In Ukraine, waiting for "direct military aggression of Romania"

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In Ukraine, waiting for "direct military aggression of Romania"Ukrainian newspaper "Den" 20 May analyzes the novel of the Romanian writer Christian Negri, modeling the Ukrainian-Romanian military conflict around Bessarabia.

"Blood on the Dniester" - this is how the new work of Christian Negri is translated. It was written on the model of numerous recent scandalous novels about wars between neighboring powers ... And it would not have caused so much emotion in Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Russia and in the unrecognized Transnistrian republic, if all participants in the conflict did not realize: one of the scenarios was described resolution of the long-standing territorial conflict. Moreover, this scenario is not a figment of the shocking author’s imagination, but one of the possible options for a radical solution of the problem of post-Soviet borders in a single case ... Of course, the author of “Blood on the Dniester” could only aim to shock the reader and thereby increase the sales of his novel. But this kind of attitude is invariably expressed by a part of the political establishment of Romania, right up to the current President Traian Basescu. The latter even named the date of the annexation of Bessarabia - 2025 year (30 November 2010 of the year, answering questions from Romania Libera, Romanian President Traian Basescu stated the following: "Romania Libera: Does there exist such a time perspective, for example 25 years, in which Romania and the Republic of Moldova unite? - Traian Basescu: Why not? - RL: How do you see this region in 25 years? - TB: The borders of the EU will be along the Dniester, and democratic development in the region will serve as an incentive for other countries - such as Ukraine - to rush into the EU. In 25 years, the Balkans will be part of the EU and NAT O. - RL: With Romania and Bessarabia in the same country? - TB: If Romanians desire on both banks of the Prut to do so ”- REGNUM press comment) 15 years later than in the novel Negri, but also in the foreseeable historical future "- writes the publication.

"Not only Ukraine is a potential object of territorial desires. Moldova and Transnistria are no less vulnerable and attractive in this regard. The conflict on the Dniester frozen for 20 years (Russia stopped the armed aggression of Moldova against Transnistria in the summer of 1992) - must be resolved. And in Romania there are a lot of those who are not averse to seeing his decision by military means ... Ukraine may be involved in a military conflict not only because of encroachments on its territories, but also in the case of territorial conflicts closest neighbors. And the most pressing of the border conflicts is the Transdniestrian problem - the heir, like most of these conflicts, is the Jesuit Stalinist national policy. The artificial borders in which the former Soviet republics exist make them internally and externally vulnerable and in many ways cause problems with the national identity of the citizens of these states. Ukraine is one of the states suffering from a similar situation, but on its territory, thank God, there were no armed conflicts and ethnic ical skirmishes. Moldova and Transnistria are a different matter. This conflict cannot be resolved without radical measures involving the incorporation of Transnistria either into Ukraine, or into Moldova, or into a single Romanian-Moldovan state, the publication believes. - The reunification of Moldova ("Bessarabian Moldova") and Romania is not so unrealistic (Obviously, "reunification" means the re-occupation of Bessarabia by Romania, by analogy with the occupation in 1918 - 1940 and 1941-1944. The annexation of Bessarabia by Romania was not recognized by the USSR until vtoring Romania in December 1917 on the territory of Bessarabia belonging to Russia, the latter had no relation to Romania and the Romanians - comment REGNUM). Romania in recent years has significantly strengthened its military potential, so the ideas of "Great Romania" have not gone away. "

“Having built up its military power in recent years and having behind its backs the support of the United States and NATO, Romania can continue to be stingy with respect to Ukraine. It succeeds a lot - largely due to the actions or inaction of the Ukrainian side: as in the cases of Snake and Giurgiuleshtami. Another thing is whether Europeans and Americans will support direct military aggression by Romania. So far this development seems doubtful. The stakes are not so large as to encourage Romanian revanchism to a critical level, especially if it can lead to war not only with Ukraine, but also with Russia, decided to come out in defense of Transdniestria. Of course, Russia is also hardly ready for war with Romania (that is, with NATO) for Transnistria. And Ukraine is hardly ready. However, in such extreme situations there are so many circumstances to calculate which is impossible (from the global geopolitical situation to the personal qualities of the leaders of countries involved in the conflict), and therefore they give rise to fantasies of novelists, "the Day concludes.
The publication also cites the opinion of Romanian expert Oana Popescu, director of the Bucharest Conflict Prevention Center: “As for the book by Christian Negri, in his blog he defines it as a“ military-political thriller ”- a fantastic novel, which features the 2014 war scenario. I doubt that this will get any support in Romanian society. I don’t even have any idea why the author sees such an opportunity. To be honest, I don’t even imagine it in a tangible future. This book is not political and not scientific, this is an antistatic romance. Therefore, since this is a fiction, you can imagine anything - including a war between Switzerland and Luxembourg or between Australia and Canada! Negri’s book does not reflect any “conflict mood” in Romanian society. Nobody wants to be in conflict with any neighbor through the political and social range, on the contrary, we observe with concern what is happening in the Balkans, where some inter-ethnic violence reappears. We are not at all pleased with this instability in our region. That is why Romania supports the Euro-Atlantic integration of the entire region: so that it can become a space of solid and lasting peace and prosperity. As for Basescu’s statement that Moldova may return to Romania within the next 25 years, and the border of the European Union will pass along the Dniester, which was quoted by RIA-News- This is a very inaccurate quote from the statement of the President of Romania. Basescu noted that in 25 years, Romania and the Republic of Moldova will be together again as members of the EU, where borders do not matter. He said that as soon as the Republic of Moldova and the Balkan countries become members of the EU, it will also give a powerful incentive to other neighbors, such as Ukraine, to do the same. Romania has always strongly supported the aspirations of its neighbors to become members of the EU and NATO. And again, this is not about uniting with the Republic of Moldova, but about being together in the EU. "

However, the Ukrainian political analyst Vitaly Kulik notes in his Facebook: "The question is not in futurology, but in the fact that there is a demand for such a literature in Romania, it MENTIFIES public sentiment."
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  1. YARY
    +6
    23 May 2012 07: 10
    angry angry angry These P-s unfinished time to put in place! Russia must declare that the PMR is part of RUSSIA and put an end to this for now.
    If Moldova starts moving towards entering Romania, its territory will be divided - a good piece of it? :
    bully: angry am
    1. Ataturk
      +37
      23 May 2012 09: 09
      Ardent, with all due respect, never write about the fact that someone has chopped off the ground and so on. Do you have little land? Think about the welfare of your people, and I wish them peace. The war did nothing good. Russia needs to protect fraternal countries, not divide. If someone decided to hide with the west, they would hold the flag in their hands, when their fingers remain between the doors, they will still ask for help from Russia, and then you have to beat where you need to. And do not take the land.

      It’s just that I live by the rule that you sow and reap. If I chop off the ground from someone, sooner or later I will lose my land. Life is a boomerang. Let them understand, we have enough problems. Wanted separately? So let them live separately.

      But Romania, before attacking Ukraine, needs to have steel eggs, which they do not have. Although I am a Muslim, I am YOU, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and so on, more expensive than all those states in the west and in the south and in the east.

      We are a family. We must protect each other, unite, and not chop off the land once they go west. If they want it, they’re holding the flag. Then, so as not to run back.
      1. +5
        23 May 2012 09: 35
        First, Regards ...
        Secondly :
        We are a family. We must protect each other, unite, and not chop off the land once they go west. If they want it, they’re holding the flag. Then, so as not to run back.

        Someone will call it - unification, and someone - occupation and there will always be such. The point is that they run "back" ...,
        Well, about the land - there is still enough land ...
        all the same, they will ask for help from Russia, and then it’s necessary to beat where it is necessary. And do not take the land.

        They ask for help from Russia, but don’t touch the ground, somehow it’s not quite equivalent ...
        1. Ataturk
          +10
          23 May 2012 09: 52
          Quote: vitvit123
          They ask for help from Russia, but don’t touch the ground, somehow it’s not quite equivalent ...

          So you want to say that you are ready to help a brotherly country, at the expense of the land?
          So what is the price of such a friendship? This is not my friend's friendship.
          1. +4
            23 May 2012 10: 04
            brotherly country

            This term is very beautiful, but not reliable for all 100. Here in their country, all sorts of villains provocations (with the republics) are arranged, and for other countries ..., today they are with us, and tomorrow ... I still don’t understand if something happens (God forbid) happens with a brotherly country - our help is the lives of our children - should they perish for no reason (I apologize for the columbur)?

            Of course, I am not a supporter of bidding, but to me (as a citizen of my country), I am not pleased when my country is used, etc.
            1. Ataturk
              +2
              23 May 2012 12: 38
              Quote: vitvit123
              Of course, I am not a supporter of bidding, but to me (as a citizen of my country), I am not pleased when my country is used, etc.

