Is the space industry in Russia going through hard times?

According to the information agency Interfax, the situation in the Russian space industry leaves much to be desired. It is to such conclusions that the leadership of the country arrived, Vice-Premier Yury Borisov told reporters today.

Borisov said that the state of the space industry is under the direct control of the Russian president, who has held two meetings in recent months on this issue.

In addition, according to sources, the leadership of the state corporation Roscosmos plans to make personnel changes at key enterprises of the rocket and space industry.

In particular, the post of head of the Progress Rocket and Space Center will most likely be taken by Dmitry Baranov, who previously worked at the same enterprise as Deputy General Designer. However, official confirmation of this information has not yet been reported.

The reshuffle of the leadership also does not avoid the Khrunichev Center and the RSC Energia, Interfax reports, citing an authoritative source in the rocket and space industry.

The delegation headed by Yury Borisov visited RSC Energia today. From the message press service "Roscosmos":

Dmitry Rogozin noted the importance of creating a project for the Soyuz-5 medium-launch vehicle complex as a stage in the formation of a super heavy-duty space rocket complex.

Yury Borisov noted that plans for the period up to 2020 were discussed, including the implementation of the project of the manned ship "Federation", and added:

I think the team of Energia and Roskosmos understand what needs to be done in the near future, everyone is set to work constructively and improve the situation.

Apparently, this way today they are trying to solve the problems associated with violations identified by the Accounts Chamber. Recall that at the end of June, the Chairman of the Accounts Chamber, Alexei Kudrin, said that the state corporation revealed violations in the amount of 760 billion rubles, for some facts criminal cases were opened.

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[Gray brother]

The best times ended with the USSR, which is where the fortune-telling has come — they have not come, and so everything is obvious.

[pariarg]

Quote: Gray Brother

The best times ended with the USSR, which is where the fortune-telling has come — they have not come, and so everything is obvious.

moreover, they ended with the death of the Queen ..
and since then - good by inertia, and bad by the whim of superiors.

[Infinity]

True, in the USSR there really was a slight decline after the triumph of the 60s, but I would not be so categorical at once. Yes, sometimes they were in too much of a hurry (the death of Komarov). But I think that not only "kicks from above" moved. People dreamed, people worked, people did. And that was the main thing, it seems to me. And then the 90s came ... It turned out to be problematic to work and do. Although the situation has improved since the 90s, the almost 30-year-old Angara with 2 launches, and LV accidents (a series of Proton accidents a couple of years ago), AMS (Mars-96, Phobos-Grunt) "grow" from here. ), satellites (the same "Angosat"), transferring dates for many years, compared with the initial plans (module "Science", CC "Federation") ....

Therefore, I am very glad that upstairs they remembered about space (if this is really so)! At last! Surely they had been ill with their stupid Olympiads and World Cup, remembered about the future of mankind?! ...

[pariarg]

Quote: Infinity

It is true that in the USSR there really was a slight decline after the triumph of the 60s, but I would not be so categorical right away.

All available space technology is from the 60s.
RN Soyuz, spacecraft Soyuz, RN Proton.
Despite a lot of money thrown out in the 70s and 80s.
It seems that from the late 60s purposefully washed up the space theme.

[maxim947]

Do not write nonsense. The development went on increasing, up to the 90s, and this is Zenith, Energy-Buran, the same accelerators of the alliances and protons you mentioned, plus deep space, you don’t need to remind about military subjects ... As the money ran out, so the space wilted , however, like everything else

[zyzx]

Not a fig, I'm forty, but here is such a gift from the president and the government, now you can fly into space up to 65, there are still chances!

[dr.star75]

You can go to study as an astronaut, but only you are still young. That will be 60 for you, then feel free to submit an application for retraining, and they will not be able to refuse you, because otherwise, the criminal liability

[Nikolai]

I think the team of Energia and Roskosmos understand what needs to be done in the near future, everyone is set to work constructively and improve the situation.

And before that all the time it was not clear, well, at the end it was explained ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: zyzx

You can now fly into space up to 65, there are still chances!

Yeah. One way. Just in time for your pension, the process of launching pensioners into space will become massive, well-functioning and compulsory.

