Cruise missiles in the Caspian Sea met the "Wall"

In the Southern Military District, they worked out measures to counter the attacks of a conditional enemy, including the use of cruise missiles. According to the head of the press service of the Southern Military District Vadim Astafyev, Caspian ships were involved in maneuvers in the Caspian flotilla and coastal air defense systems.

Vadim Astafyev told the media that the military had completed a tactical device called the Wall. In this case, the technique is called new.

Statement officer leads TASS:

A special system for the construction of ships and aircraft reconnaissance, fighter aviation Together with the capabilities of coastal air defense systems when receiving the "Wall", it allowed to significantly increase the detection range of low-flying targets, including cruise missiles.

Objectives during the maneuvers successfully hit.

In total, about a hundred units of various military equipment were involved in the maneuvers. Among them are the ZRLS (over-the-horizon surface-wave radar) “Sunflower-E”, the “Buk-М3” air defense system, etc.

During the maneuvers, as reported, interspecific interaction was worked out to increase the level of protection of territories and objects.
Recall that was previously concluded for real historical Caspian agreement between Russia, Kazakhstan, Iran, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan. In the West, the signing of this treaty was called the diplomatic victory of Russia.

Comments

[rocket757]

To restore, improve the Schaub system, no enemy hoped that Shaw could suddenly strike and he would have nothing for it!
Difficult, expensive, but necessary!
Absolute defense has not yet been invented, and the means of attack are becoming more sophisticated, anyway a chance to prevent a war is also in this identity.
It's like a SHIELD and SPEAR, everything is important.

[hrych]

ZGRLS is our EVERYTHING. Stealth and CD, all that the adversary had relied on - flew into the chimney, all these long-term costs and efforts turned into a zilch because of the Container and the Sunflower.

Quote: rocket757

means of attack are becoming more sophisticated

Their high-altitude breakthrough failed, hi Powers with Chenny thrush and Valkyrie, the low-altitude breakthrough failed to greet Tomahawk and the Stels. That poor fellows dreamed of a space breakthrough, and hitchhiking in the Union, and on our engines, The shuttle rested in a Bose, one hope for depression-prone Ilona

[rocket757]

Sales incident with U-2, Powers, this is not the final point in attempts to carry out a high-altitude breakthrough / attack ... not all methods have been tested, much less invented!
The same situation in other planes of the horizon. You can’t be ready for absolutely anything if the enemy is able to maintain secrecy.
Anyway, the system is something that is more resistant to any surprises, if enough "elastic" response / action algorithms are put into it.
In short, work, develop, do not rest on what has been achieved.

[Alexey-74]

The Caspian wall of anti-aircraft defense / missile defense is something new, although in this turbulent age it is necessary to constantly think up something in terms of protection ... well, of course

[Victor_B]

In the wake of the Syrian war, I get the impression that cruise missiles are a fairly vulnerable target for air defense. Good, layered.
An alarm creeps in for our X-100, vigorous. After all, there are 160 pieces of them on TU-12. Fly them across Canada for hours. Everything that can fly and shoot will be raised to intercept, but on the ground as well.
Oh, not all rockets will be able to bring light and heat to the homes of US residents ... Oh, not all ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Victor_B

An alarm creeps in for our X-100, vigorous. After all, there are 160 pieces of them on TU-12. Fly them across Canada for hours. Everything that can fly and shoot will be raised to intercept, but on the ground as well.

When these ALCMs fly, NORAD will already be pretty pokotsat strikes ICBMs and SLBMs.
And the very northern direction in the air defense of the American continent has always been considered the weakest - for technical reasons the ziggurats of the over-the-horizon radar with the PAR (AN / FPS-132) could not work in the north direction (more precisely, they could, but practically did not see anything). So from the north there was a chain of conventional OVC radars.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Victor_B

And the very northern direction in the air defense of the American continent has always been considered the weakest - for technical reasons.

When these ALCMs fly, NORAD will already be pretty pokotsat strikes ICBMs and SLBMs.
And the very northern direction in the air defense of the American continent has always been considered the weakest - for technical reasons the ziggurats of the over-the-horizon radar with the PAR (AN / FPS-132) could not work in the north direction (more precisely, they could, but practically did not see anything). So from the north there was a chain of conventional OVC radars.

