The power of Simonov's carbine: what does the SKS break through?

Invention of firearms weapons became one of the key milestones in the military stories mankind, and the development of metal processing technologies made it possible to turn the improvement of these weapons into a virtually endless process, where each successive sample is better than the previous one.

However, at times, engineering thought gave out such weapon models that remain relevant tens of years after their creation. Such unique models include the self-loading Simonov carbine (SKS) of the 7,62 mm caliber, which was adopted by the Soviet Army in the distant 1949 year and served for a decade along with the Kalashnikov machine gun and the Degtyarev machine gun.

High power, accuracy, ease of maintenance, reliability and unpretentiousness - thanks to these characteristics, the SCS received deserved respect in dozens of countries around the world where it was adopted.

For the Simonov carbine, four types of bullets were created that made it a certain kind of universal weapon, allowing you to solve various tasks on the battlefield: the ordinary one with the steel core, the tracer, the armor piercing incendiary and the incendiary.

In the video, the famous Russian military leader Semyon Pegov clearly demonstrates that with what kind of bullets he can pierce the SCS.

Comments

[AUL]

Good car! I had one in the army, 49 years old, with a needle bayonet.

[sabakina]

What kind of needle bayonet? Round?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: sabakina

Round?

Double-edged. This is really a good weapon. And the length of the barrel and the caliber and weight. I have this in the safe. Civilized SCS are forbidden to use live ammunition under criminal responsibility, in addition, they are pinned to reduce the range of destruction .. I really don’t have a pin, because I took it directly from the warehouse .. In my youth I shot on a narrow-gauge rail. And really three breakdowns. At that time how the partner from Saigi could not break through. Is it strange that the author did not know where the fuse is? And for the video, he definitely plus.

[sabakina]

Thanks Oleg. And all the same "natural" SCS looks more brutal than in your photo. I guess I'm retrograde ...

[Meshcheryak]

Vyacheslav, you can’t put optics on your native wooden forend.

Quote: sabakina

Thanks Oleg. And all the same "natural" SCS looks more brutal than in your photo. I guess I'm retrograde ...

And here four-time player is not superfluous. Good machine!)
Oleg, does he follow the standards with a folding butt?

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Meshcheryak

Oleg, does he follow the standards with a folding butt?

Everything that doesn’t concern a change in the design of the carbine from the manufacturer’s factory goes through. And even a detachable horn. An exception to collective hunting, it should be 5 rounds. But mine and the factory one are made of wood. And this is the American box. The Yankees very successfully make our weapons beautiful . It’s more comfortable to fit into the hand, and the balancing is better, you can adjust it to the growth of any person. Leave me in a fight with him not to hit with a butt. Motherland will say I’ll return it back.

[Meshcheryak]

The body kit is excellent, I approve, Oleg.
And if there is a plastic store for 20 or 30, then generally excellent. My friend can’t find such a forearm on the SCS, he says that because of the sanctions they don’t carry it already ... He bought a fenced AKM under this cartridge, because there is a tiger on a distant land, with a body kit on a Kalash, the situation is simpler.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Meshcheryak

because there is a tiger on a distant land, with a body kit on Kalash, the situation is simpler.

Thank you! Yes, I took tactics several years ago. In principle, nothing complicated, our craftsmen could easily mold it themselves, but for some reason no one is itching? And I have 51 rounds of "Vepr", but it's heavier, and is not suitable for daily wear as a universal SCS.

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: Mar. Tira

our masters would be able to sculpt it themselves with ease, but only for some reason who doesn’t itch?

Yes exactly! There are many SCS among hunters and many would like to put optics, etc.

[Bacha]

It is strange that with such a bed a fixed shop. With optics, removable is very convenient. Yes, and it looks more complete, the adapter is not so expensive and it is not difficult to install.

[figwam]

Quote: Meshcheryak

But does it follow the standards with a folding butt?

If the total length of the weapon with the folded butt is 800 mm or more, then it is possible, if less than 800 mm, then there must be a blockage of fire.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: sabakina

I guess I'm a retrograde ...

Vyacheslav We are all a little retrograde to old age. I have long doubted whether to put an American tactic on or off? All the same, practicality triumphed .. It’s more convenient to hunt with it. One inconvenience, there’s no place to put a pencil case. There is no niche for it! And it’s very convenient.