[svp67]

Drive "effective managers" from there, with their relatives ... you look, things will get better.

[ANCIENT]

Sergei - the infection in the regrowth has taken root too deeply, only shooting will help! !!

[Cabbage]

Quote: svp67

Drive "effective managers" from there, with their relatives ... you look, things will get better.

Also such an idea is constantly gnawing Sergey. Theft and nepotism there! And they do not allow real creative employees to work .. I still hoped that Putin would clean up the government and the military-industrial complex, etc. ...
And he cleans the Rosguard and now he decided to rob the elderly citizens .. Oh, Russia is a naive soul ..

[gurta]

Drive "effective managers" from there, with their relatives ... you look, things will get better.

Abizatelnaya. You dial up Mikhanov dial up for a nice soul.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Koal

Theft and nepotism are there! And they do not allow real creative employees to work .. I still hoped that Putin would clean up the government and the military-industrial complex, etc. ...

Rogozin’s son is the head of the corporation Il. He recently announced that our return steps will be planned. Another big money will be allocated for this, half of Russia will work for this project

[ANCIENT]

And how many more will leadership change? Maybe the problems need to be solved differently - for example, should our cosmonautics be considered a state priority, and it is in this area that the latest ideas and technologies that should be created specifically for development have grown to the maximum? And the fact that Vanka is being exchanged for Fedka, and then vice versa, all this hassle has not grown to benefit.

[Gray brother]

Quote: ANCIENT

And the fact that Vanka is being exchanged for Fedka, and then vice versa, all this hassle has not grown to benefit.

There, some of the vans went to the edge, and in the field of assimilation of funds, they were "dizzy with success." When there is not enough evidence for criminal prosecution, there is only one thing to "shake".

[YarSer88]

It's time to privatize this business. Only private property will make space work. In state hands it will be a space-sized feeding trough, no more.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: YarSer88

It's time to privatize this business.

The latter will be sold, but run away.

[YarSer88]

In this case, there are no prospects at all, if you give it into competent hands, this asset can bring no less oil. You can weed out the "salesmen" by banning the sale / assignment / division for 50 years.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: YarSer88

In this case, there are no prospects at all,

There are long-term prospects and too many investments are needed, not a single private trader will pull.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Mordvin 3

The latter will be sold, but run away.

You forgot to "bankrupt" and only then "run away", although no one will run away, they will be given a new direction.

[Gray brother]

Quote: YarSer88

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It's time to privatize this business. Only private property will make space work.

We have been through this already. They will use state funds trying to spend less on business and then:

Quote: Mordvin 3

The latter will be sold, but run away.

[YarSer88]

They will be sawed in state hands until they turn blue, they will plant some - other saws will be uncovered, and space will remain a by-product of sawing. In that case, for me, it’s a terrible end than horror without an end.

[Gray brother]

Quote: YarSer88

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In state hands they’ll cut until they turn blue,

Bad life is better than good death.

[Pontiffsulyvahn]

Well, yes, and now they are not mastering state funds? Money is falling from the ceiling, not otherwise.

[DEDPIHTO]

It's time to privatize this business. Only private property will make space work. In state hands it will be a space-sized feeding trough, no more

So create a private alternative, invest money and in a good way. And the rest, Mordvin 3 answered you and he is right ... there are too many people who want to make money for free and at the same time earn points for themselves before the Anglo-Saxons, having completely destroyed the space industry.

[Blackmokona]

Is it like the S-7s who are whining now that they were thrown by the state or Dauria that they threw for money in Rosskosmos just to not recognize the emergency breeding of satellites?

[dr.star75]

To privatize again? It has not yet come to light that the private-profitable is a fiction. And it works only on very small shops? America has created shuttles in a private shop? And the mask is sawing, and will soon close his shop.

[Blackmokona]

Shuttle Manufacturers

Manufacturer
United Space Alliance:
Thiokol / Alliant Techsystems (SRBs)
Lockheed Martin (Martin Marietta) - (ET)
Rockwell / Boeing (orbiter)

And Musk brought a ready-made ship to the spaceport and prepared a launch table, waiting for NASA's pieces of paper for launch.

