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SBU summoned for questioning the owner of the Mechanic Pogodin

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Investigators of the SBU summoned for questioning an official representative of VF Tanker, the owner of the Russian ship Mechanic Pogodin detained in Kherson.



In the press service of the company сообщилиthat 23 of August was the representative of the shipowner summoned to the SBU under the pretext of discussing legal issues, but instead he was given two summonses for questioning as a witness, scheduled for 28 and 29 of August.

In the meantime, a company representative should immediately leave the territory of Ukraine. Thus, Ukrainian law enforcement officers still shy away from discussing the legal basis for the detention of the tanker Mechanic Pogodin.

Criminal case No. 42014000000001194, under which investigative actions are being carried out, was instituted as early as 2014 year on three articles - state treason, abuse of power, violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine. According to employees of the SBU, it is "universal" because it has been used for several years as a tool for law enforcement agencies to conduct investigative operations throughout Ukraine. As part of this case, more than 100 procedural decisions have already been made, several courts have been arrested, dozens of searches, seizures and interrogations have been conducted.

Earlier it was reported that "Pogodin" was detained by the Ukrainian special services due to the fact that the shipowner company is listed in the sanction list. However, it is not. As the law enforcement authorities explained, the reason for the detention of the vessel was the fact that its construction was financed by the leasing company VEB-Leasing, which is under Kiev sanctions.

Nobody cares that since the launching (2011 year) "Mechanic Pogodin" is on the balance of the shipowner - the company "VF Tanker", not included in the sanction lists,
says release.

Recall, the Russian ship was detained in Kherson on August 10 without explanation. The official claim to the tanker arrived only 18 August. According to a member of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich, if in the near future Pogodin does not get an opportunity to leave the Ukrainian port, Russia's reaction will be extremely tough.
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  1. A good one
    A good one 26 August 2018 08: 46
    +2
    The Americans will not be allowed to return the ship, they will test our patience. Duma thinkers would be silent with their statements and would wave a saber in their smoking room.
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 26 August 2018 08: 58
      +1
      The sane Russian authorities would long ago have prohibited all Russian vessels from entering Ukrainian ports. And call at Russian ports to all ships calling at ports of Ukraine, starting from the date of the announcement of these sanctions.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 26 August 2018 09: 49
        +2
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        The sane Russian authorities would long ago have prohibited all Russian vessels from entering Ukrainian ports.

        on what grounds can they ban? it is not the property of the Russian Federation
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 26 August 2018 11: 05
          +3
          Regularly past the moored Mechanic Pogodin in Kherson are vessels with Russian ports of registry.
          https://www.marinetraffic.com/ru/ais/home/centerx:32.550/centery:46.598/zoom:14
        2. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 26 August 2018 11: 55
          +2
          LSA57Do you troll or what?
          On the basis of what sanctions are imposed against Russia, including the same Ukraine? The law or decree of the President of the Russian Federation, in my opinion, is a sufficient basis for it to be executed by all entities operating on the territory of the Russian Federation, including in relation to ships with a foreign flag. There are still government orders. This is if a lower level cannot be resolved.
          I also hope that land communication with Ukraine will be terminated not only passenger (as the junta wants to separate the people), but also cargo. Stop feeding the junta.
          PS. The absurdity of the situation is that "Mechanic Pogodin" brought diesel fuel to refuel the Nazi tanks so that Bandera would kill as many Russians as possible. Jesuit demagoguery cannot reverse this fact. The recipient - a foreign company - is for taxes only. Petro Waltzman himself launches off-shores for the skakuas. The purpose, they say, is different - then the other diesel fuel available in Ukraine will go to refueling Nazi tanks, instead of using it for the intended purpose, for which the fuel was brought by "Mechanic Pogodin".
          1. mishaia_23
            mishaia_23 26 August 2018 12: 15
            +4
            "Mechanic Pogodin" brought diesel fuel ...
            It's simple.
            They want to withdraw diesel fuel and not to flood.
            Nothing personal (political), just business.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 28
            0
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            Are you a troll or something?

            urge you to think
            On the basis of what sanctions are imposed against Russia, including the same Ukraine? The law or decree of the President of the Russian Federation, in my opinion, is a sufficient basis for it to be executed by all entities operating on the territory of the Russian Federation, including in relation to ships with a foreign flag.

            the owner of the vessel is not a citizen of the Russian Federation. this law is an empty phrase for him. and when it will be accepted.
            I also hope that land communication with Ukraine will be terminated not only passenger (as the junta wants to separate the people), but also cargo. Stop feeding the junta.

            you probably have no relatives vna ukraine
            [quote The absurdity of the situation is that "Mechanic Pogodin" brought diesel fuel to refuel the Nazi tanks so that the Bandera men would kill as many Russians as possible. ] [/ quote]
            Do you want to ban everyone from trading with Ukraine? we did not declare a blockade and the fuel does not belong to us.
            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 26 August 2018 13: 26
              +4
              Quote: LSA57
              the owner of the vessel is not a citizen of the Russian Federation. this law is an empty phrase for him

