Russian Defense Ministry: Return to the political politicians

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The country's defense department announces plans for a certain kind of reorganization of commanders in units and formations. We are talking about the next "renaming" of deputy commanders for work with personnel. Until the end of the year, as the newspaper Izvestia notes, the country's Ministry of Defense plans to turn the deputies on the radar station (working with personnel) into deputies on the CDF - military-political work. A peculiar revival of the institute of zampolitov in the army.

In the material "Izvestia" It is noted that the changes will undergo not only the name of the position as such, but also the terms of reference of those officers who occupy these positions. In particular, the WRU’s intentions will deal with “issues of patriotism of servicemen, to provide a deep understanding of state defense policy”. At the same time, it was stated that the deputy commanders for work with the personnel focused on the education of the personnel and its discipline.





In fact, the last statement looks a bit strange. Everything depended and continues to depend on the identity of the officer occupying this position. The responsible deputy on the radar station had enough time and opportunities to communicate not only the rules of relations between the personnel, but also the very nuances of the state defense policy to the military. Patriotic work was also carried out. As previously, the responsible political officer had enough time and talent to clarify the essence of patriotism in the army, and the situation with the relationship in the team of servicemen (discipline).

If the officer is not ready for the qualitative performance of his duties, then his position can be renamed at least three times, this is unlikely to change the situation in a single case. Although the Ministry of Defense, of course, know better.

Earlier it was reported that by 1 December, the department will complete the formation of the Main Military-Political Administration.

The deputy commander for the CDF will report directly to the unit commander and be the immediate superior for the rest of the personnel in the military unit.
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  1. +4
    4 September 2018 06: 49
    Decimation will be introduced soon and there will be order.
    1. +9
      4 September 2018 06: 59
      And 27 years have not passed ...
      1. +16
        4 September 2018 07: 45
        Russian Defense Ministry: Return to the political politicians

        Under this case, it would be nice to create an ideology that suits the majority. What will the new political officers convince the soldiers of? That the lack of uniforms is temporary difficulties associated with the repair of Usmanov's yacht? Or low-quality products - the result of sanctions against Deripaska, who has fun with "fish" and "snails"? Most likely it is necessary to attach idlers from the EP, there is apparently nowhere to put money? wassat All problems with military pensions resolved?
        1. +1
          4 September 2018 08: 03
          Quote: ROSS 42
          What's the lack of uniforms

          Quote: ROSS 42
          Or substandard products

          You, somewhere in the 90s are wandering.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          All problems with military pensions resolved?

          Completely resolved, I am embarrassed to designate my pension.
          1. +2
            4 September 2018 08: 19
            Russian Defense Ministry: Return to the political politicians
            in the current system, it scares ... what will brainwash with?
            1. +3
              4 September 2018 08: 45
              the result of sanctions against Deripaska, who has fun with "fish" and "snails"

              With what kind of "snails" Deripaska is having fun? what
              1. +3
                4 September 2018 10: 54
                Probably, in order to "have fun" with "snails" - you have to be especially savvy in various kinds of perversions. winked
              2. +1
                4 September 2018 17: 36
                So I thought about what it is? recourse
            2. +2
              4 September 2018 13: 20
              Quote: Dead Day
              Russian Defense Ministry: Return to the political politicians
              in the current system, it scares ... what will brainwash with?

              European values ​​and how to respond to them .... laughing
        2. +1
          4 September 2018 13: 24
          Quote: ROSS 42
          What will the new political leaders convince the soldiers?

          Universal soldiers will be created, otherwise the modern soldier will distract too much from tasks ..... wink
        3. +1
          4 September 2018 14: 18
          political leaders ...
          It used to be clear - the party line, VKP (b) / CPSU.

          and now? If I do not return, consider me ... by whom? Zhirinovites? Zyuganovites? Yabloko? Tell Chubais that Private Finkelstein surrendered to the enemy for the “just cause” of the ATP?
          wink
          or "for the homeland, for Putin !!" ?
          1. +1
            4 September 2018 15: 09
            Quote: den3080
            political leaders ...
            It used to be clear - the party line, VKP (b) / CPSU.

