Bundeswehr will be defeated

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Germanic media was overwhelmed by a wave of alarmist materials about the absolute inability of the Bundeswehr to resist the alleged threats to the German state.

In particular, the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" made a devastating article, where it subjected the German armed forces to a very unflattering analysis, pointing out their current pitiable condition.





Ground forces, fleet, air force - everything is in a deplorable state. The publication recalls a sharp reduction in the number tanks - from 4,5 thousand at the end of the 80s of the last century to 225 units. The degree of combat readiness which is also in doubt. Because of the 44 Leopards that are in service with the Quick Response Brigade in Münster, only nine were able to leave the park on their own.

Bundeswehr will be defeated


The situation in Kriegsmarine is sad: in fact, the corvettes, which the German Defense Minister von der Leyen declared to be combat-ready, were not equipped with standard armament, and the submarines were not able to operate due to lack of crew.

According to the publication Bild, referring to the report of the Federal Audit Office of Germany, last year not a single German submarine was operational, less than half of the frigates and tanks could be used, and only every third combat helicopter.



The situation is no better in the Luftwaffe, where the outdated Tornado fighters (many of which have finally developed a resource) cannot be replaced with the fourth-generation Typhoon fighters.

On top of that, the armed forces are experiencing a severe personnel shortage both in the rank and file and in the command staff. According to media reports, every fifth candidate for officer leaves the service, breaking the contract during the first six months. And with the recruitment of volunteers to fill vacant positions for private and non-commissioned officers (about 8500 people are required per year), the situation is so disastrous that the Bundeswehr intends to attract foreigners (which is contrary to the laws of the Federal Republic of Germany).



A considerable part of the rather limited resources of the military department is being delayed by numerous foreign missions in which German troops and fleets are forced to take part — in Afghanistan, Mali, and the Mediterranean.



"Süddeutsche Zeitung" indicates that the participation of the Bundeswehr in the Afghan campaign in 2001-2014 literally drained the Bundeswehr, which in order to provide the German contingent with everything necessary, turned into a "spare parts depot", dismantling equipment and reducing the resources necessary for the defense of Germany itself and performing tasks within NATO.



German media claim that the government’s estimated funds to increase the defense budget (the government argues how much it should be, 1,3 or 1,5 percent of GDP) can only slightly reduce the deficit that has accumulated since the beginning of 2000.



It is noteworthy that journalists, practically repeating Trump word for word, accuse the German authorities of selfishness. Since they are in no hurry to correct the catastrophic situation in the armed forces, relying on the fact that the best defense of Germany against its external threats are the US military bases on its territory. And therefore they prefer to spend budget funds on completely different, more relevant, from their point of view, questions.

The surprising consonance of the positions of the American President and the German media is not accidental. Recall that in December 2008 of the year in the monthly “Unabhangige Nachrichten” a sensational material was published - the confession of a retired German intelligence general G. G. Komossy (later he wrote a book about it). He said that according to the secret state agreement signed by 21 in May 1949 of the United States with the provisional government of Germany, the conditions and limits of the state "sovereignty" of the Federal Republic of Germany are clearly defined. According to this document, among other requirements, Washington’s control over the German media is prescribed: radio and television, print media (newspapers, magazines, publishers), as well as film production, theater, music, school programs, curricula.

Judging by the German media space, this provision works to this day. In any case, the discussion of an increase in the military budget itself takes place not so much because of the need for this step, but because of pressure exerted on the authorities: external - from Washington, and internal - by American lobbyists.

German media are right when they say that the country's leadership feels relatively safe. But not at all because of the American bases (whose presence actually turns the country into a legitimate target for the opponents of the United States), but because no one threatens the FRG in reality. Russia is not going to conquer Germany at all, with which it is much more important and profitable for it to trade. The only manifestations of hostility against the Federal Republic of Germany can only be seen from Poland, but they can hardly be interpreted as military threats.

