The Defense Ministry is ready to conclude a new contract for the supply of Su-30CM

The Russian Defense Ministry has announced plans to conclude a new contract for the supply of the Su-30CM fighter jets to the Russian Federation Air Force. Under the new treaty, at the end of 2018, the military may purchase at least 36 Su-30CM fighters. The total cost of the three-year contract will be about 70 billion rubles.

Since 2012, the Ministry of Defense has signed contracts for the supply of 116 Su-30SM fighters, of which 88 are ordered for the VKS and 28 for the sea aviation Navy. Deliveries are calculated until the end of 2018.

Earlier it was reported that the United Aircraft Corporation expects to conclude with the Russian Defense Ministry a new contract for the supply of Su-30CM multi-purpose fighters. The head of the corporation, Yuri Slyusar, announced plans to load the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, which produces the Su-30CM, at the level of producing 12-14 machines a year.

Su-30M is a double multipurpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation. Designed for the conquest of air superiority and the destruction of ground targets. It has super-maneuverability, is equipped with a radar with a phased antenna array, engines with thrust vector control and front horizontal tail. The combat load of the aircraft is 8 tons. It has 12 nodes for the suspension of a wide range of rocket-bomb weapons. In addition to the rocket-bomb armament, it is equipped with a gun GSH-30-1 caliber 30 mm.

Comments

[Tiksi-3]

read the article and did not understand whether or not the Ministry of Defense would conclude an agreement? ... "so pebbles or sand" Kh.F Gorko.

[g1v2]

Will be. And this is probably not the last contract for Su 30. And for the VKS and the Navy.

[Orkraider]

Confirmed previously voiced by Slesaryuk. There will be a contract for 36 cars, the plant will be loaded again for 3 years. Fine. The price was a little embarrassing.

[Faceless]

What exactly is wrong with the price? This, if roughly - $ 30 million per fighter. Given that we sold Su-35 for $ 80 million apiece for export, and about 50 million for the MiG-35 (MiG-29 with indexes, modernized export, in general), it seems more than adequate. And if you look at how much Western fighter jets cost - generally fire)

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Faceless

Given the fact that we were selling Su-35 for $ 80 million apiece for export

100 million dollars apiece. True, it is not clear with what weight (engines, rockets. Zip, simulators)

[Orkraider]

It’s not comparable with Western ones, yes. Below answered for the price, still there are hangars (dreamily )

[Ustin]

Quote: Orkraider

Confirmed previously voiced by Slesaryuk. There will be a contract for 36 cars, the plant will be loaded again for 3 years. Fine. The price was a little embarrassing.

I was confused that the plant would be loaded for three years ...
This is not the right figure for loading enterprises, including assembly production.

[Orkraider]

Earlier they wrote that before the age of 22, the plant needs a contract for up to 100 cars (export and its own thirty), so that without consequences (loss-making) go to the production of MS-21. Not yet, but .. I think everything will turn out, we just do not have all the information.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Orkraider

The price was a little embarrassing.

And what is wrong? Everything seems to be alright

[Orkraider]

The fact that the price has not changed from the previous contract, which is already many years old. This surprised me)) in a good sense of surprise

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Orkraider

The fact that the price has not changed from the previous contract, which is already many years old. This surprised me))

I understand you :))))
But here it is - the fulfillment of the last contract was prescribed for 2018 for a year, and the military has it - there is a base price for the product, it increases by the percentage of official inflation. data. Therefore, contracts close in terms will not differ significantly in value, even if in fact the cost of production has increased.

[ANCIENT]

If so, then good! New army aircraft are very necessary!

[Dzafdet]

It would be better to buy a SU-57 .. And then the rubber will be stretched and it will become obsolete ..

[ALEXXX1983]

Or at least a Su-35.

[spektr9]

Or at least a Su-35.

We are glad that 30 are buying, and not just one modernization is costing 27. At least

[alexmach]

So it is necessary after all of both those and others and the third ...

[igorbrsv]

One sad thing: 12-14 cars a year. This is 1400 for a hundred years

[seti]

Quote: igorbrsv

One sad thing: 12-14 cars a year. This is 1400 for a hundred years

In addition to them, in the VKS we also receive Su-35С fighters, we are upgrading the Su-27. And there is also the MiG family, namely the MiG-29, MiG-31 and now also the MiG-35. I don’t take into account Su-57 since we are waiting for it with engines of the second stage.

As for this order, it’s not enough to have ready-made aircraft. You need to have an abundance of trained pilots and technicians. And we do not forget these planes only for ourselves - and they are also produced for export. So not so little.

[Kasym]

Dreaming is not harmful - GDP spoke for 700 information security for VKS. And this is including other aircraft (Su-35, MiG-35, Su-57, Su-34).

[Faceless]

We had a period when one plant produced 28 combat aircraft per week. I hope that the circumstances that prompted such a production will never be repeated. But then it was proved to the whole world that the USSR is capable of total mobilization.
If necessary, we will increase issues by orders of magnitude. But what to do with so much in peacetime? .. So I see no reason for sadness.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Faceless

If necessary - increase issues by orders of magnitude

Quote: Faceless

We had a period when one plant produced 28 combat aircraft per week

it's all in the past. Modern technology is not at all like stamping it like hot cakes. This is not a Yak-9 or La-5.

