next blow and throw in a bunch of disinformation to reduce the temptation to open confrontation. Russia does the same when talking about its "unparalleled".
And some in the comments merge real info, though the hell knows how secret it is.

[Runoway]

Israel has a campaign that all planes are invisible, as Russian air defense did not touch a single plane

[flicker]

Pure neighing ...

[Russia]

Laughing right is not a sin, over what seems ridiculous. Greetings, Nikolay!

[ANCIENT]

Haim-you from Moscow were told that we have no interests here, did we come here for fun? ??? You are my friend science fiction, or an overly naive person. ..

[NN52]

Chaim

Yes, as you say, "torn" came to train, and on nesting dolls too ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Haim

You still have to restore Syria, give loans to Cuba, feed Venezuela.

Why not? If you need it, we will feed you and give money. So, it’s established. It’s for you - not to cringe in your "search for happiness" and then lick up mattresses for 3 billion a year.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Haim

You still have to restore Syria, give loans to Cuba, feed Venezuela.

Why not? If you need it, we will feed you and give money. So, it’s established. It’s for you - not to cringe in your "search for happiness" and then lick up mattresses for 3 billion a year.

Who licks whom there, it is not clear But who pays the election companies to whom in the USA and what it has for it - it’s clear to everyone

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnodar

But who pays the election companies to whom in the USA and what it has for it - it’s clear to everyone

Our CEC, in the person of Comrade Klyukin, has sent a warning to the GUGL and YouTube about the inadmissibility of interference in our elections. Let them not climb, otherwise we’ll ban.

[Krasnodar]

In the States, you can officially sponsor an election program. So democratic and so anti-corruption ..

[parathyron]

One torn booty and will not do if all sorts of wise men will be underfoot confused))

[Russia]

Man, spit three times, otherwise you will also call heaven’s punishment on your soft spot

[LMN]

Quote: Haim

Itself guessed about the absence (full). After all, one torn booty you can not cover several holes at the same time. You still have to restore Syria, give loans to Cuba, feed Venezuela.

After all, one torn booty you can not cover several holes at the same time.

Are you insolent?

[Russia]

Maksim, it can be seen young and inexperienced released into circulation, so he frolics on the lawn.

[LMN]

Quote: Rusland

Maksim, it can be seen young and inexperienced released into circulation, so he frolics on the lawn.

Apparently GDP is not enough "demon" ..

[Cottodraton]

... And to clean up the Oligarchs of your origin. And then we are pumping money in the Russian Federation, we will "sting" at it, but we love Israel.
I would deal with such a contingent.

[maiman61]

Israel climbs out of the skin, so that we would not put Syria S-300! Know that Assad will not tweet with them! Israelis will quickly teach you how to walk! Will not chew snot. America is tearing up the ass, so that Turkey and India do not put the S-400! They write boiling water for fear that flying buckets are knocking them down!

[high]

Delirium, the Israeli defense minister warned that he was not opposed to delivering the S-300 to Syria, but if the S-300 entered the battle, it would be destroyed.
Neither Israel nor Russia is interested in this ....
By the way, Israel's strikes were carried out on Iranian targets, as well as on transport convoys delivering weapons to Hezbollah.
After a large-scale IDF operation in May in response to rocket attacks on the Golan Heights, Iranians stopped building military bases in Syria.
However, according to intelligence, Iran has not abandoned plans to gain a foothold in Syria.
In particular, the commander of the Al-Quds special unit, Major General Qasem Suleimani, continues to seek to create a "ground corridor" from Iran through Iraq and Syria to Lebanon.

[VVK_VDB]

In my opinion, the armament is supplied for this purpose, so that it would be destroyed. I mean, mutually.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: alta

Delirium, the Israeli defense minister warned that he was not opposed to delivering the S-300 to Syria, but if the S-300 entered the battle, it would be destroyed.
Neither Israel nor Russia is interested in this ....
By the way, Israel's strikes were carried out on Iranian targets, as well as on transport convoys delivering weapons to Hezbollah.
After a large-scale IDF operation in May in response to rocket attacks on the Golan Heights, Iranians stopped building military bases in Syria.
However, according to intelligence, Iran has not abandoned plans to gain a foothold in Syria.
In particular, the commander of the Al-Quds special unit, Major General Qasem Suleimani, continues to seek to create a "ground corridor" from Iran through Iraq and Syria to Lebanon.

