The dollar is out! The FSMTC told about the transition to the calculations in national currency

The first claimants for settlements in national currencies for defense transactions are China, India and Turkey, reports Interfax-AVN a message from the head of the Federal Service for Military Technical Cooperation, Dmitry Shugaev.

According to him, Russia has a large trade turnover with these countries. And the more solid the turnover, the easier it is to switch to settlements in national currencies.

Shugaev noted that today, because of the American sanctions, an obvious fact emerged: it is almost impossible to work with dollars in the MTC field - the banking system does not let these payments through, freezes, blocks and the like.

This situation cannot continue. Russia and its trading partners are looking for new ways and find them in the transition to calculations in national currencies, he added.

The head of the Federal Service recalled that the CSTO member countries within the organization have long been working in rubles. “Under internal agreements on military-technical cooperation, settlements can only be made in rubles,” and they have been doing so since day one, Shugayev said.

Earlier, the head of Rosoboronexport, Alexander Mikheev, reported that Moscow is looking for an alternative to the dollar. According to him, the possibility of using Chinese yuan, Indian rupees, dirhams and rubles for payments under military contracts is being considered.

Comments

[Starover_Z]

Again "garbage" on the VO! This is the moderators skip!

The Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation talked about the transition to settlements in national currency

And right here in the article:

the possibility of using Chinese yuan, Indian rupees, dirhams, and rubles for military contracts is being considered.

An article in the spirit of the topics of the section "Economics" - Here it will be, here they will do it ... here ..
Predictions of pensioners at the entrance!

[Svarog]

It would be so simple to switch to settlements in the national currency, we would have switched over long ago .. the article is not about anything ..

[SSR]

Quote: Svarog

It would be so simple to switch to settlements in the national currency, we would have switched over long ago .. the article is not about anything ..

AlRosa has already conducted the first transactions in national currencies with India and China.
The "cart" is moving.

[Tatyana]

Today, due to American sanctions, an obvious fact has appeared: it is almost impossible to work with dollars in the military-technical cooperation sector - the banking system does not miss these payments, freezes, blocks and the like.

There is interesting information about this. Namely.

According to 16.01.2016 data, the Rothschilds recognized their influence on the 174 bank, despite the fact that UN member states are 193. The Rothschilds are rumored to have unlimited influence in all but five of these 174 countries. But since banks, which the Rothschilds do not own, were included in the list, this means that the Rothschilds have some other leverage over them. Who is not on the list!
Until recently - at 1916 year - there were only 5 independent State Banks in the world, and, consequently, UN member countries: Belarus, Venezuela, Vietnam, Cuba and Syria. Regarding Iran and North Korea, there is no exact data, and the status of unrecognized territories is not taken into account.
Nevertheless, the list showed: 14. National Bank of the Republic of Belarus: 170. Central Bank of Venezuela; 171. GB of Vietnam; 41. Central Bank of Cuba.

I searched the list of "Rothschild banks" of the Central Bank of Russia and other Russian banks, but so far - as of 16.01.2016 - I have not found them on the list.

Here is a list of these banks *:

* Legend:
Central Bank - Central Bank
RB - Reserve Bank
NB - National Bank
GB - State Bank
TsRB - Central Reserve Bank
NRB –National Reserve Bank
VFU - monetary and financial department
Fed - Federal Reserve System

