The unexpected war of Nazi Germany with the USSR. Part of 18. Air defense

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The unexpected war of Nazi Germany with the USSR. Part of 18. Air defense


Introduction. In previous installments, it was shown that intelligence to 22.6.41 provided incorrect information to the country's military-political leadership. The coincidence of the actual number of German formations concentrated near our border at dawn of 22 June, with the number of divisions given in the Republic of Moldova was a purely random event. The leadership of the NKO and the General Staff expected for a full-scale war with the USSR to be concentrated up to the 180 German divisions.



The reconnaissance did not reveal the mobile attack mototank groups of the enemy, as well as the withdrawal of all German forces to the initial positions for the offensive. It can be assumed that the German command was aware of the inertia of the transfer of intelligence information in the KA-NKVD-NKGB system of the USSR, the transfer of which was up to 1-1,5 days.

On the example of the Navy and when looking at events from the Center, the author tried to show that there is not a single fact showing concern about the possible start of a full-scale 22 war in June by the leadership of NGOs and the General Staff.

In the 18 and 19 parts, we will look at publicly available documents and memories of veterans, mainly about air defense. Based on the submissions, try yourself to conclude that the actions in the air defense units before 18 June may indicate an expectation of a full-scale war (and not individual provocations) at dawn 22.6.41. Also, the author will offer to look at the events already reviewed in PribOVO from a different angle.

Air defense. 25.1.41 is issued Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR "On the organization of air defense". The Resolution states: "1. The area threatened by an air attack shall be the territory located from the state border in depth 1200 km. Items and facilities that are outside 1200 km from the state border may be covered by air defense systems by a special decision of the USSR Government ...

4. The leadership of the Air Defense Force shall be assigned: a) in the center to the head of the Main Directorate of the Air Defense Directorate, subordinate to the people's Commissar of Defense; b) in the districts - to the assistant commander of the district troops for air defense
... "

The Decree defines the cities that need to be covered with air defense corps (Moscow, Leningrad, Baku), divisions (Kiev, Lviv) and brigades (Odessa, Riga, Minsk, Belostok, Vilnius, Kaunas, Khabarovsk, Batumi and Drohobych). It also speaks of the formation of 23-x zenap to cover less important cities and 146 ambush with 48 separate chambered machine-gun companies to cover the most important enterprises, power stations, railway nodes and bridges, artillery warehouses with 500 – 2000 capacity of cars, airfield nodes, etc. d.

To effectively use air defense systems, it is necessary to timely detect enemy aircraft. Before the war, this task was assigned to the service of VNOS and radars, of which there were few. Observation posts (NP) VNOS were divided into battalion (BP), company (RP) and NP platoons. In peacetime, only BP and RP were deployed. Thus, the level of operational readiness in the air defense system can be judged on the number of deployed NP VNOS.

During the period of danger and in time of war, the above positions of VNOS were supplemented by NP regiments and divisions of ground forces. In addition, there were subunits and units of a higher level of air-defense facilities subordinate to the command of fleets and flotillas. The main element of the VNOS service was the NP, which usually consisted of seven people: a chief, a deputy and several observers. A telephone served as a means of communication and only in rare cases was a radio station.

For example, in accordance with the Plan of the Western Air Defense Zone, the 2 Company VNOS (8 separate battalion (aboutVNOS) in peacetime could be in three levels of alert, which were called the "Regulations". By 3 position the calculation was constantly serving only on RP. On 2 position exhibited 18 NP, which served 50% personnel. Posts were exhibited for a time not exceeding 4 hours. On 1 position on the NP prepared for work arrived 100% of personnelwhat was assigned no more 8 hours. In the event of the outbreak of war, most of the NPs provided for the construction of 15 ... 20-meter towers. Construction logs were stockpiled and stockpiled in advance.

T.P.Kargopolov (Head of the Communication Service Department of the Military-Electric Academy, from 08.1941 - Head of Communication of the North-Western direction): “Corps and divisions of PribOVO had communications units and subunits equipped with communications according to the timesheets. In addition to the command communication in PribOVO, before the war, the communication of the VNOS service was widely organized. For this connection, radio stations were allocated from all parts, duty was established... ”The lack of information does not allow one to say: how well the posts of VNOS OdVO, KOVO and ZOVOVO were equipped with radio stations. July 2, at the headquarters of the South-Western Front, addresses the issue of the lack of efficiency in the transmission of information on the air situation and on the equipping of the VNOS posts with radio stations.

The VNOS system of the border districts (with its full deployment) created a continuous field of visual observation of the airspace in the border area of ​​150-250 km depth and around the country's most important objects of 60-120 km depth.

N.N.Voronov (with 19.6.41 - head of the Main Department of Air Defense of the Spacecraft): "There are always a lot of difficulties in a new job, but this time they were especially numerous. Most worried that some military comrades did not understand the meaning of air defense in modern conditions. From the very first days, much seemed to be delivered in a different way than it should be ... The air defense command and control system was very unclear. So, for example, the entire VNOS service was under the direct supervision of the Main Directorate of Air Defense ..., and all active air defenses were subordinated to the commander of the military establishment and only for special training issues - to the head of the Main Directorate of the Air Defense. This ... did not contribute to clarity and efficiency in managing... "

Please note that the head of the General Staff allowed the leadership of various air defense units deployed in the border districts along different lines of command and control: the air-defense units were subordinated to the Air Defense Directorate, and anti-aircraft artillery, searchlight units and air forces were assigned the task of air defense, IN.

P.A. Sudoplatov: "Our losses were largely due to the low level of combat readiness of the Air Force and air defense to repel the attack. In violation of the basic provisions of the charters on the protection of airfields and strategic warehouses were not even deployed duty firing means... »

The organization of air defense airfields left much to be desired. Of the standard air defense systems at the airdromes, there were three quad anti-aircraft machine-gun mounts that were part of the airdrome-technical battalion. Installations were not available in all battalions. In addition, the battalion could provide work aviation at the main airfield and additionally at 1-2 field sites. Therefore, anti-aircraft machine-gun installations were not enough to cover aircraft at airfields, on field sites, and also to carry out air defense of airfield structures (fuel and weapon depots, etc.).

The directive of NGOs from 25.4.41 provided for the formation of anti-aircraft artillery batteries for the defense of airfields and other objects of the 166 Air Force, but this solution was practically not implemented due to the lack of military equipment. 7.6.41 GSH again raises the issue of the allocation of air defense batteries to cover the airfields, but again there is a shortage of anti-aircraft weapons. Inland districts will only respond to this document from June 22-23.

In ZOVOVO, KOVO, OdVO, it was problematic to isolate the air defense batteries from the defense of cities, which should be protected in accordance with the Decree of the CPC. In accordance with the “Cover Plans ...”, the districts were supposed to additionally provide air defense for the warehouses, troop concentrations, road and railway bridges, and railway stations through which the troops were to arrive for subsequent deployment. Therefore, in the districts to cover the objects defined in the "Plans for the cover ...", anti-aircraft battalions (batteries) were withdrawn from the troops (cd and ck).

Air defense divisions (in some cases, batteries, companies, platoon), so were individually involved in the protection of important objects. There were no batteries in the VO, even to cover the main airfields. A certain part of the main airfields was covered by air defense units engaged in anti-aircraft defense of the cities, near which these airfields were located.

PC from the headquarters of LVO (16.4.41): "Commander 19 ck. Back to 142 sd to change the backside of 115 sd to leave on air defense w / Hitola’s node... »

PC from 11 ck (15-30 21.6.41): "Commander 8 Army. 125 and 48 sd anti-aircraft weapons are not fully equipped. According to your order, the back cabinet is returned back to Shavli. Thus the grouping of artillery and reserve regiments remains uncovered by anti-aircraft weapons. I ask for permission to remove 39 from Shavli and cover the combat order of the corps... "

The 133 detachment of the machine gun battalion from the 10 air defense brigade for the defense of the objects had to be unleashed in a row and platoon manner. RCB 133 zen.otd.pul.bat: "18.6.41. Received PC to martial status №2 ...

19.6.41. A military order was received to send a company of DShK to Ponevezhets to defend the front headquarters ...

20.6.41. The task of the battalion is the same. The companies were engaged in the schedule

21.6.41. A military order was received to send one company to the town of Trishkiai. security warehouse №618 ...

21.6.41. A military order was received to send one platoon in Lunachai to defend a warehouse ...

22.6.41 The task of the battalion is the same. Aviation fighting over Riga was not
... "

In PribOVO, they even seized one antiaircraft 40-mm “Bofors” cannon battery from the parks of national divisions and raised an assigned squad familiar with this technique.

In VO, the situation was aggravated by the conduct of live firing in the camps of air defense units in accordance with plans approved by the General Staff. Anti-aircraft artillery battalions and batteries were taken to camps, weakening the cover of objects. In case of bringing the air defense units and formations on high alert, considerable time was required for the return of these units to the permanent deployment sites (RPM) and their subsequent installation in firing positions (OP).

General G.K. Zhukov, in addition to managing the work of the General Staff, was also responsible for directing the work of the Central Department of Air Defense, the Communications Directorate, the Fuel Supply Directorate and the General Staff Military Academy. The absence of a centralized order from the General Staff from its chief to transfer air defense compounds to operational readiness No. 2 indicates once more that June 20-21 GK Zhukov did not particularly expect the war: it is likely to blow ...

It should be noted that the head of the General Staff “overwhelmed the work” of all the structures supervised: anti-aircraft defense (troops and airfields were not covered, there was a big shortage of projectiles for anti-aircraft systems of the 37 and 85-mm caliber, and at meetings only the lack of large-caliber projectiles was mentioned) , communications (before the war, the order was not issued to deploy army regiments of communication. The hardware for them was largely destroyed in warehouses or was given to the Germans. Also, in peacetime, there was no order to deploy individual battalions and communications companies). The decision to transfer instructions on bringing the border forces of the VO into combat readiness only through encryption, without informing the Military Councils of the districts of the very meaning of Directive No. XXUMX, indicates its incompetence or disbelief at the beginning of the war at dawn on June 1. The disadvantages associated with the location of the warehouses and the amount of fuel and lubricants in the districts were often mentioned in different forums and the author will not repeat.