Quote: Faceless

But what to do with so much in peacetime?

ha, do you think that planes don’t do it because there is no need for them? (I’ll tell you a terrible, terrible secret - they don’t do it because: 1) there is no money, and 2) all the capacities of the plants are occupied, including by foreign orders) Do you know when the war breaks out, it will be too late to do. You take into account that planes do not forgive, thank God, as in the 90s, but fly, knocking out a resource? Do you have any problems with the technical side of the matter, without emotions?

[silver_roman]

Su-30 would still deliver AFAR, new engines and a little work on EPR would be all. the truth is already a cool upgrade. why then do not order su-35? or just to keep the plant in good shape? sort of like the Su-35 in Komsomolsk do, and the 30th on Irkut?

[Kasym]

The novel is most likely a matter of price.

[Zaurbek]

Yes, the normal potential of the Su-30, just when upgrading you need to make the same glider with units with the Su-35S (except for the cockpit) and discontinue the 34th ....

[NKT]

Why take 34 off?

[Zaurbek]

To produce more than 30x, following the example of Hindus with a Su30MKI with an aiming container, it will completely replace 34ku .... there will be a more flexible fleet of cars.

[silver_roman]

Alas, I do not agree. it would be better to choose between 30cm and 35s, and 34 do not touch at all. Yet the car is unique. At this stage, in the same Syria, all the advantages of 34 are not disclosed, but if we talk about the global war, for which our army should be ready in the first place, then 34 with its unique cabin is simply obliged to be in the troops.

[PROXOR]

CITIZENS !!! Well, what are you hooked on the Su-35S and Su-30SM.
Understand one thing, the Su-35S is a DOG FIGHT machine, and the Su-30SM is a multifunctional machine. A typical situation: the bearded, possessing weak air defense systems, such as MANPADS and heavy machine guns, guard the object. The task for the videoconferencing is to destroy the object. Reconnaissance conducted - spotted approximate enemy firepower. Understood - that the Rooks would fall under fire from the ground. And here the difference in the operation of a single-seat and two-seat vehicles will affect. Upon entering the zone, the Su-35S pilot will be forced to maneuver when leaving the fire from the ground and he will not be able to move the machine to the enemy’s target. In the same situation, the co-pilot of the Su-30SM will be able to carry out this work. And most likely from the first call they will put bombs or rockets in the Object. The fact that the Su-30SM can work through the air is its UNCERTAINTY PLUS, but this is not its main work as the Su-35S.

[EvilLion]

Because the current contract for Su-35 expires on 2020.

[silver_roman]

But how many total ordered the 35th?

[san4es]

Su-30SM is a double multi-functional fighter of generation 4 ++ ...

[bogart047]

and there will be a zoo from different modifications of the Su-27. Why not switch to one glider with several modifications? Then there will be a bunch of versions of the MiG-35?

[abc_alex]

Su-30 double, Su-35 single, already the difference. And I'm personally not sure that their gliders are very different. What they really differ greatly in is avionics. Here they have much greater differences.

[Zaurbek]

The glider is different and AL-41 engines with more traction .... ideally, you need to do a 2-seater Su-35C ...

[EvilLion]

Already 71 serial Su-35 in the army and somehow do without modification sparky. More precisely, they use Su-30. If there is a mass of Su-30 and the transition to the release of Su-57, which, like the F-22, does not need a spark, the development of a two-seater Su-35 looks like an action of non-obvious expediency. Simply, the Su-35 will be a purely military personnel, and the Su-30СМ will be gradually withdrawn from the military personnel, passing into the training for the Su-35.

[Grigory_45]

The Defense Ministry is ready to conclude a new contract for the supply of Su-30CM

just ready - conclude. What's the question? Where to get the money?

[Cottodraton]

As a person in the subject, I will say that 12 aircraft is not enough to load.

[Zaurbek]

And yet, more than 15-17 aircraft / year do not produce either Su34 or Su30 / 35 ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Cottodraton

12 aircraft is not enough to load

so there is still a foreign order. They seem to do for Kazakhs. As far as monitoring reports, more than 20-24 aircraft per year never worked

[Berkut24]

Thirty is a good universal workhorse. The news is good, especially amid the start of litigation in the US over the rockfall at the Pentagon and the National Guard.

[Grits]

Quote: silver_roman

Su-30 would still deliver AFAR, new engines and a little work on EPR would be all. the truth is already a cool upgrade. why then do not order su-35? or just to keep the plant in good shape? sort of like the Su-35 in Komsomolsk do, and the 30th on Irkut?

Su-30 and Su-35 are slightly different from each other. Su-35 is a typical air fighter. His task is to gain superiority in the air. Su-30 in this regard is somewhat behind. But he acts as a good strike aircraft. It can strike from the air on ground, surface targets. Therefore, his cabin is double. So that the pilot during the strikes is not distracted from piloting.

[NordUral]

You read such news and a vague thought wanders in your head, but what is more important for these - reliable defense of the country or grandmother from these contracts? I would like the first.