1. Bank of Afghanistan; 2. Bank of Albania; 3. Bank of Algeria; 4. Central Bank of Argentina; 5. Central Bank of Armenia; 6. Central Bank of Aruba; 7. RB Australia; 8. National Bank of Austria; 9. Central Bank of the Azerbaijan Republic; 10. Central Bank of the Bahamas; 11. Central Bank of Bahrain; 12. Bank of Bangladesh; 13. Central Bank of Barbados; 14. NB of the Republic of Belarus; 15. National Bank of Belgium; 16. Central Bank of Belize; 17. Benin: Central Bank of West African States; 18. Bermuda: Bermuda Monetary Authority; 19. Royal HFU of Bhutan; 20. Central Bank of Bolivia; 21. Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina; 22. Bank of Botswana; 23. Central Bank of Brazil; 24. Bulgaria: Bulgarian NB; 25. Burkina Faso: Central Bank of West African States; 26. Bank of the Republic of Burundi; 27. National Bank of Cambodia; 28. Roon came: Bank of Central African States; 29. Bank of Canada-Banque du Canada; 30. EFU Cayman Islands; 31. Central African Republic: Bank of Central African States; 32. Chad: Bank of Central African States; 33. Central Bank of Chile; 34. People's Bank of China; 35. Colombia: Bank of the Republic; 36. Central Bank of the Comoros; 37. Congo: Bank of Central African States; 38. Central Bank of Costa Rica; 39. Côte d'Ivoire: Central Bank of West African States; 40. Croatian NB; 41. Central Bank of Cuba; 42. Central Bank of Cyprus; 43. Czech Republic: Czech NB; 44. National Bank of Denmark; 45. Central Bank of the Dominican Republic; 46. ​​East Caribbean Region: East Caribbean Central Bank; 47. Central Bank of Ecuador; 48. Central Bank of Egypt; 49. Central District Hospital of El Salvador; 50. Equatorial Guinea: Bank of Central African States; 51. Bank of Estonia; 52. National Bank of Ethiopia; 53. European Union: European Central Bank; 54. RB Fiji; 55. Bank of Finland; 56. Bank of France; 57. Gabon: Bank of Central African States; 58. Central Bank of Gambia; 59. NB of Georgia; 60. Germany: Deutsche Bundesbank; 61. Bank of Ghana; 62. Bank of Greece; 63. Bank of Guatemala; 64. Guinea-Bissau: Central Bank of West African States; 65. Bank of Guyana; 66. Central Bank of Haiti; 67. Central Bank of Honduras; 68.FU Hong Kong; 69. Hungary: Magyar Bank Nemzeti; 70. Central Bank of Iceland; 71. RB India; 72. Bank of Indonesia; 73. Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran; 74. Central Bank of Iraq; 75. Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland; 76. Bank of Israel; 77. Bank of Italy;
78. Bank of Jamaica; 79. Bank of Japan 90. Central Bank of Jordan; 91. National Bank of Kazakhstan; 92. Central Bank of Kenya; 93. Bank of Korea 94. Central Bank of Kuwait; 95. National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic; 96. Bank of Latvia 97. Central Bank of Lebanon; 98. Central Bank of Lesotho; 99. Central Bank of Libya; 100. Central Bank of Uruguay; 101. Bank of Lithuania; 102. Central Bank of Luxembourg; 103. WFU Macau; 104. National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia; 105. Central Bank of Madagascar; 106. RB Malawi; 107. Central Bank of Malaysia; 108. Mali: Central Bank of West African States; 109. Central Bank of Malta; 110. Bank of Mauritius; 111. Bank of Mexico 112. National Bank of Moldova; 113. Bank of Mongolia; 114. Central Bank of Montenegro; 115. Bank of Morocco; 116. Bank of Mozambique 117. Bank of Namibia; 118. Central Bank of Nepal; 119. Bank of the Netherlands; 120. Bank of the Netherlands Antilles; 121. RB of New Zealand; 122. Central Bank of Nicaragua; 123. Niger: Central Bank of West African States; 124. Central Bank of Nigeria; 125. Central Bank of Norway; 126. Central Bank of Oman; 127. GB of Pakistan; 128. Bank of Papua New Guinea; 129. Central Bank of Paraguay; 130. CRH Peru; 131. Philip Pines: Philippines; 132. National Bank of Poland; 133. Bank of Portugal 134. Central Bank of Qatar; 135. National Bank of Romania; 136. National Bank of Rwanda; 137. Central Bank of the Republic of San Marino; 138. Central Bank of Samoa; 139. Monetary Agency of Saudi Arabia; 140. Central Bank of West African States; 141. National Bank of Serbia; 142. Central Bank of Seychelles;
143. Bank of Sierra Leone; 144. EFU of Singapore; 145. National Bank of Slovakia; 146. Bank of Slovenia; 147. Central Bank of the Solomon Islands; 148. RB of South Africa; 149. Bank of Spain 150. Central Bank of Sri Lanka; 151. Bank of Sudan 152. Central Bank of Suriname; 153. Central Bank of Swaziland; 154. Sweden: Sveriges Riksbank; 155. Swiss NB; 156. National Bank of Tajikistan; 157. Bank of Tanzania; 158. Bank of Thailand 159. Togo: Central Bank of West African States; 160. NRB Tonga; 161. Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago; 162. Central Bank of Tunisia; 163. Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey; 164. Bank of Uganda; 165. National Bank of Ukraine; 166. Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates; 167. United Kingdom: Bank of England; 168. US Federal Reserve, Federal RB New York;
169. RB Vanuatu; 170. Central Bank of Venezuela; 171. GB of Vietnam; 172. Central Bank of Yemen; 173. Bank of Zambia; 174. RB Zimbabwe.
See detail - https://narod-novosti.com/diskussionnyj-klub/?p=rotshild-vyistroil-finansovyie-vojska

