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Now many will begin to grumble: they say they found someone to talk about. About Navalny and his gang, seemingly looking for information. And, actually, why not? If the information is found, posted and even confirmed? And as for the country's defense?

Of course, Navalny and the company give it in a peculiar form, but even in this case, we should not neglect the situation.

So, it all started with the fact that Navalny's news agency published a video clip in which they directly accused the General of the Army V. V. Zolotov, commander of the Rosgvardia, in financial fraud.

Special zest to the case was given by the fact that Zolotov was the former head of the presidential security service of Putin (from 2000 to 2013). As Navalny delivers, he was sent to a well-deserved rest, well, and feed up slightly. After a long and effective work - and why not?

Bulk - Rosgvardiya. 2: 0

Gold - in glasses, to the right of ...



Also a good environment, right?


“No” because, according to Navalny (and at the same time the state procurement site, Roskomstat and his eyes), the term “feed up” is not equivalent to the term “eat three throats”. And if we proceed from the Navalny video, this is exactly what is happening today at the Rosguard in terms of frauds with the purchases of products.

However, judge for yourself.



The authors have a very contradictory attitude to Navalny. From total rejection in connection with numerous fakes that were periodically exposed during the presidential campaign, to “but there’s something in it,” even by half. And Mr. Pravdoekatel has raked us more than once. Fact.

However, what happened exactly with this video, both led to the idea that Navalny "made" Rosgvardiyu this time. At least, such an opinion arises from reading the response of the press service on the page of the Rosguards. We apologize for this comparison, but you read the answer to the blog, which has already been viewed by more 2 millions of users, and there is a crib feeling. Clever beautiful eyes and lowing ...

Here's how a normal sane person should perceive the following information?

For those who have not read the article or did not wish to watch the video, we inform you that this is about two contracts for the purchase of food for the Rosgvardiys. 2017 and 2018's.

Navalny simply accused Zolotov of stealing billions. And as an argument cited the layout of prices.

The most terrible in this stories just that the leadership of the Rosguards ... the beginning of the controversy! Commanders began to make excuses on their website! Apparently, from 2 million some Rosgvardians did exist.

ABOUT "CALCULATION OF FOOD PRICES" DELIVERED IN THE NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

Naturally, an immediate response followed! In general, the impression was that the headquarters Navalny waited for such a reaction.

Ahaha, Zolotov, ahaha!

From bulk: "We compare prices for your similar contracts for two different years. And in one, and in the other, all this was taken into account, the volume of packaging and all GOSTs are identical."

From Rosguards: "... do not take into account a number of indicators used in concluding government contracts: seasonality of purchases, country of origin of goods, small-scale packaging of certain types of food (juice, oil), costs associated with the cost of transportation costs for delivery of goods to the established places of delivery, expenses associated with treasury contract support, the examination of food, the cost of packaging, packaging, labeling, loading and unloading. "

It is clear that it would be possible to powder the brains of the readers in the absence of the contracts themselves. But today it is not necessary to be a rocket scientist in order to independently compare contracts. At least for the authors it was not difficult to find these contracts.

And such "Mu" in response to the press service of the WG is enough. We must pay tribute to the headquarters Navalny, there is quite competently read the answer to your own material. And not only read, but also answered with conviction. We think that readers have already read this material.

If you think about it, the Rosguard with its response to the material only spurred interest not only to the problem raised, but also to Navalny himself. It is interesting how an ordinary person should perceive, who has to go through pension reform (there is no money, but we are for you, old people), VAT increase (there is no money, but we are for ordinary people) and other activities “for us”, the following statement by the WG:

"We note that all food purchases made by the Russian Guard are, without exception, transparent, under the constant control of state bodies and comply with all the requirements of Russian legislation."


Meanwhile, Navalny accuses Rosgvardiyu at least of wasting billion rubles (!). The video directly refers to the theft of this money. The purchase prices of products for the WG from December 2017 of the year (first contract) to June 2018 of the year (second contract) for some reason increased one and a half to three times. At the same time, prices are even higher than those that Rosstat gives for the same period!



There is another nuance, which is mentioned in the video Bulk. Order of the Government of the Russian Federation on the purchase of products from a single manufacturer from 2 December 2017, number 2686-p. There, the government refers to Art. 93 of the Law of the Russian Federation №44-Ф3 from 03.08. 2018 of the year (Clause 2 h. 1). Let's see what is written there: "... 2) implementation of procurement for state needs from a single supplier (contractor, performer), defined by a decree or instruction of the President of the Russian Federation, or in cases established by instructions of the President of the Russian Federation, from a supplier (contractor, performer), determined by a decree or decree of the Government of the Russian Federation. Such legal acts specify the subject matter of the contract, as well as the deadline for which the contract is concluded, and The limits of the duty of the customer to require enforcement of the contract. In preparing the drafts of these legal acts in such projects is attached justification of the contract price in accordance with the provisions of article 22 of this Federal Law. "

Good to the government. What we want is turned up. Disordered, then so be it. And the fact that this sole supplier is located in the Crimea, from which it does not matter to Siberia and the Far East as to the Moon on foot. It is important to support a private (!) Company. Yes, the Crimean, but private.

Meat-processing plant "Friendship of Peoples", by the way, is mainly engaged in exactly what it is supposed to be - work with meat and meat products. The sale of vegetables, fruits and their products is no more than an additional activity. Simply put, a combine is just an intermediary. (Combine "Friendship of Peoples").

Interesting, and the rationale for such high prices there? Or state pocket is not ours? You cannot buy beets in Moscow or St. Petersburg from your own pocket while in Khabarovsk. Own there and the quality is not worse. And from the state can?

Apparently, if you really want to eat, it is not just possible, but necessary.

To understand who is right in this dispute, and who is blatantly lying, I do not want to. And so it is clear that both persons involved are not gold. Mr. Zolotov removes the cream, earned over the years of immaculate service, Mr. Navalny wants sometime to do it.

We just express our own opinion on this issue. There are enough bodies in Russia that are obliged to sort out such matters in detail. The capabilities of these organizations are disproportionately large than those of journalists.

Resonance turned out. Congratulations on this Mr. Navalny. According to the answers of the press service of the Rosguard, Mr. Zolotov can be congratulated on the complete absence of the staff of the press service of professionals. Whether on the ad scored, or to pull.

The fact that Navalny “rolled out” the leadership of the Rosguard, using the simplest logic for this. And it seems to be revealing not very beautiful looking facts.



Let's see how events will develop. For what and who will be tried - for slander or for theft? Or will not?
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  1. Vard
    Vard 5 September 2018 05: 53
    +1
    Unfortunately ... You can say ... It was ... Tigers don’t report meat ... And who in the end eats this meat is not so important ...
    1. the most important
      the most important 5 September 2018 08: 16
      +61
      Quote: Vard
      And who in the end eats this meat is not so important ...

      How is it not important ??? Very important !!! And a certain bastard eats it. And because of this bastard, for example, after serving 21 years and quitting due to an injury that qualifies as a military injury, I did not receive housing, and my pension goes with a decreasing coefficient. Therefore, although I am not a supporter of Navalny because of his foreign policy views, I support all his investigations into theft from the state budget! The article is correct. Thanks to Roman Skomorokhov and Alexander Staver for such interesting articles !!!
      1. A good one
        A good one 5 September 2018 08: 37
        +11
        This is just a hint, and a tale ahead (this is me about an interesting article).
        1. Seryozha Timofeev
          Seryozha Timofeev 6 September 2018 19: 16
          -5
          Before the Great War, they make a bucket, allegedly with the aim of overthrowing the Supreme and his minions - the main goal is to arrange an internal disorder
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 7 September 2018 19: 52
            -5
            This counterattack of the Russian Guard is possible to support the Crimea and its light industry, if so, there should be an explanation for such differences, otherwise the liberals are right in this case. ..If they babble from the Rosgvardia about something else - packaging and other stupid things, then Zolotov will not be flavored and the charge of large-scale embezzlement is charged ......
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 8 September 2018 13: 10
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              This counterguard of the Russian Guard is possible to support the Crimea and its light industry

              rave. In Crimea, there is no meat production capable of feeding the entire guard. "Friendship of Nations" physically cannot provide such volumes. They just wash the grandmothers through the state farm
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 5 September 2018 08: 43
        +34
        Quote: the most important
        Although I’m not a supporter of Navalny because of his foreign policy views, I support all his investigations into theft from the state budget!

        And I am not at all a supporter of Navalny, rather the opposite in opinion. But, nevertheless, I believe that if fair accusations sound even from the lips of a liberal, then this should not be dismissed as resembling. Navalny’s investigations look at half the country, it is impossible not to notice them. And the authorities need to answer to society, hold the blow, and not ignore them like Medvedev (all this is nonsense and compote!).
        Quote: the most important
        The article is correct. Thanks to Roman Skomorokhov and Alexander Staver for such interesting articles !!!

        I will join.
        1. Izet
          Izet 7 September 2018 21: 07
          +4
          Hurry in vain! There are a number of regulatory requirements for the supply of products to law enforcement agencies. By calorie content, grades, shelf life, packaging especially. All regulatory documents with vultures from chipboard to Secret and Owls. Secretly. Although I quit a long time ago, I don’t want to communicate with the Specialists, so I won’t give any links from memory. But I will say one thing, it is not worth comparing exchange, wholesale prices with prices of state contracts. This is empty.
          The specificity is too great. Delivery conditions also affect the price, it is enough to study Incoterms here, and everything will be clear.
          Navalny, as always, however, chose a slippery topic (part of the info is closed and will never be published) and is trying to earn points again on this. If you didn’t see a film about him in Russia, go see how the guy lives. Not Mahatma Gandhi.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 8 September 2018 13: 12
            0
            Quote: Izet
            By calorie content, grades, shelf life, packaging, especially

            buffalo meat is very nutritious in sealed packages from Kansas
          2. Revival
            Revival 11 September 2018 12: 10
            0
            That is, a year before this, the standards and requirements were not respected? As for this, the cost was several times lower for products with the same requirements?
      3. Vard
        Vard 5 September 2018 15: 11
        +4
        All this is a common thing ... For example, overalls despite being several times more expensive than a good protective suit ... Usually completely uncomfortable and falls apart after a year ...
      4. Dimmedroll
        Dimmedroll 8 September 2018 14: 42
        +1
        It's not that. what he exposed. Where are the papers to the prosecutor’s office, to the courts. Or I dug up a type, and then do what you want with it? No undertook, go and judge and prove that you are right.
      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 September 2018 22: 04
        0
        It certainly would not be Navalny, but Ivanov could have been believed.
    2. Dashout
      Dashout 5 September 2018 08: 38
      -34
      Authors: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov. What about the text ... a little later. First I’ll quote from the press what Google warned about:
      "... about the inadmissibility of interference in the upcoming elections. The appeal is connected with the constant activity of dozens of YouTube channels that promote antisocial behavior during the voting period. In addition, such channels actually call on Russians to violate the current laws. It is noted that Google has not yet responded to the letters received, but the Russian authorities are in constant contact with the company on this issue. Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry intends to inform Washington that American information resources are "a millimeter" away from illegal actions, Rambler reports. .rambler.ru / tech / 40724518 /? utm_content = rnews & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylink
      Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "promote anti-social behavior"? Moreover, by encouraging moderators on the site, a support team for these authors has been created!
      Hence the question to the authors: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov - whose water are you pouring into the mill?
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 5 September 2018 08: 49
        +18
        Quote: Dashout

        Hence the question to the authors: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov - whose water are you pouring into the mill?


        Ban secured ... wassat Here, VO does not accept criticism, this is not "Putin's regime" ... bully
        1. Russia
          Russia 5 September 2018 08: 58
          +34
          Normal discussion, only forum users do not have a dog, among themselves, the authors also have the right to vote in the discussion, listen.
          1. FANTOM-72
            FANTOM-72 5 September 2018 11: 10
            -9
            Authors will not discuss. They just make unwanted comments. And it’s already clear on whose mill water is poured. Just mattress covers, as Bulk itself.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 5 September 2018 11: 40
              +21
              Quote: FANTOM-72
              Just the padding

              That is, let them steal as much as they want? The Russian Guard should be sued, not justified, these excuses look painfully childish.
              Quote: Dashout
              The appeal is associated with the constant activity of dozens of YouTube channels that promote anti-social behavior during the voting period.

              This is a statement from the Central Executive Committee of Mr. Klyushkin, as I understand it. And what was he going to do with Google, I wonder?
              1. FANTOM-72
                FANTOM-72 5 September 2018 15: 31
                +1
                That is, let them steal as much as they want?

                No not like this. But if you at least got acquainted with the original source (the so-called investigation of Navalny), and didn’t speak on the basis of Skomorokhov’s insinuations based on the Navalninsky nonsense (which in itself is nonsense squared), you would not ask this question.
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 17: 25
                -2
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: FANTOM-72
                Just the padding

                That is, let them steal as much as they want? The Russian Guard should be sued, not justified, these excuses look painfully childish.
                Quote: Dashout
                The appeal is associated with the constant activity of dozens of YouTube channels that promote anti-social behavior during the voting period.

