Bulgarian Defense Ministry: Stop feeding us tales of "obsolete" Soviet weapons

The Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria decided to repair 13 Soviet tanks T-72. The decision of the Bulgarian Ministry of Defense follows the decision to repair and modernize the MiG-29 and Su-25 of the country's air force. The tender specifies that repairs are expected in the next 4 years and will cost 4,9 million euros. For the repair of tanks will go 4 million euros, the remaining funds for the repair of 60 sights. A total of 160 T-72 tanks in the M / M1 / ​​M2 modifications are currently in service with the Bulgarian ground forces.

In this connection, the statement of the Bulgarian Minister of Defense Krasimir Karakachanov sounds particularly interesting and even shocking for Brussels:
“The T-72 is a very good tank. If we decide to sell them, there will immediately be people willing to purchase them. We have already made a mistake when we sold our“ old ”T-55. They saved them in Russia, modernized and used them! more maneuverable! It turned out to be an ideal means of warfare for urban conditions. Which means “obsolete”? We sold our “obsolete” MiG-55 to Croatia, and they successfully use them! that they studied in the Soviet military academies! Now they have suddenly turned in the "atlantists", in the NATO members. The Bulgarian people are not a bottomless pit to milk them for stupid projects and tell them stories about the "advantage" of western technology and exclusively about "atlantic values"! "

Regarding the modernization of the T-72, Karakachanov said that many additional protection options had been created for him, which markedly increased the fighting qualities of the vehicle.

We remind you that the Bulgarian Minister of War at the same time also holds the post of deputy prime minister in the government of Bulgaria. In the 2017 elections in parliament, patriotically oriented parties gained a significant presence. Prime Minister Boyko Borisov was forced to form a ruling coalition with them, which immediately affected the foreign policy of Bulgaria. For example, the nationalist Ataka party, a member of this coalition, has an anti-NATO political platform, and its leader Volen Siderov often visits Moscow. Karakachanov himself is the chairman of one of the patriotic parties - VMRO / Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization /, which has long-standing historical traditions in Bulgarian society. In addition, the President of Bulgaria, General Rumen Radev, advocates improving relations with Russia.

The Defense Ministry responded to the decision of the Atlantic Council - a small pro-Western non-governmental group of politicians who remained "overboard" in the political competition in Bulgaria in recent years. They stated that “instead of synchronizing with the neighboring NATO member countries, the Bulgarian Ministry of Defense is likely to support Russia under sanctions by paying a huge amount for repairing old military equipment. This is the third tender for the repair of Soviet equipment only this year. And this is after as almost the 30 years the USSR ceased to exist and almost 15-year-old membership of Bulgaria in NATO ".

Recall that due to the lack of equipment compatible with NATO defense systems, Bulgaria does not participate in joint missions.

Comments

[ANCIENT]

Well, that the Bulgarians, in NATO and the European Union, live like cheese in butter? Is the cheese only moldy, and the oil is working out after frying from another table? ??

[Andrey Yuryevich]

repair "brothers" in ukraine, they have rusts of spare parts for a hundred years. for 4 lemma, they will paint the gusli and change the bulbs ...

[ANCIENT]

Yuryevich, to transfer ukroine, it’s the same as throwing it away — you will get a completely disheveled and inoperative barochlo back, and you will give a good thing for repair!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: ANCIENT

Yuryevich, to transfer ukroine, it’s the same as throwing it away — you will get a completely disheveled and inoperative barochlo back, and you will give a good thing for repair!

Well, I won’t offer anything bad!

[Tatyana]

The Bulgarian Minister of War, who also holds the post of deputy prime minister in the Bulgarian government, said:
"Enough fairy tales that some" good "people tell us who have forgotten that they studied at Soviet military academies! Now they have suddenly turned into" Atlantists ", into NATO members. The Bulgarian people are not a bottomless pit to milk them on stupid projects and tell them stories about the "advantage" of Western technology and exclusively about "Atlantic values"! "

All this, of course, great! Only, it is interesting, but will Bulgarians be able to pay off the Russian Federation for the repair of their tanks?
After all, the Bulgarian National Bank is under the influence of the Rothschilds, and therefore the United States!
And what does "under the influence of the Rothschilds" mean? This means that in the Bulgarian National Bank there are "moles" -atlantists of the US FRS.

[faiver]

t-72 was made not only in Russia, not the fact that repairs and modernization will be done with us ...

[Nikolai]

Which tanks? which is better, worse ... there everything revolves in a circle to sell. They will not fight on the death star, but if sold ...

T-72 is a very good tank. If we decide sell them

Our "obsolete" MiG-21 we sold

[just exp]

so he says that it’s not necessary to sell, that the hucksters would only be sold so that the Bulgarian army is sitting on the bare fifth point, and the soldiers will only again be promised cool NATO weapons.

[neri73-r]

Quote: faiver

t-72 was made not only in Russia, not the fact that repairs and modernization will be done with us ...

