Duel in the Russian Imperial Army. Part of 3

Legalization of duels in the Russian Imperial Army was directly handled by the Minister of War, Infantry General P.S. Vannovsky. His order for officer fights was conceived in order to increase the prestige of the officer's rank in society and had to strengthen the sense of dignity and respect for the officer. Initially, the law allowed only fights between officers. Then duels of officers with civilians of the nobility were allowed. Contemporaries noted that the Minister of War highly appreciated the importance of his order of duels from 1894. At the same time, Pyotr Semenovich always emphasized that it was to him "the Russian army is obliged to restore the honor of its uniform."

Russian Dueling Code and the unspoken rules of the fight

Since the fights among officers were officially allowed, it became necessary to streamline the conditions and rules for their conduct. To this end, several domestic dueling codes were written by different authors at once: Count Vasiliy Durasov (1908), Alexei Suvorin (1913), Major General Joseph Mikulin (1912) and others. But they all differed among themselves in details and with the existing duel practice. The Duel Code of Count Durasov was considered the most complete and detailed. It should be recalled that officially a single duel code in the Russian Empire was never developed. I had to use those that were at hand. And fight on fights in different conditions and according to different rules.

Russian duelists usually chose one of three types to resolve issues of honor. weapons: swords, sabers or pistols. Saber duels were rare. It should be noted that European gunsmiths, starting from the XVIII century, began to make special sets of twin weapons for duels. In a certain sense, it equalized the opportunities and chances of duelists, because each of them had the same weapon in their hands. The duel set, as a rule, was used only once and it was not intended for other fights.

It should be borne in mind that duels using cold weapons in the Russian Empire were not popular. But if they did happen, the “combatants” usually did not adhere to the Western European rules on the completion of the duel when inflicting the first wound. In such cases, Russian officers fought until they were fatal or seriously injured, when it would be impossible to continue the fight. The features of duels with swords or sabers were a fight either on the spot or moving only along the site chosen for the fight. Duelists went to battle with a naked torso or in one shirt.

However, in the Russian army officers preferred to shoot at duels. It was believed that the gun reduces the difference of opponents in the mastery of weapons. After all, for example, when fighting with swords, one had to have good fencing skills. In addition, the exchange of shots gave more chances of a deadly outcome of the fight. In this case, more dangerous meant more honorable to the winner.

The rules of the duel on the pistols were used different and often depended on which Duel code was used. Duelists could shoot at a time (draw) either at the same time on command, standing at the barrier or walking towards each other. In this case, the barriers could serve as pointers indicating the minimum distance that duelists could get close to each other. Usually it was from 8 to 20 steps. But it happened that they were shooting at 6 steps. In this case, the death of the fight was most likely. There were many other limitations and subtleties in organizing and conducting a duel according to the chosen Duel code.

Good shooters and skillful fencers got an undeniable advantage in fights. Justice in the defense of the honor and dignity of the officer is now increasingly dependent on the skill of owning a weapon and the experience of cold-blooded and unpunished murders, than on moral actions and progressive views. The cult of the force of arms in noble society engendered fears and social insecurity. Neither nobility of origin, nor a high military rank any longer served as a reliable defense against an accidental death in a duel.

There were different rules for challenge to a duel - in writing, orally, a slap in the face, a glove at the feet, etc. Distinguished 3 severity of the insult - from mild (verbal) to severe (insult action). Depending on this, the offended received the right to choose weapons, distance and other conditions of the fight.

Duels were appointed in defense of the honor of the officer affected at the household level. All service conflicts were resolved in the prescribed manner. It was forbidden for a subordinate to challenge his superior to a duel and vice versa. It was considered a crime against the chain of command and punished under the criminal law. By the way, in the case of receiving a call or secretly holding a fight, both the boss and the subordinate carried the punishment.

