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EW race. Americans talk about the analogue of "Kraukha"

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The Western press has published a material stating that an "analogue" of the Russian complex "Krasukha" will soon appear in the arsenal of the US EW units. Recall that one of the versions of this EW complex 1RL257 "Krasukha-4" is capable of "jamming" both radar signals and UAV control radio channels. In the conditions that proved themselves in Syria (when the militants repeatedly tried to attack the Khmeimim airbase with the help of explosives drones), such a complex acquires additional relevance.


The US Army is preparing to receive mobile EW systems EWTV (Electronic Warfare Tactical Vehicle). The complex is a platform in the form of an armored vehicle, on which a modernized electronic warfare system is installed. Crew duke. The US Army began to receive such a system in 2017. It allows you to resist a small-sized UAV, block remote fuses, suppress radar signals.

Now - a new platform.

The manufacturer of these systems notes that they are capable of operating in a wide range of frequencies, while encoding the signal so that it can mislead the enemy.

For obvious reasons, compare the real capabilities of the American EW system with those of, for example, "Krasuhi-4" At the moment it is not possible, since the exact parameters of the upgraded Crew duke in the United States is not yet published.

Earlier, the Americans themselves have repeatedly stressed that Russia has gone far ahead in terms of developing and creating systems and electronic warfare systems.

It should be noted that the original version of the Duke system was developed in 2004 year.

EW race. Americans talk about the analogue of "Kraukha"


Then one of the parameters of the system functionality was highlighted: the possibility of suppressing the mobile signal. Over 14 years, the functionality of the system and its technical parameters, as noted in American sources, has seriously expanded.
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  1. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 20 August 2018 07: 53
    +8
    The appearance of the American analogue of our complex is an indicator that its quality is proven. They always copy good things.
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 20 August 2018 08: 42
      +3
      Moreover, they have experienced all the "delights" of this system)
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 20 August 2018 08: 55
      +1
      in Russian-krasuha, in pin_dosovsky-naysuha.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 August 2018 07: 53
    +2
    Catch up, "striped ears" ... It's useful, shake up the fat and run, jog ... Just run quickly. Our developers are overclocked - you can't stop laughing
    I read about the US military budget. Of that huge figure - only 133 lard for armament. Given the PPP and the effectiveness of our military-industrial complex, it’s not very impressive either.
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 August 2018 08: 34
      +12
      Do not underestimate them.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 20 August 2018 08: 40
        +3
        Yes, no need ... But you shouldn't overestimate. We take any of their "cool" development ... "Zamvolt" there, "smart" grenade launcher or "flying penguin" ... I do not remember the old "chips" ...
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 20 August 2018 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        +3
        Do not underestimate them.

        And to overestimate too ... while the most breakthrough and working devices were made by foreigners to them. And now mostly Varangians are involved in the development of hard and software .. American scientific school .. (not to be confused with American citizenship) .. no.
        1. dauria
          dauria 20 August 2018 09: 29
          +3
          And now mostly Varangians are engaged in the development of hard and software.


          Yah ? And the Varangians simply because they found a simple and cheap way - the whole world makes the selection and training of talented people, and they buy them
          in addition to their own. They have their own scientists and engineers, and the children are talented. But it is everywhere a rarity in the world. So they buy jewelry at a cheap price, since others do not need it.
          According to the article - an interesting thing. Housing, connectors, toggle switches just like ours. Reliably and without fashionable beautiful mini, etc. consumer goods. They have a miserable part of microcircuits and components in general certified to the military commissar. Faced when my daughter wrote a diploma, some of the aviation REO. No, these guys are very serious and competent.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 20 August 2018 09: 53
            -2
            Quote: dauria
            And the Varangians simply because they found a simple and cheap way - the whole world makes the selection and training of talented people, and they buy them
            in addition to their own.

            I’m actually talking about this .., but this method has a fat minus. Own ..national ..science school in the pen. The Soviet government at one time divided science into theoretical (pure ... what was taught at the university) and applied ... what is connected with the technical process, the result is known to you .. Just using the products (graduates) of such a system gives an effect .. until you there is money .., money ends science ends.
          2. ghby
            ghby 20 August 2018 09: 58
            +1
            Quote: dauria
            They have their own scientists and engineers, and the children are talented.

            Talented children are everywhere. But the engineering education of our opponents is, let's say, lame. They have all their education focused on presentation, on presenting themselves in better quality, and not on fundamentality. Success in learning and promotion is achieved by those who can present themselves, and not those who have fundamental knowledge. Engineers are mostly come in large numbers or poached, but not local. (the daughter is studying there with a friend, at first he was shocked by the level of training in mathematics, physics and other things, what they give in their elementary school at the senior, some moments are not studied at all, but he says they are taught to present themselves - the main show - this is well taught there, but in engineering without a foundation you can’t go far on the show).