                This is a statement from the Central Executive Committee of Mr. Klyushkin, as I understand it. And what was he going to do with Google, I wonder?

                bulk seen in large-scale manipulations and flows of lies !! wink yes but you read more of his "investigations" and believe in them !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                1. Beringovsky
                  Beringovsky 5 September 2018 18: 29
                  +15
                  What lie? I watched his investigation of Medvedev, some others, there are millions or even tens of millions of views. I honestly waited for a factual refutation ... waited a whole month. Yeah, schazzz, they scattered, and did not wait for anything sane, one moo - they say, do not believe fellow citizens, this is all a lie, because ... lies are all "counterarguments". Well, who to believe in this case?
                  Our government has become so degraded and stupefied by impunity that it has already forgotten how to lie, all the narrow-minded "childish" excuses.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 19: 04
                    -4
                    Quote: Beringovsky
                    I watched his investigation on Medvedev,

                    I stopped watching him when he started seriously rubbing about sneakers !!! laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Beringovsky
                      Beringovsky 5 September 2018 20: 34
                      +10
                      That is, in palaces, yachts, duck houses, etc. no objections?
                      And sneakers - cross out sneakers. good
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 23: 57
                        -2
                        Quote: Beringovsky
                        That is, in palaces, yachts, duck houses, etc. no objections?
                        And sneakers - cross out sneakers. good


                        this??? wink yes laughing laughing laughing

                        The Lublin court of Moscow fully satisfied the lawsuit of billionaire Alisher Usmanov against Alexei Navalny for the protection of honor and dignity, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom.
                        http://txapela.ru/blogs/konelav/sud-obyazal-navalnogo-oprovergnut-ego-zayavleniya-ob-usmanove/



                        or so ??? wassat wassat lol lol lol

                        In addition, the court ordered him to refute all the charges brought in the investigation of the assets of Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

                        https://lenta.ru/articles/2017/05/31/raund/
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 6 September 2018 00: 29
                    +2
                    I will not evaluate information (false or true). Bulk hits correctly (advisers sensible). God forbid, someone from the government will enter into polemics with him and make excuses - consider Lesha to have ensured 50% of his success. He achieves this - recognition of power. He wants the truth? Submit applications to the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor’s Office, post scans of applications with CUS numbers on YouTube channel, let people see, after the due time, post the received procedural decision - to initiate, refuse or transfer under jurisdiction. And his movements are attempts to "cash out".
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 6 September 2018 01: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      Bulk hits correctly (advisers sensible).

                      nuuuuu ... you could say that ... but the current doesn’t get into the people who are adequate and knowledgeable !!! wassat wassat wassat most do not care about him ... or do not know about him at all !!! yes yes In any case, the current is quite short-sighted not at the rate that he is lying and does not blush !!! laughing laughing soldier soldier soldier
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 6 September 2018 09: 23
                        +2
                        Kolya, that's what the calculation is for. Beat the crowd with throws. The crowd will not understand, it will fight in ecstasy.
                  3. nickname7
                    nickname7 6 September 2018 08: 06
                    -1
                    Navalny’s investigations are specific, they are based on emotions, many many emotions and outrageous, demagoguery, controversial and dubious arguments. This is all extremely base. Bulk does not investigate, it creates seething.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 7 September 2018 18: 12
                      0
                      Exactly. Main Information Noise.
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 5 September 2018 12: 00
              +14
              Quote: Dashout
              Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "advocate antisocial behavior"?

              This is a serious accusation! Propaganda! Antisocial behavior!
              ... These zaputintsy give free rein, they will declare you a traitor! Where did you see the "antisocial behavior" ?? What is it? No need to rush with loud words! ... And if Putin were shouted about getting up from his knees and that pensions were "not needed" - would that be normal social behavior? But people like you are doing just that here.
              It would be better to be silent in a rag, such as you, except for hostility do not cause anything.
              Quote: Nasr
              Ban provided.

              Quote: FANTOM-72
              They just make unwanted comments.

              Quote: Less
              An interesting comment, it’s a pity it doesn’t sag for a long time - they’ll delete it.

              It seems past! Ah, zaputintsy? What are your words really worth and accusations, by the way ... yes, nothing!
              1. Loess
                Loess 5 September 2018 12: 32
                -4
                Quote: Stas157
                It seems past! Ah, zaputintsy?

                The curtains?
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 5 September 2018 13: 35
                  -5
                  Quote: Less
                  The curtains?

                  Are you to yourself?)) I considered you a Zedrozavets! It makes no difference to me - one garbage.

                  By the way, moderators have every right to delete comments, where they discuss article authors! It is in the rules. I personally have already been banned about this. But I didn’t take offense, and did not write on each fence that they say that they are being demolished by objectionable comments!
                  1. Loess
                    Loess 5 September 2018 13: 49
                    +5
                    Firstly, I don’t remember that we switched to "you", and secondly, what did you dislike? Or do you just like to hang labels? Don't like trying on yourself?
                  2. A good one
                    A good one 5 September 2018 14: 15
                    +7
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Quote: Less
                    The curtains?

                    Are you to yourself?)) I considered you a Zedrozavets! It makes no difference to me - one garbage.

                    By the way, moderators have every right to delete comments, where they discuss article authors! It is in the rules. I personally have already been banned about this. But I didn’t take offense, and did not write on each fence that they say that they are being demolished by objectionable comments!

                    Call the second star to wash, comrade go the right way. hi
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 5 September 2018 14: 32
                      +6
                      Quote: Not bad
                      Call the second star to wash, comrade go the right way.

                      Don't even try to blame me for earning stars! Look at my profile, actually I’ve been on the site since I was 13 years old. And some here in a year become marshals!
                      So you registered only half a year ago, and you already have the same epaulettes as mine ... So you should rather call for washing another star!
                      1. A good one
                        A good one 5 September 2018 14: 56
                        +3
                        I have a wide soul I will call everyone. hi But my road is in the opposite direction.
                      2. Stas157
                        Stas157 5 September 2018 15: 35
                        +7
                        Quote: Not bad
                        But my road is in the opposite direction.

                        For God's sake! I am quite understanding and friendly towards people, despite their beliefs. And to the Zaputinians, too.

                        In real life they are usually simple, modest, nothing remarkable people who do not create any problems. But here on the site we have some special zaputintsy! All the time they are gutturals, louts through one, all the time they turn to personalities, and sometimes they carry such nonsense that it seems a normal person, not engaged, not about crying, just can not. At the same time, they are very prolific on comments ... they are everywhere, at any time of the day you open an article - and they are already there, as if on a military post!

                        Do not take everything at your own expense, this does not apply to you personally.)) hi
                      3. Stas157
                        Stas157 5 September 2018 15: 48
                        +4
                        Thank you all for the cons! Friends, you are trying hard. This is the best response to accusing me of earning stars.
                        Quote: Not bad
                        Call the second star to wash
                      4. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 5 September 2018 17: 10
                        +3
                        Quote: Stas157
                        ... They are in real life usually simple, modest, nothing remarkable people ...

                        It seems to be not insulting, but on the other hand they described such slugs imperceptible.
                        Quote: Stas157
                        ... But here on the site we have some special zaputintsy! All the time they are gutturals, louts through one, all the time they turn to personalities, and sometimes such nonsense is carried that it seems like a normal person, not engaged, not about crying, it just can’t ...

                        You don’t get personal, but here you devoted a paragraph to a whole group of people whom you call "zaputintsy": they poured slops on their unfortunate ones - from the heart negative
                        Dear, what about the army, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies?
                        The site, in principle, rests on topics related to the power component of our state - Russia yes
                        Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin - Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. That is, all the siloviki, a priori "zaputintsy", even simply solely by virtue of the principle of one-man command and the prohibition of the activities of political parties in power structures.
                        Accurate in terms, Stas157 hi
                    2. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 6 September 2018 00: 31
                      0
                      So the tactics of Lesha. Shout from three boxes and into the bushes.
                  3. Andrey K
                    Andrey K 5 September 2018 16: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: Stas157
                    ... By the way, moderators have every right to delete comments, where authors of articles are discussed! It is in the rules. I personally have already been banned about this. But I was not offended, and did not write on each fence that they say that they are being demolished by objectionable comments! ...

                    Offset wassat
                    With the next "jamb", you will have a chance to demand a bonus from the site administration - an extra life laughing
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 8 September 2018 00: 52
                  +2
                  It is a birthmark.
            3. kakvastam
              kakvastam 5 September 2018 15: 41
              +25
              That is, stealing is good, and the cops are all in the furnace?
              Navalny’s danger lies precisely in the fact that he filled the country's lack of control over the authorities, and naturally filled in his own interests.
              The sane leader, having received the signal, checks it and, if necessary, reacts, and does not seek to punish the complainant.
              The vulnerability of the "power vertical" is precisely that it superbly blocks the passage of unnecessary signals in both directions, while Mr. Putin does not seem to have other channels.
              How the system behaves without feedback, I think everyone understands. With which I congratulate you.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 6 September 2018 00: 37
                +11
                Here, a good comment. Plus, the lack of feedback, although, according to the Constitution, the people are the source of power. They are required to report. Another thing that infuriates is that on direct lines with GDP people complain about various situations, the President takes control and it turns out that people are mostly right. But they complained to various bodies of the subjects and the federal government. Has anyone been held responsible for formal unsubscribes or generally for silence? Did anyone check out a reprimand? Do many wait for the next straight line?
              2. Karislav
                Karislav 6 September 2018 10: 13
                +3
                100% true
      2. the most important
        the most important 5 September 2018 09: 06
        +19
        Quote: Dashout
        Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "promote anti-social behavior"?

        Is it really Skomorokhov advocates for the looting of the budget ??? And what could be worse than theft of public funds ???
      3. Loess
        Loess 5 September 2018 09: 44
        +2
        Quote: Dashout
        Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "promote anti-social behavior"? Moreover, by encouraging moderators on the site, a support team for these authors has been created!

        An interesting comment, it’s a pity it doesn’t sag for a long time - they’ll delete it.
        1. kakvastam
          kakvastam 5 September 2018 15: 43
          +7
          The eighth hour is hanging.
          Your spell did not work.
      4. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 5 September 2018 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: Dashout
        Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors

        Duc, as soon as the shop is closed, we will learn the "mileage". laughing
      5. pormezan
        pormezan 5 September 2018 09: 57
        +11
        I always like legal-illegal discourse. Let me remind you that Hitler burned in the furnaces of the Slavs, Jews and others on completely legal grounds. Just having come to power legally through democratic elections, he issued such laws and not obeying them threatened the evaders to end up in the gas chamber themselves. That is, in vain did we stop law-abiding Hitler and all of Germany? Was it still legal?
      6. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 5 September 2018 10: 02
        +11
        Quote: Dashout
        The appeal is related to the ongoing activities of dozens of YouTube channels that promote anti-social behavior during the voting period.

        As far as I understand from media reports, this is due to calls to go to the rally on election day.
        Quote: Dashout
        and at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "promote anti-social behavior"?

        As for me, so on a huge one. The mentioned authors do not issue any calls for rallies either on election day or on any other day. And what about "throwing out topics that" promote antisocial behavior "? Well, do not blame me: such a situation in the country. A professional journalist is supposed to cover important topics.
      7. kakvastam
        kakvastam 5 September 2018 15: 29
        +8
        How lovely!
        The beloved EP and the adored Sunshine are not sufficiently praised here!
        Well, just a hotbed of sedition of some kind.
      8. credo
        credo 5 September 2018 17: 27
        -2
        Quote: Dashout
        Authors: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov. What about the text ... a little later. First I’ll quote from the press what Google warned about:
        "... about the inadmissibility of interference in the upcoming elections. The appeal is connected with the constant activity of dozens of YouTube channels that promote antisocial behavior during the voting period. In addition, such channels actually call on Russians to violate the current laws. It is noted that Google has not yet responded to the letters received, but the Russian authorities are in constant contact with the company on this issue. Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry intends to inform Washington that American information resources are "a millimeter" away from illegal actions, Rambler reports. .rambler.ru / tech / 40724518 /? utm_content = rnews & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylink
        Now the question is: at what distance from illegal actions is the VO website and specific authors (Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov), who periodically throw out topics that "promote anti-social behavior"? Moreover, by encouraging moderators on the site, a support team for these authors has been created!
        Hence the question to the authors: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov - whose water are you pouring into the mill?

        Not on the topic of the article, but in the continuation of your question.
        Yes, now there are many (or even a lot) of sites that are not clear from where they "grow" and it is not clear what they live on.
        Here, for example, VO has no editorial office on the website of the editorial office and one can only guess where it is located, in Moscow or Washington. The same applies to employees - they most likely sit at home, and the house itself can be located in any country in the world. Of course, now this is not forbidden and is not prohibited by law, but the environment and life always affect the perception of the world in a particular person.
        Similarly, you can look at the founder of VO - "VO-media". There is no initial data and even an INN, but on the Internet there are various articles on the company of the same name, not very pleasant content for some of the local visitors, but of course it is not possible to check this due to the lack of initial data on this site. In general, no one knows what "VO-media" is and what its structure is, how it lives and what it lives on.
        And by the way, it’s also an important fact - many probably paid attention to pretty good sites, as well as TV channels, periodically asking for financial help, and VO doesn’t ask, despite the fact that there is very little or even little advertising, although it’s probably very expensive and allows a large team to live.
        So your question has the right to be despite the fact that someone found it unacceptable.
        1. Dashout
          Dashout 5 September 2018 19: 45
          0
          You pose interesting questions .... whose mill is duck?
          1. credo
            credo 6 September 2018 11: 53
            -1
            Quote: Dashout
            You pose interesting questions .... whose mill is duck?

            Honestly, there are different answers to your question, but without specific information it will be fortune-telling on coffee grounds.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 6 September 2018 00: 39
          +3
          Before you put questions about addresses into the topic, delve into. “VO Media”, LLC, has owners and a legal address. Will you find it yourself or throw a link?
          1. credo
            credo 6 September 2018 11: 49
            -1
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Before you put questions about addresses into the topic, delve into. “VO Media”, LLC, has owners and a legal address. Will you find it yourself or throw a link?

