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The topic is not closed. UAC denied India’s withdrawal from FGFA joint project

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Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) did not stop work with India on the creation of the fifth generation aircraft. Moscow and New Delhi are still discussing the joint creation of the aircraft, said the head of the United Aircraft Building Corporation, Yuri Slusar.


The topic is not closed. UAC denied India’s withdrawal from FGFA joint project


In an interview with 1 channel Slusar said that India has not left the project and intends to continue to participate in the creation of the fifth generation fighter. He confirmed that the Indian side does have a lot of questions, but the Russian side "gives comprehensive answers to them." In India, they understand that only Russia can transfer a large amount of technology to them, other countries are not ready to do this.

The theme of the joint development of the fighter is not closed
- said Slyusar, adding that with the successful implementation of the project, the Indians will not only acquire fifth-generation fighter jets, but also deploy their licensed production.

Earlier in the media there was information that India was leaving the project of jointly creating a fifth-generation fighter based on the Russian Su-57 fighter because of the "lack of fifth-generation aircraft technology in Russia, as well as the high cost of the project." Another reason was the ownership of India’s own technology for building the next generation of aircraft.
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  1. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 20 August 2018 14: 47
    +8
    Given that the Indians have already invested a lot, a toad, such a large one with a trunk and large ears, will not allow them to jump from the engine.
    1. Mauricio
      Mauricio 20 August 2018 16: 03
      0
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) did not stop work with India on the creation of the fifth generation aircraft. Moscow and New Delhi are still discussing the joint creation of the aircraft, said the head of the United Aircraft Building Corporation, Yuri Slusar.

      If the plane for sale does not exceed the same fourth-generation dryers, then even a toad will be powerless.
      1. dorz
        dorz 20 August 2018 16: 39
        +2
        Russia intends to transfer to India the volume of technology on the project of creating a fifth-generation joint fighter based on the Su-57. It is assumed that India will not only buy aircraft, but will also deploy licensed production.
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 20 August 2018 18: 19
      +5
      And who, besides Russia, can offer them the fifth generation, and even with a partial transfer of technology? In my opinion, as Ostap Bender said, these are conversations in favor of the poor. Nowhere for the Indians to go if they really want the 5th generation
    3. Pajamas
      Pajamas 22 August 2018 23: 16
      0
      Quote: g1washntwn
      Given that the Indians have already invested a lot, a toad, such a large one with a trunk and large ears, will not allow them to jump from the engine.

      they invested $ 295M in a conceptual design and that’s it.
  2. Proxima
    Proxima 20 August 2018 14: 47
    0
    Hindus! Decide you at the end! belay Like Valdai virgins! Himself probably already uncomfortable. recourse
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 20 August 2018 14: 50
      +1
      Himself probably already uncomfortable.

      Not that you, Indians have no dancing without dancing. )))
    2. Genry
      Genry 20 August 2018 14: 53
      +2
      Quote: Proxima
      Hindus! Decide you at the end!
      р
      They have long been decided. There is a process of cunning bargaining with Russia and the internal struggle of various clans of corrupt officials.
      1. For example
        For example 20 August 2018 15: 05
        +4
        There is a process of sucking on "news". Everyone is happy to cling to lies and ignore information from competent sources. It is not Hindus who dance, but you. wink
        Once again they repeated, but you are restless:
        In an interview with Channel 1, Slyusar said that India did not leave the project and intends to continue to participate in the creation of the fifth generation fighter.
      2. Black sniper
        Black sniper 20 August 2018 15: 08
        +5
        The project is "moving" and it is quite normal, the Indians will not come out, it's just that many media, both Indian and Russian, are promoting themselves on this. hi
      3. venik
        venik 20 August 2018 15: 57
        +1
        Quote: Genry
        They have long been decided. There is a process of cunning bargaining with Russia and the internal struggle of various clans of corrupt officials.

        ============
        Well, HOW could it be otherwise ??? The "Indians" - it is ALWAYS SO !!!! :
        - Let's "dance" a little .....
        - Let's sing a little bit of songs .....
        You look ..... WHAT and "bargain"..........
        OH and "gypsies" !!! (No offense to "Roma" be it said .......). hi
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 August 2018 15: 13
      +4
      Quote: Proxima
      Hindus! Decide you at the end! belay Like Valdai virgins! Himself probably already uncomfortable. recourse

      If Indians decide, then immediately cease to be Indians. smile
      They have songs and dances around projects and tenders - this is sacred, one of the foundations of the nation. Declare - cancel - refute - change - refuse - resume - dump everything on the successors or political opponents - repeat the cycle. Moreover, the cycle often continues even after the conclusion of the contract.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 20 August 2018 15: 23
        -1
        In the sense of development? Has it already been developed by "Su 57", or do the Indians need something special?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 20 August 2018 16: 21
          +1
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          In the sense of development? Has it already been developed by "Su 57", or do the Indians need something special?

          Su-57 is for Russia.
          Hindus traditionally need cheap, fast, high quality: an airplane under their TK, which will not have exact requirements until the conclusion of the contract, and this airplane should be completely manufactured in India with the transfer of all technologies to it, but Russia should bear responsibility for all the jambs of production and operation. smile
      2. Nikolai
        Nikolai 20 August 2018 15: 26
        +3
        Quote: Alexey RA
        If Indians decide, then immediately cease to be Indians.

        laughing Yes it is... good drinks
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 August 2018 14: 52
    +1
    Yes funny how ... Gypsies without trade - will cease to be gypsies. Stop eating and sleeping ...
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 20 August 2018 15: 25
    +1
    I wonder how long this "daisy" with the Indians will last again? They clearly stayed in the project just like they did with the C400 - our aircraft is made for them at their own expense, since they were able to persuade the Indians not to leave this project!
  5. Vadim851
    Vadim851 20 August 2018 15: 52
    0
    They will starve as expected. Traders still what.
  6. Rostislav
    Rostislav 20 August 2018 16: 13
    0
    The blackmail attempt failed, returning to the project. Or failed? For some reason, I immediately remembered the message about the discount on C400 for India.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 20 August 2018 21: 41
      0
      Quote: Rostislav
      The blackmail attempt failed, returning to the project. Or failed? For some reason, I immediately remembered the message about the discount on C400 for India.