              The laws of the Russian Federation, presidential decrees, etc., are binding on any residents in the Russian Federation (the ship has a Russian flag). And simple foreign tourists too.
              The skakuas are generally insolent. They began to promote the Jesuit idea, they say, on the territory of Russia Russian laws are not laws for them, because they are skakuas. For example, Fedoriv, ​​a Bandera football player from Zhidachiv, who feeds on the Russian FC Nizhny Novgorod, decided to regularly demonstratively show disrespect for the Russian flag and anthem. So the Russophobic newspaper "Soviet Sport", one of the leaders of which Alexey Andronov, known as a supporter of the Maidan and the Bandera-fascist coup, as an enemy of the Russian world, immediately wrote: "The player of" Nizhny ": Fedoriv is a Ukrainian, so why should he to our flag? " - https://www.sovsport.ru/football/articles/1069398-igrok-nizhnego-fedoriv-ukrainec-tak-s-kakogo-ljada-emu-smotret-na-nash-flag Another game of his tonight. Let's see what happens. "Having forgotten the crumbs, praying" will not work. Or as: "In Zhidachiv, there is not a lot of yists, you can't do it for the damned Muscovites"?
              It is necessary to drive the Bandera beast out of Russia with a filthy broom, even if it already bought Russian passports.
              I have close relatives in Ukraine so far. That is why I know that we must quickly stop feeding the junta. Jesuit demagoguery about "brothers" whom Russia is obliged to feed at its own expense, otherwise Ukraine will betray Russia, we hear from the first days of independence. But the truth is that a traitor will always betray him, no matter how you feed him. Demagoguery about everything is cheaper, otherwise it will be bad for the Russians in the east, and at the same time the Galician people will feed themselves, was always the next thought. Bandeva never concealed her attitude to the Russian and Russian-speaking population as hostages. Hostages, genocide, fascism are the basis of Western ideology. It was, and it is. And they will gradually cut out the hostages or starve them out, as they do now.
              The West has banned all its and non-business entities from trading in dual-use goods with Russia. Diesel fuel is a dual-use product. Ukraine is a warring country.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 39
                0
                Quote: Nikolai S.
                The laws of the Russian Federation, presidential decrees, etc., are binding on any residents in the Russian Federation (the ship has a Russian flag).

                I agree. but there’s no law or decree
                I have close relatives living in Ukraine for now
                Well, how will you go to them if we stop the transport connection?
                1. Nicholas C.
                  Nicholas C. 26 August 2018 14: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Well, how will you go to them if we stop the transport connection?

                  You, hike, expect that the junta will be forever. And I think that retribution and fair punishment will come to all of them.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 26 August 2018 15: 10
                    +3
                    Quote: Nikolai S.
                    You, hike, expect that the junta will be forever. And I think that retribution and fair punishment will come to all of them.

                    So think all normal, sane people! Hurry ...
                  2. LSA57
                    LSA57 26 August 2018 15: 14
                    +1
                    Quote: Nikolai S.
                    You, the campaign, expect that the junta will be forever

                    so it’s you, not I suggest blocking the messages.
                    and where did you get that I think the junta will be forever? but even 50 years at least a considerable part of dill will hate us
                    1. Nicholas C.
                      Nicholas C. 26 August 2018 15: 45
                      +2
                      Quote: LSA57
                      you, not I suggest blocking messages

                      Passenger communication between Ukraine and Russia was blocked by the junta - Bandera Minister Omelyan. I propose to block the product message. Commodity trains, road, sea transport. On the same grounds on which the junta blocked the passenger. Stop feeding the junta. The amount of Kremlin support for bandera-fascist Ukraine is tens of billions of dollars. As soon as this support ceases, the junta will collapse. The West will not feed her. About 50 years of hatred - this zombo-formula often sounds from Gus liberal grant-eaters. On the contrary. The longer the junta has been in power, the more people it reprograms for this hatred.
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 26 August 2018 16: 02
                        -2
                        Quote: Nikolai S.
                        Passenger communication between Ukraine and Russia blocked the junta -

                        not blocked
                        I propose to block the product message.

                        built railway branch bypassing urkaini
                        The amount of Kremlin support for bandera-fascist Ukraine is tens of billions of dollars.

                        where does this data come from? discard the reference
                        The West will not feed her.