            And grandfather Nikolai had a shaman. At the Cossacks, in Tofalaria. These are the ones who set up a barracks and an outpost of marble for themselves. Gaidar later called it "the count's ruin".
            And Peter had the Indians in the Cossacks ...
            So yes, the command system in the Russian army has always included political officers. Whatever they are called.
          2. 0
            4 September 2018 17: 33
            Quote: den3080
            political leaders ...
            It used to be clear - the party line, VKP (b) / CPSU.

            and now? If I do not return, consider me ... by whom? Zhirinovites? Zyuganovites? Yabloko? Tell Chubais that Private Finkelstein surrendered to the enemy for the “just cause” of the ATP?
            wink
            or "for the homeland, for Putin !!" ?

            Find the duties of a political officer - you will be surprised how little there is about the party line.
        4. 0
          5 September 2018 05: 10
          That the lack of uniforms is temporary difficulties associated with the repair of Usmanov's yacht? Or low-quality products - the result of sanctions against Deripaska, who has fun with "fish" and "snails"? Most likely it is necessary to attach idlers from the EP, there is apparently nowhere to put money? wassat Have all the problems with military pensions been solved?

          Everything is correct. If you could put ten pluses. The schizophrenism of the official ideological policy (NOT) of our government is striking. On the one hand, the country is a winner, on the other hand, they won despite.
          And in the constitution of the Russian Federation it is generally written: - "
          Article 13. In the Russian Federation, the ideological ...
          Constitution of the Russian Federation Chapter 1 Article 13
          1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
          2. No ideology can be established as state or mandatory ...
          And what kind of policies will the politicians deal with?
  2. +20
    4 September 2018 06: 58
    We have already discussed this topic like that. Let there be "political officers" with the slogan "Long live the bourgeois Fatherland and the good tsar!" This is especially true in light of the complete transition to a contract army. The slogan "love your Motherland for money!" Will be added.
    1. +9
      4 September 2018 07: 15
      the next step will be to create primary organizations of "eaters of russia" from the battalion (ship of the 3rd rank) and party commissions with political departments ...
      1. AUL
        +7
        4 September 2018 07: 27
        The deputy commander for the CDF will report directly to the unit commander and be the immediate boss for the rest of the military personnel.
        Once again, one party’s power in the army! And it’s easy to guess which one.
        1. +1
          4 September 2018 08: 05
          Quote from AUL
          Once again, one party’s power in the army! And it’s easy to guess which one.

          Will they again demand the presence of abstracts of speeches, now, of the president, the Moscow region, and all sorts of different speakers? belay
          1. +2
            4 September 2018 11: 32
            Apparently my "minusists" never took notes of the materials of the CPSU congresses, stupidly copying them in notebooks from the magazine "Communist of the Armed Forces", and did not feel how the political guys were fighting the personnel for the absence of these notes.
            1. 0
              4 September 2018 17: 51
              Quote: Piramidon
              Apparently my "minusists" never took notes of the materials of the CPSU congresses, stupidly copying them in notebooks from the magazine "Communist of the Armed Forces", and did not feel how the political guys were fighting the personnel for the absence of these notes.

              You might think that the political guys did it by a soul movement laughing But if you look at it "from here", they didn't fight much. It was necessary to learn by heart - maybe something was deposited in some heads. And they take notes, by the way, in the EP and now, but it's already clear who drinks
        2. 0
          4 September 2018 17: 46
          Quote from AUL
          The deputy commander for the CDF will report directly to the unit commander and be the immediate boss for the rest of the military personnel.
          Once again, one party’s power in the army! And it’s easy to guess which one.

          Which one? EP, is it? Not guessing, now the power of any party, which is for capitalism - even the United Russia, even the SR, even the LDPR. So the "political officer" will not represent the party, but the ideology - the ideology of the bourgeoisie. And according to the Constitution, I heard that ideology is prohibited in the Russian Federation (for whom we are all held) laughing
      2. +2
        4 September 2018 07: 46
        Better from each batch on the primary, Schaub was more fun
      3. -1
        4 September 2018 08: 09
        Already. My wife’s niece got a therapist in Moscow. Now, in order to get a job in the public sector in Moscow, you need to become a member of EP. But knowing our people, as well as the CPSU, the last years of its existence, at least to the party of pasta lovers, but Vedas desks, you have to pay contributions, and this is no longer a camilpho ...
      4. 0
        4 September 2018 10: 43
        And call the position: EDRYON political instructor!
        1. 0
          4 September 2018 17: 53
          Quote: Labrador
          And call the position: EDRYON political instructor!

