Descendant of GAZ-66 interested in the countries of Asia and Africa

Minsk wheel tractor plant presented at the Army-2018 forum a proven truck MZKT-500200, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

The car is already well known, but for Belarusian foreigners it remains a surprise.

The MZKT-500200 truck was created based on the Soviet GAZ-66, which at one time was perhaps the most popular on-board vehicle of the Soviet army. Its benefits were simplicity, ease of operation and maintenance. The machine was operated without any complaints for decades in all regions of the USSR, as well as in many foreign countries.

But the time of this workhorse has passed. In Russia, the new versions of this car was not created. But in Belarus did. For a number of parameters, the new truck has surpassed its predecessor.

Four-wheel drive (4х4) MZKT-500200 has a carrying capacity of up to 3 tons and can reach speeds of up to 95 km / h. Power reserve - 1000 km. It is lower than the GAZ-66, which increased its stability, and more agile when cornering. In addition, it became easier to load into the body.

The car MZKT-500200 showed itself well in the service in the border troops of Belarus. At the Army-2018 military-technical forum, representatives of several African and Asian countries became interested in the truck.

Comments

[maxim947]

Extremely passable truck, and for a small amount of cargo - that's it. But for us it’s all the same - shishiga)

[Nikolai]

I believe the right move, but confirmed by interest. The niche after 66 is not busy; everything that is offered is an order of magnitude more expensive and with options that are not always needed. But the niche of cheap unpretentious and reliable GAZ-66 is free, I think it will ...

[Alekseev]

Quote: Nikolai Nikolaevich

here the niche of cheap unpretentious and reliable GAZ-66 is free, I think it will ...

Gas-66 and now available, only the cab is bonneted, and the diesel is used in the configuration instead of the gasoline engine. Gas 3308 "Sadko" is called.
It's about "free niche".
MZKT-500200 weighs about 5,3 tons, Gaz-66 - 3,5 tons. True, the carrying capacity of the Minsk resident is only 3 tons, the 66th has 2 tons, "Sadko" -2,5.
So the niches here are different: MZKT is approaching a two-axle Kamaz - Airborne Forces (7 tons mass), and probably also at a price: a YaMZ-534 diesel costs (over 600 thousand rubles) almost like a gasoline "shishiga".
It is a pity that now there are a lot of incompetent boltologies, including and in.
But it is not necessary to invent bicycles on the MZKT, it is better to make tractors and put the case in such a way that, for various reasons, often not only of a technical nature, the consumer is not afraid to take them.

[AnpeL]

the unpretentiousness of the shishiga is yes, but about the reliability, I would not agree. perhaps until a certain age (mileage) the car does not declare itself, but then ... one of the most "obscene" cars. with all this, I would take one (just the 66th) to the village.

[voile]

I agree, until you bring shishigu to mind swearing)))

[Romka47]

The dude who wrote about the ease of operation clearly did not switch to the 66th gearbox

[svp67]

Quote: Alekseev

And bicycles on the MZKT do not need to be invented,

Well, "marking time", for any enterprise - like death

Quote: Alekseev

put the case in such a way that, for various reasons, often not only of a technical nature, the consumer is not afraid to take them.

In that dispute, it was no longer politics or technical difficulties, but business and nothing personal. Russia wanted to take control of this enterprise, Batko said - NO.

[Alekseev]

Quote: svp67

"marking time", for any enterprise - like death

Greetings!
I think that the assembly of such a car from ready-made components and assemblies is not at all great progress for an enterprise producing heavy tractors.
In this case, the car, albeit a good one, does not possess any outstanding qualities, it will not be easy for it to compete, there are no "free niches" either in Africa or "everywhere" today.
We need a low price with acceptable quality, but for this a large series, respectively, the production line - a new plant, however.
As for Russia's control over the MZKT, it seems that in the territory of another state such control in full is impossible, despite all sorts of property rights, controlling stakes, etc.
While the need for superheavy aircraft of the RF Armed Forces meets the MZKT, and in the near future, all of them are waiting for their replacement with Russian-made cars.

