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Under Vladimir during a parachute jump, a paratrooper was killed

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The TASS news agency, citing sources, reports of a tragic accident in the Vladimir region. The submission speaks of the death of a serviceman of the Airborne Forces. A private airborne parachute jump from the Mi-8 helicopter.


It is noted that the height at which the helicopter flew was about 500. The landing area is the Kirzhach site.

According to the latest data, the paratrooper D-10 did not open at the paratrooper. The soldier died during the landing. The incident occurred last Tuesday.

Under Vladimir during a parachute jump, a paratrooper was killed


Upon the tragedy near Vladimir during the training jumps, an inspection is carried out. For this, a special departmental commission has been created.

It is safe to say that the D-10 is a parachute of a high degree of reliability. It has been in service with the Airborne Forces since the end of the 90s. Depending on the weight of the parachutist (with equipment), the parachute is designed for 120 jumps. At the same time, it is necessary to take into account the climatic conditions in which the parachute is used during the service life. While not excluded, and the notorious human factor.

The name of the soldier who died during the training jump, at the moment is not reported.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 August 2018 06: 55
    +17
    ... very, very sorry for the guy ... condolences to relatives and friends ... I hope the commission will do everything to establish the cause of the emergency ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 August 2018 07: 01
      +14
      jump into eternity ... condolences to all who knew, were friends, loved the fighter ...
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 August 2018 07: 01
    +13
    the height at which the helicopter flew was about 500 m
    Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts. Usually from 900 m. At this altitude, he will only have time to think about the reserve. Relatives of the deceased sincere condolences.
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 30 August 2018 07: 36
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      he will only have time to think about the reserve

      Here, the height is small, and the device will not work, or is it not being used now?
      We had to put on conscripts, but we were severely punished for working, it was envisaged that you would deal with the brackets yourself.
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 30 August 2018 09: 14
        +5
        On the device 300 meter opening height ZP. It seems to me the basis is sloppiness and senseless bravado.
      2. freddyk
        freddyk 30 August 2018 09: 45
        +2
        Quote: konstantin68
        Quote: rotmistr60
        he will only have time to think about the reserve

        Here, the height is small, and the device will not work, or is it not being used now?
        We had to put on conscripts, but we were severely punished for working, it was envisaged that you would deal with the brackets yourself.

        The instrument has not been used for a long time. It turned out even worse. Both were revealed, often confused.
    2. raw174
      raw174 30 August 2018 07: 40
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts.

      Well, by the way, the deceased was a conscript or contractor? Not reflected.
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 30 August 2018 09: 48
        0
        Quote: raw174
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts.

        Well, by the way, the deceased was a conscript or contractor? Not reflected.

        I think this is not so important, what was the most important jump. As a rule, they fight on the first because of their own mistakes
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 August 2018 08: 07
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      +4
      the height at which the helicopter flew was about 500 m. Not enough for training dives, especially conscripts. Usually from 900 m. At this altitude, he will only have time to think about the reserve.

      on the "Magdeburg", I also "fell out" from 500m three times, D-6, I am sweating as I remember ... (all because of the badge with a "hanging") now, not in life ... I'm afraid, but then, a herd feeling, could not retreat, would have lost "face".
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 30 August 2018 08: 51
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts

      Well, probably this was not the first jump. probably he had some kind of experience
    5. freddyk
      freddyk 30 August 2018 09: 41
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      the height at which the helicopter flew was about 500 m
      Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts. Usually from 900 m. At this altitude, he will only have time to think about the reserve. Relatives of the deceased sincere condolences.

      Good day. The staff jump is 800 m. But we had training from 250 m. No spare wheel :-)
      1. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 31 August 2018 00: 09
        0
        Quote: freddyk
        Regular jump 800 m. But we had training with 250. Without reserve :-)

        500 meters are extremely dangerous heights, even 800 is not enough (it would be better if 1000 and higher). And your 250 m - stupid bravado! What, isn't it? Your command would be, guided by the experience of the Second World War, ordered to parachute directly into the snow without parachutes from a height of several tens of meters ...
    6. Simak
      Simak 30 August 2018 10: 11
      +1
      A training jump is usually from 600 meters, for first-timers from 800 meters.
    7. Govorun
      Govorun 30 August 2018 10: 39
      0
      Maybe the jumps were designed from a low altitude, because we don’t know, if such a height is chosen then it’s not so simple ... and yes, a tragedy and we condole the relatives of the deceased ...
      1. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 31 August 2018 00: 09
        +2
        Quote: Govorun
        Maybe the jumps were calculated from a low height, we do not know, if such a height is chosen, it is not so simple.