[nadezhiva]

Quote: Svarog

It would be so simple to switch to settlements in the national currency, long ago we would have switched.. the article is not about anything ..

Sobbing again?

Moscow, August 22 - AiF-Moscow.
Russia conducted the first in the history of transactions in the MTC market with settlements in national currencies, Interfax reports with reference to the general director of Rosoboronexport Alexander Mikheev.
It is noted that Mikheev, answering the question, did not specify the partners, the number of transactions, as well as the currency used.

Any climb to the top begins with the first step. This step has been taken here.

[maxim947]

Again "garbage" on the VO! This is the moderators skip!

They all said normally. Yuan is the national currency of China, rupee is India, etc. So they want to switch to settlements in national currencies. Those. in the currencies of those countries that are parties to the contract, and in which they will be negotiated.

[jjj]

If you look at how the events of recent years are developing, you can see that there is a gradual movement towards the exit of a number of countries from the dollar financial system. And for this, the initiatives of the USA themselves are used. In fact, Russia is one step away from the ruble becoming sovereign and not dependent on the number of dollars received in the country

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: jjj

there is a gradual movement towards the exit of a number of countries from the dollar financial system. And for this, the initiatives of the USA themselves are used

I am not an economist, but I read an interesting article just recently about the fact that the dollar has become a risky currency for settlements, and it is precisely thanks to US policy.

[Awaz]

you heard the statement of stupid Russian officials. In addition to chatting, they still do not understand anything. So do not pay attention to it.
However, for Russia, the dollar has always been a risky currency, even during the Soviet era. Among other things, the very USSR created the eurodollar, which supposedly allowed the USSR to get rid of the US dollar in settlements with Europe, but which in the end allowed the Americans to take over the entire financial market of the world.
Now roll back is no longer possible. That is, too much needs to be destroyed for this. Nobody will do it. If only when finally the USA will split, but it is not soon obvious.
However, all the same, all the problems of the Russian authorities are that they do not want to do anything. Going with the flow, they drag us into this swamp ...

[Genry]

Quote: AwaZ

the very USSR created Eurodollar, which supposedly allowed the USSR to get rid of the US dollar

At what year ?
Who emitted them?
Or wasn’t that?

[Awaz]

and you read the history of the English banking system after the Second World War. It was not some new currency, it was a mechanism for trading dollars without participation (or at least without US control) The British came up with the theme, but it was participation in this scheme of the USSR that made it possible to spread it everywhere. And it still works. The so-called offshore - this is the very mechanism

[Awaz]

although they say it all started back with a bank created by Russian emigrants and then overbought with advice. And already after the third world war, when the British bankers had problems, they all together began to trade in dollars without the participation of the United States.

[maxim947]

Awaz
You write about dumb officials who said that the dollar has become a risky currency. And at the same time they summarize exactly that ...

However, for Russia, the dollar has always been a risky currency

Thus, if an official declares this - he is stupid, but if you yourself, then this is some kind of revelation?))) How do you understand?
And your conclusions are dubious to say the least.
Well, the conclusions are always the same, and it doesn’t matter that you are incompetent in these matters, the main government is bad ...