              Of course, you’re right, dear, only using the term BROTHER country, I mean relations between nations, and not between rulers. Politics is like a brothel, customers come and go, but the unity of the people, no one will destroy.
              1. +7
                23 May 2012 16: 51
                using the term BROTHER country, I mean relations between nations, and not between rulers.

                The fact of the matter is that rulers govern the country, not the people. And if we are Brothers, then why do we live in different families ??? Join now!
                And then Belarus seceded ... Brothers ... And the "father" now has his own interests ...
                Nafig join him, then he will not be the president, and the presidency is the most expensive! So he will play to the last ... And not everyone thinks about the welfare of the people - the main thing is to power, we have enough of our own rulers (EBN, Gorbach), and we won’t even figure out our last or not ...
                1. +1
                  24 May 2012 00: 17
                  So that's the point! We are talking about fraternal PEOPLES, not rulers! For any ruler, the people are just an electorate in the elections! And who remembers the people between them? So, some beautiful words!
                  1. Marat
                    +2
                    24 May 2012 19: 36
                    I just wanted to note that all the comments are certainly correct and the words are beautiful, but life is not beautiful in fact - and for us - for Eurasians - it’s important not to give up an inch to the West - and so they turned over in perestroika

                    Transnistria is our territory - and Russia is simply obliged to save it for the future of the Eurasian Union - if Moldova goes the wrong way - it is necessary to divide and separate the Transnistrian Moldavian Republic for us - strictly yes - but it is necessary
            2. +6
              23 May 2012 16: 01
              just about, the Bulgarians were shouting, -bratushki rescue from the Turks, and then they pushed against us with a bayonet at the ready-BRYAT PEOPLE, and Belarus and Ukraine will remember brotherly Baltic states for a long time
              1. +5
                23 May 2012 16: 33
                Find the army of romania
                http://www.globalfirepower.com/
                1. Vadim555
                  +1
                  23 May 2012 16: 41
                  Quote: Kars
                  Kars (1) Today, 16:33 1 Find the army of romaniahttp://www.globalfirepower.com/


                  Dumb!
                  But for dirty tricks there are forces.
                  The main thing is not to give them a descent.
                  True professor malocholen a little.
                  1. +1
                    23 May 2012 16: 59
                    Quote: Vadim555
                    True proffesor, malocholen a little.

                    Maybe, but I think with him if that point does not play, not Yushchenko --- he could have given it for the sake of European integration.
                  2. Splin
                    +3
                    23 May 2012 17: 23
                    And what should he do?, It is necessary to disperse the opposition from water cannons, or to press people for "Thanks to the residents of Donbass ..." You don't have to be petty like Yulka. He lost the information war in the West.
                    1. Vadim555
                      +6
                      23 May 2012 17: 38
                      Quote: Splin
                      Splin Today, 17:23 1
                      And what should he do?, It is necessary to disperse the opposition from water cannons, or to press people for "Thanks to the residents of Donbass ..." You don't have to be petty like Yulka. He lost the information war in the West.


                      The trouble for the people of Ukraine, as well as Russia, is that more than half of those who voted FOR Yanukovych actually voted not so much FOR Yanukovych as against the Orange ones.
                      But this is a sad fact.
                      1. +4
                        23 May 2012 17: 44
                        Personally, I am against Yulka. So I had to Yanyka.
                      2. 0
                        24 May 2012 06: 27
                        Yesterday I read the news ... Yulia and Yushchenko got leprosy ... but how I think that this one ... how many people have infected ... and all the dioxin ... the dioxin ... that’s who you should be imprisoned for life ...
                      3. Splin
                        +6
                        23 May 2012 17: 59
                        Let's watch the realities. We have a narrow circle of politicians. To engage in politics, we need money. We don’t have much choice in the diet of this kitchen, despite all that vinigret of political forces. Balabolit there can almost everyone, but no one to do. A vivid example of the money raised by people at the children's hospital of the future. They were eaten by left-wing people.
                        And today, the authorities completed the construction of Ohmadit without any donations.
                      4. Vadim555
                        +3
                        23 May 2012 18: 41
                        Quote: Splin
                        Let's watch the realities. We have a narrow circle of politicians.


                        That's it!
                        Himself was forced to for Yanyka.
                        When they say that there is a choice — Either change girls or beds, they brazenly lure the problem.
                        The building is not used according to its meaning and it is not necessary to improve the bardel, but instead of it it is necessary to make a workshop (for example, a sewing one) and "girls" are in business and society is satisfied.
                        And now the Nanai boys are fighting.
                      5. Splin
                        0
                        23 May 2012 19: 01
                        I came across an interesting topic "Ukraine You Don't Know" http://bolshoyforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=9356.0 . Ее открыли за два года до прихода Федоровича ко власти. Смотрю только фотографии и видео Контраст большой, а временные промежутки равные 2 года до и 2 года после.
                      6. Kievan
                        +7
                        23 May 2012 20: 07
                        Quote: Splin
                        A vivid example of the money raised by people at the children's hospital of the future. They were eaten by left-wing people.
                        And today, the authorities completed the construction of Ohmadit without any donations.

                        They were eaten by completely non-left people. And it was not leftists who sacrificed the same thing - business dropped Yushchenko into retirement. And this whole topic was conceived only for this case.
                        I don’t know which one you’re going to be crazy about, but nothing has been built in Kiev. Allocated 230 million from the budget for this business; I don’t know how much was stolen, but certainly not less than half. 290 million was allocated for the reconstruction of the Ukrainian house. Almost the entire first tranche for the project (6 out of 8 million) went back to the people in the Cabinet. The contractor (the same regionals) and the director of the house signed blank sheets - now they either build for their money or go to the prosecutor’s office. Although they themselves planned to steal half, but in the course of the ministry they robbed not only ordinary Ukrainians but also their party members. Now they are trying to complain to the president, but he hunts and plays golf, and he is not up to it. So all these stories about talkers and silent Donetsk business executives could be told before they came to power - now everything is clear on business.
                        Quote: Vadim555
                        The trouble for the people of Ukraine, as well as Russia, is that more than half of those who voted FOR Yanukovych actually voted not so much FOR Yanukovych as against the Orange ones.
                        But this is a sad fact.

                        The trouble is completely different - people are not able to demand responsibility from their chosen ones for their actions and promises. Whatever shepherd the rams choose, they are still taken to the slaughter. And the trouble is that the rams think that the problem is in the "bad" shepherd, and not that they are a herd of rams. For twenty years they have been robbing the country and the rams have been discussing everything about shepherds and shepherdesses instead of behaving like responsible people, not rams.
                      7. Splin
                        +6
                        23 May 2012 20: 25
                        In Kiev, I know better about Ohmadet. When this marathon was at the hospital of the future, my wife listed 400 bucks there. I don’t think she is the only one such a sucker. After all, it was so sincerely chattering from the screen. And when you had something like that in the past, this is a sore subject. Of course, four lodges of greenery are not God knows what money to protest because of this. But they threw people as a whole. And when Yezhel was collecting money for the first corvette, the people sank to the maximum anchor. thank you American Katya Yushchenko.
                      8. Kievan
                        +2
                        23 May 2012 20: 49
                        Quote: Splin
                        Of course, four lodges of greenery are not God knows what money to protest because of this. But they threw people as a whole.

                        People have been thrown for 20 years, and they do not want to go out to protest even for billions stolen from the budget and "privatization" in Ukrainian style. Moreover, everyone wants to live in a normal country, to have a normal government that treated them like normal people ... But they don't want to behave like normal people.
                      9. Splin
                        0
                        23 May 2012 20: 57
                        Always stolen, but there are unwritten laws. Only gypsies and hired beggars requested trams for the child’s treatment. But when it was done at the state level ...
                      10. Vadim555
                        +2
                        23 May 2012 20: 32
                        Quote: Kievite
                        The trouble is completely different - people are not able to demand responsibility from their chosen ones for their actions and promises.


                        Are there mechanisms to hold accountable?
                        No.
                        Can you offer something real and doable?
                        I do not think.
                        In general terms, I wrote that it is necessary to change the political system, not girls. How to translate it, I do not know.
                        There will be a strong and fair power in Russia, 2/3 of Ukraine (at least) will go to Russia.
                      11. Kievan
                        +5
                        23 May 2012 22: 24
                        Quote: Vadim555
                        Are there mechanisms to hold accountable?

                        Yes
                        In accordance with Part 1 of Art. 39 of the Constitution of Ukraine, citizens have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons and to hold meetings, rallies ...
                        Just not against Vasya Pupkin and Vasya Pushkin. And for specific changes
                        in the legislation of the country and for the specific responsibility of those who violate it.
                        Quote: Vadim555
                        There will be a strong and fair power in Russia, 2/3 of Ukraine (at least) will go to Russia.