            PS comment write a second time. the first time I didn’t leave, today I wrote two comments and both of them didn’t leave the first time, I have to write again ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 20 August 2018 10: 30
              0
              I could not pass by. Don’t be angry. hi

              Quote: ghby
              But the engineering education of our opponents is, let's say, lame.

              I have no doubt that you, like me, graduated from both a Soviet university and a bourgeois one and speak out based on your own experience. Nevertheless, and not the "temple" whether their engineers created what you so much appreciated. For example BMW, Mercedes, Boeing, Apple and further down the list. Isn't their MIT number one among technical universities? How so? After all "They have all their education focused on presentation, on presenting themselves in better quality, and not on fundamental". request

              Quote: ghby
              Engineers are mostly come in large numbers or poached, but not local.

              "Basically"? Do you have numbers? In our company near Philadelphia, 90% of the engineers are Native American. There are also Indians, Chinese are less common. One German. A couple of "Russians". The Israeli woman is alone.

              Quote: ghby
              (the daughter is studying there with a friend, at first he was shocked by the level of training in mathematics, physics and other things, what they give in their elementary school at the senior, some moments are not studied at all, but he says they are taught to present themselves - the main show - it’s well taught there, but in engineering without a foundation you can’t go far on the show

              Duc it depends on what the "daughter" is. If you sit in school, then you can not strain. If you get a certificate, you have to plow in such a way that you feel sorry for the children. For example, mathematics in school (we call it "level 5 units") corresponds to the Soviet first year of the university. By the way, Soviet, Russian certificates are not recognized here. Guess why. German, Swiss, American are recognized. Another indicator: only about 50% of secondary school graduates receive a certificate here. The rest are in flight. It's about the high school level and the "main show"
              1. ghby
                ghby 20 August 2018 14: 07
                +1
                Quote: professor
                I could not pass by. Don’t be angry.


                Wrote wrote a comment but the site again glitched and the comment was not published. (((

                Quote: professor
                Isn't their MIT number one among technical universities? How so? After all, "Their entire education is focused on presentation, on presenting themselves in the best quality, and not on fundamentalness."

                Maybe because they make up the ratings. Or their presentation is better.

                Quote: professor
                "Basically"? Do you have numbers? In our company near Philadelphia, 90% of the engineers are Native American.

                Indians or what? for a friend in the office, the locals work the same, but that's the way they have such legislation, there must be a certain percentage of "indigenous people, those who were born there," but they are dragging everything in large numbers, from the local there is a very small percentage of smart ones.

                Quote: professor
                For example, mathematics in school (we call it "level 5 units") corresponds to the Soviet first year of the university.

                Are we speaking for the United States and not for Israel, or is it the same thing? a daughter was born there with a friend and I know from his words that everything is bad with the technical sciences at school. compared to our schools.

                Quote: professor
                By the way, Soviet, Russian certificates are not recognized here. Guess why. German, Swiss, American are recognized.

                politics, job preservation for local.

                Quote: professor
                Another indicator: only about 50% of high school graduates receive a certificate from us. The rest are in flight.

                So is Israel and the United States the same? or are you from the USA? If not, then what does your country have to do with it? we are not discussing it.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 20 August 2018 16: 53
                  +1
                  Wrote wrote a comment but the site again glitched and the comment was not published. (((

                  Yes. Recently, the functionality of the site is noticeably buggy. Looks like it was made by a bourgeois engineer. wink

                  Indians or what? for a friend in the office, the locals work the same, but that's the way they have such legislation, there must be a certain percentage of "indigenous people, those who were born there," but they are dragging everything in large numbers, from the local there is a very small percentage of smart ones.

                  Indians are not "indigenous", but "native". wink and there isn’t such a law forcing employees to be born in America. This is nonsense. Anyone who has obtained American citizenship or a work visa has equal rights to employment. I myself worked there.

                  Quote: ghby
                  Are we speaking for the United States and not for Israel, or is it the same thing? a daughter was born there with a friend and I know from his words that everything is bad with the technical sciences at school. compared to our schools.

                  In the USA and Israel it is approximately the same. Only we have public schools at a level better than theirs. Y them public cheekbones just sucks. Advise your friend not to save on his daughter’s education and send her to a private school (private school). You look there and will go to Yale.

                  Quote: ghby
                  politics, job preservation for local.

                  Nifiga. Just a different level. We in the USSR gave a certificate all high school graduates. By the way, why should Israel recognize the French, German, Korean certificate, but not recognize the Azerbaijani and Russian?