[Awaz]

I don’t have at hand any evidence of my version. Yes, and I came across this story by accident and did not go deep. However, it is unambiguously obvious that statements of this kind are very stupid for government officials, because for ordinary customers, using the dollar is not dangerous. Problems arise for those who do not want to jump to the tune of Americans. However, the authorities of the Russian Federation seem to have been working according to their own scheme for a long time and should have long understood that for this they will soon begin to receive problems. But they did nothing, from the word at all. And suddenly they jumped up ... and spoke, although without the same specifics. Purely to the public ...

[sogdy]

Quote: AwaZ

I don’t have at hand any evidence of my version. Yes, and I came across this story by accident and did not go deep.

Sorry, I do not know how to contact you, because "Valeri" is a woman's name.
Everything goes back to the League of Nations, to 1942, when the USA imposed the standard of international settlements - the "golden dollar". Only the gold dollar went out of circulation in 1961, de facto replaced by US government bonds. Reagan pushed through the increasing dependence of banks on the paper dollar and the spontaneous generation of the electronic dollar. Actually, this is the "dependence" that exists now.
The blocking of long-term trading contracts caused by sanctions (in fact, what our Government is so happy about) has stopped the need to support further settlements in dollars - for almost 40 years now, gold dollars have not existed!

By the way, "settlement in national currencies" is calculated for groups of goods and services in the contracting countries. This has been happening at the state level for more than 5 years. Currency as such does not participate in such calculations. Now a banking service is being formed (including guarantees! For banks) for small (smaller than the state) merchants.

[Zubr]

I am also not an economist, but I turned literature over enough to understand the predatory inclinations of the Fed. Not only do we pay for transactions in the international banking system in dollars, we pay in the international market in dollars, sell for dollars, are forced to buy a dollar for mutual settlements. Even Europe uses the dollar in its calculations. Thus, we strengthen it and we ourselves allow ourselves to rob and depreciate our national currencies. Now Europe has included anti-sanctions against Iran. And they also began to study the issues of settlements in national currencies. I do not know when the conditions will be created for conducting transactions in national currencies, but I am sure at 100% that Sberbank will be the first. The first line of two data centers is already in operation. But I really like this trend.

[bouncyhunter]

My regards

Quote: Zubr

I really like this trend.

I agree and am sure that many people like this, except for adherents of green candy wrappers, essessa.

[rocket757]

Harnessed for a long time. However. they’ve started before, before they got sanctions.
It’s such a financial world, it’s not safe, but in fact it’s very wild!
Also, the politician intervened, so everything is natural!

[Krasnodar]

Alexander Mikheev reported that Moscow is looking for an alternative for the dollar. According to him, the possibility of using Chinese yuan, Indian rupees, dirhams, and rubles for military contracts is being considered.

The most interesting thing is that the exchange rate between these currencies will be set on the dollar.

[ltc35]

Unfortunately, so far. But since they’ve started talking about this, they will be able to reach real mechanisms.

[sogdy]

Quote: ltc35

Unfortunately, so far. But since they’ve started talking about this, they will be able to reach real mechanisms.

Unfortunately, no longer. The mechanism worked out from the first years of Soviet power. These are the very intergovernmental agreements establishing the volume of exchange of goods and services for goods and services.

[jjj]

The course can be set as you like. But the dollar itself will be physically absent in the chain

[askort154]

Krasnodar ... The most interesting thing is that the exchange rate between these currencies will be set on the dollar.

And even more interesting is the trend of an increase in the number of countries wishing to get rid of the hegemony of the dollar and futures papers. The first step of the long journey has been taken. (Russia, China, India, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, the Philippines and even Japan)

[SOF]

Quote: Krasnodar

The most interesting thing is that the exchange rate between these currencies will be set on the dollar.

.... yes, yes .... of course on it .... on green ...... yet, in the world, idiots - one YOU "genius" .......

[sogdy]

Quote: Krasnodar

then the exchange rate between these currencies will be set in dollars.

No, for the shopping basket. Forfeits - for gold. Russia (as well as China and India) do not care about the papers. Goods to goods.

[Dormidont]

He said: "Let's go !!!"

[Krasnodar]

Hutspa

[bratchanin3]

I am still wondering how the 80 years of the USSR did without American dollars.

[cariperpaint]

It didn’t. In your abroad everything was bought for rubles?

