You are in army now ... The army of the likely enemy "from the inside." Part one

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The recruiter's speech was so sweet -
Rest, live and sing songs!
But ... now you, boy, in the army!
Yes, oh, oh, now you have joined the army!
(a variant of the translation of a fragment of a known composition of the Status Quo group)


Yes, yes, of course, you were not mistaken, it will be about our "overseas partners", about the US Army. In connection with the next round of “increasing friendliness” in the world, we consider it possible and relevant to present an analysis of the situation in the troops of one of the main geostrategic opponents of Russia.



We immediately warn you that the presented material is based on American data, it will reflect the realities of the modern American army, presented directly by the American source, and therefore some points may not like part of the audience of our portal. However, if we removed all the unpleasant "roughness", then the objectivity of the proposed information would be lost, and therefore the purpose of the presentation would be lost (believe me, we already smoothed a lot, especially in the second part).

Let's start, perhaps, with the main, with a system of acquisition. People of different ages are going to serve in the US Army, to different positions, respectively, receiving different shoulder straps, but we will tell you about the usual way of an ordinary soldier.

One of the main categories of recruitment of the US Army is the usual young guys after 18 years from poor families, mostly from provincial cities (both white and African Americans, as well as people from Latin America, with the proportion of the latter constantly increasing).



If his parents cannot pay him for college, then a simple young American is looking for work, and if he is not, or she is not satisfied with him, or he has some other motives (for example, “a sense of patriotic duty”), then he goes to serve in the army.

Basically, there are soldiers going there who are mediocre enough to attend school, who have certain behavioral problems and with the police already in their youth, and are mostly not prone to intellectual activity.

The truth is frank "morons, damn it" (@ S. Lavrov) still do not get there, as well as drug addicts, as well as people who had become professional criminals. Still, a person with a criminal record may well become a US Army soldier (certainly not an officer, at least at the beginning of the service), especially if he was convicted under light articles (thefts without major damage and without the use of physical violence, carjacking, petty fraud, fights without murder, etc.).

Sometimes, oddly enough, but even right on the court, the convicted person is immediately offered to go to military service instead of the “jail time” (if before that the results of psychological testing showed professional fitness of the person for army service).



A special, very large, category of recruitment of the US army in recent years are foreigners who, after careful selection, sign a long-term contract for the sake of obtaining American citizenship for themselves and their families.

To get into the US Army to an ordinary American, he needs to contact a recruiting center, often mobile (as you know, people like this have recently appeared in the Russian army). We can say that in some ways its functions are similar to the Russian "military registration and enlistment offices".

True, in American recruitment points, officers, sergeants and soldiers on active service do not serve, but almost exclusively commissioned veterans and disabled people. So the state shows its concern for them, realizing that it is difficult for them to survive “in the civilian”, and so they remain useful for society and receive a normal salary (while its size increases in proportion to the number of recruits recruited).

Right in the recruitment point, the candidate undergoes a medical and psychological examination, passes all tests for free, and his dossier undergoes a preliminary online check in the special services. After all this, there is a “profile testing”, i.e. the general erudition of the recruit is analyzed, the level of his knowledge of English and other languages, basic knowledge in a number of sciences, from stories before mathematics. Also, right in the recruitment point physical standards are surrendered (running, pulling up, etc.).



According to the results of all checks, the choice of available specialties is offered (it can be quite large, from a simple infantryman to a satellite operator). As a result, the candidate signs a contract (the length of which you can choose, it also depends on the army specialization, usually from 2 to 6 years). After that, the young recruit goes home, where he is waiting for a call; having received notification of the time and date, the newly baked American soldier is again with things at the recruitment point, from where he is delivered to the “school” by public transport.

Yes, exactly, in the American army there are also “studies”, and what is really happening in Hollywood films is happening there. There are very few officers there, communication of the arrived recruits with them is reduced to a minimum, and professional sergeants with experience become the “kings and gods” of the young “candidates for privates”.

Upon arrival at the “school”, all recruits inspect personal belongings, and the sergeants meticulously and competently search the “recruits” so that they do not carry anything extra (usually alcohol and drugs) into the location.