Do not underestimate the enemy.
The point is that the ALCV vigorous loaves that our missile carriers must launch in one salvo are not thousands at all. And you correctly noticed

When these ALCMs fly, NORAD will already be pretty pokotsat strikes ICBMs and SLBMs

Only after all, and at this very time, nuclear mushrooms will grow at full speed ... Most likely sooner than theirs.

[igorbrsv]

Most already will already have who had the most beautiful mushroom and where the meadow is more beautiful

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Victor_B

Only after all, and at this very time, nuclear mushrooms will grow at full speed ... Most likely sooner than theirs.

If the missile carriers took off, then these mushrooms are no longer afraid of them. And if not, then the power of NORAD will not matter to them.

[Random]

Quote: Alexey RA

NORAD will be pretty pokotsat strikes ICBMs and SLBMs

Alexey, dear, by this "time" all "places" of the possible basing of the Tu-160 ... will be turned into ... a desert

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Random

Alexey, dear, by this "time" all "places" of the possible basing of the Tu-160 ... will be turned into ... a desert

So this is the advantage of the air component of the nuclear triad, that with the regular development of events it can be raised into the air before the impact. Engels and the foregrounds will be empty - the carriers of strategic ALCMs at that time will cut circles in the waiting areas.
And after the ICBMs have been worked out, the strategists will go to "clean up".

[hrych]

Quote: Victor_B

An alarm creeps in for our X-100, vigorous.

That is why the Tu-160, which does not enter the enemy’s active air defense zone, throws off the KR from those directions where it is impossible to create a layered defense. Do not forget that the enemy is a sea power and all its cities and bases are concentrated on the coast. Of course, they will create an analogue of our Container and Sunflower over time, but they can not stop Poseidon, Burevestnik, Dagger and Vanguard, as well as a strike from the South Polis with Sarmatian warheads, they will also force them to defend missile defense from the South, which is completely virgin. X-101/102 is not terrible separately, but in a combination of all means, also the EU will be very upset by the Tu22M3 strategists.

[Random]

Quote: hrych

That's why the Tu-160, which is not entering the active zone of the enemy’s air defense, it resets the KR

The B-52 also carries 12 AKPs, and the B-1B-24, I’m not talking about B-2 yet, but there is the same option as either 10 or 20.
Now count their number?

Quote: hrych

Do not forget that the enemy is a sea power and all its cities and bases are concentrated on the coast.

And also do not forget that the enemy has a fleet ... with Aegis and SAM-6

Quote: hrych

Of course, they will create an analogue of our Container and Sunflower over time.

Why do you think they are bare and barefoot?

Quote: hrych

however Poseidon, Petrel, Dagger and Vanguard they can not stop, also a strike from the South Polis with Sarmatian warheads

This first needs to be created and put into service, but the Virginia is already all combat-ready and the rest with Axes the same.
And if they wish, they can start even tomorrow, and you ... wake them "cartoons" to show?

Quote: hrych

the EU will also be very upset by the Tu22M3 strategists.

What is it like ? Back in the days of the USSR, when the Tu-22M3 was .. "sea", then their use according to the "option number 2" was associated with very big problems .... but here you do not have a single "strategist" for the Tu-22M3M version .but already ...... going ..."to upset the whole EU very much"

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Random

B-52 also carries 12 AKP, and B-1B-24,

B-1B has long ceased to carry strategic ALCMs.
In the United States, the only type of ALCM carriers remained in the NAC - pensioners V-52N.

[Sergei1982]

Quote: hrych

Of course, they will create an analogue of our Container and Sunflower over time.

Hehe, they already have this for a long time, but we are still acquiring http://factmil.com/publ/strana/avstralija/zagorizontnye_rls_kak_sostavnaja_
chast_razvedyvatelno_informacionnykh_sredstv_zarubezhnykh_stran/57-1-0-953 вот еще статья http://pentagonus.ru/publ/amerikanskie_zagorizontnye_rls_sistemy_414l/18-1-0-1386
So while we have ONE Container, the adversary already has a network.