Assad has hemp fields in Lebanese Baal Bek. Security - Hezbollah. And the corridor is already an extra side job for the IRGC and the young Iranian republic

[Ros 56]

Oh, these storytellers, I just don’t understand why the American planes are called - the latest Israeli fighters, what is Israeli in them, except for the identification marks. It is necessary to conduct a fight, the F-35 against the S-300, so to speak, a duel. Well, who wants from Israel?

[borberd]

MSA - Israeli, weapons - Israeli, wings - Israeli, radars - Israeli, well, every little thing.

[Ros 56]

Then such a fact as recognition of the Yak-141 as the progenitor of the F-35, gives us the right to consider it Russian.

[mvd ru]

MOSCOW, Sep 4 - RIA News. Syrian air defense repelled an attack by the Israeli air force, shooting down five missiles, the SANA agency reported.


"The Syrian air defense shot down several missiles fired by Israeli planes at the Wadi al-Uyun area in the vicinity of Hama," the agency said, citing a reporter.

Earlier, the agency reported several explosions thundered in the area.

A military source told the television station the details of the attack. According to him, military targets in Tartus and Hama were hit.

[voyaka uh]

Israel did not attack any bases in Iran. A couple of F-35s carried out a reconnaissance flight over Iranian territory a few months ago. Of course, they were interested in military bases.

[mvd ru]

How would you comment on today's blow? A strike in the Tartus area ... this is already something too much ..... Here, only two options remain, or there really are "special agreements" between the Defense Ministry and the IDF or S-300V ....

[voyaka uh]

Ah, I did not understand the article. This refers to Iranian and Hezbollah bases in Syria. They have indeed been bombed by many over the past 2-3 years.
There is undoubtedly an agreement between the Ministry of Defense of Russia and the IDF. And political agreements, which are no less important than the military. One of them: Russia does not interfere in the showdown between Israel and Iran in Syria. But Israel does not try to overthrow Assad and does not interfere with the ground operations of the SA. All arrangements are respected.
The S-300 in Tartus can do little against low-flying aircraft. And it’s also difficult for her to take on the support of the high-flying F-35s. If they didn’t get too close: 30-40 km.

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! Do not write nonsense about the range of the S-300 and S-400 on an F-35 airplane ... Weakly calculate the range with a real image intensifier ???

[Henderson]

and what is she?

[NN52]

voyaka uh

You yourself contradict your comments, past comments ... You already deal with your countrymen there, about F 35, participated, did not participate ...

[voyaka uh]

I did not understand the article. I thought that we were talking about the territory of Iran.
And in Syria, the F-35s, of course, worked. Since the beginning of this year. Repeatedly.

[tTshka]

Yyykspert with a capital "g"

[keeper03]

Well, then it's time to check out the all-consuming American wunderwafel! Just dodge the damned invaders - you will be darting all the way to America, but it will be too late !!!

[NF68]

Does Iran have so many bases?

[mvd ru]

Quote: voyaka uh

And it’s difficult for her to accompany the high-flying F-35

You seem to be a serious person, but about those flying high, in my opinion "the stick is bent", EPR detection range is one thing, but the height ..... TTX C300V - You will not consider it a work, you can see for yourself

[voyaka uh]

TTX give on purpose with a specific EPR. Standard: 1 m2. Example: EPR F-16 with pendants - approximately 10 m2. F-15 - 20 m2. S-300 will bring them down? Of course.
But the EPR of the F-35 is many, many times lower than the lower threshold of the S-300. Therefore, they are noticed "point blank", as they say.

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! What kind of lower threshold are you talking about? Real image intensifier tube
F-35 is approximately 0,3 sq. meter ... Count and do not write incorrect data.

[Henderson]

0.3 sq. Meters is 33 times lower than the F-16. From the basic equation of radar, we obtain a decrease in the detection radis of 2.33 times compared to the F-16. It is in ideal spherical conditions. With interference, everything is much sadder.

[NN52]

voyaka uh

Where did you get such EPR F 16 and F 15? Sorry, of course, but in my opinion it’s very hot there today ...
And from these numbers all your dancing went ...
Correct pzhl your numbers on EPR ...

[voyaka uh]

My numbers - with pylons: weapons, rab, sights on the ground. The commonly published numbers are "naked" aircraft. Only the glider. They are smaller.

