The new VAT will drag up utilities rates. Sneaky State Department ...

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The US sanctions-duty policy leads to a slowdown in the growth rate of the Chinese economy. After the start of the so-called duty war between the United States and China, the growth rate of industrial production in the PRC for the first time in several years turned out to be lower than the forecasts previously made by economists. The “shortage” is still relatively small - 6%, together with the previously predicted 6,3%, and it seems that we would have their problems, but experts predict that this negative trend may eventually come to Russia. Also reported a slowdown in Chinese retail sales growth for the month - 8,8% instead of 9,1% previously predicted. At the same time, for the first time in several years, the unemployment rate in the PRC jumped: July 5,1% instead of 4,8% in June.

Against this background, the Russian economic model, along with its helmsmen, continues to search for its “points of growth”. At the same time, the growth in the Russian version is much more modest than in the voiced Chinese. Forecasts for 2018 year - an increase of no more than 1,8%. In this case, the budget must be filled. Against this background, manna from heaven is in the form of relatively expensive oil (today Brent is trading above 73 dollars per barrel) and the newly increased dollar exchange rate in relation to the Russian national currency. The course settled in the area 67-68 rubles to the dollar. In the morning of Tuesday, I’ve slightly lowered below 67.



The new VAT will drag up utilities rates. Sneaky State Department ...


At this very moment, the Ministry of Economic Development decided to please the Russians with the fact that in 2019, all of us are expected to increase utility tariffs in several stages. If initially it was stated that the VAT increase “will not affect the prices in any way”, now it is the VAT increase that has been declared the reason for the future growth of utility tariffs.

From the material RBC:
To raise the tariffs already from January 1 was asked by the association “Housing and Communal Services and the Urban Environment”. It said that with a VAT increase, housing and utilities organizations that provide consumers with services on 4,5 trillion rubles will have direct losses in the first half of the year in 45 billion rubles.

The Ministry of Economic Development proposes to partially increase the tariffs from 1 in January of the future - by 1,7%, the “rest” - traditionally from July 1.

So is it possible that the government “lied” about the fact that raising the VAT bar on price increases will have no effect? ​​.. Although there is a possibility of an explanation from economists, that all this is “because of the US-China trade war.”
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  1. +52
    14 August 2018 12: 14
    Well, who would have thought! This has never happened, and here again.
    Did someone naively believe that raising VAT will not affect prices in any way?
    Did anyone naively believe that choosing something to change GDP?
    Where are you naive citizens?
    1. -39
      14 August 2018 12: 20
      Quote: Warlock_r
      Did anyone naively believe that choosing something to change GDP?

      you had to vote for the horse?
      1. +38
        14 August 2018 12: 26
        it’s because of people like you and the other 75 percent that we have what we are and you are still making yourself the god of sarcasm.
        1. +14
          14 August 2018 12: 29
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          you had to vote for the horse?

          There were other candidates for the protest vote.
          Quote: Heterocapsa
          here because of people like you and other xnumx percent

          What are you mentioning about 75%, it seems that everyone knows how these votes are calculated and the final result is formed ..
          1. +43
            14 August 2018 12: 34
            What is interesting: the next May decrees are not manifested in their implementation, but in the promotion of ever new taxes, which are justified by referring to the need for their introduction to implement those same decrees. One gets the impression that these decrees exist only for the validity of new taxes ... And the decrees themselves are not feasible in the future, due to lack of money. But taxes will be collected!

            Those. Decrees are adapted to the need for taxes, and not vice versa! We can assume that there is only one decree - to replenish the budget ... But how? - This is already a little punctuation!
            1. +23
              14 August 2018 13: 12
              Forecasts for 2018 - an increase of no more than 1,8%.

              Forecasts for 2017 didn’t come true either, they predicted 2,5%, but it turned out 1,5%, so it seems? Correct who owns the numbers. Therefore, the figure of 1,8%, also likely to have to adjust.
              against this background - manna from heaven in the form of relatively expensive oil (today Brent is trading above 73 dollars per barrel) and the newly increased dollar against the Russian national currency. The course settled in the region of 67-68 rubles per dollar

              But this is just disgusting! With such expensive oil, the ruble should strengthen, not grow. Why rob the population like that? Moreover, the budget has become surplus! There is enough money even for retirement (Putin's words!). But, the population is sheared, like sheep, if not from that end, so from this.
              1. +38
                14 August 2018 13: 24
                Ha! Shearing ... it would be wonderful ... skinning ... pieces ... with the meat ...
                1. +8
                  14 August 2018 14: 33
                  Quote: Stas157
                  With such expensive oil, the ruble should strengthen, not grow. Why rob the population like that? Moreover, the budget has become surplus! There is enough money even for retirement (Putin's words!). But, the population is sheared, like sheep, if not from that end, so from this.

                  It's all about the Budget Rule, which was introduced in the Russian Federation by Kudrin at the request of the IMF, Kakda Kudrin was the Minister of Finance.
                  Abstractly, the essence of the Budget Rule is as follows.
                  The country's next year’s budget is generated from oil and gas revenues for the current year.
                  Assume that the price of oil per barrel in 2016 was $ 40. The country's budget for the 2017 year was compiled by the Ministry of Finance on the basis of the calculation of $ 40 in the 2016 year. If next year the price rose to $ 70. That Budget Rule assumes that the excess profits of the budget surplus received from the price difference 70-40 = $ 30 go to the Reserve Fund of Russia, which is located in foreign banks, primarily the US Federal Reserve.
                  As a result, nothing changes with the increase in oil prices in the Russian Federation, and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, together with the Russian Ministry of Finance, feeds its geopolitical enemies: the United States and Great Britain. etc.
                  At the same time, the United States is developing its economy and, above all, its military-industrial complex, and the Russian Federation is forced to collect more and more extensive and high taxes in order to counter the American military-industrial complex.
                  If next year the price of oil falls, for example, to $ 50, then the budget will be planned with a deficit at the rate of 50-70 = - $ 20 per barrel. The drawback is taken from the Reserve Fund, but not all - and again, with fear, they raise taxes.
                  But since the surplus just lay for the Russian Federation in a foreign bank, and was not invested in the development of the Russian economy, it is natural that nothing changes in the Russian economy from year to year. The country's economic opportunities are melting - and Russia is getting into the "oil needle", turning into a raw material appendage of developed capitalist countries and squandering its raw materials for nothing.
                  The Central Bank of Russia, headed by Nabiulina, takes an active part in this robbery, according to the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia", which was written for the USSR / RF by CIA agents and does not allow the Central Bank of Russia to invest money directly into the Russian economy.