Quote: hrych

the EU will also be very upset by the Tu22M3 strategists.
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Excuse me, when did they become strategists?

[earloop]

Clever military leaders try to develop effective tactics and methods of armed struggle against a potential enemy in their offices and work out in the "field" during exercises. The "Wall" technique is the "aerobatics" of the district command. "Study, study and study" of military science in a real way - such a mix of Lenin's quotations is quite consistent with modern challenges. And the military is learning!

[Victor_B]

Quote: hrych

Quote: Victor_B

An alarm creeps in for our X-100, vigorous.

That is why the Tu-160, which does not enter the enemy’s active air defense zone, throws off the KR from those directions where it is impossible to create a layered defense. Do not forget that the enemy is a sea power and all its cities and bases are concentrated on the coast. Of course, they will create an analogue of our Container and Sunflower over time, but they can not stop Poseidon, Burevestnik, Dagger and Vanguard, as well as a strike from the South Polis with Sarmatian warheads, they will also force them to defend missile defense from the South, which is completely virgin. X-101/102 is not terrible separately, but in a combination of all means, also the EU will be very upset by the Tu22M3 strategists.

The initial idea of ​​my post - the previous massive use of the Kyrgyz Republic by the states against Iraq and Libya was VERY effective. But there is essentially zero with air defense.
Kyrgyzstan’s attacks on Syria have demonstrated their high vulnerability with competent air defense.
At the same time, strikes were made on objects not covered by (officially) Russian air defense. Long-range systems and air defense did not work.
It can be assumed that the effectiveness of air defense can be even higher.

[Mr Credo]

Well, in Syria, they seemed to know about the time of the attack! Will they always inform us before the blow !?

[Victor_B]

My reasoning concerns only the vulnerability of cruise missiles.
The war in Syria has demonstrated that modern air defense is very effective.
I am sure that the MO of the states are very puzzled. KR ceased to be wunderwafers.
With regard to the use of Raman with nuclear charges, then one base (for example, Khmeimim) no one can shoot at once 50 nuclear loaves in one salvo, and single missiles do not reach.
In this case, please do not oppose the arguments that nuclear explosions will clog radars, etc.
From our side, there is also something to shoot at carriers.
In general, it is useless to talk about the progress of a chess game before it begins. Too many event branches.

[Random]

Quote: Victor_B

From our side, there is also something to shoot at carriers.

! April 4, 2018, Syria, another air strike of the Kyrgyz coalition.
From the Americans, -2 strategic bomber B-1B Lancer from the 34th US Air Force Bomber Squadron at El Udeid Air Force Base (Qatar), armed with AGM-158 JASSM air-launched cruise missiles, participated.
- 4 fighter F-22A Raptor.
- Airborne EW EA-6 Prowler KMP USA.
- UAV RQ-4 Global Hawk carried out reconnaissance.
- 8 F-15C fighters of the US Air Force European Command at Aviano Air Base (Italy) carried out air cover.
- 7 F-16 fighters of the European Air Force command at the airbase Aviano (Italy) carried out air cover.
so who among ours "shot" the carriers and how many ... "shot down"?

[SETTGF]

Random! And who shot at the Russian military ??? Otherwise, the end would come - and the carriers too ...

[dzvero]

The Syrian example is not entirely correct. The Americans did not have the opportunity to destroy the control of air defense forces because information was supplied by Russian systems. Also, a blow from the side of the Mediterranean Sea was ruled out :) So they had to go along the southern corridor with horns forward to the air defense system. Accordingly, the loss.
In the event of a massive mess, the raid will be 'stellar', there will be missiles to suppress the radar (not necessarily with nuclear warheads), there will be a massive use of REB means, there will be aviation, there will be a lot of things ... The strike pursued political (Trump said - Trump struck) rather than purely military goals.