Yes, I agree, this is not about where to make repairs, but about the repair of Soviet equipment itself and, accordingly, the refusal of NATO purchases. And this, we can say, is the first such twist in Europe!

[Guru]

After all, the Bulgarian National Bank is under the influence of the Rothschilds

Do you think our Sberbank is not under the Rothschilds?

[pytar]

All this, of course, great! Only, it is interesting, but will Bulgarians be able to pay off the Russian Federation for the repair of their tanks?

Can without problems. There is enough money in the budget. And the new technology will be purchased in the next 7 years. Starts a phased update of the sun. In the 20 years that have passed since 90, Bulgaria has accumulated gold reserves in the 23 euro billion, and the GDP has exceeded 50 in the billion euro! Given the situation in 90, the country was bankrupt! Shas and external debts are minimal. Bulgaria is among the top three EU countries with the best GDP / GDP ratio. So from finance all the rules. Rothschild and respected in the Russian Federation! He owns assets in the size of 1,7 billions of dollars from Gazprom!

[Roma 1977]

I see, in Bulgaria everything is just like in Russia.

[otstoy]

With UP, they got a shot not even in the leg, but in the ass. They already cast fishing rods about the resumption of construction, but the Sultan for us is a more reliable partner. )))

[pytar]

Yes, of course, they will easily be able to "pay off" by a widespread vote in all international structures against the Russian Federation

In 2015, Bulgaria refused to accept active elements of the American missile defense system on its territory, and they were deployed in Romania.
In 2016, Bulgaria refused to participate in the anti-Russian Black Sea squadron, along with Turkey, Romania, Ukraine and Georgia. The failure of Bulgaria buried the entire project.
In 2017, Bulgaria signed a contract with RSK MiG to repair its MiG-29, causing “fair” anger from Washington. A contract is to be signed for the repair of the Bulgarian Su-25.
At the beginning of 2018, Bulgaria was one of those countries that refused to send Russian diplomats because of the Skripal case.

[SerB60]

I wrote about the Bulgarian vote at the UN. Your dances-mansa-criminals inside NATO on the drum, No need to put them in merit. Only the woodpecker now remembers the Skripals. They, you see, refused to expel ... And in the forehead, ask about the evidence, but just go against if there are no facts?

[pytar]

Yes, of course, they can easily "pay off" with a widespread vote in all international structures against the Russian Federation, as happened with the South Stream. Dvorushniki - overturns ...

Do you read what you write? Or do you compose yourself like that to offend at the end of the post? By the way, where and in what international structures did the vote on SP take place?

[Basil50]

Comments are of course fervent but the main thing is missing. In Bulgaria today, it is fashionable to look back and nostalgic for the carefree parasitism in RUSSIA and the Soviet Union. The reason is good - the EU removes them from allowance. So they will reach the restoration of the throne, all the more popular there * memories * of * prosperity and prosperity * under the tsars who knew how to settle down in hangers-on and among Germans-Austrians and the RUSSIAN tsar.

[Borisovich]

Quote: Vasily50

The reason is good - the EU removes them from allowance.

Where is she, the dog then rummaged. Milk in the eurotitch ended, we must urgently look for another ........ Wailing on the topic of resuscitation of the Bulgarian stream from the same opera.

[LSA57]

Quote: Borisovich

In the eurotitch milk has ended, we must urgently look for another ........ S

therefore, tpibalt anti-Russian rhetoric is slowly being phased out

[Borisovich]

Quote: LSA57

therefore, tpibalt anti-Russian rhetoric is slowly being phased out

Not all, not all ..... Dalk is still holding .......

[LSA57]

Quote: Borisovich

Not all, not all ..... Dalk is still holding .......

women in the past with low social responsibility, always in the struggle for the client were stubborn

[Borisovich]

Quote: LSA57

always in the fight for the client were stubborn

So the specifics of the work, so to speak, oblige .........

[LSA57]

Quote: Borisovich

So the specifics of the work, so to speak, oblige .........

well yes. knows what pose to take for the owner

[Dormidont]

It turned out that this is not a tit or milk

[Borisovich]

Quote: Dormidont

not milk

Kefir .......... fat-free .............

[CAT BAIYUN]

EU removes them from allowance

All is correct. The feeding period is over - it's time to cut. It's funny that they will be removed from the allowance, but they won’t learn to think on their own. They will look for a new owner.

[pytar]

In Bulgaria, it is now in fashion to look back and nostalgic about the carefree parasitism on RUSSIA and the Soviet Union. The reason is compelling - the EU removes them from the allowance. So they will reach the restoration of the throne ...