In accordance with the orders of the People's Commissars of the NKO and the NKVD No. 0188 and No. 0277 from 28.5.41 is introduced “Instructions for interaction and relationship between the air defense organs of non-profit organizations and the local anti-aircraft bodies of the NKVD of the USSR'"1. Exercise introducing an air-threatened position on the territory of the USSR produced on the instructions of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR Chief of (PG) Air Defense... »

Further, the Instructions talk about the procedure for imposing a threatened position on an air attack in the territories and about the interaction of the air defense agencies of the NKO with the local anti-personnel bodies of the NKVD. In the Instructions there is only one point, on the basis of which the assistant commander for air defense can enter a blackout: “In wartime, the commanders of the respective zones and areas, as well as the heads of the NKO air defense units, make decisions on changing the blackout regime in their zone, area or point based on the specific current air situation. The commanders of zones and districts and the heads of the NKO air defense stations give instructions on changing the dimming mode to the appropriate NKVD local anti-aircraft defense authorities for execution... »

The fact is that martial law in border areas was not announced even after sending Directive No. XXUMX, which was sent only to military units of NGOs, NKVMF and did not affect the organs of the NKGB, the NKVD, the Soviet and other civilian authorities. In his memoirs, the head of the Air Defense Department of the Spacecraft does not say a word that he was aware of the commencement of events in the air defense section in accordance with Directive No. XXUMX, and therefore parts of the VNOS operated in peacetime mode (mostly BP and RP were deployed). This led to the fact that enemy aircraft were detected only near objects and time to respond to anti-aircraft artillery units, and even more so to air defense fighters almost did not remain. And in what case can this fact take place? According to the author, only in the event that provocations are expected and a significant aggravation of the situation will not occur in the future. The guns will talk, and the case will be handed over to diplomats to determine the economic concessions of Germany by the USSR.

Completely different events occur in the air defense units of the NKVMF, which we considered in the 12 part. I would just like to add about the air defense units of the Black Sea Fleet. The 61 th zenap of the Crimean sector of the air defense of the Black Sea Fleet for 3 watches 22 June turned into readiness №1. 22.6.41 11 Battalion VNOS Black Sea Fleet deployed 54 NP on the territory of the Crimea peninsula. The battalion was armed with radars of the type RUS-1 and RUS-2.

RUS-1 stationed:

- one set - Cape Chersonesos (transmitting facility), Cape Tarkhankut, Evpatoria, Landslide (receiving stations);

- the second set - Cape Ay-Yudag (transmitting installation), Feodosia, Alushta, Yalta (receiving stations).

РУС-2 was deployed in Sevastopol in the Round Bay and on Cape Fiolent.

At 1-30 June 22, the radars of the VNOS battalion, located at Cape Tarkhankut and Fiolent, found planes bound for Sevastopol. Thus, the timely detection of German aircraft in the air near Sevastopol was facilitated precisely by radars, which gave a lot of time for making a difficult decision to open fire by the leadership fleet...

N.N.Voronov: "A wide network of VNOS posts reported in detail about all the flights of German reconnaissance aircraft over the territory of our border districts. These data were put on special cards and immediately reported to the General Staff. Very often we were answered: “We already know. Do not worry…" Late evening [21.6.41] VNOS began to receive messages from the western borders that the Germans had an increased noise of motors in various directions ... We passed information to the General Staff. However no new orders have been received. All night we did not sleep. News from the borders came more and more alarming. Around 4 hours received the first message about the bombing of the enemy aircraft of Sevastopol. Soon through VNOS information was received on the air raids on Vindava and Libau.... "

It turns out that Directive No. 1 contradicts the above instruction, since martial law has not been introduced. In the Instructions there is a mention that the structure of the MNP, the indication of the introduction of a threatened position comes through the NKVD. In this case, the assistant commander for air defense required make surethat such an order has come. The inconsistency of the Directives of the NKO and the NKVD with the required actions on the alarm led in Sevastopol and in Leningrad to the fact that the blackout was introduced not by signals, but by administrative methods: by simply turning off the breakers. This required more time for the event. A similar situation should occur in other cities.

Looking at the orders of the People's Commissar of Defense, it is clear that if the activities are affected by other people's commissariats besides the NPOs, then this issue is discussed at a meeting of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR with the issuance of the relevant Decree. In this case, the introduction of a threatened position on an air attack was possible only after receiving approval from the country's leadership. It is possible that the country's leadership and NPOs considered that it was necessary to introduce this provision only in a part of the territory of the border districts without the involvement of the MPO teams and civil organizations.

In the books describing air defense troops in the initial period of the war, there is the text: “By the morning of June 22, almost all the anti-aircraft artillery units of the air defense, located in a strip of width 200-250 km along the western border of the USSR, turned on the OP... »

What is alarming in this text? The first is the phrase: "By the morning of June 22 at the alarm signal ... turned on the OP". And until the morning of June 22, anti-aircraft artillery units were not deployed at the OP and were located in the RPM and at the test sites?

And second, in accordance with the Decree of the CPC: "The zone threatened by the air attack [should] be considered as the territory located from the state border in depth 1200 km... "

The logical question is: if, according to some literary figures, the leadership of NGOs is waiting for a full-scale 22 war of June, then why is an air attack expected only in the zone 200-250 km depth? And not to great depth? According to the author, this is due to the expectation of provocations by German generals in certain areas.

The indecision of the highest command of the spacecraft contributed to the suppression of the initiative of the majority of district and army commanders. The leadership of PribOVO, in contrast to the command of the SV and the Military Councils of other districts, took on this responsibility in part.

Some literary figures (for example, science fiction writer Kozinkin) claim in their writings that even before the war with Germany, the air defense and district air forces had been transferred to operational readiness (OG) No. XXUMX, allegedly, according to certain directives of the General Staff. However, no one can submit a link to this document. This is an invisible document or a non-existent (made-up) document. Many people know about this document or are sure that it exists. In the documents that are in the public domain, or in the memoirs of the war veterans, there is practically no mention of the introduction of exhaust gas No. 2 for air defense formations and units (except for PribOVO). In the rest of the VO, only on-duty batteries are on combat duty, but this is not a mandatory sign of exhaust gas No. XXUMX - this may be the exhaust gas No. XXUMX. All of these versions are based only on documents by PribOVO or in other words - based on their conjectures ...

What is the difference between different degrees of exhaust gas? Naturally, it manifests itself in the amount of anti-aircraft artillery weapons at the OP, prepared to ensure the opening of fire, in the standards for bringing all ground-based weapons to a combat position. The main difference is that in the case of the ExAct No. XXUMX, all ground facilities are deployed, which are serviced by reduced personnel. When the assigned structure in the air defense unit rises and arrives, they are transferred to FH No. XXUMX. In case of exhaust gas No.2, not all air defense weapons can be displayed on the OP.

In the presented cycle, the author substantiates his point of view that many orders of the PribOVO commanders were their personal initiative. For example, the transfer of air defense PribOVO to OG No. XXUMX is a personal initiative of the NS PribOVO PS Klenov and commander of the troops F. I. Kuznetsov. What are the reasons for this, and in general, were these commanders inclined to take personal (private) initiative on the eve of the war?

Consider the well-known Order to the troops of PribOVO No. 0052 from 15.6.41 “On the masking of airfields and equipment”. Order out four days until a similar order from the Commissar of Defense: "Airplanes at airfields should be dispersed and camouflaged in forests, bushes, not allowing formation in a line, but at the same time maintaining full readiness for departure. Parks tank units and artillery to disperse, place in the forests, carefully camouflage, while maintaining the ability to assemble in due time on alarm... »

We have already encountered a similar situation in the NKVMF, when the degree of OG No. XXUMX was actually introduced in the Federation Council per day before entering this degree on the CBF and BSF. It is no coincidence that the majority of publicly available literary sources distort the date of the introduction of EG No. 2 on the SF from June 18 to June 19, since this goes against the accepted theory of the realization of events.

The author has already said that, probably, a similar initiative was made by the leadership of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet before the NKVMF and the People's Commissar allowed the Baltic Fleet to switch to OG No. XXUMX. Perhaps only after this, the People's Commissar gives instructions to the Military Council of the Black Sea Fleet about the preservation of OG No. XXUMX after the end of the exercise. In this case, the People's Commissar ventured to endorse the initiative from the bottom of the two fleets and referring to their arguments (on the introduction of OG No. XXUMX) ordered the retention of OG No. XXUMX for the Black Sea Fleet.

It is possible that the order of the People's Commissar of Defense against June 19 was, by analogy, a consequence of the reaction of the NKO and the General Staff to the initiative of the PribOVO Military Council. Is it possible? Looking at the events in the NKVMF, you can answer: perhaps ... True, there are two more versions: this is a simple coincidence of facts or the good intuition of the Pribovo management about the future desires of the command of the spacecraft ...

It is very strange that no similar documents in other border HE. To not write individual literary figures: none of them will not provide you with a single disproving document or a link in the archive to it. They will present a lot of information (speculation), not supported by concrete evidence ...

Or an order on the distribution of PribOVO aviation to field sites? In accordance with the Directive of PribOVO headquarters from 18.6.41, an order was prepared by the commander of the Air Force of the District A.P. Ionova about relocation, dispersal and camouflage of aircraft. On the basis of this order, squadrons of some air regiments were redeployed to operational airfields. True, this did not happen hastily, since according to intelligence data of the district of the German troops directly near the border, there were extremely few, mobile mototank groups were absent and therefore no one did not expect the beginning of the war (until evening 21.6.41) at the dawn of June 22.

Something similar happened with the Air Force and in the OdVO. However, the ongoing preparations for the redeployment of PribOVO and OdVO aviation have no common features and dates, nor do they resemble what happened to the BBC in KOVO and Zapovo (we will consider events in these districts in the respective parts). How is this possible within the framework of the AC, where, as some readers say, everything is done only by order from above? This is possible only in the only case if these activities were not centralized and not on a single instruction from Moscow. In other words, on the initiative of individualswho urged the needs of these activities military district councils.

Or an order to deploy anti-aircraft units under the guise of June 17 exercises. Headquarters 2 th zenap 20-00 17.6.41: "In connection with the upcoming 10 Brigade drills, the Air Defense Brigade was ordered to take up a military order with the task of organizing the air defense of Riga ... 2-zenap with 21-00 17.6.41 through 7-00 18.6.41... »

The 10 air defense brigade is being deployed at the OP since June 17, and not all antiaircraft weapons were in positions before the indicated number. The position displays all the means of the brigade.

2 th zenap after the withdrawal of the OP on them and remained until the beginning of the war. The order for the regiment in 5-00 22.6.41 says: "2-th zenap who took an 18.6.41 battle order according to the battle order No. 1 from 17.6.41... "and then the combat task is put to the regiment.

RCB 2 zenap: "3-50 22.6.41. According to reports of VNOS posts that a group of German bombers were moving in the direction of Mitavy, the regiment was alerted and the regiment began to fulfill the task of defending the city of Riga... »

Also interesting is the Order to the troops PribOVO No. XXUMX from 18.6.41: "With the aim of bringing the theater of military operations to the quickest readiness of the district, I order:

1. Lead the air defense commander to the end of 19.6.41 on full alert all district air defense, for which:

a) organize round the clock duty on all posts of VNOS and ensure them continuous communication;

b) make all anti-aircraft artillery and searchlight batteries, assigning round-the-clock duty on batteries, arranging uninterrupted communication with the posts, carefully preparing them in engineering and providing fire-fighting equipment;

c) to organize the interaction of fighter aircraft with anti-aircraft units;

d) to organize uninterrupted communication of VNOS posts with fighter aviation aerodromes ... Before 21.6.41, together with the local air defense, organize: blackout cities: Riga, Kaunas, Vilnius, Dvinsk, Mitava, Libava, Siauliai, fire fighting in them medical assistance victims and identify the premises that can be used as bomb shelters
... »

What can be seen in the presented text of the order?