                  The income of the chairman of the Central Bank of Russia Elvira Nabiullina in 2017 increased by 25% in the year XNUMX%, media reported citing a declaration posted on the website of the Moscow City Duma by the husband of the head of the Central Bank, rector of the Higher School of Economics (HSE) Yaroslav Kuzmin.
                  During the year, Nabiullina, Honored Economist of Russia and holder of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, IV degree, earned 33,8 million rubles, or $ 590 (at an average rate of 000 rubles per dollar).
                  The revenues of Nabiullina (who was named the best central banker of the world in 2015 according to Euromoney magazine) turned out to be almost 3 times higher than the earnings of her colleague, the head of the US Federal Reserve Janet Yellen.
                  Yellen, who retired after four years at the head of the US Federal Reserve, earned $ 2017 199 in the year 700.
                  См. - http://news.glavnoe.io/news/8877-eksperty-porazheny-sravnili-zarplaty-nabiullinoi-i.html?fpr=7654&from=preview&utm_campaign=2582&utm_content=1788875&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=11506

                  So the millionaire Nabiulina, a supporter of Kudrin, is quite happy with everything in Russia. The only question is, where does she herself keep her capital?
                  1. +6
                    14 August 2018 14: 57
                    The candidacy for the post of chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in the State Duma is submitted by the president.
                  2. 0
                    14 August 2018 15: 04
                    Tatyana
                    "It's all about the Budget Rule, which was introduced in the Russian Federation by Kudrin at the request of the IMFhow Kudrin was finance minister "

                    I didn’t understand something, are we going to be in debtors - defaulters at the IMF? What right do they have to dictate to us? Or are we a book republic?
                    1. +7
                      14 August 2018 16: 34
                      Quote: voffchik7691
                      I didn’t understand something, are we going to be in debtors - defaulters at the IMF? What right do they have to dictate to us? Or are we a book republic?

                      To put it mildly, under the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the national sovereignty of the Russian Federation is limited in favor of foreign law, which are written and are being written by the capitalist powers in their favor against the so-called colonially dependent ones. developing countries, to which they include the Russian Federation. The history of the enslavement of Russia by the financial oligarchy of the US Federal Reserve is as follows.

                      After ratification of the Bialowieza Accords, Russia turned into a colony of a unipolar world led by Washington. One of the most important instruments for managing Russia as a colony was the new credit and financial system (CFS) of Russia.
                      On 20 of December 1991, the State Bank of the USSR was abolished. All assets, liabilities and property of the USSR State Bank on the territory of the RSFSR were transferred to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. A few months later, the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia) was renamed the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia).
                      The very first version of the law "On the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia)" was adopted on December 2 of 1990 of the year, after Yeltsin B.N. by a huge margin, he won the election and became the first president of Russia, and after six months of his presidency he signed Federal Law No. 1990-02.12.1990 of 394. The law was modified and supplemented, but in general its essence was preserved.
                      The betrayal of the national sovereignty of the Russian Federation in the field of finance was laid down and reinforced in its very Constitution of the Russian Federation of December 12 1993, which was compiled under the EBN under the patronage of Washington.
                      Officially, the authors of this colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation from the 1993 of the year were: Sergei Shakhrai, Anatoly Sobchak, Sergey Sergeyevich Alekseev and the Constitutional Meeting of the Russian Federation.
                      The Constitution of the Russian Federation from 1993 of the year only consolidated the colonial position of the Russian Federation in this matter.
                      Constitution of the Russian Federation Article 15:
                      4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
                      If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply.
                      Those. if the Central Bank in Russia is offended by a bad Government, it goes somewhere “beyond the hill” and begins to complain to the international court there. And the international court of law takes precedence over our Russian one.

                      As a result, we have colonial legislation in the country, which, it seems, is impossible under comprador power to abolish in any way peacefully.
                      1. +3
                        14 August 2018 17: 05
                        Quote: voffchik7691
                        I didn’t understand something, are we going to be in debtors - defaulters at the IMF? What right do they have to dictate to us? Or are we a book republic?

                        The VO website has already dealt with the issue of the Budget Rule in detail. Look at the article on "VO" "Pure Betrayal: Russia Openly Funds the US Army" from 18 January 2018 -
                        https://topwar.ru/134053-chistoe-predatelstvo-rossiya-otkryto-finansiruet-armiyu-ssha.html#comment
                        There, as an analytical analysis of the situation in the country, this video is presented, which for understanding it makes sense to watch it to the end.
                        In the comments of the participants there are also my comments. You will see them.

                        A sharp increase in capital outflows from Russia. Posted: 17 Jan 2018 of the year.
                    2. +3
                      15 August 2018 06: 58
                      Quote: voffchik7691
                      I didn’t understand something, are we going to be in debtors - defaulters at the IMF? What right do they have to dictate to us? Or are we a book republic?