            What topic do you propose to delve into? You can throw off the link.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 7 September 2018 18: 17
              -1
              There are specialized resources - paid and free. I can advise you for an honest business. In the search bar, enter the name of the organization, TIN, you can full name of the leaders and founders. The system will give you the results. Specifically for your question, enter VO media. You will see everything - the address of registration, owners, financial results for the last reporting year.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 8 September 2018 00: 53
                +3
                Just wondering who set the cons, even read what is written? Lavrov’s words about you.
      9. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 5 September 2018 18: 01
        +1
        So it means - Power - we will charge you such taxes as we see fit, we will spend of them on state and social programs as much as we want, and as much as we want - on ourselves.
        We will pay everything we want from the state budget at the price at which we like - two, three and even ten times more expensive than the market - and do not dare to tell us that this is wrong!
        I understand you correctly, esteemed defender of non-respectable authority?
        1. credo
          credo 5 September 2018 18: 13
          +1
          Quote: Beringovsky
          So it means - Power - we will charge you such taxes as we see fit, we will spend of them on state and social programs as much as we want, and as much as we want - on ourselves.
          We will pay everything we want from the state budget at the price at which we like - two, three and even ten times more expensive than the market - and do not dare to tell us that this is wrong!
          I understand you correctly, esteemed defender of non-respectable authority?

          No, since my comment was not about power, but about the site and its authors.
          As for the article itself, which I read, but did not comment, then everything is explained quite simply - before commenting on it, you need to read the documents of the Russian Guard and Navalny, which are referred to in the article. I have not read them yet.
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 5 September 2018 21: 09
            -4
            The site is strange, very ...
            Actually, I didn’t write to you, so I apologize. drinks
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 8 September 2018 00: 54
            +1
            But Beringovsky knows the whole truth.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 8 September 2018 00: 54
          0
          Do not yell, drooling through the screen fly.
      10. Slavik Ivanov
        Slavik Ivanov 6 September 2018 00: 09
        0
        In any case, here on VO they just indulged the "cops" who covered up drugs !!!! After all, VOs could raise this topic more often, there are no people left in Russia, there is no one to work, let alone to fight, to serve, and everyone wants good pensions !?
      11. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 6 September 2018 05: 51
        +2
        Praising authority cannot be criticized. Put a comma yourself, please. sad
      12. Revival
        Revival 11 September 2018 12: 12
        0
        And than the article provokes antisocial! Behavior?
    3. A.Lex
      A.Lex 5 September 2018 11: 29
      0
      And where are the tigers? And the fact that they began to cite the navalities here is a rather alarming fact. Talks a lot about this resource .... Sliding down? Nude ...
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    1. Russia
      Russia 5 September 2018 08: 05
      +10
      There is a signal that needs to be unambiguously understood, it is the same as the whole citizen of your country, though it is muddy and slippery, but without it it’s hard to stay at the peak of the wave.
      1. milling machine
        milling machine 5 September 2018 09: 36
        +13
        I'm just wondering why they deleted my comment, which is a little higher, without explanation. Mate and insults were not there, the truth + was under 20 - apparently this is a violation.
        I get the feeling that you can not write comments on VO and it’s better not to read at all, since this happens here.
        1. Deck
          Deck 5 September 2018 11: 01
          +11
          I subscribe to the question. My quite polite comment was deleted, and I didn't like it. The word "trolling", which is used by moderators, as well as the word "extremeism", can be pulled over any comment. By the way, the content and tone of the article, what if not trolling?
      2. Winnie76
        Winnie76 5 September 2018 13: 05
        +7
        Quote: Rusland
        There is a signal that needs to be clearly understood

        What to understand? The Prime Minister with his own hands gave the monopoly to some muddy little firm. Who will get on him, he is the chairman ...
    2. Maverick1812
      Maverick1812 5 September 2018 08: 32
      +27
      Moreover! In order to dig something, you don’t need to dig! Bulk takes everything from the surface, without going deep so to speak! This indicates that those in power do not know the fear and the shores have long beguiled ....
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 18: 04
        -5
        Quote: Maverick1812
        Bulk takes everything from the surface, without going deep so to speak!

        and constantly catch him in a lie !!! wink yes wassat wassat lol lol lol
        1. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 6 September 2018 05: 53
          +3
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          and constantly catch him in a lie !!!

          For example?
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 6 September 2018 19: 08
            -2
            Quote: Tibidokh
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            and constantly catch him in a lie !!!

            For example?

            look at my comments on my profile ... there are links ... well, or poke around in these comments - I dropped the links here !! wassat wassat wassat
            1. Tibidokh
              Tibidokh 7 September 2018 07: 34
              0
              If you are too lazy to seek confirmation of your own words, then I am even more so. hi
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 5 September 2018 06: 34
    +9
    The situation is obscene: one thief accuses the theft of other thieves, if he breaks into power, he will also steal ..
    1. Peter Smith
      Peter Smith 5 September 2018 07: 28
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      The situation is obscene: one thief accuses the theft of other thieves, if he breaks into power, he will also steal ..

      Do you blame a person for theft? But he did not steal! Can you apologize? And then the situation turns obscene ....
    2. pormezan
      pormezan 5 September 2018 09: 59
      -4
      And whose one I can’t minus you? Huh?
    3. novel66
      novel66 5 September 2018 10: 15
      +6
      oh, if only to steal, there the scope takes higher
    4. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 September 2018 15: 50
      +4
      Do you propose stopping the fight against embezzlement of budget funds, since theft in human nature?
    5. Imobile
      Imobile 5 September 2018 17: 00
      +4
      Why
      You took that Bulk thief, officials said? Or saw it yourself? See my comment below.
  5. svp67
    svp67 5 September 2018 06: 37
    +25
    What can you say ... Put, in due time and for the cause of Mr. Serdyukov, you look now and this scandal would not have happened ... Since these "trusted people" are not put on posts "for feeding", but to do business ... But human greed even overpowers the instinct of self-preservation ... I don't like all this, I really don't like it. More and more, the beginning of the 90s begins to resemble.
    And another question, but what about the other "oppositionist", Mr. Kudrin is then silent, like it is now his job to identify such violations or is also "feeding", but what about the principles?
    1. Ivan staryi
      Ivan staryi 5 September 2018 07: 12
      0
      And it’s too early to ask Mr. Kudrin. Conducting a superficial analysis of information from the public procurement website and making a video clip based on it with the appropriate knowledge, skills and experience is not difficult and does not take much time.
      The Accounts Chamber in its activities, like any other control or law enforcement body, is limited in its work by a mass of various instructions, rules, judicial practice, etc. Accordingly, to organize and conduct an audit, and most importantly also to implement the materials obtained during its course, this is not a matter of one week.
      Mr. Navalny may simply laugh at the arguments presented by the Russian Guard. While the specialist will have to tear down each argument on the shelves with the corresponding calculations and analysis.
      1. Maverick1812
        Maverick1812 5 September 2018 08: 37
        +4
        Nevertheless, there are plenty of grounds for verification, much less voiced throughout the country!
        1. BAI
          BAI 5 September 2018 09: 05
          +1
          You can voice anything. The basis for verification can only be an official appeal. The inspection bodies will not have enough pants if they run for every voice acting. And the scope of denunciations will expand significantly if you respond to every line on the Internet.
          1. pormezan
            pormezan 5 September 2018 10: 01
            +5
            Well, yes, a cool excuse, that would not be judged for theft. Like, we are busy and we have no time.
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 5 September 2018 08: 15
      -18
      Quote: svp67
      Plant, at the time and for the cause of Mr. Serdyukov, you would look now and this scandal would not exist ...

      Plant, at the time and for the cause of Mr. Serdyukov, you look at the modern Russian army - there wouldn’t be.

      Any structure is not capable of reforming itself. You definitely need an outsider who is specially assigned to solve these problems. All Serdyukov's "shoals" were an excellent cover for the real reformatting and rearmament of the army. Our "polite people" in Crimea put the West in perplexity and this is the best indicator that Serdyukov coped with his main task perfectly!
      1. pormezan
        pormezan 5 September 2018 10: 03
        +10
        Yes, then in general, the whole mess of Putin’s mongrel is just one cover, so that the West does not notice how we are far ahead of it. Tell the children in the kindergarten, they still believe in fairy tales.
        1. twviewer
          twviewer 5 September 2018 17: 07
          +8
          so in kindergartens exactly the same purchases, on the same principles, so the kids know the same,
          look at the prices for kindergartens for fun
      2. Imobile
        Imobile 5 September 2018 17: 03
        -9
        Serdyukov raised the army, we must pay tribute to him.
      3. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 6 September 2018 00: 18
        0
        "If, in due time and for the cause of Mr. Serdyukov, you see, the modern Russian army would not exist."
        Yeah ... One Taburetkin aka Hercules fearlessly fought against the hydra of the many-headed general, cutting off her heads one after another with a sharp sword, for which this husband is worthy of praise from the jubilant fellow citizens.
        And the General Staff was sitting in the corner and crying quietly ...
      4. Tibidokh
        Tibidokh 6 September 2018 05: 57
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        All Serdyukov's "shoals" were an excellent cover for the real reformatting and rearmament of the army.

        The principle is clear! In the Russo-Japanese War they lost on purpose, in 2082 to defeat the army of zorgs, which had lost their vigilance, and invaded the land. wassat
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 September 2018 11: 53
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      What can I say ... Plant, in due time and for the cause of Mr. Serdyukov, you would look now and this scandal would not exist ...

      Blessed is he who believes ...
      For our eastern neighbor, even the highest measure does not save us from corruption - new shots come to replace the shot ... and in the end they also end up with a wall.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 September 2018 12: 46
        +5
        Quote: Alexey RA
        For our eastern neighbor, even the highest measure does not save us from corruption - new shots come to replace the shot ... and in the end they also end up with a wall.

        I think that under such conditions of punishment as ours, corruption in China would have increased several times.
      2. hohol95
        hohol95 5 September 2018 15: 09
        0
        It turns out, as in the old tales of Southeast Asia -

        Now - YOU A DRAGON!
        A fairy tale is a lie and a hint in it ...
    4. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 September 2018 15: 53
      +2
      The selection of personnel based on the criterion of personal loyalty does not imply that the “devotee” has any other necessary qualities, including the ability to “do business”.
  6. Jingibi
    Jingibi 5 September 2018 06: 37
    +23
    Indeed, in this case, Navalny himself is not important, as, I apologize, the information carrier. It is important that once again the nepotism of power is publicly and openly shown. It's a shame, comrades!
  7. vladcub
    vladcub 5 September 2018 06: 38
    +9
    Alexander, Roman, well done, the snide article turned out. Regarding your question: "whether they typed it according to the announcement, or through pull", and I supplement the question: "if according to the announcement, who is the smart guy who gave it? In EACH I repeat in EVERY department there were, are and will be:" bugs " that a hole is drilled in the budget, boobies of the king of heaven and hard workers who pull the whole cart.
    I think I will not be very mistaken if I say that: most of us are people formed under that system and therefore it is difficult for us to get along with the new order. Out of all my classmates, there were 11 people in the class, only one got a job under the new system (3 car services, a two-story house), and everything else ..
    1. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 5 September 2018 07: 31
      -8
      And for everyone else, what was not enough for this?
      1. AUL
        AUL 5 September 2018 12: 09
        +10
        Maybe conscience?
        1. FANTOM-72
          FANTOM-72 5 September 2018 15: 18
          -10
          What does conscience have to do with it? We had to study, then plow for 18-20 hours a day without days off and holidays of 5-8 years. Risking sometimes the whole turn. And do not sit out at uncle at best 140 hours a month, and then blame the president and the state for the computer and under a glass and cry that there is no money. And they would live with two car services and a house. There is no conscience, laziness, lack of knowledge, mind and thirst for freebies.
          1. kakvastam
            kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 04
            +7
            Another psychic was discovered, in a couple of words he rolled out the whole fate of a person in half a page!
            There are different options, including the test-governor, or the correct nationality for the region - but who knows what. Although a lack of conscience really helps a lot.
            And labels are not necessary to hang a lot of mind, "there is laziness, lack of knowledge, intelligence and thirst for freebies" also help a lot.
            1. FANTOM-72
              FANTOM-72 6 September 2018 02: 22
              -5
              During the test, the governor does not plow for days. Despite the fact that the envious loafers of the neighbors are trying in every possible way to mischief, with which they are inept and also lazy. I repeat again. It has nothing to do with conscience. Do you even know how to read? Read carefully. Whoever wants and knows how, he will earn a decent life for his family. Whoever does not want and is not able, he whines that the state owes him something and begs for a pension earlier and more. I don’t need a pension at all.
          2. twviewer
            twviewer 5 September 2018 17: 10
            +2
            so if, in conscience, successful inspections are carried out, conscience is judged, conscience will have to be accumulated in the north.
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 5 September 2018 17: 23
              +3
              otherwise what are we selling resources and not successes to the west?
              1. twviewer
                twviewer 5 September 2018 17: 58
                +4
                At the same time, I’ll remind you of pension reform, which is not really a reform, because it does not fundamentally change anything, it only increases the retirement age.
                We will have 12 million more evil young unemployed, the hope and support of the regime laughing if, as Putin says, pre-pensioners from the arbitrariness of employers will protect, because jobs will not appear out of nowhere.
    2. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 7 September 2018 23: 50
      0
      from where they are recruiting? - Well, maybe not by advertisement anyway ...- I heard when they created a new department at the Moscow Region and headed, it’s kind of like his namesake ... or daughter ....
  8. 2329 Carpenter
    2329 Carpenter 5 September 2018 06: 46
    -10
    The meaning of the placement of articles on this resource?
    Everyone vote for the fellow-Navalny in the next election?
    Or "how are things in Russia? - They steal ..." - to open another America here for everyone?
    Or a rare natural phenomenon - "sratch" on 100500 posts to inflate your cheeks?
    Well, what ... In any case - good luck, guys ..
    1. pormezan
      pormezan 5 September 2018 10: 08
      +5
      Thanks for the best wishes. The meaning is exactly the same as a hundred years ago, before the revolution, the communists went to the people and taught them to read and write, so that the people themselves could receive information from various sources and ponder it. That would not go to the local priest with questions, but include logic and distinguish lies and stupidity from the truth. And then people will be able to draw the correct conclusions and calculate the cause-and-effect relationships. And the people will question Putin's "postulate" about the need to raise the retirement age.
    2. AA17
      AA17 5 September 2018 11: 37
      +19
      Dear, Carpenter 2329 (Vasya). How would it be easier for you to explain the meaning of this article. It seems that the budget of the Russian state is the general conditional people's money. The President says: there is not enough money from the budget to pay pensions (or will not be enough in 7-8 years), so we are raising the retirement age. And on the other hand, there are unjustified expenses in the Rosgvardia according to this article. In difficult days in the state, the entire people, regardless of their positions and class affiliation, are obliged to equally endure "all the hardships and hardships ...." of dashing times. The Russian "elite" should be an example in this for the rest of the citizens of Russia. Get rich together with the people and feel need with the people. For they are the "best". In fact, we see fraud (speaking tolerantly), if it's true. This is not good.
      P.S. In some circles, theft "from the common fund" is called ratism. "Rats" are severely punished.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 5 September 2018 15: 42
        -9
        You first tidied up the situation in Syria, then figure out how to import substitution, how not to completely ruin the country, how to protect it from terrorist attacks .. how to raise industry, and to provide people with social networks at least a little bit! Then we’ll see how you and your people will bear all the hardships at the same level! I mean that the higher the rank and salary, the higher the responsibility! You sit Vasya and drink a beer on the sofa, and the President of Syria has sanctions in his head ... and NATO with amers on the threshold!
        1. kakvastam
          kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 06
          +1
          Quote: igorka357
          I mean, the higher the rank and salary, the higher the responsibility