Most commentators here, have no idea about the topic on which they speak.
During its membership in the EU, Bulgaria has received billions of euros from the 15 eurofunds. In the next 2 years, she will receive a record 3 billion Euro. The economy is getting stronger, and the financial system is stable. There is no threat of disruption, even if the EU reinstalls funding from European funds.
If some here believe that someone was parasitized on someone, what is the problem now? After all, no one parasitizes on the Russian Federation? Must be such a rich country, got rich, people began to live better! I often go to RF. Something I do not notice is ...
Still ... you clearly do not know that a few years ago in Bulgaria the heir to the throne Simeon of Saxburg returned. He took up politics and was even a Premier. About no return to the monarchy was not discussed, since the Bulgarians will never accept the irremovability of power. We do not recognize the kings and authorities! Power should not be in monopoly! And we didn’t admit such things after 90! If those in power do not work as they should, we change them! That's how it all happens to us, Vasily!

[Mac Simka]

Bulgaria has never been a parasite. It’s very difficult to take you seriously while twisting this record. Proof if possible as RI / USSR / RF fed us. Grandma’s set of spoons should not be attached.

[LSA57]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

repair "brothers" in ukraine, they have rusts of spare parts for a hundred years. for 4 lemma, they will paint the gusli and change the bulbs ...

and all this for some 10-15 years. and even without any guarantees that the gun will fire, the tower will rotate ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

for 4 lyamas, they will paint the harp and the bulbs will change ...

They do it rather. And the lamas, and the harp, and the bulbs ... The Indians will confirm, if Che.

[Leeds]

Quote: ANCIENT

Well, that the Bulgarians in NATO and the European Union live like cheese in butter?

Look in your pocket.

[pytar]

Well, that the Bulgarians, in NATO and the European Union, live like cheese in butter? Is the cheese only moldy, and the oil is working out after frying from another table? ??

Dear Sergey Vitalyevich, life in the EU is not cheese in butter, but it is far from being as bad as it is represented in Russian. Crawls are much more than negative. Therefore, Bulgarians in their majority support memberships. It is a fact. There is nothing condemnable. In the article there is an obyktivnaya assessment of the quality of Soviet weapons, voiced by the Minister of War / Vice-Premier. The T-72 has tremendous potential! Is it more reasonable to use ego? This is a great fighting machine that has proven its outstanding quality in many conflicts! While it is cheaper to operate than Western counterparts!
In Bulgaria, a plan was adopted a year ago to modernize the Armed Forces. In the budget funds are foreseen and the purchase of new technology. Tenders are coming.

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: ANCIENT

Well, that the Bulgarians in NATO and the European Union live like cheese in butter?

Interesting politicians in Bulgaria: since gaining independence thanks to Russia and the Russian people, Bulgaria has always found itself in a camp hostile to Russia.

[Mac Simka]

Oh well, ALWAYS straight. And when were you in the police department?

[pytar]

Since gaining its independence thanks to Russia and the Russian people, Bulgaria has always been in a hostile Russian camp.

Lying. Neither by chronology nor by time does this hardening respond to the facts. The essence is one more important moment! Bulgaria, in view of the comparability of values, could never influence Russian politics in the way that Russian politics influenced Bulgarian. From this point of view, it was Russia that was part of alliances hostile to Bulgaria. In view of their interests, which sometimes contradicted the Bulgarian. I do not blame me. Everyone has their own vital interests and policies of all countries of the world, guided precisely by them.

[tagil]

"We declare to all our loyal subjects: Insidiously prepared from the very beginning of the war and yet seemingly impossible betrayal of Bulgaria to the Slavic cause has come to pass - the Bulgarian troops attacked the bleeding one in the fight against the strongest enemy, our loyal ally Serbia. From this fateful step, the fulfillment of the long-standing aspirations of the Bulgarian people - the annexation of Macedonia - was ensured to Bulgaria in a different way, consistent with the interests of the Slavs.
But the secret selfish calculations and fratricidal hostility to the Serbs, inspired by the Germans, prevailed. Bulgaria, which is our only one, which we had recently liberated from Turkish slavery by the love and blood of the Russian people, openly sided with the enemies of the Christian faith, the Slavs, and Russia. With bitterness the Russian people are greeted by the betrayal of Bulgaria, which is so close to them until the last days, and with a heavy heart draws a sword against her, leaving the fate of the traitors to the Slavs to God's just punishment.
This is the manifesto of the last Russian emperor to join the Bulgarian PMV.

[pytar]

The manifesto of the Russian emperor, as it should be for such a document, should evoke entusciasm and faith in the righteousness of the initiative! The same manifesto was sent to Tsar Ferdinand to the Bulgarian people! And this people, went Masovo into the army, in order to free their slanderers from these new enslavers / Serbs, Greeks, Romanians / who replaced the Turks! For us, the WWI was a fair, liberation war! The war in the continuation of the Russian-Turkish liberation war with 1878. The goals are the same. The fact that the Republic of Ingushetia has passed in fact in defiance, this goal is due to the changes in its interests and priorities in the Balkans. The fact is that interests are more important than truth and justice. It is so in politics.

pp - You probably do not know what a huge outrage caused by all segments of Bulgarian society, Russia's position in the PRC! The Bulgarian people are Russophile in their overwhelming majority. He could not understand how Russia, the ego liberator, found himself on the side of the worst enemies of the Bulgarian statehood! The very same ones that, if they could, would have wiped the Bulgarians off the face of the earth!