                      When the Russian Federation in 1992 was just entering the WTO, the country was introduced natural duty (export duty).
                      We export to the Russian Federation. the duty was systemically built. It was unique in the world and a very positive experiment in the extraction of natural rent, not at all, but from that part of the natural resources that are exported from our natural resources.
                      We exported not only oil and gas, but also metals, chemicals. raw materials, round wood, etc., and the Ministry of Finance meticulously calculated what proportion of exp. duties sits in folk resources. The export duty was tied to materialized energy, realizing that the price of metal is the same natural rent, because at 80% metal is materialized energy, which is made from the same gas. As a result, we export 2 / 3 oil and gas, and for some items 90% of resources.
                      T.O., introducing a natural duty, we seized natural rents for mining, which belong to the people, and with this we kept domestic prices fenced off from world prices. Moreover, according to the laws of the market, the domestic price was formed as the world price “minus” the export duty. The higher the export duty, the lower the domestic price.
                      22 August 2012, Russia became a full member of the World Trade Organization (WTO)
                      When the Russian Federation joins the WTO in 2012, the Russian government - lobbying Americans and Europeans - this
                      the natural duty was canceled and replaced by a mineral extraction tax (MET), i.e. in its pure form consumer tax. At the same time, the price of a resource is determined by the price of the resource of the worst field, to which a mineral extraction tax is added. And since, in theory, everyone pays tax, this further increases the selling price in both the domestic and foreign markets.
                      This was felt by Russian consumers. Oil prices have risen, the ruble is worth it, Russian consumers have begun to pay more. The country accelerates inflation.

                      TOTAL Thus, natural rent under the WTO pricing system turned out to be “donated” by the Russian government to offshore oligarchs, and became their financial private property.
                      This is a wrecking stranglehold that was thrown by the legislative branch on our economy, because the people who made this decision when joining the WTO agreed idioticly, from the point of view of international law, on the demanding abolition of export duties for our financial and price system in the energy sector. Without canceling the severance tax, the government is trying to reduce excise taxes, i.e., to save on social welfare and the economic development of the country by reducing state budget revenues. From here the legs of the government pension reform are growing to increase the retirement age for old age from 55 / 60 to 63 / 65 years.
                      We must abandon the tax — abolish this mineral extraction tax altogether — and shift the entire burden of taxes on the export duty, and turn the “Budget Rule” into the “Development Budget”. For the beneficiary of the whole system is the Americans, because all this money, which is collected according to the Budget Rule for oil and mineral extraction tax, forms the Stabilization Funds of the Russian Federation, which are invested by the Central Bank of Russia in AMERICAN debt obligations.
                      1. +1
                        15 August 2018 13: 58
                        Dear Tatyana explained everything quite fully and intelligibly. It couldn't be better! I would like to add a little, regarding the fact that income from the sale of resources (mainly oil and gas) did not go to the budget in full, but as a customs payment. This is approximately 53% of the amount received from their sale. Well, I think this is understandable, this is how private individuals sell resources. And as is known at different times in quantitative terms there. payments ranged from 40 to 50 %% of the budget collection. Those. not less than 40% of the received sums went into the pockets of a narrow circle of people and actually ... in general there. It is difficult to imagine the magnitude of these amounts, as everyone understands, this money did not remain in the country, but was withdrawn to offshores, placed in foreign banks, invested in the economy of Western countries, etc. In addition, around 2012, the government decided to channel all funds (customs payments for oil and gas) to funds placed abroad. No more than 10% remained in the budget, which is indirectly confirmed by the fact that the amount of budget receipts from the Federal Tax Service began to exceed the FCS. And the transparency of financial schemes in the country, which allegedly appeared more and more in the country, does not explain such successes of the tax service. Just customs payments from the moment they were received were not displayed in the statistics of the FCS. Information about this is freely available. Those. what we have, an additional shortage of money was artificially created in the country, which was already correlated with the amount of money received from the sale of dollar resources. Hence the wild interest rates in banks for both individuals and legal entities, the impossibility of normal functioning of small and medium-sized businesses, etc. etc. On the other hand, a small group of people (and not the smartest and not the most decent ones) had wild money on their hands! Where did they start to put them? But they started there, and everyone can look for scandals associated with Russian oligarchs, everything is in plain sight. In short, it is possible that in the future some researchers will be surprised for a long time unraveling cunning schemes for taking money away from naive Russians and the emergence of crazy projects for this stolen money). Apparently, the attacks of the Western Caudle on the Russian "elite" and accusations of their mafia may have very real grounds. The problem is that this ... group of Russian citizens (are they Russian?), Some of whom hold very serious, and some of the top posts in the Russian Federation in general, are not going to leave, but quite the opposite, quite seriously decided that they are "chosen" and are ready to defend their capital. And they are right in their own way! Since all the power of the country, which they got for free, completely belongs to them, incl. these monkeys control nuclear weapons! Moreover, the people believe them! And I am ready to go under the machine guns defending them, I will not say criminal, no, interests incomprehensible to anyone. How will it end? And the hell knows!
                      2. 0
                        15 August 2018 15: 26
                        DVTamga (Alexander)
                        Dear Tatyana very fully and intelligibly explained everything. You can’t say better! I want to add a little
                        Dear Alexander! Thank you for the addition. You're right. But I don’t quite understand everything. Was the customs payment (customs duty) for oil and gas equal to natural rent equal to the export duty? Those. until 2012 year? I understood you correctly?
                        But how are the price of oil and gas combined when crossing the Russian border? Is there any customs duty, or is everything absolutely everything in the price? Why claims against the Russian Federation by Ukraine at bargain prices for these products?
                  3. -1
                    14 August 2018 15: 49
                    What does it mean to raise taxes again?
                  4. +3
                    14 August 2018 18: 48
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The only question is, where does she herself keep her capital?

                    in USA
            2. +3
              14 August 2018 15: 31
              And the decrees themselves are not feasible in the future, due to lack of money. But taxes will be collected!