                        Where can it come from if almost the same people live here mentally as here. No one will go anywhere, even if they want to - the authorities and the oligarchs will not let go, and if they could impose their opinions on both, then it would not be necessary to leave. The Russians in Crimea would have left long ago if they could, and just chatted. Yes, and the Russian Federation will not take the extra mouths on the oil and gas pipe.
                        Quote: Splin
                        Always stolen, but there are unwritten laws. Only gypsies and hired beggars requested trams for the child’s treatment. But when it was done at the state level ...

                        A thief is a thief. And how he steals from a children's hospital or from oil rigs or like Tabachnik instead of a college for the blind - he made a hostel for Euro2012, this is already the details. It is stupid to divide thieves into friends and foes.
                      12. Vadim555
                        +1
                        24 May 2012 00: 21
                        Quote: Kievite
                        Quote: Vadim555
                        Are there mechanisms to hold accountable?

                        Yes
                        In accordance with Part 1 of Art. 39 of the Constitution of Ukraine, citizens have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons and to hold meetings, rallies ...
                        Just not against Vasya Pupkin and Vasya Pushkin. And for specific changes
                        in the legislation of the country and for the specific responsibility of those who violate it
                        .


                        You are a romantic, by golly.
                        You for this +
                      13. Kievan
                        +1
                        24 May 2012 01: 15
                        Quote: Vadim555
                        You are a romantic, by golly.
                        You for this +

                        Actually, it’s not even a romantic at all, there’s simply no other way. Either fight, or leave before it's too late. I don’t want to leave at all ... Especially since I’ll have to flee not from the hordes of Changiskhan or the German occupation, but from a bunch of local clowns who simply use the passivity of the population.
                      14. Vadim555
                        0
                        24 May 2012 01: 30
                        Quote: Kievite
                        Moreover, it will be necessary to flee not from the hordes of Changyshan or the German occupation, but from a handful of local clowns who simply take advantage of the passivity of the population.


                        I think that forelocks will still be cracking here.
                        Look at the link to the military coup with us below.
                      15. Don
                        +1
                        24 May 2012 15: 48
                        Quote: Splin
                        Let's watch the realities. We have a narrow circle of politicians.

                        Politicians are not a narrow circle. There are a lot of parties, but they all look alike like two drops of water. Even the slogans of many are almost the same. How is the Fatherland different from the front of the Zmin or our Ukraine? Worse than this contingent is only the freedom party. Nevertheless, I think there is a choice. I will vote at the parliamentary either for the Party of Regions, or for Medvedchuk’s Ukrainian choice.
        2. +4
          23 May 2012 15: 55
          usual topic: everyone is used to disinterested Russian help and counts on Russian forces, on Russian blood. Like 45, Hitler banged and failed. It's time to change the type of relationship with Europe too, they still owe us for a stolen victory in the 1st World War ......
      2. +13
        23 May 2012 09: 45
        Romania, even armed to the teeth, is not able to fight with Ukraine. What kind of fighters are they? Odessa tea is still remembered!
        Horse-stealing is yes, but war is not for them.
        1. +2
          23 May 2012 09: 50
          Dmitriy69,
          I don’t know, I am tormented by doubts, my brother-in-law served in the Airborne Forces of Ukraine, three rounds for the entire service
          1. Splin
            +4
            23 May 2012 09: 55
            The Airborne Forces were previously considered strategic troops. And in Ukraine, they became an infantry class. And the infantryman in Soviet times could only three bullets bullet.
          2. +8
            23 May 2012 10: 15
            Quote: igor67
            I don’t know, I am tormented by doubts, my brother-in-law served in the Airborne Forces of Ukraine, three rounds for the entire service

            If you want to dispel your doubts, take a look at the story. That in both world wars, and even earlier wars, evidence of the fact that the Romanian army is only able to morsel in the rear and carry out punitive actions against unarmed ones.
            1. 0
              23 May 2012 10: 28
              this is not easier, here the DATA is given that along the border with Romania there are no military units, especially NATO behind them,
              1. +10
                23 May 2012 11: 21
                As you rightly noted, NATO is behind them, not ahead. I do not see any reason why the note could fit in with Romania against Ukraine. On the contrary, this would be the shortest way to the beginning of the reunification of Ukraine and Russia, does anyone need this in the West?
                1. 0
                  23 May 2012 11: 32
                  already fit in or through the United Nations, about the oil field in the Black Sea.
            2. 0
              24 May 2012 06: 40
              They had one episode ... but this is an exception ... which confirms the rule ... plus ...
          3. 0
            26 May 2012 09: 50
            now everyone is serving like that, and garbage is being shot at full
        2. biglow
          +2
          23 May 2012 14: 47
          Excerpt from the report of the Chief of General Staff Halder, read to the generals and officers of the General Staff as part of the Wehrmacht Academy cycle
          After all, firstly, in the event of a war, Poland should not have time to use all its reserves, and secondly, we are talking only about the masses of trained soldiers who have no chance against the Reich army. General education issues play a role here, I think the Polish soldier is the most stupid in Europe, if you do not take Romania into account.
          1. +1
            24 May 2012 00: 39
            Back in World War I, Russia’s GSH reported to the tsar: “If Romania joins the war on the side of the Entente, then we will need 1 divisions to save it from defeat! If on the side of Germany, we still need 30 divisions to defeat it! In any case! we Russians are not losing anything! "Militarily, Romania is not the country to be feared, even though NATO is behind them!
        3. +1
          23 May 2012 21: 15
          Dmitriy69,
          Quote: Dmitriy69
          Romania, even armed to the teeth, is not able to fight with Ukraine. What kind of fighters are they? Odessa tea is still remembered! Horse-stealing is yes, but war is not for them.

          They remember Odessa very well. The Russians (and by Russians mean all the former Baltic states are not counted as Soviet, including Ukrainians) are afraid like fire.
        4. +1
          24 May 2012 00: 30
          Earlier, even from the Union, in the Odessa region, in the city of Bolgrad, there was an airborne division, disbanded! The Romanians consider Moldova and Bessarabia "their" territory, as well as the shelf of Zmeinyi Island! They have seized the shelf, what will happen with Bessarabia?
        5. 0
          24 May 2012 06: 39
          Don’t tell me ... there is NATO ... and the very fact that the Romanians got into a mess ... someone’s ears stick out ... plus ...
      3. Olegovich
        +2
        23 May 2012 12: 00
        Quote: Ataturk
        We are a family. We must protect each other, unite, and not chop off the land once they go west. If they want it, they’re holding the flag. Then, so as not to run back.

        Great said !!!
      4. pribolt
        0
        23 May 2012 16: 21
        I agree you should not intervene, let them first decide what they want.
      5. +1
        23 May 2012 23: 56
        Ardent, with all due respect, never write about the fact that someone has chopped off the ground and so on. Do you have little land?

        We have few buffer territories, and Moldova and Romania will marry her ... Christiana Negri did not read the NATO charter along the way if a member of NATO would climb into the war on his own, other members of NATO would not support him, especially if the aggressor climbed into the so-called living space of Russia .
        And if they get on Odessa-mother, then generally put out the light and dump ...
        If they climb to Ukraine, a big brother will immediately come to the rescue, unless of course the farting army by that time will be reduced to an honor guard in the Kremlin ...
    2. Kamilla
      -1
      23 May 2012 10: 30
      Quote: Ardent
      If Moldova starts moving towards entering Romania

      in general, Moldovans and Romanians are one people .. they have one language .. and in Romania there is a territory called Moldova ...
      1. Ataturk
        +2
        23 May 2012 10: 47
        Quote: Kamilla
        in general, Moldovans and Romanians are one people .. they have one language .. and in Romania there is a territory called Moldova ...

        This is clear. But Oguzes live in Romania, or whatever it is, they are Christians, but their language is much more similar to Azerbaijani than Turkish.

        Honestly, I was stunned when I found out.
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          23 May 2012 11: 57
          Dear Omar Gagauz!
          Gagauzians live in Moldova more!
          By the way, the Karachais also have one to one language with ours!
          1. Ataturk
            +1
            23 May 2012 12: 32
            Quote: Yarbay
            By the way, the Karachais also have one to one language with ours!

            Okay? Did not know good
            We must look and read about them.

            Although if you divide the word KARA TEA - a black river? drinks
            1. Marat
              +1
              24 May 2012 19: 32
              I have friends and Karachais and Nogais from Dagestan - their language is closer to Kazakh and Tatar. In fact, these peoples - if it becomes difficult in the Caucasus - can easily settle in either Kazakhstan or Tatarstan - pass their own completely - and much better than the Uighurs or Uzbeks living in our country
        2. Kamilla
          +2
          23 May 2012 14: 09
          Gagauz, study with us, in our universities, because the language is very similar, and barter too ... the only difference is that they are Orthodox.
      2. +4
        23 May 2012 12: 51
        Camila, good health! —About Moldova’s entry into Romania, D. Ragozin, being in Pridnestrovie as the plenipotentiary representative of the President of the Russian Federation, clearly indicated what Moldova would expect in case of such a step. All this fantastic nonsense of the author from anger and powerlessness. So this is nothing more than another libel of inadequacy trying to draw attention to your person.
        1. 0
          23 May 2012 14: 32
          Quite rightly about the article, Stalin recalled, but forgot Peter 1 and the subsequent rulers and forgot what to do next. Empty chatter.
        2. 755962
          +2
          23 May 2012 15: 30
          Quote: Tersky
          no more than another inadequate libel

          But nonetheless, reflecting public mood in Romania itself.
          1. +2
            23 May 2012 21: 45
            Quote: 755962
            reflecting public mood in Romania itself.