As for the foreign missions of the Bundeswehr (in Afghanistan or on the “containment of Russia” in the Baltic States), they do not in any way correspond to the real aspirations of Berlin. This is nothing more than “corvée” - work for the American “pan”, which does not bear Germany anything but significant financial costs and human losses for the Bundeswehr in the mountains and the “green light” of Afghanistan.



As a matter of fact, reducing military spending after the end of the Cold War and confrontation with the social camp allowed Germany to reallocate spending, implement many programs (including in the social sphere), and become Europe’s economic and political leader.

It cannot be ruled out that the desire of the US to hang on to Germany all the new military spending is also connected with the desire to weaken its position in the EU.

Without a doubt, the status of a European leader and dominant imposes certain obligations on Berlin in the military sphere. However, they are not connected with the overseas colonial wars in the interests of the United States or in an unnecessary and dangerous confrontation with Russia, but rather lie in combating illegal migration and combating terrorism.



These two problems in recent years have become major threats to the national security of the EU countries and already require the inclusion of military forces in their solution, since the police are not able to, say, carry out operations in the Mediterranean to combat the illegal transport of migrants.



But the solution of these really important and pressing issues is not so expensive at all, does not require a radical deployment of a tank fleet, an increase in the size of the army and the saturation of the air force with supernovae.

But the position of the federal authorities, connected by a number of obligations with the United States, is such that they cannot openly designate the priorities of the military construction of the armed forces of the Federal Republic of Germany and at the same time curtail or reduce irrelevant for them military programs. So they are “fading away” on the sly, being on “starvation rations”, about which Süddeutsche Zeitung is indignant. Berlin no longer wants to be a vassal of Washington, but it still does not feel strong enough to declare this unequivocally and openly.

Therefore, Germany, resisting US pressure, is trying, nevertheless, to reassure them with declarations such as statements by the head of the German defense department, Ursula von der Lyayen, who noted that a dialogue “with a position of strength and unity” should be conducted with Moscow.



However, what kind of “position of power” and what kind of “unity” can we talk about when Angela Merkel at a meeting with Putin discusses joint opposition to sanctions that the US threatens the participants in the construction of the gas pipeline? So the question "who threatens Germany?" Can be considered rhetorical.
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  1. +12
    18 August 2018 05: 39
    Without a doubt, the status of a European leader and dominant imposes certain obligations on Berlin in the military sphere. However, they are not connected with the overseas colonial wars in the interests of the United States or in an unnecessary and dangerous confrontation with Russia, but rather lie in combating illegal migration and combating terrorism.
    - the main thing in the article. Germany, no one threatens, they are not paranoid like Poles or Tribals. for the sake of appearance, they are "afraid" of Russia and nothing more, maybe because the standard of living is quite high because they are not involved in the "arms race", this did not like Trump, forcing the Germans to fork out (I'm saving you from Russia here!)
    1. 0
      19 August 2018 20: 30
      If they had the opportunity, they (probably) would have agreed with Russia in a quiet place.
    2. 0
      21 August 2018 13: 08
      It turns out that in addition to the United States, only the French army is something of itself, the rest are fellow travelers. In principle, the Germans realized that it was possible to spend money on more significant matters, and scored on their VS. Another reason because there was no one to attack them besides us, but we didn’t need to. So the money of the Bundesfer in medicine, education and ........ migrants.
      1. 0
        25 August 2018 21: 39
        All these panicky cries about the unpreparedness of the Bundeswehr remind me of Operation Serdyukov in German.
  2. 0
    18 August 2018 06: 16
    The Germans act wisely. Reducing the Bundeswehr. Saving money is an important factor. In addition, economic expansion is much more effective. And there are no opponents left in Europe. Russia is a junior trading partner.
    Amers need to rattle their muscles. So let them fork out.
    1. +6
      18 August 2018 07: 02
      Quote: apro
      Germans act wisely