However, everything happened. During the reign of Alexander I, a duel between staff captain Kushelev and Major General Bakhmetyev took place. And the occasion was an insult six years ago. Then just arrived in the Life Guards Izmailovo regiment Kushelev for some violation Bakhmetiev hit with a stick. The duel ended without bloodshed with the reconciliation of the parties. The general apologized to the captain. However, all the participants of the fight, including the seconds, were brought to court. The sentence was cruel - Kushelev to be hanged, Bakhmetyev and all the seconds to the deprivation of ranks and nobility. In addition to one of the seconds - Count Venansson, who on the eve informed the commandant of the capital about the upcoming duel. But the king judged his own way. Kushelev was deprived of the title of the chamber junker, and Bakhmetyev was given a reprimand. Surprisingly, the most informer was a scammer who acted strictly by law. He was imprisoned for a week in a fortress, and then sent to the Caucasus.

Known and other unusual fights. So, under Nicholas II in 1908, with the knowledge of the emperor, a “general” duel took place. Former participants in the defense of Port Arthur lieutenant general A.V. Fock and K.N. Smirnov with weapons in their hands figured out the relationship. And there are many such funny cases.

Again, despite the fact that usually a duel was called upon peers, exceptions appeared over time due to the resolution of duels with civilians from noblemen. For example, in the case of publication of an article insulting an officer, the Duel Code allowed a journalist-author or editor to a duel to be published. Moreover, it was possible to challenge a duel for “secret motives”, without telling them even to the seconds.

Interestingly statistics fights at the turn of the late XIX and early XX centuries. According to I. Mikulin's calculations, made from documents for the period from 20 May 1894 to 20 May 1910, the 322 fight took place in the army after the sentences of the courts of honor: 251 between the military, 70 between the military and civilians doctors The duelists included 4 General, 14 headquarters officers, 187 captains and staff captains, 367 lieutenants, second lieutenants and warrant officers. One lieutenant participated in duels 3, four lieutenants and one second lieutenant fought twice. Twice fought with the military and two civilians.

In five cases they were cut on drafts, in two cases espadrones were used. The rest of the 315 duels took place on firearms, 15 people died on them and 17 were seriously injured. In fact, army duels were, of course, more. According to some estimates, about a third of the fights went around the court of the officers society. It happened that at the barrier converged opponents, on the eve of those sentenced by the court of honor to reconciliation.

Russian features officer fights

Foreigners believed that the Russian duel under the terms of the conduct was “bloodthirsty” of the Western European version. Indeed, sometimes the conditions of a duel with the consent of the parties were established extremely rigid. For example, A.A. Bestuzhev-Marlinsky we read: “Now about the conditions: is the barrier still at six steps? - At six. The prince does not want to hear about a greater distance. Wound only on an even shot ends a duel, flash and misfire is not a number. ” Such harsh conditions were often put forward by the parties, even if the duel itself arose because of a trifle.

In Russian dueling practice, fights were often held, in the terminology of western dueling codes, exceptional. For example, on pistols and at a distance of less than 10 steps. Or “through the handkerchief”, when only one of the two dueling pistols was charged with seconds. After that, the seconds retreated to the side, and the manager of the duel, who did not know what kind of gun was loaded, gave the participants the right to choose a weapon. Having received the pistols, the opponents took the diagonally opposite ends of the pocket shawl and, at the command of the manager, fired. The one who remained alive, found out that it was his gun that was loaded.

Some duels were arranged on the principle of Russian roulette. To her resorted to in the case of irreconcilable hostility between the arrows. Opponents stood at a distance of 5-7 steps. Of the two pistols, only one was charged. Weapons were distributed by lot. Thus, the rivals maximize the risk and chance of the outcome of the duel. In this case, the draw provided them with equal chances. Dueling rules also included a “barrel-to-barrel” duel. The difference with the previous one was only in the fact that both pistols were charging. Such a showdown often resulted in the death of both conquerors.