[jjj]

There were also ecu

[Awaz]

At the same time, the USSR had problems with payments in US dollars. The USA started to block something somewhere. Then the USSR created the so-called Eurodollars, through which they paid with Europe and some other Western countries. But in the end, it finally put the whole world on bucks.

[Genry]

Quote: AwaZ

Then the USSR created the so-called Eurodollars, through which they paid with Europe and some other Western countries.

Actually, the USSR was calculated clearing ruble !!!
He had gold security.

[Awaz]

read the history of the English banking system after the 2nd world

[sogdy]

Quote: AwaZ

read the history of the English banking system after the 2nd world

Nothing that in the banking system there is far from only English?
By the way, the Rothschilds and the Morgan are immigrants from German lands. The English bank is represented by the Dupons, who are now being digested.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: sogdy

Quote: AwaZ

read the history of the English banking system after the 2nd world

Nothing that in the banking system there is far from only English?
By the way, the Rothschilds and the Morgan are immigrants from German lands. The English bank is represented by the Dupons, who are now being digested.

The financial center of the Rothschilds before WWII was in London. And the fact that the Rothschilds are from Frankfurt am Main (Morgan, by the way, from London, was born in the family of a banker), does not mean that from the beginning of the 20th century their financial activities were directly related to Germany. Already more to Austria, and even that is far from the main

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Genry

Quote: AwaZ

Then the USSR created the so-called Eurodollars, through which they paid with Europe and some other Western countries.

Actually, the USSR was calculated clearing ruble !!!
He had gold security.

The ruble was a non-convertible currency, settlements were made in dollars, oil was sold for dollars.

[sogdy]

Quote: Krasnodar

The ruble was a non-convertible currency

"Currency conversion" is a speculator's term. Only unsecured "currency" was put up for sale.
The basis of the international settlement of the USSR was a gold dime and a gold ruble. This is a currency that does not require conversion.
Perhaps you are stubbornly replacing the concept of exchange rate. So there were 6 of them in the USSR. And again, with the conversion to gold rubles.
With the accession of Gorbachev to the dollar system of mutual settlements, the gold rate was completely excluded from the exchange system - only paper. In order to protect the gold reserve. And, again, the ruble was not put up for auction.
So shta do not confuse currency and bank notes. The Russian Federation paid for dollars with an analogue of "kerenok", i.e. exclusively deliberately not provided with banknotes. Well, they were immediately warned: the dollar would collapse. Can you imagine how many ruble and yuan banknotes have been blown into the dollar bubble at an undervalued rate ?! And you are all gone.
And yes, in economic theory it is somehow asserted that putting national money on exchange trading (after all, "convertibility" in your understanding) speaks of the lack of security of this national money and the difficult situation of the country's economy. Therefore, it is always funny for us to observe the reasoning about the greatness and power of these countries. Vashcheta, these countries are one-day butterflies for us. The word is such a clever "ephemeris".

[Fat]

I know for sure: There was CMEA and the ruble ...

I remember the last historical CMEA session in 1990 in Sofia. The Soviet delegation was led by Nikolai Ryzhkov. He calmly stated that trade for transferable rubles between the CMEA countries was being terminated. The dollar should be the currency, and the price of any product should be no lower than the world one. People in the hall were bewildered. A stunned Czech delegation said: “But in this case, we will have to leave CMEA ?!” And Ryzhkov answered: “Well, go out. Yes please!" In short, good riddance! A few years after the collapse of the East European bloc, Bulgaria lay in ruins.
- Bulgarian journalist Valery Naydenov

[Krasnodar]

Quote: bratchanin3

I am still wondering how the 80 years of the USSR did without American dollars.

Canadian wheat was purchased for Amer dollars. Like many other countries.

[sogdy]

Quote: Krasnodar

Canadian wheat purchased for US dollars

As the bald elf Orbit used to say, "Intereeeesnoo!"
Vashcheta was not hiding from anyone that they were exchanging wheat for wheat. In the US, not "Canadian". Due to the micromineral composition. Changed 1 to 2. Therefore, in our country, such absurd requirements for the cultivation and yield of wheat were imposed on the outside view.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: bratchanin3

I am still wondering how the 80 years of the USSR did without American dollars.