Then follows a new medical commission and conscripts receive army uniforms. After that, the sergeants call up the future soldiers of the US Army assigned to them, naming their name, surname and state / city (this is necessary because there are many namesakes in the USA, and even full namesake, hence the appearance of John Masters Ohio and John Masters Oklahoma).

After that, all the "candidates for privates" go to the barracks to stay. Usually this is a fairly comfortable room, designed for about 30 people (American platoon), where there are bunk beds, lockers for personal belongings and all the minimum amenities necessary for life.

From this point on, recruits start a “young fighter course” (depending on military specialization, it can last from 2 to 8 for more than a month). During training, future yankee soldiers are trained in running, in passing obstacle courses, sergeants will expose them to psycho-emotional humiliation, etc. In general, the purpose of all this is not only to accustom the recruit to physical exertion, but also to identify physically and morally weak soldiers, so that they do not spend the money of the American military budget in the future.

In addition, recruits will again give up various tests, and sergeants will write different reviews about "candidates for the rank and file", how this or that recruit is suitable for the chosen specialization, or he should learn from another.



By the way, it was during this period that ordinary soldiers trained in the main types of bayonet combat, and a rather characteristic moment is associated with this, showing the US geostrategic opponents. The main mass of scarecrows representing enemy soldiers are called “Abdul”, and accordingly equipped in the style of “mojahed”. However, part of the dummy sometimes represents “Ivanov” (mostly equipped as early as Soviet uniform in the somewhat fancy style of the Red Army), and some - “ranks” or “Japs”, also referred to as the traditions of the Second World War period, ie Chinese and Japanese (who are dressed in Asian uniforms of the 10-20 countries of the summer prescription).

After passing the base “course of the young fighter” during 2 months and passing the next tests, recruits are transported to another part of their base, or they generally change their home base for further, more in-depth training in the chosen military specialty.

This course usually takes a much longer period of time: training as a simple infantryman takes 2-4 a month; as a sniper, deminer, radio operator, from 3 to 5 months; as a tank driver, artilleryman, artillery spotter, ground aircraft operator - 5-8 months and more. And only after this is the solemn release and appointment of young soldiers in combat units.

Continuation of the material will be in the second part.


PS (in small print at the bottom of the contract) Yes, I almost forgot, a small bonus - since in the US there is universal gender equality and freedom of manners, gay men and lesbians can quietly serve in the American army on general grounds, so far only transgender people have some difficulties (D. Trump tried to prohibit serving this category of persons, however a number of federal courts canceled his decision and from 1 in January 2018, transgender people can serve in the US Army).

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  1. +7
    25 August 2018 06: 15
    The usual practice of acquiring a contract army ... unfortunately we have the same problems ...
    1. +2
      25 August 2018 06: 40
      Yes, everything is the same as ours, basically ... And our military commissariat also fenced, about ten years ago ...
    2. 0
      16 October 2018 17: 38
      You will not believe it, but some call this army voluntary (well, at least not voluntary), but not as a contract! And so find the 10 differences!
      http://www.mn.ru/society/army/86526
  2. +7
    25 August 2018 07: 02
    The difference with the Soviet training is small
    1. -3
      25 August 2018 07: 15
      I don’t need any training at all. Right after the Oath, we scattered them around the boxes and taught them. So it’s more correct, I think ...
      1. +13
        25 August 2018 07: 22
        How not needed? And basic skills, but physical training, and shooting, etc.?
        1. +10
          25 August 2018 07: 31
          Everything is in place - we were immediately put into circulation by the "gods" and the officers with the midshipmen took charge of the run, the board of the large landing craft "in single file", the board skipping, they ran to their steamer - push-ups and travel along the handle, then aboard, in a goose step, guns and warheads -3 weapons to study. All sorts of different alarms were constantly playing, so that after a couple of months they were flying along the ramps and the interchangeability of the BCH-2,3 was at the level ... We were ready to meet NATO members without training ... Ah! Lie! Koki after training were, the rest- immediately aboard!!! hi
          1. +13
            25 August 2018 07: 40
            Well, the fleet is a separate issue ..
            1. +8
              25 August 2018 21: 28
              Quote: Krasnodar
              +7
              Well, the fleet is a separate issue ..