A duel was widespread in the Russian army, which for an unclear reason received the name American. In this case, the duel as such was replaced by suicide by the draw of one of the opponents. In Europe, at that time, such a way duels were often called Russian. One of the most famous "American duels" occurred between the two dragoon captains Leonov and Prokhorov. They were friends and both fell in love with the actress of a traveling circus. Solve the dispute persuaded the "American duel." Fateful lot fell Leonov. An officer, faithful to the word of honor, put a bullet in his heart ...

Duel plots in Russian literature

Somehow it happened that over time, the general idea of ​​the majority of our contemporaries about the honor of the royal officers and their readiness to go to a deadly duel for the sake of it, was formed under the impression of what was read in fiction. In Russian literature of the late XIX - early XX centuries, a rather critical attitude was formed towards the official permission of duels among the officers. It was quite capacious and multifaceted shown in the story of A.I. Kuprina "Duel". Of course, the famous writer, and before that - the lieutenant of the 46 Infantry Regiment of the Dnieper, knew how to preserve the officer's honor in various office and everyday situations. Events of an unexpectedly arising love triangle are dramatically described, leading to the conflict between Lieutenant Nikolayev and Second Lieutenant Romashov. It got to the scandal in the officers' meeting. The court of honor of the regiment rendered a verdict - the damage inflicted to officer honor can only be resolved in a duel. On the eve of the duel, his wife’s wife, Shurochka, came to Romashov’s apartment. I came to say goodbye, realizing that this romantic and foreign man in the army would die in the morning from an opponent’s bullet. But in order for her husband to enter the military academy and after escaping from the garrison outback, she was ready for anything. And the fight was most welcome. Romashov was ready to apologize to Nikolaev and refuse to fight. But Shura, giving him goodbye with a female caress, insisted that they shoot. She understood that the duel, which ended in reconciliation of the opponents, always raises unnecessary doubts in the regimental community of officers. Moreover, such an outcome of a duel of honor appointed by the court closed the way for her husband to the academy and ruined all her ambitious plans.
The match ended sadly. Romashov was mortally wounded and died. Because of the deceit of his beloved? Or defending your honor? Or for the good name of his colleague's wife, whom he dared to fall in love with? About this among contemporaries there was a lot of controversy. Kuprina was accused of too frankly expounding all the “charms” of the life of the provincial garrison. In addition, he truthfully conveyed the atmosphere that prevailed in the regimental court of honor. And in general, he showed the "wrong side" of officer life in the Russian army of that time.

The main theme was chosen duel in some other literary works. It is enough to look through the "Test" A.A. Bezstuzhev-Marlinsky, "Shot" A.S. Pushkin, "Big Light" V.A. Solloguba, "Yatagan" N.F. Pavlova, “Breter” I.S. Turgenev, "Duel" E.P. Rostopchina or “Duel” A.P. Chekhov. In addition, duels were described as separate plot episodes in many stories and novels. And not always even the literary duel of honor corresponded to its name. Yes, and the dignity, generosity and justice of its members are not always respected, challenging, sometimes, for very dishonest reasons. At times, a black envy of the success of another person led to a duel. Such, for example, is Silvio in Pushkin and Luchkov in Turgenev.

And the story of Count Sollogub “Big Light” in secular society was perceived as a reason for calling M. Yu. Lermontov author to a duel. After all, his contemporaries he easily guessed in the image of a young army officer Mikhail Leonin, seconded in the capital to one of the guards regiments. But the poet and the officer had the strength to resist the slander and deceit of the high society, who, ultimately, did not accept him into their ranks. The duel battle of the great spiteful critics and spitifiers did not wait.

In books and in life in duels, respectable noblemen and outright scoundrels, naive romantics and cold-blooded killers fought. Irresponsible bullies were dragging random people into a duel bout who turned out to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Here it would be appropriate to recall Herzen’s reflections on duels in “Past and Thoughts,” which led him to conclude that the duel “justifies any scoundrel either to his honorable death, or to what makes him an honorable killer”.