            Of course, Eugene! And an unconditional plus for the addition!
      3. +1
        23 May 2012 21: 36
        Quote: Kamilla
        in general, Moldovans and Romanians are one people .. they have one language .. and in Romania there is a territory called Moldova ...

        They were never a single nation, Even the one whom they somehow consider their lord, Stefan cel Mare, spoke not of them in the best way, and he was actually the lord of the Principality of Moldavia, which was located on the territories that you mentioned. that in this case we can talk about the return of land by Romania to Moldova.
        There was time, I talked with the Romanians on this topic, the history they studied in educational institutions was turned upside down in a most interesting way. He was especially interested in their history, laughed. So their beloved Stefan repeatedly went to these Muntians (then there were no Romanians) and let them come off.
        1. -1
          23 May 2012 21: 55
          werevolf75,
          As I read, Moldova is much older than education, only Romany is correct and the origin appeared after the seizure of land by the Romans,
          1. 0
            23 May 2012 22: 09
            Quote: igor67
            As I read, Moldova is much older than education, only Romany is correct and the origin appeared after the seizure of land by the Romans,

            It is they who love to call themselves the descendants of the Romans, they just forget to mention who at that time fought in the Roman legions (the Roman Empire was death, everyone who was not lazy, but not the Romans fought). Moreover, Romania appeared as a state thanks to the efforts of the Russian Empire, which chopped off the lands of Austria-Hungary for these purposes, to weaken its influence. Up to this point, history does not mention any Romanians. There were Wallachians, Moldavians, Muntians. And before them all were SLAVES. And before the Slavs there were Scythians, and before the Scythians there were Cimmerians. Well, etc. etc .. Romania is a project of Russia, just Romanians prefer not to remember this ...
            1. 0
              23 May 2012 22: 16
              werevolf75,
              And in Ukrainian it sounds more beautiful than rumuna
              1. +1
                23 May 2012 22: 21
                Quote: igor67
                And in Ukrainian it sounds more beautiful than rumuna

                It is probably more correct to call them gypsies ... Although there are normal people among them, this is more an exception than a rule.
                1. 0
                  23 May 2012 22: 26
                  werevolf75,
                  They were accepted into the European Union only for the sole purpose of approaching the borders of Russia, and Ukraine as a buffer. I have a godfather in Italy, told how the rooins sell their babies there nothing sacred
                  1. +1
                    23 May 2012 22: 38
                    Quote: igor67
                    They were accepted into the European Union only for the sole purpose of approaching the borders of Russia, and Ukraine as a buffer. I have a godfather in Italy, told how the rooins sell their babies there nothing sacred

                    I agree with you 100%. The Italian police of the Romanians drive like Sidorov goats. There is nothing from the Romanians. They do not like to work, they steal more and more. Like soldiers, there are no words at all. The rulers have megalomania.
                    The ugly people.
                    1. +1
                      23 May 2012 22: 44
                      werevolf75,
                      Ceausescu at one time lowered them below the plinth, the rooins could not even kill the chicken without permission, my neighbor served at 80 at the border, they told us they swam across and fed them back to the bright future
                      1. +2
                        23 May 2012 22: 56
                        Quote: igor67
                        Ceausescu at one time lowered them below the plinth, the rooins could not even kill the chicken without permission, my neighbor served at 80 at the border, they told us they swam across and fed them back to the bright future

                        It’s not so simple ... But they were almost the only ones who owed nothing to anyone at the time of Ceausescu’s murder. Most likely he didn’t please the Western bankers - he was very independent and did not want their so-called help. They did not give him time to put the country on its feet. .
                        Although who now knows how it would be ..?
                      2. 0
                        23 May 2012 23: 01
                        It seems the only country in the world, they embodied all external debts, even managed to earn money from Jews, they also had to pay for an exit to Israel
                      3. Vadim555
                        +1
                        23 May 2012 23: 23
                        Quote: werevolf75
                        It’s not so simple ... But they were almost the only ones who owed nothing to anyone at the time of Ceausescu’s murder. Most likely he didn’t please the Western bankers - he was very independent and did not want their so-called help. They did not give him time to put the country on its feet. .
                        Although who now knows how it would be ..?


                        The Yugoslavs also did not owe anyone, as a result, the country was divided and bombed, and Milosevic was killed, already in prison.
                      4. +1
                        23 May 2012 23: 36
                        Vadim555,
                        Yes, and no one knows where the ears grow from ...- Democracy, however ...
                      5. 0
                        31 May 2012 01: 03
                        But they shot him well with his wife ... near the barn with two trunks

                  2. Run n gun
                    0
                    24 May 2012 16: 29
                    It’s absolutely true, they use Romania as a condom and they will throw it out later when they don’t need it. But it’s only needed to be closer to the borders of Russia. I was in Romania and I saw Romanians, they are social and social development and they can be as stupid as Latinos in USA. Moldova is another matter, a huge difference because they had Soviet development! wassat
                2. Vadim555
                  +2
                  23 May 2012 22: 38
                  Quote: werevolf75
                  Probably more correct to call them tsyga


                  Infe two years, but written with humor.
                  I am Romanian.
                  http://lev-sharansky2.livejournal.com/21550.html
                  1. +1
                    23 May 2012 22: 50
                    Quote: Vadim555
                    Infe is two years old, but written with humor. I am Romanian.http: //lev-sharansky2.livejournal.com/21550.html

                    lol good
  2. Gocha kurashvili
    +11
    23 May 2012 07: 11
    In Ukraine, they are always waiting for something .... People are not lucky with leaders ... You need to integrate with Russia !!! It’s harsh at home, but we’re relatives ...
    1. +5
      23 May 2012 07: 32
      And we are so lucky! In Russia, they would put things in order, and so call from one mess to another. I would not go.
  3. oper66
    +8
    23 May 2012 07: 12
    Another injection of political corrective information to create in the minds of the next hotbed of future tension - in a word, propaganda
    1. Yarbay
      +9
      23 May 2012 07: 19
      Totally agree!
      Romania is a very dependent country!
      1. Goga
        +7
        23 May 2012 08: 12
        Yarbay - Greetings, Alibek, I support your and oper66 opinion "+" and "+",
        an article - another and already fed up provocation, they found someone to scare - "Romanian warriors" bully - Ask our grandfathers how this army "fought" in the Great War? That Romanians have changed a lot since then? not even funny ... fool
        1. Splin
          +7
          23 May 2012 08: 18
          There are two rivers in Romania. Once it was said about them: "Russians on the Prut-Romanians on Seriat".
        2. Yarbay
          +6
          23 May 2012 08: 33
          Hello Goga!
          A big question is different!
          You can learn to fight !!
          In general, my opinion is that there is no bad soldier, it all depends on the commander!
          Romania is simply not the country that could claim greater independence in the coming decades!
          And if you get into trouble in some sort of fight, then only by order of the senior owners!
          1. +3
            23 May 2012 09: 12
            Quote: Yarbay
            And if you get into trouble in some sort of fight, then only by order of the senior owners!


            And for senior owners, the main reason has always been the presence or absence of oil and gas in the region. By answering this question with a great deal of certainty, one can predict the realism of such mythological scenarios.
            By the way, I watched the film, Alibek, He once again proves that with the filing of such national revolutionaries and figures outside the Pale of Settlement, the Russian Empire was later called the "prison of peoples."
            1. The policy of Russia (Yeltsin and modern) in relation to Armenia and the US policy in relation to Israel
            2. The policy of Armenia in relation to NK and Israel in relation to Palestine
            3. The differences and similarities (if any) in the actions of Palestine and Azerbaijan to return the occupied territories and whether Azerbaijan should act according to the Palestinian scenario as the levels are not comparable.
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              23 May 2012 09: 26
              Dear Stanislav!
              As for the film, I’m a little at a loss, I can’t remember what I’m talking about, but I suppose you mixed me up with Omar!
              it does not matter!
              1. In my opinion, heaven and earth! Israel dictates its terms to the USA, while Armenia in relation to Russia can only dream about it !!
              2. There is similarity, but still in my opinion it is very different both in derivatives and in actual situation (the population is expelled!)
              3. I can’t answer this question because I think there isn’t such a big resemblance! In my opinion, various conflicts have been committed!
              1. +4
                23 May 2012 12: 15
                Quote: Yarbay
                As for the film, I’m a little at a loss, I can’t remember what I’m talking about, but I suppose you mixed me up with Omar!
                it does not matter!