              I very much agree. But which brigades of the marine corps appeared on the land front of the Great Patriotic War — their foreheads cracked at the Manshteins, and the brigades /// which later became divisions, even the Guards /// They stood firmly on the defensive, and when they went to the West .. .so it wasn’t possible to keep them. The controllers from the General Operations Department kept the perseverance of these, really well done guys, moreover, the BRAVY. It’s evident that the Russian Navy is forging a spirit for any troubles.
          2. +8
            25 August 2018 13: 23
            Everything is correctly stated - after three months the young conscript either became a sailor, or "broke down" and was written off to the shore ... and after three years of naval service on the warships of the USSR Navy, men were already leaving for demobilization ...
          3. 0
            26 August 2018 15: 43
            Now say "years", they quietly whispered to "poltorashnik" and those like chain dogs worked out their semi-privileged place in the naval hierarchy on some ships served up to two "half-cock situation!
          4. 0
            29 August 2018 10: 17
            to the fleet without training - this is nonsense !!! basic skills are also needed there - from understanding the specific language of sailors, knowledge of the charter to electrical safety, the course of a young fireman, the ability to swim, etc.
        2. +16
          25 August 2018 07: 31
          I recommend the film S.Kubrika ...
          1. +3
            25 August 2018 15: 53
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            I recommend the film S.Kubrika ...


            Oh yeah. one of his best.

            I'll put this in addition and on the topic
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      2. +3
        25 August 2018 08: 12
        Same. A month of quarantine, oath, a month of training a specialty, and underground, on combat duty. Air Defense 91-93.
      3. +5
        25 August 2018 15: 46
        the navy just needs training. Even after half a year, young people, coming to the "boxes" for another half a year, are only engaged in sabotage ...
      4. +2
        26 August 2018 15: 36
        The so-called "second type" I also got on the ship, but as a rule, they do this with those who have a civilian specialty or the military enlistment office sent them to courses, or special knowledge is not needed in the boatswain's team.
        1. jjj
          +1
          26 August 2018 19: 42
          In Anapa study studied 9 months. Six months were enough only to 111, 112, 113, 114 shifts
      5. +1
        29 August 2018 17: 34
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        A textbook is not needed at all.

        In my opinion, it is still necessary, this is precisely the "course of a young fighter", general training, including psychological training.
    2. 0
      17 October 2018 14: 45
      Quote: polpot
      The difference with the Soviet training is small


      Ahem ... There is a difference in terms depending on the specialty ....
      Well, III .... Nobody tested us, which of us will be the best - a signalman, a sniper or a tankman ... laughing
  3. -7
    25 August 2018 07: 31
    A small question to the author of the article- Oh, you were there? Or did they write this opus for the same films (books, magazines)?
    1. +16
      25 August 2018 07: 51
      Quote: bandabas
      A small question to the author of the article- Oh, you were there? Or did they write this opus for the same films (books, magazines)?

      The author clearly wrote that it was taken from American sources, it is necessary to read carefully.
      1. -4
        25 August 2018 08: 00
        Thanks. I read it again. I guess I'm not attentive. I 'm sorry, I'm late.May I sitting down? What a sadness ...
        1. +3
          26 August 2018 07: 27
          for bandabas (bandabas)
          Book of Worms by Flenaghan Robert - (US Marine Corps novel)
          https://royallib.com/book/flenagan_robert/chervi.html
          Read, there is the same thing as in the article, but more colorful.
      2. +7
        25 August 2018 09: 43
        "The author clearly wrote that it was taken from American sources,"
        Only the author, out of modesty or forgetfulness, did not name these sources. Probably very secret.
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        2. +6
          25 August 2018 11: 16
          Quote: Curious
          for forgetfulness did not name these sources. Probably very secret.

          One called Status Quo - In The Army Now

          Others seem to be about the same. Kubrick, there, was mentioned.
        3. +1
          16 October 2018 17: 58
          I immediately remembered Artyom Borovik!
    2. +1
      29 August 2018 17: 35
      Quote: bandabas
      A small question to the author of the article- Oh, you were there? Or did they write this opus for the same films (books, magazines)?