Among the officers in various ranks and positions there were quite a few who condemned fights in the military environment and did not hide their views, despite the approval of legalized duel killings that prevailed in the society and in the Russian army. Hot debates around the lifting of the ban on fights in officer circles began after May 1894. They took place in sharp discussions not only in the officers' meetings with the troops, but also in the pages of the military press. For example, quite often this issue was discussed in the “Scout” officer magazine. Among the open opponents of duels was, for example, such a well-known military authority as the General of Infantry M.I. Dragomir. He outlined his point of view in the special brochure “Duels” published in 1900 in Kiev. This was true because after the officers were allowed to fight a duel with the civilians of the nobility, there were new centers of tension in society.

Of course, the considered duel subjects do not claim to be exhaustive and comprehensive. Only a few, in our opinion, important aspects of the officer fights phenomenon in the Russian Imperial Army were considered. This topic remains understudied and awaits its researcher.

Duel in the Russian Imperial Army. Part of 3
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  1. +8
    1 September 2018 05: 55
    A duel. The villain insulted a good, honest, intelligent officer or nobleman. Demand for satisfaction. The villain perfectly owns all types of weapons, naturally a good, honest, intelligent officer or nobleman dies in a duel. Well, who won from this? Mutual destruction, and as a rule resulting in to the death of more dignified, but worse-wielding people.
    1. -1
      1 September 2018 06: 41
      And who forbade him to shoot such a good one will learn properly ... Welcome ... it should be with his fists ...
      1. +4
        1 September 2018 06: 44
        But it happened like this, maybe there was no time, maybe something else. Yes, and good does not always have powerful fists, although, yes, it is necessary to strive for this! Here you are right.
        1. Cat
          1 September 2018 06: 49
          What are you? According to the views of a number of members of the forum, a Russian officer should, "like a mad dog," rush at everyone and everything who looked askance at him!
          Just kidding! The problem is not even honor or nobility, but the position of society, the officer corps, the generals and the king in particular. By the way, one of the many important facts that led the empire to collapse. Posing sir, when the honor of an officer is not his duty. Substituting both concepts, the officers, especially the Life Guards regiments, considered it their duty to drink indefatigably, "fry potatoes" (see the diary of the last emperor) and fight duels. Looking at the cream of society, the provinces tried to match the metropolitan society. Although the elements of "lot", "Russian roulette" and chance, speak of the reconstruction of the "judicial duel" and "divine judgment"!
          So I join Viktor Nikolayevich (Curiors) - will they scan chess?
          Sincerely, Kitty!
          1. +6
            1 September 2018 11: 32
            So I join Viktor Nikolayevich (Curiors) - will they scan chess?

            Vladislav, we both know that Viktor Nikolayevich prefers a golf club. wink Chess is like that, for a brain workout drinks
            1. +4
              1 September 2018 11: 36
              The last time he thought about a tank.
              1. +6
                1 September 2018 13: 05
                The last time he thought about a tank.

                Our Victor Nikolaevich is growing right on the clock. fellow drinks You will communicate with everyone, inevitably, requests for weapons will grow. request Wait Anton, he’ll soon request an armored train what
      2. Cat
        1 September 2018 07: 04
        Quote: Vard
        And who forbade him to shoot such a good one will learn properly ... Welcome ... it should be with his fists ...