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: pytar

Lying.

No, not a lie. Rather, the rule: the Balkan wars, WWII, WWII (most) - almost always the actions of the Bulgarian ruling elite went against the interests and politics of Russia. The only exception is the ATS (here Russia itself is to blame for the vector change). In principle, if you think so, then the reason lies in the Berlin process and its consequences, when the Austrian was imposed as a king in the Orthodox country and the Slavic people.

It is not a matter of whether Bulgaria could influence Russian politics or not. The fact is that in fact almost all of its history, the ruling elite of Bulgaria was, to put it mildly, not located pro-Russian.
Pro-Western - yes (the first half of its history from the moment of liberation is generally pro-German).
There is no reproach to you or the people - it is politics and politics in Africa. Moreover, the Bulgarians themselves (and you, as I understand it, won't let you lie) in the absolute majority have a very positive attitude towards Russians. Even the behavior of the Bulgarian military during NATO exercises is indicative (the story of the "Ivans").

[pytar]

The Balkan Wars, WWI, WWII (most part) - almost always the actions of the Bulgarian ruling elite were at odds with the interests and policies of Russia.

You are right that interests diverged. But you are wrong that these are the interests of the Bulgarian ruling elite. The interests and goals of Russia / the Russian ruling elite / Bolkanov diverged from the vital interests of the Bulgarian people, guaranteeing its very existence. This is an obsessive fact, and it is senseless to blame someone else for something.
I can not imagine, after the occupation of Macedonia, the Greeks and Serbs, and the Dobrudja Romanians in 1913, so that the Bulgarians went to fight for them! With the position that a third of the Bulgarian people was under a new slavery, even more terrible than the Ottoman! But to fight for the liberation of their fellow tribesmen, the Bulgarians went! 900 000 soldiers, with a population of ~ 5 million! Almost the entire male population of the country! Third of the occupied areas! The highest mobilization rate from all countries fighting in the PRC! This is not an accident! They knew what was going to fight!
That Russia was on the other side of the trenches is her mistake. Error, why she fought for others / Anglo-Saxon / interests. And lost. Uniquely, but being all-union with the winners, Russia has found itself in a row of losers! RI collapsed and events occurred that cost the lives of millions of Russian people. Bulgaria, though defeated, fought not for someone else, but for its national ideals! Today, in every Bulgarian village there are monuments from the dead hundreds of thousands of soldiers. We honor and remember them! They are our grandfathers! These are our Heroes!

[Mac Simka]

Do not open your mouth to someone else's loaf. We know better.

[rotmistr60]

Enough of the fairy tales that some "good" people tell us who have forgotten that they studied in Soviet military academies!

"Good" people told you about South Stream, but you have listened to them so far and have finally realized that not all "good" people are really good (sorry for the tautology).

[aszzz888]

rotmistr60 (Gennady) Today, 06: 28
Enough of the fairy tales that some "good" people tell us who have forgotten that they studied in Soviet military academies! "Good" people told you about South Stream, but you have listened to them so far and have finally realized that not all "good" people are really good (sorry for the tautology).

! ... "brothers" are a little tough on steel, and the owner keeps the occasion for a short time ...

[LSA57]

Quote: rotmistr60

finally realized that not all "good" people are really good

they are "good" exclusively for their pocket

[pytar]

"Good" people told you about South Stream

The topic of UP is not at all as unambiguous as it is represented in the Russian Federation. I recommend you read the article on the BO:
https://topwar.ru/142488-bolgariya-otkryvaet-dver-dlya-vozvrascheniya-rossii-na-balkany.html

[Trotil42]

Very robust and honestly expressed thoughts .. It’s true that it required a certain courage of the minister ... in addition, the budget is optimal ...

[aszzz888]

statement of the Bulgarian Minister of Defense Krasimir Karakachanov:

... I suppose the natosrovtsy have already found a replacement for him ...

[amateur2]

Had to deal with these "brothers" in the 80s and 90s. They were very offended by Russia / USSR. "If not for you, we would have lived in Europe for a long time."
So, no more and no less.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, they are narrow-minded people and in Russia they are so full, they would have to give everything up and sell it, if only it would be more conspicuous to eat ...
As they say, everything is known by comparison, you won’t convince with words, until you feel in your own skin, understand that you need to develop your country, protect the interests of your people, and not join alliances for the sake of lack of money and money ... There is no lack of support everything is given to pay.
What gave Bulgaria the NATO? Protection? From whom?
And what have they lost? Pipeline for 32 billion cubic meters, and in the long term for all 64, or maybe even 96 billion cubic meters per year, and this is money for transit and investment in its gas transportation system and jobs. The nuclear power plants were frozen, and now they are exporting electricity, but they could sell them to the same Turks ... And for the sake of what did they themselves deprive themselves? For US approval? Seriously? so how did this help keep warm in the winter and feed the families to the Bulgarians?
I would also check thoroughly on the involvement in corruption of the Bulgarian leaders who abandoned the South Stream and the construction of nuclear power plants in the country ... There is a suspicion that they all did not disinterestedly ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

There is a suspicion that they all did this not disinterestedly ...