      Who will let the Germans create a powerful army? No one, taught by the bitter experience of World War II. For this, American troops are in Germany to keep the Bundeswehr in check. As an army to defend a small state they will be allowed to do this, but no more. As the Americans said the generals tell us the Germans as well. But why do you need a strong army, are we for this? It is not a matter of wisdom, it is a matter of political will and geopolitics. The rest is from the evil one.
      1. +2
        18 August 2018 10: 49
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        Mar. Tira (Oleg) Today, 07:02 AM New
        +3
        Quote: apro
        Germans act wisely

        Who will let the Germans create a powerful army? No one, taught by the bitter experience of the Great Patriotic War

        Until the beginning of the 90s, the Germans had 4500 tanks and a half-million army. The strongest in Western Europe.
        After the collapse of the USSR and the annexation of the German Democratic Republic, the Germans relaxed and, with their characteristic pragmatism, decided not to waste unnecessary money on the army - there is no USSR, but it is not possible to defend against the United States anyway, although there is a strong army, even though it does not exist at all.
      2. +9
        18 August 2018 11: 04
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        Who will let the Germans create a powerful army? No one, taught by the bitter experience of the Great Patriotic War

        Oleg, you are ... During the Cold War, it was the Bundeswehr that was the basis of NATO forces in Europe.
        The Bundeswehr consisted of the ground forces themselves (12 divisions, including 6 armored, 4 infantry, one mining and one airborne), as well as territorial troops with 12 brigades and 15 regiments of “Haimatschutz” (which together is probably XNUMN XN brigades or 17 divisions). At the same time, in peacetime, ground troops (divisions) were manned by about 19% (not territorial), and the number of tank divisions they had was 6 80 people (that is, in fact, a tank corps). The Bundeswehr had 24 thousand tanks, 000 thousand infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 7 thousand guns, mortars and MLRS, from the air they were supported by a thousand aircraft
      3. -1
        18 August 2018 13: 15
        so why do we have to rush with su57 and t14 / 15 if they can’t oppose us anything? and while the United States builds up a contingent that is really threatening us, we will manage to get new ones and maybe Borisov and the command generally don’t understand what’s what?
        1. 0
          19 August 2018 20: 26
          Quote: mashinist
          so why do we have to rush with su57 and t14 / 15 if they can’t oppose us anything? and while the United States builds up a contingent that is really threatening us, we will manage to get new ones and maybe Borisov and the command generally don’t understand what’s what?


          To begin with, it would not hurt to find out whether, in principle, Germany needs a war with Russia? And for the sake of what the Germans bring not so big contradictions with Russia before the war? In order to ultimately take full advantage of this in the USA, as it was after WWII and, to a lesser extent, after WWII?
  3. +4
    18 August 2018 06: 18
    Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius wore out lol The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror ... Baba (!) Is at the helm, there is nothing to drive, swim and fly !!
    And then tolerance pulled up and soon we will see a black eagle on a green background request bully
    1. +13
      18 August 2018 06: 37
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Baba (!) At the helm, there is nothing to ride, swim and fly !!

      And then tolerance pulled up and soon we will see a black eagle on a green background
      Or on the rainbow.
    2. AUL
      0
      18 August 2018 09: 28
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius is worn out. The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror ... B

      It’s just that they were weaned qualitatively to fight in the 45th, they still remember. And they really understand that they don’t have to fight, no one. Trading is more effective than fighting!
      1. 0
        19 August 2018 20: 33
        Quote from AUL
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius is worn out. The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror ... B

        It’s just that they were weaned qualitatively to fight in the 45th, they still remember. And they really understand that they don’t have to fight, no one. Trading is more effective than fighting!