[Maz]

Soap dish dear, how much I drove along the border on it and do not count!

[Maksus]

Easy to control shishig ???? Did the author at least once sit in the place of the carrier? Hands would be torn off ... But I can’t say anything about the new car, except that only soot trucks can be in the army, nevertheless, you need to think about safety first of all, when you hit a mine in a cabless drive drove off.

[tap]

It seems to have passed this topic. Cabin above the front axle. Now it’s not so fashionable. When you hit a mine, it’s especially not good.

[self-propelled]

Quote: zapfen

+3
It seems to have passed this topic. Cabin above the front axle. Now it’s not so fashionable. When you hit a mine, it’s especially not good.

you might think that army cars are doing nothing but driving through minefields. Do you propose to bring bread from the bakery or an outfit from the commandant's office to the points on MRAP? isn't it expensive?

[Mih1974]

And what have replaced 66 in the troops, well, that is, it implies the write-off and "disposal" of shishig and should the Headquarters have somehow foreseen this? Of course, Kamaz is a good thing, but it seems to be more voracious and judging by the war in Ukraine (and this is the closest version of the "big war"), "Kamaz" will often be redundant and more bulky. At least the militia lacks exactly "66" and "loaves". This was due to the mobility of warfare and the senselessness of loading "KamAZ" to the eyeballs.
PySy: I judge amateurishly only on open sources, videos, photos, records of fighters of LDNR.

[Nashensky city]

KAMAZ-4350 "Mustang" was supposed to be a replacement. 26,5 liters per hundred. It's all here https://promplace.ru/gruzovye-avtomobili-staty-i-obzory/kamaz-4350-1326.htm

[sabakina]

No shishigi, no ZIL-157, no ZIL-131. Kamaz alone ... Corruption, you know ...

[Nashensky city]

Corruption, you know ...

Well, how in due time Poghosyan MiG pushed

[sabakina]

I am a car man. I can’t say anything about MiG and SU, but ZIL 157, with a power steering and a good stove, but in war conditions ... As long as Kamaz rivets one thing, ZIL would do five ...

[Nashensky city]

Clearly. But in my opinion the 157th passed the baton to the Urals, a shishiga with him in different weight categories.

[Zaurbek]

In this weight, only GASes, but NEXTs approved by the military yet. And Belarusians got a good series of 8x8, 6x6, 4x4 .... all on the same suspension hangars. and our TIGER type is still a car.

[sabakina]

The fact of the matter is that we need different weight categories. It’s one thing, excuse me, to bring food to pigs for subsidiary plots, (although I assure you that they remained), or there to the bath-and-laundry plant (which I did with my father more than once), and to bring the ammunition to the front line, loaded to the top.

[Nashensky city]

need different weight categories

So I about it. Mustang with 66m, in one weight category, 4-axle, hoodless truck. To carry food to pigs, and not only, will

[Slinqshot]

She said this about Tu - as long as not a single new Tu is alive.

[sabakina]

Quote: Slinqshot

She said this about Tu - as long as not a single new Tu is alive.

Who said?

[Mih1974]

Sorry - not a specialist in cars)) only concluded by watching the video how the war is going on in Ukraine.

[Romka47]

Well, let's face it, we’ll see it all long ago become obsolete for the first time, secondly, at the storage bases and 131 and 66 there are darkness that Mo can even sell them to the population for cheap. Well, 157, with all my love for him, well, it's even before 131 out of date

[Dreamboat]

"Shishiga" is not even the past, but the generation before last. In the "national economy" it was replaced by the bonnet "Gas Jaeger" and all-wheel drive Kamaz trucks (in 2019 we are waiting in the GazJegerNext series, so far presented only at exhibitions). The troops have their own nomenclature, but it seems that the rate is placed on the MRAP of the Typhoon series (4x4 and airborne forces) or Tigers with Shots. Shishigi's niche: the transport of small towed weapons with the calculation is constantly narrowing due to the reduction of towed weapons and the realization that transporting people in flatbed trucks is fraught.