        Low altitude is usually chosen in order to save aviation fuel, that's all ...
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 31 August 2018 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Warrior2015
          Low altitude is usually chosen in order to save aviation fuel, that's all ...

          Do not tell me, low altitude reduces the time a paratrooper spends in the air, we called them a "combat jump" 250 meters is not an extremely low altitude, and it is training. A combat drop can be carried out from a height of 150 meters.
          1. Warrior2015
            Warrior2015 31 August 2018 23: 30
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            Quote: freddyk
            low altitude reduces the time a paratrooper spends in the air, we called them "combat jump" 250 meters is not an extremely low altitude, and it is training.

            Remind me, when was the last time the airborne units of ours landed under enemy fire and entered the battle from the spot? how many decades ago

            And here is a simple training, it would be possible to fly higher to give an opportunity to open the spare wheel ...
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 30 August 2018 07: 10
    +4
    I want to express my sincere condolences to the relatives, friends, and colleagues of the deceased! soldier soldier
  4. tracer
    tracer 30 August 2018 07: 17
    +17
    Kingdom of heaven to the lost warrior. D10 WASN'T OPENED BUT THE FIGHTER MUST OPEN THE RESERVE! More precisely, have time to open. The height is 500 meters, which I remember is 300 meters, the height of the automatic opening of the spare. But the Airborne Forces jump without automatic disclosure of the spare wheel. At the VAR, they are taught to automatically open the main and spare domes. While the reason I see the low drop height. Or were the main domes forced to open with a halyard after exiting the helicopter? Also unlikely. Mi 8 is a small helicopter, the usual landing on the stabilizing dome should be with a "stabilizer" hood after exiting ... which also takes time and the height will be about 50 meters. This is critically small for resolving an abnormal situation with the main dome and opening the spare.
    I will never forget the dark burgundy neck of Captain Sychev, "Owl" .. when the halyard wrapped around his neck, the safety threads did not open and he hung as if in a loop on the halyard under the belly of MI 6. The four of us pulled it out. Either he would suffocate, or his neck would be torn off ... We chose the latter. Not torn off. He then did not go to jumps for a long time.
    A pity is a fighter. It seems to me a mistake in choosing the landing height. VDP shniki know better.
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 30 August 2018 08: 25
      +3
      The rate of descent at stabilization is 30-40 m / s, stabilization a forced parachute device is used. The guy is probably from the Bears. Sorry for the guy.
    2. tap
      tap 30 August 2018 09: 11
      +2
      Wait for the results of the investigation. What to guess. In our guard, a cadet shot himself from a machine gun. The girl quit. So it is not known yet.
    3. timeout
      timeout 2 September 2018 11: 46
      0
      It’s a pity for the fighter ... Blessed memory!

      Tracer, are you turning on the expert again? "Paratrooper" indoor pancake ...
      Quote: tracer
      More precisely time to open. 500 meters high

      From heights of 500 meters jump on the battlefield, with the forced opening of the dome.
      Quote: tracer
      But the Airborne Forces are jumping without reserve guns.

      Since 1983 ADshki are used without fail.
      Quote: tracer
      At the VDP, it is taught, before automatism, to open the primary and secondary domes.

      Prior to automatism, they learn to strike a reserve machine.
      Quote: tracer
      I will never forget the dark burgundy neck of Captain Sychev, "Owl" .. when the halyard wrapped around his neck, the safety threads did not open

      1. In the 21st Internal Affairs Directorate from 89 to 91 there was no officer named Sychev.
      2. The locking cord even in double is 40 kg. to break.
      Quote: tracer
      It seems to me a mistake in choosing the landing height.