          Do not get dirty political instructors. Father told me that in the Second World War they really raised them in battle.
          1. 0
            10 September 2018 21: 36
            hi
            And I am against the then political instructors and have nothing against! There was a normal ideology and political officers were normal. Now where is the ideology?
            And my grandfather passed from Finnish to Japanese - he also did not complain.

            Yours!
    2. +8
      4 September 2018 07: 26
      Altona (Eugene)
      "Long live the bourgeois Fatherland and the good tsar!" This is especially true in light of the complete transition to a contract army. The slogan "love your Motherland for money!" Will be added.
      laughing good Zapolite all of course United Russia will be. The latter, by the way, say agony laughing
    3. 0
      4 September 2018 10: 20
      Quote: Altona
      This is especially true in light of the complete transition to a contract army. The slogan "love your Motherland for money!" Will be added.

      Yes, I remember we laughed at the phrase - "If the Motherland thinks that she pays us, let her think that we serve her" and served for a penny, because it did not fit in my head how not to serve? If you yourself signed up for it? but the fools are over, or they quickly grow wiser after being in the system, and even worse, when they adapt and begin to hide behind the phrase at which we laughed.
  3. +1
    4 September 2018 06: 58
    But the army needs "Kisilevs" and "Solovyovs" wassat
    1. 0
      4 September 2018 07: 29
      and to include in the daily routine the obligatory viewing of "the defeat of Bandera for 60 minutes" and "the Jewish-Armenian salvation of Russia from Solovyov" with notes on Kiselev's opuses and Peskov's blizzard ...
  4. +1
    4 September 2018 07: 11
    "Zampolits, political instructors ...
    And still, the commissars soldier "!!!
    1. +6
      4 September 2018 08: 26
      Quote: ANCIENT
      "Zampolits, political instructors ...
      And still, the commissars soldier "!!!

      And how many "commissars" in the 90s were repainted as priests? And these same tovarischi careers were broken for a pectoral cross. The most deceitful and parasitic cohort in the army.
      1. -1
        4 September 2018 17: 56
        Quote: Serge Gorely
        Quote: ANCIENT
        "Zampolits, political instructors ...
        And still, the commissars soldier "!!!

        And how many "commissars" in the 90s were repainted as priests? And these same tovarischi careers were broken for a pectoral cross. The most deceitful and parasitic cohort in the army.

        Examples please. To estimate how much. Or are you doing PPR? As a representative of "the most deceitful and parasitic cohort" laughing
  5. +6
    4 September 2018 07: 21
    Earlier it was reported that by 1 December, the department will complete the formation of the Main Military-Political Administration.
    ... The board only lacked ... On the other hand, new jobs will appear ... smile
    1. +3
      4 September 2018 07: 57
      Such reorganizations are arranged in order to shake up the drugs, and sometimes in order to quietly remove someone "deserved"! Nothing new, but without knowing the true background, you can misunderstand the meaning of this action.
  6. +4
    4 September 2018 07: 24
    It all depends on the authority. The name "... for military-political ..."
    In my opinion, deputy. for working with personnel was the very name of the post. But the new one sounds just like the chief of staff! Political leaders have always had considerable ambitions, their phantom pains torment about former power.
  7. +13
    4 September 2018 07: 37
    Quote from AUL
    Once again, one party’s power in the army! And it’s easy to guess which one.