[K-50]

Quote: Mar. Tira

One inconvenience is not where to put the pencil case. There is no niche for him

Maybe in the pistol grip to provide a place for a pencil case, it seems that the dimensions allow.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: K-50

Maybe in the pistol grip to provide a place for a pencil case, it seems that the dimensions allow.

Hmm !!!! I'll see !!!!!!!!!

[hohol95]

The first batch of SKS-45 was equipped with four faceted bayonets. And the Chinese began to use trihedral bayonets from the 60s of the 20th century!
VO article
Bayonets of the SKS self-loading carbine
January 27 2016.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: hohol95

The first batch of SKS-45 was equipped with four faceted bayonets.

The former may be. But in the future, a bayonet-knife on Soviet and Russian weapons was installed and is now double-edged as an example of a sea dagger. They don’t rely. My sentries on the CP had knives not from AK but from SKS for some reason, so they are so detailed studied? Although we did not have SCS full-time weapons, only machine guns and machine guns

[hohol95]

My orderlies on the KP had knives not from AK but from SKS for some reason?

What are the knives from SCS?
Blade bayonets, like the needle ones, were fixed!
Yes, and for AK there were many options for bayonet knives!
View article AK bayonets 04.02.2016!
Perhaps your orderlies had FIRST AK-47 bayonet-knife models!

[Yellow bubble]

Ak 47 until 55 was without a bayonet, only experimental models, then bayonets appeared !!! Sks, the bayonet in the state was immediately !!!

[Wolverine]

Quote: hohol95

The first batch of SKS-45 was equipped with four faceted bayonets. And the Chinese began to use trihedral bayonets from the 60s of the 20th century!
VO article
Bayonets of the SKS self-loading carbine
January 27 2016.

When he served in the air defense in 1985-1987, I was assigned such a carbine with a 4-faceted grenade, just a song, and drill exercises .... oh where are my 17 years?

[figwam]

Quote: Mar. Tira

in addition, they are pinned to reduce the damage range.

) The pin leaves a mark on the pool, called a crook, and does not affect the firing range. And yes, the native tree looks better.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: figvam

The pin leaves a mark on the pool, called a crook, and does not affect the firing range.

The pin is probably the case, to facilitate identification, although not all weapons are pinned, but nevertheless all the rifled bullets are handed over to the cartridge case .. And the weakened charge of the hunting cartridge affects the slaughter, and the bullet itself.

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: Mar. Tira

although not all weapons are pinned, but nonetheless all rifled bullets are handed over to the cartridge case ..

Oleg, those trunks that are not pinned have punching and crimping remains, I have AKM with punching too, over time it will be erased very much if you shoot a lot.

Quote: Mar. Tira

And the slaughter of the hunting cartridge, and the bullet itself, affect the slaughter.

That's right. And the hitch is a little smaller and not evenly strewed, ours has such a problem. As for bullets, not only the ones with the lead core go to the hunting ones, but the geometry of the bullet is different - the shirt is cylindrical, and the military narrows, which has a positive effect on aerodynamics. Of our hunting BPs, I only met Klimovsk factory with cartridges with a narrowed shirt, but I didn’t really like gunpowder there, and they are rare.

[tracer]

Sloppy sight set. TOO HIGH. Although it is right on the dovetail. I recommend Molotov brackets.

[AUL]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Double-edged.

Oleg, here you are wrong - the needle bayonet is not double-edged. It was in later issues that they began to put blade-type bayonets, and on mine, 1949, it was needle-shaped, like a three-ruler, only tetrahedral!

[hohol95]

VO article
Bayonets of the SKS self-loading carbine
January 27 2016
Soviet was tetrahedral, the Chinese had three faces!

[AUL]

Quote: sabakina

What kind of needle bayonet? Round?

Like a three-ruler, only it has a three-sided one, while the SCS has a four-sided one. In cross section is a cross.

[Bobrovsky]

The trihedral bayonets were on flintlock rifles, and the Mosin rifle was always tetrahedral.

[AUL]

Quote: Bobrovsky

The trihedral bayonets were on flintlock rifles, and the Mosin rifle was always tetrahedral.

Mixed up! It happens...

[Shelest2000]

I have one in a safe. Slightly tuned, set optics, bought add-on stores. An excellent carbine for shooting at 200-300 meters.

