As in 41. NI criticized the state of the German Navy

The American edition of The National Interest lashed out at the German Ministry of Defense. The reason for this was the state of the German Navy, called "shame" for "one of the richest countries."

The publication claims that the lack of funding and poor planning brought the German fleet to a state of impossibility to fulfill its main tasks. At the same time, absolutely all components of the German Navy are in poor condition: from submarines to the naval aviation.

German underwater fleetAccording to the authors of the publication, there are six submarines of type 212U inoperative. At the same time, Germany is in no hurry to repair submarines, being excluded by the lack of spare parts for them, but at the same time producing and selling exactly the same boats around the world.

Exactly the same condition with the German naval aviation. Back in 2005, the command dismissed the Breguet Atlantique patrol aircraft, acquiring the used Р-3С of the Netherlands Air Force, but none of these aircraft is in operational status. The Bundeswehr has no funds for their maintenance.

The state of the German surface fleet is slightly better, but there are many problems there too: frequent breakdowns and unsatisfactory characteristics of warships. German warships are lagging behind modern NATO standards, experts say.

In conclusion, the authors of the article came to the conclusion that the modern German fleet found itself in a situation similar to the spring of 1941, when the Hitlerite Kriegsmarine confronted the sea "with the allies' latest weapons" and could not successfully resist it.

Earlier, German media reported that, according to a report by the Federal Court of Auditors of Germany, Minister of Defense Ursula von der Lyayen was accused of concealing faults in military equipment and "embellishing statistics."

Comments

[Observer2014]

NI criticized the state of the German Navy

Why are they hanging on to the Germans ?! The Germans are doing everything right. Social in their country, be healthy, but we, for example, still stomp and stomp up to their level. Why would they have a healthy fleet? To fight the Russians? So ours will slap if that heels "Yars" And there is no that Germany. The Germans understand this perfectly.

[Neanderthal]

Quote: Observer2014

What are they attached to the Germans ?!

The Germans fought well in Russia (the only ones ..)))))

Quote: Observer2014

Social in the country they should be healthy, but for example, we still stomp and stomp to their level.

"Refugees" are fed to crooks and crooks who were driven out by the US bombing on the BV and others ..

Quote: Observer2014

Why would they have a healthy fleet? To fight the Russians? So ours will slap if that heels "Yars" And there is no that Germany. The Germans understand this perfectly.

The Germans understand that the United States and others are again setting Sergei on them!
Somewhere that "aspen's nest of the world" sits and plays off the peoples .. They again need profit and blood!
I sense genes and many Russians too .. We are not allowed to live peacefully and peacefully in Russia! Again push "We are ours, we will build a new world ..!" PADLES!

[Aaron Zawi]

Well, nothing new. The German fleet today is completely unworkable. The maximum that he can do is a flag demonstration and anti-piracy actions. As a military force, it can be ignored altogether.

[Neanderthal]

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Well, nothing new. The German fleet today is completely unworkable. The maximum that he can do is a flag demonstration and anti-piracy actions. As a military force, it can be ignored altogether.

Germany is forbidden to develop all this .. Although I remember after the First World War the Germans were generally driven into terrible counterattacks .. Then Hitler appeared)))
After the Second World War again on the counterattacks .. THIS is our cash cow? Did I understand Aron correctly?

[APASUS]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Well, nothing new. The German fleet today is completely unworkable. The maximum that he can do is a flag demonstration and anti-piracy actions. As a military force, it can be ignored altogether.

And who really threatens Germany with war, do not tell me?
This is only in the American edition of The National Interest that can believe the example that the United States can really do something with the Chinese Navy, and this does not go beyond provocations.

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believe eg that

I will ask my call sign to continue to write together!

[APASUS]

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believe eg that

I will ask my call sign to continue to write together!

So maybe you defend this position? Dear polyglot, or are you always in the bushes?

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Dear polyglot, or are you always in the bushes?

When he presses, but the toilet is not nearby, I repent - in the bushes.

And what position should I defend? Yours? So you do it yourself.

ps I am not a polyglot. I only understand Russian, but German trochi.

[igorka357]

The US Navy, will roll out the PLA Navy, the Russian Navy, and the Navy of India, taken together to pieces, with their own Burki, of which they already have 68 + 3 new modifications being built!