                Yes, exactly, I'm sorry. Avatar cars are in the same style and the "titles" are the same. It's just that by juggling historical facts they are trying to impose on us various stereotypes and scenarios like the equal responsibility of Stalin and Hitler in unleashing a war. From the same bell tower, one can reason about the analogies of the policies of the United States and Israel and Russia and their equal responsibility for all conflicts, without delving into the true causes of this or that event in the historical context.
                1. Yarbay
                  +4
                  23 May 2012 12: 36
                  Absolutely true!
                  In this I completely agree with you Stanislav !!
            2. -2
              23 May 2012 12: 53
              Ascetic,
              this is the attitude of the Palestinians towards Israel
              1. -2
                23 May 2012 13: 44
                I myself would have minded this (my) koment which is not related to the topic, but this is Ascetic’s answer,
                who must find the hand of Israel in everything. He just got it.
                1. +7
                  23 May 2012 15: 18
                  Quote: igor67
                  I myself would have minded this (my) koment which is not related to the topic, but this is Ascetic’s answer,
                  who must find the hand of Israel in everything. He just got it.


                  Recognize UN GA Resolution 3379, which was quietly repealed in 1991. on the eve of the collapse of the USSR at the request of the Zionist-fascist leadership of Israel and the United States, expel the Zionist government of fraudsters and speculators and no one will get

                  UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 “Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination” was adopted on November 10, 1975 at the XXX session of the UN General Assembly. She ranked Israel with practicing nations. apartheid, such as South Africa and Rhodesia, and ruled that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination. Similar resolutions have been adopted by various specialized agencies of the United Nations.
                  . It contains a reminder of the resolution adopted at the XNUMXth session, which proclaimed the UN Declaration on the Abolition of All Forms of Racial Difference or Superiority, indicating that
                  “Every doctrine of racial difference or superiority is scientifically wrong, morally condemned, socially unjust and dangerous”, and the anxiety expressed in it in connection with “manifestations of racial discrimination still occurring in some parts of the world, which in some cases is rooted in the governments of individual countries through legislative, administrative or other measures ”
                  ]. Resolution 3379 notes the resolution adopted by the XXVIII session, condemning “the wicked alliance between South African racism and Zionism. ”

                  The essence of Zionist policy is not to defeat Islamic terrorism as such, but to keep Israeli citizens in a state of constant fear and mobilization in an endless struggle for the Great Idea of ​​a God-chosen people, and the more Jews die in this struggle the better for them, the rest will unite even more and more more will hate the Arabs and everyone else who dares to criticize the fighting endlessly for just cause their homeland Israel and its Zionist leadership.
                  Theory permanent struggle (revolution) of one of the prominent representatives of Trotsky Zionism in action
                  And therefore I will constantly get it, you will not wait for anything else as they say in your people.
                  1. -2
                    23 May 2012 21: 14
                    It would be better if you yourself came to Israel and saw everything with your own eyes than to sit and scribble all silliness out of a rumble. In 75, I went to the second grade of a simple Soviet school and never heard of any resolutionsAscetic,
                    1. Odinplys
                      0
                      24 May 2012 04: 44
                      Quote: Ascetic
                      The theory of permanent struggle (revolution) of one of the prominent representatives of Trotsky Zionism in action
                      And therefore I will constantly get it, you will not wait for anything else as they say in your people.
                  2. -1
                    23 May 2012 22: 03
                    Ascetic,
                    What a racial injustice in figs, I am considered to be Ukrainian in Israel according to documents, because my mother’s nationality, a Russian wife, and Arabs live better with less taxes, so stop humping
              2. Yarbay
                +7
                23 May 2012 13: 46
                Igor, there’s a respected question in another! I’ll plus you since I consider that form of struggle a crime!
                But since I am very familiar with the methods of combating terrorism, I declare with responsibility that Israel is not trying to defeat this evil!
                and I am almost convinced that everything is being done so that this situation does not change !!
                1. -1
                  23 May 2012 14: 09
                  Yarbay,
                  I apologize to the forum users again is not the topic. you can’t imagine what kind of concessions the state makes, how many settlements they gave to Palestinians, although thousands of people received compensation for houses, they can’t buy anything for the money, there are statistics of terrorist attacks from 80-2006 on wikipedia, you look at the number of ordinary people who died in buses and cafes , my wife almost died in Haifa so well, the teacher detained them well, they blew up a bus in which she could blow up. I can give another example near our city a suicide bomber blew up a bus at a bus stop a girl a Jewess followed her an Arab Muslim (our son to a good friend) the girl was torn off her head and the Arab had a severe shock, he ran 10 km and screamed, then didn’t talk for 2 weeks, but he found the audacity to admit that he was a victim of Israel for free tuition when he entered the university in Italy
                  1. Yarbay
                    +5
                    23 May 2012 17: 32
                    dear Igor!
                    I know everything about what is happening with you!
                    Of course, not the details that you described, but the whole situation!
                    In the evening I will write to you in detail my vision of the problem in the face!
                    In principle, Ascetic wrote to you in the answer, in general, everything is correct!

                    *** The essence of Zionist politics is not to defeat Islamic terrorism as such, but to keep Israeli citizens in a state of constant fear and mobilization in an endless struggle for the Great Idea of ​​a God-chosen people, and the more Jews die in this struggle the better for them, the rest will unite even more and more they will hate the Arabs and everyone else who dares to criticize their Motherland Israel and its Zionist leadership, fighting INFINITE for a just cause.
                    The theory of permanent struggle (revolution) of one of Trotsky’s prominent representatives of Zionism in action *** - I fully support! Moreover, I believe that terrorism helped organize a lot!
                    with respect!
                    1. +6
                      23 May 2012 19: 47
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Moreover, I think that terrorism helped to organize in many ways!


                      This can be clearly seen in the example of the late USSR and the Jewish power of the seven-bankers in Russia, when well-organized and paid-up radical terrorist movements appeared in Russia and the CIS like mushrooms after the rain. One connection between the secretary of the Security Council, Berezovsky, and the Chechen underground is a good example, as well as the organization by Gorbachev, Shevarnadze and Yakovlev of massive ethnic and ethnic conflicts throughout almost the entire territory of the USSR.
                      In the USSR, I can recall offhand large-scale terrorist attacks on the underground in a metro group of Armenian terrorists led by Zatikyan blew up a car, explosions in Tbilisi and Baku by a certain Zhvania in 1975. That's probably all .. maybe someone will add, but I personally do not remember political attacks, all the remaining hijackings of planes and buses with children are commonplace crime, well, maybe Ilyin’s attempt on Brezhnev’s.
                    2. -1
                      23 May 2012 21: 16
                      Yarbay,
                      I will wait. With respect
                  2. Vadim555
                    +1
                    23 May 2012 20: 20
                    Quote: igor67
                    igor67 (1) Today, 14:09