                        fed and feeds
                        About 50 years of hatred - this zombo-formula h

                        Do you think this generation of fascists can be re-educated?
                        go through their sites. you will understand a lot. they are already taught from the 1st grade to hate Russia
                        getting a little older, learning how to kill Russians
            2. Nashensky city
              Nashensky city 27 August 2018 05: 33
              0
              The operator of the vessel is the VF Tanker company, part of the UCL Holding, which is owned by Vladimir Lisin, still a citizen of the Russian Federation
          3. sogdy
            sogdy 27 August 2018 12: 47
            0
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            LSA57, you troll or what?
            On the basis of what sanctions are imposed against Russia, including the same Ukraine? The law or decree of the President of the Russian Federation, in my opinion, is a sufficient reason,

            In your opinion - it is possible. But it is illegal under the laws of the Russian Federation.
            And what, everyone who prevents you from throwing at the fan is "trolling"?
    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 26 August 2018 09: 47
      +4
      I would like to see this harsh reaction with my own eyes, and then as usual we engage in verbiage.
      1. Dormidont2
        Dormidont2 26 August 2018 12: 12
        -1
        Is it possible to imagine that the Amer tanker was arrested by the Papuans? no
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 29
          -1
          Quote: Dormidont2
          Is it possible to imagine that the Amer tanker was arrested by the Papuans? no

          But didn’t the Somali pirates capture the striped ships?
          1. Nashensky city
            Nashensky city 27 August 2018 05: 37
            0
            Capture and arrest, these are slightly different things.
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 27 August 2018 13: 08
              0
              In this case, it is one and the same. Arrest is made for violation of laws, and the ship did not violate any laws.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 26 August 2018 12: 18
      -1
      Yeah. Surely Klintsevich will quit going to various entertaining talk shows on TV and go to rescue "Mechanics Pogodin" himself? belay
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 August 2018 08: 47
    +6
    According to law enforcement officers, the reason for the detention of the ship was the fact that it the construction was financed by the leasing company VEB-Leasing, which is under Kiev sanctions.
    belay What a tremendous maneuver for retaliation the Ukrainians themselves have discovered. We look forward to genuine Kremlin response.
    1. Neanderthal
      Neanderthal 26 August 2018 08: 58
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      We look forward to genuine Kremlin response.

      Everyone has been waiting for this for a long time Sergey, while there is no time to see .. soldier

      Play Bandera smell genes ..
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 26 August 2018 09: 57
        +2
        M. hi
        Seeing is not the time.
        Well. "Not time" We can finish badly with this "not time"
        1. Neanderthal
          Neanderthal 26 August 2018 10: 03
          0
          Maybe Sergey is too late ..)))) wink
          So we are in Russia .. If only, it’ll resolve itself .. And then the mats for the whole Ivanovo and the losses ...
          Incorrigible we see! soldier But then, prem stupid and evil ahead and no one can stop us, such a mentality is seen. hi
          1. Neanderthal
            Neanderthal 26 August 2018 10: 30
            +2
            Failed to add .. But this is usually the behavior of Russia in the world .. !!! So far, the truth has been beaten by Sergey, but justice is ours. The fate of Russia is to protect the weak! hi

            We wait until we are hit in the face and then already, it all starts, as expected ...
            You can literally explain everything with quotes from films from the times of the USSR .. You knew how to shoot then, how many years have passed, and everything is relevant ..
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 26 August 2018 11: 24
              -1
              Quote: Neanderthal
              Quotes from films from the time of the USSR, you can literally explain everything.

              in fact, these are stills from the movie "Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears" smile
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 26 August 2018 11: 45
                +2
                Sergey, hi is the address of the fight site. wink
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 31
                  -1
                  Quote: sabakina
                  this is the address of the fight

                  not about google request smile
                  Vyacheslav hi
                  1. Neanderthal
                    Neanderthal 26 August 2018 13: 15
                    +2
                    You just have to google .. No memory? laughing
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 26
                      -1
                      Quote: Neanderthal
                      You just have to google .. No memory?

                      Duc film 1979 year. almost 40 years old. what memory is there recourse
                      I don’t remember who I drank with that week laughing
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 26 August 2018 08: 51
    +1
    This problem with the seizure of our ships and our people will continue indefinitely in various forms ... such is the nature of the Bandera government in Kiev and the Kremlin’s attempts to play with them according to civil rules will only lead to even more impudence on their part ... this must be stopped in more severe forms of influence on the Kiev regime ... it is necessary to find pain points and put pressure on them so that the cries of the Maydan can be heard in Washington and the UN.
    It is not known whether these gopniks have enough political will for the Kremlin to use a club between their eyes ... there are too many reasons not to go to an open conflict with the Kremlin ... I think there will again be calls, regrets, persuasions and other tears.
    1. Neanderthal
      Neanderthal 26 August 2018 09: 04
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This problem with the seizure of our ships and our people will continue indefinitely in various forms ..

      Russia has great patience .. After all, the bastards provoke a military conflict. The war with Russia needs blood from the nose for the Kiev junta and their owners. We will go the other way, we will build Nord Stream and turn off the gas ..
      And as Klitschko said, "Get ready for the ground ..!" ...
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 26 August 2018 09: 21
      -3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Does the Kremlin have enough political will to influence the club with these clubs between the gopniks ..

