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German media: you can not remain hostage to the American president

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European countries should not be led by the United States and refuse a new gas pipeline, a newspaper columnist believes Time and patience Theo Sommer.



According to Sommer, the German government should not become a hostage of the American president and refuse to build the “Nord Stream-2”, which is beneficial to the whole of Europe. Everyone who looks at the gas pipeline through the prism of American politics should understand that Europe is far from dependence on Russian gas.

“What kind of dependence are we talking about?”, Writes the browser. Today, only 40% of Germany’s gas is supplied from Russia. The rest comes from Norway, Holland and other countries. He recalled that in 1990, the share of Russian natural fuel in the German market was significantly higher.

In addition, Germany, like the rest of the European Union, really needs an increase in supply amid the abandonment of nuclear energy (up to 2022 of the year) and production cuts in individual countries. And Russia is a proven partner, it has never let recipients down, even during the Cold War.

Sommer also noted that recently the energy situation in Europe has improved significantly, new gas pipelines have connected western countries with Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Ukraine, 30 terminals for liquefied gas have been built in the EU. At the same time, the LNG imposed by the United States costs 25 cents more expensive than the Russian.

He is confident that the actions of Donald Trump, who is trying to freeze the construction of the Nord Stream-2, and his unreasonable sanctions threats only harm the European Union. Soon, according to him, the European consumer will feel the whole "charm" of his actions in the form of a significant increase in prices.

With the hot-tempered and impermanent Trump, the USA has become an unreliable partner. A lover of writing morning tweets can easily leave Europe without liquefied gas if an anti-German attack suddenly takes hold again, Sommer concluded.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 August 2018 12: 13
    +3
    European countries should not follow in the wake of the United States and abandon the new gas pipeline, says The Zeommer, columnist for Die Zeit newspaper.

    ... the "reviewer" is not yet a chancellor, and does not even sit in the Bundestag, he talked - and forgot ...
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 31 August 2018 12: 19
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... the "reviewer" is not yet a chancellor, and does not even sit in the Bundestag, he talked - and forgot ...

      How to know how to know? The Germans also "forgot" about migrants in their time. Now Cho's going on in Deutschland. If they forget about the SP-2, then in the case when
      Morning tweeter can easily leave Europe without liquefied gas
      Germans will have to drown in winter with migrants.
      1. Going
        Going 31 August 2018 12: 24
        +1
        They need to stop the occupation of their country, otherwise all their attempts and Wishlist are useless.
        1. novel66
          novel66 31 August 2018 12: 41
          +4
          healthy hi freedom must be won - who will give it that way? not the Yankees. for sure!
          1. Going
            Going 31 August 2018 12: 43
            -1
            Good time ! hi let them conquer. and then they reason.
            1. NG inform
              NG inform 31 August 2018 12: 52
              -2
              They have already tried several times, albeit quietly chasing under the Americans - this is the very case when it is not a pity. Given that the Germans do not give birth to children - they will be quickly and humanely replaced by Africans. I believe that it should be so.
        2. NG inform
          NG inform 31 August 2018 12: 42
          +3
          Only the USSR thought of voluntarily ending the occupation.
        3. aszzz888
          aszzz888 31 August 2018 12: 46
          +1

          Going (Victor) Today, 12: 24

          ... everything goes to the fact that it is ALREADY too late for the Germans to drink Borjomi ... there is not much left before the occupation by their migrants ... let them compare under whom it is better to be, otherwise they still remember and hay our "occupation" in 45th. ..
      2. novel66
        novel66 31 August 2018 12: 40
        +6
        Germans will have to drown in winter with migrants
        - hard! although another question is who will drown who
        1. NG inform
          NG inform 31 August 2018 12: 53
          -5
          I stand for helping migrants. Think about where you got the idea to worry about Germans, not migrants (which is logical from all sides).
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 31 August 2018 13: 45
            +4
            Quote: NG inform
            I stand for helping migrants. Think about where you got the idea to worry about Germans, not migrants

            And here I am, for the Germans. I believe that in the event of the formation of an economic and military union of Russia and Germany, kirdyk will come to the entire, to put it mildly, same-sex economic and political world order. Although it’s not worth it to measure all with one arshin, for the most part, migrants to Europe, who are they? People who abandoned their country in a moment of danger and are not going to return. Living on unemployment benefits and at the same time crap in the country that sheltered them. If we hypothetically imagine the complete victory of migrants in Germany followed by this reformatting of German society, then what will we get in the end? Mordor in the place of an economically prosperous country. With all the ensuing consequences for the neighbors. My firm conviction: migrants are a weapon of the USA against the EU. The Germans, in this regard, seem to have seen their sight at last. I hope that with SP-2 they will itch quickly.
            1. NG inform
              NG inform 31 August 2018 14: 20
              -1
              You are for your killers. For the population of the country, which until recently set as its goal to kill us all.
              This is completely abnormal, think about it.
              The economic prosperity of Germany is a spit in our faces from the USA, they specifically did this to spoil us. Why are you guided by other people's interests?
              1. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 31 August 2018 14: 59
                -1
                Quote: NG inform
                You are for your killers.