1) The order states that the air defense system is on full alert (OG No. 1). Consequently, the question of raising the bonuses for air defense units is being considered. Such a question is not addressed in any other HE.

2) All VNOS posts and all anti-aircraft artillery in PribOVO are transferred to round-the-clock watch. It turns out that previously not all VNOS posts were on duty around the clock, i.e. were in peacetime mode, when all the NPs are not deployed. Not all anti-aircraft artillery was on the OP. In PribOVO, deployment of VNOS posts, including NP of platoons, is underway. But this should be because the order of the Chief of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the KA? .. The district leadership deliberately goes for this violation

The organization of continuous and uninterrupted communication is provided. This means that to civilian communications as part of wartime events soldiers arrive to monitor the transfer of air messages.

3) It is planned to carry out activities to darken large cities in the Baltic States. The term is later, because This event must be coordinated with the NKVD and the state authorities. We remember that in accordance with the "Instruction ..." the said event can be held by the assistant commander of the district only in wartime, but there is still no wartime anywhere except in the territory of PribOVO ...

On the same day, for the air defense units of Pribovo, a clarifying order is issued on reducing the degree of readiness and on the return of units from the camps. There is an interruption of studies of air defense units in the camps, which is carried out according to plans agreed with the General Staff: “Commander ordered: 1. The air defense units of the zone, the VNOS battalions and the air defense systems of military formations and units accept readiness No. XXUMX (enhanced combat readiness) ...

3. Air defense units located in the camps, including military, immediately return to the PPD ...

6. Availability 18-00 19 June 1941. Execution to convey 20-00 19.7.41
... »

And again in the above order there are activities that, according to the above terms, do not have similar actions in KOVO and ZOVOVO. Even in OdVO part of the anti-aircraft artillery units arrives from the camps 22 23 and June.

What is the reason for the decrease in readiness? Most likely, the management of PribOVO did not receive permission to raise the assigned composition for air defense units, and without the additional composition there can only be OG No. XXUMX.

On the basis of the order of the PribOVO headquarters, a Resolution is issued by 20.6.41, which says including. about the darkening of Riga. Information about this is brought to the Chief of the General Staff through the chief of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the Spacecraft Voronov. Similar information should have been communicated through the NKVD and civilian authorities to the country's leadership. We do not know how Stalin reacted to this ...

N.N.Voronov: "By order of the commander of the troops PribOVO F.I. Kuznetsov, the blackout of cities and individual objects of military significance was introduced. Immediately, by telephone, I reported this to the head of the General Staff G. Zhukov in order to receive permission to conduct such blackouts. and in other border districts. In response, I heard abuse and threats against Kuznetsov. After some time, Commander PribOVO was instructed to cancel this order.... "

The head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense KA directly says that no such measures were taken in other districts.

District leadership lasted about half a day. The next day, the reaction of the Chief of the General Staff follows (which, as we already know, in official duties, among other things, led the Air Defense Directorate and was obliged to know the basic documents): “You without the approval of the Commissar given an order on air defense to put into action provisions №2 - it means to black out in the Baltic Statesthan and damage the industry. Such actions can only be carried out by government decision..»

The head of the General Staff unequivocally says that the introduction of the provision number 2 (FG number 2) is carried out only under the sanction of the People's Commissar of Defense, who did not give such a decision on June 21.

Also the head of the General Staff says that the introduction OG No. XXUMX automatically leads to the implementation of measures to darken cities, and blackout can be carried out only by decision of the Government. The decision on the blackout (on the introduction of exhaust gas number 2) because it affects different departments should be carried out by decision (decree) of the CPC. Until 21 June inclusive, the government did not consider this issue and, therefore, permission to introduce OG No. 2 did not give ... Therefore, in other districts, parts Air Defense could not be in the degree of OG number XXUMX, but only in FG No. 3 or to be in the PPD or in the camps. It turns out that the command of PribOVO led its air defense units (including VNOS) in OG number 2 on their own initiative knowing that Moscow’s reaction would follow.

Continued SHT from GSH: "Now your order causes a variety of rumors and unnerves the public.

[If less than a day is expected by the leadership of the NPO and the General Staff War, then what does it matter, and if not expected, it is very significant.]

I demand to cancel immediately illegal order and give an explanation for the report to the Commissar. Chief of General Staff, General of the Army Zhukov»

The management of PribOVO, obeying the request of the Chief of the General Staff, cancels the blackout, but OG No. 2 does not remove the air defense from the parts of the basic documents. From the headquarters of PribOVO to the subordinate associations, the deputy chief of the operative department, Colonel Kinosyan, sends a telegram about the cancellation of the blackout.

However, the leadership of PribOVO nevertheless decides to reintroduce the blackout (blackout) of the troops and military garrisons, without affecting the garrisons in the cities. In 14-30 21.6.41, from PribOVO headquarters, the following PCs are sent: “The commander of the 8, 11 and 27 armies. Starting from tonight until a special order to introduce a blackout in the garrisons and locations of troops. Provide motor transport with black-out equipment. To organize a thorough control over the quality of blackout. Pay special attention to the state of camouflage troops and air surveillance. Colonel Carlin". Colonel Karlin is the assistant commander of the district’s air defense forces.

PC entered the 8 Army's headquarters in 19-25, it was decrypted in 20-00 and reported to 20-35 in the NS Larionov. On the fields of PC there is a resolution of Larionov: "21.6.41 20-35 Colonel Smirnov [head of the army headquarters] Specify: what to believe - this PC or transferred by Kinosyan?»

The contradictory instructions, the alarming situation at the border, which is accompanied by the flow of telegrams, leads to the fact that from the above-mentioned PCs they work in the army headquarters until 23-00. Only after the specified time and clarification of information in the PribOVO headquarters are prepared PCs for sending to the headquarters of the corps (sent around 1-45 22.6.41): "Commanders 10, 11 SC 12 MK Colonel Omelchenko. The army commander ordered: starting from tonight to introduce a blackout of the garrisons and the locations of army units. The movement of vehicles with shaded or extinguished headlights. Organize a thorough control of the quality of the blackout. Pay special attention to the state of camouflage troops and air surveillance. Do not produce the blackout of the garrisons of Taurogen and Shavli... »

A few hours after the arrival of the SS from the General Staff in PribOVO about the cancellation of the blackout, the People's Commissar of Defense talks to the Commander PribOVO, which N.N.Yakovlev witnessed about 15 hours (the head of the GAU) witnessed: “21.6.41 about 14 hours arrived in Moscow. Literally an hour later, the People's Commissar of Defense presented himself ... SK Tymoshenko. In the office of the People's Commissar just was the head of the General Staff ... G.K. Zhukov…

During our short conversation from Riga just called the commander of the troops PribOVO General F. I. Kuznetsov. The People's Commissar rather strictly asked him if it was true that they, Kuznetsov, had been ordered to introduce a blackout in Riga. And in the affirmative answer ordered to cancel it
... »

Please note that when the People's Commissar speaks with the Commander of PribOVO, it is only about canceling the order to darken Riga. Commissar does not give any other instructions and explanations. The People's Commissar does not address the question of the arbitrariness of the district leadership regarding the introduction of air defense units No. XXUMX, the duty of the representatives of the NKVD anti-aircraft defense, the withdrawal of all air defense weapons at the OP, final equipment of anti-aircraft munitions at the OP, etc. Leadership of non-profit organizations and the General Staff avoided making decisions on "slippery" issues. It only resolved a political issue affecting the economy, while military affairs were left to the District Military Council. Below is the traffic police page of the 2 Brigade of Air Defense PribOVO.



Of stories 250 OSAD RGC (part of the 10 air defense brigade): "1The alarm division of 8.6.41 began at the OP for the defense of the eastern part of Riga... »

Currently, there is almost no information on mobilization in 20-00 21 June in PribOVO, which is mentioned in the OBD. Also, the meaning of the notation “*". However, in the part of the form it is mentioned that 44 headquarters about VNOS (subordinated to the district): “In 20-00 21.6.41, the battalion headquarters received a general mobilization telegram and conscripted the conscription of the battalion. Before the attack, the number of 44 personnel reached: 39 commanders, 420 sergeants and privates... "Total in the list of 459 listed people.

44 about VNOS had a staff of 0050 / 26, for which he was assigned 846 people, and in peacetime, 248 people. The number of assigned composition is 596 people. By the beginning of hostilities at dawn on 22 June, 44 211 people of the assigned squadron arrived at 21 after the announcement of the mobilization. The author managed to find a mention only of two facts of the increase of the assigned composition in the PribOVO XNUMX June air defense units, which were presented above. It turns out that the district administration took a reasonable initiative in planning events in the district for which no orders were given by the NKO or the General Staff.

It should be noted that the historian Mark Solonin in his materials he noted about the events on the eve of the war in PribOVO: “...Nothing like this can be found in the archival funds of the Leningrad, Western, Kiev and Odessa districts (respectively, of the Northern, Western, South Western and Southern fronts). Persistently fails. And it is very strange - how within the framework of one country and one army could such a difference arise in the dates and dates of bringing the troops on high alert?.. "

S.L.Cekunov I allowed to refer to him in terms of the assertion that a number of events taking place in PribOVO before the war have no analogues in other Western districts. It should also be noted that S.S.Chekunov, who currently has the most complete knowledge of the events on the eve of the war, was very skeptical of the materials of the author ...

In the 12 part, a description of the degrees of exhaust gas for the Navy was presented. In terms of air defense readiness, different terms were used. For example, in the PribOVO documents the term “Readiness No. 2” is used. Naturally, there should be a readiness number 3 and a readiness number 1. The term “Readiness No. 1” is also mentioned in the documents of the 3 Zenap ZakVO.

The terms “1 position” and “1 position”, which corresponded to OG No. 2 and No. 1, respectively, were used in the ZOVOVO, 2 air defense and ZakVO corps. These terms were used in air defense units during the war years.

Cbd 1-I Zenit. Machine-gun Division: "20.8.43 24-00. During the day part of the division were in position number XXUMX. Enemy aviation in the division did not appear ...