[dr.star75]

Just about, pieces of paper waiting .... And for a long time to wait? And astronauts launched by him, where to do that?

[Blackmokona]

NASA appointed a drone in November this year, manned for April 2019, in April 2019, the contract with Russia ends, so NASA will no longer rewrite requirements

[dr.star75]

Unmanned is a slag. You can start a beer can and admire it for a long time. (we have been launching such since 1957). But in April 2019 I will very closely monitor space (well, after 1961, of course). I just suspect that in March 2019 there will be some problems and the launch will be postponed. Get lost?

[Nedokomsomolets]

Nothing wrong. If it doesn’t work out, they will come back to Roskosmos and buy another three years in advance tickets.
Or will not be sold?

[Sergey Pavlov]

"leaves much to be desired" - a typo.

[HAM]

It seems that Rogozin is the second Chubais ..... for whatever it takes .. some talk ...

[Vladimir Postnikov]

What they taught, then knows how.

[APASUS]

Interesting steps, Rogozin promises everyone, but the leadership of the Khrunichev Center and RSC Energia, the Progress Rocket and Space Center were to blame And what personal responsibility did Comrade Rogozin bear? After all, it was he who voiced almost the flights to Mars on the Angara rocket

[Hole puncher]

Strange, no one has ever mentioned a "mask bankrupt and a mask fraudster" ...

[dr.star75]

Why is this all of a sudden? "Musk bankrot and mashenik" has already launched so many cosmonauts, it is impossible to fly in orbit. Well, the satellites are generally uncountable. Yes, and Mars are already walking on Mars. : You must have gone somewhere?

[voyaka uh]

"Well, satellites are generally uncountable" ////
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Satellites are easy to calculate: 59 successful launches of Falcons (out of 61). Launches in 2017 and 2018 are about two each month. Each launch is usually a large (3 -9 tons) communications satellite. There were launches of 10 small satellites.

[dr.star75]

Satellites can also be launched with a vigorous missile, if the disc is replaced. But the astronaut is already more complicated. Has Musk already launched a dog and a monkey? Or will he start immediately with African Americans?

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: dr.star75

Musk already launched a dog and a monkey?

Well, he drove the mice on the first Dragon-a modification
Proposed by the same scheme and people, but NASA does not approve

[Awaz]

It is necessary to create conditions for directly workers and designers, such that people's eyes would burn and the desire was to work and create. The fact that they change leaders is just a change of those who are well "warmed up" to the hungry and the angry. They will continue to steal according to the same schemes until they are removed again and so on ad infinitum, until Roscosmos is left with a small office of those who will organize agreements with the Chinese Americans or someone else to launch satellites into orbit to provide any then the needs of Russia.

[Mauricio]

Is the space industry in Russia going through hard times?

Can not be! These are all the machinations of Ilona Mask!

[Sergey Ui]

Off topic, but they write that in Donetsk Zakharchenko was blown up

[Samara_63]

So with the RCC Progress a year ago, the best design engineers left, where nepotism flourishes ... and theft!

[Million]

Logically. So someone is going through better times.

[Bshkaus]

I would say that it is not just "not the best times" here, but "a cute furry animal".
The second happened today! this year, the depressurization of the Soyuz this year (remember the first time in April, when the Americans reported it, after which we had to confirm). If trucks used to fall, now the manned ships have problems. And that's all, ahead of the launch of the manned Dragon in April 2019. Even if it flies not in April, but in December 2019, or even April 2020, the couch patriots will rejoice, but that doesn't matter anymore. In any case, for those who are in the subject, back in the 17th year it was clear that the 18th would be the last year of the monopoly in the delivery of foreigners.
And then the next question: New Dragons and bad rumor about already crappy "Soyuz", and after all, not only we and the Americans fly to the ISS, there are also Canadians, Italians, Germans, etc. guests who see these "cracks" with their own eyes. It is here on the Earth that Rosskosmos is silent, having filled its mouth with water, even VO did not publish any material about the accident on the ISS in a day, and the cosmonauts see everything, unlike us, and they also draw conclusions.
And the problem is that we are completely losing technology, there is no point in changing the leadership team, which wakes with a serious face stamping their feet, cover everyone with obscenities and effectively manage. The real work is in workshops where production is degrading.
Now we are launching at least 4 "Soyuz" a year, like it or not, you have to constantly work not without problems, and the Americans will tear off a piece of the pie, so only 2 "Soyuz" wakes up, the rest as the "minibus" is filled. I am very afraid that then we will completely forget how to do serial production.
In some organizations, there is no one to work stupidly, there are 2-3 75-85 year old pensioners left who no longer need anything but a quiet life.
And you can't say it out loud, we have a "patriot" when you only praise and extol, and any criticism, any indication of weaknesses and shortcomings is already a "fifth column", "a protege of the State Department."
I could tell you how the products were developed for the "Federation", everything turned out beautifully on digital drawings, awards, youth promotions, and how they embodied it in metal, it could not do without tears, it does not correspond to any technical specification, so Rogozin is right about the trampoline ...