      Somewhere for 2 years I wrote calculations on the S-400 vs India. Proofs can no longer be found. The cost of the division over lard. Part of the amount Hindus must invest in Our economy. Do not give, but invest. That is, they could receive a dividend from this. I then suggested that the Chinese jumped them off .. Under such a scheme, in a long-playing disc, the Indians could pay back the purchase of S-400 and even have some kind of gesheft for it, but now it’s just a discount with a universal bummer for the residents of Hindustan hi
  7. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 August 2018 16: 47
    0
    They can be understood. Of the 9.6 billion dollars of the project, the Indians have to invest almost 7. At the same time, they did not manage to get information from the Russians, what exactly (point by point) the money will be spent on. And money can "disappear" in Russia. The Indians want to design a fuselage made of carbon fiber (for the Su-57 - aluminum) and put their own AFAR.
    1. shans2
      shans2 20 August 2018 17: 23
      0
      Is it the media that bother you in your valtsman?) Many are already tired of reacting to lies.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 August 2018 17: 38
        0
        I could give a link where all the figures I have given are present, but the article in English is useless to you. smile
        1. AVA77
          AVA77 20 August 2018 19: 50
          +4
          Well, yes, and the Su-57 CD is immediately compiled in English, for comrades who follow your link, which you will not show us. tongue
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 20 August 2018 22: 09
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          I could give a link where all the figures I have given are present, but the article in English is useless to you.

          I did not have time to correct the text, in another post, Alex. Aime sou sorry. And what do they want from Carbonate for free? A completely different glider. Yes, and not kosher absolute. It seems like pork what
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 20 August 2018 23: 00
            0
            Because the glider is not stealthy enough. Fitted carbon parts can "lick" rough spots without reworking the whole thing. Make faces instead of rounded surfaces. For example, the optical device-sight is cut into the fuselage very un-stealthily.
            And it increases the ESR in the front.
            You are wasting your head over the Indians in vain. Their pilots see how the French planes are assembled.
            They see at meetings in the USA how F-35 is precisely assembled jewelry. And after that, the rivets and fitting with a mallet of Sushki does not inspire confidence in the future.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 21 August 2018 05: 14
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Because the glider was not stealth enough.

              Has the bathhouse been burned? Alexei! Where do you get the data from? Either luminium, then carbonate. Here the engines are still loud in info glory over the whole of Ivanovo for a hundred kilometers. It’s true, but where is the infa from the glider? From social networks? Your on the radar spotted? What nafig carbonate, Lyokha ?. This bird is not a penguin, it must fly with overloads up to 9 je and at a speed of at least Mach 2,3 hi
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 21 August 2018 11: 34
                +1
                "From social networks? Yours on the radar spotted? What nafig carbonate, Lyokha? This Bird is not a penguin, She should fly with overloads up to 9 zhe" ////
                ----
                This is from the articles. And the articles took information really from social networks, but not simple ones, but forums of Indian and Pakistani pilots. Their theme of the Su-57 is very exciting.
                The penguin flies so far with a limit of up to 7 je, but from next year it will be up to 9 je, the glider allows.
                (Software removes the restriction)
            2. yehat
              yehat 21 August 2018 12: 45
              0
              everything you said is close to the truth, but stealth is not a fetish. This is only one of the parameters of the machine, and the same f-22 and f-35 are far from being distinguished by stealth technologies.
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 20 August 2018 19: 59
        +2
        Quote: shans2
        Is it in your rollman that the media bothering you?) Many are already tired of reacting to lies

        You can't refuse Voyak's logic. Why do they buy Raphali from the French for a very high price? They are going to localize AFAR, and they are going to screw it up. From here "highlighted like" Indian dances. Our AFAR don't want
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They can be understood. Of the 9.6 billion dollars of the project, Indians should invest almost 7
        ...
        Indians want to design a fuselage made of carbon fiber (the Su-57 has aluminum)

        And really, where did the wood come from? We write about the percentage of the composite in the Su-57 (the composition is undisclosed) and not a word about aluminum
  8. amateur2
    amateur2 20 August 2018 17: 32
    0
    "I am in Japanese boots, in a big Russian hat, but with an Indian soul"
    We have not yet agreed on the cap (rollback). laughing
  9. 123456789
    123456789 20 August 2018 17: 52
    -1
    The dog barks - the wind wears, and the caravan goes

    Popular wisdom.
  10. Real russian
    Real russian 20 August 2018 17: 58
    -1
    First channel. All. You can diverge. :)))
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 20 August 2018 18: 47
    0
    The Indians realized that they had got out of the program, and here the French warmed them up. So they decided to play back, because the Su-57 has nothing to replace in the future
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 August 2018 00: 47
    0
    Hindus, you see, are heavily drunk at the exhibition ..... they again took a step back.
  13. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 21 August 2018 09: 16
    0
    It seems the news about the exit from the FGFA project and about the return occurs when there is nothing to write in the relevant thematic sections of some media. So they mold this bullshit there. According to information from anonymous sources, India withdrew from the FGFA program. After a couple of months: According to information from competent sources, India did not leave the FGFA program. And people believe. negative
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