22.8.43 8-22. Divisions announced position number XXUMX. 8-24. Position No.1 is declared on 12, 13, 15, 16, 17 shelves and Separate ZPPB. From the West to Moscow at a height of 12000 meter. enemy scout U-86P approached
... "

In the 2 Air Defense Corps, which covered Leningrad, the term “Alarm No. XXUMX” is used, which probably corresponds to OG No. XXUMX. During the Soviet-Finnish war and after the declaration of Finland by the USSR war, the terms “Combat option” with numbers from 3 to 1 are used. "Fight option # 1" corresponds to OG # 4.

Temporary standards and activities for specific provisions were worked out in each HE individually. Readiness for opening fire was established by the operational plans of the air defense points. For example, for fighters, the following standards were set for departure: “Willingness number XXUMX. Duty units - at the start of the 1 min in the summer and 3 min in the winter. The duty is set on alert, or with the introduction of a threatened position.

Willingness number XXUMX. The duty unit is on a daily basis 2 minutes in the summer and 10 minutes in the winter.

Willingness number XXUMX. The whole regiment 3 hour in the summer and 1 hours in the winter, on alert.
.. "

Regulations for anti-aircraft artillery: "Position No. 1. All batteries are ready for immediate opening fire.

Position No. 2. In each division, one battery is ready to open fire through 30 with., The rest - through 3 min.

Position No. 3. In each division, one battery is ready to open fire through 30 with., The rest - through 10 min.
.. ».

During the war, standards were somewhat tougher. According to "Command instructions of the Leningrad Army Air Defense ... 1.9.43'"The combat readiness of air defense. To prevent sudden enemy air strikes, establish the following combat readiness of air defense systems:

...fighter aircraft. Willingness number XXUMX. Taking off into the air is no more than 1 a minute.

Willingness number XXUMX. In the summer, take off in 2-3 minutes, in the winter, take off in 4-5 minutes.

Willingness number XXUMX. Departure in 3-15 minutes.

Note. By order of the commander of the fighter flight in each unit, duty units are appointed, regardless of the readiness established for it, which must be in readiness No. XXNX.

Medium-caliber anti-aircraft artillery. Willingness number XXUMX. All 1% funds are in readiness for the immediate opening of fire.

Willingness number XXUMX. One third of all batteries are in alert No. XXUMX. The rest of the rest or are engaged according to plan.

Willingness number XXUMX. One fifth of all batteries are in alert # XXNX. The rest of the rest or are engaged according to plan.

Notes: 1. On duty units readiness to open fire immediately, the rest no more than 1 minutes.

2. For the average caliber set readiness number 4, for which the duty is not assigned. All means FOR the readiness to open fire with no more than 1 minutes. By readiness number XXUMX on all batteries FOR have a reinforced guard.

MZA and anti-aircraft machine guns. Willingness number XXUMX. All 1% funds are on alert for immediate opening fire.

Willingness number XXUMX. Half guns (machine guns) in each battery (company), the platoon is in readiness №2. The rest of the rest or are engaged according to plan.

Willingness number XXUMX. One third of the guns (machine guns) in each battery (company), the platoon is in readiness No. XXUMX. The rest of the rest or are engaged according to plan.
... "

Before the war, all ground-based air defense systems were not permanently on the OP. Temporary standards for their deployment were indicated in the "Cover Plans ..." As an example, below is an extract from "Plans ... "KOVO: "1. The Rivne brigade area ... The readiness of ground-based air defense systems when the 3 hours are located in apartments, when entering the camps is 48 hours ... Observation and notification in the territory of the Rivne district of the district is carried out by the 29 on ATTM ...

2. Lviv divisional area ... Readiness of air defense units when parked in apartments for 3 hours, and when entering the camps - 30 hours. Monitoring and notification on the territory of Lviv district of the districts is carried out by 19-th about VNOS ...

3. Stanislavsky brigade district ... Readiness when located in the 1-1,5 apartments for an hour when entering the camps from 21 to 27 hours. Monitoring and alerting is performed by 4-th about VNOS ...

4. Tarnopolsky brigade area ... Readiness with the location of an hour in apartments 3, at the exit to the camps from 6 to 24 hours. Observation is carried out by 43-th about VNOS ...

5. Zhytomyr brigade area ... Readiness when it is located on the 2 hours of apartments, when entering the 15 camps for hours. Monitoring and alerting is performed by 22-th about VNOS ...

6. Vinnitsa brigade district ... Readiness - 1 hour. Monitoring and alerting is performed by 14-th about VNOS ...

7. Kiev divisional area ... Readiness when located in apartments - hours ..., when leaving the camps: 3-I Air Defense Division - 14 hours, 135 and 141 hours - 24 hours. Observation and notification is carried out by the 4-th regiment VNOS
... "

The readiness of KOVO ground-based air defense systems to reach their intended positions is:

- when located in apartments - from 1 to 3 hours;

- while staying in camps - from 6 to 48 hours.

For different HE these standards are comparable. Working with the “Plans ...” of different districts, the head of the General Staff was obliged to know the order of time required for the withdrawal of anti-aircraft weapons from the SP to the SP or from the camps. However, by the end of the day 21 Jun is enough a lot of anti-aircraft artillery units were on the ground. If the head of the General Staff was surethat the war will start at dawn 22 June, then why im Was not the order for their immediate return from the camps? He could give such an order without the sanction of the CPC, since combat training plans are not coordinated with the indicated authority. However, this was done only in PribOVO.

The situation is similar with the artillery units that were engaged in training according to plans approved by the General Staff. The leadership of the NKO and the General Staff did not issue an order for their return to the unions and associations. According to the author, the finding of units on the testing grounds once again indicates that the high command of the spacecraft did not expect the full-scale 22.6.41 war.

In order to assess the state of air defense in western military units, we first consider what happened on the night of June 22 in the air defense units of one of the rear border districts - ZakVO.

Crf Headquarters Transcaucasian Air Defense Zone: "5-30 22.6.41g. Half of the composition of the 3 units of the air defense corps, two 45 OZAD batteries and 60 detachment of the submarine-machine-gun company were located in the Pumping Camp. Two-thirds of the 415 air defense regiment, 443 air defense regiment, 380, 381, 388 ambush, 61, 62, 63 and 64 zenpulroty were stationed in the Vaziani camps. Two-thirds of the 8 air defense brigade, 151 and 365 fire brigade were launched for artillery fire in the area near the city of Batumi. The commander of the air defense zone, Major General of Artillery, Comrade Tykin, was in Baku, and the National Air Defense Zone, Colonel Comrade Pluzhnikov, in Batumi.

In 5-30 22.6.41. NS ZakVO, Major General t.Tolbukhin personally handed the order to the commander of the 3 air defense corps to deploy units and withdraw them from the camps to combat positions
... "

At the OP of the Transcaucasian air defense zone was about 1 / 3 anti-aircraft. At this amount of anti-aircraft weapons, personnel could not be on alert around the clock. The remaining parts on the OP could be only in the Regulation №3.

RCB 485 zenap: "22.6.41 received a mobilization telegram on 20-00. During the 23 and 24 of June, the regiment was mobilized by personnel and vehicles... "

I.G. Melnikov: "I was sent to the Transcaucasian Air Defense Zone, in the city of Batumi, where they identified the 8 zenith artillery brigade, which covered the Batumi refinery and port. In the summer of 1941, we were thrown out ... to the summer camp ... 21 June 1941, we were released to the nearby Batumi. And we, four young lieutenants, went into the city, spent the night there, and on Sunday, without any ulterior motive, we began to slowly go to the unit, and then at noon we heard on the radio that the war with Germany had begun... "

Transcaucasian air defense zone at dawn 22.6.41 continues to live in peacetime mode. It should not be thought that German aviation could not reach the Caucasian coast of the Black Sea. On the night of 23 June, 1941 of the 454 X Zenap guns (Novorossiysk) opened fire on a German reconnaissance aircraft, and then on planes that intended to block the port by laying mines.

And what happened in the air defense units that covered the capital of our Motherland and Comrade Stalin personally?

Commander of the Moscow VO I.V.Tyulenev writes: “В noon Poskrebyshev called me from the Kremlin: “Comrade Stalin will talk to you ...”

In the tube I heard a deaf voice: “Comrade Tyulenev, what about the Moscow air defense?” I briefly reported to the head of the government about the air defense measures taken today, June 21. In response, I heard: “Consider, the situation is restless, and you should bring combat readiness of the Moscow air defense troops to 75%... I got the impression that Stalin received new alarming information about the plans of Nazi Germany. I immediately gave the appropriate orders his air defense assistant, Major General MS Hulk
... »

N.G. Kuznetsov (Commissar of the Navy): "Not so long ago I heard from General of the Army I.V. Tyulenev - at that time he commanded the MVO - that June 21 around 2 hours of the day he was called by I.V. Stalin and demanded to increase the combat readiness of air defense... "

Tyulenev claims that at noon, Stalin gave the order to bring the combat readiness of the air defense forces to 75%. What is 75%? This means that 75% anti-aircraft guns must be deployed at the OP. This is something between the availability levels №2 and №1.

We also pay attention to the following circumstances:

1) Memoirs give different times: noon and 2 hours of the day. Tyulenev calls different times of Stalin's call during the story of N.G. Kuznetsova and in his memoirs. A reasonable question arises: did Stalin call Tyulenev in the afternoon at all?

2) In his memoirs N.G. Kuznetsov does not confirm the words of General Tyulenev, but only writes that heard them from the commander of the Moscow Military District. Also N.G. Kuznetsov writes (probably also heard) that around 17 hours to Stalin were caused by Tymoshenko and Zhukov, which does not correspond to the entries in the journal of Stalin's visit: Tymoshenko was in Stalin's office from 19-05 to 20-15. Later, Tymoshenko and Zhukov were in the office from 20-50 to 22-20.

Inaccuracies can be the result of forgetfulness or a conscious distortion of events on the eve of the war by General Tyulenev. We will try to understand this episode. To do this, consider another memories.

Ya.E. Chadayev (manager of the affairs of the USSR SNK): "At about 7 hours of the evening A.N.Poskrebyshev called and asked to come to him to take one document for registration ... Today, the “host” worried about something: he summoned Tymoshenko and Zhukov и just talked with Tyulenev. I asked him what had been done to bring air defense into combat readiness.... »

Chadayev’s memoirs also contain inaccuracies regarding Stalin’s stay with G.K. Zhukov to 19-00. In addition, in the memoirs of Chadayev, Poskrebyshev also mentioned the visit of Stalin by the secretary of the Moscow city committee of the party, Shcherbakov. However, according to the visiting journal, Shcherbakov was also not in the chief’s office. Inaccuracies in the memories raise doubts about the credibility of Chadayev’s other statements.

But everything becomes more or less clear if we assume that in Chadayev’s memoirs the truth about being in the office of Stalin Tymoshenko and Zhukov, and time itself is distorted - 19-00. Then this conversation could occur in the time span from 21-00 to 23-00 ...