              And what did you want, Buddy! hi
              Political surrealism, a combination of paradoxes and illusions, is marching around the country in full swing. what
          2. +14
            14 August 2018 13: 39
            everyone knows, but they also vote, there are those who have been beaten to the head for this. And at our enterprise, holidays were simply canceled !!! who doesn’t like the way goes beyond the gates like this ... this is the breakthrough that Vova promised apparently began.
            1. +3
              14 August 2018 14: 00
              Quote: Heterocapsa
              just canceled the holidays !!!
              Administration is in trend. Before canceling well-deserved holidays, it is logical to cancel the next.
            2. +2
              14 August 2018 14: 17
              Quote: Heterocapsa
              And our company just canceled the holidays !!!

              It's funny Normal people turn to a lawyer or immediately to the prosecutor. And not incognito about a certain indefinite enterprise on a non-core site.
              Or indicate the company specifically.
              1. +8
                14 August 2018 14: 44
                can you still lay out all corporate secrets with names and passwords? just NORMAL PEOPLE should understand the reasons for not disseminating information on a non-core site. But this is not about you.
              2. +5
                14 August 2018 15: 23
                Funny.

                Broadcasting about it is funny .... And being "overboard" is not funny ?!
                Where do you live, Dear? In which fairyland?
                We have people without arms and legs at the factories ... and no one "sits" ... That's "Funny" !!!
                And you say - VACATION ... crying
        2. +4
          14 August 2018 15: 39
          here because of people like you and other xnumx percent

          Well, it's not a secret for anyone what kind of pressure came from above on the wrong indicators. all managers (hospitals, institutes, enterprises ...) were personally responsible for the "correct vote". and managers have already pressed on employees and so on along the chain. video shariya remember how in the Crimean hospital the granny was discharged from the hospital for not wanting to go to vote. Here we have such "democratic" elections the system has created.
        3. -2
          15 August 2018 05: 23
          Heterocapsa If it were my will and 75% of others, like you, you would build roads in Kolyma - and it’s a good thing, and you won’t bother with nagging
      2. SSR
        +3
        14 August 2018 15: 57
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Warlock_r
        Did anyone naively believe that choosing something to change GDP?

        you had to vote for the horse?

        That's what is strange.
        At the word Russia in the US State Department, our shares fall and start hanging loose, as if there were no 2008 and 2014, and at the same time, when the "war" between the largest trading partners began, the yuan and other indicators are fantastic.

        Shortage ”is still relatively small - 6% together previously projected 6,3%, and it seems that we would have their problems, but experts predict that this negative trend may eventually reach Russia. It also reports a slowdown in Chinese retail sales growth for the month - 8,8% instead of 9,1%

        How can our "boat" learn to keep the blows like that?
        I am without swearing and banter, just thinking out loud.
    2. -9
      14 August 2018 12: 22
      Quote: Warlock_r
      Did anyone naively believe that choosing something to change GDP?

      it's you strange ..... you write that it doesn’t change under Putin and then say that the tariffs change !!, you decide who you are and where you are ..... or can you write anything just for the first post?
    3. +15
      14 August 2018 12: 22
      Quote: Warlock_r
      Where are you naive citizens?

      The latter died out after the presidential election. It was not surprising. It has long been accustomed to being like gasoline, it always grows in price, despite the cost of a barrel and a wind rose in May.
      1. +31
        14 August 2018 13: 08
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Long used to, it's like with gasoline, it always grows in price, despite the cost of a barrel

        Gasoline has risen in price due to more expensive transportation of gasoline due to higher prices for gasoline. recourse
        1. +17
          14 August 2018 13: 34
          That's all so surprised, high gas prices, taxes, retirement age. And what do you want from the oligarchs and their representative of GDP, worthy of life? Their main task is not to lose themselves, but to spit on the people.
        2. +2
          14 August 2018 17: 15
          Quote: helmi8
          Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
          Long used to, it's like with gasoline, it always grows in price, despite the cost of a barrel

          Gasoline has risen in price due to more expensive transportation of gasoline due to higher prices for gasoline. recourse



          ... for transporting gasoline wassat
      2. +3
        14 August 2018 14: 35
        Yes there is more. Belief in the king’s priest will always be, in the end, the electoral commission will help.
  2. +7
    14 August 2018 12: 21
    Instead of 1,18, multiply by 1,2 - a HUGE problem. And since we buy the necessary things not from us more, we also need to add a rate change to the price! Life has become better, life has become happier winked
  3. +1
    14 August 2018 12: 24
    For the author -
    Do you wash the jars of YOGHURT before throwing it away?
    In our Far East, we have decided or are already building a plant for processing plastic waste!
    In an interview, the future director of the plant said - "The main source of raw materials is JAPAN." Well, we will get a little home ...
    Almost ALL plastic is sorted in Japan, and they are trying to collect plastic bottles and eggplants from us!
    And jars of yogurt and similar products in containers for collecting plastic bottles and eggplants are NOT PRESCRIBED ...
    And we do not pay for the removal of construction waste during apartment renovations - we simply take them to the container site!
    And the private sectors - they just store the garbage (having debts) in heaps - then they will come and take away for free ...
    The housing and utilities sector is full of problems (he started in 1999 in the housing department with a simple electrician) - but I still do not see solutions to these problems ...
    1. +11
      14 August 2018 12: 33
      Quote: hohol95
      And we do not pay for the removal of construction waste during apartment renovations - we simply take them to the container site!

      for the whole of Russia I won’t say, but in my house a payment for a container for construction waste is required
      people with the manager regularly swear so that they can put their container, and not overpay for the one they impose ...