[cariperpaint]

So the Defense Ministry said this year that there would be no more ordinary Urals and KAMAZ troops. Typhoons and tornadoes.

[Nashensky city]

Shishigi's niche: the transportation of small towed weapons with the calculation is constantly narrowing due to the reduction of towed weapons and the realization that transporting people in flatbed trucks is fraught with

The whole modern theory of war is based only on assumptions, because serious wars were not long ago (and thank God). If one begins, vigorous countries will definitely participate. And if they participate, MRAPs there will not help

[sabakina]

Alexander, if a vigorous war begins, cars will generally be irrelevant, given their electronic filling. Only baboons and ignition coils will save us.

[Nashensky city]

They will get those where there is no electronics, it will not rust behind us

[dvina71]

Quote: sabakina

cars will generally be irrelevant,

A diesel engine with mechanical injection of emy on the drum .. it’s only necessary to start electric power .. and not all of them.

[Dreamboat]

The dubious assertion that there was no "big war". How many years has the war in Afghanistan and Iraq been going on? This is not a "local operation" for a long time. And the experience of these wars led to a revision of the auto equipment not only of the participants, but also of our army. In particular, the emergence of the concept of MRAP. No (yet, thank God) world war or atomic war.

[sabakina]

Dreamboat, it's impossible to unify a car. Either he is for big business, or he is for small business. You will not carry waste for pigs in BelAZ, having ZIL at hand?

[Dreamboat]

Quote: sabakina

Dreamboat, it's impossible to unify a car. Either he is for big business, or he is for small business. You will not carry waste for pigs in BelAZ, having ZIL at hand?

And I didn’t say that.

[maxim947]

And what replaced 66 in the troops ...

Replaced by lawns

[Maksus]

Shishigi was replaced by Sadko, here after 66 it was comfortable and convenient to drive, we had two 2 APs based on 66 and 3308, there was an opportunity to compare, Sadko definitely won.

[marshes]

There is an excellent KAMAZ-4326, there is a GAZ Sadko NEXT with a hood, I plan to buy with a remake for the rest.
So who will need the MZKT-500200, if the price is cheaper.

[sabakina]

Quote: marshes

There is an excellent KAMAZ-4326, there is a GAZ Sadko NEXT with a hood, I plan to buy with a remake for the rest ..

swamps, and long ago became a buy?

[marshes]

Quote: sabakina

swamps, and long ago became a buy?

Yes, somewhere after 2007. And it would be richer if I threw three one-room apartments of 100 each before that year, well, it didn’t matter took 4.5-8 thousand, from 1996-2000.

[sabakina]

It’s understandable with you, swamps. Yet Soviet films are prophetic ...

[marshes]

Quote: sabakina

It’s understandable with you, swamps. Yet Soviet films are prophetic ...

So what? I am the only one in our large family who has a land team education. Everyone lives close, in a 20-30 minute drive. So I can’t put together a large army, about 100 people and their relatives will catch up.

[free]

Quote: sabakina

It’s understandable with you, swamps. Yet Soviet films are prophetic ...

!!!

[tank66]

For several years I have invested in the equipment of Transneft, whoever I didn’t come across ... right up to a fire tank. The most hemorrhoid is sadko / I’ll remember and spit /. Don't take it, friend. You’re sorry. And on the topic: for fishing, hunting, with problems / type of certification for traffic police / in shishigu from conservation, they put a Belarusian diesel engine "through the stove" from the checkpoint / from MTZ-80 there are several modifications / kung pushing them - it turned out a fairy tale. Of course, on the highway, even 80 does not go, but for a day - a bucket of diesel fuel. ..For any type / where there are no mines /
That would be who serially married. And about super-66, I read it in the net / I didn’t feel it myself / Belarusian border guards spit, and dvigun turbo is still damp for the army ....