        According to your logic, "the one who is stronger is right - that is, it is better to shoot or swing the pieces of iron?
        Or maybe justice is a completely different concept and the truth is, alas, a different category?
        Unfortunately, the Author did not provide an analysis of why the officers fought in duels. Because of "babs", drunkenness, petty tyranny and posturing! Questions of honor were pulled like an owl on the globe and believe me, real insults and official problems in duels were resolved in a minority.
        And so, officer "N" drunk relieved himself in the presence of ladies and citizen "A". Citizen "A" reprimanded the gallant officer "H"! Because of which he was summoned to a duel and was killed ... 1904! The question is, why did officer "N" deign to drink alcoholic beverages and to fulfill his natural needs, and not to defend his homeland, on the fields of Manchuria?
        And believe such examples, many .....
        1. +15
          1 September 2018 12: 31
          Quote: Kotischa
          And so, officer "N" drunk relieved himself in the presence of ladies and citizen "A". Citizen "A" reprimanded the gallant officer "H"! Because of which he was summoned to a duel and was killed ... 1904! The question is, why did officer "N" deign to drink alcoholic beverages and to fulfill his natural needs, and not to defend his homeland, on the fields of Manchuria?

          To be honest, it is because of these questions that I am an opponent of duels. As Cardinal Richelieu used to say (by the way, he forbade duels in France) - "It is a great disaster for the state because its officers mercilessly kill each other on dueling lists, instead of jointly defeating the enemies of their country on the battlefields."
        2. +3
          1 September 2018 12: 56
          Officers of the western military districts were prohibited from being transferred to Manchuria. Some of the desperation went into the gendarmes, those translated.
        3. +6
          1 September 2018 15: 09
          Quote: Kotischa
          Honor issues pulled like an owl on the globe and believe me, real insults and official problems in duels were resolved in a minority.

          Well, General Smirnov quarreled with Fock, precisely because of these official problems, and the subsequent trial in the court for the surrender of Port Arthur. They waved their fists, so to speak, after a fight. wink Fock won, wounded Smirnov in the leg after the third shot, Smirnov did not get anywhere. They shot already with 15 steps.
          1. +4
            1 September 2018 16: 24
            That is - from ten meters. I wonder what duplicated, with such a stunning result?
            1. +5
              1 September 2018 16: 38
              I read somewhere that they fired from dueling pistols in turn, and after each pair of shots, they exchanged pistols. I don’t know how true. Although, given such results, it is likely. Smirnov made three shots, Fock - 4.
            2. +7
              1 September 2018 16: 55
              I would hit my head from a slingshot at such a distance.
              1. +4
                1 September 2018 16: 58
                So I think that they got somewhere ancient pistols. recourse
              2. +4
                1 September 2018 17: 01
                What a slingshot! Rowan from a straw!
                1. +7
                  1 September 2018 17: 59
                  Just from those slingshots that we made in childhood, a hole (hole) would be guaranteed to form a lead ball in my head at ten meters.
                  1. +5
                    1 September 2018 18: 17
                    Slingshot is the next technical level. By the way a good thing. With a certain skill, at a distance of 10 to 30 meters surpasses any injury.
                    1. +4
                      2 September 2018 01: 19
                      Of course, what trauma is there, I had a fort, a fart, only hemorrhoids with permission.
                      1. 0
                        10 November 2018 14: 45
                        Quote: Curious
                        I had a fort, fart
                        How could I explain to the opponents of the short-barrel, who believe that injuries are sufficient, that injuries reduce ownership responsibility?
                        This is not a stone in your garden.
                2. +8
                  1 September 2018 18: 57
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  Rowan of a straw!