[Machete]

The Germans, at least, do not behave like brainless monkeys.
No fleet and okay. They especially do not need him. With whom to fight?
But tupar, such as the Baltic states, spend the last money, figuratively, on three tanks, seven turntables, which will never solve anything.

[K-50]

Maybe the Germans do not need fleets at all. All that is needed is the coast guard and patrol forces. with whom to fight? With Russia? So only the insane will believe this, and the rest (China, North Korea, Iran) are farther away, and again, only an inveterate saxophile can believe in a war.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This is similar to the way the US presses on Merkel through the public, and the public through controlled media ...

The German fleet is a little more needed than a dog’s fifth leg. So if only there was something for decency. Germany now has no external military threats ...
But the United States needs the NATO allies to have as much weapons as possible, they want to provoke a new war against Russia and they need the allies to be armed to the teeth today, so that tomorrow they can push Russia more actively ...

The USA is preparing another intervention for Russia. Moreover, even viceroys for Russia are being prepared from local collaborators - Khodorkovsky, Sobchak, Navalny, Kasparov, Kasyanov and other devils who are hiding behind the ideas of liberalism, which have defamed this concept in Russia ...

But nothing, the enemy will be defeated again, Victory will be ours ... But to die of old age, I didn’t plan anything good about it ...

[gabonskijfront]

The German is generally degenerating, he is no longer a slender blond with blue eyes. A stream of Teutons, but a hungry general man. He shares his Vaterland with Turks and Arabs.

[A good one]

This is exactly, especially with regards to the girls who are strong in that and I will go. Soon it will be like a French batch, as well as mosques, mosques and mosques.

[ANCIENT]

There is common sense here, but you can understand the Germans as well — the problem of wagons, there isn’t enough budget for everything, especially when the army is commanded by a dash who is not a person who is versed in defense and military industry! !!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

the modern German navy found itself in a situation similar to that in the spring of 1941, when Hitler's Kriegsmarines encountered at sea "the latest weapons of the allies" and could not successfully resist it.

Hmmm ... Actually, in May 1941, it was the British in their already 20-year-old, but never seriously modernized "Hood" collided with the newest "Bismarck" and flew into the air a little.

[alexsipin]

You do not look at the state of the army and navy - you look at the level of economics and engineering. Germany in its development is the most advanced country in Europe and one of the most advanced countries in the world; in fact, it is one of the superpowers. There is an excellent school of tank building, shipbuilding, a school of small arms, electronics, a school for training personnel, etc. If necessary, with little effort, Germany will become the owner of one of the strongest armies in the world in 3-4 years.

[nathanael]

Maybe ... That's just who will give her .. Yes, and whether she wants to ..

[iouris]

What is the meaning of the mention of the 41st? Germany united due to the USSR, Russia. Germany probably does not feel a threat from NATO allies either.

[minx]

Who is criticizing there? And ... NI ... What does NATO want as a percentage of GDP and where will the loot settle?
And if these percentages go to the German manufacturer? Nee NI, are you getting dark, or do you want to trample again in a strange garden? Why Germany needs a large Navy, Somalia to board or take the Antagon? For the latter, the fleet is not needed, there will be enough women of Klava, all the railings should be added to the newcomer

[Samara_63]

So it’s better for us!

[cosmos-PS]

With such a minister of defense, this can’t be. Why would a woman of the Navy and the army in general. A maximum of kindergarten armed divorced, and one with a gay touch.

[arhPavel]

Germany used to need a fleet to defend the colonies and the war with England
Now, in fact, Germany itself is a colony, (on its territory there are troops of a foreign state, which it, Germany, contains. And these troops are not even subject to German courts.
The country's gold fund is also located in another state)
England is her ally.
Germany has no colonies.
Why should the Germans maintain a fleet? What purpose?
But this persecution goes for Nord Stream-2

[Altona]

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Well, nothing new. The German fleet today is completely unworkable. The maximum that he can do is a flag demonstration and anti-piracy actions. As a military force, it can be ignored altogether.

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By the way. Do not want revenge? For 1933-1945.

[Altona]

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Why should the Germans maintain a fleet? What purpose?

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And the spirit of Bismarck?