      Will not be enough. The reason is banal to nausea. They have something to lose. No, not the reputation of the state, in my opinion, they put on it. Do all, or almost all Duma thinkers have accounts, real estate, or shares of enterprises located where? That's right, over the hill, in those countries that organized a coup, and fuel hatred of Russia in Ukraine. So things are unlikely to get beyond the on-duty concerns.
    3. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 26 August 2018 09: 46
      +2
      There will be no. Shipowners declared a boycott to all Ukrainian ports after Pogodin.
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      it is necessary to find pain points and put pressure on them so that the screams of the Maidan can be heard in Washington and the United Nations.

      already found in the Sea of ​​Azov
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 26 August 2018 08: 57
    -2
    I wonder what this most notorious "rigidity" will consist in? Will they express especially super-serious nausea? ?? belay In addition to blah, blah, blah no reaction.
    1. 452336
      452336 26 August 2018 09: 04
      +3
      Inspection of ships in the Sea of ​​Azov. Ports of Berdyansk and Mariupol suffer considerable losses
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 26 August 2018 09: 52
        +2
        Quote: 452336
        Ports of Berdyansk and Mariupol suffer considerable losses

        huge. And that's not all. soon no one will go there at all
    2. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 26 August 2018 09: 48
      +2
      For example, a certain number of cornets will be transferred to the corps of the people's republics. Or something else. To answer this does not mean to knock on the platform with a shoe.
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  5. mitchhunter
    mitchhunter 26 August 2018 09: 04
    -3
    Complete insanity. Our only express concern. Concerned ... Stupid
    1. 452336
      452336 26 August 2018 09: 14
      +1
      What do you offer?

      By the way. What Pogodin even went there?
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 26 August 2018 09: 56
        +1
        Quote: 452336
        What Pogodin did go there?

        the shipowner sent Kudla, and went there. there is such a thing as a long-term contract
      2. spektr9
        spektr9 26 August 2018 10: 42
        +1
        What do you offer?
        in which century to take an example from Israel, and not be whipping dolls ...
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 26 August 2018 11: 27
          -1
          Quote: spektr9
          in which century to take an example from Israel,

          rocket urquaine? or fence off the wall?
          1. spektr9
            spektr9 26 August 2018 12: 18
            -1
            rocket urquaine? or fence off the wall?
            Finally, to take in the Russian Federation those regions which have been asking since the age of 14, to set up a base and respond to the aggressor with similar metadas. Shells territories - fire in response. Capturing ships - also capturing (and not arranging checks) ....
            And a really strong state with adequate patronage would have taken such measures long ago.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 47
              -1
              Quote: spektr9
              Finally, take in the Russian Federation those regions that have been asking for since 14,

              and what are they asking for? There are no legal grounds. but otherwise, it will be aggression from the Russian Federation
              also capture (rather than arrange checks) ....

              Well, and how will we differ from them?
              1. spektr9
                spektr9 26 August 2018 13: 11
                +2
                Well, and how will we differ from them?
                By responding symmetrically to aggression
                no legal basis
                It is ridiculous, what kind of foundation do you need, a decision of the Ukrainian court or a call to action by UN members? Kindergarten excuse
            2. LSA57
              LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 20
              +1
              Quote: spektr9
              By responding symmetrically to aggression

              what aggression? detained the ship. according to their own laws. yes, for us is lawlessness, for themselves they have come up with a law.
              It's funny what kind of foundation you need,

              laws and constitution of the Russian Federation !!!!
              it doesn’t say that we should just attach ourselves to whatever we wanted
              kindergarten you bred at the level of Sharikov. that one was, taken away and divided, from you, taken and attached.
              1. spektr9
                spektr9 26 August 2018 13: 34
                -1
                what aggression? detained the ship. according to its own laws
                Tomorrow they will break into the embassy and shoot all the diplomats according to their own laws, is it not aggression either? Or will the Crimean bridge be blown up by adopting a similar law - is it also not aggression? What nonsense is to carry frankly? Capture a ship is piracy and aggression by definition
                laws and constitution of the Russian Federation !!!!
                On which you can take the Crimea, but in no case the Donbass, someone I look very freely interprets it
                kindergarten you bred at the level of Sharikov. that one was, taken away and divided, from you, taken and attached.
                Well, of course, for you it is only adequately visible - to stand on the sidelines and not rock the boat ... I can already imagine how they catch you on the street and start with their feet, and you curled up in a ball and think, "You have to endure, suddenly they will stab you with a knife, but you look to death they will not score .. .. "
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 52
                  0
                  Quote: spektr9
                  Tomorrow they will break into the embassy and shoot all the diplomats according to their own laws, is it not aggression either? Or they will blow up the Crimean bridge by adopting a similar law - it’s also not aggression

                  Is the ship blown up? crew shot? The ship is DETAINED. where is the aggression ????
                  Capture a ship is piracy and aggression by definition

