Such a "war": the Russian Federation has strengthened in first place among the trading partners of Ukraine

The Ukrainian Observer portal cites a statement by General Vasily Vovka, the former head of the State Security Service of Ukraine. The Ukrainian general believes that the time has come when Ukraine should completely block the border with the Russian Federation, and not be limited to freezing railway communications. Vovk declares that "if war is already going on, then the border must be closed completely."

Against this background, Ukraine’s economic reports suggest that Russia once again ranked first among all foreign trade partners Square. Trade volumes from the Russian Federation are comparable to trade volumes with all EU countries taken together.

Meanwhile, in response to the statements of Ukraine about readiness to stop the railway communication with Russia, as well as in response to the seizure of the Russian tanker “Mechanic Pogodin” in the port of Kherson, in the Russian Federation there were claims that a possible option of a complete boycott of the Ukrainian ports was being prepared by shipowners. According to preliminary estimates, a boycott of the Ukrainian ports on the Black and Azov Seas may lead to the loss of the Ukrainian economy to 2% of GDP annually.

It should be noted that the Ukrainian statements about the need to close the border with the Russian Federation have already been heard for the fifth year in a row - since the emergence of Yatsenyuk’s idea of ​​building a so-called “European shaft”. At the same time, Ukraine has banned entry for male citizens of the age from 18 to 60 years, to which the Russian Federation has not yet responded mirror, and therefore hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian migrant workers continue to easily cross the borders either in Russia or in the Ukrainian direction, exporting from RF billions of dollars.

Comments

[Nikolai]

Well, we would not go to this "war" We go ourselves ... Why resent now? Let them "fight" with the European Union ...

[Megatron]

I have another question, why WE do not close the border and allow their goods to our market? Where is the visa regime? Maybe it's enough to already broadcast about the "brotherly people"?

[igor67]

Quote: Megatron

I have another question, why WE do not close the border and allow their goods to our market? Where is the visa regime? Maybe it's enough to already broadcast about the "brotherly people"?

because the vast majority of Ukrainian enterprises belong to the Russian alegarchs, they posted a list on the site, I only know in the city where I plant the Motor from

[Barzha]

because the vast majority of Ukrainian enterprises belong to the Russian alegarchs, they posted a list on the site, I only know in the city where I plant the Motor from

And what's wrong with the fact that the Russian owner of the plant gives a piece of bread to half of your native Konotop? Including your sister and her family. You write about Konotop? And the piston groups from Konotop have always been highly regarded. So now, stop production and leave people starving to die? What do people have to do with it?

[Megatron]

Since 91, we have not owed anything to any former "brotherly" country, especially since we took all the debts of the USSR upon ourselves, and the "brothers" came out clean. And why should we think about some kind of konotop when there is no work in our Kondopoga. We have already fed these wide 20-odd years with our free gas and an open market, but what do they do to us? There are still parasites left, but father and Armenia, we are also carrying them on our backs.

Visas, entry closure, complete blockade, including transit of goods in transit through our territory. Exception for LDN citizens. Very quickly Chubari choke in his dung. By the way, this also concerns our Georgian genatsvale, otherwise they screamed again about 08.08, it’s too early for us to remove the sanctions, it's too early ....

[igor67]

Quote: Barzha

because the vast majority of Ukrainian enterprises belong to the Russian alegarchs, they posted a list on the site, I only know in the city where I plant the Motor from

And what's wrong with the fact that the Russian owner of the plant gives a piece of bread to half of your native Konotop? Including your sister and her family. You write about Konotop? And the piston groups from Konotop have always been highly regarded. So now, stop production and leave people starving to die? What do people have to do with it?

Yes, about my native Konotop, and there is nothing wrong with that, I answered the forum member why they did not curtail cooperation with Ukraine, but the Motor Detail was built as part of the AZLK for new cars Moskvich

[Barzha]

igor67 (Igor)

Sorry, that means I did not understand the context!