          Judging by this phrase, on the forum you registered in infancy ...
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 6 September 2018 01: 01
          -6
          igorka357
          "You first settled the situation in Syria ..."
          And we didn't "taxied"
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 6 September 2018 09: 28
            -2
            You are the widows and children of the victims, Full-time and publicly say, expert sofa.
        3. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 6 September 2018 06: 08
          0
          Quote: igorka357
          the president of Syria in his head, sanctions .. and NATO with amers on the doorstep

          The president, like Brezhnev, has only ratings in his head, distribution of awards, trips to ceremonial openings and interviews with governors who report to him about unprecedented successes.
          Stayed GDP in power. As a sniper, staying 3 days in one position - he lost his vigilance.
        4. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 7 September 2018 23: 54
          +1
          none of the above in the first 4 lines and beyond the horizon is visible :) because sound is not visible, only audible :)
  9. raw174
    raw174 5 September 2018 06: 52
    +13
    Here everyone says that the oligarchs (top managers, ministers, etc.) robbed the country, and I recently broke a trailer with crushed stone on the road, unhooked it by lifting it with a jack (single-axle trailer), while driving for spare parts, it took 20-30 minutes to lock the jack ! It was on the highway at night! The trailer was in a cuvette (I lowered it so that no one crashed)! Somewhere they steal something that I never saw and would not see, but here specifically, some kind of (mat mat mat) my jack cn ... yo! I came to the conclusion that in Russia everyone was stealing and dragged a pack of paper from work.
    And as for the purchases, I’m sure that they will carry out an audit, I don’t think that they will find serious violations, they will shut down the clerk (the employee who is placing orders) a fine of 50 thousand and everyone will calm down.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 5 September 2018 08: 50
      +2
      Quote: raw174
      I came to the conclusion that in Russia everyone is stealing

      And not only in Russia. There is a proverb in the army: "There are no thieves in the army, but there are gouges who store their belongings incorrectly."
      Okay? Yes, they steal, but how not to steal, if the initial capital is stolen? The thief doesn’t steal sin from a thief. Well, the fact that the jack was stolen - I sympathize, however, the habit is to drag everything that lies badly ...
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 5 September 2018 10: 42
      +6
      In my hostel, a cauldron with boiling soup from the stove was stolen with undercooked. It was not five minutes, the cabbage cut went. And then the ownerless jack crying
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 5 September 2018 11: 51
      +7
      Quote: raw174
      stole the jack! It was on the highway at night! The trailer was in a ditch

      You better rejoice that the trailer is not pulled. laughing
    4. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 09
      +2
      The trouble is not that they steal, but that society rather approves of the thief, believing that he "knows how to live."
    5. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 6 September 2018 06: 13
      +3
      Quote: raw174
      I came to the conclusion that in Russia everyone was stealing and dragged a pack of paper from work.

      Terrible revenge turned out ...
      But I wonder how much you need to steal in order to remain an honest person until the end of your life?
  10. Fungus
    Fungus 5 September 2018 06: 52
    -11
    They stole and will always steal. Under any authority. Well, such a nature among people who have reached the feeding trough. The bulk thief himself. If he would have stolen at the feeding trough on a large scale.
    1. milling machine
      milling machine 5 September 2018 07: 07
      +14
      Quote: Fungus
      They stole and will always steal. Under any authority. Well, such a nature among people who have reached the feeding trough. The bulk thief himself. If he would have stolen at the feeding trough on a large scale.

      Oops, the Kremlin Boots reached out.
      You know the difference between good power and bad.
      Not in mistakes (everyone is mistaken) but in reaction to them.
      In normal countries, if some official is caught in corruption, then they conduct an investigation, and do not say "they steal everywhere."
      By your logic, it is possible to justify the murder and "kill everywhere."
      1. raw174
        raw174 5 September 2018 07: 38
        +6
        Quote: frezer
        You know the difference between good power and bad.

        That good government is wise but fabulous Goodwin. Power, she was not sent to us from Alphacentaurus, she came from our own people, from those who stole my jack (see my post above). "kremlebot" from Kazakhstan is right, I think. This does not mean that nothing needs to be done, this is just a statement of facts.
      2. Fungus
        Fungus 5 September 2018 08: 44
        -4
        In normal countries, they steal no less. And even more ...
        1. Ivan staryi
          Ivan staryi 5 September 2018 08: 53
          +7
          In "normal" countries this is no longer stealing, but "lobbying"! bully
        2. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 6 September 2018 01: 03
          +1
          In normal countries, the level of salaries and pensions is many times higher.
          1. raw174
            raw174 6 September 2018 07: 21
            -1
            Quote: Beringovsky
            In normal countries, the level of salaries and pensions is many times higher.

            There the grass is greener and the trees are thicker ...
    2. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 5 September 2018 07: 45
      -4
      In vain you, Fungus, so here you are fungus laughing winked
      Here all such gathered - clean hands, warm hearts and cold heads. Especially the latter. The last romance of the revolution with rifles with bayonets, and in vests on the chest torn ...
      You’ll throw it with manual bonbs - you’ll cry later, and choose the cons from yourself, like that wolf spines in Wait a minute.
      crying
      1. A good one
        A good one 5 September 2018 08: 44
        +7
        And what, cons decorate a man, in this case I can’t say anything bad about you.
    3. Boris55
      Boris55 5 September 2018 08: 56
      +2
      Quote: Fungus
      They stole and will always steal. Under any authority.

      Not true! Are you stealing from your children? I think the opposite. So if we are for the state just a resource for profit, then our attitude to it is appropriate. In artels, monofactures, where the initial capital was common - they did not steal. Everyone, from a simple worker to a manager, worked for a common cause, for their future and the future of their children.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 5 September 2018 10: 47
        0
        It’s just that initially the common capital at some point becomes uncommon, for some reason. Then they start to steal
    4. pormezan
      pormezan 5 September 2018 10: 10
      +2
      That is, on this basis it is necessary to forgive theft and not fight it?
    5. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 14
      +1
      Please decipher the meaning of your message.
      Do you think that it is high time to remove from the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation the corpus delicti "theft" as outdated and irrelevant?
  11. 3vs
    3vs 5 September 2018 06: 55
    +16
    Yes, nothing will happen to anyone!
    They don’t leave their own with us.
    The system is rotten through and through!

    One example, I'm trying to help a person - Vadim Ostapov, a driver from the Omsk outback,
    whom, for free, he drove his fellow villagers who really needed it to Omsk, along the way he drove along with the workers of his wife to her bakery in Omsk, landed in Omsk at the bus station.
    So the local carrier set a traffic cop on him and a couple of frauds and a man were punished with heavy fines.
    Vadim began to assert his rights, so now they took up his wife. This tramp has been going on for a year now,
    a positive result, it seems not expected.
    The bailiffs and judges were tyranny, now the acting prosecutor of the Omsk region.

    Excerpts from the letter:
    "Hello Vasily! Then I received the answer of our regional prosecutor to the deputy request of Zhirinovsky (the second one already). In general, nothing new, they say, everything is correct and everything is according to the law ... But there is one thing. The prosecutor writes: -" V. Ostapov currently continues to carry passengers for a fee. At the same time, in order to evade the obligation to obtain a license and participate in competitive procedures, this person, under the guise of a passenger taxi, uses a bus converted by reducing passenger seats. "... All this is a lie. I have not translated anyone since the time when the Gazelle was taken away (GAITS regularly stop and check me, and even if I am taking my Tanya, they are always interested in who it is and if I take money ... not a single protocol on this there is no reason, following their logic and there are no violations), I did not "re-equip" anything and this old eight-seat Ford from the factory (the head of the traffic police of our area put it on record personally and checked everything himself), well, if the prosecutor says that I am violating the law and he knows why he does not take any prosecutorial measures? So it turns out he (the prosecutor) promotes the commission of an offense "in order to evade the obligation to obtain a license" and illegally "under the guise of a passenger taxi, a bus converted by reducing passenger seats is used .." In addition, with this answer, this prosecutor misleads the official (Zhirinovsky) by communicating deliberately false information. In general, insanity is growing stronger. One should not be surprised at this lie ...

    As they say, it would be funny if it were not so sad ... In general, Goodbye, Vasily, thank you FOR EVERYTHING! "

    Ostapov Vadim

    [email protected]

    Documents with the request of V.V. Zhirinovsky and the answer to this request the prosecutor of the Omsk region can be viewed at:

    https://yadi.sk/d/HuXphCdR3ajsfX

    https://www.change.org/p/ludi-ne-dadim-v-obidu-chestnogo-cheloveka/u/23209630

    And you say!
    1. raw174
      raw174 5 September 2018 07: 46
      -1
      Quote: 3vs
      because he drove free his fellow villagers who really need it to Omsk, along the way he drove along with the workers of his wife to her bakery in Omsk, landed in Omsk at the bus station.
      So the local carrier set a traffic cop on him and a couple of frauds and a man were punished with heavy fines.

      You can scold me, but from the point of view of the law, the carrier is right. This is his (carrier's) business, I do not think that ATP serving rural areas can be very profitable, we have them subsidized from the local budget 1-1,5 million a year. Your sufferer takes away the carrier's bread, perhaps not out of selfish motives, but out of the kindness of his soul, but this does not change the essence. In principle, in such cases, usually everything ends with fines and the termination of ILLEGAL transportation, your "ward" apparently decided to prove his case, but he is wrong ...
      1. 3vs
        3vs 5 September 2018 08: 10
        +8
        "You can scold me, but from the point of view of the law, the carrier is right. This is his (carrier's) business, I do not think that the ATP serving rural areas can be very profitable."
        And I will scold, of course!
        And you know that Vadim took up the transportation of those in need for free, grandmothers, on business in Omsk, pregnant girls to the clinic due to the fact that the local transport in the villages was covered by "optimizing costs", and everyone is offered to walk five kilometers on foot, if not more to the track in winter and autumn and in the heat ...
        A man drove his wife’s employees to work with all the paperwork, even a contract was signed with the local administration for the provision of free coupons to those in need.
        The man decided to do a good deed at the request of his son. So I did it. Local transport no longer runs, you can’t run into a taxi to Omsk, who was ill ?!
        And that, a man is now without work, the wife of the worker ran away, she works alone.
        I wrote to everyone who can, help a person, no-thing, from the state. response bodies, the rest do not answer letters, someone is not our competence!
        It remains for Donald Trump to write something to infringe on our officials their real estate and accounts abroad ...
        1. raw174
          raw174 5 September 2018 08: 27
          +7
          Quote: 3vs
          And you know that Vadim took up the transportation of those in need for free, grandmothers, on business in Omsk, pregnant girls to the clinic due to the fact that local transport in the villages was covered by "optimizing costs"

          I don’t know, of course, you just mentioned it ... Then it’s another matter, it seems that a conflict with the carrier (ATP) should not arise, at first glance ... But since "the stars are lit, then someone needs it."
          We had a similar situation, the route to a separate village (about 30 km from the regional center) was canceled, the issue was resolved after a collective appeal of the villagers to a State Duma deputy from our district. he was handed a letter with signatures, the activists spoke at the meeting, he made decisions with the head of the district, with the head of the ATP, the route was restored. Along the way, the deputy was "promoted" for financial assistance in the repair of the school (something about half a million rubles). We turned to the leaders of the Duma factions, but it did not help either, there are replies, you need to go to those who are from the "land", whom you directly choose. This is about the route, but about your ward, in such cases you need to try on, he will be wrong by law, because he is not a carrier and should not have been involved in transportation.
          Quote: 3vs
          The man decided to do a good deed at the request of his son.

          The old woman Shapoklyak also said: "He who helps people is wasting his time, you cannot become famous for good deeds." It is necessary to do according to the law, even good deeds.
          And the fact that you are helping such simpletons, who, not by malicious intent, get drunk on their very eyebrows, is a worthy deed.
          1. 3vs
            3vs 5 September 2018 08: 41
            +3
            The situation is commonplace, Vadim stopped at a bus station stop, and the local carrier believes that this is his property, set bandits and local taxi drivers on a peasant,
            and beat him and punctured the tires ...
            Vadim is a man with character, sent this friend on, well, and received support in the fight against himself and
            traffic cops and judges and bailiffs, now and acting the prosecutor ...