      Combat landing is possible up to 70 meters. Do not strain the wise guy ... So the dome has not been filled, and ADshka, as always, was not cocked, so as not to strike it. Ordinary jambs of bounce control ...
  5. Dave36
    Dave36 30 August 2018 07: 17
    +2
    Land in fluff, very sorry! ((
  6. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 30 August 2018 07: 29
    +1
    Well, how is that ?! Why didn’t the training workout ?!
  7. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa 30 August 2018 07: 47
    +2
    Not so long ago, there was a case in the south of the country. Three paratroopers died after jumping and falling into a cold river.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 30 August 2018 09: 10
      +3
      There was not even a cold river to blame, but just water .. and races .. action of the commanders!
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 30 August 2018 09: 53
        0
        Quote: igorka357
        There was not even a cold river to blame, but just water .. and races .. action of the commanders!

        Let me disagree. Which commanders? The navigator of the board is responsible for the accuracy of the landing. He did not calculate, most likely.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 30 August 2018 15: 42
          +1
          Quote: freddyk
          Quote: igorka357
          There was not even a cold river to blame, but just water .. and races .. action of the commanders!

          Let me disagree. Which commanders? The navigator of the board is responsible for the accuracy of the landing. He did not calculate, most likely.

          If there are bodies of water in the outflow area, according to the RVDP, rescue equipment will be organized on them, which has not been done. The navigator has nothing to do with it.
          1. Warrior2015
            Warrior2015 1 September 2018 15: 41
            0
            Quote: Doliva63
            If there are water bodies in the district, the means of rescue are arranged on them according to the RVDP, which was not done. Navigator

            By the way, yes, and if there is an opportunity, then you should not complicate the situation, but choose a "clean" area, without open reservoirs (the commander can recall the sad fate of the Anglo-American paratroopers in Normandy and under Arnhem, where, when landing and getting into numerous reservoirs, many corny drowned in flooded domes and clothes) ...

            A navigator - yes, with normal visibility and with modern navigation devices, it flies without any problems along the route indicated by the command ...
  8. Zubr
    Zubr 30 August 2018 07: 47
    +3
    soldier sorry for the guy, heaven be with him. Well, wait for the results of the investigation.
  9. Evil 55
    Evil 55 30 August 2018 10: 06
    +4
    Yes, the squash in general is simple in laying, like three kopecks, in operation it is eternal with timely drying and reliable, like a Kalashnikov assault rifle .. It’s clearly not the point ..
  10. Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 August 2018 15: 37
    +1
    Quote: rotmistr60
    the height at which the helicopter flew was about 500 m
    Not enough for training jumps, especially conscripts. Usually from 900 m. At this altitude, he will only have time to think about the reserve. Relatives of the deceased sincere condolences.

    Colleague, with the Mi-8 we usually jumped from 500-700 meters, I don’t remember why. And this: "ring-dome-sides!" allows, probably, in 5 seconds after separation to understand - to pull the spare wheel or not. At the same time, I remember, I pulled the main ring, you immediately return your hand back, to the elbow of your left hand, to the spare wheel ring, so that, if anything, you do not waste time looking for it. The article does not say if there was even an attempt to open the spare.
  11. Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 August 2018 15: 52
    +1
    Quote: Evil 55
    Yes, the squash in general is simple in laying, like three kopecks, in operation it is eternal with timely drying and reliable, like a Kalashnikov assault rifle .. It’s clearly not the point ..

    Given how many times the canopy is checked, the parachute itself and the styling have nothing to do with it. The most likely reason for the refusal is the poor preparation of the fighter and the carelessness of the issuer who missed the grab of the stabilization hand. In this case, of course, stabilization will not be able to pull out the dome. I stopped these a couple of times. And somehow they looked at the neighbors, the fighter flew under stabilization almost to the ground. Fortunately, I thought of raising my hand, the dome came out and right there - the earth. It was lucky both to the fighter, and letting out.
  12. Laayoune
    Laayoune 30 August 2018 17: 58
    +3
    The telegram details everything ...




    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 31 August 2018 06: 07
      0
      Quote: Laayoune
      The telegram details everything ...





      Kapets releasing! It’s not realistic, of course, not to hook a carbine at all, but a false engagement happens, and both are to blame - the issuer had to hook correctly, and the paratrooper should check. In general, some kind of mess, unfortunately sad