[marshes]

Quote: tank66

.The most hemorrhoid is a cadet

I know about those, because of this NEXT, I want to take it. Three Buses on the Route, they have already beaten off their grandmothers.

Quote: tank66

kicked up - it turned out a fairy tale

I’ll do the same thing, I’m also planning to buy cutters, and there the semitrailer., I just changed the rights, I opened almost all categories.

[sabakina]

What is it like? Changed the rights for a bribe? but studying in the category did not try? and how side is the auto-inspection for shipping?

[marshes]

Quote: sabakina

What is it like? Changed the rights for a bribe? but studying in the category did not try? and how side is the auto-inspection for shipping?

The term approached the exchange, 10 years, everywhere I studied there are certificates. If I gave daughters only if past the queue, yes faster.

[marshes]

By the way, Shishiga is an excellent car, petrol. It eats from 72 to 92 gasoline and the valves burn out, it is treated by adjusting the ignition timing. that the car is glorious but yesterday. 76-80 is no longer produced and 92 roads, and yes, damn solarium we have like 95 gasoline became at a cost.

For that, it starts up with a half-kick curve, like 52-53, etc. Yes, in any frost.

[sabakina]

It is lower than KAZ-66, which increased its stability

sho for such a beast? Colchis?

[cariperpaint]

Georgian miracle))) so she was called)))

[sabakina]

Yes, in the know, in his youth, he used to go for potatoes in this chyde. I'm talking about the text in the article ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: sabakina

Colchis?

Georgians have their hands growing from one place, I have never heard good words about Colchis. They drove one to us for repair, they asked to replace it with an ordinary 130. In a Georgian cart, only carry tea, the cab reclined on the go, but it seems that the kindergarten in a state of intoxication collected these cars.

[Antidote]

How was this not created? Gas Sadko is made as development 66, taking into account its advantages and with normal ergonomics for the driver.

[Engineer]

Its advantages were its unpretentiousness, ease of operation and maintenance.

Obviously, the author of these words did not sit in the cockpit and did not try to pull the gear lever behind the saddle. And to open the hood or to tilt the whole cabin - different things. Jambs in this arrangement is full - one advantage - maneuverability, which was especially valuable on mountain roads. But the same Afghan showed that the detonation of mines under the wheels of a bonnet truck increases the chances of crew survival.

The MZKT-500200 car showed itself well in the service in the border troops of Belarus

The first version of the Belarusian 66th was not so successful, by the way, and did not show itself anywhere

[BABA SHURA]

Give Belarus compasses.

[Dr. Sorge]

This style is now square-nested. Fashion and manufacturability.

[andrewkor]

Everyone had a GAZ-66 khrosh, but a double cab is, I think, a drawback. They took me to the demobilization from point to part, the place was only on an awning. November, Moscow Region, -20 overboard. Thank you, the driver also donated his pea jacket .

[sabakina]

I drove on the hood of the GAZ-66 in the second grade from a sanatorium-forest school for the holidays. How dad took Shishiga to transport me, is covered in mystery.

[Real russian]

Quote: sabakina

I drove on the hood of the GAZ-66 in the second grade from a sanatorium-forest school for the holidays. How dad took Shishiga to transport me, is covered in mystery.

- such thieving officers as your unlucky daddy, the Union and profiled. Squandering the people's goods for the transportation of everything there ...

[Dikson]

Ha! We have somehow five !!! fighters in a motor vehicle rode in the cabin of the 66th .. crammed like sprats in a jar ..)))

[ANCIENT]

"Shishiga" is the history of our army and our defense industry !!! Why we didn’t replace it, I don’t know, but I give Belarusians respect and respect for their option !!! A holy place is never empty - we will not do it, others will do !!!!

