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China's aircraft carrier ambitions: "Russia has not yet dreamed of such technologies"

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Despite the serious successes of our warships involved in the counter-terrorist operation in the Middle East, it is obvious that for the time being our naval ambitions are limited. By virtue of the principle of reasonable sufficiency and modesty (in comparison with our opponents) of the military budget, we have focused on the construction and modernization of missile carriers, both submarines and surface ones.




In recent years, the Russian Navy has been replenished with a galaxy of frigates - moderately expensive, small, equipped with the most modern weaponswhile possessing excellent seaworthiness, to small rocket ships.

Perhaps this is enough to "demonstrate the flag" and protect the coastal seas, our, by and large, land country, but for the dominance of the ocean expanses of this is clearly not enough.



Another thing is China, whose geopolitical and economic interests, as well as the growing confrontation in the South China Sea, are forcing it to become a maritime power with a powerful military fleetable to control large ocean areas.



That is, today naval construction is becoming one of the main priorities of Beijing, in which, of course, the creation and development of aircraft carrying ships occupies an important place.

The other day, the Chinese edition of "Jinzhi Toutiao" reported that the pilots of the marine aviation China mastered the technology of night landings and take-offs from the deck of an aircraft carrier.

China's aircraft carrier ambitions: "Russia has not yet dreamed of such technologies"


American experts, as indicated by Jinji Toutyao, the translation of the publication, which is presented by the InoSMI, argued that it would take many years for the Chinese to master this technique, but they would be laid out in six years.

The essence of the new technology is not disclosed, it is only indicated that the landing system is automatic, which “allowed to reduce the moral strain of the pilots” and ensure equally effective actions of deck aircraft at any time of day. Through the use of assistive devices, the participation of the human factor, and, consequently, the possible errors associated with it, is reduced to a minimum, as well as the level of requirements for pilot skills.



The publication also proudly emphasizes: "Russia has not yet dreamed of such technologies, it only remains for them to look at their eastern brothers with envy."

However, if we consider that for the “western brothers” of the Chinese, that is, for us, this issue is not very relevant at the moment, due to the fact that the only Russian aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov” is under repair, the boasting of the publication is hardly reasonable.



We also note that at the moment in the Chinese Navy there is only one aircraft carrier, which is made in the same way as the Russian Kuzya (as the sailors are affectionately called it) with all its inherent flaws. Or rather, like this: the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaonin is built on the basis of the unfinished Soviet aircraft carrying cruiser Varyag, sold by Ukraine.



The second Chinese aircraft carrier, built using a similar scheme, was launched in April 2017, and is expected to be introduced into the Chinese Navy in 2020. According to Chinese tradition, the fleet names the ships only before being put into service, so for now the second aircraft carrier is Type 001A ("Liaoning" is Type 001).

The new Chinese aircraft carrier, at least externally, is an obvious copy of the Soviet counterpart, and it differs from Admiral Kuznetsov and Liaonin only a set of radar antennas on the command island. One of its main problems is the lack of a catapult, instead of which a starting springboard is used, which imposes serious restrictions on the take-off weight of the aircraft.



So, Jian-15, the J-15 fighter, which is essentially a copy of the Soviet Su-33, the prototype and documentation of which the Chinese received from Ukraine along with Varyag, cannot take off with full armament or have to rise with a minimum stock fuel (aircraft refuel already in the air, immediately after takeoff).

All this, of course, creates serious limitations for the capabilities of the aircraft carrier group. The experience of the use of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Syrian war confirmed that taking off without catapults does not allow using the full capacity of the aircraft, and when attacking ground targets it creates great difficulties.

So the logic of the Jinji Toutyao journalists, who prefer to compare their achievements in this area with the Russian ones, is understandable. After all, even with the mastered technology of night landings and takeoffs, Chinese aircraft carriers are so far hardly able to compete on equal terms with the Americans.



However, in addition to the Americans, there are aircraft carriers and other Chinese rivals in the South China Sea. So, India has two aircraft carriers. One of them - the flagship of the Indian Navy "Vikramaditya", the former heavy aircraft carrier "Admiral Gorshkov", the last deep modernization of the shipyards of the Northern machine-building enterprise in Severodvinsk.

Other historical China’s rival, Japan, has “helicopter destroyers” in the fleet, which are designed to transport helicopters and short or vertical take-off aircraft. In addition, Japan began work on the conversion into the aircraft carrier of the largest Izumo class helicopter carrier, which will be able to carry the F-35B (marine performance), which, according to Tokyo, will provide it with unprecedented dominance in the air and at sea.