                  Is the ship hijacked? crew on board. access to Urkain persons is closed.
                  By which you can take the Crimea, but in no case Donbass,

                  in the Crimea held a REFERENDUM !!! according to law!!!
                  Well, of course, only adequately visible to you is to stand on the sidelines and not rock the boat

                  for me, adequately soberly assess the situation and not flog a fever.
                  I’ll keep silent about the attack on the street.
                  with such a fantasy, only a journalist in a tabloid newspaper
                  1. spektr9
                    spektr9 26 August 2018 14: 01
                    -1
                    Is the ship blown up? crew shot? The ship is DETAINED. where is the aggression ????
                    Even Captain Nord cannot be taken prisoner, well, where is aggression ??? Let's plant you and see how you start to sing?
                    crew on board. access to Urkain persons is closed.
                    The merit of the Russian Federation, there is no crew to fight and does not let Ukrainians on board, who are trying to capture him
                    in the Crimea held a REFERENDUM !!! according to law!!!
                    And in the Donbass, Putin said, do not rush to join the Russian Federation, do not hold such a referendum, beauty?
                    for me, adequately soberly assess the situation and not flog a fever.
                    The cries and justification of each action by the authorities aimed at refusing to protect their citizens is not an adequate assessment of the situation ... And stupid cheers patriotism, although the word patriotism is clearly superfluous here
                    with such a fantasy, only a journalist in a tabloid newspaper
                    It’s better there than to justify criminal inaction
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              2. Rzzz
                Rzzz 27 August 2018 13: 29
                0
                Quote: LSA57
                detained the ship. according to its own laws

                Not even according to the laws, but according to concepts that are absolutely far-fetched.
                I just don’t understand why the heck. In Ukraine, what, the oil field was discovered? Straight fountain clean clean diesel euro6 from the ground scored? They don’t even think what will happen next? They are now only transported through Georgia or already switch to Arab oil. Or from Europe, one and a half bucks per liter.
            3. Sandor Clegane
              Sandor Clegane 26 August 2018 15: 37
              +1
              Quote: spektr9
              Finally, take in the Russian Federation those regions that have been asking for since 14

              which ones? we asked the Crimea for them back, it even shocked the most pro Russian citizens ..... no one there loves us
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 09: 55
      +2
      Quote: mitchhunter
      Ours only express concern.

      declare war on dill? to send special forces for release?
      Stupid

      offer your own, "sensible". but it smells of blasphemy
      1. spektr9
        spektr9 26 August 2018 10: 58
        -1
        declare war on dill? to send special forces for release?
        But what strength is not enough, or saving the drowning business of the drowning themselves, and the state will wash their hands again?
        And now, it turns out that Ukraine can bombard our border with impunity, as a result of which our civilians are killed (incident of 14 years), calmly detain our ships and not let go of the crew ... At the same time, they say every day that they are conducting a hybrid war with the Russian Federation.
        How long will we endure?
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 26 August 2018 11: 28
          -1
          Quote: spektr9
          But what strength is not enough, or saving the drowning business of the drowning themselves, and the state will wash their hands again?

          you never answered. what do you specifically suggest?
          1. spektr9
            spektr9 26 August 2018 12: 09
            -2
            what do you specifically suggest
            C-w-o-e decision, learn to read by syllables ... If we don’t understand it. Or, once again, we are watching how the country is not able to protect its citizens
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 33
              +1
              Quote: spektr9
              The best solution

              landing ???? or declare war ????
              they expect this from us !!!!! therefore provocation !!!!!
              1. spektr9
                spektr9 26 August 2018 13: 16
                +1
                they expect this from us !!!!! therefore provocation !!!!!
                They are waiting for what would already begin to protect the interests of the country and citizens, rather than saddles in the General Staff shaking from fear with screams, any of our actions will begin the third world !!!!!! (in reality, fearing the arrest of their foreign accounts)
                ps And yes, remember my word, all this by descendants will be regarded only as a betrayal of the homeland and not otherwise
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 32
                  0
                  Quote: spektr9
                  They are waiting for what would already begin to protect the interests of the country and citizens

                  waiting for when we start the war !!!!!! well, how do you not understand !!!! for this and arrange provocations !!!!! they need to pull the Russian Federation into the war !!!! then they will inject nato wax at the request of the parasha. for this they have accumulated them near our borders. are you ready to fight half of Europe ???? the whole project "urcaina is designed for this !!!!
                  And yes, remember my word, all this by descendants will be regarded only as a betrayal of the homeland and not otherwise

                  before the Second World War, Stalin forbade responding to provocations. betrayal?
                  1. spektr9
                    spektr9 26 August 2018 14: 03
                    -1
                    before the Second World War, Stalin forbade responding to provocations. betrayal?
                    And how did it end? Moscow could not recover
                    waiting when we start the war !!!!!
                    Everyone knows perfectly well that our government is not in a position to make such a decision, for the spineless
                    they need to pull the Russian Federation into the war !!!! then they will inject nato wax at the request of the parasha. for this they have accumulated them near our borders. are you ready to fight half of Europe ???? the whole project "urcaina is designed for this !!!!