                    Igor, the trouble is that everyone believes that Israel (like the USA) is ruled by Jews. This is fundamentally wrong. Puppeteers are Levites and Coens, for whom Jews (circumcised) and even Jews (Zionists) are just an instrument for achieving world domination . They can be thrown into the furnace of World War II, having received world power and money for this.
                    The main enemy of the Jews and Israel is their "spiritual mentors" - the Ravins (Levites, Cohens), who do not undergo circumcision (on day 8).
                    Even now, Israel does not want to fight, but the Coens and Levites, but they beat (blow up) the Jews.
                    Until you deal with this audience yourself, there will be no peace.
                    PS-How is Cohen and Levite different from a Jew, you will additionally find it yourself.
                  3. Run n gun
                    0
                    24 May 2012 16: 21
                    What an abomination and self-interest to pretend to be a sacrifice for the sake of profit. You cannot build happiness on someone else’s misfortune, because the Arab is not a pre-teacher there. God sees everything. No.
          2. Goga
            +2
            23 May 2012 09: 15
            Yarbay - that's right, "from the commander", but the commanders, unfortunately, are also Romanians fellow
            But seriously - the Romanian leadership has a certain dose of schizophrenia and, as you correctly wrote, well-known "puppeteers" can take advantage of this, there is a possibility of such a development of events. Of course, nothing serious will come of this, but ordinary people can be beaten again, what is someone else's blood for them? fool
          3. OSTAP BENDER
            +5
            23 May 2012 10: 01
            Romanian special services are very active in problem regions! Both Ukraine and Transnistria! Moldovan NIB (Information Security Service) consists of Romanian officers! And every year their activity intensifies!
            1. +3
              23 May 2012 10: 36
              OSTAP BENDER,
              And to you +, I completely agree, especially since our special services after the explosions in Dnepropetrovsk only managed to recommend putting non-traumatic explosions in cities ballot boxes.
              That's all anti-terrorism activity - SHAME.
              We will fall asleep immediately, just push.
            2. Run n gun
              +1
              24 May 2012 16: 14
              Yes, to sneeze on their specialists, in Transnistria, our GRU has been controlling everything for a long time! Romanian lokhsluzhby without the consent of NATO can not take a step.
        3. Cadet787
          +4
          23 May 2012 10: 41
          Welcome all. Father said that under the Stalingrad the Romanians were not even escorted, they told where to go, they with arms went to prisoner of war camps. Something combed these warriors. Now, as the next economic crisis breaks out in Europe, they will again run to us, to make friends as friends.
  4. +6
    23 May 2012 07: 20
    Well done author that raised this topic. Recently, one must keep an eye out, and the fact that we (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan ... the entire former Russian Empire / USSR) will not be finished off by washing, so skating is no secret. And the best thing is to finish us off with the wrong hands: Saakashvili, Qatari-terrorist, Romanian, hell-lysovskim, etc.
    Just coming up with their next scenarios, hai these little robots will think a hundred times: such crap will unite our peoples in any way, and not only I will go to die for Ukraine, if need be. I don’t know who these "royatki" are, whether they are Jewish-masons, or "1% occupy wall street", or "shadow government", or other perverts.
  5. Prophet Alyosha
    +22
    23 May 2012 07: 24
    Complete nonsense. What is Romania !? Ukraine is ours, even if the United States tries to offend Kievan Rus !!!
    1. Goga
      +3
      23 May 2012 08: 04
      prophet Alyosha - Greetings Alexey, I am ready to look at your poster every day and put a "+" good
      And under the article - what are we discussing? Crazy rut of a crazy Romanian? What is the article based on, black fiction? Oh nafig! they can’t see Transnistria even in rainbow dreams. And how do you like such a passage - a quote - "... of the Jesuit Stalinist nationality policy" - the fact that Moldova, brought during the Romanian rule (from 1918 to 1939) to complete poverty and devastation - a strong-willed decision "to support trousers" was slaughtered district - "Jesuit politics"? Yes, they didn’t even have a power plant there under the Romanians! The article is deep "-", the author is another provocateur angry It is simply not interesting to discuss and repeat about such "stuffing" request
    2. Run n gun
      +1
      24 May 2012 15: 58
      People in Ukraine are divided into 2 camps, some for Russia, others are benders for the United States and NATO. In the whole thing, Russia will not give Ukraine away for Western imperial capitalism !!!
  6. +4
    23 May 2012 07: 38
    why is there an armed conflict over oil and fish deposits in the Black Sea, though it will most likely be minor skirmishes with Romania, it is unlikely to reach a big conflict. http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = 4-WbjWn2a3k & feature = related on this video truth Turks urinate Ukrainian border guards
    1. Captain Vrungel
      +6
      23 May 2012 08: 21
      If we consider that from the Danube to the Dniester, and almost to Odessa, there is not a single military unit, except for small outposts of border guards and about a dozen old, physically and morally obsolete coast guard boats, very rarely going out to sea (practically not going out), then the feeling does not very nice. Therefore, the headquarters of the SOC are planning to move from Odessa to Dnepropetrovsk, away from sin. Authorities do not need an army. For them, the relatives of internal troops are growing, which are growing by leaps and bounds. The main thing is to ensure your own safety. and when threatened from outside, they will rush to their offshore zones to capital. castles and villas, children. This is our tragedy. And as has developed historically, all hope for Russia. Will come and protect.
      1. Splin
        +1
        23 May 2012 08: 25
        Bolgrad is a mechanized regiment enlarged to a brigade. But he squeaks about the offensive through the Chernivtsi region, motivating the support of his citizens to whom they gave a passport.
        1. Captain Vrungel
          +2
          23 May 2012 09: 25
          In Bolgrad, first removed. For twenty years, they destroyed the military camp and the airfield. Now deployed. All drugs on recovery work. And what will this battalion do, the main weapons of which are shovels, crowbars and trowels. And who returned the battalion to Bolgrad? Residents of Odessa region raising this issue in the media, because from the Danube to Odessa there were no military units except the military lyceum.
          1. Splin
            +2
            23 May 2012 09: 44
            The equipment has already gone there. And the airmobile brigade was transferred from there to the 2005th under Yusche. And what the hell do they need light weapons landing? In Novomoskovsk, she is better in tactical terms. The infantry is dug in there and will keep the line until our arrival. And our paratroopers do not even want to wear helmets. Despises. The fact that no one was transferred to replace them is here Yusch KOZE L.
            1. Captain Vrungel
              +1
              23 May 2012 10: 12
              In front of the yushch there were two more goats, now another. Do you know Ukrainian doctrine? We don’t need an alien land and we’re ready to sell our expensive. The land law will work like this. that we will soon pay the foreign land owners for the land on which we live and on which we walk. And the army becomes a burden. There will be nothing to protect.
              1. Splin
                +2
                23 May 2012 10: 50
                As before, the barnes were driven to slaughter. The ram itself feels and will not go. They put a goat in front of the herd and the sheep follow the herd.
                And about the military doctrine, it is not. The status of the state was established, but the doctrine was not developed. As for Kravchuk, I won’t say anything good, but Kuchma and Yanyk, like Pinocchio, take away the horseradish apple.
            2. 0
              23 May 2012 13: 37
              Splin
              in the next topic, regarding activation of SUShek flights ... You answered me that all this was due to the championship in 2 weeks, I have completely different information, seeing Yanukovych in Odessa region, 20 km. from the border with the Romanians aviation, ordered it to be removed from there as soon as possible, all with the same tactical thoughts.
              If this is so, then in my opinion the right move, by the way, today they are buzzing over the ear, and someone spoke in Ukraine 2 Strongholds One Mig lol
              1. Splin
                +4
                23 May 2012 15: 12
                Once there was only an open military confrontation, similar to the events with Tuzla. In the mid-90s, they openly demanded to anoxize the Serpent Island and even prepared an landing on it. Kuchma deployed a reinforced company of marine special forces and a squadron of SU-24 bombers near Odessa from May Island. After that, the Romanians shut up and went legal way both on the island later and on the canal on the Danube. If they won the process during the time of Danilovich-hell, he would give them what. And Yush was ready to bend. And he dispersed the special forces on Maysky.
          2. OSTAP BENDER
            +2
            23 May 2012 10: 07
            I already wrote on this site that Romanians issue their passports to Ukrainian citizens! We are talking about tens of thousands of passports, residents of the Odessa region wrote an open letter to Yanukovych, about the restoration of the Bolgrad airmobile division, there is still no reaction!
            1. Splin
              +5
              23 May 2012 10: 27
              Why do Ukrainians need Romanian passports? Yes, Schaub to go to Europe for free. Do you think they consider themselves Romanians ?. Half of them know only one city in Romania - BUDAPEST !!! I was lying on the floor when one "Ukrainian" told me this ..
              1. +2
                23 May 2012 13: 45
                relatives in Moldova (they live on the border with the Romanians, literally near the barbed wire) in the 90s said they had an "open door" day with the Romanians, so the Romanians cleaned out all their shops, and those who went to them so freaked out at home until then under there were straw, the same situation was with the invasion of Romanians a few years ago, they told again everything in the shops they cleaned ...
      2. +5
        23 May 2012 13: 36
        Ukraine has a joker - the Russian Black Sea Fleet, headed by the RC "Moscow", while it is there, no Romania will go.
      3. 0
        23 May 2012 16: 20
        on the other hand, there are only two transitions for the Belarusian tanks, where the Romanians will go in. They will create autonomy that will try to separate.
      4. -1
        31 May 2012 01: 14
        In history, there are cases where the 1 machine gun kept the shelves of soldiers for 24 hours so ... the garbage war is the main maneuver .. =)
  7. Opertak
    +4
    23 May 2012 07: 39
    Ukraine - Failed state. Her problem is that it will never happen, because is an artificial entity. It will either integrate into Russia or be divided between neighbors. There are no other options.
  8. Kolchak
    +5
    23 May 2012 07: 43
    yes ... that the PMR is part of Russia, it has to be declared for a long time already .... As long as this silence lasts, this small country simply fades away .... But a strategically and economically important territory ....
    maybe of course the top authorities do not want a second Kaliningrad ...
    1. M. Peter
      0
      23 May 2012 16: 29
      Yes, maybe it’s too early yet. We haven’t got enough power yet. All the same, the 90s and Yeltsiniade ended just 12 years ago.
  9. iulai
    0
    23 May 2012 07: 52
    any state is formed in a war with neighbors, with the conquest of territories, and Ukraine received its territories, as received, they can so be taken away.
  10. Splin
    +5
    23 May 2012 08: 06
    This book is not yet translated, only a brief description. The author himself admits that without the support of the Western forces of France and England in the war with Ukraine, Romania will fail. There is such a description that the Ukrainian army goes over to Romanian territory with a counteroffensive and large Western countries are joining the war. Just take into account the fact. That NATO will use its forces only if there is military aggression from the first side. If a member of the block unleashed hostilities, the alliance washes his hands. The book was written during the warlike Sarkozy in France and before the NATO war in Libya. Yes, in every society there are Natsiks and the book was swept off the shelves in the early days. Half a year later, interest in her faded.
  11. +7
    23 May 2012 08: 07
    Yanukovych has no more choice and no time. If in the coming months he does not enter into an alliance with Russia, then he will lose the election with a bang. After the euro, Ukraine will begin to move, otherwise the EU will wipe its feet on Yanukovych. We look forward to changes after the euro 2012.
    1. Splin
      +7
      23 May 2012 08: 14
      There is no dispute. On the one hand, the European Union is crushing political sanctions; on the other, Russia is economic. You have to choose. I personally do not like it when small nations (Czechs or Belgians) indicate how I should live!
      1. +4
        23 May 2012 08: 44
        It seems to me that Yanukovych will lose anyway. At least I would do something good for my people. We are inseparable from Ukraine.
        1. +3
          23 May 2012 08: 57
          Hi Zhenya, Seichas Janek is squeezed, the EU with a fool can cancel football. And after that, it either enters into the customs union, or changes places. In any case, it will be fun.
      2. +5
        23 May 2012 08: 59
        There is no dispute. On the one hand, the European Union is crushing political sanctions; on the other, Russia is economic. You have to choose.