[2329 Carpenter]

How clever everything is written here in the posts! The main thing is yesterday's indignants of our failed economy and anti-people government.
Along the way, guys, you went through a good school of "Echo of Moscow" and Venediktov in particular. There is no other way to say.
Here, damn it, it’s shitty with us! And they steal through one. In general, it's time to make a revolution. One, I remember, already wrapped machine-gun tapes ...
But we have a lot of weapons! (Yes, and there is a good one ...)
And the fact that the weapon costs money, and quite a lot, and how much money the defense requires, and where this money comes from - this is what the story in the person of "fighters" for justice and other nishtyaki for the people is silent about. Either in the brain, some have lost a causal relationship, or just the habit of barking at those who disagree in the usual flock ... Well, for some, maybe. just insanity on the basis of a shift of the desired into reality.
Everything seems to be taken by itself for our own defense, and most importantly - from nowhere.
I wanted to ask - do they say it’s not dumb?
Yes, someone to ask ...

[Victor_B]

Gentlemen!
Let's digress from Syria. There, military operations will develop as usual.
Without destruction of carriers and without special warheads.
I am trying to pose the question in general form:
1. We bring down KR in VERY commodity quantities, almost guaranteed to protect our facilities.
2. Based on the practice of combat experience, it can be argued that the United States will be able to do the same, well, albeit a little less efficiently.
US air defense is not built on ground-based missiles, but on aviation. The widespread use of Avax over its territory makes it possible to reliably destroy individual or small groups of missiles going to one object.

[Victor_B]

Gentlemen!
Let's digress from Syria. There, military operations will develop as usual.
Without destruction of carriers and without special warheads.
I am trying to pose the question in general form:
1. We bring down KR in VERY commodity quantities, almost guaranteed to protect our facilities.
2. Based on the practice of combat experience, it can be argued that the United States will be able to do the same, well, albeit a little less efficiently. Or more? (They haven’t shot down our missiles yet. They haven’t trained.)
US air defense is not built on ground-based missiles, but on aviation. The widespread use of Avax over its territory makes it possible to reliably destroy individual or small groups of missiles going to individual objects.
The logic is not to engage in cap-making, but to proceed from the fact that they can be the same as us. Better, worse, but about the same.
Conclusion:
The likelihood of our CRs achieving goals on the territory of "probable friends" is certainly less than 50%. However, as they do on our territory. (After all, our air defense, wow, everyone is like Tuzik a heating pad!)

[SETTGF]

Victor_B! Don't assume what you don't know ... in fact, everything will be wrong! And to begin with, study the parameters of our cruise missiles well, rather than write "nonsense" ... Detecting is not the most important thing, you need to shoot down, but it is not so easy! During maneuvers, 2 aircraft missiles hitting the Granit missile, they could not be guaranteed to intercept it ...

[SETTGF]

Victor_B! And the hit percentage will be more than 50% ...

[SETTGF]

Victor_B! Do not wishful thinking! In a nuclear conflict, the main blow to the territory of a likely enemy will be carried out first by ballistic thermonuclear missiles, then by cruise missiles - the probability of a breakthrough is much increased ... And this is the end of all of humanity! And nobody needs it!

[Victor_B]

In a nuclear conflict, the main blow to the territory of a likely enemy will be carried out first by ballistic thermonuclear missiles, then by cruise missiles - the probability of a breakthrough is much increased ...

Christmas trees with sticks !!!
No need to compare our X-100 with American Axes!
There are no vigorous loaves on the axes. Generally!
Try to shoot Granite in Washington, it is not located on the shore.
And with the early detection of CR in Americans, everything is a bunch. AWAX is really good, I think it’s no worse than our A-50s. And VERY many of them riveted, I don’t know how many times, but maybe an order of magnitude (i.e. 10 times) more. Or 2 orders.
And those KR, which with amer’s nuclear heads fly at about the same distance and, at least, not with worse accuracy. (We neglect advertising booklets.)
As for the ICBMs, they will fly to us earlier. (Well, the doctrine we have is this. The basic law of preparation for war. The constitution of the war.)
One thing pleases Zhenya that you are not planning the work of our strategic nuclear forces. Yes, and air defense, otherwise they would have planned.

[Rzzz]

When at last it comes to the photographers that shooting sailors with a microphone by the face is stupid and corny. They themselves are already laughing at such stereotypical photos. People are kidding that they are photographed with microphones in their faces more often than Kirkorov’s.