        The answer to the question is important - WHO weaned! And to whom they owe their existence.
    3. 0
      18 August 2018 10: 54
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Rurikovich (Andrey) Today, 06:18
      +2
      Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius is worn out lol The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror

      The grandfathers of the current German warriors in 1945 shouted in unison: "Hitler Kaput." Therefore, most likely they are resting in peace, rejoicing that today's Germany has no real enemies who want to make war with her. The Poles don't count.
    4. LMN
      +2
      18 August 2018 22: 17
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius wore out lol The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror ... Baba (!) Is at the helm, there is nothing to drive, swim and fly !!
      And then tolerance pulled up and soon we will see a black eagle on a green background request bully

      It’s very wrong to think so. Look at the time between WWI and WWII!
      This time was enough for the FRG to rise from "0" to almost "1" and attack !!! to the USSR.
      If necessary, they will do it. And they will forget about tolerance.

      But in general, I agree with the author. Germany simply does not need this.
      1. 0
        19 August 2018 20: 36
        Hmm ... And you are an optimist! ... Remind me - which country under the Minister of Defense BABE at least won something, won? ... Most likely you will not remember such a country.
    5. 0
      19 August 2018 20: 28
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Yes .... The gloomy Teutonic genius wore out lol The grandfathers of the current German "warriors" are probably turning over in their grave with horror ... Baba (!) Is at the helm, there is nothing to drive, swim and fly !!
      And then tolerance pulled up and soon we will see a black eagle on a green background request bully


      Tolerance is not the worst. Much worse is the fact that under the guise of refugees from BV and from North Africa to Germany and the EU as a whole, radical Islamists could easily get into not a small amount and can only guess where and when these Islamists can do anything according to the will of Allah and his prophets.
      1. +1
        24 August 2018 11: 46
        This problem is not new, just with the accumulation of militants in the EU has become more relevant. There are many materials on this issue. Unfortunately, the leadership of Europe, with the stubbornness of a fanatic, cuts the branch on which it sits, allowing the so-called refugees to impose Islam, turn a blind eye to their crimes in the naive confidence in the assimilation of these people. But frankly, there is an assimilation of the Europeans themselves. The militants did not come to work, such as arranging their lives in a new place. They came to seize new territories. Already, there are areas, and in some places where the city is much better not to meddle. Something so sad, but true. Aggressive Islamization of the EU is in full swing.
  4. +4
    18 August 2018 06: 49
    Ground forces, fleet, air force - everything is in poor condition
    It is not surprising, because for so many years they have been relying on NATO (read the USA) that it was simply a sin not to relax. And now, when they finally began to understand that in today's world everyone is obliged to be responsible for their own security (and the main "ally" is also economically pressing) they suddenly realized it. It remains to wish Germany, and all EU countries, to continue in the same spirit.
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    1. -1
      18 August 2018 09: 21
      Wrong conclusion. In Germany, women in power brought the army into a peaceful state (if the state of the armed forces is accurately described in the article), which makes me personally happy.
      Quote: Mixanizator
      Bab should not be allowed to power .. wassat

      Naturally, the Russians are not good at imitating the Germans in the matter of the army at the moment.
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    2. +3
      18 August 2018 10: 27
      And a civilian "stool" too))) otherwise the whole harem will attract with it ...
  6. +3
    18 August 2018 07: 25
    There is still such a moment, on the neck of Germany, there are also refugees, who abound .. Cutting off their social benefits is fraught with ...
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  7. 0
    18 August 2018 07: 26
    As far as I recall, Germany imposed restrictions on the composition and quantity of its own army following the Second World War.
    1. -2
      18 August 2018 10: 00
      Stupid minusoid. Until 1954, Germany had no troops. After they were allowed to create the Bundeswehr - self-defense troops. Only with the connivance of Britain, France and the Russian Federation can these troops now be safely called the army
    2. +1
      18 August 2018 10: 56
      Quote: igorbrsv
      As far as I recall, Germany imposed restrictions on the composition and quantity of its own army following the Second World War.