      Thank God, I did not serve in the army of Matrasia! But the data from the persons who were there and sent their memories.
  4. +11
    25 August 2018 07: 42
    Quote: M. Syrian
    in the American army, on a common basis, gays and lesbians can safely serve, while some transgender people have some difficulties ...

    God forbid to be captured by such ...
    1. +5
      25 August 2018 09: 30
      Yes. They put on a gag, a black leather mask, put on a chain and forced to listen for days. I will survive Gloria Geiner. laughing
      1. +3
        25 August 2018 11: 19
        Quote: Krasnodar
        God forbid to be captured by such ...

      2. Alf
        +2
        25 August 2018 18: 36
        Quote: Krasnodar
        make you listen for days I will survive Gloria Geiner

        Incidentally, a gorgeous piece, we constantly drove to a disco. Hello, the song translated into Russian.
    2. 0
      16 October 2018 18: 00
      They cry, and this will not be considered torture!
  5. +4
    25 August 2018 08: 00
    in a twinkle about 25 years ago there was about the same article. not much they have changed
    1. +2
      25 August 2018 08: 27
      Quote: Gagrid
      not much they have changed

      Has changed. In the 80 they went because of romance, now they go because of poverty. And yes. I can’t find their pull-up standards anywhere. crying
      1. +4
        25 August 2018 08: 57
        I don’t think it will be different from ours
        1. +2
          27 August 2018 17: 03
          In terms of strength, their standards are higher, and in terms of endurance, lower. But slightly
      2. +3
        25 August 2018 09: 34
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Gagrid
        not much they have changed

        Has changed. In the 80 they went because of romance, now they go because of poverty. And yes. I can’t find their pull-up standards anywhere. crying

        In the Israeli army on the top 20. Amers probably also. Running (2000m) on the top five 6:50, EMNIP, and in my time, ideally, I should have done 72, in my opinion, the press in a minute.
        1. 0
          29 August 2018 10: 22
          I’m 43, I don’t go in for sports, I can pass all the Israeli standards by 5, only so many pull-ups - most likely I will get a light tendon injury, because a lot of excess weight. Israeli soldiers are rather weak.
      3. 0
        25 August 2018 09: 42
        https://valeoptima.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/нормативы-физподготовки-в-армии-сша/
        although some frail standards, I'm talking about push-ups and pull-ups
      4. +6
        25 August 2018 10: 23
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        I can’t find their pull-up standards anywhere.

        The standards are related to physiology and are similar in most countries, the difference is 3-5 times ... So I think the same as with us, as in the TRP standards ...
      5. +8
        25 August 2018 10: 32
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        And yes. I can't find their pull standards anywhere

        So they are not :))) They count off push-ups, running on 2 miles and lifting the upper body from a lying position
        1. +2
          25 August 2018 15: 43
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          They do push-ups,

          This is what I know. As I read that they have the 75 standard once every two minutes, so 120 began to push up. I could no longer, I repent. crying
          1. 0
            25 August 2018 22: 04
            Oh how strong you are !!! Go 120 in 2 minutes too. done.
  6. +7
    25 August 2018 08: 01
    Interesting article. A bit superficial. I would like in more detail.
    1. +3
      25 August 2018 10: 31
      Quote: dokusib
      Interesting article. A bit superficial. I would like in more detail.

      So this is just the beginning.
  7. -2
    25 August 2018 08: 45
    gay men, lesbians, and transgenders can safely serve in the US Army on a common basis

    What bedlam, Sodom and Gomorrah rest. lol negative
    1. 0
      25 August 2018 09: 40
      Yes, they (except transgender people) in any society are the same percentage as a percentage, it’s just better somewhere to keep quiet about it (in Marins and all rangers, I think too), but somewhere you can hide your rear-wheel drive laughing
    2. +10
      25 August 2018 10: 32
      Quote: K-50
      What bedlam, Sodom and Gomorrah rest

      But what, they can’t do it with us? :)))))))) The only difference is that they have - it is allowed, with us - it is not forbidden
      1. 0
        25 August 2018 11: 26
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The only difference is that they - it is allowed, with us - it is not prohibited

        You see, there are stories of the Russian army when, in the absence of passive gays, they were forcibly assigned to units (obviously, in the interests of diversity policy). I haven’t heard anything about American, maybe I’m following it badly.
    3. +6
      25 August 2018 10: 34
      Quote: K-50
      What bedlam, Sodom and Gomorrah rest.