                I prefer to contact you. We're not in jail.
                Quote: NG inform
                For the population of the country, which until recently set as its goal to kill us all.

                All wars end in peace. The current Germans do not consider us enemies (with the exception of individual victims of propaganda). Our killers today are not Germans.
                Quote: NG inform
                The economic prosperity of Germany is a spit in our face from the United States, they specifically did this to spoil us.

                The economic prosperity of Germany, or rather our lag behind it, is a spit in our face from our own government.
                Quote: NG inform
                Why are you guided by other people's interests?

                No foreign interests. Only their selfish. I believe that the future of Russia is an alliance with leading European states, primarily with Germany. In the team with the Africans (Arabs) we will not go far.
                1. NG inform
                  NG inform 31 August 2018 20: 01
                  -2
                  > I prefer contacting "you". We're not in jail.
                  We are on the internet. I have been here since its inception. In those days, he was available only to his own people, therefore, in many forums, a respectful "you" was accepted as a person of his circle, and an alternative address was read as "who are you?"
                  Then others ran in and began to learn how to communicate.
                  > All wars end in peace. The current Germans do not consider us enemies
                  No matter what they consider. This has a null value. Actions are of real importance, and they are fighting against us even now, so they need to be perceived.
                  > The economic prosperity of Germany, or rather our lag behind her, is a spit in our face from our own government.
                  Who made the US pump Germany with resources and orders? And then hysteria that the weak and half-killed USSR badly pumps up the resources of the GDR?
                  Spitting in the face is stupid statements and your xenopathriotism.
                  > I believe that the future of Russia
                  You have not learned lessons at all. The Germans do not consider you a person. You can stand before them as much as you like - they will not begin to respect you.
              2. dvina71
                dvina71 31 August 2018 15: 34
                +1
                Quote: NG inform
                For the population of the country, which until recently set as its goal to kill us all

                Even later, the population of another country ... it was no longer there. It was ready shoulder to shoulder with the USSR CA to rush to the English Channel.
                "Hitlers come and go, but Germany remains." IVS.
                1. NG inform
                  NG inform 31 August 2018 22: 48
                  -1
                  A small part. And the rest was getting ready and is preparing for war against us.
          2. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 31 August 2018 15: 32
            +1
            It’s easier to negotiate with Germans than with migrants. Second as a locust
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 31 August 2018 12: 42
        +4
        Polite Elk (Alexander) Today, 12: 19

        ... I mean, little depends on such observers, or rather, nothing .... of course, unfortunately, but the fact that their migrants have fun is something they have been told for a long time, and that it’s only flowers the campaign is now all of them there .. yesterday on TV they showed: a German woman posted on the Internet that she brought the child to kindergarten, and of the 23 children in the kindergarten, no one speaks German ... now this is the bell of the Fuhrer!
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 31 August 2018 12: 50
          +2
          Quote: aszzz888
          ... I mean, little depends on such observers, or rather nothing ...

          Such observers shape public opinion. Sooner or later they will be heard. But they won’t hear it — they (the Germans) are worse off.
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 31 August 2018 13: 51
            -1
            Polite Elk (Alexander) Today, 12: 50
            Sooner or later they will be heard.

            ... I agree that a drop wears away a stone, but how many such drops are needed in German? ...
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 31 August 2018 14: 04
              +1
              Quote: aszzz888
              .. agrees that a drop wears away a stone, but how many such drops are needed in German? ..