All this, in turn, forces Beijing to intensify work on the development of its carrier fleet. In Shanghai, work is already underway to create a third Chinese aircraft carrier, the Type 002. In parallel with this, an atomic aircraft carrier of the Type 003 type with a displacement of 100 thousand tons is being designed. Both new types will be equipped with catapults.



And at the end of the next decade, Beijing expects to have four or five aircraft carriers.

In addition to the creation of aircraft carriers, there is intensive work on the development of a strike submarine fleet and destroyers with guided missile weapons, which will make warrants to Chinese aircraft carriers.



As stated in Beijing, a possible task for the carrier groups would be to “ensure the breakthrough of China’s fleet through the first chain of islands, including Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and the Philippines, and the establishment of China’s influence in the western part of the Pacific Ocean.

The tasks are undoubtedly not simple, and in their context a comparison of their own achievements with the Russian ones, whose plans to build the new aircraft carrier Storm are still very vague, looks like a propaganda trick.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 4 September 2018 12: 07
    +19
    "The publication also proudly emphasizes:" Russia has not dreamed of such technologies yet, they can only look with envy at their eastern brothers. " In the 1978st year in Chelyabinsk, a system was created for the automatic landing of aircraft on an aircraft carrier ... They were stabbing, and now they are proud ... in XNUMX he took part in the development of a hydrofoil stabilization system ... As far as I know, no one can repeat anything like that failed
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 September 2018 12: 13
      +9
      Quote: Vard
      0
      "Also, the publication proudly emphasizes:
      I do not like to read Jerilevsky, so I won’t comment, the author is so-so.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 4 September 2018 12: 26
        0
        The text is nothing .. a lot of photos .. What did the author want to say?
        You can write dissertations on this topic, but here is one "water" (pun intended) ...
      2. Sunjar
        Sunjar 4 September 2018 15: 27
        +1
        The author forgot to recall that the PLA did not participate in serious wars and their armaments (yes even the same aircraft) also did not accept such a challenge as our equipment and weapons. Comparison with the United States is also appropriate, they are actively using their weapons. What is it that such a cool China does not let its modern child prodigies into Syria, but it just threatens everything soon, very soon, just a little more and will direct its forces to Syria. There they would have looked and could have flown their planes as much as ours. Let their military carry out a dozen brilliant operations. It is one thing in one’s own words and in the words of experts to be cool, and it’s another thing to be such in practice. After all, this would be a major political victory. Look, we are really cool, and our weapon is one of the best buy it. Where is all this? Even now, when there’s no one to fight and the risks are minimal, they still don’t connect their troops and weapons.
        1. Alber
          Alber 4 September 2018 20: 32
          +2
          Quote: Sunjar
          cool China does not let its modern child prodigies into Syria, but it just threatens everything soon, very soon, just a little more and will direct its forces to Syria.

          in Syria, China can launch several "small" infantry detachments of 20-30 million fighters each, and they will clean up, filter and deliver cancer in the country, including in the nearest regions without any aviation, naval and other forces
        2. NordOst16
          NordOst16 7 September 2018 12: 10
          -1
          Well, and the Russian army in what serious conflicts for the last time participated? VRV, Korean, Vietnam war?
  2. 2329 Carpenter
    2329 Carpenter 4 September 2018 12: 16
    0
    Whether on the party line, or on the service line, but the chief editor of this "toutyao" will somehow be punished.
    Because smart and weighty people in the PRC must understand that the "Rajah in the North" has, and can, in the event of bad behavior, fly in such that not a single Chinese in the worst Chinese dream dreamed of.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 4 September 2018 16: 03
      +3
      Quote: Carpenter 2329
      in the PRC they should understand that the "Rajah in the North" has, and can, in the event of bad behavior, fly in such that not a single Chinese in the worst Chinese dream dreamed of.

      Obviously they believe that with such a training, not a single rocket will hit them. laughing
  3. Altona
    Altona 4 September 2018 12: 21
    +3
    Boots on sailors are embarrassing. Apparently this is part of their dress uniform. In our country, only coastal ones are sometimes worn. And so the boots or "burnouts". As for "technologies that never dreamed of", the tasks have not yet been set. And if the task is set, then our specialists will do it.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 4 September 2018 22: 55
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Boots on sailors are embarrassing. Apparently this is part of their dress uniform. In our country, only coastal ones are sometimes worn. And so the boots or "burnouts".