      This is all in the distant past. There is only a taboo on a nuclear bomb.
  8. +4
    18 August 2018 07: 47
    A situation like the "Italian strike" - they come to work and pretend to be working. So it is with the Bundeswehr. lol
  9. +7
    18 August 2018 07: 55
    By SP-2, they grappled in earnest. It is clear to everyone (and the Federal Republic of Germany and Russia and the United States) that the solution to the gas pipeline problem will bring far-reaching changes in relations between the countries (not in favor of the United States) Yes
    1. 0
      18 August 2018 10: 58
      Quote: Terenin
      the solution of the gas pipeline issue will bring far-reaching changes in relations between the countries (not in favor of the United States)

      How is it? SP-1 didn’t really influence these relations, but will SP-2 certainly affect?
  10. wow
    +1
    18 August 2018 10: 33
    Oh, dumb men, dumb men ..... The Fuhrer is not on you.
    1. +3
      18 August 2018 17: 17
      Quote: yo-mine
      The Fuhrer is not on you.

      The Germans made a conclusion from the reign of Adik ... But your ropes ... the gang of Erist yearning ...
      Oh, and this is not good ... oh, not good ...
      1. +1
        24 August 2018 11: 55
        That you right attacked Great Sumeria
  11. +1
    18 August 2018 10: 41
    The fact that the Poles now have more ground military forces and means than the Germans, and that it is no coincidence that the Anglo-Saxons are now clearly playing the "Polish card" as opposed to the "German" one, including demands for huge reparations from Germany for the war and the Nazi occupation in 1939 -45, must be understood in time by the leadership of the FRG. Hundreds of tons of German gold are still stored in the United States, and are repatriated very well. slowly. In principle, the Americans and the small British are now quite capable of inflicting a powerful economic blow on the Germans in favor of the neopilsudsters and neobanderites, undermining the economic power of their main rival in Western Europe. Wanguyu that such a "plan B" is miscalculated in the special services.
    1. 0
      18 August 2018 11: 02
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      In principle, the Americans and the British are quite capable of delivering the strongest economic blow to the Germans in favor of the neo-pilots and neo-Bandera,

      In what way, let me curiosity? So far on the agenda, expectations are the strongest blow to the small Britons (by weaning the banking monopoly in favor of Germany and France).
      1. +3
        18 August 2018 11: 35
        Elementary cap. The United States can recognize the reparation requirements of neo-Pilsuda Poland as justified (this is about 200-300 billion dollars), add to them the similar requirements of the Neo-Bandera Kiev junta (the amount will be prompted), mix Greek (the Greeks also want about a hundred billion) with the Balkan, as well as Jewish - Yes, and the Germans will roll claims against a trillion greenery, in order to ensure that they will freeze German gold and other assets (states!) of Germany on its territory. There was somewhere around 200 billion German gold there. They can cover it up with judicial decisions of their courts, moreover, quickly and simply.
        1. +2
          18 August 2018 15: 23
          Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
          Mikhail Zubkov (Mikhail Zubkov) Today, 11:35 am New
          0
          Elementary cap. The United States can recognize the reparation requirements of neopilssudskoy Poland justified (this is about 200-300 billion dollars), add to them the similar requirements of the Neo-Bandera Kiev junta ....

          There are no legal grounds for such expropriation. If the United States wants to forever retrain Germany into the category of its worst enemies, in return having received a cookie and a kick in the ass, this is a flag in their hands. They will drink all the champagne in the Kremlin, they will walk for two months, no less.
          The Germans will not pay anyone hundreds of billions. German gold in the USA is now approximately 1236 tons. In dollars, it's about 50 billion. For such a penny to crash out of Germany? Only a madman can decide on this.
          1. +4
            18 August 2018 15: 56
            I worked in the USA and Poland in the embassies in the 70s and 80s. With the panes - both there and there. They sacredly believe that they are natural gentlemen and from birth, - maybe not all, but the elite for sure. Russians are subhuman to them, and Germans are original opponents. This is precisely madness, and in generations it is grown up, reproduced and transmitted. Only a madman can want a new war in Europe - but Americans like Dulles have been actively working on this since Truman and Eisenhower, who knew well what war was. Nevertheless, in 1950, they climbed into Korea fully. Fortunately, it was not in Europe that Stalin was at hand. And now, similar combinations are played, including calls from the Polish or German cards. You must admit that 1200 tons of gold is a decent bet to start with, it’s quite enough to put pressure on Germany and draw it into new military-economic tensions. For crazy Russophobes - more than! Poles already in the Donbass special forces have been fighting since 2014, and already local Cossacks more than once hung in the forests, in a quiet way. Having its losses of up to 500.
            1. 0
              18 August 2018 19: 29
              Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
              Agree that 1200 tons of gold is a decent bet to start, for pressure on Germany