                    More tales, no one is not ready to start the third world war, no one !!! Similar tales of NATO and stuffs the Russian Federation that would push their interests throughout the CIS
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 26 August 2018 14: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: spektr9
                      And how did it end? Moscow could not recover

                      deftly you turned Stalin into a traitor am
                      Everyone knows perfectly well that our government is not in a position to make such a decision, for the spineless

                      Have you forgotten Syria? and the government has nothing to do with it. the decision on the use of power options is made by the Supreme. consider him spineless?
                      1. spektr9
                        spektr9 26 August 2018 14: 33
                        -1

                        Have you forgotten Syria? and the government has nothing to do with it. the decision on the use of power options is made by the Supreme. consider him spineless?

                        Oh yes, the supreme one certainly protects, but for some reason it’s not the interests of the country, but a Gazprom that would very much not want to see another branch of the gas pipeline from the Middle East passing through Syria ....
                        But as this danger was eliminated, everyone launches US missiles in Damascus, we won’t rock and don’t give a damn that we have an embassy in our city .. And before that we screamed fiercely that if the lives of even one citizen of the Russian Federation would be threatened, we’ll sink the carriers ... Yes what are they even afraid to shoot down missiles
                        deftly you turned Stalin into a traitor
                        Unlike traitors deeply respected by you .. A person once realizing his mistake didn’t make it anymore .. And he didn’t consciously repeat it
                        ps Although why am I telling all this to a person whose function on the forum is to praise power, turning its mistakes into successes ... I wish you to further work out your salary perfectly hi
                    2. LSA57
                      LSA57 26 August 2018 15: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: spektr9
                      Oh yes, the supreme one certainly protects, but for some reason it’s not the interests of the country, but of Gazprom, which would very much not want to see another branch of the gas pipeline from the Middle East passing through Syria ..

                      firstly, Gazprom Russian company. she pays tax to the Russian budget. From this money I get a pension, state employees a salary, an army, weapons and a lot more where this money goes.
                      Secondly. in Syria is our military base.
                      third. barmaley need to beat away from home.
                      there are also third and fourth. long list
                      And before that, we screamed furiously that if the life of at least one citizen of the Russian Federation would be in jeopardy, we’ll sink the carriers ...

                      was she in danger? they didn’t shoot at our objects with axes
                      Unlike traitors deeply respected by you ..

                      keep your fantasies about me. I like all normal people hate traitors
                      whose function on the forum is to praise power,

                      I already have functions belay
                      I wish you to further work out your salary perfectly hi

                      write your card number, I will transfer this salary to you laughing
                      I have enough of my pension tongue
                      1. sogdy
                        sogdy 27 August 2018 13: 27
                        0
                        Quote: LSA57
                        LSA57

                        That's interesting: scumbags pa-life is very sane in communication. Maybe due to experience?
                        Continuing the analogy, the Internet-frostbitten wrestlers with idiots, is it deduction or induction? - Adnaka in life, if they jerked, it’s only in shoble.
  6. Antares
    Antares 26 August 2018 09: 49
    -5
    honestly, the showdown between Ukraine and the Russian Federation has long gone beyond. where at least someone was right. The fact that people have long been the victims of this showdown no longer cares. There are victims, the rest are trying hard to hate others, pumping it every day ...
    I'll try to imagine this
    By the way, the tanker has repeatedly entered the ports of Ukraine. And only this time they suddenly remembered about him. They still do not remember about Prominvestbank (VEB). It means that the disputes of business entities were forced to "remember"
    So the first reason is the disagreements between the "business entities" as usual in the share of money (the fact that the tanker is Russian, the port is Ukrainian, mutual problems and information war - nobody cares, it should be so)
    The second reason (quite possibly just additions) is unofficial. Environmental. Either a drain, or a malfunction of the extinguishing agents. It was she who was found out by the "groups that tried to enter the ship" and which the crew did not let in. Yes, the Russian media hyped that the crew bravely repelled as many as three attempts by the SBU to enter the ship .. but the reality is that these are unofficial groups without documents.
    The version runs as a spare. But in this case, a delay and a fine depending on the consequences, and this still needs to be proved.
    The third ship is owned by the owner under sanctions. And then it began. The Russians woke up and began to prove that I am not me and the company is not the same. Ukrainians are the opposite (according to Reuters) and the remainder is not known when purchased. Maybe already in the course of history. Here you need to dig. But such data is not immediately obtainable.
    The fourth reason is the call at the port of Kerch (2014, designated as Ukraine, although spring, and 2016, is not designated in any way, according to a UN resolution). I note that this is still a backup reason. After all, the tanker plowed the ports of Ukraine freely and suddenly remembered about it.
    There are still reasons, but small ones .. for such a fine it is a shame to assign a fine. So we discard them like noise.
    Conclusion. Formal and semi-official and unofficial reasons have a place.
    But in the first place I will put the first.
    In the meantime, "subjects" are sharing money. Ukraine and the Russian Federation got the honorable role of hating each other.
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 26 August 2018 11: 06
      +5
      Quote: Antares
      I will try to imagine this ... <...> ... Conclusion. Official and semi-official and unofficial reasons take place. But in the first place I'll put the first