    ----------------------------
    I probably wrote cynically, but given the flow of terry bourgeois propaganda, it is not clear what the army should defend. Either their own people, with whom the liberal government is already at war with "velvet genocide", or the location of new pipelines for Sechin and Miller. And now you watch TV, there are several hours of discussion of Volochkova and Maksakova's cowards, then Sheinin comes out, Popov and Skabeeva and discusses Trump and Poroshenko. As if in Russia besides this there are no problems at all. Will they also instill such "patriotism" in the soldiers?
    1. +1
      4 September 2018 08: 15
      The soldier must ALWAYS be busy with something "useful"! And in the brain of a soldier there should be no room for extraneous thoughts .... play battle, for example. outsiders are not considered. We're not in the Land of the Soviets now, where "where there was no sex. But there was LOVE."
      When I met very smart politicians, they were prepared like that !!! There was a special educational institution.
      Now, on the new, what can happen. I can’t imagine.
  8. +1
    4 September 2018 07: 57
    In short, young people will be brainwashed, those who do not watch TV and are not stupefied by nightingales.
  9. +3
    4 September 2018 08: 04
    In the Red Army, Stalin removed all these political leaders from command, especially during major military operations, but subsequently especially after the Second World War, the political leaders became bureaucrats of the army, I remember the meaningless political training sessions, which were put almost in the first place with special training items, even surrender it didn’t pass to classiness without the intervention of the politicians, something like that.
    1. +1
      6 September 2018 11: 20
      He dismissed, but not immediately, there was a dual power. After power, they became less.
  10. -6
    4 September 2018 08: 05
    Is there such a diagnosis "brain scoop"?
    1. 0
      4 September 2018 11: 15
      Quote: Puncher
      Is there such a diagnosis "brain scoop"?

      Of course have! Those who call their homeland a scoop, or rather, he does not have a homeland, there is "this country".
  11. +5
    4 September 2018 08: 07
    How does a political officer differ from a commander? The commander says, "Do as I do," and the political officer says, "Do as I said."
    1. +1
      4 September 2018 12: 06
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      How does a political officer differ from a commander? The commander says, "Do as I do," and the political officer says, "Do as I said."

      We had such an adage:
      Three went into the bathhouse. Everyone - knee-deep ... stop The political officer has a tongue, the bloodwater has a stomach, the ensign has his hands ... lol
  12. -1
    4 September 2018 08: 22
    In particular, the parliament’s deputy will deal with “issues of military patriotism and provide a deep understanding of state defense policy”. At the same time, it was stated that the deputy commanders for work with personnel focused on the education of personnel and their discipline.
    And how can you educate a "fighter" and discipline, if not through patriotism and understanding of your destiny? That is, all those who laid down their heads in Syria were not patriotic enough, but fought with the barmaley for profit? Here is spit so spit!
    1. -5
      4 September 2018 08: 57
      And this is like a victory in the Second World War. The people defeated in spite of Stalin and the Communists with the commissars. Or entering SA in Czechoslovakia. There can be no complaints against soldiers. So it is in Syria. Each soldier is worthy of respect for conscientiously fulfilling the order. But for whose interests they are there - is another matter. In short, everything is popularly interpreted at the Yeltsin Center. This is not a spit?
  13. -1
    4 September 2018 08: 32
    Quote: Shkiper
    That is, all those who laid their heads in Syria were not patriotic enough, but fought with the barmales for the sake of profit?