                  We shot knitting needles with foam rubber instead of feathering from ski poles using the PFU method! smile . By the way, a very dangerous weapon turned out. First, it is fairly accurate - with a minimum skill of about ten meters, three out of five spokes fit into a pack of cigarettes. The top five arrows out of five were given in a matchbox. Secondly, the penetrating effect of the spokes was high - the crows and rats quickly became convinced of this. True, the needle that fell into the rat, the wounded beast often took with her and she was lost. But getting into the head gave a guaranteed lethal result on the spot.
                  We even played William Tell with an apple on my head. No harm done. smile Duels did not suit. smile
                  Mothers and grandmothers were only unhappy - the spokes disappeared. But then we got the hang of making steel wire darts, the coil of which we found in the barn of one kid, and everything worked out. smile
                  1. +2
                    1 September 2018 19: 54
                    In our courtyard, such weapons were also in use! Ideas are in the air, duels, thank God, things didn’t reach either.
                  2. +2
                    1 September 2018 20: 07
                    Unas school cleaning ladies were extremely unhappy with the release of the film "Don't be afraid, I'm with you." All the tin buckets disappeared in the school. The buckets were later found behind the school, and even without holes, but they began to be locked in the back room.
            3. +3
              1 September 2018 22: 14
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              That is - from ten meters. I wonder what duplicated, with such a stunning result?
              I believe there was used a reduced (let's say duel) charge of gunpowder, so duel pistols were taken, and not say revolvers. This is most likely regulated by a dueling code. And so I don’t know how not to get from 10 meters ... request
              1. 0
                3 September 2018 11: 01
                There still a significant part of the powder gases was vented through the pilot hole. As a result, the initial speed was 200-180 m / s and even lower. It seems that this was done on purpose, to minimize the consequences of injury. It happened that a bullet could not, for example, pierce the sternum (central bone in the chest).
                1. 0
                  10 November 2018 15: 03
                  Quote: brn521
                  There still a significant part of the powder gases was vented through the pilot hole.
                  When the codes mentioned were written - flintlock pistols were already only in museums. Could be capsule.
                  Another thing is gunpowder, bullets and a method of loading. Smoke can be strewed at least 50% of the trunk - it just does not burn through the whole. Bullets are not of the same shape, uneven obturation, a shot of gunpowder ... all this is accuracy, the energy of a shot ...
              2. 0
                10 November 2018 14: 50
                Quote: Nikolai Nikolaevich
                And so I don’t know how not to get from 10 meters ...
                Duel pistols are usually single shot. By application, accuracy, etc. - about like a wasp.
                Duelist - the film gives some idea ...
      3. +1
        1 September 2018 20: 44
        In the satya, the circumstances of the choice of weapons are not correctly defined, the weapon selects the duel called. There was a case when A.S. Pushkin summoned a cavalry officer to a duel, he chose dragoon broadswords and the duel did not take place ...
  2. +6
    1 September 2018 06: 34
    “Somehow it so happened that over time, the general idea of ​​most of our contemporaries about the honor of tsarist officers and their readiness to go to a mortal duel for it, formed under the impression of what they read in fiction. In Russian literature of the late XIX - early XX centuries, a rather critical attitude towards the official permission of duels among officers. "
    1. Cat
      1 September 2018 07: 15
      Everything is correct Victor Nikolaevich. A person whom the state cherishes and cherishes in peacetime, even pays his allowance, must not have his own "personal" honor and within the framework of his "understanding and understanding", but duty and responsibility to the Motherland and Fatherland. Moreover, he is obliged to apply skills and abilities not because of the "babs", but to protect the state. By the way - "not sparing his belly."
      1. +13
        1 September 2018 07: 17
        “How many fights have we seen for a just cause?” And then it’s all for the actresses, for the cards, for the horses or for a portion of ice cream, ”wrote Alexander Bestuzhev-Marlinsky in the story“ Test ”.
      2. +4
        1 September 2018 11: 37
        Vladislav, here the esteemed Fil77 said down the branch about the courts of honor. Do they have it now? Has anyone ever seen their conduct during the service? me not. hi
        1. Cat
          1 September 2018 17: 46
          Courts of honor were abolished as early as mid-00, in 2008 they introduced the Commission on official discipline and professional ethics. In 2016, they were also abolished! Propaganda of the principle of unity of command and contradictions with federal law!
        2. +4
          1 September 2018 22: 07
          Quote: Mikado
          Has anyone ever seen their conduct during the service?
          There were officer courts, but they took place under the strict guidance and according to the plan of the political officer (well, or the commander) ..., it could be said that the leadership courts with the presence of officers ... the CPSU taxied ... request
  3. +1
    1 September 2018 07: 17
    The peculiarities of duels on swords or sabers were a fight or without leaving a place