[NN52]

voyaka uh

But not 10 times as much .... according to F 16 ... Let him have an EPR of 1,2 without suspensions ... But a weapon, and even a PTB, well, obviously they will not add an EPR of up to 10 ...
And then there already some began to reduce by 33 times, comparing with f 35 ...
Therefore, I asked you to adjust the numbers ....

[voyaka uh]

If you look closely, fighters are located in the region of 15-20 m2
Take a look at the current estimation for the F-35. This is for practical measurements in the air.

[NN52]

Well, you can also take a closer look ...

[SETTGF]

voyaka uh! The actual data on the image intensifier do not correspond to the reprints you have cited from American sources ... Where are they given by firms interested in this!

[EvilLion]

The EPR does not depend directly on the dimensions, the presence of corner reflectors is much more important for it, such as pylons just become easy.

[voyaka uh]

I tried to explain this to NN52.

[Demon_is_ada]

Oh wei ... did you forget that in Yugoslavia the same thing was ABSOLUTELY invisible F117 with an EPR of 0,0025 and the backlight worked on it already for 50 km on the old junk

[Avior]

write for 500, what to regret

[Demon_is_ada]

And you see in Google then banned There is an interview with a cameraman who shot enta wunderwafle, he probably knew better than you from France? Or I'm wrong? And 2 cars were shot down, one was in a museum in Yugoslavia, but the second disappeared like the Hammers in Georgia in an unknown direction
Although the tactics are clear, you can’t argue - it’s obsolete ... on which the geyropa stood and stands And by the way, how can a Frenchman answer a Frenchman, why are the Frenchmen all curly and dark, sho, does your climate have such a chtoli? I'm just curious

[EvilLion]

What time is it? To reduce the detection range by 10 times, you need to reduce the EPR by 10000 times.

[Krasnodar]

This means that the S-300 radar does not see the inconspicuous F-35 at a distance of more than 40 km

[Phoenix_L'vov]

Hundred. Baz was a hundred.
By the way, they were destroyed in one flight.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Phoenix_Lvov

Hundred. Baz was a hundred.
By the way, they were destroyed in one flight.

Hydraulic aircraft APU. Zahist that peremoga!

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: Phoenix_Lvov

Hundred. Baz was a hundred.

And a suede jacket. Three jokes.

[mvd ru]

Quote: Krasnodar

This means that the S-300 radar does not see the inconspicuous F-35 at a distance of more than 40 km

Well, if the fellow countryman undertook to defend, then agree, at a distance or altitude ..... the height of the S-300 defeat is 27 km, the F-35 can fly higher, nothing will happen to the pilot ???

[Krasnodar]

I'm not talking about height, I'm talking about moving away from the radar

[voyaka uh]

I see that I have vaguely expressed myself.
Distance, I meant the shortest between an air defense radar and an airplane. According to the hypotenuse 30-40 km.
With a flight altitude of 6-8 km

[Victor_B]

A large batch of hats brought to America from China?

[borberd]

They drove, but not delivered; in Canada they slowed down. They said that for Trudeau, so that it was better than to throw .

[LMN]

Russia,
Hi!
Well, am I wrong? Did not 10k users of this resource want to attack the "Taliban in Idgil"?!?
The whole resource was "saturated" with this desire !! So it began ...and silence.....
Maybe they realized what war is?

[Russia]

Right, Maxim! And the comment below is also right

[LMN]

Russia,
Hi!
Well, am I wrong? Did not 10k users of this resource want to attack the "Taliban in Idgil"?!?
The whole resource was "saturated" with this desire !! So it began ...and silence.....
Maybe they realized what war is?

[2329 Carpenter]

Quote: Carpenter 2329

Warriors of the Ear has a secret temple where there is a cast figure in the form of F-35, found in the layers of the Mesozoic era, and a flying helmet with AI pulled out from under the skeleton of a tyrannosaurus of the Jurassic period.
Now he will come and draw such conclusions ..
Supporters of the religion of F-15 will not seem enough!

AND! Already here...

[voyaka uh]

He prayed for a Mesozoic figure, wearing a fossil helmet: "Oh! - holy penguin F-35, forgive the sinner Alexei ..."

[NN52]

Alexey

Test comment !!!!