They didn’t do, as before they did not do without British pounds, unfortunately.
But there were some periods when the Russian Empire and the USSR passed to the gold standard (the USSR during the NEP period) - and then yes, then they could buy abroad directly for gold coins. And so - there are some generally accepted world "hard" currencies through which most of the world's economic transactions are carried out ...

It would seem that this? let's go directly - but it seems to China that it is already the third time in 4 that they have been offering it for the third time, but it has refused. With India, it seems like finally something managed to break through, but so far with a creak ...

[parusnik]

The indicated currencies are pegged to the dollar and how it will look when calculating .. Let's say one of the defense industry factories received a multi-billion dollar order in rupees .. He received these rupees and what will he do with them ..? Change to rubles or yuan, then at what rate ..

[cariperpaint]

The point is not the currencies themselves, but the fact that these payments cannot be blocked. States themselves gave the right to track all transactions in dollars around the world. And all banks are required to transmit this data to them.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: parusnik

... what will he do with them ..?

You can take on the experience of the USSR:

Direct state management of foreign trade is carried out by the Union Ministry of Foreign Trade. According to the Regulation on this ministry (formerly People’s Commissariat) of November 12, 1923 (SU 1923, No. 108, Article 1035), it was created "to guide all foreign trade activities of the USSR based on the state monopoly." Abroad, he is subordinate to the trade missions of the USSR.

The dollar is not a panacea, but the simplest paper imposed on the world by force. This is a bondage, from which an exit alone is fraught (Iraq, Libya ...). In this regard, Russia has a number of advantages over other countries - Russia cannot be conquered by force. But it is very possible to persuade some members of the leadership, since "they are terribly far from the people ..."

[dauria]

.He received these rupees and what will he do with them ..?

Same as Aliexpress with your rubles. Either exchange, or buy goods for rubles. But the dollar is not a rock unshakable, he has a course. And how will such ignorance affect him in the long run? Not now, not right away, but next? Who needs a meter standard in Paris now? Well found a replacement, and even what.

[parusnik]

Who needs a meter standard in Paris now?

... And what is the metric system already canceled? I didn’t know .. What are we measuring? In fathoms, arshins?

[sogdy]

That metal bar, the "reference meter", is now of historical value. The standard of the meter is set in part of the wavelength - reproducible in any laboratory.
I have a reference half meter but I'm not in Paris ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: sogdy

I have a standard half meter wink but I'm not in Paris ...

I envy you. Yes, this is the dream of any man: with a half-meter "standard" and to Paris ...

[sogdy]

Quote: Polite Elk

I envy you.

Not worth it. Tungsten-vanadium, meter at 50mm by 10mm, and only two risks. Lies in a pencil case, the floor bends.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: sogdy

Lies in a pencil case, the floor bends.

Here you go. And so it all began. I already decided that Paris kirdyk. Although, just in case, specify which field we are talking about? I understand that about the female!
Friday you!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: parusnik

The indicated currencies are pegged to the dollar and how it will look when calculating .. Let's say one of the defense industry factories received a multi-billion dollar order in rupees .. He received these rupees and what will he do with them ..? Change to rubles or yuan, then at what rate ..

Well, on a rupee you can buy Indian medicines and start bargaining with generics. And you can buy one of the studios in Bollywood. In the OKVEDy add a new field of activity - cinema, singing and dancing, Jimmy Jimmy, you know ...

[Shahno]

I don't know ... It all looks like the sea. You paint "castles in the air, and the waves wash away the sand of failures." Without upheaval, it is impossible to replace the global money equivalent (although Rothschild offered Napoleon his flows and that whether he changed the system).

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Shahno

Without shocks, it is impossible to replace the global monetary equivalent (although Rothschild suggested his flows to Napoleon and whether he changed the system).

Well, everything was much more fun there, no one was going to change the system, gold Napoleonders were simply introduced to revive the French currency, and no one refused the British pound of gold.