      Normally worn submariners, diesel engineers. Especially in winter, when you are standing at the running post in the wheelhouse ... only boots were saved.
  4. lucul
    lucul 4 September 2018 12: 22
    +2
    Well, and another one stops investing not in US government bonds, but invests in its fleet. )))
    1. dumkopff
      dumkopff 5 September 2018 19: 04
      +1
      Nothing that China has nearly 850 billion in US Treasury bonds as part of gold reserves?
  5. EvilLion
    EvilLion 4 September 2018 12: 36
    0
    Boring Chinese, boast a lot, little use.
  6. alstr
    alstr 4 September 2018 13: 05
    +1
    "The publication also proudly emphasizes:" Russia has not dreamed of such technologies yet, they can only look with envy at their eastern brothers. "
    It is necessary to substitute the word "money" instead of the word technology. Then everything will be adequate.
    There would be money (more precisely, their allocation, that is, they are) and aircraft carriers would appear in Russia.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 4 September 2018 13: 36
      +3
      Not only money is not enough. People too. Highly qualified and on such a technique. But China also has nothing to envy - it will have to be long and expensive to build, and it will be difficult to say whether they will justify themselves, since in addition to the current owners of aircraft carriers, others may join the race.
    2. Klaus
      Klaus 4 September 2018 13: 39
      +12


      Here they are, money. Here they are, Russian aircraft carriers ...
      1. Yarhann
        Yarhann 4 September 2018 23: 15
        -3
        og take everything and share ... passed already 100 years ago
      2. Wild ferret
        Wild ferret 5 September 2018 00: 17
        0
        Well, after all, democracy, capitalism and the Market! To which everyone once aspired so. And to write about the plundering of the Country, at the time of the Collapse, even somehow went and is not original. And alas, it was necessary to shoot such people earlier, personally to me (this is my opinion and I do not impose it, I just share it) it seems that now these are only dreams, any really effective measures to "tighten the screws" are impossible: rallies will start instantly, "partners will move "and much more. So this is an accomplished act of History, which cannot be changed, how often do not remember about it.
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 5 September 2018 08: 45
        -4
        Well, people wanted jeans. The people got jeans and everything due. Now no complaints, the yachts were bought by law. Well, there were such laws in 90.
        1. Klaus
          Klaus 5 September 2018 11: 24
          +5
          You don’t sin on the people ... Actually, something often began to sound a hackneyed phrase, they say, the people wanted - the people got it. It is an illusion that people decide such global things. Bialowieza agreements were not signed by the people! The people in a referendum 70% in favor of preserving the USSR.
          1. Klaus
            Klaus 5 September 2018 11: 27
            +3
            And in general, an amazing position: on the one hand - the people are to blame for everything, and on the other - "there is no need to rock the yachts ..."
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 September 2018 13: 56
    +1
    Where you are going to go without Russia, you won’t fly far in yuan, and with catapults you will fall in love without our engineers. They copied, this does not mean that they created a design school, they are only artisans. So don’t give me a gop until you jump over.
  8. Andrew3000
    Andrew3000 4 September 2018 14: 39
    -2
    I wonder what the Chinese aircraft carrier Pi Pi Xia is now called
  9. svp67
    svp67 4 September 2018 14: 47
    -1
    The publication also proudly emphasizes: "Russia has not yet dreamed of such technologies, it only remains for them to look at their eastern brothers with envy."
    I won’t be surprised if this technology has Soviet roots
  10. Santor
    Santor 4 September 2018 15: 31
    +11
    The author chose the poisonous yellow allegedly Chinese portal, geographically located in .. Frankfurt am Main, as the source. Boris Dzhevelevsky himself maintains the site vpk-news.ru, positioning itself as supposedly Russian, but located territorially ... Correctly, in San Francisco. For me, this is not a source of information. The Chinese media, which I monitor, NEVER printed anything offensive to Russia and the Russian armed forces. This is not their style and style. Therefore, I do not see the point of polemicizing with the supposedly Russian troll sitting behind the Big Puddle.
    1. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 4 September 2018 21: 40
      +2
      Well, at least there was an intelligent man, and brought clarity.
      And then I snapped at them with anger, and then I thought: what’s their purpose? It’s too early to brag to them before us ... Yes, and to nothing special.
      Well, then it turns out that.
      The moderators need to be more careful with the authors of the articles.
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 4 September 2018 22: 42
        +2
        Quote: Carpenter 2329
        The moderators need to be more careful with the authors of the articles.