        Why choose? History has long made a choice, even under Bogdan Khmelnitsky.
        And then, politicians (the European Union) can betray (politics is a selling thing).
        1. Splin
          +6
          23 May 2012 09: 09
          After all, the matter is not in the people. Let it be divided among us. Some look to the West, others to the East. But within themselves they consider a single nation. It's not about people, it's about those who keep billions in the West. They are now the ringleaders of the vector course. And it doesn’t matter, it’s power or opposition. Everyone stole from the citizens of Ukraine.
          1. Captain Vrungel
            +4
            23 May 2012 09: 42
            You understand, when politicians do not have weighty arguments, they throw language and East-West problems to the people, the people now have one problem, the maintenance of the wallet and how to make it from paycheck to paycheck against the background of the rulers and "masters of life, who are raging with fat, greed and luxury. ". For them, Ukraine is not a homeland, but a territory for mega enrichment. All of them are temporary workers, tumbleweeds, and at any moment, without regret, they will rush to their capitals in very far abroad. Their homeland is where their pennies are. But they must put before themselves a portrait of Lazorenko and remember that Interpol is not lured by the garbage-prosecutor-judicial accomplices. They will find and exchange gold bracelets for steel ones.
            1. Splin
              +4
              23 May 2012 09: 51
              There is no problem in languages ​​or vector. Yesterday, sociologists said a third of the citizens had never left their region. My wife has a girlfriend; she never left town until the 24th. And being generates consciousness.
            2. +2
              23 May 2012 16: 29
              and who said that their grandmothers in the west are safe, an example of the Libyans, and not only. Banks financed, and the owners bent over and kicked the cancer ..... drinks
              1. Splin
                +1
                23 May 2012 16: 39
                That is yes. They drove themselves into a trap. It's a shame that people are dragging along. It’s not so scary to die in an osprey.
              2. 0
                24 May 2012 01: 02
                Today there was infa that the EU is going to adopt a resolution on Ukraine andhttp: //news.liga.net/news/politics/667307-zavtra_semya_yanukovicha_mozhet_lishi
                tsya_vsekh_deneg_v_es_deputat.htm
                1. Splin
                  0
                  24 May 2012 04: 48
                  It is not so easy to take and freeze.
                  Although if only Europe says direct "no" Ukraine, Yanyk will stop flirting before them and Timokha will be transferred to a common hut. And there she will not last long. Zechki will not see her. Many have a similar hernia, no one babysit with them. She is not in authority, so she will be sent to work. If he refuses, they will be deprived of dates. And under the new Code of Criminal Procedure, only professional lawyers can defend her. Dotsya and Vlasenko- cannot be her defenders. And they will be limited access to the media and everyone will soon forget about Yulia as well as about Lazorenko. European politicians do not rummage in our mentality and measure everything with their own standards. It’s better for her, they won’t do it this way.
    2. biglow
      +2
      23 May 2012 14: 55
      Yanukovych will go to the polls only if they are held in parliament, for which they have come up with a special law and want to pass it, but instead of Yanukovych it will be tough in the open elections. Everything seems to be agreed with him
      1. Captain Vrungel
        +2
        23 May 2012 15: 14
        Tigipko is the same cunning with Moldavian grip. Lick and lick one place to all those where you can weld. Kravchuk and Kuchma during the theft of the Black Sea Shipping Company. Headed the commission. Eventually. Shipping company bankrupt. Two tens of thousands of sailors are unemployed. For 320 ships, cute Odessa hid in the fog forever. Kravchuk, Kuchma, Tigipko millionaires. I won’t be surprised if a Romanian passport is in Tigipko’s pocket. Everyone who has been spinning in power since 1991, at the Lukyanovsky pre-trial detention center, is 100% guaranteed that they are guilty,
        1. Splin
          +1
          23 May 2012 15: 25
          Kuchma may be a pid ... but he is an administrator-manager. Foreman in a large company Ukraine... Tyril himself, but the "soldier" did not hurt. And the ChMP was sold in three Kravchuk years. What was already sold under Kuchma was only a miserable remnant from the largest shipping in the world. Ukraine was sliding back when balabols were Presidents.
  12. Yoshkin Kot
    -3
    23 May 2012 08: 51
    has arrived, Nenko, some kind of gypsy, ready to tear her, like an ace of heating pad, to bandera
    1. 0
      23 May 2012 16: 32
      someone will dig again or .......
  13. +5
    23 May 2012 09: 19
    Of course, this article may be nonsense, but why not assume that the global game begins on the future division of Ukraine into the Western and southeastern parts.
    For example, this option: Romania, with the tacit consent of NATO, enters the territory of Besarabia (and it includes the Odessa region bordering Romania) an expeditionary force to protect its citizens from national pogroms (a huge number of Ukrainian Romanians and Moldovans have already received Romanian citizenship). Ukraine itself now does not have enough forces for serious opposition and naturally, Russia, together with Belarus, to protect the fraternal people and historical Slavic lands, with the consent of the leadership of Ukraine, send their troops and put in place the presumptuous Romanians. At the same time, anti-Russian demonstrations begin in the western regions of Ukraine, regarding the annexation by Russia and Belarus of the sovereign territory of Ukraine. The country is inevitably heading for a deep crisis and civil war. So that blood does not spill and the world does not collapse into the abyss of the third world war, representatives of NATO and the Collective Security Treaty Organization come to an agreement on the free will of the Ukrainian people to divide the country into Western and Eastern Ukraine.
    A fairy tale, of course, but as they say: a fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, good fellows are a lesson!
    In order to preserve its own integrity and independence, Ukraine immediately needs to determine where it is and with whom it is in this world.
    Flirting a girl with everyone in a row, very often leads to the fact that everyone has her in a row.
    1. Splin
      +1
      23 May 2012 10: 20
      Good tale. True, I read it somewhere, only in English. There NATO does not agree, stands up for Romania, as a result, the Chinese rule everything. And they still do not mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2NLb4X8-qU
    2. +1
      23 May 2012 16: 34
      And who said that Russia will give Crimea and the territory of New Russia
  14. moldavan
    +6
    23 May 2012 11: 19
    A huge request not to call Moldovans Romanians, since you insult the memory of people who fought shoulder to shoulder with Russians (and never mind) for Romanians, we are Ossetians for Georgians, the territory is needed and no more. The Autonomous Republic of Gagauzia announced its withdrawal from Moldova and joining the PMR (Transnistria) in case of joining the Romanians, I can’t post it, but who cares, take a look (Moldova is a small country with a great past), the name of the clip says it all
    1. +1
      23 May 2012 20: 48
      Quote: moldavan
      A huge request not to call Moldovans Romanians, since you insult the memory of people who fought shoulder to shoulder with the Russians



      moldavan If you carefully read my tale, you should have seen that it says "a huge number of Ukrainian Romanians and Moldavian have already received Romanian citizenship. ”My grandfather, a front-line soldier, is buried in Chisinau, I myself finished the eighth grade of secondary school in Chisinau, lived in Botanica, and served in Bolgrad, not far from Vulcanesti (the southern border of Moldova and Ukraine). Therefore, by definition, not I can offend Moldovans. But the truth is truth. The scenario of the annexation of Moldova by Romania has already been launched.
  15. +2
    23 May 2012 12: 04
    The scenario is of course unlikely, but who would have thought before 2008, for example, that Georgia would attack Russian peacekeepers (read Russia). But it happened.
    And Romania is far from Georgia, and Ukraine is not Russia. In addition, in Romania there is a clear understanding that the Ukrainian state is a zilch, and most likely they have the hope that Russia will not intervene under certain conditions. After all, Saakashvili had such a hope and was not groundless. In Romania, it is believed that the Russian government for 20 years has not made a single gram to support the Russian population in Ukraine, it is unlikely that even a finger will move for the Ukrainians themselves. Why should they think otherwise? So nothing can be ruled out.
    1. +6
      23 May 2012 12: 22
      Come on ...
      -This is all from the science fiction section!
      -If suddenly, just suppose, Romania (a NATO member) dare to attack Ukraine (formally neutral) in a week (maximum), the combined forces of Russia and Ukraine will be in Bucharest ...... (this is no longer fiction) and no NATO dare to intervene ...... (example of Georgia) ....
      ...... I write out of habit in, not in Ukraine ...... do not blame me ..... I’m used to it, I can’t overpower myself (The Bahamas are also a state, we don’t write in the Bahamas)
      1. Kamilla
        +1
        23 May 2012 14: 01
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        and no NATO will dare to intervene ...... (example of Georgia) ....