                  Maybe because they make up the ratings. Or their presentation is better.

                  And you look Shanghai rating. Chinese like Americans do not really like it.

                  Quote: ghby
                  So is Israel and the United States the same? or are you from the USA? If not, then what does your country have to do with it? we are not discussing it.

                  Israel seems to be bourgeois too. No? It's fun in the US. At "public" universities, only 19 percent of students complete their degrees on time. the rest are "repeaters" or do not finish at all. Only 36% of applicants graduate from leading universities. data from 2014. That is, those who received the title ENGINEER really studied well and deserve this title. In my native alma mater in the USSR, 95% of those who entered "successfully" graduated from the university. We will not talk about the level of knowledge, otherwise I will start telling who and how passed the session. I will not say anything about evening and correspondence students.

                  PS
                  Harvard finish 97.5% of entrants. Well, just like our provincial polytechnic. wassat
              2. poquello
                poquello 21 August 2018 01: 54
                -1
                Quote: professor
                bmw, mercedes,

                ) Well, you praise Hitler, professor! Do you praise the Reich engineers?
                Quote: professor
                Boeing,

                ett without titanium can nowhere
                Quote: professor
                Apple Lossless Audio CODEC (ALAC),

                and ett majors love, the Chinese do better
                )
                1. Professor
                  Professor 21 August 2018 10: 35
                  -2
                  Quote: poquello
                  ) Well, you praise Hitler, professor! Do you praise the Reich engineers?

                  Thickly troll. These firms were on top of Hitler. And 70 years after Hitler they envy you.

                  Quote: poquello
                  ett without titanium can nowhere

                  Fairy tales. only 20% of the world volume is mined in your country and 70% of them are exported, half of them are exported to the States. Total of your titanium in the USA comes from you only 7% of the global titanium production. Some of these 7% goes to Boeing. And you are not the only supplier of titanium to the Boeing. Your share in any part does not exceed 80%. Thus, a Boeing will cost without your titanium, but where will you put it?

                  Quote: poquello
                  and ett majors love, the Chinese do better

                  Fox and vinogradd?
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 21 August 2018 21: 42
                    0
                    Quote: professor
                    These firms were on top of Hitler.

                    the professor it was a joke, but in every ... the Mercedes brand has been produced since 30 this is the period of the sale of 60 thousand of the minekampf book and the opening of the brown house
                    Quote: professor
                    Boeing will cost without your titan

                    I agree)))))), Boeing before us, he was not particularly fond of))))))))
                    Quote: professor
                    Fox and vinogradd?

                    or maybe we’ll go from fables to specific characteristics?
      3. Nikolai
        Nikolai 20 August 2018 09: 39
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Do not underestimate them.
        Greetings to Victor. hi In, in ..., I noticed that they don’t really advertise necessary and successful things, they’re promoting different things ...
        PS: As a smile. while encoding the signal so that it can mislead the enemy.... what time! Bam and the enemy got lost ... wink
  3. Vard
    Vard 20 August 2018 07: 54
    +3
    From the point of view of a mechanic installing electronic devices of the sixth category, the block in the photo is made with jambs ... which is generally not characteristic of military devices ...
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 20 August 2018 08: 11
      +2
      the block in the photo is made with jambs.
      Explain to us, wretched, do not consider it work.
      1. Vard
        Vard 20 August 2018 14: 59
        +3
        The block on the left is on the shock absorbers, and the cables are without clamps ... On the right, the block is mounted rigidly and on the bottom of the comb without sealing ... the cable is the same without the clamp ... On the left on the sliding part there are screws for a figured screwdriver ... Although the screws on the right are normal, maybe even with fixation ... as it should be ... In general, it is not clear what ...
        1. region58
          region58 21 August 2018 01: 00
          0
          Quote: Vard
          In general, it is not clear

          Here is larger. As for the execution, it seems like no complaints ...

          Only it seems to me that this "Duke" is as far as "Krasukha" ...

          Or different devices. In general, yes, not everything is clear ...
          PS Yes, confusion, the fact that the photo is an old version, and the presentation about it, that the video seems to be more recent ...
          1. asv363
            asv363 22 August 2018 05: 10
            0
            Quote: region58
            PS Yes, confusion, the fact that the photo is an old version, and the presentation about it, that the video seems to be more recent ...