            "And the fact that you are helping such simpletons who, not with malicious intent, plunge down to their very eyebrows, is a worthy act."
            As Putin once said about the dead sailors of the Kursk, "I want to howl,"
            so I want to howl that I can’t help a person in our country,
            good is punishable in our country, and if a person is taken to court, it is practically impossible to defend one's honor and dignity!
            1. raw174
              raw174 5 September 2018 08: 55
              +6
              Quote: 3vs
              Vadim stopped at the bus station, and the local carrier believes that this is his property

              We have it, the territory of the bus station is the property of the ATP, the passage there is closed, there are signs and private traders, of whom there are many, stop outside the station.
              1. 3vs
                3vs 5 September 2018 09: 07
                +1
                "ATP property" yes, so Vadim stayed where taxi drivers are, but not the property of a private carrier who arranged the whole thing!
                1. Imobile
                  Imobile 5 September 2018 22: 46
                  +2
                  Yes, and passengers are also the property of ATP ...
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 5 September 2018 13: 48
                +3
                Does that go for free and you can’t give anyone a lift?
                Quote: raw174
                Your sufferer selects the carrier’s bread, perhaps not out of self-interest

                The next time, picking up the sauce, remember that you take the bread from the carrier, plant it 20 meters from the nearest stop. Let the business pick up. request
                1. raw174
                  raw174 5 September 2018 14: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Does that go for free and you can’t give anyone a lift?

                  Drive, of course, but for free, otherwise illegal business will succeed. I think in the situation described by our interlocutor, there are details that we do not know about, as a matter of fact, there is no corpus delicti in the free transportation of passengers by personal transport (or with the consent of the owner). Since it came to assault, it means money is involved ... maybe the transportation is not so free, otherwise why go into conflict and endure for the sake of thanks? And where are those villagers transported for free? thanks and scattered? Much is not clear. Or maybe the essence of the conflict is different, but transportation is an excuse ...
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 5 September 2018 14: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: 3vs
                    The prosecutor writes: - "V. Ostapov is currently continuing to carry passengers for a fee.

                    Quote: 3vs
                    if the prosecutor says that I am breaking the law and he knows this, then why is he not taking any prosecutorial measures?

                    This burden can endlessly stretch.
                    Quote: raw174
                    And where are those villagers transported for free? thanks and scattered?

                    The thing is clear that it is dark. What can these villagers do?
                    1. 3vs
                      3vs 5 September 2018 15: 08
                      +4
                      And the villagers, unfortunately, as it is often the case with us, did not say a word for a person.
              3. kakvastam
                kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 30
                +2
                The territory of the bus station is the property of ATP
                Yah? Not even leased? I doubt it.
                1. raw174
                  raw174 6 September 2018 07: 24
                  -1
                  Quote: kakvastam
                  Yah? Not even leased?

                  We bought the building from the municipality for a long time, the building is old, small, the countryside and the municipality it is a ballast.
      2. Horon
        Horon 5 September 2018 15: 31
        +5
        If he did it for free, then he does not fall under the criterion of illegal passenger traffic. That’s what you need to push. And according to your logic, it turns out that even transporting your relatives may seem illegal to someone.
      3. kakvastam
        kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 26
        +2
        Nobody forbids free transportation, just certain requirements are set for mass transportation, for example, in terms of security.
    2. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 September 2018 16: 27
      +2
      This is a very old story, did not know that it still stretches ...
      1. 3vs
        3vs 5 September 2018 16: 34
        +1
        Yes, history has been going on for a year!
        You can sign a petition if you agree with me.
        I'm afraid it will be closed soon after a year of publication.
        If anyone has lawyers willing to help Vadim Ostapov, contact him.
        And here is the link to the petition:
        https://www.change.org/p/ludi-ne-dadim-v-obidu-chestnogo-cheloveka
  12. oracul
    oracul 5 September 2018 07: 36
    -3
    Far from thinking to defend Zolotov - most likely not everything is good in his department and it is necessary to restore order. So after all, order must be restored in the country as a whole. Suffice it to recall those voiced by Golikova, when she was the head of the Accounts Chamber, much more multibillion-dollar losses of the state in the field of procurement. So Navalny in his delights is not very original, but the fact that he hit the Russian Guard with a drill makes one think. The structure is huge, but, firstly, it is still in its infancy, and secondly, I think it is not a secret that the internal troops, which have become one of the components of the Russian Guard, have never been famous for either special discipline or special order. And it really takes time and tremendous efforts to transform the National Guard into the structure that will fully meet the goals and objectives set for it, first of all, in the fight against terrorism and preventing the swing of the state. Therefore, Roman Skomorokhov, who attacked Rogers yesterday for lack of alignment and inconsistency in views, would not hurt to take a more thoughtful approach to the assessments and judgments of Navalny and his campaign. The crux of the problem is not in Zolotov and not those Rosguards officials who lightly manage budget funds, but in that wild market, which was created on a capitalist basis with the active "creative role" of the government both before and under Medvedev. And billions of Interior Ministry Colonel Zakharchenko are much more weighty and dangerous than in Zolotov's department. Or $ 100 million, and now this is about 7 billion rubles, which the billionaire Usmanov (and I will say special thanks to him for what he does for fencing and supporting rhythmic gymnastics) allocated as assistance to the Uzbek football club "Pakhtakor", this money is not earned in Russia. And Abramovich with his huge infusions into the English “Chelsea”, and Rybolovlev, and Prokhorov, and Zingarevich and the list goes on. Is the approach of "Pravdist" Navalny too selective? No, of course not! Its goal is state power and its personal bearers.
    1. Russia
      Russia 5 September 2018 08: 26
      +4
      I completely agree with you hi I just want to add that this attack will be for Navalny a security certificate and a red rag, they say the revenge for my unauthorized rallies. Although he is now sitting out for his art, he’s done a throw before the election.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 18: 23
      +2
      Quote: oracul
      It is enough to recall the voices voiced by Golikova, when she was the head of the Accounts Chamber, where the state’s much more multibillion-dollar losses are in the procurement sector.

      it is not necessary to recall the current, but at least try to properly understand the issue !!! wink yes wassat wassat wassat

      In 2017, the Audit Chamber revealed financial irregularities in the amount of 1,865 trillion rubles, with 40% of these violations committed by the state corporation Roskomos. This was told by the head of the Accounts Chamber Alexei Kudrin, according to Interfax.

      “The total amount of identified violations, deficiencies in revenues and use of funds amounted to 1 trillion 865 billion (rubles),” Kudrin said during a plenary meeting in the State Duma, where he made an annual report on the work of the joint venture. According to him, this amount is two times more than the Accounts Chamber revealed in 2016, and three and a half times more than in 2015.

      “I’ll say right away that 760 billion rubles. of this amount, these are violations of accounting at Roskosmos, ”Kudrin explained, noting that as a result of inspections conducted by the department, response measures were taken, including criminal cases were opened.

      Kudrin also said that more than 43% of the total amount of violations amounted to violations in the field of accounting, and 32% - violations committed in the formation and execution of budgets. He also promised State Duma deputies that the Accounts Chamber would continue to analyze and correct the violations committed in the field of accounting, even though they were "not so significant."

      www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5b2a3ad99a7947bec89f3828

      and in the sequel ..........

      The volume of detected violations in the budget system doubled last year: in 2017, a state audit revealed violations of 1,87 trillion rubles. (in 2016, this figure amounted to 965,8 billion rubles.), according to the annual report of the Accounts Chamber (entered RBC), which the auditors prepared on the eve of the change of department head.

      For comparison: the expenditures of the budget system (the federal budget plus the budgets of the regions and extra-budgetary funds) in 2017 amounted to 32,4 trillion rubles, according to the Treasury. Thus, an amount equivalent to 5,8% of all government spending was spent with violations. The number of violations themselves is also growing - from 3,8 thousand in 2016 to 6,5 thousand.

      At the same time the amount of budget funds "with signs of misuse or inefficient use" (corruption or theft may be part of such violations) amounted to about 40 billion rubles, or 2% of the total amount of financial violations, follows from the data of the Accounts Chamber.




      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/economics/16/05/2018/5afb0aa29a79474409677396
  13. Snail N9
    Snail N9 5 September 2018 07: 42
    +4
    .
    ..do not take into account a number of indicators used in concluding government contracts: seasonality of procurement, country of origin of goods, small piece packaging certain types of food (juice, oil), costs associated with the cost of transportation costs for delivery goods to the designated delivery points, expenses associated with treasury support of the contract, examination food the cost of packaging, packaging, labeling, loading and unloading".

    So this is a standard scheme for increasing the cost of any product for a subsequent "rollback", when one "operation" is divided into several, separately calculated and paid ... yes
  14. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 5 September 2018 08: 31
    +1
    . Mr. Zolotov takes off the cream earned over the years of immaculate service, Mr. Navalny wants to do this once.

    Gold words. If Navalny can convict a crook, then we will all be happy. But against the background of his schools of preferences, he cannot get from us
  15. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 5 September 2018 08: 51
    +7
    Rosguards will throw some money, and the initial will be arrested again !!! wassat We have it as a show-arrest of a bulk man on the fact of his life on our planet !!!
  16. Tsoy
    Tsoy 5 September 2018 08: 54
    +7
    The authors have a very contradictory attitude to Navalny. From total rejection in connection with numerous fakes that were periodically exposed during the presidential campaign, to “but there’s something in it,” even by half. And Mr. Pravdoekatel has raked us more than once. Fact.


    And what did someone expose Navalny except for NTV? Please give a link to exposing fakes from him. Just wondering where he lied and when he raked.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 18: 37
      -3
      Quote: Choi
      The authors have a very contradictory attitude to Navalny. From total rejection in connection with numerous fakes that were periodically exposed during the presidential campaign, to “but there’s something in it,” even by half. And Mr. Pravdoekatel has raked us more than once. Fact.


      And what did someone expose Navalny except for NTV? Please give a link to exposing fakes from him. Just wondering where he lied and when he raked.


      Swiss prosecutors put Navalny a liar
      http://txapela.ru/blogs/antiusa/shveycarskaya-prokuratura-vystavila-navalnogo-lzhecom/

      How Navalny is lying: analysis of cases from FBK “investigation”
      https://noteru.com/post/view/17042
  17. Altona
    Altona 5 September 2018 08: 58
    +3
    Quote: oracul
    Far from the idea of ​​defending Zolotov - most likely not everything is good in his department and it is necessary to restore order. So, in general, order must also be restored in the country. It is enough to recall the voices voiced by Golikova, when she was the head of the Accounts Chamber, where the state’s much more multibillion-dollar losses are in the procurement sector.

    ------------------------
    Given the fact that this situation is widespread, it turns out that some are punished for theft, while others offer offshore companies. It smacks of double morality. If we eradicate the negative facts in the spending of state money, then we must approach everyone with a uniform measure, and this means we must make the government truly popular.
  18. Mikhail Strigin
    Mikhail Strigin 5 September 2018 09: 08
    +2
    Nah yes. Enchanting. No, I can understand everything - but such a failure ?!
    Not only is Navalny lying in his "investigation" and actually comparing one year - purchases for 2018 - 20.12.2017/11.07.2018/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, but he also compares winter and summer - two different seasons, prices between which rise several times.
    And after all, there was a real opportunity to ask a sharp question - why increased purchase prices are higher than increased prices according to the Federal State Statistics Service (although this is not an indicator at all). But then it will not be possible to say that they stole a billion! Not solid!
    This is our opposition with its arguments - manipulation, populism and complete inadequacy. But people hawala.
    No, you can not be afraid of Putin!
    1. 3vs
      3vs 5 September 2018 09: 30
      +11
      Mikhail, you’ve done well that you noticed the difference in dates - purchases for 2018 year - 20.12.2017 and 11.07.2018,
      just note that in the 11.07.2018 season fresh cabbage costs 46,78 p. per kg
      And not in season - 20.12.2017 out of season fresh cabbage costs 14,96 p. per kg.!
      In off season, cabbage costs THREE TIMES CHEAPER than in season!
      Here is the plot!
      https://youtu.be/0R71sw7h428

      The article itself:
      https://navalny.com/p/5928/

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      2. Sofievka
        Sofievka 5 September 2018 15: 59
        -1
        Just in July, cabbage of early and medium-sized varieties is harvested, the price is always higher than that of late varieties, they are also the most massive in area and yield, so the price in July will be higher than December
      3. Beholder
        Beholder 5 September 2018 16: 22
        0
        You are a bit mistaken, excuse me: the season for picking cabbage is from August to frost. Those. in December cabbage is higher than the roof in rural areas and they try to get rid of it if there are no equipped storage facilities.
        But in June, only certain varieties of early cabbage - the price is more expensive, as with young potatoes and early cherries, and more ....
        1. 3vs
          3vs 5 September 2018 17: 06
          +2
          Prices for white cabbage in Russia in 2018 year, data for February
          http://ab-centre.ru/news/ceny-na-belokochannuyu-kapustu-v-rossii-v-2018-godu-dannye-na-fevral


          Specialists of the Expert and Analytical Center for Agribusiness "AB-Center" www.ab-centre.ru have prepared another weekly survey of the Russian potato and vegetable market. The review is published on the AB-Center website in the database under the link Database. Potatoes and vegetables. An extended service with monitoring of prices for potatoes and vegetables is presented at the link - Prices for potatoes and vegetables. Below are some excerpts from the study.