[2329 Carpenter]

In the spring of the 41st with the latest weapons of the allies?
Who were the allies there that springtime?
Really, the British Empire fought on a massive scale. Is it possible to call its colonies and dominions without regard, allies: Kenya, The Gambia, Belize, and other Australia, Canada, India and New Zealand? Although in some places the British queen / king is still considered the nominal head of the country, at that time the metropolis poured sovereignty over the dominions into small doses, and most likely they were not allies, but vassals. And did not mind fighting a little for the glory of the king.
It was like that - France. Together they fought, shoulder to shoulder ... But the French shoulder weakened, softened. The rifle never once rested on it. Cafe, bistro, chanson, cancan, wine, liquor, la fam ... And foie gras. Life is good! Why fight? What is the homeland on xx, what an honor?
So by spring 41, continental France and its inhabitants warmly, passionately, and by all means appeased their harsh conquerors.
States The states at that time were only an economic ally, but even that bread. Yes, a good loaf of something: ships, planes, motors, rifle, grub, gear and many others. many others + British factory orders. All for the money, but still - we are with you in the same blood: you and I! And so - wait. Yamamota and I will come up with Pearl Harbor, and I'm right there.
THE USSR. The whole continent. He was also an economic ally. But not English. Not very then they are dr. were needed. That highlighted the negotiations of August-39. And Munich-38 did not decorate Britain. So we knew the price. Therefore, they began to drag with the Germans ... to make friends, but to the best of their ability to trade. We give them food, they give us a tank press; we give them oil, they give us airplanes. Learn, friends, modern technology!
In-oh ... So among the belligerent allies, the British get only pancake Greeks. But then three hundred Spartans could no longer and did not want to help Hellas out. Moreover, instead of Persians, there were not Persians at all ... "Well ... We are too ancient," the Greeks said to the British. and the Acropolis.
So where are the allies here?
New weapons in the spring of 41. "What was that, Watson?" - asked Sherlock Holmes, overtaking a low-flying biplane by car. "This is our new torpedo bomber!" Watson replied proudly - Suordfish, that means - a swordfish! The Faerie company ... "
Well, yes, Swordfish deprived Bismarck of maneuverability and defeated Taranto, but they can’t be called a new weapon.
Carriers were new weapons, yes - if they were recently built, and with Sea Hurricanes on board. But the Germans dealt with Illustries without problems, only by dive-bombers, as the Japanese later with Hermes with the difference that Hermes was drowned, and Illustries barely dragged into Alexandria ...
So what about the allies and new weapons, I would not rush to the spring of the forty-first ...

[san4es]

Back in 2005, the command wrote off the Breguet Atlantique patrol aircraft ...

... by acquiring used Netherlands Air Force R-3C

[nathanael]

Here's a bastard .. They lie and do not blush .. yes in the 41st fleet of Germany, the allies tailed their tail and mane

[voyaka uh]

Not really ... There were separate victories, but, in general, the Germans in 40-41 lost the British at sea war. The German surface fleet was locked in the North Sea, and those ships that broke into the Atlantic were destroyed. German submarines managed to sink commercial and civil vessels, but they always had to flee from the military.

[rotfuks]

The Germans simply have no time to modernize and strengthen their fleet and the Bundeswehr. All their forces and means are spent on improving the IDF. If anyone does not know, all Merkavas of the last generation run with German engines and MTU transmission, Israeli patrol boats are equipped with the same engines. Israel does not have its own engine building. All motors Israelis pull from Germany.

[Dikson]

Hans has a great engine school ...

[alexsipin]

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The Germans simply have no time to modernize and strengthen their fleet and the Bundeswehr. All their forces and means are spent on improving the IDF. If anyone does not know, all Merkavas of the last generation run with German engines and MTU transmission, Israeli patrol boats are equipped with the same engines. Israel does not have its own engine building. All motors Israelis pull from Germany.

This is a masterpiece - Jews are to blame for the collapse of the German army. Again the 33rd year loomed, only then the Jews were accused of losing the war in the 18th year.

[voyaka uh]

Thanks to Israeli orders, German shipyards were not closed at all. Israel once again supports German shipbuilding at the modern level, giving complex tasks - special, non-standard projects of corvettes and submarines.
South Koreans are now building warships faster and better than Germans. And they are offended that Israel does not order from them.
But Israel and Germany have win-win: Israel gets a big discount, and the German government saves the salaries of workers and engineers from closing shipyards.