What does it mean to have suspicion? Any position favorable to the Anglo-Saxons is very well paid. Not with money, but with another profit ... A donkey loaded with gold will take any city.
So there’s nothing to check - bought or bought.

[pytar]

Yes, they are narrow-minded people and in Russia they are so full, they would have to give everything up and sell it, if only it would be more conspicuous to eat ...

There are no such listeners.

What gave Bulgaria the NATO? Protection? From whom?

From Turkey, at least for some time. Winning time for Bulgaria was vital, after the ATS broke up. Bulgaria is at the crossroads of strategic interests. In addition, almost all the neighbors are members of NATO.

And why have lost? Pipeline to 32 billion cubic meters

And I will answer you as the answer to another forumchanin. The topic of SP is not as straightforward as it is in terms of terms. And I recommend that you familiarize yourself with this article:
https://topwar.ru/142488-bolgariya-otkryvaet-dver-dlya-vozvrascheniya-rossii-na-balkany.html
There is clarified and the issue with nuclear power plants.

[Ros 56]

So, no more and no less.

I did not find what to answer, but in vain. I would say that if it were not for the Russians, you would not have lived at all. By the way, as well as the Armenians and Georgians.

[amateur2]

Why not find it. After that, we switched to European culture, stopped feeding and drinking them. They began to do this at their own expense. And once again very offended.

[Ros 56]

Somewhat different concepts: live and eat at your own expense, don’t you?

[amateur2]

I did not understand what exactly you mean. They were on our business trip.

[pytar]

After that we switched to European culture; we stopped feeding and watering them. They began to do it at their own expense. And once again very offended.

Victor, these are common stories. The USSR brought us a non-alternative socialist social system that suffered from many shortcomings. We did not define the rules in it. At one point, the USSR itself abandoned it. During that socialism Bulgaria went bankrupt 3 times. The system imposed by us from the outside did not work. After the 90s, we had to study the market economy. We called that period "shock therapy"! It was difficult, the country was not rich. Today, although we do not live sweetly, we are certainly no worse than in the Russian Federation or in other post-Soviet countries. We stepped to our feet. There are still many problems. But we can handle it. That's for sure!

[Mac Simka]

Here's how - wouldn’t they live directly? You are recognized. You need to know the history, and not twist the barrel organ that without you it’s in any way nizya.
I wonder who else has not lived without you?

[CAT BAIYUN]

"If not for you, we would have lived in Europe for a long time."

It was, it was ... But now in Europe. Rejoice, go ....

[amateur2]

Children of the year 4 back rested in Bulgaria. There BULGARIAN pepper is now imported from Holland !!!!!

[pytar]

Children of the year 4 back rested in Bulgaria. There BULGARIAN pepper is now imported from Holland !!!!!

Victor, having been on vacation will learn little. I hope at least a good rest? In fact, Bulgarian products are quite competitive, and for example, I buy only Bulgarian ones! As an open economy, we export and import. The export of agricultural products brings every year billions of euros in the budget. It is successfully sold. Quality and quantity grows from year to year. There is such a thing that Bulgarian agriculture is seasonal. Look at the map where Bulgaria is located.

[Ros 56]

And my own grows, what is your fist, and this is in our Urals. And add to the salad, and freeze for the winter, and do lecho. And the other day, my wife stuffed pepper with minced meat, you lick your fingers. So we saw that Holland in a coffin in white slippers.

[Mac Simka]

So we did not leave Europe. Since the 7th century, we have always been living and living. Here are some from Ural Asia right now to us. Running from the good, no?

[Mac Simka]

And here I’m here to deal with such “little brothers.” They are very offended by Bulgaria. “You always betrayed us.” No more and no less.

[nathanael]

Hmm ... They will ask for money ... and do not go to my grandmother ..

[Ros 56]

Well, why go to the grandmother, there is the IMF for this, Ukrainians know how to roll up.

[pytar]

Hmm ... They will ask for money ... and do not go to my grandmother ..

Do not go. Just read:
https://topwar.ru/140445-buduschee-ekonomiki-bolgarii-vyglyadit-optimistichno.html

[nathanael]

We are happy for you ... Good luck .. But this is why, against the background of such growth, your president came to ask Putin for the resumption of the southern stream. .

[pytar]

We are happy for you ... Good luck .. But this is why, against the background of such growth, your president came to ask Putin for the resumption of the southern stream. .