The Moscow air defense zone is formed by the order of the NNO 14.2.41 based on the air defense system of the air defense system. Commander Major General MS Hulk. The zone includes: the air defense zone headquarters (headquarters), the 1 body of the air defense, 6 of the air defense system (formed by the order of the NNO 19.6.41 based on the 24 and 78 iad), Kalininsky, Yaroslavsky, Gorky and Tula brigade areas of the air defense.

Let's see what the commander of the 1 Air Defense Corps, which was part of the troops of the Moscow air defense zone, writes about 21.6.41 events. D.A. Zhuravlev: "At three o'clock in the afternoon I went home, and soon with my family I was already at the exhibition ... Nearly one of the pavilions was found by an adjutant: "Comrade General, you are ordered to immediately appear on the command post." I looked at my watch: 18-35... At the KP appeared Gromadin: "Just called the district commander. It is ordered to call from the camps and put in position 20% of all the troops there... »

The call of Stalin Tyulenev could theoretically take place around 18-00, but in this case, the conversation was not set specific dates for bringing anti-aircraft artillery units to combat readiness. In addition, it is a question of returning from the 20% camps of batteries, and not 75%, according to Tyulenev. The headquarters of the 1 Air Defense Corps is working on the issue of outputting these 20% batteries, which will be located on the OP 23 Jun evening only. Further events also occur sluggishly.

YES. Zhuravlev: "While I was negotiating by phone with Lavrynovych on the procedure for selecting units to be sent to positions, he checked which of the batteries had already fired, received a new order: to call from the camp not 20%, but half of all troops...

Somewhere in the middle of the night another order came: to bring to the position the entire anti-aircraft artillery ... In this business rush, no one immediately paid attention to the bell of one of the phones ... And the phone, after a short silence, rang again, long and demanding ... The distant excited voice repeated several times: “Moscow, Moscow, says Minsk . Bomb airfields of Grodno and Lida. Do you hear Moscow?
.. "

It turns out that after the 18 watch, the commander of the Moscow air defense zone receives an order from the commander of the Moscow Military Troops Tylenev about the withdrawal of the 20% anti-aircraft weapons at the OP. At this moment, many parts of the air defense are on the range in the suburbs. YES. Zhuravlev with his subordinates checks: which of the batteries can be sent to the SP (which conducted firing at the range), and which still should be left at the range to perform training firing. It turns out that he was not given tight deadlines on the withdrawal of parts at the OP on the night of 22 June. At that time, the leadership of the 1 Air Defense Corps and the Moscow Air Defense Zone do not suspect the start of the war at dawn on 22 June and therefore are not particularly in a hurry: the batteries are not given the command to immediately speak at the OP. About the imminent start of the war does not suspect the person who gave the order Tyulenev. After all, even after receiving a new order on the withdrawal of 50% of air defense weapons to the OP, their withdrawal is planned only by the evening of June 23.

Who is the person giving the orders to the commander of the Moscow Military District about launching anti-aircraft artillery at the OP? This can not be the head of the General Staff Zhukov, otherwise he would certainly have reflected this fact in his memoirs and would not have been petty with a gradual increase in the number of withdrawn air defense forces in the position. This person can not be the head of the Main Department of Air Defense, as he does not know about this indication. In addition, the head of the Main Directorate of the Air Defense Directorate would alert the air defense fighter aircraft. Aviation of the Moscow air defense zone is prepared to repel a possible air raid only after the start of the war.

As General Tyulenev, through whom, perhaps, passes the order on the withdrawal of air defense weapons to the OP, when it gets dark, he leaves home relax and is not going to control the incoming instructions, then this person can not be Stalin.

Who could be the person who gave the first order to withdraw 20% of air defense weapons around 18 hours? General Zhuravlev writes that the instruction came from Tyulenev. After visiting the General Staff on June 21, the commander of the Moscow Military District could learn about the strange movements of enemy troops near the borders and decide to return part of the anti-aircraft weapons to the OP for the defense of the capital. In this case he could secure such an order and calmly go home later not controlling its passage - because the beginning of the war is unknown. The mention of Stalin in his memoirs in this case is fiction.

The second indication of the increase in anti-aircraft artillery weapons to 50%, displayed on the OP, passed somewhere in the period from 20-00 to 23-00. The specified number does not coincide with the number given in the memoirs of Tyulenev - there again lies. The person who issued the second order remains unknown. It could have been Stalin (later in July 1941 of the year he called the commander of the air defense zone directly), he could have been Budyonny (1-th Deputy Commissar of Defense) and any other person. But I repeat - the timing of the rise of air defense units on the night of June 22 is not set.

It should be noted that the withdrawal of the 50% or 100% anti-aircraft weapons to the OP is not yet a transfer of the troops of the 1 Air Defense Corps to the Exhaust Unit No.2 or No.1. This is only a translation from FG No. XXUMX. And what readiness will be assigned after the withdrawal to the OP will be determined by the number of duty forces and the location of the rest of the personnel.

I.V.Tyulenev: "In the evening I was with the People's Commissar of Defense ... S.K.Timoshenko and the head of the General Staff, General of the Army GKZhukov. From them I learned about the new alarming symptoms of an impending war. Guards were also suspicious about the German embassy: employees of all ranks hurriedly drove away in cars outside the city. Later I went back to Zhukov.

“According to reports from district headquarters,” he said, “it’s as if everything is calm.” Nevertheless, I warned the commanders of a possible attack by fascist Germany. These assumptions are supported by our intelligence.
... "

[I wonder how many visitors came to Zhukov and how many of them did he pour out his soul? Apparently, he had nothing else to do on the day before the war, or Tyulenev was lying again ... In the morning, a message arrived from Zapov about the removal of wire barriers and columns of German troops going to Suvalkinskiy protrusion, but the Commissar and Chief of the General Staff only calmed Pavlova and did not give away one indication of the upcoming border connections. A little later, Zhukov went to give a speech at a meeting in GAU ...]

I wondered what the balance of power is now - ours and Germans.

“The Germans, as far as I know, do not have a general superiority,” Zhukov said shortly ...

It was already getting dark when I left the headquarters of the Moscow Military District. I got out of the car in a quiet Rzhevsky Lane, where I lived with my family - my wife and two children ...

At 3 o'clock in the morning 22 Jun woke me up phone call. Urgently summoned to the Kremlin. On the way I drove into the General Staff. GK Zhukov on HF talked with the staffs of the border VO. After telephone conversations, he informed me that German aircraft bombed Kovno, Rivne, Sevastopol, Odessa
... "

Tyulenev continues to misinform readers. In 3 hours it causes urgently not to the place of service, but to the Kremlin! And he, by the way, calls in the General Staff to talk to Zhukov, waits while he speaks to the districts ... Yes, and the head of the General Staff is good. Such news came, and we need to talk with someone again ... And they say, Stalin is a tyrant, and they were afraid to shiver in his knees. And then some general in no hurry. After all, he does not know whether Stalin is in the Kremlin or not. Of course, they can wait in the Kremlin ...

According to the author, the commander of the Moscow Military District was summoned to the Kremlin after receiving reports of the bombing of Soviet cities. The entire text, placed in the memoirs, is intended to whitewash the chief of the General Staff, whom Tyulenev always tried to protect. It turned out ineptly, but who knew in the epoch of writing these memoirs that it would be possible to get to the documents! ..

To be continued ...
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  1. +18
    8 September 2018 06: 15
    Thanks to the author for a great article with a lot of links to documents
    I will expect to continue
  2. +9
    8 September 2018 06: 34
    I also like to read articles, but only from the eleventh part (I apologize to the author). I am also waiting for the continuation of the part about air defense - I myself served in the Baku Air Defense District
  3. +17
    8 September 2018 09: 15
    The author wishes, despite everything, the series of articles to continue: the work is interesting and worthy, with a huge number of cited documents that he himself would never have read because of the lack of time.

    The materials of the article confirm the fact that on June 22, they did not wait for the war, respectively, did not prepare, and there was a mess at the top: vital regiments of communication were not deployed and died, the air defense did not even inform about Directive 1, artillery died in the camps, etc.
    1. +1
      10 September 2018 14: 52
      ... were waiting
      who with horseback attack. who from the note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
      and someone with a hidden hope
      I have many times about the mentality of peasants


      ------ the war must be started before "two rains in May and Russia is invincible"
      after that - everything is not certain, the plan of the enemy is not clear
      and in the army and in the highest leadership of the country, and in the district committees

      peasants considered oats, and urban fuel oil and metal ...
      dying in the minds turned out
  4. +6
    8 September 2018 14: 08
    Article liked. Most of the volume, but as the weekend reading matter goes. Sorry no continuation
    The author, who is an unknown person, according to your version?
  5. +13
    8 September 2018 15: 16
    I am glad that you have returned and continued your important work. I dare to add on the special readiness of the headquarters and air defense troops in the PribOVO from 18.06.41. Aviation of the PribOVO was partly based there on the same airfields (Libava, Riga, etc.) with the naval aviation of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet, subordinate to the NK RKKF, which took measures of combat deployment before the NK RKKA. By 18.06.41. Fleet reconnaissance has established that the Finns and Germans are secretly mining the Gulf of Finland. In Riga in those days there was the flagship of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet, the cruiser Kirov, for which the district headquarters was responsible from the coast.
    1. +6
      8 September 2018 16: 22
      Thank! True, just returned)))
      Wow, I’ve already seen the beautiful number of 3333 people!
      I’ll clarify that the 2 part about air defense is being moderated and the part devoted to the Leningrad Military District is also submitted for moderation.
      Once I came across the statement of a user from Ukraine: "When will the part about the South appear?" It is for this comrade (literally for me))) that I answer - immediately for LenVO - it takes 1-2 weeks for final editing ...
      1. +4
        9 September 2018 06: 36
        In PribOVO and LenVO, questions about the circumstances of the closure of our institutions (not only the permanent missions) in Finland are one of the most urgent, since now the Finns are blaming the USSR for the bombing of Helsinki on 25.6.41., Supposedly this was the beginning of the war, and not their joint with the Germans actions against our institutions, concentration of troops on the border, secret mining of our part of the Baltic Sea and landing of German divisions. If the cipher correspondence of our intelligence services in Scandinavia was still opened to you, this would have been a discovery at all.
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  7. -2
    8 September 2018 18: 22
    Shooting Germans Army Group Center
  8. -8
    8 September 2018 18: 40
    For those who want to learn about the causes of the tragedy on June 22, I recommend a conversation about the reasons that led to the tragedy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxRghBKourY
  9. -11
    8 September 2018 19: 13
    The author declares:
    N.N. Voronov (since 19.6.41 - head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the KA): “There are always a lot of difficulties at a new job, but this time they were especially numerous. Most disturbing, some military comrades did not understand the importance of air defense in modern conditions. From the very first days, a lot seemed to be set differently from what it should be ... The command and control system of the air defense forces was very unstable. So, for example, the entire airspace monitoring service was directly under the responsibility of the Air Defense Directorate ... and all active air defense assets were subordinate to the air defense commander and, on special training issues only, to the head of the state air defense. This ... did not contribute to clarity and efficiency in management ... "

    Because all this text has been removed from the book of Irinarkhov, and aKtoR critically does not know how to think, he will have to remind him that earlier he himself refers to the Decree, where the depth of responsibility of the airborne aerospace defense is defined at 1200 km:
    Air defense. 25.1.41 the Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR “On Air Defense Organization” is issued. The Decree states: “1. The area threatened by an air attack is considered to be the territory located 1200 km from the state border. Points and structures located beyond 1200 km from the state border can be covered by air defense systems by a special decision of the USSR Government ...