              The Americans have enough leverage without gold. And more effective. The trouble is that the Germans are not to spoil the Russian Federation in part, and pressure is not required. They are already superhuman, who are supposed to lead everyone according to the staff list. But if the Americans overdo the pressure on the Germans, the effect may be the opposite of expectations.
          2. 0
            20 August 2018 12: 10
            Who will fly out there? In Germany, more than 150 (!) US military bases. Germany is a fully occupied country, what kind of independence can there be? .. Remind me at least one case when the United States returned the gold that someone had deposited with it. I heard about one case from the corner of my ear - and that is already in question. And that’s all. Everything sent to the USA remains there. And the stranger to jurisprudence, as well as to international law, the Americans from a high bell tower wanted to look at, which they basically do)
          3. +1
            24 August 2018 12: 01
            Do not you think that recently the states have acted just like that (like crazy)? In addition, who will expel them from Germany if the country is de facto occupied, and the state of its own armed forces is extremely sad.
  12. +3
    18 August 2018 11: 07
    On the continent there are only two armies that actually pose a threat to Europe, these are the Russian and Chinese. Let's start with the Chinese - China does not make sense to fight for Europe, the absence of a common border is very expensive for the transfer of troops, the presence of weaker neighbors and countries and the very last argument, this is perhaps the absence of contradictions.
    Now let's find out what we have with the Russians. In essence, it is the union of Russia and Germany that is afraid of the United States, long and persistent efforts are bearing fruit, we are almost enemies, but ........... American policy in the style of Make America Great Again breaks all the ideas of Europeans about a reliable partner. This partner itself can be dangerous, though not in the military, but in the economic sense, and this is not at all better.
    So, voices in Europe about friendship and cooperation are beginning to slowly be heard, because the union of Germany and Russia can really change the world
    1. +2
      18 August 2018 17: 48
      Quote: APASUS
      So, voices in Europe about friendship and cooperation are beginning to slowly be heard, because the union of Germany and Russia can really change the world