    ---------------------------
    This is not about fighters in Syria. It is about the political leaders, what they will be and what ideology to carry into the army. By the way, the protest rallies against raising the retirement age in Moscow last Sunday put the cordon in the cordon, and not just the police. I wonder for what purpose? In our city, the rally was small and in the central square, but the police were friendly, we even talked a bit with her.
    1. -1
      4 September 2018 08: 53
      Eugene and I are about the same. There was a structure that was engaged in education and discipline, or rather the commander was engaged in this, and this structure, either provided methodological assistance, or played the fool. But she lived "under the plinth." Now she got out from under this plinth and spreads her wings. She will do what she did, only in a different status. hi
  14. +1
    4 September 2018 08: 32
    The Sabbath was arranged in the comments, the news was generally ordinary, and it was renamed - business, without these specialists it’s even somehow boring, because you have to work with the Women's Council, dishonor drunks and talk about the difficult international situation. Fatherland?
    1. -1
      4 September 2018 16: 41
      Well, they renamed it - it’s business, without these specialists it’s even somehow boring, because you have to work with the Women's Council, dishonor drunks and talk about the difficult international situation. What is still the bourgeois Fatherland?
      Vladimir, sorry, these "boys" not only fought with drunks, but also supervised the Armed Forces. If you didn't know or forgot, then GlavPUR was a department of the CPSU Central Committee in the USSR Armed Forces. They supervised the commanders so that they, God forbid, would not arrange some kind of sedition against the "leading and guiding". But the most interesting thing is that they did it very badly. Since only their "brother" captain of the 3rd rank Sablin tried to hijack the TFR "Sentinel" to Sweden. So everything goes back to the fact that a subdivision would appear in the RF Armed Forces that will supervise the commanders, so that they, God forbid, may not think of something good ...
      1. +1
        4 September 2018 17: 25
        Quote: Shkiper
        only their "brother" Captain 3rd Rank Sablin tried to hijack the TFR "Sentinel" to Sweden. So everything goes back to the fact that a subdivision would appear in the RF Armed Forces that will supervise the commanders, so that they, God forbid, may not think of something good ...

        Sablin was shot. But he advocated the pure ideals of communism, after studying at the VPA named after V.I. Lenin. And in girlhood (before the deputy of the ship) he was born into a glorious cohort of "Romanians" (miners, that is). And he fought against the corrupt sons of party workers, the impossibility of the growth of ordinary officers on the career ladder. Well, etc. The man was conscientious and honest. But he went crazy on ideals, unable to interpret them to life during the period of Brezhnev's stagnation. Personally, I condemn the "riot on the ship", but as a person he deserves personal respect. He can be called a traitor with an interference, tk. he opposed the partocracy, not against the motherland. It is something like: "I demand to purge the party and return to Lenin's norms of life!" After this "Riga petrel" on the BF many hats flew ... Why am I writing about this? It was just interesting to figure out what led a single person to oppose the system. I spoke with people who knew him personally. And everyone said that they would have gone to reconnaissance with him and he would have gone up first to attack.
        As for supervision. Our office is engaged in this. This is not for the CDF ... The omnipotence of the CPSU has sunk into oblivion, and the EP, thank God, has not come.
        Somehow, sadly, however.
        1. 0
          5 September 2018 11: 17
          Alexander, remember what could have ruined an officer's career? Party line reprimand, reprimand for the loss of secrets and small arms. Special officers worked on the thoughts of the last, but these comrades were the first. You should have seen the face of my first "deputy division commander" when I introduced myself as a lieutenant after college. The first question is you are a communist, no member of the Komsomol. All right, you can't take an officer for a Faberge. My first ship commander (SKR pr 50) had a reprimand on the party line, so the "deputy" wiped his feet on him, just like "we'll talk to you elsewhere." And the deputy lieutenant. As for Sablin, a person with the right convictions does not have the right to risk the lives of others, on board for a hundred young boys 20 years old. Well, the commander freed himself in time and arrested this "correct" one, otherwise they would have fed the fish at the bottom of the Baltic. For me, Jr. Lieutenant Ilyin is more respectful than Sablin. Although this "broke the wood".
      2. 0
        4 September 2018 18: 33
        Quote: Shkiper
        They supervised the commanders so that they, God forbid, would not arrange some kind of sedition against the "leading and guiding".

        They didn’t oversee anything, a squadron without a political officer that a village without a fool I didn’t come up with.
        Quote: Shkiper
        But the most interesting thing is that they did it very poorly.

        I agree, the workers were useless, they were all engaged in some kind of reporting.
        1. -1
          5 September 2018 11: 03
          a squadron without a political officer that a village without a fool
          in the Navy they talked about chemists like that.
  15. 0
    4 September 2018 08: 36
    Symbiosis is socialism for the lower classes, capitalism for the upper classes. So live it.
  16. 0
    4 September 2018 08: 36
    Quote: Dr_Engie
    In short, young people will be brainwashed, those who do not watch TV and are not stupefied by nightingales.