    As I understand it is a German duel duel, but is it like entertaining students, not officers?
    1. +1
      1 September 2018 07: 25
      Another copy of the * civilized * Western experience. There is entertainment and nonsense of students, and we have the whim of the nobility.
  4. +3
    1 September 2018 08: 45
    Informative article, for a first approximation, it turned out quite well. Agree with Cat (Vladislav Kotische), the officer corps is taught for the war, and not for the showdown, who will get what kind of "milliner". From the text of the article it is not clear how to duel through a scarf - did the duelists shoot at point-blank range?
    1. +4
      1 September 2018 15: 14
      Quote: Aviator_
      From the text of the article, the method of dueling through a handkerchief is incomprehensible - did the duelists shoot at point blank range?

      Yeah, there each clutching at one end of his handkerchief.
  5. +16
    1 September 2018 09: 10
    Yes, a difficult situation. I thought that tougher penalties for dueling could eradicate them. But he was mistaken. I don’t know what to do so that they are gone.
    Remember the readers of "VO" themselves as boys. Many in childhood fought with the same boys "until the first blood." I fought. Now I'm sorry.
    Yes, I don't know what recipe to propose so that this does not happen in society. After all, great people perished from this stupidity, and scoundrels, mercenaries and "bad people" continued to live and create meanness.
    1. +3
      1 September 2018 09: 33
      In my opinion, the best option for resolving conflicts is the court of officer honor. If I am not mistaken, they were in the Russian army. But again, the question is impartiality, and who are the judges? It is difficult to answer, maybe someone will offer a better solution?
      1. +3
        1 September 2018 10: 43
        I heard that in the post-war era, the courts of officer honor were restored, but liquidated under Khrushchev Kukuruznoy.
      2. +5
        1 September 2018 11: 35
        If I am not mistaken, they were in the Russian army.

        I don't know if they exist now, but twenty years ago they still existed "according to documents." True, I have not seen a single one during the years of service. hi
        1. +3
          1 September 2018 12: 51
          Dear Mikado, I had in mind the courts of honor of the Russian Imperial Army, and twenty years ago, the courts of honor of the Soviet Army could analyze probably the unseemly actions of the officers, well, * immorality *, but not a duel. You imagine a duel of Soviet officers. Nonsense, I'm sorry!
          1. +3
            1 September 2018 13: 08
            Imagine a duel of Soviet officers. Nonsense, sorry!

            Yes, of course. Sorry, I'm talking. drinks I just do not remember in my memory a single court of honor in modern realities. The verification will be carried out, the order will be issued - that's all. And no extra meetings. request
            1. +1
              1 September 2018 18: 08
              Although, if you make up for it, very good would like to see the physiognomy of the political officer of the part where such a surprise would have happened! Well, ears would surely be curled up!
        2. BAI
          1 September 2018 14: 21
          True, I have not seen a single one during the years of service.

          I didn’t see it myself, but on the reading of orders I read out the decision of the court of officer honor (beating my wife). 1 or 2 times. In the 90s.
          I don’t even remember - it was from the garrison or from reading orders of Glaucus or the Ministry of Defense.
          The officers' fight ended in a banal demotion in the rank of junior in rank.
        3. +1
          1 September 2018 16: 06
          To initiate such a court, it was necessary to ask permission up to the district commander. Hedgehog it is clear that he will not allow it, and they won’t ask him. In our time, it would generally turn into a circus with all these social networks and streams. In the days of the USSR, the punishment was dismissal from the army, public censure could break one’s whole life, but now all do not care!
          1. Cat
            1 September 2018 17: 57
            I will smile!
            In the early 90s, my father was given a public censure at a court of honor! For my beloved, for having swallowed the "scoundrel"! By the way, I was registered with the IDN. Fortunately, my dad was wise and together with me he began to go to the gym. We were engaged in weightlifting. A year later, just no one dared to think about contacting me.
            When I entered the higher school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the professional selection, I was asked the question of what I was registered for. I answered for the "scoundrel", my PFL grade was lowered to "oud", but not hacked to death.
            1. +5
              2 September 2018 00: 48
              When I entered the higher school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the professional selection, I was asked the question of what I was registered for. I answered for the "scoundrel", my PFL grade was lowered to "oud", but not hacked to death.