              Actually, not that much. In 3-4 major publications and on 2-3 central TV channels once a week to launch reports on the need to build SP-2 and strengthen friendship with Russia, so in 2-3 months in all taverns "Katyusha" and "Kalinka-malinka" will be sung.
        2. NG inform
          NG inform 31 August 2018 12: 54
          0
          Here, just recently, the son of Chikatila complained that he was being oppressed - will you worry too much for him?
        3. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 31 August 2018 15: 35
          0
          . No one speaks german

          Good news anyway wassat
      4. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 31 August 2018 13: 23
        +1
        a good thought, they will kill two birds with one stone (although it’s not geyropeski, it’s not tolerant lol )
    2. Kurare
      Kurare 31 August 2018 12: 20
      +3
      The problem is not with politicians, there are enough pragmatists among them. The problem is sanctions against German / European companies. If they participate in the project, they will be included in the US sanctions list. And companies operating on a global level cannot afford this.
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 31 August 2018 12: 21
      +2
      . At the same time, US-imposed LNG costs 25 cents more than Russian

      LNG can't be only a quarter more expensive request than piping. This is real dumping.
      True, the browser himself then answers:
      Soon, according to him, the European consumer will feel the whole “charm” of his (Trump) actions in the form of a significant increase in prices fellow .
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 31 August 2018 12: 22
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      European countries should not follow in the wake of the United States and abandon the new gas pipeline, says The Zeommer, columnist for Die Zeit newspaper.

      ... the "reviewer" is not yet a chancellor, and does not even sit in the Bundestag, he talked - and forgot ...

      That’s for sure, sound voices are often heard in Germany, but this is in order to show pluralism)) In fact, the Germans do not have their own foreign policy and if the states put a lot of pressure on them, they will have to choose either the American market, which is what their industry, or Russian gas, which is cheaper than others .. I think they will choose the American market ..
  2. Barzha
    Barzha 31 August 2018 12: 24
    +2
    At the same time, LNG imposed by the USA is worth 25 cents more expensive than Russian.

    A very small mistake smiled. laughing 25% off! And this is the price of ex-port. Add to it port charges, pumping and liquefaction, storage and transportation to the consumer. It turns out that the price of American LNG for consumers is 1,5 times or more more than the Russian pipe price. And this is not only energy, but also, to a large extent, raw materials for the chemical industry.
  3. Troll
    Troll 31 August 2018 12: 31
    0
    I wanted to clarify about these 25 cents. What is 25 cents more expensive? Kilogram? Cubic meter? 100 cubic meters?
    The above link does not lead to an article but to a newspaper, which hmm .. inconvenient.
    1. Troll
      Troll 31 August 2018 12: 45
      -1
      above said about 25%. Taken.
    2. LMN
      LMN 31 August 2018 16: 26
      0
      Quote: Troll
      I wanted to clarify about these 25 cents. What is 25 cents more expensive? Kilogram? Cubic meter? 100 cubic meters?
      The above link does not lead to an article but to a newspaper, which hmm .. inconvenient.

      Da kommt es auf den Preis an - und US-Flüssiggas ist 25 Prozent teurer als Erdgas aus Sibirien.


      www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2018-08/nord-stream-2-russland-deutschland-ukraine-abhaengigkeit/seite-2
  4. NG inform
    NG inform 31 August 2018 12: 40
    0
    The US is a partner right up to the point where Germany ignores the fact that it is under occupation. And to remove the American occupation from Germany will not work in any way, without the collapse of the United States itself.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 31 August 2018 12: 43
    +2
    The interests of which circles does Die Zeit express ... The article is quite sensible ... And are they influential in Germany ... Will they be able to put pressure on the government, on "Aunt Kluvdia" ...
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 31 August 2018 13: 58
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      The interests of what circles does Die Zeit express ...

      The newspaper is decently Russophobic. But sometimes such articles from guest journalists slip through. In addition, Theo Sommer does not need to look with an eye on others, he is a "journalist in law")))
    2. LMN
      LMN 31 August 2018 17: 17
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      The interests of which circles does Die Zeit express ... The article is quite sensible ... And are they influential in Germany ... Will they be able to put pressure on the government, on "Aunt Kluvdia" ...

      In the article, he cites 10 facts why Germany does not need to abandon SP-2.
      A small part in the comments accuses him of a pro-Russian position. lol
      Half of the remaining (comments over 100), trying to find political background, the second parses what is more profitable.
      Here above, someone has already said that for the EU liquefied gas will cost not 25% more, but 1,5 times. So, there one Pole writes: that Poland has solved the problem of "dependence" on pipe gas from Russia, but the Germans must be prepared that liquefied gas will cost them 50% more.
      Ukraine is also mentioned .. the general opinion is "the country of oligarchs and koruptsionerov", where the day6and from gas transit is invested not in the country, but in their feed.

      News from the fields)) hi
  6. Horst78
    Horst78 31 August 2018 14: 12
    0
    At the same time, LNG imposed by the USA costs 25 cents more than Russian.
    cents or still%?
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 31 August 2018 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: Horst78
      cents or still%?

      The original article says: 25 percent more expensive ... (25 Prozent teuerer)