    It is not necessary to have seven geniuses in the forehead in order to understand that the border districts often could not have such depth at all, which is why the entire headquarters of VNOS was led by the air defense headquarters. But the main active means were located in the districts, and in order to manage them effectively, avoiding the defeat of their aircraft, they were locked into the command of the district. I think that in that situation it was the most optimal solution, based on the existing forces and air defense systems and the presence of front-line aviation, subordinate to the district.
    Further, the author issues the next pearls:
    Please note that the head of the General Staff allowed the leadership of various air defense units deployed in the border districts along different lines of command and control: the air-defense units were subordinated to the Air Defense Directorate, and anti-aircraft artillery, searchlight units and air forces were assigned the task of air defense, IN.

    I want to draw attention to the fact that the author is simply ignorant of the head of the General Staff, because all air defense is led by the deputy. Commissar, i.e. that official, who is in the same status with the beginning of the Head, and he does not have the right to command them. Only the People's Commissar of Defense can solve air defense issues, as prescribed by a Government Decree:
    4. To assign the air defense leadership: a) in the center to the head of the State Air Defense ..., subordinate to the people's commissar of defense; b) in the districts - to the assistant commander of the district’s air defense forces ... "

    So, because of the ignorance of some authors, the history of the Great Patriotic War is misinterpreted, which is generally unacceptable on military sites. It is strange that a person who undertakes to assess the events of those years did not even bother to learn the basics of military affairs.
    1. +4
      9 September 2018 06: 49
      I would like to read not your personal opinion, but the opinion supported by documents and facts. I hope this opinion is not a sofa expert? People are cheesy and never usually apologize.
      1. -10
        9 September 2018 09: 01
        Quote: Ales
        I hope this opinion is not a sofa expert?

        Do not worry, not a couch. Interestingly, you yourself served in the army if you didn’t see the stupid things that the author of the article writes in particular regarding the relationship between the chief of the General Staff and the air defense commander of the country under his command. Since when did one deputy people's commissar (minister) of defense have the right to give orders to another deputy? Or are you the Government Decision to whom the air defense commander is subordinate could not correctly understand?
  10. +12
    8 September 2018 20: 36
    Quote: ccsr
    Further, the author issues the next pearls:
    Please note that the head of the General Staff allowed the leadership of various air defense units deployed in the border districts along different lines of command and control: the air-defense units were subordinated to the Air Defense Directorate, and anti-aircraft artillery, searchlight units and air forces were assigned the task of air defense, IN.

    I want to draw attention to the fact that the author is simply ignorant of the head of the General Staff, because all air defense is led by the deputy. Commissar, i.e. that official, who is in the same status with the beginning of the Head, and he does not have the right to command them. Only the People's Commissar of Defense can solve air defense issues, as prescribed by a Government Decree:
    4. The leadership of the Air Defense Force shall be assigned: a) in the center to the head of the Main Directorate of the Air Defense Directorate, subordinate to the people's Commissar of Defense b) in the districts - as assistant to the commander of the district’s air defense forces ... ”
    So, because of the ignorance of some authors, the history of the Great Patriotic War is misinterpreted, which is generally unacceptable on military sites. It is strange that a person who undertakes to assess the events of those years did not even bother to learn the basics of military affairs.


    I understand that you are insulting me without presenting evidence - like unfounded... And you consider yourself "knowing the basics of military affairs ..." Let's see if this is so ...

    Order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No. 0113 "On the distribution of duties between
    Deputy National Commissioner of Defense "15.3.41

    "In accordance with the decision of the Government of 8.3.41, I establish the following distribution of duties between my deputies:

    ... 2. To the Deputy People's Commissar for Defense of the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, General of the Army T. Zhukov GK., in addition to managing the activities of the General Staff Administration, I assign the leadership questions fuel supply, communication organization, air defense country and the Academy of the General Staff.

    Directly subordinate to the Deputy People’s Commissar of Defense and the Chief of the General Staff of the Spacecraft:
    a) GSA;
    b) the management of the supply of fuel to the Red Army;
    c) Spacecraft Communications Directorate;
    d) Main Directorate of Air Defense of the Red Army;
    e) General Staff Academy ...
    "

    I understand that as a well-bred person, Mr. Colonel, you must apologize for their rudeness and admit your incompetence in the question you described.

    I'll wait....
    1. +1
      9 September 2018 12: 19
      Quote: aKtoR
      ... 2. To the Deputy People’s Commissar of Defense, Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, Army Gen. Comrade G. Zhukov, in addition to managing the activities of the General Staff of the General Aviation Administration, I entrust management with fuel supply, communications, air defense and the General Staff Academy.

      And what a graceful passage wassat
      General G.K. Zhukov, in addition to managing the work of the General Staff, in terms of official duties, also had to supervise the work of the General Directorate of Air Defense, the Communications Directorate, the Directorate of Fuel Supply and the Military Academy of the General Staff. The absence of a centralized order from the General Staff from his superior to transfer air defense units to operational readiness No. 2 once again testifies that G.K.Zhukov did not particularly expect a war on 20-21 on June: he will probably carry..

      Already tired of explaining "on the fingers" about the mess that was happening in the heads of the Red Army soldiers from the middle level to the level of commanders of the districts - well, the Red Army was not as highly professional as it was in the case of the Wehrmacht, which went through the Polish and French companies for incomplete 2 years old. This is how to compare the mid-90's RA sample with today's.
      Especially touching are the tons and kilometers of "documents" and memoirs, in which you can find a lot of small but significant inconsistencies. And sometimes commonplace discrepancy.

      But how convenient, from the standpoint of the present day, to present the military-political leadership of the USSR as such idiots. If we take such a statement as an axiom, then the Red Army was to be defeated according to the Barbarossa plan within 3-4 months, with access to the notorious Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line.

      Such pseudo-liberal "studies" suggest the inferiority of the "Slavic race" carried out by the ideologists of the Third Reich. And, as a consequence, the author of these fabrications can be safely put on a par with Rosenberg, Goebbels, and with their current heirs - Svanidze, Solonin, Rezun and other trash who are accustomed to so brazenly and shamelessly throw mud at their supposedly people and their History ...
    2. -8
      9 September 2018 16: 07
      To the waiting person who writes, forgetting what he stated earlier:
      Quote: aKtoR
      I understand that you insult me ​​without presenting evidence - like unfounded ... And you consider yourself "knowing the basics of military affairs ..." Let's see if this is so ...

      Order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No. 0113 "On the distribution of duties between
      Deputy National Commissioner of Defense "15.3.41

      "In accordance with the Government's decision of 8.3.41, I establish the following distribution of responsibilities between my deputies:

      ... 2. To the Deputy People’s Commissar of Defense, Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, Army Gen. Comrade G. Zhukov, in addition to managing the activities of the General Staff of the General Aviation Administration, I entrust management with fuel supply, communications, air defense and the General Staff Academy.

      And now we read what you wrote earlier in relation to Zhukov’s NHS:
      Note that The chief of the General Staff allowed the leadership of the various air defense units deployed on the territory of the border districts along different lines of combat control: air defense units were subordinate to the anti-aircraft defense, and anti-aircraft artillery, searchlight and air force units, which were assigned the task of air defense, were assigned to the air defense leadership.

      Since you have no idea of ​​the Armed Forces at all, a picture appeared in your imagination in which Zhukov was obliged in mid-March to correct all those shortcomings that had accumulated over the years in the country's air defense system and for the remaining three months to solve all organizational issues of interaction between different structures Commissar of Defense. I'm not talking about the fact that Tymoshenko himself was obliged to do this while being the people's commissar, but the decision was erroneous, which is why another reorganization of the air defense forces took place in the autumn of 1941. The fact that on the eve of the war there was a leapfrog in NGOs, to which Zhukov was less involved than Tymoshenko, is known from many documents, and two Government decrees on air defense in January and March correcting it, best speaks of who was to blame, taking into account the date of appointment of Zhukov to the post of NHS. So Zhukov can be blamed for a lot, but not what was imposed on him QUESTIONSand not the air defense leadership on the eve of the war, and which turned out to be an erroneous decision not through his fault. So, I’m not going to apologize to you for your unreasonable reproaches to the Zhukov Omsk State Pedagogical University - you are simply not in the subject, and speculate on the recollections of one person who also wanted to whitewash himself to some extent with regard to the responsibility of the air defense forces for what happened 22nd of June.
      Well, so that it would be really fun for you, I remind you that Decrees of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 198-97 cc of January 25, 1941 "On the organization of air defense" touched other drug commissariats and departments, but the March Decree concerned only NPOs and even that regarding organization of the structure . As they say, feel the difference ...
      1. +5
        9 September 2018 17: 55
        I thought so: ham and never confesses that a liar. And, as usual, people from the mngo text are off topic.
        For readers, I note: the leadership of PribOVO, on their own initiative, raised a part of the SPT and, eight hours before the start of the war, began to mobilize this part. And the head of the General Staff did not take over no responsibility for the rise of air defense units. No. And where does the various departments? NKVD prevented Zhukov and Tymoshenko to order the withdrawal of air defense units to firing positions? Or forbidden to withdraw anti-aircraft units from the camps? Why write twenty-one lines of text without disproving the text of the article?
        You consider yourself a military man and well versed in military matters. Why is it not a word that the orders of the People's Commissars on the instructions on the introduction of the threatened situation before the People's Commissar were obliged to edit the head of the General Staff, who was in charge of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the spacecraft. Why are there contradictions with the activities of the Directive? And in what happened with the air defense units, with the lack of projectiles for anti-aircraft systems, the leadership of the spacecraft is guilty: Commissar and Chief of the General Staff. That it overestimated the real possibilities of air defense weapons - but they were responsible for this. As for the connection. As well as for fuel. But for this they did not recognize themselves guilty - other people who were called traitors suffered.
        They avoided the issue of preparing troops for war on the night of June 22. They did not say a word about the war (they did not believe in it). That is why air defense units began to prepare only after orders from the districts, but not before the 23-00 21 of June, when the people's commissar called the districts. He told them nothing but to be on their guard. Modern slang - framed. and the head of the General Staff was in the office with the People's Commissar — ​​they made the decision together.
        We will see a lot of interesting things in the districts, which is not customary to talk about ...
        1. -9
          9 September 2018 19: 07
          Quote: aKtoR
          For readers, I note: the leadership of PribOVO, on their own initiative, raised a part of VNOS and eight hours before the start of the war they began to mobilize this part.