Motor Detail was built as part of the AZLK, for new cars Moskvich

Then the piston went from him to GAZ, UAZ, etc. My friend drove to the factory in his truck himself. And in the summer of 2014, it was deployed at the Bachivsk checkpoint, because in the glove compartment, among a pile of all small rubbish, Ukrainian border guards found an old St. George ribbon.

[igor67]

Quote: Barzha

igor67 (Igor)

Sorry, that means I did not understand the context!

Motor Detail was built as part of the AZLK, for new cars Moskvich

Then the piston went from him to GAZ, UAZ, etc. My friend drove to the factory in his truck himself. And in the summer of 2014, it was deployed at the Bachivsk checkpoint, because in the glove compartment, among a pile of all small rubbish, Ukrainian border guards found an old St. George ribbon.

there’s a larger list, for Ikarus, a ship’s liner, now Mercedes, in my opinion there was such a plant in Podolsk, if I’m not mistaken, I’ve got a godfather at the factory, last year they came from Russia to pick up some of the equipment, the godfather told me, covered them with a clearing as always, but they (business trip) were scared, to stay in a bunch, after a few glasses it was all right

[dgonni]

What are the Olgin and moronic. That's all I wanted to say!

[taiga2018]

Quote: Megatron

Maybe it's enough to already broadcast about the "brotherly people"?

I have been asking myself the same question for a long time, but apparently it is advantageous for someone to call the people who have chosen Bandera as the heroes of the fascist henchman, "brotherly ..."

[LSA57]

Quote: taiga2018

the people who chose Bandera as the heroes of the fascist henchman are "fraternal.

Are you sure the people chose?

[taiga2018]

Quote: LSA57

Are you sure the people chose?

I’m sure that they wouldn’t say there, but even today's Ukraine is not the DPRK, but they choose their leadership, which means that it was the people who chose those who promote the heroes of fascist henchmen, and therefore bear full responsibility for this ...

[mlad]

not so simple, people who weren’t acceptable were simply not allowed to vote

[dgonni]

Is it hard to enter the wiki? And stupid to see where Bandera was during the Second World War! And who only feeds you Olginsky?

[Sarmat Sanych]

That there is trade, gidnyuki are also going to farm herds in Russia, more than 5 million ukrogasters are already working here. Here's how it in their enameled heads is consistent with "Russian aggression", I can't imagine.

[igorbrsv]

These "ukrogaster" are the most adequate people of Ukraine. They have nothing to eat. Why cut them now for this chtoli?
I mean, I realized that you just stated a fact. I wrote about cutting it so that everyone thinks before offering something

[Sarmat Sanych]

I have seen quite a few of these "most adequate" visitors, so your remark is not in the subject. Let these "adequate" (as well as gastras from other republics) be overthrown in their independent power and not sent from the "ahresor country" to their homeland, we have enough of our unemployed, you see, employers will start paying decently for lack of alternatives to domestic builders.

[igorbrsv]

So I think so. It is necessary to somehow restrict work activities, and not to ban entry

[Skay]

stop railway communication with Russia

It seems that there was already one in the dup ... a shot blocker?

[friend of animals]

That is, Russia has more than effective levers of pressure on Ukraine, but they are not used. Everyone is trying to make friends.

[Sadko88]

No, they won’t close it. Poland is not rubber. The tanker in Kherson is not clear why the owners sent. Knowing what's under sanctions. If you block, then all ports are needed.

PS. Concrete products, as in the photo of the article, I saw in a lot around the sea pier "Swallow's Nest" this summer

[igorbrsv]

It’s better not to block, but to boycott. If, in spite of this, he himself sailed there, then let them climb out themselves. Exactly what they know that they may not return, but climb

[LSA57]

Quote: Sadko88

The tanker in Kherson is not clear why the owners sent.

there is such a thing as "Contract"
Failure promises huge fines

[Sadko88]

And there is such a concept - force majeure. If the driver's rights are taken away, another is hired. So
and here. What is the value of the contract if it exceeds the cost of losing the ship and all the hemorrhoids associated with it?

[LSA57]

Quote: Sadko88

What is the value of the contract if it exceeds the cost of losing the ship and all the hemorrhoids associated with it?

well, we are not given to know about this
apparently the shipowner knew what he was doing and did not expect such a development.