      The ship is Russian. Hired by a Canadian (!) Company to transport Austrian (!) Cargo to Ukraine. Permissive documents issued by the Ukrainian side. Question: why? Should the shipowner be sanctioned? There is a provocation of the Ukrainian authorities in response from Russia. All of the other reasons you listed are secondary, or, as you put it, have a backup option to explain the reasons for the detention.
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 August 2018 08: 52
        -1
        Quote: helmi8
        The ship is Russian. Hired by a Canadian (!) Company to transport Austrian (!) Cargo to Ukraine. Permissive documents issued by the Ukrainian side. Question: why?

        the availability of documents does not deny the possibility of arrest. Turkish vessels were also arrested and confiscated for visiting ports of Crimea closed by Ukraine.
        Do not forget that the recently formed "agency for ARC affairs" has taken over some matters that the SBU and others do not care about. And now the Nords and Pogodiny went right away ... Before that, you could even dig sand in the Ukrainian waters ... and no one knew anything.
        Why? Because someone wanted money (a larger share). A ship is just a tool.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 27 August 2018 13: 42
          0
          The ship is just a piece of iron, which bears no responsibility for anything. All these confiscations of the courts are pure arbitrariness on the verge of piracy, to which progressive humanity is politically correct turning a blind eye. According to the law, they could not let water into the territory, not open the border. It turns out that the border service violated the law by letting the sanctioned ship into the water. as a result of this violation, the owner of the vessel and the owner of the cargo suffered.
  7. military pensioner
    military pensioner 26 August 2018 10: 00
    -1
    ... Russia's reaction will be extremely harsh.

    Russia will express the MOST deep concern and perplexity over this incident! negative
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 10: 09
      +1
      Quote: military pensioner
      Russia will express the MOST deep concern and perplexity over this incident!

      Well, you certainly would have landed to free the ship.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 26 August 2018 10: 13
    +3
    How to cover piracy in its purest form? In Ukraine, they simply initiate a criminal case under three articles - treason, abuse of power, violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine.
    The fact that such articles cannot be applied to this vessel does not bother anyone, but I like the EU’s position even more.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 26 August 2018 10: 20
    +2
    Nobody cares that since the launching (2011 year) "Mechanic Pogodin" is on the balance of the shipowner - the company "VF Tanker", not included in the sanction lists,
    says release.
    .... So it turns out ... The shipowner is not under sanctions ... There are no reasons for detention ... In the elderberry garden, in Kiev, uncle ... If we follow the illicit actions of the Ukrainians ... it is enough for Russia to impose sanctions on shipbuilding companies 404 countries, if any, and also delay ... Wedge, kick out with a wedge ...
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 26 August 2018 10: 58
      -1
      He is not a shipowner. The ship is leased. On this, in fact, the whole accusation is based.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 26 August 2018 12: 00
        +4
        You see, if a vessel is on the balance sheet of the company, as indicated in the article, it cannot be leased in any way ... During the construction, there were leasing relations for the leasing period, real estate, and the vessel belongs to the category of immovable objects, it does not you put it on .. Leasing, in principle, is the same lease when you rent property, you don’t put it on the balance sheet ... Unless of course you have concluded a lease agreement with subsequent repurchase .. that is, a leasing agreement ..
        1. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 26 August 2018 12: 01
          0
          That's it) it remains to explain to the gentlemen from the SBU)
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      It is enough for Russia to impose sanctions on the shipbuilding companies of the country 404, if any, and also to delay it.

      this is specificity, not blissfulness
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 August 2018 10: 37
    +3
    Do you still have to handcuff yourself at home? I wonder why all this panopticon is present only in five countries - tribaltics and Ukrainians with Poles? Maybe someone knows the answer?
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 11: 32
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      Maybe someone knows the answer?

      they are the beloved wives of the striped laughing young ... lol
  11. 452336
    452336 26 August 2018 11: 45
    -1
    The Russian Foreign Ministry should publish an official warning about the risks associated with entering the ter. waters and ports of Ukraine. If the crew takes risks for profit, let them take risks at their own risk. And let them bear the costs of lawyers.
    I understand that deep. relations are not broken, but the Azov-Black Sea basin turns into the Gulf of Aden.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: 452336
      The Russian Foreign Ministry should publish an official warning about the risks associated with entering the ter. waters and ports of Ukraine

      so used to come in and come in now.
      If the crew takes risks for profit,

      crew at what? where the shipowner says, the cargo will be taken there.
      And let them bear the costs of lawyers.

      shipowner and carry.
      look at this.
      https://www.marinetraffic.com/ru/ais/home/centerx:32.550/centery:46.598/zoom:14
  12. Rocj
    Rocj 26 August 2018 12: 56
    +1
    It’s interesting and what can a secret simple one know, Mechanic Pogodin ???
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Rocj
      It’s interesting and what can a secret simple one know, Mechanic Pogodin ???