          This they were supposed to do according to the Government Decree:
          2. The territory of the USSR threatened by air attack shall be divided into:
          a) on air defense zones within the boundaries of existing military districts;
          b) to areas of air defense within the districts;
          c) to air defense points within areas.
          3. The air defense zone includes all air defense systems - fighter aircraft, anti-aircraft units and air defense missile defense allotted to protect points, objects, structures and bridges in the district.
          Air defense areas and points include all air defense systems - fighter aircraft, anti-aircraft weapons and airborne air defense assets allocated to protect the respective area or point.

          So first figure out who and what should have been raised before giving examples, given the fact that there are intelligence agencies in the districts.
          Quote: aKtoR
          And the chief of the General Staff did not take any responsibility for raising the air defense units.

          And this does not tell me:
          d) to bring the air defense to combat readiness without additional lifting the subscription. Prepare all measures to darken cities and objects;


          Quote: aKtoR
          And where does the different departments? The NKVD prevented Zhukov and Tymoshenko from giving orders to withdraw air defense units to firing positions?

          If you carefully studied the January government decree, rather than thoughtlessly copying other people's texts, then you would know why the country's air defense leadership was strengthened by the NKVD, and at the same time, the fleet retained its air defense structures independent of NGOs:
          8. Release the People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs of the USSR from active air defense of power plants, hydraulic structures, industrial enterprises, railway and highway bridges, entrusting the air defense of these facilities to the People’s Commissariat of Defense.
          In this regard, the NKVD by February 1, 1941 to transfer to the People's Commissariat of Defense 13 anti-aircraft divisions and 42 anti-machine-gun companies with all personnel, equipment, military equipment and housing stock available as part of the NKVD troops.

          From a series of children's questions:
          Quote: aKtoR
          Why is there not a word about the fact that the orders of the people's commissars on instructions for introducing a threatened situation before the people's commissar had to be edited by the chief of the General Staff, who was in charge of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the KA.

          Because the chief of the General Staff is responsible for the publication and accounting of orders of NPOs, who incidentally has the right to sign an order of NPOs when the people's commissar cannot physically do this - he had such a right in the Soviet General Staff.
          They withdrew from resolving issues of preparing troops for war on the night of June 22.

          I don’t even want to comment on this baby talk, because the only serious accusation against them can be one - they took too long to prepare a directive that had to be sent to the troops at least an hour and a half earlier, and after arriving from Stalin verbally give the command to take up positions cover plan by the end of June 21.
  11. +3
    8 September 2018 20: 40
    Quote: ccsr
    Because this whole text ripped from the book Irinarkhova


    Take a closer look - this is a quote from the text and I do not attribute these words to myself. What is your statement? To steer away from the question?

    The quotation unequivocally states that in the border districts different air defense units submitted to different structures. If you can present documents confirming the opposite - show, we will see. But it is not necessary to say without proof, once you have already deceived (see above)
  12. +6
    8 September 2018 20: 50
    Quote: ccsr
    It is not necessary to have seven geniuses in the forehead in order to understand that the border districts often could not have such depth at all, which is why the entire headquarters of VNOS was led by the air defense headquarters. But the main active means were located in the districts, and in order to manage them effectively, avoiding the defeat of their aircraft, they were locked into the command of the district. I think that in that situation it was the most optimal solution, based on the existing forces and air defense systems and the presence of front-line aviation, subordinate to the district.


    This quote is what, Colonel? Maybe you think that ZOVOVO, KOVO and OdVO did not have active anti-aircraft weapons, but there were only parts of VNOS beyond the eastern border? Strain and explain your thought with the cast application documents. It’s also clear to the fool that a number of VOs had an operational depth of less than 1200 km))) But behind them were other VOs, in which air defense units submitted to their assistant commanders.
    For example, the territory of the LVO was located behind PribOVO ... Do you think there was no commander for air defense Kryukov? Or did the commander of the Moscow air defense zone report not to the commander of the Moscow Military District, but to the head of the Soviet Air Defense Directorate? Give a document confirming your words. You see, not everyone can be trusted, they can be deceived to raise their authority ...

    PS If you carefully read the text again, it may come to you that it is a question of the territory of the western border districts, where there was a command of VNOS and active air defense systems through various departmental channels

    And, in general, do not hesitate to look for documents and present them, and not speculation, like your friend Kozinkin, a literary figure in science fiction. Fantasies - it is contagious)))
    1. -9
      9 September 2018 19: 22
      Quote: aKtoR
      It’s also understandable to a fool that a number of HEs had an operational depth of less than 1200 km))) But behind them were other HEs, in which air defense units were subordinate to their assistant commanders.

      Only fools do not know that the Decree determined not only the depth of the zone for the air defense forces, but also the order of those who had the right to decide on a cover outside this zone:
      Points and structures located beyond 1200 km from the state border may be covered by air defense systems by a special decision of the USSR Government.

      The clever one will immediately understand that in the internal districts air defense systems could be placed in strictly defined places, and without the decision of the government, and not the people's commissar of defense or the NHS, they did not have the right to violate established borders.
      For example, behind PribOVO there was a territory of an air defense system ... Do you think there was no assistant commander for air defense Kryukov? Or did the commander of the Moscow Air Defense Zone report not to the commander of the Moscow Aviation Defense, but to the head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the KA? Provide a document confirming your words.

      Do not attribute to me what I have not claimed.
      By the way, in the Moscow Military District, according to the Government Decree, not all cities in the district had air defense cover because of their remoteness from the border.

      And, in general, do not hesitate to search for documents and present them,

      So you put your fantasies about the call of the MBO commander to the Kremlin and his arrival at Zhukov - what documents did you submit?
  13. -8
    9 September 2018 09: 23
    Quote: aKtoR
    maybe you think that beyond the eastern border of the Zapovo, KOVO and OdVO there were no active anti-aircraft weapons, but there were only parts of the airspace landing gear? Tighten and explain your thoughts with the cast of documents.

    I don’t have to strain, because the powers of the district commander extend only to the territory of my district, and another district commander commands in another territory. These are the basics of military administration. That is why, in order to instruct the commander of a border region to provide the airspace of another region with the divisions of VNOS, at least the General Directive is needed, and this is impractical even from the point of view of managing these structures. If you do not understand why in the fall of 1941 the unified air defense system was divided into military and air defense territories of the country, then I can hardly help you, but in any case this was due to the inability to quickly manage front-line (district) air defense systems.
    1. +3
      9 September 2018 10: 28
      Quote: ccsr
      I don’t have to strain, because the powers of the district commander extend only to the territory of my district, and another district commander commands in another territory. These are the basics of military administration. That is why, in order to instruct the commander of a border region to provide the airspace of another region with the divisions of VNOS, at least the General Directive is needed, and this is impractical even from the point of view of managing these structures. If you do not understand why in the fall of 1941 the unified air defense system was divided into military and air defense territories of the country, then I can hardly help you, but in any case this was due to the inability to quickly manage front-line (district) air defense systems.

      A lot of text and everything is blurry in the water. As a political officer, he speaks a lot and about nothing. Contribution in the territory of border districts, for example, KOVOs? To whom did they obey? All parts of the military air defense and air defense areas were subordinate to the assistant commander of the district troops. This is exactly what this is about. and you all blah blah blah. Where are the documents that separate parts of the airspace monitoring and inspection department located only on the territory of KOVO were subordinate to the okrug?
      What issues was decided by the head of the State Defense Department of Air Defense? Look if you don’t know. He was responsible only for the special training of all air defense units and did not supervise the air defense units in the internal districts. Well this is elementary things, Watson, and you are stupid.
      State the facts and not your speculation - here people are adults and do not complain about the severity of the mind
      1. -9
        9 September 2018 19: 29
        Quote: RuSFr
        Contribution in the territory of border districts, for example, KOVOs? To whom did they obey?

        Learn materiel, i.e. Resolution "On the organization of air defense"
        25.01.1941
        No. 198-97:
        3. The air defense zone includes all air defense systems — fighter aircraft, anti-aircraft units, and air defense missile defense allotted to protect points, objects, structures, and bridges in the district.
        Air defense areas and points include all air defense systems - fighter aircraft, anti-aircraft weapons and airborne air defense assets allocated to protect the respective area or point.
        4. The air defense leadership to assign:
        a) in the center, to the head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense of the USSR, subordinate to the People’s Commissar of Defense;
        b) in the districts - to the assistant commander of the district’s forces for air defense of the territory of the district, he is the commander of the corresponding air defense zone, subordinated in all respects to the commander of the district’s troops;
        c) in the districts - against the commander of an air defense brigade, he is the commander of the air defense brigade region;
        d) in points - to the commander of an air defense unit or unit uniting this point.
        In the event that the brigade area is located in the army area, the commander of the area is subordinate to the army commander.
        Organizations of air defense brigade districts organize 31.
        7. To approve the following composition and organization of air defense units for the defense of the rear:

        You would at least read the Decree so as not to ask stupid questions.
  14. +2
    9 September 2018 10: 22
    Quote: ccsr
    Since when did one deputy people's commissar (minister) of defense have the right to give orders to another deputy?

    Of course a sofa expert. Read the syllables. There is below the order of the USSR people's commissar of defense that the deputy commissar-chief of the General Staff was in charge of the USSR Air Defense State Administration. Well, I understand that senile processes do not contribute to the sharpness of the mind and memory)))
    Is it interesting to apologize or are the real colonels behaving boorishly?
    1. -8
      9 September 2018 16: 18
      Quote: RuSFr
      that the deputy commissar-chief of the General Staff was in charge of the USSR Air Defense Administration.

      Read carefully sofa expert:
      To the Deputy People’s Commissar of Defense, Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, Army General Comrade G. Zhukov, in addition to managing the management of the General Staff of the Spacecraft entrust management of fuel supply, communications, air defense and the Academy of the General Staff.

      The words "leadership of the General Staff Directorate" and "air defense issues" in the language of the military have completely different meanings. But the illiterate officers of the Bundeswehr do not understand this.
  15. -8
    9 September 2018 16: 12
    Quote: aKtoR
    Look carefully - this is a quote from the text and I do not ascribe these words to myself.

    And why then do not you quote, or do not indicate the source?
    Or did you decide to show your wisdom without specifying the authors of the text that you use?
  16. +2
    9 September 2018 17: 06
    Quote: ccsr
    The words "leadership of the General Staff Directorate" and "air defense issues" in the language of the military have completely different meanings. But the illiterate officers of the Bundeswehr do not understand this.