They came at the invitation of Putin. GDP several times invited Premier B. Borisov. He himself does not like to sell gas through the Sultan. The Sultan is unpredictable and at one moment may turn the crane ... So they are looking for a mutually acceptable solution. Diminishing it in front of media. The essence from both sides / RF-BG / is worked very actively on the problem.
And more ... Without gas, we will not stay. The construction of one of the largest gas projects in the Balkans begins near the town of Provadia. Read:
https://topwar.ru/142488-bolgariya-otkryvaet-dver-dlya-vozvrascheniya-rossii-na-balkany.html

[Mac Simka]

Suggest?

[Strashila]

Yemen and Syria showed what the western equipment is in battle, compared with Russian ... for what to give ... such a tank is needed by ourselves.

[K-50]

due to the lack of equipment compatible with the NATO defense systems, Bulgaria does not participate in joint missions.

How important is it for the "brothers" to be "cannon fodder" for the "Western coalition" and "drag chestnuts out of the fire for them"?

[bessmertniy]

The fact that Bulgaria does not have "compatible technology" suggests that the West still does not believe that Bulgaria has become its sincere ally. Otherwise, they would have stuffed it with modern and compatible weapons long ago. At least for loans, at least for free. And it’s a no brainer that Bulgarians are not eager to die for Western values.

[Mac Simka]

How important is it for you to burn out in a nuclear war?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I think that if Bulgaria decides to upgrade tanks in Russia, then a good discount must be made))) ... For such an advertisement of Soviet / Russian equipment ...

[faiver]

there are suspicions that they will do this either in Poland or in Romania ...

[pytar]

there are suspicions that they will do this either in Poland or in Romania ...

By law, public orders are awarded through tenders. The most likely executor is the Bulgarian enterprise for the repair of military equipment "Terem - Ovech" EOOD Provadia. The official line of the Bulgarian authorities is to issue contracts specifically to Bulgarian firms.

[faiver]

well, that’s also true, I made assumptions based on the manufacturers of tanks, losing sight of the repair enterprises, success to you ...

[pytar]

Bulgarian enterprises have licenses with Russian companies. Bulgarian companies often work as subcontractors for Russian companies! Thanks Andrew! And I wish you success!

[Bolo]

.... And they deliver weapons and ammunition to the militants in Syria. Not ashamed? Brother?

[Mac Simka]

Have you tried to bring up strangers with strangers?

[Ros 56]

Yes, even let them do it on the moon, there is only one question - why do they need it, with whom are they going to fight? With us, well, it's about twenty minutes, until the guests come to them with different strange names and destructive character.

[Dormidont]

So that later these tanks shot at Russian

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Bulgarians did not shoot at NATO exercises even at targets portraying Russian soldiers, with the words: "Bulgarians do not shoot at Russians," I do not think they will shoot at us from tanks ...

[Mac Simka]

Tales tell us, no?

[LSA57]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

For such an advertisement of Soviet / Russian technology ...

it has long been no longer necessary to advertise.
time has put everything in its place

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

But from the perspective of a member of NATO, this ad looks even more convincing)))

[SerB60]

Let's get it right away for free, but in Russia there is nowhere to put money. Pensioners refuse pensions and stay at work for another 5-8 years.

[igorbrsv]

The world is preparing for a great war. They upgrade and put into operation everything else that is able to move or stay afloat.

[nivander]

cunning Bulgars whine all the time, either NATO hinders them, or the Russian Federation refuses to feed for free. And they themselves are quietly delivering ISIS weapons. Assault rifles removed from our models, machine guns, and guns. And when they are asked a reasonable question - What X ...? and why without a license? --- plaintive howl intensifies many times

[pytar]

Everyone sells weapons to everyone. The truth is sold in accordance with international laws, and where then it diverges, it is on the conscience of the acquirer. He is responsible. For example, with modern Russian weapons igilovtsy beat on the Syrian tanks Assad. Produced in Russia. licenses in Jordania RPG-32 Barkas / Hashim / - is favored by the barmalei.

and why without a license?

Claims for violations of individual rights are resolved in the courts. Can you give at least one example of where and to what court the Russian manufacturer condemned the Bulgarian? Complaints of howling and disinformation on the media, just those who pretend to have a license ask, but here ... they have no such rights!

[Zaurbek]

The bros are still true-minded! They believe, do not respect yourself.

[Mac Simka]

That's why we do not believe you.

[CAT BAIYUN]

I’m wondering: who will repair?

[Kurare]

Poles, Israel, even Italians on the Syrian T-72 were noted, etc.
There the list is quite long, which speaks only about one thing: the potential for modernization in the T-72 was excellent!