            The second "animation" video proudly demonstrates how their "armored cars with jammers" turn off the fuse of the planted landmines, blocking cellular and radio communications. There is one problem - what if there was a cable to the battery with a breaker or a simple machine? A flaw, however.
  4. cat Baiyun.
    cat Baiyun. 20 August 2018 08: 01
    -4
    What, there was a traitor who sold the drawings of "Krassukha", and now the mattress covers are being issued as their own developments, but why not, they did not have time to rejoice at "Dagger", as the traitor leaked it, so here it is ...
    1. cat Baiyun.
      cat Baiyun. 20 August 2018 11: 50
      -1
      A-ah, the traitors dislike, so I'm right laughing good
  5. Kerensky
    Kerensky 20 August 2018 08: 08
    +3
    Come on! At our department of electronic warfare, soldering irons do not cool down ....
    1. Nikolai
      Nikolai 20 August 2018 09: 44
      +7
      Quote: Kerensky
      Come on! At our department of electronic warfare, soldering irons do not cool down ....

      It's good! good Just what do you solder there? I figured computers should smoke in CAD programs ... wink
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 20 August 2018 13: 02
        -1
        Just what do you solder there? I figured computers should smoke in CAD programs ..

        It goes without saying, but cadets must be able to solder, because they have their own ideas. There is an element base - let them realize it. Well, demonstrate ....
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 August 2018 08: 32
    +3
    Russia has gone far ahead in terms of developing and creating electronic warfare systems and systems
    The Americans are well aware that catching up is always more difficult and more costly, but you have to put up with the current situation and move the convolutions. Let's hope that our electronic warfare systems will remain one of the best and will bring many more headaches to a potential enemy.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 20 August 2018 08: 40
      +2
      Gene, welcome! hi
      After reading the article, the immortal phrase Rat from "Guest from the Future" came to my mind:

      But what kind of "cooperation" with striped ears can we talk about?
  7. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 20 August 2018 08: 34
    0
    So this is exactly what our predicted for sure, so I’m sure that our complexes have a significant backlog and ample opportunities for modernization.
  8. Professor
    Professor 20 August 2018 09: 06
    -4
    Recall that one of the versions of this complex electronic warfare 1RL257 "Kraukha-4" is able to "jam" both radar signals and UAV control radio channels.

    Exclusively commercial Phantom type drones. Army drones the size of Mule Rubella cannot do.

    It allows you to resist small UAV, block remote fuses, suppress radar signals.

    That's it. Only small UAV. And that is not for everyone.

    Earlier, the Americans themselves have repeatedly stressed that Russia has gone far ahead in terms of developing and creating systems and electronic warfare systems.

    Americans? Yah? If, of course, the National Interest is "Americans", then yes. lol

    It should be noted that the original version of the Duke system was developed in 2004 year.

    But this is closer to the truth. EW among the bourgeois is well developed, but almost its means are classified. For example, it is still not reported exactly which means were used by the Zionists in the naval battle at Latakia in the 1973 year. So what the bourgeoisie have at their disposal no one knows. Here and there, pieces of information erupt, but no more.
    https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3744593,00.html
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 20 August 2018 12: 14
      +4
      And again, the professor poked us in the face ... there ... Yes, calm down already, we are Laponniki, LAPNIKI!
    2. poquello
      poquello 21 August 2018 02: 12
      -1
      go nuts, but here pepelats not the same?
  9. asv363
    asv363 20 August 2018 09: 12
    +2
    Then, one of the parameters of the system’s functionality was particularly distinguished - the ability to suppress a mobile signal.

    A little belatedly, he appeared at them. In any case, the FSB was armed with a similar technique much earlier.
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  11. dma70
    dma70 20 August 2018 09: 28
    +3
    Quote: dma70
    For obvious reasons, it is not currently possible to compare the real capabilities of the American electronic warfare system with the capabilities of, for example, Krasukhi-4, since the exact parameters of the modernized Crew Duke in the United States are not yet published.

    And have the exact parameters of Krasukha-4 been published?
  12. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 20 August 2018 10: 22
    -1
    .... in the arsenal of US EW units will soon appear "analogue" of the Russian complex "Krasukha" ....

    Analogue or copy?
    Maybe again someone "accidentally, gave the breadth of that spiritual" technology to the sworn "partner"?
    What will the distinguished counterintelligence comrades say about this?
  13. Olga Donovina
    Olga Donovina 20 August 2018 11: 36
    -1
    Pindochat from Donald Cook's deck shouted "don't turn off our Aegis!"
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 August 2018 12: 51
    0
    The level of US electronics allows us to surpass our capabilities ... it’s another matter that for them our capabilities cut off everything ... and our troops can operate without communication ... this cannot be stopped by the Russian Federation.
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 August 2018 13: 08
    0
    You are an analogue! Nicely. It is disturbing that the race has begun, and the pins are not made with a finger either. It seems that our place does not have to stomp, catch up.
  16. Tavrik
    Tavrik 21 August 2018 15: 32
    +1
    The level of development of electronic warfare means depends on the level of development of enemy communications.