"Hummer" against "Tiger": who is who?

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The American Humvee, or more correctly HMMWV, is the most recognizable army SUV in the world. It is in service with the US Army (more than 20 thousand units), and other member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance. The car was created at the beginning of the 80-s of the last century on the basis of a civilian Hammer jeep.

Ten years later, the Humvees were massively involved in the Gulf War, where dozens of cars of this type would be burned. However, many of the shortcomings, such as poor mine-proofness, poor maneuverability for the landscapes of the Middle East, were partially or completely eliminated in later versions.



In Russia, a certain analogue of a protected army SUV appeared only at the sunset of the past century. They became an armored car "Tiger", actually created on the basis of the GAZ-3937 "Vodnik" and the BTR-80.

Already the initial modification of the "Tiger" surpassed the American HMMWV in engine power, throughput, power reserve, number of fighters transported and their security. Inferior "American" and in value: for one "Hummy" can be purchased before the 6 "Tigers".

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    1. +6
      20 August 2018 14: 55
      Ours is obviously better ... What to talk about at all, After the Willis (taught, thanks), our "lawns" have always been both reliable and unpretentious. And hardy as donkeys.
      1. 0
        20 August 2018 20: 25
        used to be called a hamer, then a humvee and how right?
        1. +2
          21 August 2018 12: 20
          Quote: Bar1
          used to be called a hamer, then a humvee and how right?

          HMMWV is also a Humvee (High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle), while Hammer (HUMMER) is a registered trademark of the manufacturer of the corporation AM General and the name of civilian car.
    2. +4
      20 August 2018 15: 01
      New Tiger, which will be presented at the forum "Army 2018", from the 29th minute:
      1. +1
        21 August 2018 10: 43
        Quote: Laksamana Besar
        New Tiger, which will be presented at the forum "Army 2018", from the 29th minute:

        from the 30th minute a new armored personnel carrier based on 80 (82) -ki with a front-mounted ICE.
    3. +1
      20 August 2018 15: 02
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And hardy, like donkeys.

      That's the point. In our country, in some regions, they drove donkeys, but they don't. Therefore, in our tank there is an automatic loader, tough as a donkey - and they have a "Negro Joe". And in Humvee go the same way, do not forget their traditions
    4. +3
      20 August 2018 15: 18
      Pampering it.
      Hamer appeared in Amer. troops only because they do not have an armored personnel carrier equal to our BTR80. In the sense that it’s inexpensive and effective, those that are are too expensive.
      And we have lightly armored vehicles in the army. It would be better if the UAZ was equipped with the indestructible MMZ engine from the Belarus tractor, but with a duralumin cylinder block, as they wanted to create at the MMZ, but Lukashenko banned it.
      That would be UAZ fire.
      1. 0
        20 August 2018 15: 27
        Can’t they create at YaMZ?
      2. +1
        20 August 2018 15: 43
        You are mistaken, Humvee created to replace the jeep m151, and not the armored personnel carrier.
      3. +1
        20 August 2018 15: 47
        BTR then they had m113 on the tracks. Later they were replaced by Bradley and strikers. And the Humvee was originally a vehicle that only began to be booked in Afghanistan and the second Iraqi. It turned out shitty. An analogue of the Tiger are South African developments, Amer LATV / MATV Oshkosh, and so on.
    5. +2
      20 August 2018 15: 29
      Compare Humvee and Tiger - this is how to compare Sherman and T-72. Cars of different generations and for different purposes.
    6. +6
      20 August 2018 15: 43
      The car was created in the early 80s of the last century on the basis of the Hammer civilian jeep.

      Jeep "Hammer" does not exist, Hummer entered the civilian market much later than HMMWV for troops.
      1. +1
        20 August 2018 15: 49
        Yeah, finally, on the contrary, everything was laughing
      2. +4
        20 August 2018 17: 50
        The car was created in the early 80s of the last century on the basis of the Hammer civilian jeep
        Here it is ... The author of the article clearly did not even bother to look into the Wiki. Not to mention anything more.
        1. 0
          21 August 2018 02: 47
          TX are approximately equal, but the Tiger is cheaper and more capacious, the armor is slightly better, especially the mine mine, which means better !!!
        2. -1
          21 August 2018 18: 02
          You are right, the "Hammer" appeared on the wave of minor disarmament, or rather the termination of military purchases by the Pentagon in the early nineties, then the State Department came to its senses ...
        3. +1
          21 August 2018 18: 29
          Quote: abrakadabre
          The car was created in the early 80s of the last century on the basis of the Hammer civilian jeep
          Here it is ... The author of the article clearly did not even bother to look into the Wiki. Not to mention anything more.

          Also immediately struck the eye.
    7. -2
      20 August 2018 16: 27
      Hamer is cooler and much, in the first place is the assembly of quality, reliability. The tiger was not standing near
      1. +1
        20 August 2018 17: 06
        Ischo would wassat . Colonel of the Navy did not learn to read and write?
      2. +2
        20 August 2018 17: 14
        [iHamer is cooler and much, first of all, it's the assembly of quality, reliability. The tiger was not standing near[/ I]
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        sure, the tiger will pass, and the hammer will stand up
        1. +2
          21 August 2018 09: 57
          Quote: Victorio
          sure, the tiger will pass, and the hammer will stand up

          They first met right after the appearance of the Tiger, in one closed competition with the Arabs :. Hammer was the first of those who did not reach the finish line at all. The tiger was in the top three, only they reached the finish line
      3. +3
        21 August 2018 09: 54
        Quote: Е2 - Е4
        Hamer is cooler and much, in the first place is the assembly of quality, reliability. The tiger was not standing near

        Sorry, did you ride the Hammer, at least in civilian? I have not ridden a Tiger, Hammer amazes with the "dullness" of the gas pedal and ease of control. But all the delight disappears, after talking about reliability and service, everyone complains. So what about "reliability and quality"better abstain
    8. -1
      20 August 2018 17: 36
      Hammer, Toyota, Jeep - compared to UAZ 469 on the road - complete nonsense.
      1. 0
        20 August 2018 19: 06
        I don’t agree at all) my friend Kruzak hunter 469 didn’t stand nearby)))
    9. 0
      22 August 2018 12: 57
      "Urya" is an article comparing what they saturate our army with and what the USA is already refusing ...
      In general, the old Humvee fulfilled his task - he provided the personnel of the "light" brigades with mobility, speed and at least some protection (yes, it won’t save from a mine, RPG or DShK, but only 4-5 soldiers will die, and not like in a truck) , now he slowly goes to rest, giving way to new products ...
      The American Humvee, or more correctly HMMWV, is the most recognizable army SUV in the world. It is in service with the US Army (more than 20 thousand units), and other member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance. The car was created at the beginning of the 80-s of the last century on the basis of a civilian Hammer jeep.

      And this is generally enchanting .... The truth was the opposite in our reality (I heard a bike that someone from Congress rode it during the first war in the bay and said that he wanted one in the garage and GM picked up the idea)
    10. 0
      12 September 2018 20: 21
      Compare Tiger and Hamer is stupid. Hamer immediately see the assembly technology, the Tiger is a car assembled in a barn. Why so because I rode both

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