[Alexey RA]

It's simple - talk about "outdated" Soviet weapons hits the arms business in Bulgaria.
The Bulgarian "Arsenal" and "VMZ" actively produce and sell the Soviet rifle, grenade launchers and ammunition to everyone who pays - the same RPG-7 grenades and disposable RPGs marked "10 in a double circle" and "11 in a double circle" lit up and from militants in Syria, and even from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass.
Plus, Bulgaria is actively selling and reselling Soviet heavy weapons - both inherited from the ATS and purchased from neighbors.

It is indicative that in official reports to the UN Register of Conventional Arms for 2014, 2015 and 2016, Bulgaria itself declared a significant scale of military exports. During this period, it includes: delivery of 280 infantry fighting vehicles BMP-1 to Iraq (with the import of the same 280 BMP-1 from the Czech Republic), 18 152-mm towed howitzers D-20, 1190 mortars, 40 23-MMA, guns, 210 machine gun anti-tank grenade launchers ATGL-H (Bulgarian analogue SPG-9), 4041 under-barrel grenade launcher, 4370 machine guns (including 700 mm 12,7 caliber), 11 824 machine gun.
To equip the Syrian opposition with Bulgaria in 2014 – 2016, according to reports in the register, Saudi Arabia supplied 19 with MT-LB, 1295 armored mortars, 80 PU 9P135М portable anti-tank missile systems “Konkurs” / “Phagot”; SPG-28 and 23 anti-tank grenade launchers of their Bulgarian counterparts: ATGL-H, XNuchrs RPG-290 and 9 of their Bulgarian counterparts: ATGL, XNUMxXX-mm XGUMUM anti-personnel MSGL anti-personnel grenade launchers and / or their Yugoslav counterparts -Ghun-736-mm MSGL anti-personnel grenade launchers and / or their Yugoslav analogues 700-mm, 7 X NUMX-mm DShK and 100 machine guns, 1970 40 machines. To the United States, for the same purpose, for the same purpose, Sophia, 6. Bulgarian analogues ATGL-H, 2300 RPG-210 and 14,5 of their Bulgarian analogues ATGL, 370 12,7 rifles, 4190 machine guns, 36 machine guns.
The United Arab Emirates has become another recipient of weapons from Bulgaria in recent years. Abu Dhabi buys it, as can be judged, to supply anti-Houssite forces in the Yemeni civil war. Bulgaria has announced the delivery to the UAE of four ATNS 9K115 "Metis", 160 machine guns of 14,5 caliber of a millimeter and 213 Bulgarian ATGL anti-tank grenade launchers.
A significant part of the listed weapons was purchased in third countries.

© bmpd
So criticism of these weapons for Bulgaria is like a sickle in ... business.

[pytar]

Everyone sells weapons to everyone who pays for it. They are sold in accordance with international laws, and where then it diverges, this is on the conscience of the acquirer. He is responsible. Russian weapons are fighting all over the world on both sides of conflicts. For example, produced by Russia. licenses in Jordania RPG-32 Barkas / Hashim / - is favored by the barmalei. The list of countries selling weapons in conflict regions is huge. By the way, Bulgaria exports weapons to the Russian Federation! On 10 million dollars. sold in 2015. I’m not going to quote where and to whom I sold weapons of the Russian Federation, because the list is 10 times longer than the Bulgarian one.

[Zomanus]

But in fact, with whom Bulgaria can fight these tanks?
Only if against us, as part of the European coalition, as in the Second World War.
And for parades and exercises, such sleds will do for her.

[alatanas]

Only if against us, as part of the European coalition, as in the Second World War.

In WWII, Bulgaria was in the dipl. relations with the USSR until 5.09.1944 and after that, 2 fought with the armies of the III Ukrainian Front against Germany.

Read the story carefully.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: alatanas

Only if against us, as part of the European coalition, as in the Second World War.

In WWII, Bulgaria was in the dipl. relations with the USSR until 5.09.1944 and after that, 2 fought with the armies of the III Ukrainian Front against Germany.

Read the story carefully.

Maybe not? And then in history you can find, for example, this:

On March 1, 1941, documents were signed in Vienna on Bulgaria's joining the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo pact.

Bulgaria fought with the Allies. The Bulgarian armed forces replaced the Germans in the occupied territories of Greece and Yugoslavia. Actually. the only difference between Bulgaria and Romania, Hungary or Finland is that the Bulgarians did not fight shoulder to shoulder with the Germans in the USSR.

[pytar]

On March 1, 1941, documents were signed in Vienna on Bulgaria's joining the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo pact.

After signing the pact Ribentrop - Molotov / 23 August 1939 - 22 June 1941 g / from the Comintern to the Bulgarian Communist Party received instructions - to stop anti-German propaganda, stop hostile actions against the monarchical government! From the East to the West, there were echelons that were loaded with rough and materials, while others went back from machines, equipment, etc. In fact, Bulgaria, although it did not sign that pact, it respected the attitude of the USSR for the entire WWII.

Bulgaria fought with the Allies.