Moreover, the same Rothschilds played very beautifully during the Napoleonic Wars - the continental branch of the house gives money to Napoleon to finance his wars, and the British branch of the house - to finance Great Britain, Portugal and other allies (including Russia). In general, in this scenario, the war might not end, the Rothschilds and many other financiers of Europe were directly saddened by the evil that the Iron Duke did at Waterloo, finally putting an end to the bloody 20 summer epic.

But even at Waterloo they managed to carry out a brilliant operation, while there was still no official news, the British Rothschilds began to sell English papers and pretending, having let out information that Wellington’s army was defeated after Blucher’s army, Bonoparty took Brussels and France triumphantly continues the war - with which they collapsed London stock exchange.

Owners of the shares began urgently, after them, to sell the British, French royal and Belgian papers ... Well, then the Rothschilds were thoroughly bought at a cheap price, and only then came the official news that de victory was actually from the allies, but it was done beautifully !

[sogdy]

Quote: Shahno

Without shocks, the global monetary equivalent cannot be replaced.

Vashcheta, as a global, this "equivalent" has existed for only 10 years. And even then, all this time there was a system of "intergovernmental commissions" that very actively simulated the global nature of the process.

[faiver]

this is called doing a good face in a bad game, some kind of kindergarten ...

[sogdy]

What are you talking about? About amers or about the work that Russia has been doing over the past 100 years, and the last 15 years - together with a group of countries?

[faiver]

I’m talking about our government ... Nichrome will not work

[sogdy]

Quote: faiver

I’m talking about our government ... Nichrome will not work

Apparently, you have nothing to do with international payments. Such private buy-sell is also outside the realm. Apparently, you still think that oil and gas is sold for bucks. Disappointing - only for finished products. Mechanisms, machine tools, production rights. After all, consumer goods.

[faiver]

You still think oil and gas sell for bucks

- they can be sold even for bagels, but the prices of both oil and gas are set in US dollars, and when making transactions in a different currency, you will still set the price in the chosen currency at the exchange rate to the dollar, it will not hit the dollar, seller and buyer they will be forced to make extra gestures, but if the trade turnover between the countries is quite solid, then the use of this system of payments is quite realistic, but essentially meaningless

[Boris55]

The first contenders for settlements in national currencies for defense transactions are China, India and Turkey, reports Dmitry Shugaev, head of the Federal MTC Service, to Interfax-AVN.

All according to plan. As soon as the BRICS with its NBR will be able to replace the arrogant Saxons with their Fed, this will be done. The transfer of the control center of the World is in progress and it is not reversible.

"... The New Development Bank (NDB) is an international financial institution, a development bank established by the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia , India, China and South Africa). The bank's goal is to finance infrastructure projects and sustainable development projects in the BRICS countries and developing countries.

As noted by Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Russian Federation proceeds from the fact that The NDB will develop funding for projects in the national currencies of the BRICS countries. According to the President of the NBR Kundapur Kamath, at the initial stage of his work the bank will provide financing for projects in the currencies of its member countriesas this makes it possible to reduce the risks associated with fluctuations in exchange rates ... ".

[Monster_Fat]

Yuan is preferable, although they are converted into gold and so on, you can buy gold or other currencies on international exchanges. Other currencies are not freely convertible, that is, you still need to find a broker who can, and most importantly, wants to exchange, for example, the same rupees for something like a dollar, while the losses on the conversion rate will be oh-oh-oh-oh.

[sogdy]

Quote: Monster_Fat

Other currencies are not freely convertible, that is, you still need to find a broker who can, and most importantly, wants to exchange, for example, the same rupees, for something like

Sorry, is this American limitation? The stock exchange is generally excluded from the process.
And yes, in Sberbank and VTB you can buy gold. Banking With a certificate and the right to pay with this gold. But not for dollars. The service is already three years old.

[Fat]

The service is 10 years old, or even more. Have you ever been interested in the size of state fees and bank commissions. Banks buy gold, to put it mildly, MUCH cheaper than they buy. So, here you will not get sick.

[sogdy]

I am talking about the service of payment with this certificate in an arbitrary (conditionally) foreign bank. And not about a souvenir ingot.

[23424636]

if the trade balance with one of these countries is stably positive, then the USSR experience in clearing currencies must be used, it is a pity that the current leaders of the banking sector and the same Kudrin did not know this system, they did not want to know it. They were taught in rooms with green dollar wallpaper ..