If the driver's rights are taken away, another is hired.

for the price of course the same.

[bessmertniy]

Closing the border between Ukraine and Russia, travel bans, etc. is unlikely to eliminate economic relations. Migrant workers and smugglers will dig tunnels no worse than the Arabs of the Gaza Strip did at one time, connecting them with Egypt and Israel.

[LSA57]

Quote: bessmertniy

Migrant workers and smugglers will dig tunnels no worse than the Arabs of the Gaza Strip did at one time,

yes striped how many are already trying to fence themselves off from mexico

[Moskovit]

Until SP-2 is built, Russia will not take serious action.

[100500]

Quote: Moskovit

While SP-2 is not built

Surely, at the mere thought that the construction of the SP-2 is going on as planned and that it will eventually be built by the management of the independent one, it experiences wild anal pain ....

[Altona]

It seems that the people are bleeding, and the business as it went and goes. In the normal way, the establishment of people's power both here and in / in Ukraine suggests itself. Put them all together, rulers, and let them fight at least until they turn blue, like spiders in a bank.

[rotmistr60]

In words and crying in front of Europe, they have been waging a "bloody war with the aggressor" for many years, but in fact they also manage to earn money. Rather, "SP-2" would be launched, a bypass railway has already been built, and probably a visa regime would not hurt.

[igorbrsv]

Quote: Megatron

I have another question, why WE do not close the border and allow their goods to our market? Where is the visa regime? Maybe it's enough to already broadcast about the "brotherly people"?

Because the goods are not bad and we need them. No need to spite frostbite your ears. Migrant workers are another matter, but to ban entry means to separate millions of relatives of each other. What is needed is adequate action. We are not frostbitten

[Moskovit]

What is so good there? Cheap, yes. We worked with Ukraine before the events. Eternal problems. Psychology of Seluk

[g1washntwn]

to ban entry means to separate millions of relatives of each other

It sounds somehow illogical. Well, let's say I don't take into account those who have found their love in a neighboring state, but if we restrict entry to the bulk of "Zrobitchans", how many, on the contrary, will reunite with the family and start to do it with children, and these are working hands, taxpayers and the electorate ... On the other hand, the current government wants to make its borders there according to the principle of one-sided electrical conductivity - everything that is possible to Ukraine, and from there - nothing (literally - according to the functionality of the mouth of Patsyuk and dumplings).

[igorbrsv]

I meant not only close relatives. Suppose an elderly grandmother who does not want to leave her native land and die in her homeland

[AVGUST]

I was pleased with the one-way conductivity, it’s like to put a Schottky diode, or Wynn bridge .......

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: igorbrsv

Because the goods are not bad and we need them

I also heard about the "quality" of Ukrainian goods, and last winter I bought a frying pan "Biol". And just recently, I was surprised to find chipped Teflon coating on a pan, although I always use a wooden spatula when using dishes with a non-stick coating. The frying pan, by the way, was not cheap, about 2,5 rubles. Ugh! Fuck, I'll buy Ukrainian goods later.

[igorbrsv]

But for some reason you bought it. I do not exclude that the manager of course could vparit

[igorbrsv]

There are also machines and appliances besides pans

[Kot_Kuzya]

No, I bought a frying pan in a hypermarket where there are no managers. It’s just that my previous pan was small, and I needed a larger pan. By the way, this small frying pan has been plowing for 4 years already, I fry eggs on it, meat sauce for pasta and spaghetti, I cook pilaf, in general, this frying pan does not stand idle with me. And for these 4 years not a single chip! Moreover, a pan made in Russia. And then the devil pulled me to buy a Ukrainian pan. Apparently, it played here that I had previously bought Ukrainian products, and they were very good. Well, so I decided that since the products are good, then the manufactured goods are also, apparently, of high quality. And here is such a bummer.

[Fedorov]

In Ukraine they are not made. This is either China or Turkey. Just a representative office in Ukraine is possible. , and on the label you can stamp that wander into your head.