      And the private sectors - they just store the garbage (having debts) in heaps - then they will come and take away for free ...

      in DSC annually pay for the summer water supply and garbage collection ...
      1. 0
        14 August 2018 13: 05
        Yes, you are by our standards (Lipetsk) - UNICUM !!!
        Our private sector (of course, not all) does not pay for export and accumulates debts, while storing garbage in heaps.
        A commission passes from the mayor's office and orders these heaps to be removed ... free of charge for residents of this private sector.
        1. +2
          14 August 2018 15: 29
          I don’t think that the people in Lipetsk are fundamentally different from the suburbs
          if the service fee is adequate and there is money, then they will pay
          By the way, about the Lipetsk water utility - a friend’s apartment in Lipetsk, in which her son is registered, so the water utility billed the water during the guy’s military service, calculating the consumption according to the standards, and the mark on the military ticket for military service for them is never an argument ...
          1. +2
            14 August 2018 16: 10
            And the salaries of the Muscovites, what? Especially for those working in MOSCOW!
            We are far from Moscow, and the head of the region, Oleg Petrovich Korolev, ordered that the average earnings in the region not exceed 30 thousand rubles!
            And the counters in this apartment were? ATTORNEYS.
            It used to be that during the USSR, certificates from the village council or the army were suitable.
            In SPAIN, the neighbors knock on those who, in their opinion, are renting illegally housing only on the basis of the number of WET TOWELS on the balconies of their neighbors ...
            A fine of 40 thousand euros for the illegal rental of housing!
            And we have how much ... and when using water and electricity according to the TARIFF (or for the owner with the benefits of a Veteran of Labor or a disabled person for medicine)!
            29.06.2018
            The regional department of energy and tariffs reported that for residents of Lipetsk, a standard for “production” of rubbish garbage was set at 564 rubles 44 kopecks (including VAT) per cubic meter. And in the regional housing and communal services department they said that the standard for 2,04 cubic meters of municipal waste per year was set for residents of apartment buildings, and 3,28 cubic meters of garbage for residents of the private sector (the norms for the accumulation of garbage in the region were increased by an average of 40 by the regional housing and communal services department -45%, which officials attribute to increased consumption). Accordingly, we multiply these numbers by 564,44 and divide by 12. As a result, each resident of MKD will pay 95 rubles 95 kopecks per month for garbage (earlier GOROD48 assumed that the amount of 80 rubles would appear in the “garbage” receipt), and a resident of a private house - 154 rubles 28 kopecks.

            So here we are ...
        2. -3
          14 August 2018 17: 59
          No, he is not unique. It is necessary to answer first of all for yourself. I also pay regularly for everything. And I see how gradually everything is getting better. True, not without kicks. 1000km from the transport ring
    2. 0
      14 August 2018 15: 58
      We are exported from the private sector once a week. For a month I pay 130r. Previously, for a year they saved up a bunch, and then they hired a tractor for 1500r and he took it out.
      1. 0
        14 August 2018 16: 14
        You hired it and now pay! If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t write - the private sector does not pay (not all, but there are no payers), but by order of the city authorities, their heaps are taken out of the city’s budget!
      2. 0
        14 August 2018 19: 07
        Do you sort garbage?
  4. +18
    14 August 2018 12: 28
    The author is wrong, it is not the "State Department" to blame, it is "bulk and K". wink You know, I imagined (and I wrote here, for which I received warnings) before that in the "last" term "GDP" would break off the chain "and all those" unpopular "decisions invented by his friend Kudrey, as he said," to finally say goodbye to the Soviet legacy ", will be introduced, but I was a little mistaken - I did not think that they would all dump in one" heap "and would push it so brazenly and quickly. sad
    1. 0
      14 August 2018 15: 17
      Kind! And do not take on the position of DIRECTOR of the Management Company?
      Honest DIRECTOR!
      Knowing the economy, construction disciplines and standards (GOSTs and SNIPs), psychology for communicating with residents and leaders cities or towns, as well as all kinds of commissions from higher authorities and ministries!
      And do you promise not to hire or involve relatives or their company in the work?
      You promise not to give and DO NOT take kickbacks and bribes ???
      I am waiting for an answer ... from the breeder of Snails in 9 cages!
      1. SSR
        +1
        14 August 2018 16: 11
        Quote: hohol95
        Kind! And do not take on the position of DIRECTOR of the Management Company?
        Honest DIRECTOR!
        Knowing the economy, construction disciplines and standards (GOSTs and SNIPs), psychology for communicating with residents and leaders cities or towns, as well as all kinds of commissions from higher authorities and ministries!

        I'm sorry, I really laughed)))
        The residents of the house in which Brother lives, sued, fought but created their own HOA (as it is called), now they have such BEAUTY in the porch and the adjoining territory!
        An initiative group has been created by tenants in our 11 access house, which our Home Administration has trained so much that they probably now not only know about SNiPs and GOSTs.
        From the residents of the house, a lot depends on other areas of our lives.
        1. +1
          14 August 2018 16: 49
          And we have 12 access houses - managed by Management Companies. It’s good that you have tenants in 11 entrances CONSCIOUS and go ALL to the house committee meetings!
          Not everywhere like that ...
          Do you have separate containers for garbage collection - paper, metal, plastic?
          We only set plastic separately (not everywhere) and plastic is strictly limited - only plastic bottles and eggplant from drinks! Not any yogurt or perfume cups !!!
        2. 0
          14 August 2018 19: 11
          And the elevators in the house are checked ONCE A YEAR or ...?
          Or do you have a house without elevators?
          If there is a person in charge, has he been trained?
          Do you yourself enter into an AGREEMENT with a verification company or DO YOU RECOMMEND IT?
          On housing issues OH, how many ...
    2. +2
      14 August 2018 15: 59
      Quote: Snail N9
      in the "last" term, "GDP" will break off the chain "and all those" unpopular "solutions invented by his friend Kudrey, as he said," to finally say goodbye to the Soviet legacy ", will be introduced, but I was a little mistaken - I didn't think that everything would fall into one "heap" and will push it so brazenly and quickly.