      As for Europe ... in some places - yes, voices sound. In the same Austria, Serbia, Hungary ...
      But only German business advocated the lifting of US sanctions on the economies of Germany and Russia. The Germans proposed not to take into account their prohibitions in our economic relations.
      But Frau Chancellor will not dare to violate the "Chancellor Pact" and go against the will of Washington ...
      Most likely, she will quietly sabotage Trump's cries and pretend that nothing terrible is happening.
  13. -1
    18 August 2018 11: 17
    It is not clear who allowed the Germans to have armed forces after what they had arranged in the world. How can they shout that they lack weapons if they cannot be given weapons! This is a nation damned by people! Although the state occupied by the Americans, but again got out of the habit of fighting.
    1. +3
      18 August 2018 12: 41
      As for the nation, you got excited. No worse and no better than others. But such a nation as the Americans simply does not exist in nature.
    2. 0
      20 August 2018 12: 17
      In 1945, by joint efforts, the German people was brought to that border, followed by the radical exchange of mentality that occurred. Just as Italians will never become Romans (for 20 years I tried to remake them, if he failed, then this is a sentence), so the Germans after the war will never become Germans, from the time of the Third Reich. Look at their values, tolerance, education, moral principles, and you will understand what I mean. What is it worth only cutting in half the unemployment benefits in case of refusal to go to work in a brothel. Moreover, for both sexes (tolerance is the same) This has been valid since 2005. This is what I remembered offhand. + The annual parade in Cologne, where up to half a million gathers ... as if softer ... people with alternative sexual orientation.
  14. +1
    18 August 2018 12: 18
    let more take a few ediks and transiks to the army of Germany
    1. 0
      24 August 2018 02: 27
      The Germans have always been famous for this. Representatives of sexual minorities have always been quite a lot among the Prussian-German military and officials, among representatives of the intelligentsia. Yes, and among ordinary Germans. Although they, of course, were a small part of the people. But the authorities of the German Empire were quite tolerant of them. By the way, of all the socialist countries, the GDR was distinguished by a more tolerant attitude towards them.
  15. +3
    18 August 2018 12: 36
    Two normal nations are Russians and Germans, who are constantly pushed against their foreheads. And, blah blah rulers.
  16. -1
    18 August 2018 12: 54
    poor ... poor Germany. And how I worry about Mom-Merkel - I can’t eat!
  17. 0
    18 August 2018 13: 11
    it’s good вооруж in Germany the armed forces are in a deplorable state, and in which EU countries they are in the best condition? perhaps that’s why our command is in no hurry with Su 57 and t 14/15? but how many screams were a couple of days ago that they shot everything and Borisov was shot ...
  18. 0
    18 August 2018 13: 58
    it is very symbolic that in the ranks they keep their hands on their backs, like prisoners xD
  19. +1
    18 August 2018 14: 00
    It seems to me alone that the German sailor is on the deck of the Russian PC machine gun?
    1. +1
      18 August 2018 15: 30
      Quote: Santor
      It seems to me alone that the German sailor is on the deck of the Russian PC machine gun?

      Well, not MG-3 or M60 at all ...
      Really not all stocks of the army of the GDR managed to sell?
  20. BAI
    0
    18 August 2018 14: 35
    Recall that back in December 2008, the Unabhangige Nachrichten monthly published sensational material - recognition of the retired German intelligence general G. G. Komossa (in the future he wrote a book about this). He said that according to a secret state treaty signed on May 21, 1949 by the United States with the provisional government of Germany, the conditions and limits of state "sovereignty" of the Federal Republic of Germany were clearly defined.

    Unforgettable "Chancellor Pact" surface?
  21. 0
    18 August 2018 17: 28
    How do they miss the late father Adolf Alloizovich ... But he could have put things in order in a crumbling, feminizing and bluish Bundeswehr! Yes, yes, II !!!
  22. 0
    18 August 2018 17: 49
    Quote: bandabas
    But a nation like Americans simply does not exist in nature

    If the concept of "nation" is used in the Soviet interpretation, then it really does not exist. And if used in the modern international interpretation (civil), then it exists. But the American "ethnos" really does not exist and never has been, a fact!
    1. 0
      18 August 2018 19: 32
      Quote: AleksSandro
      there really is no American "ethnos" and never was

      Ethnicity American now, basically, in heaps of reservations.
  23. +2
    19 August 2018 19: 33
    What is there to think! Take and replace the "Bundeswehr" with our troops. Not for the first time ... The GDR were definitely (at one time) satisfied.
  24. 0
    20 August 2018 09: 10
    In my opinion, the Germans would rather prefer Russian troops. No wonder they write on our T-34s "Russians, free us again."
  25. 0
    20 August 2018 12: 21
    An interesting German move: through the collapse of its own defense industry, by non-accidental connivance, to knock out aid to a nonexistent Russian threat from overseas ... They are tired of this approach - hence the conflict. A variant of a "silent strike" at the geopolitical level. “We do not have an army, if you don’t want to defend us, leave here, thereby giving us more independence from you, the defenders.” Somehow it turns out.
  26. 0
    21 August 2018 08: 26
    Of course, after all, the Minister of Defense has a gynecologist if they remember me.

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