[Kot_Kuzya]

And the label said: "Made in Ukraine". By the way, isn't Biol a Ukrainian brand?

[AID.S]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

I also heard about the "quality" of Ukrainian goods, and last winter I bought a frying pan "Biol". And just recently, I was surprised to find chips on the pan ... The frying pan, by the way, was not cheap, about 2,5 rubles. Ugh!

Definitely
- This is Ukrainian overpower, they deceived the achressor, after all!

[Kot_Kuzya]

If so, then yes, Peremoga. Only this peremoga turned into a hail, as always happens with them. Fuck I'll buy ukrotovy goods now.

[Avior]

oh well, I guess the wife with a neighbor caught; here are the chips on teflon and dents in the pan, honestly admit

[Megatron]

We will manage perfectly well without their goods, but they will not be without a sales market.

[mitchhunter]

Don't feel sorry for them. Prohibit the entry of guest workers from Ukraine, there will be jobs for their own. At the same time, then the Ukrainians themselves will take Poroshenko out of his office and will "lustrate" into the trash can

[igorbrsv]

They do not enter visas with labor visas anyway. It is enough just to introduce a visa regime and a ban on transferring money to Ukraine is not legal for everyone. persons. A visa for a couple of weeks to issue

[military pensioner]

To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear? Nothing personal, it's just business.
So Novorossia will soon be sold by the Russian authorities to the Ukrainian fascists ...

[NKT]

At the same time, Ukraine has banned entry for male Russian citizens aged 18 to 60, to which the Russian Federation has not yet responded in a mirror, and therefore hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian migrant workers continue to easily cross borders either in the Russian or the Ukrainian direction, taking them out of RF billions of dollars.

At the same time, some of them shout slogans Glory to Ukraine and Crimea - this is Ukraine, and then silently picking up their bags they go on a flight to Nadym or Novy Urengoy.

[XXXIII]

Such a "war": the Russian Federation has strengthened in first place among the trading partners of Ukraine

Yes, let it continue to fight .... .... This year it’s also necessary to repay the loan next year, with such trade Ukraine will be sold to Russia as real estate, and people will get it as a bonus, western partners will help those who are not ....

[igorbrsv]

Although let the creditors keep the western part, otherwise we are tormented to rebuild

[Megatron]

Country 404 reminds me of the "decaying west", every year our urakryaks yell that "Ukrainians will freeze this year", declare a default, fall apart, etc., but the Bandera patient is alive and does not blow his mustache.

[rus-5819]

And what generally country-hohlina trades with the Russian Federation?

Vovk declares that "if there is already a war, then the border must be completely closed."

But so that denyushka would regularly "drip" across the border and preferably directly into the wolf's pocket

At the same time, Ukraine has banned entry for male Russian citizens aged 18 to 60, to which the Russian Federation has not yet responded in a mirror, and therefore hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian guest workers continue to easily cross borders in the Russian or the Ukrainian direction, exporting billions of dollars from Russia.

Once 404 declared war, it is urgently necessary to take all the "guests" into captivity, to form a "Wagtail's army" out of them and send them to Nadia to release them from the prison. (Well, if a hundred or two "Natsiks" they batter their faces along the way, then it doesn't matter)

[Krasnodar]

With all due respect to the people living in Ukraine, nobody but Russia needs them. By virtue of long-standing economic, historically established ties. Before the competition in the EU market, where they so strive, Ukrainians have yet to go a long and difficult path, associated primarily with a change in the mentality of the population.

[Clyde barrow]

Some kind of nonsense, on the contrary it is necessary to lure more Ukrainians to us, in connection with the closure of enterprises, many highly qualified personnel can be lured, they certainly will not be superfluous. Moreover, this is the Slavic population, if they stay here, then after 1-2 generations they will forget and will not distinguish it from the Russian)

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Clyde Barrow

In addition, this Slavic population, if they stay here, then after 1-2 generations they will forget and will not distinguish it from the Russian

Nonsense. Bendera will always remain Bendera. Stalin stepped on the same rake three times when he gave amnesty to Bender, Khrushchev, when he had mercy on Bender and began to resettle them throughout Ukraine, and Brezhnev, when Bender crimes were hushed up, in particular, Bender’s service in punitive battalions, and then that Khatyn was burned by Ukrainians, not Germans. And now you offer the fourth time to step on the same rake! No thanks! Bendera must be ruthlessly destroyed! Bendera is not people, but rabid creatures, the last of Hitler. Good Bender - Dead Bender!