[Dron_sk]

just Alex (voyaka_uh), apparently, moonlighting in the marketing department of Lockheed Martin Corporation and promoting the F-35 Although here on the site except the Jews themselves, who already have the F-35, only Russians, Belarusians and Kazakhs are sitting. Neither Kazakhstan, nor Belarus, nor even Russia will sell f-35s, even if you really want to. So it’s not clear why it is so colorful to praise and praise this product among the Russian-speaking population :)
Probably, after all, the warrior works in the department of communication intimidation of Israel, so he is working so that any enemy is afraid that Israel might fly to him on his invisible f-35s at any most unexpected moment, he will quietly drink a glass of wine from your hand, and then bombed to hell.

[voyaka uh]

"So it is not clear why this product should be so colorfully praised and over-praised among the Russian-speaking population :)" /////
----
The fact that I am writing about the F-35 is also relevant for the Russian stealth Su-57.
And I wrote several times in posts about the Su-57 that the Su-57 project is the most important for Russia.
If Russia goes in cycles in the 4th generation, which so far seems to be remarkable, this will lead to grave consequences in the future.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Let them write to themselves.
I am sure that people who have and are responsible for acquiring functioning weapons on their shoulders do not have the habit of analyzing the suitability of using weapons systems based on and taking into account what is drawn-printed in custom articles.

[Sands Careers General]

F-35 bombed 50 Iranian bases

Yeah, and then flew to Alpha Centauri to carry democracy)))
SchA hexagons will cheek up about Fu-35)))

[LMN]

Quote: Rusland

Right, Maxim! And the comment below is also right

Idlib, I apologize

[HMR333]

the United States needs to provide him with a free and urgent course on drug addiction !!!))) there can be no other explanation here!

[nikoliski]

cry to the point that the Su-35 will specially set up a trap for the Jewish f35 and put on Khmeinim (or knocked down in case of failure)

[tezey]

The article, as it were, by expert Fred, is definitely intended for an American layman who does not know where this Syria is located. How does the layman know, and even more so why should he be interested in the details. I read between the adoption of a coke burger and rejoiced at the greatness and technical power of the United States. That's what we produce, surprisingly everyone, Putin with fear and envy. Know ours. But we are interested in and know that Iran did not deploy any S-300s in Syria. All of them are in Iran. And the S-300 PMU1 is not the last modification of the complex. We also know that attacks by Israeli aviation are usually carried out from Lebanese airspace without entering the air defense zone. 50 bombed Iranian bases are generally fantasy. Where they found so many bases. In short, the article is complete nonsense. There was no real confrontation in Syria F-35 and S-300 systems. In place of expert Fredy, I would write more interesting. For example, Israeli F-35s flew all 12 units in formation through the Russian base of Khmeimim, waved their wings to the Russian S-400 operators, who opened their mouths to the designers of the S-400, and then flew to Tehran and drove fear to the Iranians. So it will be more interesting. Yes, I completely forgot. On the way, they of course bombed another 100 bases.

[Disorder]

The author claims that the F-35s handed over to Israel were "baptized in combat conditions," while attacking about fifty Iranian military bases in Syria, covered by "Russian S-300 systems in the latest modification with powerful radars."

He drank nothing with Poroshenko.

[tolmachiev51]

This we have already "passed" - I remember well the F-22 "Stells". Taxpayers need to explain where the lard went. Although there is an unpleasant aftertaste, it is probably time for ours to show what our C300 and C400 are "worth".

[Dimon71]

Well, damn it, there’s no words. Chef is gone, the client leaves the cast for removal. Singer must remind how an old air defense system shot down stealth in Serbia

[another RUSICH]

I didn't think I would ever say this, but I am beginning to yearn for the Cold War times, when military experts were experts and not talkers, when journalists were journalists, not agents of the OBS service, but politicians, politicians, not bazaars brawlers with third grade education

[Disorder]

Well, as the Cold War ended, they decided to cut the professionals. And those who were recruited according to the ad arrange a circus-tent on horse-drawn.

[oracul]

A man in his right mind and memory is unlikely to accept the tale of the 50 bombed bases covered by our s-300s. Such a quantity of these systems in Iran is simply not available. This is the first. And, secondly, who will fully illuminate the capabilities of the s-400, and there was no direct threat to the base. It is believed that the use of old systems by Syrian air defense quite effectively predicts the capabilities of new systems.

[Felix]

could "easily" destroy "a Russian-built plutonium reactor" in Iranian Arak if they receive permission to fly through Saudi Arabia.

I don’t understand Chet ... He is invisible, what for does he need permission from some Saudis? He drove quietly, bombed the reactor, and just as quietly back ...