        Georgia is not a member of NATO, but Romania in NATO ... everything will be different here ... and if in a serious way, it is unlikely that Romania will attack Ukraine.
        1. M. Peter
          +2
          23 May 2012 15: 41
          Quote: Kamilla
          Georgia is not a member of NATO, but Romania is in NATO ...

          And Ukraine is a small Russia ...
          1. Kamilla
            +2
            23 May 2012 19: 31
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            And Ukraine is a small Russia ..


            I agree .... and no one will attack ...
        2. +1
          23 May 2012 16: 37
          and that they are mocking ....... yes in nete ......
        3. +1
          24 May 2012 01: 13
          Georgia is not a member of NATO, but Romania is in NATO, only NATO will stand up for Romania if it is attacked, but if it is a NATO aggressor, it’s washing its hands
    2. Ataturk
      +7
      23 May 2012 12: 34
      I don’t know, I don’t know, it seems to me aggression against Ukraine is tantamount to aggression against Russia.
    3. biglow
      +2
      23 May 2012 14: 52
      if the Romanians attack then Russia will have a chance, as they say now, to incorporate Ukraine and then respond to encroachments on friendly territory. 3-4 days should be enough. They will not enter Bucharest. Romanians can sleep peacefully
  16. DavidLinch2012
    +6
    23 May 2012 12: 48
    I have a woman working, she is from Transnistria, Rybnitsa.
    In her words, the well-known "Transnistrian conflict" arose precisely from Moldova's desire to unite with Romania. Those who did not want "forced romanization" now live in the unrecognized republic of "Transnistria".
    As for the Romanian attack on Ukraine.
    They don’t.
    Romanians bravely beat only the weak and unarmed.
    Ukrainians themselves are not weak guys.
    At least, my Ukrainian friends, Lyuli, can hang out healthy ones.
    I don’t know what the mood is in Ukraine, but many brothers will rush out of the Russian Federation, to put "presumptuous gypsies" in their place.
  17. zevs379
    +2
    23 May 2012 12: 51
    I’ll never believe that the Romanians will attack the first echelon! Only the rear of a strong ally to protect. Not the mentality. Here on the nerves to play it yes! It’s not worth it to be nervous. The article is just for promoting a book of the next silkworm .-
    (In the territories occupied by Germany during the Second World War, the word ROMAN is still considered an insult) laughing
  18. M. Peter
    +4
    23 May 2012 15: 36
    So what, it’s unlikely that Romania will decide to openly cling to Ukraine.
    After all, despite all the troubles that we had recently, for me Ukraine is the same Russia as a mother. And a direct military invasion is like declaring war on Russia. Although the Russian leadership may at first stumble, the situation here is that the majority of Russians will be for Ukrainians, and there will be nowhere to go from public opinion. So if something happens, Ukraine can count on Russia to love.

    They are not leaving their people in trouble. And Ukraine is the most OWN. For me there is no difference between Russian and Ukrainian.
    1. -1
      31 May 2012 01: 48
      According to the legislation and even treaties on the security of the CIS countries ... Attacks on Ukraine are tantamount to an attack on Russia in the first place (base) and other CIS countries .... in the second .. Ukraine, after mobilizing resources and the army, will be swept away by Rumunia itself ..
  19. vladimir64ss
    +5
    23 May 2012 15: 46
    Most likely, the book is written to reveal moods. No power in Russia can hold on if it offends Ukraine.
    1. M. Peter
      +3
      23 May 2012 16: 11
      What are we talking about. The Russian people are one and indivisible.
  20. BAT
    +6
    23 May 2012 15: 53
    The question is, will the European Union exist in 25 years? In the light of recent events --- doubtful. They themselves would be saved in such a fomat, as now.
    In its entire history, Romania has not won a single war, which it itself started. I also found warriors. Moreover, no one is going to give them to pieces Ukraine. We do not abandon our own. Let them just try to poke around. They will get worse than some in 2008. So, let them not dream.
    And this book is bullshit ...
    1. +4
      23 May 2012 23: 31
      sichevik,
      For its not long history, Romania independently did not fight with anyone.
      The only time they were seen in the occupation was when they took advantage of the weakness of the USSR and entered Moldova, but in 1940. the government of the USSR proposed that Romania leave the illegally occupied territories within 2 days, which they did quickly.
      Mostly prefer to nudge strong.
      I can’t imagine the Romanians attacking anyone or even conquering, let alone conquering Ukraine ....- chickens to laugh ...
      Bullshit definitely.
  21. patriot2
    +2
    23 May 2012 19: 38
    And the hunt for the Romanians to dig their own grave?
    Russia will not leave Ukraine in difficult times.
    And to compose, like in this book, such a thing - bullshit on a moonlit night! Correctly expressed sichevik.
  22. +2
    23 May 2012 19: 59
    To hammer in the hollow .. all the hominy ... and without hesitation .... "nation" damn ...
  23. +5
    23 May 2012 21: 08
    Well, robots, that's it! Now, after reading our komenty and monitoring the mood of the Slavs, they will say to themselves more expensive !!! drinks
    1. +1
      24 May 2012 01: 16
      There is no need to monitor here, everything is already clear
  24. Vadim555
    0
    24 May 2012 01: 06
    Got it.
    In Ukraine, a military coup was prevented
    http://fognews.ru/na-ukraine-predotvrashhyon-voennyj-perevorot.html
    1. Yarbay
      0
      24 May 2012 01: 18
      If this is not a joke, then I don’t understand if there really is such a thing in Ukraine that I would say people who are not friends with the head are generals!
      To because of Julia to go for this ??
      1. Vadim555
        0
        24 May 2012 01: 25
        Quote: Yarbay
        Yarbay (1) Today, 01:18 0
        If this is not a joke, then I don’t understand if there really is such a thing in Ukraine that I would say people who are not friends with the head are generals!
        To because of Julia to go for this ??


        It seems like the truth, but in fact nonsense.
        Moreover, they are also trying to mess up Russia.
    2. Kievan
      0
      24 May 2012 01: 28
      Yes duck it. And the site specializes in jokes
      http://fognews.ru/iosif-kobzon-zaderzhan-v-ssha-za-nezakonnyj-vezd-v-stranu.html

      http://fognews.ru/btr-101v-i-ven-go-ajvengo.html
      http://fognews.ru/ne-shutite-s-xazanovym.html
      1. Vadim555
        +1
        24 May 2012 01: 43
        Quote: Kievite
        Yes duck it. And the site specializes in jokes


        If a duck, then bad.
        Even Yaytsenyuk entered, then this is slander and there will be a court.
        I think the site will be closed for this, and done right.
        1. Splin
          0
          24 May 2012 04: 59
          This frog site is based on such crap. The truth is in their news, like a fisherman who caught a 3-ton catfish. They earn on a visit. The louder the news, the more money.
  25. 0
    24 May 2012 01: 52
    it's funny .. Romanians are not soldiers ... it's a fact.
  26. Run n gun
    0
    24 May 2012 14: 40
    Bullshit, why not write current to raise some rating for yourself !!! And the rest of the ears hung here. am Have you ever been to Europe at least once? Romania does not care about Ukraine; they have their own problems with a full garden.
  27. 0
    26 May 2012 20: 29
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugt5nkdM9zE&lc=F-PGmxrMmn1O9eNxQS14IgQz58S48DTA4n
    NDLuJxIPQ & feature = inbox

    Read here the Romanians are loading !!!! Interestingly, you can scream =)
  28. Kamilla
    +3
    26 May 2012 21: 42
    Yes, Romanians are not soldiers, that's for sure.
  29. 0
    27 May 2012 15: 30
    this is utopia!
  30. 0
    31 May 2012 00: 24


    Romanian (Gypsy soldiers led by NATO)
    1. 0
      31 May 2012 00: 30


      Ukrainian remnants of the Soviet military elite ..