              that's fate, so fate! good you never predict its bends. Your father was wise, you will not say anything. hi And at the exit .. in front of us is an honored officer! (that is, you!) soldier
  6. BAI
    1 September 2018 09: 59
    The duel kit, as a rule, was used only once and was not intended for other fights.

    This phrase is doubtful, because it is known that during the duel between Pushkin and Dantes, both participants used other people's weapons. Pushkin shot from pistols rented for him by Danzas. Unfortunately, they did not survive. Dantesu were pistols were given to him by the second d'Archiac, who lent them from his friend Baron Ernest de Barant. Currently, this pair of pistols is stored in the museum of the French city of Amboise.
    1. +4
      1 September 2018 10: 27
      And in the St. Petersburg apartment-museum of Pushkin, a couple of his own "Lepages" are kept.
      1. +1
        2 September 2018 23: 16
        By the way, Lepage, at that time / sorry for the phone photo / were "equipped" with a front sight. Upon learning, I was embarrassed. I thought a lot.
  7. +3
    1 September 2018 10: 02
    There is a classic book about duels, though mainly in England, by Joseph Hamilton, "Weapons and Dueling Rules" http://mirknig.su/knigi/military_history/221275-oruzhie-i-pravila-dueley.html
    It describes everything in detail, and also attaches great importance to how society fought against duels. Read-interesting.
  8. BAI
    1 September 2018 10: 10
    The legalization of duels in the Russian Imperial Army was directly dealt with by the Minister of War, Infantry General P.S. Vannovsky. His order on officer fights was conceived with the aim of increasing the prestige of the officer rank in society and was to strengthen the officer’s self-esteem and respect.

    As a result, if from 1876 to 1890 only 14 cases of officer duels reached the court (in 2 of them the opponents were acquitted); then from 1894 to 1910 322 duels took place, of which 256 - by decision of the courts of honor, 47 - with the permission of military commanders and 19 unauthorized (not one of them reached the criminal court). From 4 to 33 fights in the army took place annually (on average - 20). According to the data of General Mikulin, from 1894 to 1910 in the officer duels participated as opponents: 4 generals, 14 staff officers, 187 captains and staff captains, 367 junior officers, 72 civilians. Out of 99 insulting duels, 9 ended in a grave outcome, 17 - a minor wound and 73 - bloodless. Of the 183 duels of grave insult, 21 ended in a grave outcome, 31 - a minor wound and 131 - bloodless. Thus, an insignificant number of fights — 10–11% of the total number — still ended in the death of one of the opponents or with a serious wound. Of all 322 duels, 315 took place on pistols and only 7 on swords or sabers. Of these, in 241 matches (that is, in 3/4 cases), one pool was fired, in 49 two, in 12 three, in one four and one in six bullets; the distance ranged from 12 to 50 steps. The intervals between insulting and duel ranged from one day to ... three years (!), But most often - from two days to two and a half months (depending on the length of the proceedings by the court of honor).
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    3 September 2018 10: 13
    The problem is that we are trying to judge those times from the perspective of the current understanding ... But then everything was different ... Including the concept of honor ...
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    3 September 2018 11: 17
    And what about the non-commissioned officers' duels? By the way, as far as I remember, according to some tales, the Austro-Hungarian non-commissioned officers began to "swing the pendulum", who arranged duels with revolvers.

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