          Wholesale prices for cabbage in Russia in 2018, data for February
          Seasonal growth in prices for cabbage in February 2018 continued. The average wholesale prices (purchase price in 20 tons) for white cabbage in Russia at the wholesale level as of February 23 were at the level of 8,4 RUB / kg. This is by 3,7% (by 0,3 RUB / kg) more than a week ago and by 16,8% (by 1,2 RUB / kg) higher than the level of prices a month ago. For three months, the average wholesale prices for cabbage in the Russian Federation strengthened by 30,0%.



          Important! The sample of average wholesale prices here mainly relies on the regions with the highest level of supply (at the same time, both producer and consumer regions are involved in the sample). When calculating average prices, data on the Far Eastern Federal District are not taken into account.

          As for small wholesale prices (price for the volume of purchases in 30 kg), then at the wholesale centers of Moscow, they averaged 12,5 RUB / kg. The average price range ranged from 11,0 to 14,0 RUB / kg. Over the week, wholesale prices for this type of vegetable in the capital remained virtually unchanged, over the month - increased by 19,0%, in three months - increased by 13,6%.



          Photo source: from the archives of CJSC "New Age of Agrotechnology" (the largest supplier of vegetable netting to Russia, Tian Zhen trademark)

          At the wholesale bases of Rostov-on-Don, in the wholesale link, cabbage was sold on average at 11,0 RUB / kg. for the week and month, the indicators have not changed. For three months, prices for cabbage rose by 22,0%.

          In the Krasnodar Territory, as of the monitoring date, the wholesale price of white cabbage amounted to 11,5 RUB / kg, which is 4,2% lower than the level of prices a week ago. For the month, prices rose by 15,0%, for three months - by 35,3%.

          Retail prices for cabbage in 2018 year, data for February
          Important! The dynamics of retail prices is presented in this section as an indicator of market trends. The average sales prices for Russia are displayed (Rosstat data). Depending on the region (the purchasing power of the population in a particular region of the Russian Federation, the cost of a unit of retail space on the shelves of retail chains, the distance from the growing regions and logistics centers), the distribution channel (food markets, retail chains of economy class, premium class), preparedness goods for sale, prices can vary greatly.

          The average retail prices for white cabbage in Russia, as of February 26, were at 18,91 RUB / kg. During the week, prices rose by 2,0%, during the month - by 7,8%. For three months, price increases amounted to 19,4%.



          At the lowest levels, retail prices for cabbage were in the Volga Federal District - 15,98 RUB / kg. Prices were somewhat higher in the Siberian Federal District - 18,30 RUB / kg, the Central Federal District - 18,33 RUB / kg, the Ural Federal District - 18,40 RUB / kg, the Southern Federal District - 18,94 RUB / kg.

          In the North Caucasus Federal District, average retail prices for cabbage, as of the monitoring date, were 19,01 RUB / kg, in the North-West Federal District - 19,31 RUB / kg.

          In the Far Eastern Federal District, prices were the highest - 41,45 RUB / kg.

          Source: Expert and Analytical Center for Agribusiness "AB-Center" www.ab-centre.ru. In case of partial or full use of materials, an active hyperlink to this article is required.
        2. Sofievka
          Sofievka 5 September 2018 19: 25
          +2
          In the Crimea, the late cut from the end of October to the end, "Friendship of peoples" from me 40 km and still wondering where they are going to get such a volume of products?
  19. Cananecat
    Cananecat 5 September 2018 09: 16
    +7
    Gypsy beats son caught stealing. - I beat you not because you stole, but because you were caught ...
    Surprising comments about traitors in the Russian Guard. What did they want, so that the subordinates would also meekly give them their share of their ration? As if Navalny were not scolded, but he keeps the system in good shape ... so let the rolls not relax. )))
  20. BAI
    BAI 5 September 2018 09: 18
    +1
    The authors cast a shadow on the wattle fence. If we look at the materials of Navalny (https://navalny.com/p/5928/), we will see that the Russian Guard has nothing to do with it. She fulfills the order of the Government. Can not fail to comply. Hitting Navalny - on Medvedev and the yoke environment. What the authors have - not a word. Navalny is simply joking over Rosguard in the course of the investigation.
  21. tank66
    tank66 5 September 2018 09: 22
    +1
    Bulk - mongrel on a leash. Lead - from the USA. The mongrel barks at the one whom they bite. But, it so happens that in Russia, this female @ often barks in the right direction - on parasites sucking in one / conditionally / sting, nationwide juices ..
  22. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 5 September 2018 09: 28
    +3
    Roman, what do you think about the situation in Armyansk - is it not a topic for another article? hi So far, only Murid writes about what is happening there now.
  23. erased
    erased 5 September 2018 09: 28
    0
    Bulk one is pepper with import financing. But this does not mean that his data is bullshit. Just the ability to receive information from the owners and allows him to lay out accurate information (and sometimes inaccurate, if beneficial). And the fact that the entire system of state power of the Russian Federation is inherently corrupt is a trifle. Here, in general, everything is already a trifle.
  24. Peter Smith
    Peter Smith 5 September 2018 09: 36
    -1
    Quote: oracul
    Far from thinking to defend Zolotov - most likely not everything is good in his department and it is necessary to restore order. So after all, order must be restored in the country as a whole. Suffice it to recall those voiced by Golikova, when she was the head of the Accounts Chamber, much more multibillion-dollar losses of the state in the field of procurement. So Navalny in his delights is not very original, but the fact that he hit the Russian Guard with a drill makes one think. The structure is huge, but, firstly, it is still in its infancy, and secondly, I think it is not a secret that the internal troops, which have become one of the components of the Russian Guard, have never been famous for either special discipline or special order. And it really takes time and tremendous efforts to transform the National Guard into the structure that will fully meet the goals and objectives set for it, first of all, in the fight against terrorism and preventing the swing of the state. Therefore, Roman Skomorokhov, who attacked Rogers yesterday for lack of alignment and inconsistency in views, would not hurt to take a more thoughtful approach to the assessments and judgments of Navalny and his campaign. The crux of the problem is not in Zolotov and not those Rosguards officials who lightly manage budget funds, but in that wild market, which was created on a capitalist basis with the active "creative role" of the government both before and under Medvedev. And billions of Interior Ministry Colonel Zakharchenko are much more weighty and dangerous than in Zolotov's department. Or $ 100 million, and now this is about 7 billion rubles, which the billionaire Usmanov (and I will say special thanks to him for what he does for fencing and supporting rhythmic gymnastics) allocated as assistance to the Uzbek football club "Pakhtakor", this money is not earned in Russia. And Abramovich with his huge infusions into the English “Chelsea”, and Rybolovlev, and Prokhorov, and Zingarevich and the list goes on. Is the approach of "Pravdist" Navalny too selective? No, of course not! Its goal is state power and its personal bearers.

    1. Do not confuse the functions of the FSB and the Russian Guard
    2. Personal last the bearer of power was Nicholas II. Since then, either impostors or elected or appointed. So, as representatives of the authorities were elected, they can again be pushed back. The people will decide.
  25. Faceless
    Faceless 5 September 2018 09: 46
    -1
    I have a very negative attitude towards Navalny, but this article on VO is interesting. At the same time, a number of questions are hushed up by Navalny consciously, but the author could have overlooked. I'll try to fix it.

    1) Yes, indeed, the Federal Law of 05.04.2013 N 44-FZ "On the contract system in the field of procurement of goods, works, services to meet state and municipal needs" provides for the possibility, if there is an appropriate Order of the Government of the Russian Federation, to conclude a contract directly, without competitive procedures (from a single supplier) (clause 2, part 1 of article 93), moreover, justification of the price, essential conditions, as well as the inexpediency of using competitive methods is not required (part 3 of article 93).

    But this item did not appear yesterday. It existed in the previous Federal Law of July 21.07.2005, 94 No. XNUMX-FZ
    "On the placement of orders for the supply of goods, performance of work, provision of services for state and municipal needs" (clause 17.1, part 2 of article 55), which was introduced back in 2009. And everything has been working fine since those times, otherwise it would have been changed long ago. In addition, there are and have been a bunch of special rules that allow, for defense and security purposes, to avoid or restrict competitive procedures (forgive me, I won't retell everything with links - a separate article is needed). Food for Rosgvardia is not connected with security.
    Therefore, it is silly to speak of this case as a kind of "uniqueness".

    Plus, with Navalny, any of his illiteracy is determined solely by the theft of those in power. And then he himself is an angel, you might think.

    2) The order of the Government of the Russian Federation on the purchase of products from a single manufacturer dated December 2, 2017 No. 2686-r is not available in the public domain, and therefore, to discuss its contents is fortune-telling on coffee grounds.

    3) As a rule, any contract concluded in accordance with Part 1 of Art. 93 Federal Law of 05.04.2013 N 44-ФЗ (from a single supplier) has prices higher than similar contracts concluded as a result of competitive procedures (tender, auction, request for quotations, request for proposals). Why? - it is obvious. This is the ONLY non-competitive way to make purchases. The relevant article contains another 54 cases when competition can be avoided: from issues of water and electricity supply and natural monopolies, to the provision of teaching and tour services to specific individuals. And in each case, the price of the contract will be higher than if it were concluded through competitive procedures (if, of course, they are actually possible, and we are not talking, for example, about monopolies).
    If you look at the history since 2005 of the appearance of these exceptions of their principle of ensuring competition, then each of them is suffering and justified by acute and objective necessity. For example, all orders related to the provision of the 2018 FIFA and the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup were generally withdrawn from the Federal Law of 05.04.2013 No. 44-FZ (Clause 8, Part 2, Article 1, now - expired). Because the result then was clearly more important than the process.
    Spent. Done. Built. Provided.
    I agree that this approach is a significant stone in the Federal Law Garden of 05.04.2013/44/XNUMX N XNUMX-FZ, the effectiveness of its procedures and the soundness of the rules, but this is a different story outside the scope of this topic.

    What does Navalny do, and absolutely consciously.

    He compares prices within the framework of competitive and non-competitive procedures, a priori implying that wherever there is no competition - theft (Freud recalls that he also, however, had a different hypostasis everywhere). Apparently - from someone that hurts.

    This does not mean that there is no misappropriation in the field of public procurement - even the President spoke about this more than once in his message (in different years). But it’s so stupid to choose one example to denigrate the Russian Guard ... Are they all left without food? - then the question is "where is the money."
    I could understand howling if, for example, money were allocated for buildings: there is no money and there is no building either. And that - it is necessary to understand: what was allocated and who as considered. Here are more unanswered questions that Navalny has only one answer to - thieves. Apparently, he himself can not present a different picture of the world.
    1. Ivan staryi
      Ivan staryi 5 September 2018 10: 42
      +4
      A point in the law as well as the law itself appeared certainly not yesterday. But the provisions of paragraph 2 of Part 1 of Art. 93 44-ФЗ (or similar provisions in 94-ФЗ) in relation to food purchases for the Russian Guard or BB for the first time since 2005. Somehow 12 years coped with competitive methods. And what has changed now?
      1. Faceless
        Faceless 5 September 2018 14: 03
        +4
        There is no answer to your question in the format in which you put it. The question is not what prevented, the question is the reasons and the legitimacy of changes in regulation in this area. I'll start with the second. This was within the discretionary powers of the Government of the Russian Federation - yes, of course. And for what reasons, the Government of the Russian Federation decided to exercise these powers right now - alas, one can only guess.

        To pose the question, guided by the logic "it has worked since 2009, and it will also work for another 200 years" is stupid. This implies the thesis about the senselessness of modernization and development of legislation as such (why, if everything works anyway?). How and with what to respond to new challenges? - see the Cathedral Code of 1649? ..

        Among the advantages of the solution: ceteris paribus, the conclusion of a contract with a well-known and sole supplier always means greater stability and guarantees for the execution of the contract (since the Government of the Russian Federation did not choose the supplier from the ceiling: it means there were reasons and guarantees that its capacities would allow the purchase to be made); high speed of procurement (time spent on procedures). There are, of course, a number of other factors that you can guess about, no more.

        Purchasing from a single supplier will always (in practice) be more expensive than following the results of competitive procedures (if there is actual possibility of their implementation). It is always a given, although not legislatively fixed. There is only one conclusion: the changed situation required neglecting the price in favor of reliability and other factors.

        To explain any own misunderstanding solely by the propensity of the customer and the contractor to theft is paranoia (or deliberate provocation).

        I have no specific data about the reasons for this particular decision. But there are examples when the winner of the tender / auction / request for quotations, having signed the contract, did not fulfill his obligations - as much as you like. Yes, it can be included in the registry of unscrupulous suppliers. You can start to sue and try to recover losses.

        But this is not easier for the customer. The customer needs the contract subject to be fulfilled: the products are delivered, the building is built, the equipment is repaired. For those cases where the result is more important than ensuring the mythical principle of free competition and is provided at the level of law (!) The only non-competitive way to make purchases.

        It is possible (and most likely it was so) and here the problems with the execution of contracts in past periods finally forced to radically resolve this issue, with an eye to the result, and not to ensure the mythical principle.

        I will say more, a little wider. It is foolish to link "theft" only with a non-competitive method of purchasing. You might think that when conducting an electronic auction, there are fewer opportunities for abuse ... Believe me, the same, if not more). The question then needs to be raised not about the choice of the procedure, but about the proper fulfillment of obligations. And abuse is possible everywhere.