    ----------------------------------------
    Now it’s hard to do, with young people the entire Internet is literally in your pocket. A modern smartphone is more powerful than a computer already.
  17. -1
    4 September 2018 08: 38
    What are the politicians, our ideology is prohibited by constitution. This is the first. Second, do not consider the military idiots, they don’t see how their relatives, friends, relatives and acquaintances live. What the political officer will tell him about patriotism, when his relatives are carlshot for 10-20 thousand for the owner. As there were stupid propagandists in Soviet times, they remained.
    1. +1
      4 September 2018 08: 47
      Interestingly, the magazine "Communist VS" on which classes were conducted will revive ?! If revived, will it have the name "United Russia"?
      1. 0
        4 September 2018 08: 53
        I remember the magazine "Kommunist", as I looked through, in my opinion it was the dumbest magazine. Always the dustiest lay in the libraries. So that's how they used it.
  18. -2
    4 September 2018 08: 52
    And then! Correctly! Before the military can raise the retirement age, it is imperative to politicians; and shob were like commissars in bourgeois propaganda !!!
    Ps This is not an exact formulation of my thought, but essentially ...
    There will simply be many letters. Too lazy to write ...
  19. -2
    4 September 2018 09: 00
    Quote: Alex Nevs
    Symbiosis is socialism for the lower classes, capitalism for the upper classes.

    --------------------------
    Verkhushka believes that with the people it is necessary as Stalin, and most live as Abramovich. The 1940s and 1990s are to blame for everything, but the government has nothing to do with it.
  20. -1
    4 September 2018 09: 03
    Quote: bober1982
    to work with the Women's Council, dishonor drunks and talk about the difficult international situation.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Yes, yes, to dishonor conditional lieutenant Petrov, who cannot repay another loan and glorify conditional general Ivanov, who does not deny himself anything. And the international situation is so complicated that people need to be torn like sticky.
    1. +1
      4 September 2018 09: 26
      Now it’s not that lieutenants, cadets do not deny themselves anything.
      Quote: Altona
      And the international environment is so complicated

      Much harder to whom - the future war, and to whom - loans.
    2. +1
      4 September 2018 09: 37
      At the same time, no matter how they catch the conditional General Ivanov, so at home is a small bottle of money of a potential enemy. So much that for a lifetime you can’t earn. It seems that we purged the war a long time ago in all respects. How can one trust such commanders? I generally ceased to understand why people are now in the army. They hope that you don’t have to fight, and that you can earn a pension faster? I don’t think that they are ready to sacrifice themselves for a pipe or aluminum, or do households push it? Then in the name of what?
      For all, sometimes disrespect for the Soviet political officials, the latter were "still ours" ... The current faith is not at the start.
      1. 0
        4 September 2018 09: 45
        Quote: AnGiNa
        It seems that we purged the war a long time ago in all respects.

        It's a good thing to sit on the couch and bang on the keyboard
        1. 0
          4 September 2018 10: 42
          Firstly, you are wrong about the sofa. During Leonid Ilyich I managed to be an internationalist. Shot ...
          Secondly, for a number of reasons, I have been on the military register for almost 10 more years. You have to be aware of, no desire is asked. As a developer, you had to go to trials and see how the army changes thanks to your work. And NATO all this time (even in the research institutes) remained a likely enemy. And here the top officers have a lot of enemy money. It's easier with rubles - a person is still weak, he is tempted. How about dollars? Or "to here" I am a military man, and in this corner I am engaged in accumulation? Can you admit that Zhukov (here the surname is figurative) was in the stash of the Reichsmark? Therefore, such moods.
          Explain my wrong evidence - rejoice together.
          1. -1
            4 September 2018 11: 22
            Quote: AnGiNa
            During Leonid Ilyich I managed to be an internationalist.