      In ancient times, it was a matter of course, the army of "Iskander the Two-Horned" conquered half of the world, although there were plenty of them at all levels.
      1. +4
        25 August 2018 10: 41
        Quote: Puncher
        Quote: K-50
        What bedlam, Sodom and Gomorrah rest.

        In ancient times, it was a matter of course, the army of "Iskander the Two-Horned" conquered half of the world, although there were plenty of them at all levels.

        And the Spartans had instructions - to put lovers in the phalanx next, because they protect each other better laughing
        1. 0
          29 August 2018 10: 23
          do not prompt the original of this instruction?
        2. 0
          29 August 2018 21: 22
          Quote: Krasnodar
          And the Spartans had instructions - to put lovers in the phalanx next, because they protect each other better

          The comrade was just a little mistaken: he confused Sparta with ancient Thebes, there was a "Sacred Squad" just from homosexuals, like the best teamwork in battle ... Although with ancient Hellas everything was generally "not so" to put it mildly ...
    4. +2
      25 August 2018 14: 26
      Quote: K-50
      gay men, lesbians, and transgenders can safely serve in the US Army on a common basis

      What bedlam, Sodom and Gomorrah rest. lol negative

      What is it to us?))) Even if they "haunt" each other, even with stools, it won't be worse for us laughing
  8. +16
    25 August 2018 10: 02
    Strange, but according to materials not from American sources, but from Russian, one can learn much more than the author stated in the article.
    It is enough to use the journal "Foreign Military Review" (NN 1,2 for 2009, article METHODS OF MANUFACTURING OF ARMED FORCES OF FOREIGN STATES and N7 for 2015, article Main directions of combat training of the US ground forces). You can also use the article Combat training of the US Army (http://www.warstar.info/page2.htm).
    True, there is no cheap ernish, obviously characteristic of American sources, but there is a lot of information on the case.
    1. 0
      25 August 2018 10: 31
      Quote: Curious
      It is enough to use the magazine "Foreign Military Review"

      Is it really in the public domain?
      1. +1
        25 August 2018 12: 00
        ZVO 2/2009 is at the military archive.
        1. 0
          25 August 2018 12: 06
          Thanks, I read.
      2. 0
        29 August 2018 10: 25
        in the reading rooms of most city libraries can be found.
      3. 0
        16 October 2018 18: 07
        http://factmil.com/load/zhurnaly/zarubezhnoe_voennoe_obozrenie/14-1
  9. +3
    25 August 2018 10: 29
    gay men and lesbians can safely serve in the American army

    As far as I know in the Russian army similarly.
    1. 0
      16 October 2018 18: 09
      Theoretically. YES NO PROHIBITION!
  10. +6
    25 August 2018 12: 24
    Mr. author, the original song is called In The Army Now and written by brothers Rob and Ferdy Bollands aka Bolland & Bolland. Status Quo she was just quail (a cover was bungled).
  11. +3
    25 August 2018 14: 06
    And such shameful phenomena characteristic of retarded characters, like hazing and fraternity in the US Army?
    1. -1
      25 August 2018 15: 48
      hazing is everywhere and there is also a division among community members. Odnakako it should be there in a slightly different form than it was in the Soviet army
      1. +5
        25 August 2018 18: 01
        Quote: AwaZ
        Odnakako it should be there in a slightly different form than it was in the Soviet army

        Yes, hard.
        1. Hazing (informal relationships between military units of different appeals) and fraternity are everywhere and always. This is an absolutely normal process.
        2. This process can take constructive (mentoring) and non-constructive forms, up to systematic bullying and joking.
        3. In addition to subjective factors (unit commander), there are also objective ones. One of them (not the only one, but the most important one) is that this dynamic is much more pronounced in forced membership groups. In a professional army, where a person can simply quit at any time and has constant contact with the "will", conflicts resolve at much earlier stages. Unlike a prison-type army. The professional principle of recruiting does not exclude shooting, but it greatly reduces their likelihood.
      2. 0
        16 October 2018 18: 12
        You won’t believe it, but even in AOI such facts were and will be, but the defendants children of emigrants themselves know how!
    2. +1
      29 August 2018 21: 24
      Quote: Yak28
      And such shameful phenomena characteristic of retarded characters, like hazing and fraternity in the US Army?