[marshes]

Quote: ANCIENT

-We will not do it, others will do !!!!

Kamaz has such a thing. And so Shishiga is a copy-paste of the unimaginous Unimag. I was in 1966, brought from the Bundesfer sale. I bought fishermen-hunters.

[Alexey RA]

The MZKT-500200 truck was created based on the Soviet GAZ-66, which at one time was perhaps the most popular onboard car of the Soviet army.

I hope that all the shift knobs are left as if on a shishig - to the right of the driver, behind his back?

They say that a person who has been traveling on a shishiga for more than three months has a right arm growing out of his lower back. ©

[dgonni]

The front suspension is independent! Otsyudova and stability and lower height. Cabin gut! Show box control otherwise the phrase (Its advantages were its unpretentiousness, ease of operation and maintenance) simply killed me Who learned to change gears on a shishiga will ride anything

[2329 Carpenter]

A masterpiece, indestructible, tank patency.
We can when we want!

[Peaceful Atom]

Quote: sabakina

It is lower than KAZ-66, which increased its stability

sho for such a beast? Colchis?

I remember the summer of 83, in the construction brigade, in the Poltava region, they were building a cowshed. They took us in a brand new "Colchis". So, I am driving in the cab with a friend, the rest are in the back. We drove a couple of kilometers - and then the carrier starts to swear wildly! I look - and he has a gear lever in his hands separately from the car. In short, some kind of hairpin flew out, the lever fell off and fell off. ! He says: when we went to Kutaisi with a Zavgar to receive a pepelats, the head of the sales department of the automobile plant asked where the guests were from. Hearing about Ukraine, he briefly summed up: "Ne doedet!" Here's a story))))))))))))))))))

[dgonni]

Colchis did not have a body! There was a semitrailer!

[Yuriy_999]

Colchis did not have a body!

Was, KAZ-4540, 4x4 all-wheel drive

[vladcub]

Shishiga could get out of any priest, but in Afghanistan many died on mines. About 1'5 years ago there was a TV program about shishiga. At GAZ, they seem to have created a successor to the "shishige"

[Doliva63]

Quote: vladcub

Shishiga could get out of any priest, but in Afghanistan many died on mines. About 1'5 years ago there was a TV program about shishiga. At GAZ, they seem to have created a successor to the "shishige"

With a stupid bosses on a well-placed mine, any truck will die, however, including an armored one — other armored personnel carriers are breaking through.

[Ros 56]

But what has the shishigu replaced with a civilian?

[iwakura]

Shishigi is replaced by Sadko gas (the same base, but the cab is shaded from the lawn with a hood and the body is shorter), the more extreme version is called the huntsman, there is a built-in winch and more, there is a two-row cab for working crews, etc.

[16112014nk]

MZKT - 500200 - + 100500 !!!

[Hiller]

For its time, shishiga is a wonderful pepelats. He crawled along the tank tracks and did not cough. In motorized rifle battalions, mortar batteries were all on them. Unpretentious. Yes in the cockpit - not ice))). 500 beats per minute at the fifth point. Repair is not a problem. Now - indisputably outdated.

[Real russian]

Shishiga - German Unimog design, in the conditions of our ugly Soviet production realities. Worse was the reliability of the car in nature, some disrespect for their own soldiers. Come on, there would be Western details, everything could be replaced. So they were not there - do not change me ... one song.

[Rostislav Bely]

Any bonnet option gives the driver more chances to survive - less personnel losses, or everyone forgot because of what they removed them from Afghanistan

[free]

We have a direct descendant of 66, it’s gas Sadko. The Belarussian truck is not bad but the body is still tall, but like the Sadko. Is it also interesting diesel or what?

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well .. A descendant is not a descendant .. What's the difference? Is it in demand? Fine. Will do.
Not in demand? Sorry. So there are marketing problems! Need to fix, do and sell!
If this didn’t work either - it’s not a problem. We’ll come up with something else.