[tracer]

If the bevel of the receiver is made at a slight reverse angle or 90 degrees ... then all the shells will fly to the right and down. The shell will never hit the sights.

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

If the bevel of the receiver do

Tracer, you reviewed Youtube, damn connoisseur. SKS magnetic reflectors are sold in any format, and you do not need to mutilate the barrel! The hunter ...

[tracer]

Hearing a connoisseur, I’ve seen weapons many times more than yours, and have finished or repaired after such skilled craftsmen as you. A lover of magnets ... electrical tape and Pontus omniscience. In fact, you are technically illiterate. Since you carry such nonsense.

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

I saw weapons many times more than yours, and finished or repaired

Of course, you saw, for example, the Polish PM or set the sight from the SVD to the SSBN and back. Or you own "Akurasi" which is not sold in Canada in the way it is considered an army weapon. You also know what most often breaks in TT. You call the AK magazine a clip.

Quote: tracer

Magnet lover

Dear peeling fan, for your information to SCS, for all ten years, there have been sold enough various devices, and a magnetic reflector including:

And there is nothing to cut ... This suggests that you are an ordinary "sofa shooter" who is absolutely not in the subject.

Quote: tracer

In fact, you are technically illiterate.

And how to call you after your shoals? Most likely just a nearby liar.

[gladcu2]

The scope is too high.

With SCS, it is difficult to set a sight for many reasons.

Faced such a problem. I'm trying to decide.
I wrote a little tuning from China. Let's see what happens.

[gladcu2]

I also served with SCS.

I bought my SCS. And I really liked him.

Yesterday, with Chinese corrosion cartridges from 30-40 years of storage in warehouses, a pistol target was fired at 200 m and the accuracy was 25 cm. He himself shot him.
I must say that the fly at such a distance looked wider than the whitening sheet of the target.

SCS was purchased from storage depots. Judging by how the fly was crookedly planted, there is a suspicion that no one shot from it before me. The fly really looked like a curve. With a fright, I even thought I bought a crooked trunk.

Of all the improvements, put the real SCS bipod.
I think to put a mount for optics. It will be necessary to drill and thread. But the manufacturer of commercials claims that the procedure is not complicated.
It is claimed that the SCS native sights will remain available to the user.
The downside is the price. Expensive.

[2329 Carpenter]

In the United States, at one time it caused almost a sensation. When the Chinese rifleman was allowed to sell there.

[gladcu2]

In the states of the SCS, the most common weapon.

[2329 Carpenter]

Nah ... It's very loudly said!
EK is much more popular - even offhand, without statistics.
And so in general about the States in this regard - it is difficult to say.
But white envy gnaws, yes ...

[K-50]

With the technique of safe handling of weapons, this blogger is not familiar with the campaign at all, because his reports are dangerous for the entire crew.
Not only in this video, but also in many others, the author constantly directs the weapon towards the operator, does not put the weapon on the safety lock, does not open it. In general, sometime it will "shoot" and God forbid that there were no casualties.

[vladcub]

For anyone, I'm glad I watch VIDEO: 1) visibility is always better perceived 2) such a shooter can really shoot at a target

[Meshcheryak]

Quote: K-50

With the technology of safe handling of weapons, this blogger is not familiar with the campaign.

Alexei, this is the blogger who shot at quadrocopter) that shooter!
And Defender without plates fastened)))

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: K-50

+3
With the technology of safe handling of weapons, this blogger is not familiar with the campaign.

Yes, it seems he should be sent to a training center. Is it strange that specialists did not introduce him to this model of weapon?

[tracer]

Typical plankton office deciding tires to play "cool".

[Slon1978]

Surprised, of course, that 7,62x39 BZ pierced 20 mm of ordinary steel. I didn't quite understand the author's thesis about the "gun steel" from which the targets were cut. Of course, when shooting, the author is slightly carried away, shoots at targets that have already been laid down, where the bullet hit is far from the normal and for the purposes of the experiment is meaningless. And the test with sand has failed altogether - I still do not understand whether a bullet of 30 cm of sand passes or not, because many shots were fired, including at individual bottles. But overall, despite the criticism, a great video.

[Leonid Har]

What shot was up? Random?

[sso-xnumx]

I tried to put it on the fuse, but it must be pushed forward. In my unit, a soldier died like that.