      There are, but not in such forms and to a lesser extent than we do, this will be in the second part.
  12. +1
    25 August 2018 15: 53
    Quote: bandabas
    A small question to the author of the article- Oh, you were there? Or did they write this opus for the same films (books, magazines)?

    I agree with the question: it is one thing when I myself have seen or experienced a completely different calico, when I retell what I have read. There are topics and authors who tell interesting and informative. For example: Andrey from Chelyabinsk was not in Tsushima or on the Varyag, and V. Shpakovsky personally did not have tea with the Vikings and is still interesting.
    For some reason I find it more interesting to read Drabkin's cycle: "I fought" than the most, most idiologically correct story about the war. I read with interest: "I fought on the Tiger", the author met with former German tankmen, and then compare with: "I fought on a tank"
  13. 0
    25 August 2018 15: 59
    [quote = Hole punch] [quote] in the American army, on a common basis, gays and lesbians can calmly serve [/ quote]
    As far as I know in the Russian army similarly.
    We have many, many times less gay men than in the states. If there are two or three out of a thousand, what order is there to create a separate army?
    1. +1
      25 August 2018 18: 11
      Quote: vladcub
      we are many, many times less than the gay states

      Badly formulated. Fewer open gays.
    2. +4
      25 August 2018 19: 44
      Quote: vladcub
      If there are two or three out of a thousand, what order is there to create a separate army?

      And who counted them? In the USA, despite attempts to legalize them completely, not everyone is ready to come out, but in our country it is simply unrealistic. Public opinion openly despises them, which is supported by the most homosexual "get-together". The "blue mafia" is not a fairy tale, it is a reality, it is very strong in our country and is extremely interested in whipping up homophobia.
      1. -3
        25 August 2018 20: 19
        Quote: Puncher
        The "blue mafia" is not a fairy tale, it is a reality, it is very strong in our country and is extremely interested in whipping up homophobia.

        And the conspiracy theories reached blue.
        I have no idea what you mean by the "blue mafia". I deeply doubt that it is she who whips up homophobia through the spread of AUE concepts in Russia.
    3. 0
      16 October 2018 19: 31
      We are not states at all. In our army, it is better for a gay to keep his secret somewhere deep ... deep. And until the demobilization do not demonstrate their inclinations. Yes, and as far as I know, gays are not particularly eager for the army. Or has something changed in the last 12-14 years?
  14. 0
    25 August 2018 16: 05
    In a certain sense, we also need to look at their training and selection of contractors.
  15. AB
    +1
    25 August 2018 18: 33
    Quote: polpot
    The difference with the Soviet training is small

    Do not lie. The sergeant in my training camp, in the Paddock of the Nomadic Primorsky Territory, was absolutely adequate and gave a lot for the further service as a sergeant.
  16. 0
    25 August 2018 19: 59
    Good novel "Worms", and in the bottom photo, what is it !!!!!
  17. 0
    26 August 2018 16: 07
    True, officers, sergeants, and soldiers in active service do not serve in American recruiting stations, but almost exclusively commissarized veterans and the disabled
    very correct decision.
  18. kig
    0
    27 August 2018 18: 07
    A special, very large, category of manning the US Army in recent years are foreigners - it should be added that it is almost impossible for a "real" foreigner to get into the US Army. You must have at least a green card, and this is no longer quite a foreigner.
  19. +1
    28 August 2018 14: 54
    ...
    - Lucky man, ”said the sergeant,“ if you continue to keep pace, we both will go to the hospital, where we will have to surgically separate my leg from your ass.
    ...
    Robert Leckie, from "A Helmet Instead of a Pillow" - Memoirs of a Veteran Marine of the Pacific Company
  20. 0
    16 October 2018 19: 25
    Donny, what are you doing? To encroach on democratic values ​​in the form of rights of citizens of the United States with an alternative point of view on the need and value of a basic set of primary and secondary sexual characteristics ... Although, to meet in battle with an adversary who was once an adversary, it’s kind of creepy to imagine .

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