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Bshkaus

The real work is in workshops where production is degrading.

In workshops, with CADs, in laboratories - where the performers work. To organize the work of the performers and coordinate it, competent engineers are needed, not effective managers. You need to understand how and where to redistribute resources that are always limited. Effective managers have a different motivation for redistribution.
Another motivation. This is one of the main reasons why the economy in Russia is not growing.
Another motivation.

[dr.star75]

Those. When our rockets at the start were falling like leaves in the fall, was everything good? And now they suddenly woke up that there were problems in the space industry. So that's it, it's too late to drink Borjomi. Not "the sign needs to be changed, but the girls." We rolled back to the 30s. It is necessary to search for young people again, train them in universities, and re-create design bureaus. And most importantly: to drive "effective managers" with a filthy broom. And do not let the cannon shot. And the effectiveness of managers should be assessed as follows: give 100 rubles and let them create a plant that makes a profit, and not as it is now: they will give a powerful plant, and they will knock down the locksmiths, sell the machines, and report on efficiency!

[sabakina]

Since April, Russia has ceased to deliver astronauts to the ISS. Trampoline or Musk? Probably...

[Infinity]

He is. Well, also Boeing with its Starliner. But he is a bit later, but also 2019 ... There is still Orion, but even later.

[dr.star75]

Neither one nor the other. They do not need an astronaut in a barrel at a height of 300 km. But why do we need him?

[Stoler]

Introduce a new tax for all Russians - Space !!!! And then what does everyone use glonass, TV and other benefits ??? The TV turns on and then Putin is like - "Dear citizens of Russia.! Dear Friends .... trawling .... I ask you to treat this with understanding. !!!!!"

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Oranges will not be born from aspen, and the last orange tree has long been cut down into a space barbecue!
At the helm are successful twisted people with the necessary connections, research institutes write reports on reports, build recreation centers on the southern borders of the Moscow region, and a hungry bespectacled genius plants potatoes in the country — you need to feed your family ..... What kind of space can you talk about under a monarchical " succession of "generations from the father-director to the son-deputy for commercial issues!?!? Institute for Spacesuits? And then the grandson-student is on the way, even if he is also in a swing, he will practice!
That's how we "fly to the stars" ....
Drive away the whole shusher today with a filthy broom, select all non-core tsotsks, only specialists, only Scientists, only engineers and provide them with conditions where they need to work in space, not potatoes!

[Ros 56]

Again, under the control of the president, and on our own without the guardianship of the president, someone can do something with us. Most Medvedev fucked up with his government hopmenager. For what these clowns get such dibs, and even earn extra money in all the top companies, then vice, then vice and there they still row in your pocket. Eh Russia, you just do not understand the mind.

[vadsonen]

Again under the control of the president,

"Under the control of the president" means that the president puts only his own people there. And theirs are the same ..., in general, like the president himself.
To develop space is not to lay a pipe.

[Heterocapsa]

Yes, there is no industry that is going through better times.

[pariarg]

Quote: Heterocapsa

Yes, there is no industry that is going through better times.

Putin is not on them

[dr.star75]

Well, yes, of course! And the pension fund?

[iouris]

Now it's called "bad times" ... Romantic.

[pafegosoff]

Not the best?
Korolev died, and so it ended.