[Awaz]

they probably don’t know about this. We studied economics in American patterns. Even if they know, these are not the people who will untie the country from the dollar.

[sogdy]

Quote: 23424636

current leaders of the banking sector and the same Kudrin

Sorry, but you are still in the past. So for 15 years.

[sgr291158]

It's time to push this dollar.

[ender]

the first challenger is Venezuela ..

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: ender

The first challenger is Venezuela.

They simply don’t have dollars there, but in bolivars they are already calculated in wheelbarrows or in bags.

[sogdy]

If she manages to maintain sovereignty.

[_Ugene_]

These conversations in my memory for at least 10 years have been conducted, but things are still there. There is still no direct conversion of the ruble to Chinese yuan, only through the dollar.

[sogdy]

Quote: _Ugene_

There is still no direct conversion of the ruble to Chinese yuan

How large are you representing? Water workers paid with a gold certificate.

[Aslan mus]

Ask yourself why settlements have not yet switched to the national currency, although the talk shop has been talking about this for a dozen years? Those who signed long-term contracts will understand me. The parties to the contract are interested in the currency of the contract to be more or less stable at least until the execution of the contract. I think that the concept of "more or less stable" in relation to the ruble is unacceptable in our realities ... just like the Turkish lira in other matters. Therefore, international treaties are concluded in dollars, euros, pounds, francs and this cannot be changed until the ruble is relatively stable. The only competitor to the world's four currencies is the yuan. It is possible to negotiate with the yuan, which China demonstrated by starting to sell oil for its currency.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Aslan Mus

It is possible to negotiate with the yuan, which China has demonstrated by starting to sell oil for its currency.

The yuan is not a hard currency, its rate is dropping from above by the decisions of the CCP, so it also has questions, but at least the rate is more or less stable.

[sogdy]

Quote: Aslan Mus

why so far the mutual settlements have not switched to national currency, although this talker lasts for a dozen years?

And before this ten years, the calculation was made in national currency. You didn’t mix anything up in your question?

[Fat]

Criminals are calculating in bitcoins - they are poorly tracked ... Everyone spits fu-fu-fu ... And they run to the shops for video cards to mine their "crypto".

[sogdy]

Quote: Thick

And they run to stores for video cards to remember their "crypto".

Eeeeee? and you too?

[Fat]

I meant Sberbank mainly. The Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank have not yet decided what "cryptocurrency", means of payment or property is. The bill is sculpted.
And personally, I didn’t even find a decent video card in the store to just upgrade the computer, the deficit ... They tear like vodka during the fight against alcohol ....

[senima56]

Will our homegrown oligarchs allow this? They are used to getting TOP profits in dollars too (well, at worst, in euros)!

[sogdy]

Quote: senima56

Will our homegrown oligarchs allow this?

Do you think that their production is privately owned? Well, except for Bryntsalov, who, as it were, is not mentioned among the oligarchs. Since he is one of the three official millionaires of the USSR. Well, Bryntsalov is also not played with candy wrappers.

[Pontiffsulyvahn]

It is impossible to go to settlements in national currencies. Because for this, there should be parity between the countries between the purchased products: how much they bought, how much they sold. If the numbers of sales and purchases do not match, then someone will have to buy currency just like that. And what to do with it, salt in barrels?

[Stoler]

Pancake !! IT IS NECESSARY TO REDUCE FROM BACKS !!! Laughing out loud

[petrol cutter]

But this is rather good than bad. There are such suspicions ...

[Zomanus]

Here, I would put the replacement of the buck by the yuan. But at the expense of the rupee, I would doubt it.
Somehow the policy of India does not inspire confidence. They still seem to be in the service of the Anglo-Saxons.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Zomanus

Here, I would put the replacement of the buck by the yuan. But at the expense of the rupee, I would doubt it.
Somehow the policy of India does not inspire confidence. They still seem to be in the service of the Anglo-Saxons.

In recent decades, India, like China, has been in the service of exclusively its own interests, more precisely the interests of those ethno-confessional groups (in the case of India) or the feudal type of clans (in the case of China) who gain a significant share of power and begin to determine the course.