    Right kindergarten. You are asked to submit a document, and then again, cunning. Do you understand Russian well? Documents that mention the mythical deputy commissar, to whom the subdivision of the Air Defense Department submits, if you are not lying.
    You wrote above about the deputy commissar, and if this is not the deputy commissar-chief of the General Staff Zhukov, then name his sister and show the document where it says.
    You and my friend Kozinkin are lying a lot and you don’t present documents as much as I ask. I don’t understand: either silly, or so arrogant that they are ready to lie in public for the sake of their book business.
    Waiting for facts and documents.
    And for those users who read comments, I note that no one else deputy commissar exists. Lies, Colonel Milchakov. When og 2 was introduced into the coastal area, the head of the KA Air Defense Department went to report to his immediate superior. Who was that? The article about it was
    Let's see what Milchakov will show besides a heap of blah blah blah
    1. +1
      9 September 2018 17: 57
      Thank you
      There is nothing for him to write, but there are no documents in sight. So fool the readers head.
      I noticed that Kozinkin did not submit a single document to your more than thirty requests.
      Both, just like two bazaar women at gatherings: just to say something, and let the docks be fools. And then they will see what to use in future books for free.
      Cat Basilio and Fox Alice
      1. -10
        9 September 2018 19: 46
        Quote: aKtoR
        Both, just like two bazaar women on gatherings: just to say something, and let the docks bring them fools.

        Your articles are just a miserable compilation of works by other authors that have been discussed in many forums, so you don’t feel like spending a lot of time on your homegrown conclusions. That's why they answer you the way you deserve it.
        1. VS
          -8
          13 September 2018 07: 11
          Well, what to take from a lady who stupidly does not allow what could be wrong as she WANTS and that means this can’t be))

          She writes - "" Chadayev's memoirs also contain inaccuracies regarding the stay with Stalin G.K. Zhukov until 19-00. In addition, in Chadayev's memoirs, Poskrebyshev also mentioned Stalin's visit by the secretary of the Moscow City Party Committee, Shcherbakov. However, according to the visit log, Shcherbakov was not in the leader's office either. Inaccuracies in the memoirs raise doubts about the reliability of other statements by Chadayev. ""

          Shcherbakova’s assistant wrote that THEY WERE at Stalin))) AND THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE in visit logs either)))
          But to admit that Stalin could receive people not only in the office where the visitors were recording, but also in some kind of room - Madame does not come to the head))
    2. -9
      9 September 2018 19: 43
      Quote: RuSFr
      Right kindergarten. You are asked to submit a document, and then again, cunning. Do you understand Russian well? Documents that mention the mythical deputy commissar, to whom the subdivision of the Air Defense Department submits, if you are not lying.

      Read military history before you start lying about air defense troops:
      By a resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR on April 5, 1932, the leadership of the air defense forces and means was assigned to the People’s Commissariat for Military and Naval Affairs.

      The Sixth Directorate of the General Staff is being transformed into the Air Defense Administration of the Red Army, headed by the Air Defense Chief, who was entrusted with the management of all air defense systems on special issues, as well as managing the activities of civilian departments and public organizations on air defense issues.

      Air defense directorates are created in military districts, headed by the heads of air defense districts. In December 1940, the Air Defense Forces of the Red Army was transformed into the Main Directorate for Air Defense of the Red Army. He is entrusted with the planning of command and control of the air defense forces, the accounting of their armaments and the management of combat training.

      By this order the head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense was entrusted with the management of the organization of air defense of the territory of the USSR and the development of the use of all air defense systems:
      anti-aircraft artillery, anti-aircraft machine guns, anti-aircraft searchlights, fighter aircraft dedicated to air defense points, barrage balloons and airborne airborne service.
      The failures of the outbreak of World War II made adjustments to the structure of the country's air defense, and in the fall of 1941 the unified air defense system was divided into military and air defense territories of the country.

      http://mil.ru/files/files/pvo100/page79099.html
      If you have enough mind, then you will understand that already in 1932 the air defense command was withdrawn from the General Staff, and in 1940 it became the MAIN in the Red Army, i.e. directly subordinate to the narcotics of defense, and not to the chief of the General Staff. And only in March 1941 it was not clear at whose initiative the chief of the General Staff was given a decision on some of the issues related to the country's air defense, but even this decision was canceled in the fall.
      But this is not the point, but the fact that people like you and the author of the article do not understand a damn thing in the military history of our country, and climb with their amateurish knowledge to teach other people.
  17. -8
    9 September 2018 20: 03
    Author: aKtoR writes
    The leadership of the district lasted about half a day. The next day, the reaction of the chief of the General Staff follows (who, as we already know, in his official duties, was in charge of the Main Directorate of Air Defense and was obliged to know the fundamental documents): “You, without the sanction of the people's commissar, gave an order on air defense on the implementation of regulation No. 2 - this means to darken the Baltic states, and thereby damage the industry. Such actions can only be carried out by decision of the government. ”

    The chief of the General Staff clearly says that the introduction of regulation No. 2 (exhaust gas No. 2) is carried out only with the sanction of the people's commissar of defense, which did not give such a decision on June 21.

    This is how our non-commissioned officer widow carved herself - then she proved to everyone that Zhukov commanded the country's air defense through the head of the Main Directorate of Air Defense, then suddenly with anger he proves to everyone that ONLY the People's Commissar of Defense could give instructions (sanctions) on air defense actions in that period . Well, what to take from her - long hair ...
  18. -10
    9 September 2018 22: 04
    Author: aKtoR writes
    It was already getting dark when I left the headquarters of the Moscow Military District. I got out of the car in a quiet Rzhevsky Lane, where I lived with my family - my wife and two children ...

    At 3 a.m. on June 22, a telephone call woke me up. Urgently summoned to the Kremlin. On the way I stopped at the General Staff. GK Zhukov on the HF talked with the headquarters of the border military. After telephone conversations, he informed me that German aircraft were bombing Kovno, Rivne, Sevastopol, Odessa ... "

    Tyulenev continues to misinform readers. At 3 o’clock he was called urgently not to the duty station, but to the Kremlin! And he, by the way, calls in the General Staff to talk with Zhukov, waits for him to talk with the districts ... Yes, and the Chief of the General Staff is good. Such news came, but we need to talk to someone again ... But they say that Stalin is a tyrant, and they were afraid to tremble in his knees. And then some general is in no hurry at all. After all, he does not know whether Stalin is in the Kremlin or not. Of course, they can wait in the Kremlin ...

    According to the author, the commander of the Moscow Military District was summoned to the Kremlin after receiving reports of the bombing of Soviet cities. The entire text, placed in the memoirs, is intended to whitewash the chief of the General Staff, whom Tyulenev always tried to protect. It turned out ineptly, but who knew in the epoch of writing these memoirs that it would be possible to get to the documents! ..

    The next pearls of the author bring a smile to any military professional who knows what a charter is and how it acts when receiving orders from a senior commander. Tyulenev, if he received an order to come to the Kremlin, is OBLIGED to immediately owe his boss, i.e. to the People's Commissar of Defense or his substitute, about the order received and to ACT as he is ordered by his IMMEDIATE chief. Since Tymoshenko and Zhukov, unlike Tyulenev, were aware of all the current events of the last hours, he was advised to come to the NGO and get acquainted with the situation and obtain the available information so as not to look helpless in front of Stalin during the report. Considering that between Rzhevsky lane. and Znamenka about a kilometer, it is easy to understand that Tyulenev, on the way to the Kremlin, drove to the People's Commissariat of Defense for a while to enter the course. So all of the author's dances around the words "cause urgently" once again showed that she does not understand at all how the relationship in the top military leadership is arranged, which is why her enchanting comments cause only a smile.
  19. +1
    10 September 2018 22: 14
    Author: "On the basis of the materials presented, try to conclude for yourself that the events in the air defense units before June 18 may indicate the expectation of a full-scale war (and not separate provocations) at dawn on 22.6.41. The author will also offer to look at the events already considered in PribOVO from a different angle. "
    I tried, but I can't get a conclusion. Why? Not enough information. Author: "133 zen detachment anti-aircraft machine gun battalion from the 10 air defense brigade had to be pulled apart by company and platoon to defend objects. ZhBD 133 zen detachment pool battalion:" 18.6.41. combat position number 2 ...
    19.6.41. A combat order has been received to send the DShK company to the town of Ponevezhets for the defense of the front headquarters ... "The FRONT HEADQUARTERS have already been deployed in Panevezys and it needs to be covered with air defense. The headquarters, something tells me, was working on June 19, 20, 21. And documents from him are not given In the ZhBD of the 10th Air Defense Brigade there is no record, not one, that the front headquarters interacted with the brigade. And it is not clear that the DShK company was sent to carry out a combat mission to protect the FRONT HQ ... The only conclusion I made many years ago, and according to the author's materials, he was convinced of this again, the names of settlements in the Soviet Baltic are still a mystery according to the documents of the wartime. The author, quoting ZhBD 133 zen.otd.pul.bat: "21.6.41. A combat order was received to send one company to the town of Trishkiai. security of warehouse No. 618… .21.6.41. A combat order has been received to send one platoon to the town of Lunachai to defend the warehouse .. "And in the ZhBD of the 10th Air Defense Brigade for 21.06.41 (for some reason, without specifying the time), the station was named:" Linhanchai ". About the town of Trishkiai, Telšiai region, Telšiai district modern Lithuania, where there was warehouse No. 618 in the "Combat mission" section in the 10th Air Defense Brigade's ZhBD not a word ... I do not know where I was on June 21, 1941. 979 artillery depots, maybe at the Myashkuichay (Meshkunchay) station of the Siauliai district of the Siauliai district of modern Lithuania ..In the section "Description of military operations" of the ZhBD of the 10th brigade, we read that the Zenpulrota and Zenpulvzvod for the air defense of the 618th artillery depot and the 979th artillery depot were formed and at 3.00 on 22.06.41 a company and a platoon were sent on the vehicles of the autobatalion. there are no clear ones, I can only guess ...
    1. VS
      -10
      11 September 2018 06: 58
      Nehai Madame and wonders - as in Pribovo contrary to Stalin in b .. g. they brought troops, but in other districts they didn’t do this))) neh madame and then carries the blizzard while bringing the docks for bringing to the base itself that the attack was not expected)) You can even give her the tones of facts that she is lying but she will not calm down)))

      Alas - this is the property of ALL inadequate, rozunov and the like - THEY ARE ALWAYS anonymous - hiding behind the clicks ALWAYS because they have something with their head is not OK ALWAYS)))

      Pay attention - HOW ONLY a person stubbornly hides his name - wait what thread is nonsense)))

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