        Jerelivsky is our everything. He regularly vangs about the offensive of the Armed Forces, and this is a favorite topic.
  11. shubin
    shubin 4 September 2018 19: 04
    +2
    You can be ironic as much as you like, but the Chinese over the years of their "perestroika" have done the most important thing - they have brought their economy to first place in the world, but they will buy the rest, as they say.
  12. Normal ok
    Normal ok 4 September 2018 22: 41
    +1
    In recent years, the Russian Navy has replenished with a galaxy of frigates - moderately expensive, small, equipped with the most modern weapons, with excellent seaworthiness,

    Please name all this "galaxy" by name.
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 7 September 2018 11: 46
      0
      touched by the phrase "excellent seaworthiness" ... sailing ships of the 18th century also had excellent seaworthiness, so what?
      We need to talk about goals and objectives. We have the strategic objectives of the ocean fleet, or tactical, of a mosquito. To surf the ocean, anywhere in the world, or coastal swimming near the borders.
      1. Klaus
        Klaus 7 September 2018 11: 50
        0
        If the AUG of the Russian Navy were on duty in the Atlantic, I think that the arrogance of the Americans would be much less
        1. Klaus
          Klaus 7 September 2018 11: 53
          0
          I think that two powerful full-fledged AUGs would be enough: in the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean. And in the Northern Fleet, in general, it’s right to develop a combat icebreaking and submarine fleet
  13. Apollo
    Apollo 7 September 2018 22: 38
    0
    Quote: Vard
    . "In the XNUMXst year in Chelyabinsk, a system for automatic landing of aircraft on an aircraft carrier was created ... Go and go, and now they are proud ...

    And what are we sitting on the stove ourselves?
  14. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 9 September 2018 20: 20
    +1
    As stated in Beijing, a possible task for the carrier groups would be to “ensure the breakthrough of China’s fleet through the first chain of islands, including Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and the Philippines, and the establishment of China’s influence in the western part of the Pacific Ocean.
    Tasks are certainly not easy

    To say the least, impossible for the PLA ....
    The PLA is not capable of resisting the Americans in those environments (against PLARK / NK URO and air defense fighter / attack fighter aircraft), and the US Air Force (located in the Philippines, Kazakhstan, Japan, Thailand and Australia) will always support its Navy, the chain of Chinese islands (including artificial) will be destroyed by the Navy or captured by the ILC of the United States and its allies ....
    However, the PRC has no choice but to make its defense to the far approaches to its country ....
    If the United States sees the fast-growing capabilities of the Chinese Navy, it will link the PLA, some military conflicts with India, or the internal destabilization of the situation in the Uyghur Autonomous Region ...
    1. Santor
      Santor 15 September 2018 10: 12
      0
      Well, they constantly tremble with them in the Uigur region, I don’t remember that it would be calm there .... As for the rest - yes, but now I would have thought .... On paper, the US fleet looks impressive, but in real life they cannot now financially support those groups that they had before ... Much is mothballed, including aircraft at bases in the Philippines. Moreover, President Duarte assured the people that by 22, not a single foreign soldier would be on Philippine soil. Local amers hate. Dismantling is planned for 19 year if the Americans do not make a military coup there. There are now 170 security guards at all bases, 170 in Singapore, 240 personnel in Thailand, 170 security staff in Australia, 500 people in Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, but 50200 in Okinawa and Yokosuka (Japan). At the moment, the tiger is still paper.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 21 September 2018 14: 08
        +1
        Quote: Santor
        170 Australia security staff, 500 people on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean but then 50200 in Okinawa and in Yokosuka (Japan). At the moment, the tiger is still paper.

        Diego Garcia - Indian Ocean

        https://topwar.ru/25528-amerikanskie-aviabazy-smertelnyy-zahvat.html
        http://war1960.ru/vs/diego_garsi.shtml

        Union with the United StatesIn November 2011, US President Barack Obama and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard concluded an agreement announcing plans to deploy USMC units and troops totaling up to 2,5 thousand fighters. They are planning to deploy them at a base near the city of Darwin (this is the capital of the Northern Territory). American combat and auxiliary aircraft, ships and logistics services will also be stationed here. In 2012, the first group of American Marines (about 200 soldiers) arrived in Darwin. By 2014, their number should grow to 1,1 thousand people.
        Washington also announced the possibility of creating a US-Australian naval base on the Cocos Islands in the Indian Ocean. The United States has the ability to deploy aircraft carrier and attack nuclear submarines in the Perth area. In 2012, the Australian Ministry of Defense reported that US reconnaissance aircraft will be able to fly from the Australian island of Keeling (Cocos Islands).

        https://topwar.ru/36331-avstraliyskiy-placdarm-ssha.html
        In general, I agree with you, everything that is in the US in the BV will be transferred to the Asia-Pacific region ...