      I don’t know about you, but many even before the election it was known that Putin held unpopular bills before his election.
  5. +6
    14 August 2018 12: 35
    Yesterday at RBC, experts voiced this topic. Dear Russians - at the expense of VAT, expect a price increase already in November-December 2018. And as for 2019, it is definitely a minus. 2020 - it seems that it may already be zero, but a government that is vigilant about the people can still wrap something else (in the morning I smear a sandwich - I’m thinking it’s like a people).
  6. +2
    14 August 2018 12: 37
    That's because, as I read, the 115 garbage truck drove thousand bucks in New York, and his assistant, one hundred thousand, got so fucked up. Ours then for 12 thousand wooden stick.
    1. BAI
      +10
      14 August 2018 13: 00
      $ 115 is a year. But $ 000 a month is certainly better than 10 rubles a month.
      1. +9
        14 August 2018 15: 53
        Read about US taxes. I think you will go nuts. Up to 28 thousand dollars PER PERSON (per year) - taxes are not paid at all. In addition, in the USA there is such an awesome feature like "discounts": this is not the same as in Russia, where products with an outgoing expiration date, in the basements of stores or in the "industrial zone" are repackaged or re-stuffed with the production time, no, in the USA, if before the expiration date remains 1 week, then the price drops by 2 times, in 3 days by 75% and so on. People who do not have money, in the same Wallmarket, are purchased when the expiration dates have already expired, at penniless prices. There is no such thing in Russia at all! In the United States, it's real to survive if you don't have a job or earn little money, but in Russia, no! In Russia, if you lose your job, then everything is ambitious, there is no help from the state, 45-60 dollars of the allowance will not be enough, even to pay the rent, not enough so that after 3 months of non-payment you will not be thrown out of the apartment, not to mention so that later, also not to die of hunger.
        1. +1
          15 August 2018 02: 34
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          In Russia, if I lost my job, then everything is ambits, there is no help from the state, 45-60 dollars will not be enough

          I lost my job. I went to the employment center, so they offered me 350 rubles. And the work of a plumber for 12 thousand
  7. +12
    14 August 2018 12: 37
    For them we are a resource, they will milk to the last.
    1. +4
      14 August 2018 15: 47
      Quote: 100502
      For them we are a resource, they will milk to the last.


      While we milk, they will milk
      1. +3
        14 August 2018 18: 25
        will not be milked?
        butting sholi?
        Nope ... at the meat-packing plant they will hand over the minced meat and all the short life! wassat
  8. +18
    14 August 2018 12: 39
    Collective Putin (the Medvedev government) continues to play tricks with the electorate and the further the more sophisticated. Already it seems like the State Department is to blame for the current plight of the Russian Federation, and the authorities are white and fluffy.
    It should be understood that Sobchak’s disciples still stand at the head of the country. And Sobchak is a dead end, which is getting closer and closer.
  9. +17
    14 August 2018 12: 44
    but wrote about it. but some wrote no ineligible.
    about VAT "Poverty Tax"
    "
    for the end customer there is no difference whether he pays VAT or sales tax - in any case, he pays it out of his own pocket. Look at any check - it shows VAT as a separate line.

    The greater part of a person’s earnings spent on VAT, the less he can save and save for a rainy day.

    For example, take two Russians:

    one receives 10 thousand rubles a month, he is poor;
    another has an income of one million rubles a month; he is rich.
    Suppose it is enough for a millionaire to spend "on life" only half of his income. On average, he will leave 500 thousand rubles in stores, of which VAT will be 100 thousand rubles. This is only 10% of his income.

    But a poor person barely survives from paycheck to paycheck and has to spend everything "on life". VAT on purchases of a poor person in absolute terms is relatively small - only 2 thousand. But in terms of income, everything is different. The poor will give the state at the end of the month 20% of his income or a fifth. Therefore, the tax burden for him is twice as high. And if the poor also take a loan, then he will pay not only from his current, but also from future income.

    In addition, a rich person is much more likely to evade paying VAT to the budget of his country than a poor person. For example, he can spend money on traveling and buying goods abroad (where, moreover, he will require a VAT refund, this is the name of VAT in most countries of the world). Not subject to value added tax transactions for the purchase of land and shares, as well as investments. "

    But for them with a salary of 320 this is really not noticeable. what people are outraged ??
  10. -1
    14 August 2018 12: 48
    Without the abolition of the shameful moratorium on the death penalty imposed on Russia by common people, various embezzlers and other enemies of the Russian people will continue to mock Russia
    1. +22
      14 August 2018 13: 11
      Without the abolition of the shameful moratorium on the death penalty imposed on Russia by common people, various embezzlers and other enemies of the Russian people will continue to mock Russia

      Do you seriously believe that lifting the moratorium on the death penalty will fix something?
      How many criminal cases were brought against the bumps from above? Vot, and you mean the "death penalty" ...
      If you remove the moratorium on the death penalty, then its abolition will affect only ordinary people who will be shot right and left. wink
      He posted a memo in VK - shooting.
      He posted a memo on HE - shooting.
      And so on ...
    2. +2
      14 August 2018 18: 27
      yep .. for a bag of potato from the rich man’s garden to the wall, and stolen millions for a raise!
      This is not the USSR
  11. +9
    14 August 2018 12: 53
    and not only housing and communal services will jump, almost everything! Life becomes more interesting and "more fun"
    1. +7
      14 August 2018 12: 58
      She's funny since 91, just noticed? People just don't make her easy, on the contrary, there will be nowhere to tighten their belts ... We haven’t "disappeared" yet, but we haven’t shouted "urya" for a long time ...
      1. 0
        14 August 2018 18: 28
        in 91 how they danced the maidan - so it all went to hell, well, nothing!
        and what is there in Ukraine then? wassat
        1. 0
          14 August 2018 19: 12
          Quote: Sergey Ippon
          in 91 how they danced the maidan - so it all went to hell, well, nothing!
          and what is there in Ukraine then? wassat