        The accents in Navalny's "investigation" are, as always, exclusively anti-state. and nothing sensible is offered in return. Since he was so smart, he would have written a paper on how to improve the contract system by reducing the corruption-generating factors in it. But why strain so hard when you can grab pieces of information, tie them with a harsh thread, call everyone thieves and shout about how bad everything is with us. From the mouth of the criminal Navalny, it is generally funny to hear speech about justice and theft)
        1. Ivan staryi
          Ivan staryi 5 September 2018 14: 42
          +4
          I don't need you to "trust" anything. I know perfectly well what you are writing about. hi Moreover, simply using Yandex, you can find several examples where officials were brought to real criminal liability for abuse in the purchase of food products for explosives, when such purchases were carried out by competitive methods at the district level. But all my previous experience tells me that the conclusion about the notorious effectiveness of such decisions of the Government is not true. As they say high-likly. what A 2-fold increase in the contract price for half a year deserves attention at least, as a result, an extra check will not hurt anyone, given the small price of the contracts.
          As for Navalny ... This gentleman is well versed in the legislation (well, or his team, which is more true), including in the manner in which various structures handle appeals. They prepare appeals very carefully and carefully. But at the same time, he does not always write them. On this specific fact - did not write. Again, excuse me, Hiley Likely bully , specifically in this case, he is not interested in any detailed proceedings. And, accordingly, this is the stuffing before the election.
      2. Faceless
        Faceless 5 September 2018 14: 17
        +3
        In fairness, I emphasize separately that there are a lot of questions to the so-called competitive methods established in the Federal Law On the contract system. First of all, to their effectiveness. I myself have been engaged in procurement for more than 6 years and I know what I'm talking about. The entire 44-FZ is aimed mainly at the correct observance of the process. But about the result, not a word, anywhere, even in the administrative responsibility provided for the customer for violations of 44-FZ. From the point of view of the law, it makes no difference whether he built a house or not. The main thing is to carry out the necessary procedures, send the necessary information to the registries, post everything on time on the site, etc. For example, if the customer has committed a violation - he has limited competition somewhere - then from the point of view of the law, it does not matter whether the subject of the contract is fulfilled or not. Whether the winner built the house or not, this does not legally affect the responsibility of the customer (in practice it happens differently).
        Therefore, I can easily assume that after another failure to fulfill the contract properly by some LLC "Horns and Hooves" patience in this matter snapped, and implemented uninterrupted supplies in the manner prescribed by the current law. Although, again, this is an assumption.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 5 September 2018 09: 52
    +4
    "A thief should be in jail!", "They will put you in jail, but don't steal!" - good phrases, correct ...
    In our being comes out "You steal, but a lot, Schaub will pay off, buy a reliable" roof "...
    Theft was, is and will be .... completely eradicated, it is doubtful.
    Sovereign servants must keep order, but after all, everything depends on the command that is given to them ... who can be sure that they were not "charged" -may this, but this should not be ???
    I have the impression that they "charged" the servicemen, but what about you?
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 5 September 2018 13: 06
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      In our being comes out "You steal, but a lot, Schaub will pay off, buy a reliable" roof "...
      Hasek described this situation in his "Schweik" hi
      At me you are listed as drowned while swimming. You should not have come back at all and caused us trouble with a double uniform. You have no idea which pig you planted in the battalion. Every part of your uniform is in our possession. On my company uniform availability lists, this uniform is listed as surplus. In a company, one set of uniforms is more. This I have already brought to the attention of the battalion. Now we will be sent a notice from the brigade that you have received a new outfit, and meanwhile the battalion in the list of outfit availability noted that there is an excess of one set. I know how this will end, because of this they can appoint an audit. And when it comes to such trifles, they will certainly come from the commissariat itself. That's when two thousand pairs of boots disappear, no one will be interested in this.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 September 2018 15: 34
        +3
        Stirbjorn (Michael) Today, 13:06
        Hasek described this situation in his "Schweik"

        Oh yes, "The Brave Soldier Schweik" ... a classic of the genre, such a sho on our reality, sho on the past, and you can project it into the future! However, where is it wrong?
        By the way, after Schweik, I just neighing with our soldier Ivan Chonkin .... all the same, the topic of the servants is closer to me than everything else !!! Nostalgia!
        Thank you soldier in the evening I will see one or the other !!! drinks
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 18: 57
      -2
      Quote: rocket757
      "A thief should be in jail!", "They will put you in jail, but don't steal!" - good phrases, correct ...
      In our being comes out "You steal, but a lot, Schaub will pay off, buy a reliable" roof "...

      bulk according to the second scheme, so he wouldn’t have to go into investigations very much !!! wink yes also false !!! laughing laughing laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 September 2018 20: 33
        +1
        Nikolay Grek (Nikolay) Today, 18:57
        bulk according to the second scheme, so he wouldn’t have to go into investigations very much !!! wink yes also false !!!

        Lies with a piece of truth, a method known for a long time.
        That is, some of our officials and tsar’s people are not clean at hand, of course.
        That sho these home-grown "fighters against corruption", they caught someone, well, only the case must be brought to the end ..... muddy the water and pull it aside, it's fi.
        There is no real business, he will be the glory of balabol! And it’s creeping into power somewhere, it’s doubly fi, fi.
        There are enough cunning ones there, bigger caliber.
  27. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 5 September 2018 10: 18
    -1
    I will remain a lawyer of the Russian Guard ... And what is wrong with the response of the Russian Guard and in general in these contracts?

    Maybe someone is not in the know, but the Druzhba Narodov agro-industrial complex is not just an intermediary, but a producer of agricultural products, and the largest one in Crimea. And Crimea now continues to remain in a transport blockade, for large-capacity trucks, they have not yet been allowed across the bridge in order not to create traffic jams for tourists, and the ferry pays 40 per truck ...

    In addition, everyone knows the problem with water in the Crimea and this could not but affect agricultural products ...

    The video compares products from the Stavropol Territory purchased earlier with products from the Crimea, and naturally the Crimean one will be more expensive, and it is difficult for companies from the Crimea to compete on the Russian market, since the costs are elementary. The government supported the Crimean enterprise, and private, but Russian citizens work there and taxes are paid at the expense of this enterprise, which means it also contains local hospitals and schools and local budgets ... Is that bad? Moreover, these purchases are supposed for 2017 and 2018, and not forever ...

    Yes, the support of the Druzhba Narodov agro-industrial complex turned out to be more expensive than buying vegetables from the nearest suppliers, but what would have happened if it had not been there? How could this enterprise be able to pay off the loans and continue to work? Would they have survived without state support and without reducing people? I'm not sure...

    So what is corruption and where and what is stolen? The fact that they supported the largest agricultural enterprise in the Crimea? Or what can the Rosguard do not eat up? Everything is done in WHITE !!! Where and what is stolen here?

    I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE DECORATION OTHERWISE, the prices would be the same, but the supplier would be asked for a rollback of 10% or 20%, and there would be a sea who wants it, now in Russia there is enough overproduction of pork and chicken and vegetables ... And with such a scheme on paper, everything would be so smooth that the mosquito of the nose would not be undermined and it would not be necessary to bother with the Crimean agricultural enterprise ...

    MY OPINION - there is no corruption here, it is just direct support of the largest agricultural complex in the Crimea "Druzhba Narodov". How else was the government supposed to support him in these conditions? Or maybe you don't need to support anyone at all, let everything fall apart? Do you know that it is even cheaper to buy vegetables and meat abroad? So maybe we will buy everything abroad for the National Guard and for the army and the navy? And in general, we will cancel the duties, let the imported ones be cheaper in our stores, right? And the fact that their farmers will be left without work - well, and to hell with them ?! And then with all the goods from clothes to cars ?! Should I do that too? It turns out cheaper. And the fact that their factories will collapse, well, it doesn't matter ...

    Just what are you going to buy, something cheap, if your city does not have work and salaries?

    And for some reason other countries do not. Try to sell something from agricultural to Europe, even Ukraine with its meager costs is not profitable, and the quotas are such that they choose them back in January and that they still have an association with the EU signed.

    In general, not everything is as simple as it seems at first glance, and Navalny is just a fool and a corrupt skin. Better to remove the video about his chief of staff - Volkov, where did he get the money for a house and for living in Luxembourg ...
    1. Faceless
      Faceless 5 September 2018 14: 05
      -2
      I agree with you completely. I am silent about the fact that someone can be called a thief only after a court verdict, and not another pseudo-investigation of a criminal who was himself convicted.
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 6 September 2018 12: 19
        0
        Bulk is struck by rights deprived of the right to vote? Or maybe the commercial office has other goals than making a profit? And the more profit the better for her. Maybe this is news for Medvedev? Or is corruption not the creation of special conditions for profit for individuals? Or maybe the profit from the commercial enterprise will go to the restoration of the Crimea, and not in a private pocket? It’s funny to read your writings.
  28. uskrabut
    uskrabut 5 September 2018 10: 44
    +2
    There will be no consequences, they talked and okay. To sit down, you need to send Sechin (a la strange landing of Ulyukaev, he still did not understand why). In this case, this was not. And a billion more, a billion less is not important, the main thing is treasury support wassat
  29. Semen1972
    Semen1972 5 September 2018 11: 02
    -1
    And what has changed, why the name of Navalny can be used here? There were no articles on other louder investigations. Better to watch "Moscow. Kremlin. Putin" and listen to Soloviev. Then the brain of a patriotic person is working in the right direction ... but we don't need all this ... And there is no sense, Vladimir Vladimirovich ... who is the fairest, wise and most humane - controls everything, everything is under control !!!
  30. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 5 September 2018 11: 22
    +1
    Rosguard in response to the material only spurred

    It’s not necessary for affective managers to answer some cattle ... you just need to make a smart face ... raise your eyes to the top ... sniff so meaningfully, they say it's state secrets and not everyone should know. Or maybe bark, as in the old days: Do you have a patchport? Eh, it’s a pity the Soviet government equalized everyone ... but nothing - it’s fixable! First, we will lose all pensions, and then we will only issue passports themselves especially loyal.
    Also, you understand, this is not evening ... Tremble the internal enemy - revenge of the WG will be scary!
  31. Waldemar
    Waldemar 5 September 2018 11: 23
    +2
    I'm sorry, but the bulk really pulled everything by the ears, which was answered in the Russian Guard. I watched the video. My questions immediately arose. Oil price - who is the manufacturer, what is the weight? Bulk pokes briquettes 150g. Potato? Price in winter, summer? No answer. The juice? What juice ?? from what? No answer. Gost in pyaterochku ANY draw. No need to powder the brains of guests, only naive people don’t know that in pyaterochka low-quality goods at the price of gold with linden guests.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 5 September 2018 12: 20
      -3
      Quote: Valdemar
      I'm sorry, but the bulk really pulled everything by the ears, which was answered in the Russian Guard. I watched the video.

      Bulk is lying! He wants to denigrate our power !! If Putin cannot even name his name, then any Putin should do the same !!! Why defile a site? What, there is nothing to see ?? Watch "Moscow. Kremlin Putin" about Putin's life, that's where it is interesting, this is the best program on TV. Only positive, no Dzhigarkhanyanov-Petrosyanov-Shurygin for you. Only patriotism and a bright future !!!
    2. Faceless
      Faceless 5 September 2018 14: 09
      -5
      Dear Waldemar, you are asking very true questions. That's just Navalny anyway to these answers. The main thing here is to say muck and concoct a provocation. But the truth does not matter to him. It’s a pity that not everyone from the audience for which the video is designed has questions like yours in your head ...
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 5 September 2018 14: 43
        -2
        Quote: Faceless
        That's just Navalny anyway to these answers. The main thing here is to say muck and concoct a provocation

        Is it possible that a normal person can believe that they steal power from us. Well this is complete nonsense. What is the point, they live in this Russia, they protect it and love it like their home !!!!
        1. Faceless
          Faceless 5 September 2018 15: 20
          -1
          Dear Semyon, how many can you troll all with your own malice? It would be better to write something clever and useful - there would be more sense.
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 5 September 2018 17: 58
            +3
            Quote: Faceless
            Dear Semyon, how many can you troll all with your own malice? It would be better to write something clever and useful - there would be more sense.

            And you can clarify your position. Is Navalny lying or is he telling the truth? You yourself what you think, tell your "smart" point of view. Wildly curious !!!
            1. Faceless
              Faceless 6 September 2018 09: 13
              -6
              Dear Semyon, take the trouble to read my comments outlined above. Everything is there in sufficient detail, and my position on the situation and on the criminal Navalny is extremely clear.
              1. Semen1972
                Semen1972 6 September 2018 13: 09
                -1
                Quote: Faceless
                Dear Semyon, take the trouble to read my comments outlined above. Everything is there in sufficient detail, and my position on the situation and on the criminal Navalny is extremely clear.

                AA, I understood everything, if our honest court did not blame anyone, then everything is fine. only law enforcement agencies can conduct investigations .. the most honest ones ... They reassured me, otherwise I had doubts that there were thieves among deputies and other officials .. of course not !!!! And at home in rubles and billions ... that’s how everyone writes books, especially their wives and children))) Yes, most likely it is, you are completely right .. you can immediately see the topic, live in a big city, see how officials live , you understand how the system works, the business is close to you .. it's nice to read such a person !!
  32. slowpokemonkey
    slowpokemonkey 5 September 2018 13: 12
    +1
    GB in the know? - I know.
    thanks to everybody, you're free......
  33. Cottager452
    Cottager452 5 September 2018 14: 01
    +1
    The authors of the article once again proved that the facts can be distorted so that an unintentional mosquito and nose will not undermine.
    Bravo, the trick was a success. But the main question: "to whose mill you pour water, gentlemen," - also received a worthy answer - to the mill of the enemy.
    And only so.
    1. Ivan staryi
      Ivan staryi 5 September 2018 14: 21
      -2
      The authors of the article did not distort anything. If blame for this, then Mr. Navalny. However, he explained everything extremely primitively, at the level of everyday logic. Of course, without detailed analysis and elaboration of nuances. But his opponents in response threw a jumble of clever words, incomprehensible to most ordinary people, without any intelligible justification. I don’t know as an "unintelligent mosquito", but it is clear to a trained specialist that there is a reason for the proceedings ..
      1. Faceless
        Faceless 5 September 2018 14: 31
        -2
        The fact of the matter is, these nuances make the whole point. It was the criminal who specially simplified and forgot about all the inconvenient questions for him, so that a layman could easily believe in his nonsense. It is targeted specifically at schoolchildren - its main audience.