            By the way, the political lexicon, therefore, the times of Leonid Ilyich quickly disappeared, along with internationalists - these fled to the outskirts, started shouting - Salo dropped!
          2. +1
            4 September 2018 17: 56
            Quote: AnGiNa
            Can you allow Zhukov (here the surname is figurative) to have a stash of Reichsmark?
            Why does Zhukov need Reichsmarks - the currency of the defeated state? Read the case of the "marshals" maybe then you will find out what was in the price at that time! This is true, by the way.
            On business... Which of the current "military" did you see a bunch of dollars when arrested? At Taburetkin's? - so a rogue with a female battalion from the tax office. Colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs D. Zakharchenko? so the werewolf is the keeper of the thieves' Russian Railways common fund ... And so wherever you go - everywhere there are not "those military", but businessmen who came for profit from the military department. There are no linear ones, more and more carts ...
            And now you give the murderous facts of theft of footcloths and stew by combatant military!
            AHA.
  21. +1
    4 September 2018 09: 31
    Quote: bober1982
    Now it’s not that lieutenants, cadets do not deny themselves anything.

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    Yes, by the way about cadets-patriots. Come on, Andryukha, study!
    1. +2
      4 September 2018 12: 06
      And by the way, there is something in this. I often go to Gorelovo and Strelna from the Veteranov metro station ... there are branches of the University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on Pilyutova and Budyonny Prospekt, recently I noticed that the metro has become full of cadets who go there, exactly those indicated in the above the list ... moreover, "Ryazan" faces are very rare ... I'm even afraid to imagine from whom and from whom, this entire "contingent" will then be protected ... sad
    2. +2
      4 September 2018 18: 00
      Quote: Altona
      about cadets-patriots.

      Respected! You first read the "sign"!
      What relation does St. Petersburg University M V D (!) Have to the RF Ministry of Defense !?
      Before throwing substance on a fan, it would not be bad to turn on the brain! Yes
  22. +1
    4 September 2018 10: 42
    The best educational work with a soldier is active combat training, combat duty. Better yet, take part in hostilities. Then all the crap out of their heads flies out.
    1. 0
      4 September 2018 18: 12
      Quote: vladimirvn
      The best educational work with a soldier is active combat training, combat duty. Better yet, take part in hostilities. Then all the crap out of their heads flies out.

      A soldier who is not morally and psychologically prepared in combat is often just "meat". Learn materiel or something.
      1. 0
        7 September 2018 11: 51
        It is combat training and military operations that temper soldiers as much as any classroom activities.
  23. -1
    4 September 2018 17: 14
    Do I understand correctly that the political leaders will still be watching over the commanders? And thirty years have passed, as again ...
    1. +1
      4 September 2018 18: 14
      Quote: Tavrik
      Do I understand correctly that the political leaders will still be watching over the commanders? And thirty years have passed, as again ...

      Give a quote from the duties of the KCHR, where it is said. Or so, throw shit on the fan?
  24. 0
    4 September 2018 17: 30
    Military-political work implies a certain ideology, and that, in turn, is part of an ideology that, like, is prohibited in the Russian Federation. Some kind of chukha comes out. wassat
    1. +2
      4 September 2018 17: 38
      Some kind of chukha comes out.

      Looks will be allowed soon ...
  25. 0
    4 September 2018 18: 08
    Quote: rocket757
    The soldier must ALWAYS be busy with something "useful"! And in the brain of a soldier there should be no room for extraneous thoughts .... play battle, for example. outsiders are not considered. We're not in the Land of the Soviets now, where "where there was no sex. But there was LOVE."
    When I met very smart politicians, they were prepared like that !!! There was a special educational institution.
    Now, on the new, what can happen. I can’t imagine.

    There were 7 or 9 educational institutions, I don't remember. And if the political officer didn’t put him on the post of a Komsomol member, party organizer, or a club / GDO, it means that either there is no shaggy paw, or he is really smart. Others even went to the commanders - these generally "animals" were (in a good way) laughing
  26. 0
    4 September 2018 20: 46
    Suvorov said - we are Russian, God with us, God bless us. A Mongol is better than a Tatar, but 4 Tartars are better than one Armenian. But FC Ararat is located in Moscow. Where is the truth brother?
  27. -1
    5 September 2018 05: 06
    Like obscurantist priests wooed on this matter. What, they didn’t pull it, they were hairy-nosed, or they promised little money?
  28. 0
    5 September 2018 16: 11
    In general, there are preachers of patriotism. But what about patriotism itself?

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