          and there is almost the same, only there is no gas of their own and oil, oligarchs on chocolate, on the ground and in the forest make fortunes, sell weapons, and pack in their pockets "help" from over the hill.
  12. 0
    14 August 2018 12: 58
    strange somehow: you put "+" - pops up "-", you put "-" - "+" appears. All statements against the authorities are rated "-".
    1. -14
      14 August 2018 13: 08
      You do not be surprised much. For the homeland and government, most readers of VO. Many in the service or at work are simple, so sometimes opposition comrades have + in the comments smile
    2. +10
      14 August 2018 14: 51
      A minus pops up with your plus just because while you are reading, someone has already managed to give their mark ... The already existing arithmetic mean shows you ...
  13. +3
    14 August 2018 13: 02
    Although there is a possibility of an explanation from the side of economists that this is all “due to the US-Chinese trade war.”

    I am not an economist, but the picture is generally visible. Yes, it wasn’t without the States, because our beloved public servants lost a lot of money, and it’s necessary to fill our pockets, for example at the expense of the state. budget. In turn, it is necessary to fill the state itself. budget, because too many hands of servants of the people go there, and this is the main reason for the increase in VAT / personal income tax.
    If it is simple: it is necessary to return to the economy what was stolen, at the expense of you and me, dear citizens.
    The states, of course, have contributed to this, but this is the same as taking 10 rubles from a bully, and this bully will take away from someone else, but already> 10 rubles.
    Those. - because of the States, our public servants lost money, but they returned it at our expense.
    Oh, there at the door of the FSB call me ... belay
  14. +13
    14 August 2018 13: 06
    In Yandex.News, I managed to read warnings that prices would rise for: airline tickets, fuel, meat products, housing and communal services. I don’t understand why these empty warnings ... It is obvious to anyone that with an increase in VAT, prices will rise by EVERYTHING. Why write for each item separately?
    I update my computer about once every 5 years. The update period is suitable. I always focus on fresh, but low cost assemblies. The so-called low-end market segment. Usually I fit in 15 thousand by sistemnik, but now estimating different options, it turns out about 45 thousand. I am in shock. How so?
    1. 0
      14 August 2018 13: 15
      I update my computer about once every 5 years. The update period is suitable. I always focus on fresh, but low cost assemblies. The so-called low-end market segment. Usually I fit in 15 thousand by sistemnik, but now estimating different options, it turns out about 45 thousand. I am in shock. How so?

      If you immediately collect the rules of the PC, then the update can be stretched.
      The last thing I changed was R9 270 on GTX-970.
      A percent, as was the FX-8320, remained. And it is still enough for two years. Prots in fact 2011 of the year (Vishera is still a small an Bulldozer).
      1. +4
        14 August 2018 13: 20
        Oh, and here I am, this year I coughed up, bought a 1080 ti video card, and this is as much as 70k rubles. But for the layout, the graphics are normal for me. I figured that if you collect the top configuration, then in 150 thousand it can get up.
    2. +6
      14 August 2018 14: 05
      Quote: forty-eighth
      Usually I fit in 15 thousand by sistemnik, but now estimating different options, it turns out about 45 thousand. I am in shock. How so?


      So, where were you the last years of 4? With a jump in the ruble, all the components soared in the price of aki Proton to the ISS. Well, thanks to the miners, for such prices on video cards.
  15. +2
    14 August 2018 13: 07
    So is it really possible for the government to “lie” about the fact that raising the VAT bar will not affect the price increase? ..
    What not to lie - if we eat successfully. Not the first time, and it works. The next increase in PV.
  16. +1
    14 August 2018 13: 34
    Well, duck is not a secret to anyone that balabol are sitting in the government ... If Vovka Putin is brazenly lying, what is there to be surprised?
  17. -18
    14 August 2018 13: 37
    Friendly whining just touches ... 2% tax is 200 P with 10 000!
    Three bottles of beer ... Of course, every penny that will be "taken away" is a pity. That beggars serve more. That is typical, without any benefit. wassat
    1. +18
      14 August 2018 14: 02
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Friendly whining just touches ... 2% tax is 200 P with 10 000!
      Three bottles of beer ... Of course, every penny that will be "taken away" is a pity. That beggars serve more. That is typical, without any benefit.

      Sorry, why should I just give someone 200 p. because of someone's incompetence and limpness of the president, who lacks the spirit to disperse all this impotent gadyushnik called KABMIN ??? Why do I have to pay for the more expensive gasoline, the reasons for which the price increase lies in the same incompetence of KABMINA? Just someone decided to collect taxes differently, and provoked a rise in prices. Has anyone answered for this? Not. Will answer? Also no. So why do I need all this?
    2. +11
      14 August 2018 14: 18
      Ahem, a bit wrong. 2% of bells and whistles for each participant in the production chain during production. On average, the final increase in value will be 8-14% percent. On import more.
    3. +1
      14 August 2018 15: 35
      you ask what those who work in high-tech industries with long technological chains think about this increase ...
      this measure is unlikely to help "create 25 million new high-tech jobs", no matter how existing ones "bent" ...
  18. +1
    14 August 2018 13: 45
    I remember how I stopped to buy some water to drink, and there my grandmother was selling seeds next to me. I asked why. After the announced amount, he asked what was so expensive? To which I heard the sacramental: "Do you know how the buck jumped now?"
    1. +1
      14 August 2018 15: 53
      tomket
      "I remember how I stopped to buy a drink of water, and there my grandmother was selling seeds next to me. I asked why. After the announced amount, I asked what was so expensive? To which I heard the sacramental:" Do you know how the buck jumped now? "

      That's right, but Zadornov told this bike a long time ago at his concerts. So do not forget to mention M. M. Zadornov, rest in peace to him ...
      1. 0
        14 August 2018 16: 20
        Quote: voffchik7691
        That's right, but Zadornov told this bike a long time ago at his concerts. So do not forget to mention M. M. Zadornov, rest in peace to him ...