        If a layman does not understand the topic, then this is an excuse to first figure it out, and then yell at the criminal "I support! Keep it up: all the power - and further in the text - but Navalny is our hero."

        Without clever words, his nonsense cannot be refuted, but the expectation is that no one will read clever words. There are many letters, many links, the terms are not clear. It's simpler for Navalny: "They are thieves" and that's it. Who is he himself, I want to ask. And the second question (after answering the first) why does he do this? ..

        So what is clear for the trained specialist (regarding the occasion for the proceedings)? - that the Government of the Russian Federation exercised its discretionary powers that the law gave it 9 years ago (maybe it didn’t look earlier) by issuing a non-normative legal act? What mess in the field of security so proven that it is time to take action? ..

        Of course, two lawyers - three opinions, and if desired, a good lawyer can suck anything out of the finger. The question is why do this? ..
  34. Alexey Sobolev
    Alexey Sobolev 5 September 2018 15: 33
    0
    Bulk does not shine until 2036 at least. In order for him to shine something, he must have an overwhelming majority in the Duma in the manner of EP today. Does anyone believe in such an opportunity?
    What is the majority in the Duma for? But how else can you change the law on the election of the President to abolish all those restrictions that he fell under? Armed uprising? Is someone interested in the idea of ​​battles between supporters of Navalny and Rosguard on the streets of our cities? And how many divisions does Navalny have so that he can resist like this?
    In general, Navalny is used as a flag for the buildup of the situation in the country (he is not interested in anybody) and this buildup can lead to bloody consequences. Who wants this? Who wants to see the death of their relatives, to extinguish their burning house? Do you think you will get around this? But I’m not sure ... I’m not sure that it will bypass me if it starts. But it can start if you continue to swing.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 5 September 2018 18: 01
      0
      Quote: Alexey Sobolev
      And how many divisions does Navalny have so that he can resist like this?

      What are you talking about ??? !! If people approve of Putin’s program, vote for him with an overwhelming majority, then it will not work to change power, what divisions ??? We all like it, even if you cancel your pension, it's all not important !!! Putin is cool because we in Syria showed the Americans that we are the coolest !!!
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  37. A good one
    A good one 5 September 2018 16: 01
    +3
    Quote: Stas157
    Thank you all for the cons! Friends, you are trying hard. This is the best response to accusing me of earning stars.
    Quote: Not bad
    Call the second star to wash

    Stas157,
    My friend, Stas, we live with you in one great country, and I am deeply convinced that if there are any hardships, we will always and surely share the crust of bread. It's me that our thoughts are different, we are just different people, but we are Russians, Russians, so let's still leave a little warmth in our hearts for each opponent. hi
  38. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 5 September 2018 16: 01
    0
    Also a good environment, right?

    How many times I saw this photo, but the tank driver’s face was noticed for the first time.
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    1. Faceless
      Faceless 5 September 2018 17: 09
      -4
      Quote: Imobile
      I personally liked Dimon more, great work


      Indeed, he did a great job. Then Alisher Usmanov filed a lawsuit against him for libel. And he won. And he won the appeal. Because in court, the facts are investigated, not speculation and nonsense. Everyone would have sued him, whom he had slandered, and would have asked for compensation for reputational damage not symbolic, but normal - he would not expose his nonsense to the public. It's just that most people don't even want to get involved with this criminal. Not every void is transparent. I'm sure if someone decides to sue here - the result will be the same.
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 5 September 2018 21: 36
        +1
        Come on in more detail! How did the court acquit him? After all, the bribe is documented, and there was fraud. Let's start with fraud, it turns out he has a certificate that the Supreme Court of Uzbekistan canceled. Why is it that the Supreme Court of Uzbekistan, bypassing all the procedures, has canceled the verdict - do not tell me. And on the account of the bribe by the site, it was justified only because the tax has no complaints !!! Ponder !!! He doesn’t pay taxes - we have no complaints, I gave a bribe - there are no complaints! Apparently, they also got it. And the rest of the facts were not even refuted. Long live the Soviet court - the most humane court in the world!
        1. Faceless
          Faceless 6 September 2018 09: 28
          -2
          I won’t even comment on your fantasies: I’m talking about one thing - you are talking about something else. See for yourself in more detail: Decision of the Lublin District Court of Moscow of May 31, 2017 and the Appeal ruling of the Moscow City Court of August 11, 2017. Take the trouble to look at the official websites of the courts yourself - open access solutions.

          To deal with the eradication of your illiteracy here, on my own, I see no reason. In the process of studying your comment, a strong feeling is created that you are illiterate both in the field of jurisprudence and in the field of public administration. Only your emotional and frenzied negativity to all opponents of Navalny is clearly stand out, and you don’t care about any reasonable counter-arguments. Your task in the comments is to whitewash the felon and denigrate those who disagree with you.
          Therefore, I’m almost sure that you won’t even try to look at these solutions: you don’t need it. You are already better than all the courts of the Russian Federation put together figured out what's what about the illegal activities of Navalny. both in the past and in the future.
          1. Imobile
            Imobile 6 September 2018 10: 20
            -1
            I not only studied the court decision, but also compared it with the investigation and made a squeeze. So essentially, since my comment was deleted, what do you have? Was the transfer of the site? Was, even Usmanov does not deny it. And the fact that the tax has no claims does not cancel the fact of a bribe.
          2. Revival
            Revival 11 September 2018 15: 05
            +1
            Looked: the military court sentence under the USSR was.
            Rehabilitated by a court of independent Uzbekistan. Why did the Sun suddenly concern itself with rehabilitation? We will not ask.
            Earnestly...
    2. Faceless
      Faceless 5 September 2018 17: 22
      -6
      There are no words about the rest of the comment.
      "We do not need any program, neither space, nor the Arctic, nor education, nor Syria, nor pensions, nor the budget, nor the army, nor health care are boring ... We do not need anything: only we will put the thieves, and the thieves are only officials and only thieves - there can be no other crimes, I suppose, and there will be happiness on earth. "
      This is not even a fairy tale ... I don’t know what to call it ... I can only explain this approach when the author, in addition to the bulk, did not study anything else: from economics to jurisprudence, from sociology to philosophy ... The level of education, apparently comparable with the Gavrilo Principle. no other explanation for such an approach comes to my mind.
      And if you consider that the program that can be called "put a thief" is being developed by the criminal himself, it even becomes funny.
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 5 September 2018 21: 41
        0
        Who is the felon? political and criminal are opposite sides. But the mention of pensions in the commentary put another bold plus to Navalny, and you also consider yourself smart ...
        1. Faceless
          Faceless 6 September 2018 09: 43
          -2
          A criminal is a vernacular designation of a person convicted of a criminal (and there is no other) crime. For reference, let me remind you that Navalny was convicted for crimes against property (Chapter 21 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). He and his brethren escaped as if in a frying pan, but he could not explain where the 16 rubles were going. I don’t remember all the subtleties of the case: more than 000 volumes, after all, but in the end, it seems, we stopped at article 000 "Assignment or Waste" of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          Of course, he carried out these actions for political reasons, what kind of criminality is there? .. laughing
          This is only one of his exploits))

          As for pensions, you remembered it well: Navalny's program to raise the retirement age disappeared from his website as soon as they started talking seriously about the upcoming pension reform. A simple conclusion is drawn from this: Navalny's "program" is based only on antagonism to the current government. Even if some of its theses are implemented in practice, he does not need it. He needs a conflict, a provocation. And he doesn't care about Russia, the Russian people in general, and pensioners in particular from the high bell tower.

          The question of how successful pension reform is being carried out should not be raised here - this is not the point. But the fact that as soon as they thought about raising the retirement age at the level of the highest bodies of state power, the relevant theses from the bulk program disappeared - this is an indicator of a lot. First of all: his true goals and attitudes.
          1. Imobile
            Imobile 6 September 2018 10: 31
            -1
            For the political, they always try to attribute criminal articles. You are talking about some 16 million that could not be convincingly attributed to the bulk, and in violation of the rules and limitations. Now think that these are 16 million against the hundreds of billions that Navalny and his team have uncovered. Suppose Navalny does not have a program for the presidency, but he uncovered 1000 times more than all our prosecutors. Moreover, the quality of the prosecutor’s charges is always lame and in a normal court all cases would fall apart. And Navalny has a quality investigation. Let's fire the entire prosecutor’s office and put Navalny in their place. What is scary for the place?
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 5 September 2018 19: 02
      +3
      Quote: Imobile
      Yes, Navalny has no program, but to plant thieves!

      he has a program ... and there was "raise the retirement age" !!! wink yes wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  40. Larum
    Larum 5 September 2018 17: 45
    +3
    Yes - a conclusion - if some troll N does not like it, then he calls to close his eyes to theft.

    And normal people, in principle, do not care who caught theft and lies - at least N, at least the FSB, at least the leading Goblin ...

    Everyone understands everything, but they are silent .....
  41. Catfish
    Catfish 5 September 2018 18: 08
    +7
    What is it all about? Bulk, liberal, fecal, what's the difference who leaked the information about the Thief. If they are justified, then there is something. And why do we need it at all, this Russian Guard? There were few law enforcement agencies in the country, so the gendarmerie was also put on our neck. We, it turns out, feed her and dress her, and she also steals from us. And then we, for our money, will also regale with a club. Well, the president started his own praetorians for himself, so let him pay from his own pocket. And let them steal from there. In the Union, too, there were a bunch of all sorts of such "offices", and how this "idyll" ended is well known to everyone.
    1. Faceless
      Faceless 6 September 2018 09: 51
      -5
      The question is not who leaked the information. The question is how the emphasis is placed and how this information is presented. There above are competent comments about what happened. And where theft is - an open question. Rosguard has been since the time of the Russian Empire, it was only called differently, but the essence was the same.

      So as not to get a club - you should not participate in provocations and go to unauthorized rallies.
      Everyone loves the police / National Guard to find fault with them. There is a wonderful example in Ukraine, when the street "won". How is it? Has it gotten better? When brainless "onizhedeti" smash your car, your shop window (and take out half of the store at the same time in the interests of the revolution), because of them you will not be able to get to work on time - then you will look at it differently.

      In conclusion: name at least one country in the world where corruption was defeated by rallies on the street, where corruption would be less after the coup (not in 20-50 years, but closer). Consider this.
    2. Double major
      Double major 6 September 2018 13: 04
      0
      Kisa, Maidan does not give you peace? What do you mean, why the Rosguard? But the gendarmerie is not necessary to remember. If it worked well and correctly then, in October, they would not go to the dachas to harvest ...
  42. Digital error
    Digital error 5 September 2018 19: 26
    0
    Either according to the announcement they scored, or by pull.
    How many times have they told the world ... Swat-in-law Brother ... Ugh.
  43. Observer2014
    Observer2014 5 September 2018 20: 20
    +2
    Either according to the announcement they scored, or by pull.
    laughing wassat laughing good According to the announcement, apparently not. Only by pull. In the West (and you all in power poked us that they raise the retirement age like that), they would have expelled all the defendants from such a scandal with a filthy broom. Including top management.
  44. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 6 September 2018 04: 22
    +3
    Good article. And Navalny does everything right, exciting this thieves ’kodlu.
  45. AleBors
    AleBors 6 September 2018 11: 07
    -1
    Thanks to the authors ... What can I say? Everyone wants to eat sweetly and sleep softly ... He is not his own state pocket ... and taking it from him is easy and pleasant ... An opened fact is only a small part of the entire bacchanalia of lawlessness and theft that is happening in our Fatherland. And all from impunity ... And the farther, the more insolently steal ...
    "Or won't they?" Of course they won't. They will be sent to retire at most, and there, on their free bread, they will be engaged in "business" and "resolve issues" on old connections ... Beauty, and no responsibility ...
  46. Double major
    Double major 6 September 2018 12: 59
    +4
    With Rosguard, everything is not clear at all. The son there now serves on the call. Attended. Uniform - don’t get that, some kind of police remains. Bertsa issued - three months did not carry, fell apart. And - parents, buy for yourself, but a specific sample, the same d ... mo. What they are doing is not clear, for six months he shot, and once they showed a trench for shooting lying down. From the side. I ask - tell me the size of the rifle cell. The answer - FIG knows, I don’t remember. So after all, this is a mob preparation. reserve. A little of what - to the mobilized division, and into battle. Not even cannon fodder. In the 41st people, at least NVP took place ... At the daughter, the guy serves in the army in the part of the Moscow Region - everything is fine there, both with security and with the training of fighters.
  47. Polkovnik parker
    Polkovnik parker 6 September 2018 13: 24
    0
    My opinion about the Beginner is gradually changing for the better. Yuri Vdut once asked Grudin in an interview: "If you became a president, who would you make a prime minister?" Grudinin replied: "Novalny".
  48. Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 6 September 2018 14: 11
    0
    Excellent logic - let Navalny himself seek arguments against himself - in the ge. Medvedev and his entourage lack this mind.
    Why not ge. Medvedev or his representative does not voice in public space what is wrong Navalny? Well, for example - the yachts are not mine, the palace is not mine, etc. - Well, it’s also familiar with factology, so that we would figure out which of them is lying.
    And our court, hmm ... sorry, but the authority among his people is not enough, to say the least.
  49. Aleksvar
    Aleksvar 6 September 2018 15: 39
    +1
    Dear citizens, watch this video, it will be interesting to you https://youtu.be/52TKeCXqITg
  50. Valeron45
    Valeron45 6 September 2018 20: 37
    +2
    And how to put a minus article?