      need a pretext to lure from the ship and arrest the crew. while the crew is on board, the Ukrops cannot do anything with them
  13. demo
    demo 26 August 2018 13: 05
    +3
    Not too lazy and read to the end all the comments.
    And an interesting picture looms.
    More precisely conclusions.
    1. Ukraine must be punished. And punished so that it is not bad.
    2. There is no way to punish.
    Causes?
    Obvious.
    It is necessary to punish ordinary Ukrainians, who in the future will sweep away power.
    Those. absolutely do what the Americans are doing in relation to Russia.
    Does it help? Not really.
    So how to be?
    I see such a solution to the situation.
    It is necessary to name, and as loudly as possible, the names of those people or companies (and accordingly their owners) who continue to conduct financial and business relations with Ukrainian companies.
    And if it turns out that the company "X" has supplied spare parts for KAMAZ vehicles to Ukraine, then we can safely say that these vehicles can be used in the zone of lawlessness - LPNR.
    And they can be committed crimes by supporters of the Right Sector or similar organizations prohibited in the Russian Federation. And this is already a serious article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - aiding. I did not know, but involuntarily helped - one term, but I knew and helped - three times as much.
    Here it is necessary to begin.
    To cars stopped. That fuel was not supplied. So that food and ammunition are not driven through Belarus. And point with your finger. Those. TIN - such and such, Yur. Address - such and such, Owner -F.I.O. And a statement to Bastrykin. Let them decide.
    And then we have a righteous anger - over the edge, but how to think and do - then fantasies on the topic - and not whether to give us an "edren loaf" across Ukraine.
    Something like this.
    Yes, and more.
    Not all deputies abroad have accounts. And not all conscience was sold for the "greens".
    The same Poklonskaya. She would find this proposal interesting.
    The main thing is that our fat cats understand - they are under the gun of their citizens.
    And now your opinion.
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 26 August 2018 13: 22
      +1
      Like a porter, but by organization?) So that they would all spread rot, would they close and people would be on the street?) And I advise you not to initialize Poklonskaya) then you will be very disappointed)
      1. demo
        demo 26 August 2018 13: 52
        +2
        You can even call it a "pot", but there should be a result?
        And people on the street are not the worst option. Much worse - people from "Nord" in Mariupol or in the Consulate. With the inability to go anywhere. Our Government does not charge them salary?
        Because they are sitting there.
        I can’t say anything bad about Poklonskaya.
        So for us it will be a litmus test for her attitude to such a proposal.
        I'm right?
        At the same time I decided for myself - it’s better to be disappointed sooner rather than later. good
  14. Altona
    Altona 26 August 2018 13: 34
    0
    Our country has a very strange foreign policy, or rather, this policy has failed in all directions. We can "interfere in the American and European elections," but we cannot go to the Olympics with our flag. We can crush the militants in Syria, but we can’t even do a bit of combing the presumptuous Ukraine. It is useless to discuss these slaps in the face until Russia takes harsh military measures. The pitiful bleating of our Foreign Ministry no longer convinces.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 26 August 2018 13: 56
      0
      Quote: Altona
      The miserable bleating of our Foreign Ministry no longer convinces.

      Foreign Ministry is not MO. It has no troops. diplomats can only talk. it's their job
      can't even call fist fights
    2. demo
      demo 26 August 2018 14: 02
      0
      This is called asymmetric responses.
      They wait in one place, but get in another.
      In terms of assessing our behavior - above all praise.
      There is practically nothing we can do to oppose the "collective west".
      Therefore, we take revenge in another.
      But it can’t go on forever.
      It's like boxing, where one heavyweight with punches under a ton and a super lightweight boxer.
      Until that moment, until we are driven into a corner, we will beat. But in the corner we will be oh how not easy.
    3. 452336
      452336 26 August 2018 15: 03
      0
      So comb your hair. Ukraine in the Sea of ​​Azov incurs losses. What does not legally dig into Russia. How else? Embed in gauges?
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 26 August 2018 15: 36
        0
        Quote: 452336
        How else? Embed in gauges?

        It seems there are not a few who want to do this. I wanted to fight. only if responsibility is necessary, no one will take himself?
  15. 22 dmdc
    22 dmdc 26 August 2018 16: 18
    0
    Yes, do not be afraid You are so gentlemen forum users! What do we care about this trough? The head should hurt those who are not friends with her. Here the summer ends and nothing can be done.
  16. 22 dmdc
    22 dmdc 26 August 2018 16: 24
    +1
    Quote: Not bad
    Americans will not be allowed to return the ship

    Where are you on this trough guns, rockets, etc. did you see?
  17. Conductor
    Conductor 26 August 2018 16: 58
    0
    Yes, we know such extremely harsh reactions)))) Fart in a puddle and a mustache.
  18. LeonidL
    LeonidL 26 August 2018 17: 07
    -1
    They don’t talk to pirates! the pirates are hanged on the yards, and the captured ships are freed.
  19. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 26 August 2018 18: 17
    0
    they will pull the cat for faberge until Russia responds to the provocation - and scream about the violation of all international rights!