[vignat21]

Personally SKS pierced the neck of the rail. And there was a case. We performed the shooting exercise from the SCS at targets No. 4 from a distance of 200m. About 3 km from the shooting range, a geodetic point was located on the mountain, and as luck would have it, a pair of surveyors made love, usually fucking more precisely, and so a bullet fired by one shooter in white light hit the lover's mountain and killed him. Moreover, this moment was observed by two pieces from the shooting gallery, they in BMT did not observe the order at the shooting range, but in love, and saw how the half-naked Madame ran from fear around the place of intercourse and death. Well, of course there was a trial, but no corpus delicti was found.

[Bobrovsky]

Doubtful business. The rifle with a stronger cartridge and with a light bullet that weighed 9,6 grams sent a bullet at 3100 meters. TT pistol cartridge bullet flew 1200 meters. Cartridge of the year 1943 is intermediate, i.e. weaker than rifle, but stronger than pistol. Bullet weight less than 8 grams. Everywhere they write that it flies 3 km, which is clearly not true. It is considered slaughter at a distance of 1500 meters. Military weapon bullets retain destructive power almost until the end of the flight, and thus a bullet from the SCS flies to a distance of about 1700 - 1800 meters. How they killed a man at a distance of 3 km is not clear. Approximately the same bullshit with small-caliber cartridges, which are considered dangerous at a distance of 1500 meters. The weak charge of this cartridge is simply not able to send a bullet at such a distance.

[Yellow bubble]

Bullet arr. 43 years old flies up to 3 kilometers, if the army, if at the end - it hits the head, that's all. Bullets arr. 1910, up to 4700 meters at the end, they remain destructive !!!

[bloodsucker]

https://topwar.ru/89924-shtyki-samozaryadnogo-karabina-sks.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%88%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BA+%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%81&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Read, couch generals. And then argue in vain.

[Likant]

Convenient rifle! But it all depends mostly on the cartridge and gunpowder! Now I don't remember exactly "gray" or "white", but a more flammable gunpowder appeared, making the same 7.62 cartridges even more powerful! And the rifle is excellent! - in the Soviet Union they knew how to make weapons, and the American M-16 and next to such did not stand!

[sso-xnumx]

SCS, GRAU Index - 56-A-231, also known abroad as SKS-45) - Soviet self-loading carbine designs by Sergei Simonov. But not a rifle !!!! Find the difference !!!

[Likant]

Well, my uncle had such a carbine (it was a gift when he retired: he worked in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and loves weapons very much). He called him a carbine, and his brother - "do not forget to take the rifle! Let's shoot!" So I remember him with a rifle! :) I was 14 then and my uncle actually instilled a love for these types of weapons! So I am an "amateur", and I do not know all the subtleties: for me the main thing is CONVENIENT, and this is "convenient" I have met so far only with Soviet weapons, although I also had a chance to shoot from foreign copies! :)

[M. Michelson]

But it’s a pity that such a wonderful weapon was abolished for the sake of unification. Return it to the troops, as it was in the 60s - for the rear units. At the same time, saving on cartridges; for defensive shooting something is quite reasonable sufficiency.
And still it in protection and police. Because walking around the city with a gun is crazy. And with a carbine it is both safer and more solid: bayonets in the sun sparkle only this way. (But seriously, it would be worth creating a police option based on SCS.)

[gladcu2]

SCS was discontinued for one reason only.

It was more expensive than the AK-47 in production.

Well, the reason is serious.

[Dormidont]

SKS is a legendary weapon. Like Volga GAZ -21

[Jerk]

Beter aboard with a fifty-cent - breaks through, with a whistle. By the way, the tower did not save

[Jerk]

Quote: Dormidont

SCS - a weapon of legend.

By the way, Mikhelson is not quite unification, the cartridge is the same) There is an oar, there is a Kalash, the SKS is not visible)

[av58]

You can’t put normal mounts for targets, so as not to fall? The intellectual level of the leader is amazing.

[Sergey Shilov]

They shot from SKS in the plow share of ten meters. Conventional cartridges. I do not complain about the eye, therefore, with a different thickness, the share was also different. 4 mm pierced through, turning the edges of the hole. 5 mm did not pierce, but left a dent not less than 5-6 mm deep. 6 mm steel bullets did not succumb at all. Only a scratch remains.

[Bobrovsky]

It depends on which bullet, with a lead core or with steel. And the cartridge is either military or hunting.