[Megatron]

Khrushchev - was himself a hidden Bandera. It is a pity Stalin did not have time to lime them all.

[Altona]

Quote: taiga2018

I have been asking myself the same question for a long time, but apparently it is advantageous for someone to call the people who have chosen Bandera as the heroes of the fascist henchman, "brotherly ..."

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The people of Ukraine are for the most part heterogeneous and multinational. Don't forget. that the left bank of the Dnieper is in fact the Russians. The Bandera cult is preached by the western regions. In 2014, no one in the Russian establishment wanted to tackle the Ukrainian problem closely, instead there were assurances of "territorial integrity", although Crimea was separated by a referendum. Minsk tried to seal up the rest of the problems. Until the dismantling of Ukraine is carried out, all this will continue. The only problem is that liberal policy generally presupposes the dismantling of states, and this problem is urgent for Russia too. In the topic about the transfer of the capital, this was discussed.

[Antares]

a possible option for a complete boycott of Ukrainian ports by shipowners. According to preliminary estimates, a boycott of Ukrainian ports in the Black and Azov Seas could lead to the loss of the Ukrainian economy up to 2% of GDP annually.

Is it about Russian? So they rarely come in and mostly leave normally. The cases of arrest are rare and everyone knows (and for that it’s also clear)
If it’s about international, then this is understandable crazy. Nobody was going to boycott the main sea gate of Ukraine. They are safer than the Azov gates, and accessibility is better.

At the same time, Ukraine has banned entry for male Russian citizens aged 18 to 60, to which the Russian Federation has not yet responded in a mirror,

Here's the game ... Men have more demands, you need an invitation from the Ukrainians. Women cross freely, and men ask for an invitation. Well, it is clear that the active army and other servicemen will not receive permission (and this is better than being an "GRU Agent" caught somewhere in Ukraine)
One and a half million Russians who visited Ukraine in 2017 cannot be only women.

exporting billions of dollars from Russia

here I will reassure the Russians. Long ago began the reduction of that money from the Ukrainians to Ukraine from the Russian Federation. What is the total. Well, it has become more profitable to work in the EU than in the Russian Federation, even despite the language barrier. All the same, life in the Russian Federation has become more expensive and less paid. And just dangerous at times (partners also catch "Ukrainian saboteurs with a saw")
Well, the very meaning of the article.
Here is 2017
The TOP 5 largest trading partners of Ukraine in the export of goods included: countries of the European Union (39,8%); Russian Federation (9,4%); Turkey (6,1%); India (5,5%); Egypt (5,3%) ",
That's what our media write

Despite all mutual threats and insults, Russia has been and remains Ukraine's main trade partner this year. Ukraine's exports to Russia in the first quarter of 2018 amounted to $ 853 million, which is 8% less than in the first quarter of 2017. But on the other hand, imports from Russia to Ukraine in the 2018st quarter of 28 grew by 2017% compared to the XNUMXst quarter of XNUMX. Paradox? No, not a paradox, but coal and chemical products. Ukraine this year actively purchased coal and chemical products from Russia, as well as engineering products, but not so actively. So it turns out that according to the words of our and Russian politicians, the Russian Federation is the aggressor and the main enemy for Ukraine, and according to business processes, which are often associated with representatives of the Ukrainian and Russian authorities, and at the same time Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs, money loves an account. Policy separately, and income separately. For Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, trade has been and will be profitable. They worked and will continue to work, and even increase the volume of transactions, but Ukrainian and Russian politicians will continue to scare the Ukrainian and Russian peoples with "bad uncles", but the money will still go into the hands of Ukrainian and Russian politicians.

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[NF68]

If you stop all economic ties between Ukraine and Russia, then Ukraine will generally be bent.