With the Anglo-Saxons, we fought in both m. Wars. It's right. As far as I know, they are the biggest enemies of the Slavs ...?

The Bulgarian armed forces replaced the Germans in the occupied territories of Greece and Yugoslavia.

These are the territories with the Bulgarian population that Greece and Serbia occupied in 1913? Territories that the Russian Empire recognized as Bulgarian in 1878! By the way, the Germans didn’t particularly substitute there, since on the other side the Germans were forced to keep constantly 2 ~ 3 divisions in Bulgaria itself during WWII.

Actually. The only difference between Bulgaria and Romania, Hungary or Finland is that the Bulgarians did not fight shoulder to shoulder with the Germans in the territory of the USSR.

Not fought. From the word at all. And this is important especially in view of the fact that the same Bulgarians did not fight badly shoulder to shoulder with the Red Army against Germany. The loss ratio of 2,16X1 creeping into the Bulgarian army!

[pytar]

Well, in fact, with whom Bulgaria can fight these tanks? Only if against us, as part of the European coalition, as in World War II.

Of course! Yes, against anyone else ?! Bulgarians only think - when to attack Russia !? It seems to me that the 13 super-duper upgraded T-72 will be enough for them to walk to the Kremlin ...

[Mac Simka]

Boyan, don’t. You won’t teach them history. They are quite a zombie.

[pytar]

I understand, but I have not lost all hope! Maybe there is still a chance for enlightenment?

[Mac Simka]

There is of course - erase everything and start with the alphabet

[Sergey Medvedev]

Recall that due to the lack of equipment compatible with NATO defense systems, Bulgaria does not participate in joint missions.

And, apparently, and does not want to participate.

[Altona]

In Japan, the leading engineer of Panasonic, 68-year-old Haruto Tagawa tried to commit suicide by writing in a suicide note that the laws of honor do not allow him to continue to develop based on stolen and bought up for the priceless patents of Soviet engineers.

According to Japanese media, the police initially tried to hide the contents of the note, but it turned out that Tagawa photographed it and sent it to friends. In his message, he wrote that he could not continue to “conduct work that is saturated from the bottom and top, built on theft and blessed with dishonor.”

“Everything that we have achieved, we have achieved, thanks to Soviet engineers. The whole modern so-called high-tech is based on their patents, some of which date back to the 1960s, when we could not even dream of something high-tech. Then we stole these patents, I saw spy microfilms transmitted by bribed traitors from the USSR. We bought their patents for nothing when their country collapsed and they had nothing to feed. We are considered to be great inventors in the world, but in fact the great inventor is a Soviet engineer. The one who was deprived of everything. I can no longer work in an industry that has emerged through deception and is based on injustice. My life has been devoted to this deception. I shame on my name, ”he wrote.
source: https://panorama.pub/6759-vedushhij-inzhener-panasonic.html
PS Thanks to the man who acquitted Soviet engineers.

[nathanael]

Yes, in fact, he didn’t reveal anything new .. Why shoot ... Magazine -Technology of youth.Model designer Young technician and dozens of others.Located ideas of discovery Without caring for patents.In the West, thousands of people were enriched.Even Murzilka was sometimes noted

[boris]

Recently, VO has become the norm (by the way, quite wrong) on ​​any
about scolding Bulgaria and the Bulgarians. But didn’t the USSR leader do a lot
for the collapse of CMEA, the Warsaw Treaty Organization, and then the USSR itself?

[pytar]

Recently, VO has become the norm (by the way, quite wrong) on ​​any
about scolding Bulgaria and Bulgarians.

This is not only on BO! This is in all Russian-speaking media! And it is organized, intentionally! The propaganda did not have time to turn the Bulgarians against the Russians! For that there is an attempt to turn the Russians against the Bulgarians! As a goal - to cause otvetka, which ultimately should lead to mutual hatred, even at the household level. Here so litter the nearest nations! The trick is elementary, but very effective!

[otstoy]

T-55 and T-62 are really good tanks for real modern wars, as in Syria, Libya, Sudan and Yemen. And they would also be useful to Donbass residents.
But Armata and T-90 are needed only for global conflicts, which are clearly not expected.

[EvilLion]

Do you use T-55 in Russia? Even on Sakhalin they were gone.

[otstoy]

In storage in the arsenals is still a lot. True, the T-55 is not used, but a small number of T-62 are going to be put back into operation.

[Mac Simka]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

EU removes them from allowance

All is correct. The feeding period is over - it's time to cut. It's funny that they will be removed from the allowance, but they won’t learn to think on their own. They will look for a new owner.

Right now I'll earn the 7th Chinese warning, Adnaka Hello.
You, too, are cut well, and there is no need for fairy tales about the fact that they sold their US Government bonds, the owner did not allow. And while scolding us, tell me what exactly you can. One sale of Iran’s weapons was like sopey. And why the sale of S-300 Syria did not take place? That's right - the owner did not allow you to sell, my independent ones.