        Grandmas just concerts Zadornov and watched))))
  19. +6
    14 August 2018 13: 55
    If anyone is to blame for the sharp deterioration in the standard of living of Russians, then this is Putin!
    When we voted for him, we hoped for a change in the entire rotten iPhone government.
    But in the end ....
    Thanks to Putin, the pro-Western pseudo-liberal iPhone scrambled into the prime minister’s chair and recruited the same bunch of capitalist ministers to join his team.
    These bastards began to dance to the tune of Christina from the IMF.
    The question arises - who serves this pack of laymen and thieves?
    And do we need such a government?
  20. +9
    14 August 2018 14: 19
    the most destructive property of taxes such as VAT is that all stages of production cooperation are taxed. This is a completely negative thing for the country's economy with a dubious effect for collecting the necessary amount.
  21. +3
    14 August 2018 15: 40
    After the start of the so-called duty-free war between the United States and China, the growth rate of industrial production in the PRC for the first time in several years was lower than the forecasts voiced by economists. The "shortage" is still relatively small - 6% of the previously projected 6,3%, and it seems that we would have their problems

    Yes yes - this year China has reduced VAT by 2% (to 15%)

    But Putin raises VAT to 20% - so who has the problem?

    For comparison, Kazakhstan has 12% VAT.
    Even working exclusively for export - our factories first pay VAT to the state, and the VAT refund for exported goods is expected for half a year, "crediting" the treasury at the expense of their already meager working capital.
    To compensate for the shortfalls, they will have to go into a non-working banking system and take out a loan at 16% per annum, while the European economy is credited at 3-4%, the Chinese economy at 6% per annum ...
    - Who else believes in fairy tales from the box, about the economic "miracle" in Russia?
    1. -4
      14 August 2018 15: 59
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      Even working exclusively for export - our factories first pay VAT to the state, and the VAT refund for exported goods is expected for half a year, "crediting" the treasury at the expense of their already meager working capital

      Ummm ... and they do not receive payment "including VAT" from the buyer, by any chance?

      If so, then all the subsequent horror that you set out - somehow, don’t you talk about anything?

      That is - the margin does not go anywhere, and even when the VAT is a thread, yes they will return ... a solid profit, no? wink
    2. +2
      14 August 2018 16: 24
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      - Who else believes in fairy tales from the box, about the economic "miracle" in Russia?

      I believe in "an economic miracle in Russia")))) You come to the gas station and every day new prices. Well, isn't it a miracle?))))) So you stand with your mouth open, you look at this marvelous, marvelous miracle))))
  22. -1
    14 August 2018 16: 04
    Quote: helmi8
    Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
    Long used to, it's like with gasoline, it always grows in price, despite the cost of a barrel

    Gasoline has risen in price due to more expensive transportation of gasoline due to higher prices for gasoline. recourse

    Can I print this phrase somewhere too laughing
  23. +3
    14 August 2018 16: 23
    WHO AGAINST de Gaulle (GDP) ...
    How many attempts on de Gaulle were there for his unpopular decisions ???
    What about Putin?
    I’m waiting for the guys from the FSB with a hot samovar and a complete absence of a safe with weapons and books of terrorist orientation - take all this with you.
  24. -2
    14 August 2018 17: 49
    Quote: Warlock_r
    Well, who would have thought! This has never happened, and here again.
    Did someone naively believe that raising VAT will not affect prices in any way?
    Did anyone naively believe that choosing something to change GDP?
    Where are you naive citizens?

    Grudinin won, neither the CEC correctly counted the votes. This group of gentlemen will not voluntarily give up power ... A dead end ... bully
    1. 0
      14 August 2018 18: 34
      Why say so, Grudinin won, cycled befouled. Make confusion or is it sarcasm
  25. -9
    14 August 2018 18: 09
    Though zaminusuyte to holes your devices. For the fact that I do not agree with many. I believe Putin. The only one you don’t touch on words. What is happening there, no one held a candle. And EP after all in the past. Only pensioners will vote and EP will live a little longer in the minority
    1. -1
      14 August 2018 18: 41
      Weak to answer for what is a minus? Because I have a different point of view? Is it also easier? I'm sure here and many are not because of the stars.
      1. -1
        14 August 2018 19: 45
        You put a minus - justify. Wimp
        1. 0
          15 August 2018 13: 19
          I put you a minus, because you do not react adequately to the situation. And your assessment of the current state is not entirely realistic and reasonable.
    2. 0
      15 August 2018 23: 41
      I didn’t give you a minus, but I stopped believing Putin when he submitted the candidacy of iPhone to the Duma, after signing the VAT law I’m just sure about the New Year’s gift for the people. Happy new years.
  26. +2
    14 August 2018 18: 14
    Yes, it is already necessary to drive this government with a rotten broom, pitchfork, axes and so on .... further it will only get worse
  27. +1
    14 August 2018 22: 02
    Raise it already for everything (one hell) raise it. Do not pull the cat for me.! So that I can understand the scale of the disaster, before the winter, and not in the midst of events. I do not like this thing.
  28. 0
    16 August 2018 05: 19
    I don’t understand, ordinary people are generally considered near-minded? It's just funny to read the news and watch TV. I’m just curious to live (survive) and see what happens next)))

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